How to setup and use the QRM Eliminator! Noise Interference Gone!

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  • @cesarea4is60
    @cesarea4is60 Рік тому +7

    Hello Darren. I think you don't understand fine the method for use it. The two antennas needed the same gain at time and after modify the phase. For this, decrease the gain of main antenna (usually have more gain than rx antennas used) and decrease a bit the rx antenna. You first need to find the point where all the noises (or the better s/n ratio) you have. At this point, the two antennas have the same gain. Then you can move the phase
    Potenciometer to kill the noise. You can see it in a video of my channel.

    • @socallars3748
      @socallars3748 5 місяців тому +2

      You mean we're not meant to just randomly turn the knobs every which way and claim success? 😁

  • @jojojeep1
    @jojojeep1 Рік тому +2

    Friend, what do you do if you don’t have a push to talk or a PTT on the back of your radio, I have a Quad five any tone it doesn’t have a PT T Jack

  • @George_S.G
    @George_S.G 6 днів тому

    Great video and very well explain , i have the Ftdx-10 but i don't know where to connect the rca plug coming from the qrm eliminator to the back of my radio , if you have the time can you let me know where, thank you.

  • @geekverve
    @geekverve 3 роки тому +4

    Impressive, but maybe you can explain something for me. The QRM was bad, but the QSO signal was still stronger, pusing the S-meter to 9. When you turned on the QRM Eliminator, the QRM went away, but the S-meter dropped to about S-2 on that strong signal. What caused the dramatic drop on the S-meter without any audible loss in signal strength?

  • @mcsdrd8
    @mcsdrd8 Рік тому +1

    I agree that a shorter sense antenna would be desirable so it only picks up the local noise and use vertical polarization on the sense antenna.

  • @froilanleoncio1507
    @froilanleoncio1507 3 місяці тому

    Good evening from the Philippines, just wanna ask what kind of wire and size you used to connect to the PL259 connector and then you hanged it around the house?

  • @ComandoRebelles
    @ComandoRebelles 23 дні тому

    Hi. Can I use the PTT EXIT behind the rádio? I have ft1000mp

  • @rogershults5607
    @rogershults5607 2 роки тому +1

    Hello Darren N4VFR
    I hope you are feeling good
    I have a lot of line noise here lately
    yesterday it was 20 over 9 on HF
    what is weird it comes and goes if it's raining no noise
    the noise blinker is useless on this radio Yaesu FTDX101 MP
    the Icom IC 7610 Scott a lot better noise blinker ON it it will take out over 80% of the noise
    my icom ic 9700 it is got the best noise blinker on any radio I've ever owned
    on 2 meter SSB it will get rid of static crashes
    I was wanting to ask you about The QRM Eliminator
    I believe it will only handle 100 Watts
    I'm not for sure but you turned the The qrm Eliminator off can you run 200 Watts
    thank you Darren N4VFR
    73

  • @Sophia-hs3rz
    @Sophia-hs3rz 3 роки тому +4

    8:00-9:00 mins, your received signal was reduced with the ambient level, signal%noise was unaffected, it's just an attenuator 💃🏼

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, the signal is attenuated and his audio still was intelligible without much of the hash noise. Just like adjusting the RF gain.

  • @kc8ntvles956
    @kc8ntvles956 3 роки тому +1

    Cool...Have power line everwe're around my house...👍like it...Thanks

  • @M0JHN
    @M0JHN 3 роки тому +1

    Diversity tuning is brilliant, benefits of a dual VFO transceiver to do this in the radio itself. Tried this on the SDRplay Duo.

    • @MegaCadr
      @MegaCadr 3 роки тому +1

      Do you have any references I could look at to learn about doing that? Thanks!

    • @M0JHN
      @M0JHN 3 роки тому

      @@MegaCadr Sure, have a look at this link on UA-cam ua-cam.com/video/x1DRgprcC6g/v-deo.html

    • @M0JHN
      @M0JHN 3 роки тому

      Also makes for a great panadapter to see local frequencies around you.

