I used poetry and reassociating images of trauma with non threatening sensations and nurturing images of childhood. Rhymes , music , dance , all forms of art. Because art also uses limbic system but also uses orbitofrontal cortex to sublimate those urges . Music or poetry can change your mood. I am a survivor of trauma , artist ( dancer , actor , published poet) and psychiatrist. Hence I found this useful. Both with clients and self.
Honestly i look at the comment section for these reasons. Its so helpful when people comment with their experience. I used to do this as a kid. Back then i used to used it try to bring meaning to big feelings i had. I stopped doing this and im sure it would be helpful now. Thank you!!
I am wondering if you can simplify what you meant with nurturing images of childhood. Or maybe an example of what you meant. I know its been two years.
I was invited to attend taekwondo classes by my friend who had no idea about my past and about my trauma, so he didn't know how much effort and courage it took. Still, I agreed and I think this was one of the best decisions I made in my life. At first, I thought I'd cry after every practice because it was really scary for me when I had to actually fight. But after all, I overcome my fear and felt much better and safer afterwards. So sorry I had to stop because of some health issues.
Isn't it ironic that the Army is mentioned as a place to experience capability and rewiring of the brain in training.. when it's also a place that later leaves a lot of people more traumatised..
Thanks so much for posting this. Gentle and increasing limbic activation does wonders - a nurturing and supportive martial arts experience would be wonderful for trauma. If discussion of trauma issues were a common part of the training of coaches and martial arts instructors (I shudder at how trauma-insensitive these instructors often are), we would probably see more healing from those experiences. This video presentation was very validating to me. I will often invite a client to gently activate the limbic system with imagery after doing some somatically oriented exercises to engage proprioceptive and kinesthetic feedback loops. After befriending the lizard brain, a good number of clients are able to successfully direct and hold their attention on ideas that evoke positive feelings. With the limbic system thus engaged, and the body resourced, they will often either spontaneously start processing negative feelings in a well-resourced body, while I help them slow the process and educate them further on why the foreign and difficult feelings can bring them to relief, watching their level of activation . . . or they'll just stay with the good feelings, so I engage them in a sort of visuo-kinesthetic process where they collaborate with the subcortical survival system by making a gentle invitations to the body, mindfully accepting whatever the response is. If they do not spontaneously start processing the difficult feelings, I will make sure the body is well resourced, and at that point, I may remind them of the issue they brought to the session, and as the negative feelings trickle or rush In, I have them interoceptively track and feel sensory aspects of what was evoked, intermittently inviting them to reactivate the resource state and shift attention between the two states (Peter Levine's pendulation method). I found that Peter Levine's method, insofar as I understand it, is a great way to couch limbic activation in an increasingly resilient cradle constructed from partnering strands of sensory/subcortical and neocortical awareness, so the net result is a person who is ready to experience a gentle and titrated discharge as the limbic system is activated, and feelings come through - gently with mild and happy feelings as the energy is reclaimed, or through a heavier discharge involving a bit of shivering, jolting, heat, surges of lacrymal release or emotions, or in some cases, incipient bodily movements waiting for completion. now that I know how to watch for those things, therapy has become much more effective. plus it has become much more apparent to me that if a person were to be in a nurturing, supportive, and Trauma sensitive martial arts class, perhaps one led by a sense a Who has overcome his or her own trauma, there is an intense likelihood that that Sensei would be able to gently guide and support the Survivor through the intensity of emotion that comes with his or her limbic activation. Laughter being disabused of the notion that cognitive therapies for insight oriented Therapies with a focus on declarative memory helped people heal from trauma with any regularity, I used to think cathartic or abreactive methods were necessary, and was often baffled and how often people simply had these experiences without being healed and often coming worse, and even more baffled that sometimes the most painless looking techniques such a certain ones often promoted by the creators of NLP, would lead to better and more lasting results. Van Der Kolk, Levine, Ogden, Heller, and others who've understood the neuroscience has made a huge difference for me in figuring out why therapy often fails, why certain things work, and how to make them more effective, so they lead to both results the client can feel in session, and resilience they can take home with them as they practice a process they never learned in grade school, never learned from their parents, never learn from their grandparents, and which are the most naturalistic way to help them feel the actual goodness of the good things they have in their lives - if they're into that sort of thing. Most clients don't consciously want to suffer, but for some of them, the hope is pretty well shut out, and anything other than traditional talk therapy would violate their expectations, so starting slowly with what looks more like standard talk therapy and MI without doing a lot of interoceptive work is warranted up front. For such clients, they often get interested when seeing these body oriented methods and living system oriented methods applied in a reasonably cohesive and nurturing group setting. I had a supervisor who once compared that to having a five-star Yelp review en vivo. Having a martial arts instructor or PE coach trained in a touch of applied neuroscience for limbic activation and attunement processes would likely realize the full benefits discussed in this presentation with regularity, and goodness, if basic training instructors understood how these processes worked, I can only imagine the widespread benefit - there would be nothing soft about the program, it would be both tough and humanizing in the most effective ways.
