114 feet stock is actually really good. 88 feet in a big heavy truck is downright AMAZING. That is respectable performance even on high end sports cars.
They are not cheap for sure. The pricing is in line with other brands though. They fall somewhere in the middle on price but are the biggest brakes available. Going fast is fun, not being able to stop isn't though. It's nice to be able to stop quickly as well now.
tbats what these need for sure. it takes them 16.5 inch rotors to stop the 4000+lbs gt500 track car. so 16 inch being the size of a lot of peoples wheels are gonna make this thing feel awesome.
Got that same lime green 3 ton jack and a toolbox to match, harbor freight special 😝these brake make the truck look really good now, not that it was ever bad
I got myself 21 F150 SCREW 3.5EB FX4 I love y’all’s videos, always a pleasure! Seeing a new upload always puts a smile on my face! Keep up the awesome content guys!!
Fantastic video, amazing brake system, truly beautiful as well!! The kit looks like the highest of quality, and I cannot believe the size difference, holy smokes. Now you have the brakes to match the Hammer's power!
Awesome video, It has to be nice to have a product that not only looks good, but its fully functional. Oh and a clean truck to install them on lol. Nice job Sam!
I saw 15.5 on the website and the pads were much smaller than these as well. Either way they are also good brakes. No doubt about that. Adding the six piston calipers is a game changer. How are you liking your brakes?
Dang I’m jealous of where you guys live. No one to Collaborate with out here in SoCal. Plus I’m having a hard time finding a trust worthy place to do my supercharger. No Mitchell near me lol. Great vid guys!
That's pretty dang good idea! I wanted to see how things worked same, same at first but I'll probably end up making that upgrade soon. Thanks for watching Maverick!
Nice video fellas….what about the rear? So do you have a slotted rotor and a 6 piston caliper in the front and a factory rotor and caliper in the rear?
@@BackroadDriver could throw a powerstop kit on just the rear and use an aggressive pad like the z36. I think thats probably the best you can upgrade the stock setup? My 18 has an e-brake and they sold me a kit just an fyi.
Looking forward to this video!! Might have to seeiously consider an upgrade to APB on my 11 Raptor(Original owner) Love me some B⚡️D!!! Keep them videos coming Boys!!! 🔨🐺🍻
How do you use the template to check for available spacing? The website at APB doesn't explain this. I've got 2021Raptor with Vossen HF6-4 9.5" wide 20" diameter and +15 offset. Any assistance is appreciated....Love the channel!!
This link should be all the information you need to learn how to use the template. Way too complicated for me to explain here but you will basically print out that drawing and cut it out. Be aware you'll need a legal size paper or you'll need to print it onto two sheets at 100% scale and tape it together first. The calipers are larger than a regular sheet of paper. Once you've made your template you stick the part for the center board of the wheel into the bore and see if it will clear your spokes. www.motortrend.com/how-to/brake-wheel-fitment-check/
I’ve got a Gen 5 whipple 3.0 aka WR185F on my 2023 F150 but I’m thinking I may sell the blower and get a WR230F kit aka Whipple 3.8, I know what problems you’re having with your brakes because I’m having the same problems 😂
We appreciate you watching the channel. These are not for the average driver. They're not cheap, but 30ft is two car lengths at least. 5 or 10% better breaking could stop most wrecks from happening much less 25%. Everybody wants to go fast. Shortly thereafter they figure out their brakes can't stop fast enough to make the corner. Everyone will pay $500 for a cold air intake that makes 5 to 10 horsepower and somehow that makes sense for most people. It's all relative. This is my first set of big brakes, aftermarket at least. They seem to be the last thing that people want to pay for when upgrading. They make the biggest difference in keeping you out of trouble when going fast. I'm lucky to have them.
So I have essentially the same set up 2021 Roush F150 with the stage 2 whipple...what made you pick these over Baer or Wilwood? This is my next upgrade, but I'm just not sure which package to grab.
I went with them because they have the largest rotor and brake pad size available. Everyone else has a bit smaller rotor and the brake pad dimensions are quite a bit larger as well. There are lots of brake pad options available if you want to go ceramic or race specific applications because they work on Porsches etc. They don't have the big name yet but the product is extremely well built and is as good or better than the other brands you mentioned. If you decide to go with APB brakes, make sure you use the code BD10. It will save you some money.
Will a stock six spoke OEM wheel that is 22x9 with a +44 offset clear the APB calipers ?? Did you have to use spacers ?? The webb site states 20" wheel required 1.25 spacer ??