    • @MegaCadr
      @MegaCadr 3 роки тому

      @@M0JHN Awesome! Thank you!

  • @royfowler5637
    @royfowler5637 2 роки тому +1

    Is the transmit power that handles 100 W continuous or 100 wpep??

  • @JamesOrcutt
    @JamesOrcutt Рік тому

    Turning the IPO amp1 off help also? Thanks for the video I have the FTDx10 but considering the 101mp great Rig thanks

  • @basilbrush4518
    @basilbrush4518 Рік тому

    were on the FTDX10 would you connect the PTT connector?

  • @patrickgrahn2238
    @patrickgrahn2238 Рік тому

    I have a radio without ptt connection . Can i use this device not connecting the ptt-cable?

  • @rockybicc1323
    @rockybicc1323 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks Capt

  • @jundyrb
    @jundyrb Рік тому

    How does it compare with the qrm eliminator by us4lg igor?

  • @noelbulls8628
    @noelbulls8628 8 місяців тому

    Why didn’t you get the one from MFJ?

  • @bangkithutajulu8851
    @bangkithutajulu8851 2 роки тому +1

    nice, awesome

  • @Homer19521
    @Homer19521 2 роки тому +1

    Where did you buy yours? I have a MFJ1026 that works well but want to try this unit. Thanx for the vid.

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  2 роки тому

      I bought from ebay and shipped from China. I have two and if interested can sell to you.

  • @mihainicolae764
    @mihainicolae764 11 місяців тому

    hi darren
    how long is your aux ?
    thank you

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  11 місяців тому

      I just used a random length wire. You're probably best to use a HF vertical to receive more RFI signals .

  • @Atomshamradio
    @Atomshamradio 3 роки тому +2

    I was thinking about getting one👍

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  3 роки тому +1

      I bought 2 and one of them came with a missing knob. I offered to agree with a $5.00 refund. It would cost a whole lot more to ship a single knob or returning the product to China.

  • @AndrewSparkfish
    @AndrewSparkfish Рік тому +1

    Must the PTT be connected, as my radio doesn't have a TX ground?

    • @pjo1964
      @pjo1964 6 місяців тому

      Foot switch?

    • @AndrewSparkfish
      @AndrewSparkfish 6 місяців тому

      @@pjo1964 ...have since worked another plan

  • @alardon1126
    @alardon1126 3 роки тому

    I have a different problem, I have a noise floor of s3-4 normally, but I get a broadband burst every 15 seconds with a 12-13 second duration. Totally overwhelms the receiver. I don't think that it can be phased out. Still, for ambient noise with a consistent noise level, it seems to be the ticket. Thanks for the video. 73, Al

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  3 роки тому

      Al, It will be hard to tune out the broadband burst. You might see if you can find the source of interference. At least check if you can find out if it's originating from your house.

  • @FuZhixiang
    @FuZhixiang 3 роки тому

    I just bought it last week and still trying figuring out its pattern. Now my auxiliary antenna has some distance to my main antenna, cancelling the noise is a little tricky; I need to cancel out different noises for different phases. Sometimes when two noises came in with different phases, there is a trade off. I've discovered that putting Gain 2 at level 5 (middle), it can do the job most of the time by only adjusting phase knob. However, when auxiliary antenna cannot reap enough noise, Gain 2 need to be at level 10 (highest) while Gain 1 should reduced to some extent. All in all, when spare time comes, I'll try for put both of the antennas close to see the result. Literally, I guess using beam antenna as the main should benefit a lot from this toy.

  • @24nov67
    @24nov67 3 роки тому +1

    whereabouts would i attach the ptt connection on the yaesu FTDX10?