Did martial arts after me and my friends got attacked one evening. Too bad I stopped because I went abroad with work. Maybe I'll continue one day. 😌🙌🏻👍🏻☀️ Thanks for reminding me.
Wow... Ok. The example the doctor gave spoke specifically to ME! I have found that martial arts and combat sports have given me newfound confidence and they alleviate most of the PTSD symptoms I have from past trauma. However, personally, these effects only last 3-4 days. I then start to become nervous, agitated, jumpy, and confidence spirals downward. Until... I take another class and shout, beat and kick my way through it. I do need to find a more permanent solution as I've been doing combat sports for 9 years, and as I'm getting older (50 years old, soon) the injuries are starting to build up and it's taking me longer to recover. Thanks you for sharing this valuable information! Ciao from Italy, L
Thanks so much for the beautiful explanation. I am a Process Counsellor. I walk with the client throught the strong emotion ( awareness) then use art, movement and pressure points for releasing the residues in the body. Then bring to mind the positive emotions and their capacity for handling the emotion. This can be a very powerful experience.
YES! I do these things and that's rather what keeps me going despite the unending AS afflictions, at least the pain and immobility has ended and currently, I have no more skin eruptions. UP lifting the mind is a great thing as is inner peace.
Physical movement is wonderful, and very helpful, but some people entering a fight in martial arts training may have a collapse response and not be able to confront their opponent. I do not observe this as helpful; it can be shattering. Some Masters will allow students to be exempt from sparing but I expect non contact forms such as yoga or tai chi, or just doing forms might be better for people who have experienced physical abuse. Additionally, a paradoxical violent outburst may follow after a collapse response. This happens away from helpers who could temper the flooding of anger and adrenaline. I am not a therapist, I am a former coach of ADHD adults and children. Martial arts are excellent for raising fitness, self discipline, brain chemicals associated with exercise and shared community. Thank you!
You sound like an amazing therapist.....I have no clue why my Anxiety has resurfaced after years ( maybe COVID???) or “ restriction/ rules??) but dr in my area just prescribe a pill..... SMH....... I research as best I can for my self....
Thank you for this very helpful and informative video though I will have to disagree with Dr Bessel regarding martial arts as I know a victim of trauma who is a black belt suffers from a lot of anxiety, negativity and extreme fear. Having achieved black belt in martial arts did not make him confident nor take away his fear factor. The only ppl he can physically take his anger out at is his child unfortunately
Robyn I know what your suffering with as I am not unlike you. Bessel is a child of trauma too so he self funds and self researches how child abuse harms the mind-body and provide ways he's found helped him and those he helps. Same thing with Dr Gabor Matte and Peter Levine, Dr. Aimie Apiagan. They give me understanding, assurances I am not alone, and they give tips and tools for helping us grow well in spirit if not physical wellness. The thing is you can't allow those old memories to dominate, they need replacing with your truths your claimed knowledge and your spirits intentions. I've sought out some excellent free counselling at non-profits and paid to get connection and lately, an expressive arts therapist. I love it and feel so empowered after a session. I need to feel a workout space is safe, so no martial arts for me until such is revealed to me; as well I am not strong enough nor my energy system resilient enough to manage such extreme physical exertion. Have another Hug Robin and KNOW that you are not alone. YOU NEVER Ever Deserved any of the abuse you suffered!