Maybe he'll pop a few door clips off or pull a few zip ties in a future video LOL! He's way more handy than we let on. We're contemplating taking on bigger projects in the future.
I'm getting ready to do this on my 2023 F150 while the 6" VERTEX coil over lift is being installed. I believe you used the stock brake lines. Is this correct?
Yep, the stock brake lines are all you need. Take my advise, make sure you scuff some of the coating off of the face of the rotors. It can be a little thick and cause some caking on the brake pads. It's best to sand most of it off and then break in the pads.
Damn it. This was one of the things I was contemplating on doing with the Baer brakes, after watching this video, I'm going to have to bite the bullet.
I was really hoping to see the brake line connection and bleeding for 2021+ F-150s. I hear scan tools and special bleeding tools are needed as well as placing the truck in Brake Service Mode. Would you direct me to link that shows or discusses these procedures. Thank you!
Didn't lose any functionality with electronic systems at all. Everything works the same including ABS. I even tried the active brake assist when backing up and it will still stop if it detects something behind you.
Very nice. Here are my questions. Are these 6 piston front and back? Can the hat on the rotor come color coded. You didn’t replace the brake lines. Is there a kit to do that to something more robust? What is the pricing for the kit and also expected installation costs or installation time?
This kit is for the front brakes only. Brakes are about 80% front 20% rear anyways. Upgrading the rear is negligible at best and I don't know of a kit available for the rear brakes on the F-150 that is more than just brake pads. I believe they only offer one color for the rotor hats at this time. Same goes for the calipers. They could be painted or powder coated pretty easily though. I didn't replace the brake lines because I wanted to compare the brakes one to one first. I plan on upgrading the brake lines as well. I'll be figuring out if brake lines for the previous generation work on this truck. Since this suspension changed a little bit it might not be as easy. Look for a future video soon. The current pricing is on their website. apbbrake.com/discount/BD10?redirect=%2Fproducts%2Fford-f-150-front At the time of the video posting you can use code BD10 to receive 10% off of your purchase, and free shipping, which is huge! This is for F-150 brakes only right now. They will also send you a free set of brake pedal covers. Installation cost is pretty dependent on your area of the country. If you're paying someone to have these put on expect to pay about an extra hour or less for installation possibly. They are not harder to install than any other brakes but you want them to take their time and be careful not to mess up the finish. You don't want them to mess anything up with your pretty calipers. Also ask them to make sure to use lots of brake cleaner on the calipers so they don't leave brake fluid sitting, causing paint issues.
I just ordered a set of these for my Whipple AirRide F150. I noticed in the video that the veins go in different directions on either side of the wheel. Are they not directional???
In y’all opinion what’s the best way to go about putting supercharger on the new 2021s safest and cheapest I just got my new 21 f150 and want to boost it but I was wondering if it would be good to do it through the dealer under a warranty or do it aftermarket? It will be daily driven and obviously got to have fun it like y’all’s
I recommend you find a Ford dealership that installs whipples that is the closest to you. You can go with the Whipple kit and their warranty or the Ford performance Whipple which comes with its own warranty. It's tuned about 75 hp less but still quite a fun truck to drive. If you ever need any warranty work it will be a whole lot easier to work with that dealer since they did the work.
@@BackroadDriver I appreciate it I’m actually pretty close to y’all but yeah just for now a warranty would be a better route I know it would be a little more expensive but maybe worth it ? Did you all install your own ?
I had my kit installed at Town & Country Ford and Bessemer AL aka TC Customs. I highly recommend them. They are just south of birmingham. I'm pretty sure they have kits available right now. If you end up going that route let them know you heard about them from us. They will take care of you. I wouldn't worry about having it done a few hours away. If something bad happens you'll want to take it back to them to have work done but that's usually not the case. These kits are pretty reliable.
Premium 91 is the minimum and if you have 93 or better it's even better.... You can't use anything less than 91 with the Whipple. Plan on spending a little bit more for gas.
You guys really need to SLOW DOWN, give us a BRAKE, STOMP THE PEDAL a lil' harder. Maybe this type vidya is not the same CALIPER as most i seem to STOP on.Thanks for sharing these videos.
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114 feet stock is actually really good. 88 feet in a big heavy truck is downright AMAZING. That is respectable performance even on high end sports cars.
$3,200+ for just the front set! That's nuts!!!
They are not cheap for sure. The pricing is in line with other brands though. They fall somewhere in the middle on price but are the biggest brakes available.