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  3 роки тому +2

      Take a look at the FTDX10 Manual page 13. Under the Tuner Port, you may need to connect the GND to the outside shield of the RCA plug and the TX GND to the center conductor of the RCA plug. Take a look at this: forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/connecting-a-qrm-eliminator-to-a-yaesu-817.551786/

  • @radioman6489
    @radioman6489 2 роки тому

    How can I use this using a pw1 amplifier I've got four antennas completely filled on the back of the pw1 how would I rig this up to work with the pw1 and the Icom 7700? Thanks Mark

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  2 роки тому

      You would need to connect the QRM Eliminator between the PW1 and you Radio. As far as connections behind the QRM Eliminator, Aux Antenna is connect to the sensing antenna. The TRX goes to your HF Radio, and the Main Ant is connected to your PW1 Amplifier.

  • @Ei2iP
    @Ei2iP 2 роки тому +1

    Ok the reason this is not working is because your rx antenna needs to receive the noise the same or louder than your HF antenna. If not, your rx antenna is not good enough.
    If you rx antenna can't get the qrn louder the your HF antenna, how do you expect to cancel the qrn.
    All you are doing is reducing the gain of the antennas, plus you can't test it while listening to a station!
    I have the mfj1026 and my rx antenna picks up everything.

  • @daveduffy2292
    @daveduffy2292 4 місяці тому

    Good video thanks

  • @smithderf
    @smithderf 2 роки тому +1

    This is only effective if there is truly a local noise. Local noise as in a property noise that can be locally targeted with the position of the aux antenna.

  • @raysult
    @raysult 2 роки тому +8

    You should be using a MUCH shorter aux antenna. You will not get the full effect of that device when the auxiliary antenna is also receiving The wanted signal. The antenna should be a 3 ft piece of wire or shorter so that it only picks up The unwanted local noise and not the signal of the other transmissions you want to hear

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  2 роки тому +3

      Thank you. Gonna have to try a shorter antenna.

    • @cesarea4is60
      @cesarea4is60 Рік тому

      @raysult This is only true when the noise its near to your station. The better option it's the same gain for the two antennas in general. If the noise its far from you, it's better a gain antenna in the exterior.

  • @CHRISVDH
    @CHRISVDH Рік тому

    Thank you for the interesting video . I bought one yesterday. I use a yaesu ftdx 3000 . And also a acom 1010 amp . But the acom use also the tx ground connector. Do you have any idea that i could connect the xphase to a other connector in the yaesu ? Or using a rca splitter on the tx ground ? No idea of this could do any harm ? I dont want to destroy the apm 🙂 .... And the xphase dont work if you not connect the ptt ?

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  Рік тому +1

      Use a RCA Y-adapter. I connect my TX Send from from my Icom IC7610. One end of the Y connection goes to the Amplifier and the other to my QRM eliminator.

    • @CHRISVDH
      @CHRISVDH Рік тому

      Dear thanks.
      I appreciate your help .
      Is a standard RCA cable good?
      Like a yellow ( Video ? )
      I don't understand much about these cables.
      Kind Regards on7cdh

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  Рік тому +1

      @@CHRISVDH Yes, but it has to be long enough to reach your amplifier as well as your QRM eliminator.

    • @CHRISVDH
      @CHRISVDH Рік тому

      Last question can i also use one splitter connector on the yaesu and two different cables ?

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  Рік тому +1

      @@CHRISVDH Yes, imagine the signal flow. Both signals will travel on both separate RCA cables from the RCA Y-adapter.

  • @daveN2MXX
    @daveN2MXX 3 роки тому +2

    It appeared to reduce both the qrm and the station you were trying to hear 🤔

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  3 роки тому

      You have to adjust both Gain so they're almost the same signal level which in turn lowers your receive signal a little.

  • @JoshiHp
    @JoshiHp 2 місяці тому

    Why didn't you show the performance while transmitting ?

  • @chilskater
    @chilskater 10 місяців тому

    how is the wiring for ptt Xiegu G90?

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  10 місяців тому

      I'm sorry, I no longer have my QRM eliminator and I'm not familiar with the Xiegu radios.