Yes, but we can help our plastic brain to grow the hippocampus larger I believe. I know from eating a carnivore diet for 5 yrs now that that caused my short term memory to return after decades of no memory, my AS arthritis symptoms (nervous system) are gone and my formerly fusing 2nd stage spine, thanks to corrective chiropractors is fully flexible, I know longer suffer any pain of limits in movements of all my limbs. My gut is becoming healed though that is the toughest organ to heal when we have AS. My ND helps with all the skin inflammations and eruptions, so I've no longer getting one after another; part of it is calming the Para-sympathetic nervous system so it starts braking, instead of ramping up into FFFF. Currently, St. Johns Wort and Elderberry tincture are helping me sleep deeply, waken with a calm barely audible breath and feel way more rested in the morning. Feed your body the Homo Sapien diet and you'll find everything worlds well and no illnesses ever arise. Wonder why these ancient ancestors had perfect teeth, proper jaw functions, structures with no dental overlaps, protrusions of cavities? But eat meats and animal fats ONLY, as the rest is THE key problem creating hell within. Sugars, carbs turn to sugars and you also can have high risk of diabetes but the doctor won't tell you till your into it. I had high blood sugar and the symptoms so I doubled down into disciplining self away from the addictive never foods and into the much enjoyed, simple steak and Burgers meals. So simple, less costs and no reactions afterwards. Dr Aimie Apigain teaches about the link between CPTS Response and autoimmunity; there's a direct correlation which needs our understanding to help stop the cycling. She's really helped me understand this bizarre thing and how to decrease it's seemingly out of control responses. It begins with me- Tai chi, qi-gong, yoga and meditations are all great help, as is walking with mindful breathing, both arms swinging and notice the skies, the clouds, trees, nature's birdsong... calming the trauma-somatic reactivity with present moment awareness and LOVE for life and our gifts need to underline it all. It's work to keep the Lizard brain sleeping, and raise up Self to the enlightened being we have deep within us if we open to allow it to breathe and move throughout our self.I'm telling and reminniding myself of this cause discipline and routines have rarely stuck as I veer away...
@@ledacedar6253 I am familiar with what you've said. I have a functional MD who had my organic acids and hormones tested (DUTCH) I am on a hi fat diet and eat no junk..and spend a small fortune on nutraceuticals. Unfortunately I'm in my 70s, and my HPA axis is not likely to regulate itself at this age. I probably also have Mito dysregulation and short telomeres. It is hard to be unstressed with all this going on. Add to that the misery of not being able to eat what I want. I feel sorry for myself..and that's how it is 😢
Hi Robin. I am 71 so we aren't too much older than each other. I had to look up your medical terminology as it's been a while since trying t comprehend the problems to make a difference. Sadly there is nothing known about the direct cause and direct treatments, foods or energy treatments that help. Now I'm leaning towards Donna Eden's energy healing techniques as she elminiated her MS using her intuited psyche. I hear you with all my heart, Robyn. Being unstressed about the plethora of issues is difficult, especially with my mind that prefers to not meditate and use only my head to live through. I am trying to change to be more in my feelings and enjoying the inner peace of my sensory system in this state. I completely agree, it really really sucks to not be able to eat and drink what I want. Sometimes I rebel and drink my bulletproof coffee with stevia, then seeing the scalloped edges of my tongue I try to go back to enjoying a safe herbal tea. But that doesn't please me as much. Yes, I feel totally ripped off and powerless, often wonder of the emotional connections and research frequently and I refuse to give up. I'm kind of like the old punching dolls we could wack and they'd stand up again. When I notice my negative mind ranting I try to interrupt it and replace the thoughts I want to think and feel about. Walking in nature is always great for me as I relate to mother nature more than my mother. Thank god I had a caring Gramma as a kid to escape to a quiet home on weekends. That seems to be my life. I do I feel sorry for myself yet, I refuse to dwell there or soak in that as it only make me feel more powerless, more angry and then I blow my fury at the medical doctors. When the global health terrorists began spreading their their Plandemic/Bio-psycho-socio-envior wars I blew a gasket at that lot of anal retentive, never healing agents for the pharmaceutical Mafia. They tried to control me by requiring me to sign a contract to obtain services. I certainly don't need their policing, coercion or oppression, so yup I yelled at them to FO! That felt good and I know I never will need their never-healing