Going fast is fun, not being able to stop isn't though. It's nice to be able to stop quickly as well now.
Exactly, and 20 inch rims is even a bigger turn off.
@@ryanbrand3946how else you going to fit larger brakes when factory brakes require 17’s or 18’s
@ryanbrand3946 my 08 ram 1500 came stock with 20" rims
tbats what these need for sure. it takes them 16.5 inch rotors to stop the 4000+lbs gt500 track car. so 16 inch being the size of a lot of peoples wheels are gonna make this thing feel awesome.
That definitely proves those who say big brake kits don't shorten stopping distance wrong
Another great video. I hope that every one driving behind me in Hotlanta gets these monster brakes.
Got that same lime green 3 ton jack and a toolbox to match, harbor freight special 😝these brake make the truck look really good now, not that it was ever bad
Looks like you wear slowing down quicker before you break with new breaks vs original breaks.
Hmmm🤔 May have to look into those
Ok, I laughed out loud with then you did the brake reaction.
Now that’s a brake! 😳😎🛻
Holy stopping power!!!
I got myself 21 F150 SCREW 3.5EB FX4
I love y’all’s videos, always a pleasure!
Seeing a new upload always puts a smile on my face! Keep up the awesome content guys!!
Thanks!
Dang those things are beautiful. So much want but so $$$.
Them rotors though!
Fantastic video, amazing brake system, truly beautiful as well!! The kit looks like the highest of quality, and I cannot believe the size difference, holy smokes. Now you have the brakes to match the Hammer's power!
Thanks Shawn!
Awesome video, It has to be nice to have a product that not only looks good, but its fully functional. Oh and a clean truck to install them on lol. Nice job Sam!
Looks like the GT 500 Mustang rotor and caliber;) I need for our 21 Tundra soon to be supercharged. Sweet!
I have Wilwood TX6 kit on my whippled 2021…also 16”
I saw 15.5 on the website and the pads were much smaller than these as well. Either way they are also good brakes. No doubt about that. Adding the six piston calipers is a game changer. How are you liking your brakes?
Dang
I’m jealous of where you guys live. No one to Collaborate with out here in SoCal. Plus I’m having a hard time finding a trust worthy place to do my supercharger. No Mitchell near me lol. Great vid guys!
Why wouldn't you throw a set of SS Braided Lines on there?
That's pretty dang good idea! I wanted to see how things worked same, same at first but I'll probably end up making that upgrade soon. Thanks for watching Maverick!
I like BIG BRAKES and I cannot lie!
He can brake check you into the dash now!
@@BackroadDriver Probably his ultimate plan!
Brake check, brake check, one two, one two!
Dang those brakes are huge!! Excited too see how they perform and yalls take on them, and also when's that CORSA EXHAUST video comming!!
Soon!
Walking a Corvette ??? Holy shit !!! 😳
I gotta get me some of these!
Awesome 👌 👏 👍
i wonder if you just change rotors and pads what the difference would be.. that price is crazy..
Nice video fellas….what about the rear? So do you have a slotted rotor and a 6 piston caliper in the front and a factory rotor and caliper in the rear?
Factory rears. With the electronic parking brake most companies won’t make a kit. They don’t contribute a lot of hard braking anyway.
Got it, thanks
@@BackroadDriver could throw a powerstop kit on just the rear and use an aggressive pad like the z36. I think thats probably the best you can upgrade the stock setup? My 18 has an e-brake and they sold me a kit just an fyi.
Looking forward to this video!! Might have to seeiously consider an upgrade to APB on my 11 Raptor(Original owner)
Love me some B⚡️D!!! Keep them videos coming Boys!!!
🔨🐺🍻
Thanks Matthew!
Do they make a rear brake kit. Would help alot to equalize the truck.
They don’t. Less than 30% of braking happens with the rear. I think the stronger from brakes make it easier on the rears.
Wow, that is incredible , great video guys, PEACE
Thanks Alvin!
Any updates on the truck?
Did you have to put the truck into brake maintenance mode before changing out the brakes? Thanks
I wish I was rich and had these two as my personal mechanics
I can’t believe OAKLEY hadn’t reached out yet with a sponsorship!😂
That would be amazing!
How do you use the template to check for available spacing? The website at APB doesn't explain this. I've got 2021Raptor with Vossen HF6-4 9.5" wide 20" diameter and +15 offset. Any assistance is appreciated....Love the channel!!