    • @chilskater
      @chilskater 10 місяців тому

      @@DarrenN4VFR alright...it should be PTT and GND pin?i hope someone can answer

  • @marcovL1970
    @marcovL1970 3 роки тому

    I never see how you need to wire it up on a normal CB 27 MHz radio

  • @stevenaustin2860
    @stevenaustin2860 3 роки тому +1

    i told you them earth rods would give you noise didn,t i lol only joking there cpt lol no great stream mate and can,t wait to get you in my log mate but thats if you can hear me over the noise lol eee. 73 mate and enjoy are wonderful hobbie from M7BYF in liverpool england

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  3 роки тому +1

      Hahaha... When's the best time for skip from the East Coast to England? Midnight my time? I'm listening on 40m around 7178 khz.

    • @stevenaustin2860
      @stevenaustin2860 3 роки тому

      @@DarrenN4VFR lol i have just turned the radio off for the night mate and im in bed getting ready for ham nation but ill take you up on that soon mate

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  3 роки тому

      @@stevenaustin2860 Alrighty! 73's have a good rest.

    • @stevenaustin2860
      @stevenaustin2860 3 роки тому

      @@DarrenN4VFR thanks mate and you

  • @asbestomolesto
    @asbestomolesto 3 роки тому

    I see at 08:30 that the noise drops, but also a LOT of signal drop down! :(

  • @rogershults5607
    @rogershults5607 2 роки тому

    Hello Captain Darren
    I got a Yaesu FTDX 101 MP
    QRM Eliminator is turned off can you transmit 200 watts ON it
    another problem I would have with The qrm Eliminator
    all my HF antennas come in the House to a big 2K a Ten Tec 229B manual Antenna tuner
    on the back of my Big Ten Tec 229B antenna tuner I got a coax jumper running to antenna switch box
    for two different Radios Yaesu FTDX 101 MP ICOM IC 7610
    thank you
    73

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  2 роки тому

      Congratulations on the Super Yaesu 101MP. It's a beast of a Transceiver! Don't mark my words, but if the QRM Eliminator is turned off and bypassing the circuitry, I believe you can transmit 200Watts. Maybe first try 120 Watts and work your way up to 200 Watts.
      It does get complicated when you start adding antenna switches. I'm just thinking that your QRM Eliminator also needs to have a seperate antenna to sense the interference. First try using it with one transceiver and once you mastered the skill, put in another antenna switch on it. Good luck!

    • @MONTY-YTNOM
      @MONTY-YTNOM 2 роки тому

      @@DarrenN4VFR Is it deff the TX GND and not the PTT socket on the 101MP ?

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  2 роки тому

      @@MONTY-YTNOM This is cut and paste from a QRM Eliminator PDF, "When transmitting through the QRM-Eliminator connect the PTT-Line from the back of your radio where normally your PA is connected. PTT is active when center pin is grounded. Do not connect to the PTT-key on your microphone! Max. power rating is 200W. if you want to use an amp, the QRM-Eliminator is to be connected between amp and exciter." I hope this helps.

    • @MONTY-YTNOM
      @MONTY-YTNOM 2 роки тому

      @@DarrenN4VFR PA ? In the video it shows TX G at 1:35min

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  2 роки тому

      @@MONTY-YTNOM No, that is my Yaesu FT101MP.

  • @hamidch632
    @hamidch632 3 місяці тому

    how to setup with a tuner atu 100

  • @charlessalard4636
    @charlessalard4636 2 роки тому

    Where you connect ppt of you have a Galaxy Saturn?? Thanks.

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  2 роки тому +1

      On the back of your radio, you will need to connect a coax from your radio's tx/rx to the TRX of the QRM Eliminator. Keep in mind, you will need to have another antenna (Sensing Antenna) of almost equal receive strength in order to properly cancel out the RFI.

    • @charlessalard4636
      @charlessalard4636 2 роки тому

      @@DarrenN4VFR on back of galaxy it has rca for rec.and rca for frequencycounter..when keying mic it has connectivity.could it connect to rca ppt.on eliminator??

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  2 роки тому

      ​@@charlessalard4636 Ohhhh okay. I don't think this will work for you because your transmit and receive are on two different ports. Typically, the TX/RX are on one coax port.