chemical cocktails for slow death. After years of agonizing hell, and not one of them caring to provide even listening support then I don't need or want them near me. Paid too much and suffered too much to ever comply with these agents of slow death or, as I'm in Canada ask for Tru-DOPE's free MAID. I'm going to give 'em hell whenever I can as, it's my opinion that they totally deserve the lashing of their lives from everyone of us humans with minds, hearts & spirits connected. Gratitude and what's good about today, about being alive becomes my focus: I can move without any pains or immobility. My mind works well again where I was so confused and with no short term memory for decades. I've succeeded in bringing my children closer (though not close as I'd like), have two grand-kids and you know, God gives us Blue skies, gorgeous puffy clouds, beautiful lakes and streams, forests and winged creatures. That's beauty and awe creating within when meditated on. This Robyn is the stuff that keeps me going even though it's a bare thread. I think my early rebelliousness helps. Very early in life I had to depend on myself with neglect and abuse common, so as alone I am I highly value my independence of body and mind. I hope you do too. Hope and optimism is what keeps me going and knowing I am not alone with AS. I hope you can relate and enjoyed my sharing; and that it's not too lengthy for you. I really appreciate your sharing your situation with me as I need more people like me who won't give up, still suffer yet still look up towards the sky, hills, tops of trees and leet the mind fly back to wonderful, memories and great times with others. Gosh I feel I could chat with you for hours on the phone, to just connect with another brave sufferer, one whose lost so much of life's joys too and daily faces the deprivation of foods, drinks and activities our young hearts remember. Hugs, Leda 🥰🙂🐎🐈🐞💐🎄🎉🎑
I used poetry and reassociating images of trauma with non threatening sensations and nurturing images of childhood. Rhymes , music , dance , all forms of art. Because art also uses limbic system but also uses orbitofrontal cortex to sublimate those urges . Music or poetry can change your mood. I am a survivor of trauma , artist ( dancer , actor , published poet) and psychiatrist. Hence I found this useful. Both with clients and self.
That's amazing. Well done. 😌🙌🏻👍🏻☀️
Thank you 😊
Awesome and beautiful. God bless
Honestly i look at the comment section for these reasons. Its so helpful when people comment with their experience. I used to do this as a kid. Back then i used to used it try to bring meaning to big feelings i had. I stopped doing this and im sure it would be helpful now. Thank you!!
I am wondering if you can simplify what you meant with nurturing images of childhood. Or maybe an example of what you meant. I know its been two years.
I was invited to attend taekwondo classes by my friend who had no idea about my past and about my trauma, so he didn't know how much effort and courage it took. Still, I agreed and I think this was one of the best decisions I made in my life. At first, I thought I'd cry after every practice because it was really scary for me when I had to actually fight. But after all, I overcome my fear and felt much better and safer afterwards. So sorry I had to stop because of some health issues.
Isn't it ironic that the Army is mentioned as a place to experience capability and rewiring of the brain in training.. when it's also a place that later leaves a lot of people more traumatised..
Thanks so much for posting this. Gentle and increasing limbic activation does wonders - a nurturing and supportive martial arts experience would be wonderful for trauma. If discussion of trauma issues were a common part of the training of coaches and martial arts instructors (I shudder at how trauma-insensitive these instructors often are), we would probably see more healing from those experiences. This video presentation was very validating to me. I will often invite a client to gently activate the limbic system with imagery after doing some somatically oriented exercises to engage proprioceptive and kinesthetic feedback loops. After befriending the lizard brain, a good number of clients are able to successfully direct and hold their attention on ideas that evoke positive feelings. With the limbic system thus engaged, and the body resourced, they will often either spontaneously start processing negative feelings in a well-resourced body, while I help them slow the process and educate them further on why the foreign and difficult feelings can bring them to relief, watching their level of activation . . . or they'll just stay with the good feelings, so I engage them in a sort of visuo-kinesthetic process where they collaborate with the subcortical survival system by making a gentle invitations to the body, mindfully accepting whatever the response is. If they do not spontaneously start processing the difficult feelings, I will make sure the body is well resourced, and at that point, I may remind them of the issue they brought to the