This link should be all the information you need to learn how to use the template. Way too complicated for me to explain here but you will basically print out that drawing and cut it out. Be aware you'll need a legal size paper or you'll need to print it onto two sheets at 100% scale and tape it together first. The calipers are larger than a regular sheet of paper. Once you've made your template you stick the part for the center board of the wheel into the bore and see if it will clear your spokes. www.motortrend.com/how-to/brake-wheel-fitment-check/
Do they have something like this for the Bronco?
They have a 4 piston kit for the Bronco.
any update on these?
i’ve heard of people having ABS issues when doing big brake kits on 21+
I've seen the same Facebook posts you've seen. I can tell you with confidence that the APB breaks work amazing and I've had no issues.
Why did you have to do this!?! I just installed new 17x9’s on my Whipple 2022 f150 😂😢
I’ve got a Gen 5 whipple 3.0 aka WR185F on my 2023 F150 but I’m thinking I may sell the blower and get a WR230F kit aka Whipple 3.8, I know what problems you’re having with your brakes because I’m having the same problems 😂
Do they hv a kit for 17" rims on a F-150???
$3,200 for 25% better stopping power?? I'm not quite sure I'm sold on these boys but those rotors and calipers sure are beautiful looking.
We appreciate you watching the channel. These are not for the average driver. They're not cheap, but 30ft is two car lengths at least. 5 or 10% better breaking could stop most wrecks from happening much less 25%. Everybody wants to go fast. Shortly thereafter they figure out their brakes can't stop fast enough to make the corner. Everyone will pay $500 for a cold air intake that makes 5 to 10 horsepower and somehow that makes sense for most people. It's all relative. This is my first set of big brakes, aftermarket at least. They seem to be the last thing that people want to pay for when upgrading. They make the biggest difference in keeping you out of trouble when going fast. I'm lucky to have them.
@@BackroadDriver you make an excellent point. I agree with your point of view.
So I have essentially the same set up 2021 Roush F150 with the stage 2 whipple...what made you pick these over Baer or Wilwood? This is my next upgrade, but I'm just not sure which package to grab.
I went with them because they have the largest rotor and brake pad size available. Everyone else has a bit smaller rotor and the brake pad dimensions are quite a bit larger as well. There are lots of brake pad options available if you want to go ceramic or race specific applications because they work on Porsches etc. They don't have the big name yet but the product is extremely well built and is as good or better than the other brands you mentioned. If you decide to go with APB brakes, make sure you use the code BD10. It will save you some money.
@@BackroadDriver good info! And I appreciate you taking the time to respond.
Will a stock six spoke OEM wheel that is 22x9 with a +44 offset clear the APB calipers ?? Did you have to use spacers ?? The webb site states 20" wheel required 1.25 spacer ??
I was shocked Sam could bust them bolts loose, I thought Brad had to get on the wrench and break em loose lol
We stopped filming and I broke them loose for him and then he acted like he was straining to break them loose.
Maybe he'll pop a few door clips off or pull a few zip ties in a future video LOL! He's way more handy than we let on. We're contemplating taking on bigger projects in the future.
I seen the price of them brakes 🤯
They look beefy!
@ 10:23. 60-0 MPG 118 Feet. MPG?!?! 🤣 who’s gonna take you all seriously? Good thing you are both cute AF
2021 f150 5.0 limits at 105 mph WTF anything can do about it without messing with warranty?
Nothing you can do without a tune unfortunately.
Them breaks look mean what tire dressing you use on them tires things shine better then some trucks paint
I'm getting ready to do this on my 2023 F150 while the 6" VERTEX coil over lift is being installed. I believe you used the stock brake lines. Is this correct?
Yep, the stock brake lines are all you need. Take my advise, make sure you scuff some of the coating off of the face of the rotors. It can be a little thick and cause some caking on the brake pads. It's best to sand most of it off and then break in the pads.
@@BackroadDriver got it will do. Thank you.
Damn it. This was one of the things I was contemplating on doing with the Baer brakes, after watching this video, I'm going to have to bite the bullet.
I was really hoping to see the brake line connection and bleeding for 2021+ F-150s. I hear scan tools and special bleeding tools are needed as well as placing the truck in Brake Service Mode. Would you direct me to link that shows or discusses these procedures. Thank you!
Nice!
What is the biggest brakes for a 17" wheel?
Stock with power stop z36 pads
how is the 2022 tuus far, is it v8
how is 2022, is it v8?