  • @allyburg7145
    @allyburg7145 2 роки тому +1

    I got one but don’t use any more I found better to choke noise out

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  2 роки тому +1

      I took it out because my City Ordinance allows us to only have 1 antenna/aerial. I haven't made any progress to fight them yet. Been busy with family at my other QTH. I'm gonna try a loop antenna as a receive antenna and my Zero Five antenna for my transmitting antenna.

    • @tractorman1990
      @tractorman1990 2 роки тому +1

      What did you find that works better?

  • @83redgrass
    @83redgrass 9 місяців тому

    I got the same thing on my radio. It's called rfgain. I say this because ,you're killing the wanted signal along with the noise. Note s levels. Snake oil

  • @erpece
    @erpece 3 роки тому

    From 8.00 min it clearly takes out some of that 'raspy' noise.

  • @larryoob8754
    @larryoob8754 Рік тому +1

    why would you use your pre amp?.... first way to cut your noise is to attenuate your signal not amplify it.... just sayin

  • @tangoalpha8381
    @tangoalpha8381 2 роки тому

    👍👍👍😃😃😃

  • @mxxx8146
    @mxxx8146 2 роки тому

    Hello, I have this device, unfortunately without instructions. Am CB radio operator. Can you please tell me what I have to connect where and how I set up the device. Best of all, step by step. I thank you in advance. With kind regards

  • @BobDarlington
    @BobDarlington 3 роки тому

    You turned down your main antenna most of the way.

  • @BarefootBeekeeper
    @BarefootBeekeeper 3 роки тому +3

    Easier to move house.

  • @cb2micro
    @cb2micro 2 роки тому

    Common mistakes that people do and they THINK they reduce noise.
    See this part of the video ua-cam.com/video/__bvoUl7A8U/v-deo.html
    Here you think the noise is down, but you are actually attenuate BOTH the signal and the noise.
    The signal is already S9+ and when you switch on the eliminator, the signal drops to S2.
    However the noise also drops to very low levels.
    You think that you have the correct setting, but in fact all you did is attenuate the signal and the noise!
    If you try to recover a weak signal with this method, you can never do it!
    I do not say the x-phaser does not work at all, It is just not the correct setting in this part of the video.

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  2 роки тому

      I use the QRM eliminator to drop my noise floor about 3 S-units. I pretty much leave both knobs vertical. I keep it on and use my IC7610 on remote. It helps a little.

  • @RonaldRodriguez-e1h
    @RonaldRodriguez-e1h 2 місяці тому

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  • @juvenaladrianomoraisneto5472
    @juvenaladrianomoraisneto5472 3 роки тому

    👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 PU5WCZ👍👊🙏

  • @calthomas3
    @calthomas3 3 роки тому

    Thanx Cap'n D :-) I love the ham energy you have and I expect you deliver that focus and energy to be tuned in as necessary as a pilot. AS mention previously, I am in Mims FL (between Daytona and Melbourne - near Titusville) - wish I was closer I would want to visit you. Thanx for the clip re: QRM Eliminator - tho puzzling to me is I thought your noise problem from a few months ago which was truly awful, was cleaned up by the power company ? is this a different unidentified source? cheersw - and again love your video clips - well done and your entire setup challenges and directions you took were informative. Cheers 'n 73 Cal K4BEW (see my profile on QRZ.com)

    • @DarrenN4VFR
      @DarrenN4VFR  3 роки тому

      Hello Cal! Thank you for watching. I know where Mims, FL is. I used to military convoy from Jacksonville, FL to the Cape Canaveral for a littoral force protection exercise. In regards to the RFI Power Line Noise. It's back on the higher bands. I mainly hang out on 40m at 7178khz and 7188khz and the noise there is very little at least I can hear distant stations better now. Probably as you said a different unidentified source of noise now. Till next time Cal, have a good day!

  • @hayaya8810
    @hayaya8810 3 роки тому

    now I understand how to use qrm eliminator. tnx.

  • @JC-cs6py
    @JC-cs6py Рік тому

    Hi I have the FTDX1200 and it has a PTT jack on the back and not a TX Ground, Can I use the PTT Input?