session, and as the negative feelings trickle or rush In, I have them interoceptively track and feel sensory aspects of what was evoked, intermittently inviting them to reactivate the resource state and shift attention between the two states (Peter Levine's pendulation method). I found that Peter Levine's method, insofar as I understand it, is a great way to couch limbic activation in an increasingly resilient cradle constructed from partnering strands of sensory/subcortical and neocortical awareness, so the net result is a person who is ready to experience a gentle and titrated discharge as the limbic system is activated, and feelings come through - gently with mild and happy feelings as the energy is reclaimed, or through a heavier discharge involving a bit of shivering, jolting, heat, surges of lacrymal release or emotions, or in some cases, incipient bodily movements waiting for completion. now that I know how to watch for those things, therapy has become much more effective. plus it has become much more apparent to me that if a person were to be in a nurturing, supportive, and Trauma sensitive martial arts class, perhaps one led by a sense a Who has overcome his or her own trauma, there is an intense likelihood that that Sensei would be able to gently guide and support the Survivor through the intensity of emotion that comes with his or her limbic activation. Laughter being disabused of the notion that cognitive therapies for insight oriented Therapies with a focus on declarative memory helped people heal from trauma with any regularity, I used to think cathartic or abreactive methods were necessary, and was often baffled and how often people simply had these experiences without being healed and often coming worse, and even more baffled that sometimes the most painless looking techniques such a certain ones often promoted by the creators of NLP, would lead to better and more lasting results. Van Der Kolk, Levine, Ogden, Heller, and others who've understood the neuroscience has made a huge difference for me in figuring out why therapy often fails, why certain things work, and how to make them more effective, so they lead to both results the client can feel in session, and resilience they can take home with them as they practice a process they never learned in grade school, never learned from their parents, never learn from their grandparents, and which are the most naturalistic way to help them feel the actual goodness of the good things they have in their lives - if they're into that sort of thing. Most clients don't consciously want to suffer, but for some of them, the hope is pretty well shut out, and anything other than traditional talk therapy would violate their expectations, so starting slowly with what looks more like standard talk therapy and MI without doing a lot of interoceptive work is warranted up front. For such clients, they often get interested when seeing these body oriented methods and living system oriented methods applied in a reasonably cohesive and nurturing group setting. I had a supervisor who once compared that to having a five-star Yelp review en vivo. Having a martial arts instructor or PE coach trained in a touch of applied neuroscience for limbic activation and attunement processes would likely realize the full benefits discussed in this presentation with regularity, and goodness, if basic training instructors understood how these processes worked, I can only imagine the widespread benefit - there would be nothing soft about the program, it would be both tough and humanizing in the most effective ways.
Thanks for amaizing explanation.
Did martial arts after me and my friends got attacked one evening. Too bad I stopped because I went abroad with work. Maybe I'll continue one day. 😌🙌🏻👍🏻☀️ Thanks for reminding me.
Wow... Ok. The example the doctor gave spoke specifically to ME! I have found that martial arts and combat sports have given me newfound confidence and they alleviate most of the PTSD symptoms I have from past trauma. However, personally, these effects only last 3-4 days. I then start to become nervous, agitated, jumpy, and confidence spirals downward. Until... I take another class and shout, beat and kick my way through it. I do need to find a more permanent solution as I've been doing combat sports for 9 years, and as I'm getting older (50 years old, soon) the injuries are starting to build up and it's taking me longer to recover. Thanks you for sharing this valuable information! Ciao from Italy, L
Thanks so much for the beautiful explanation.
I am a Process Counsellor.
I walk with the client throught the strong emotion ( awareness) then use art, movement and pressure points for releasing the residues in the body. Then bring to mind the positive emotions and their capacity for handling the emotion.
This can be a very powerful experience.
YES! I do these things and that's rather what keeps me going despite the unending AS afflictions, at least the pain and immobility has ended and currently, I have no more skin eruptions. UP lifting the mind is a great thing as is inner peace.