Nothing worse than being able to go but not being able to stop
Do these work with the automatic braking with cruise contral and object avoidance?
Did y’all lose auto hold with these?
Didn't lose any functionality with electronic systems at all. Everything works the same including ABS. I even tried the active brake assist when backing up and it will still stop if it detects something behind you.
Very nice. Here are my questions. Are these 6 piston front and back? Can the hat on the rotor come color coded. You didn’t replace the brake lines. Is there a kit to do that to something more robust?
What is the pricing for the kit and also expected installation costs or installation time?
This kit is for the front brakes only. Brakes are about 80% front 20% rear anyways. Upgrading the rear is negligible at best and I don't know of a kit available for the rear brakes on the F-150 that is more than just brake pads.
I believe they only offer one color for the rotor hats at this time. Same goes for the calipers. They could be painted or powder coated pretty easily though.
I didn't replace the brake lines because I wanted to compare the brakes one to one first. I plan on upgrading the brake lines as well. I'll be figuring out if brake lines for the previous generation work on this truck. Since this suspension changed a little bit it might not be as easy. Look for a future video soon.
The current pricing is on their website. apbbrake.com/discount/BD10?redirect=%2Fproducts%2Fford-f-150-front
At the time of the video posting you can use code BD10 to receive 10% off of your purchase, and free shipping, which is huge! This is for F-150 brakes only right now. They will also send you a free set of brake pedal covers.
Installation cost is pretty dependent on your area of the country. If you're paying someone to have these put on expect to pay about an extra hour or less for installation possibly. They are not harder to install than any other brakes but you want them to take their time and be careful not to mess up the finish. You don't want them to mess anything up with your pretty calipers. Also ask them to make sure to use lots of brake cleaner on the calipers so they don't leave brake fluid sitting, causing paint issues.
@@BackroadDriver ok, so front only, 6 piston. Thanks for that clarification.
I just ordered a set of these for my Whipple AirRide F150. I noticed in the video that the veins go in different directions on either side of the wheel. Are they not directional???
In y’all opinion what’s the best way to go about putting supercharger on the new 2021s safest and cheapest I just got my new 21 f150 and want to boost it but I was wondering if it would be good to do it through the dealer under a warranty or do it aftermarket? It will be daily driven and obviously got to have fun it like y’all’s
I recommend you find a Ford dealership that installs whipples that is the closest to you. You can go with the Whipple kit and their warranty or the Ford performance Whipple which comes with its own warranty. It's tuned about 75 hp less but still quite a fun truck to drive. If you ever need any warranty work it will be a whole lot easier to work with that dealer since they did the work.
@@BackroadDriver I appreciate it I’m actually pretty close to y’all but yeah just for now a warranty would be a better route I know it would be a little more expensive but maybe worth it ? Did you all install your own ?
I had my kit installed at Town & Country Ford and Bessemer AL aka TC Customs. I highly recommend them. They are just south of birmingham. I'm pretty sure they have kits available right now. If you end up going that route let them know you heard about them from us. They will take care of you. I wouldn't worry about having it done a few hours away. If something bad happens you'll want to take it back to them to have work done but that's usually not the case. These kits are pretty reliable.
@@BackroadDriver thanks I appreciate have a good one 👍🏼👌🏼
@@BackroadDriver one more question when you got it installed did you do the warranty or did you just have them install it and get a custom tune?
What best / biggest for 2019 Navigator-L
Hard pass.. but not bad I guess. Towing stop would have been cool... like 3600lbs or higher..
We have a towing video planned but not with a before and after
With the Whipple do have to use 93 octane or are you able to use all grades?
Premium 91 is the minimum and if you have 93 or better it's even better.... You can't use anything less than 91 with the Whipple. Plan on spending a little bit more for gas.
Are they only Front wheel or do they also have Rear?
Rear only. The back are only about 30% of braking.
How do you like those venomrex wheels?
Absolutely love them!
You guys really need to SLOW DOWN, give us a BRAKE, STOMP THE PEDAL a lil' harder. Maybe this type vidya is not the same CALIPER as most i seem to STOP on.Thanks for sharing these videos.
What dash cam do you guys use?
That's a radar detector mounted on my mirror. We use GoPros for everything we film.
30ish ft difference is NUTS! What top speed were you at when you applied the brakes?
60 MPH. Testing was at same place and it had a pretty good grade downhill. I bet they get better after 500-600 miles…
@@BackroadDriverthanks fellas for testing these, nice job as always.
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