I rehab misunderstood dogs with ruff pasts using limbic system therapy
Great use of your time & energy! On behalf of humans & misunderstood doggos, thanks for doing this valuable work :)
Physical movement is wonderful, and very helpful, but some people entering a fight in martial arts training may have a collapse response and not be able to confront their opponent. I do not observe this as helpful; it can be shattering. Some Masters will allow students to be exempt from sparing but I expect non contact forms such as yoga or tai chi, or just doing forms might be better for people who have experienced physical abuse. Additionally, a paradoxical violent outburst may follow after a collapse response. This happens away from helpers who could temper the flooding of anger and adrenaline. I am not a therapist, I am a former coach of ADHD adults and children. Martial arts are excellent for raising fitness, self discipline, brain chemicals associated with exercise and shared community. Thank you!
k8eekatt it was an example; not literal
Brilliant. I cannot wait to read this book!
I love it!!! 🥰
Amazing video
You sound like an amazing therapist.....I have no clue why my Anxiety has resurfaced after years ( maybe COVID???) or “ restriction/ rules??) but dr in my area just prescribe a pill..... SMH....... I research as best I can for my self....
Thank you for this very helpful and informative video though I will have to disagree with Dr Bessel regarding martial arts as I know a victim of trauma who is a black belt suffers from a lot of anxiety, negativity and extreme fear. Having achieved black belt in martial arts did not make him confident nor take away his fear factor. The only ppl he can physically take his anger out at is his child unfortunately
is somatic experiencing considered limbic system therapy?
YES.
Can someone tell me what kind of therapy is appropriate for an elder who experienced 16 yrs of child abuse and neglect? What would Bessel do for me?
Follow and listen deeply to all of Bessel's works and helpful teachings to realize he's a gift to us childhood sufferers
@@ledacedar6253 yes, ik..but he never talks about seniors..he's one himself.
Robyn I know what your suffering with as I am not unlike you. Bessel is a child of trauma too so he self funds and self researches how child abuse harms the mind-body and provide ways he's found helped him and those he helps. Same thing with Dr Gabor Matte and Peter Levine, Dr. Aimie Apiagan. They give me understanding, assurances I am not alone, and they give tips and tools for helping us grow well in spirit if not physical wellness. The thing is you can't allow those old memories to dominate, they need replacing with your truths your claimed knowledge and your spirits intentions. I've sought out some excellent free counselling at non-profits and paid to get connection and lately, an expressive arts therapist. I love it and feel so empowered after a session. I need to feel a workout space is safe, so no martial arts for me until such is revealed to me; as well I am not strong enough nor my energy system resilient enough to manage such extreme physical exertion.
Have another Hug Robin and KNOW that you are not alone. YOU NEVER Ever Deserved any of the abuse you suffered!
I bet if I had an fMRI, it would show a small hippocampus 😥
Yes, but we can help our plastic brain to grow the hippocampus larger I believe.
I know from eating a carnivore diet for 5 yrs now that that caused my short term memory to return after decades of no memory, my AS arthritis symptoms (nervous system) are gone and my formerly fusing 2nd stage spine, thanks to corrective chiropractors is fully flexible, I know longer suffer any pain of limits in movements of all my limbs.
My gut is becoming healed though that is the toughest organ to heal when we have AS. My ND helps with all the skin inflammations and eruptions, so I've no longer getting one after another; part of it is calming the Para-sympathetic nervous system so it starts braking, instead of ramping up into FFFF. Currently, St. Johns Wort and Elderberry tincture are helping me sleep deeply, waken with a calm barely audible breath and feel way more rested in the morning.
Feed your body the Homo Sapien diet and you'll find everything worlds well and no illnesses ever arise. Wonder why these ancient ancestors had perfect teeth, proper jaw functions, structures with no dental overlaps, protrusions of cavities?
But eat meats and animal fats ONLY, as the rest is THE key problem creating hell within. Sugars, carbs turn to sugars and you also can have high risk of diabetes but the doctor won't tell you till your into it. I had high blood sugar and the symptoms so I doubled down into disciplining self away from the addictive never foods and into the much enjoyed, simple steak and Burgers meals. So simple, less costs and no reactions afterwards.
Dr Aimie Apigain teaches about the link between CPTS Response and autoimmunity; there's a direct correlation which needs our understanding to help stop the cycling. She's really helped me understand this bizarre thing and how to decrease it's seemingly out of control responses. It begins with me- Tai chi, qi-gong, yoga and meditations are all great help, as is walking with mindful breathing, both arms swinging and notice the skies, the clouds, trees, nature's birdsong... calming the trauma-somatic reactivity with present moment awareness and LOVE for life and our gifts need to underline it all. It's work to keep the Lizard brain sleeping, and raise up Self to the enlightened being we have deep within us if we open to allow it to breathe and move throughout our self.I'm telling and reminniding myself of this cause discipline and routines have rarely stuck as I veer away...
@@ledacedar6253 I am familiar with what you've said. I have a functional MD who had my organic acids and hormones tested (DUTCH) I am on a hi fat diet and eat no junk..and spend a small fortune on nutraceuticals. Unfortunately I'm in my 70s, and my HPA axis is not likely to regulate itself at this age. I probably also have Mito dysregulation and short telomeres. It is hard to be unstressed with all this going on. Add to that the misery of not being able to eat what I want. I feel sorry for myself..and that's how it is 😢
Hi Robin. I am 71 so we aren't too much older than each other. I had to look up your medical terminology as it's been a while since trying t comprehend the problems to make a difference. Sadly there is nothing known about the direct cause and direct treatments, foods or energy treatments that help. Now I'm leaning towards Donna Eden's energy healing techniques as she elminiated her MS using her intuited psyche. I hear you with all my heart, Robyn.
Being unstressed about the plethora of issues is difficult, especially with my mind that prefers to not meditate and use only my head to live through. I am trying to change to be more in my feelings and enjoying the inner peace of my sensory system in this state.
I completely agree, it really really sucks to not be able to eat and drink what I want. Sometimes I rebel and drink my bulletproof coffee with stevia, then seeing the scalloped edges of my tongue I try to go back to enjoying a safe herbal tea. But that doesn't please me as much.
Yes, I feel totally ripped off and powerless, often wonder of the emotional connections and research frequently and I refuse to give up. I'm kind of like the old punching dolls we could wack and they'd stand up again. When I notice my negative mind ranting I try to interrupt it and replace the thoughts I want to think and feel about. Walking in nature is always great for me as I relate to mother nature more than my mother. Thank god I had a caring Gramma as a kid to escape to a quiet home on weekends. That seems to be my life.
I do I feel sorry for myself yet, I refuse to dwell there or soak in that as it only make me feel more powerless, more angry and then I blow my fury at the medical doctors. When the global health terrorists began spreading their their Plandemic/Bio-psycho-socio-envior wars I blew a gasket at that lot of anal retentive, never healing agents for the pharmaceutical Mafia.
They tried to control me by requiring me to sign a contract to obtain services. I certainly don't need their policing, coercion or oppression, so yup I yelled at them to FO! That felt good and I know I never will need their never-healing chemical cocktails for slow death.
After years of agonizing hell, and not one of them caring to provide even listening support then I don't need or want them near me. Paid too much and suffered too much to ever comply with these agents of slow death or, as I'm in Canada ask for Tru-DOPE's free MAID. I'm going to give 'em hell whenever I can as, it's my opinion that they totally deserve the lashing of their lives from everyone of us humans with minds, hearts & spirits connected.
Gratitude and what's good about today, about being alive becomes my focus: I can move without any pains or immobility. My mind works well again where I was so confused and with no short term memory for decades.
I've succeeded in bringing my children closer (though not close as I'd like), have two grand-kids and you know, God gives us Blue skies, gorgeous puffy clouds, beautiful lakes and streams, forests and winged creatures. That's beauty and awe creating within when meditated on. This Robyn is the stuff that keeps me going even though it's a bare thread. I think my early rebelliousness helps. Very early in life I had to depend on myself with neglect and abuse common, so as alone I am I highly value my independence of body and mind. I hope you do too.
Hope and optimism is what keeps me going and knowing I am not alone with AS. I hope you can relate and enjoyed my sharing; and that it's not too lengthy for you. I really appreciate your sharing your situation with me as I need more people like me who won't give up, still suffer yet still look up towards the sky, hills, tops of trees and leet the mind fly back to wonderful, memories and great times with others.
Gosh I feel I could chat with you for hours on the phone, to just connect with another brave sufferer, one whose lost so much of life's joys too and daily faces the deprivation of foods, drinks and activities our young hearts remember. Hugs, Leda
🥰🙂🐎🐈🐞💐🎄🎉🎑
@@ledacedar6253 Thanks a lot, Leda, for your thoughtful response...much appreciated.🌻
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