I Finally Got a New F-150 Hybrid and Ford's Not Going to be Happy
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- Ford F-150 truck review. I Finally Got a New Ford F-150 Hybrid and Here's What I Really Think of It, DIY and car review with Scotty Kilmer. Buying a Ford F-150. Are Ford trucks worth it? Buying a new Ford F-150 Hybrid. Buying a used Ford F-150. Should I buy a Ford? Are Fords reliable? The truth about new Ford trucks. Car advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 54 years.
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Might be ok in a fleet application or a business where you can deprecate it but I think I'll keep my old Chevy with a balanced and blue printed LSX, 1 wire alternator and a NV 4500 5 spd manual. Then again I only use it when I need it. To each his own.
When are you coming back to NY I need your help with my car ASAP
It could be an adaptive learning issue & a tranny reset may solve it.
You’re definitely being paid to advertise.
Looks like Pelosi Truck
Scotty hit the nail on the head as usual!
Hybrids make a lot more sense compared to EVs, especially right now.
Hybrids give you the best of both worlds and EVs also cost a TON of money.
@@JT_771 You are correct Sir !
Come back 2 to 3 years and see how that truck run i doubt it be running like new
@@JT_771 I'll drive my V8 sequoia and wait and watch for the truth to play out with EVs and the promise of simpler design and electric motor driven 4x4 with regenerative braking....someday.
@@FriedGreenCarrots It won't be running.
Hybrids lose potency around 100K miles.
At last, a true video by Scotty about the hybrid F150. I wanted to see this a lot. Great job Scotty 👍
Bring Scotty cars. He will review them.
@@Sunset4Semaphores I wish I could. I don't live in US unfortunately 😔
I play this game whenever I watch a Scotty video, I take a drink everytime Scotty goes 3 seconds without waving his hands. I'm coming up on 11 years of sobriety because of him.
If you tied his hands down by his side the videos would only e 15 seconds long LOL
When I watch Scotty I put a wind turbine in front of the screen to catch the wind from his hands flying around. I haven't had an electric bill in years.
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As an owner of a 2021 f150 hybrid, there's no way in hell you'll get 35 mpg in any situation. Best I got was 27 city (mostly downhill) which is great but the return trip I got 17 (uphill). I do love this truck but let's be realistic. This does not get 24/24. But it's about 20% better in city and 5% better on the highway. Plus you get the awesome generator. It's a great truck!
Can you run the generator without running the truck ?
@@indycharlie the truck (engine) is the generator.
@@sihyungpark8311 Ok . Does the V6 engine have to run to power the generator ?
@buford guber the power comes from the battery and the engine charges the battery
@@indycharlie to answer your question correctly, the battery is the generator, the motor will kick on every now and then to charge the battery for the generator...like run for 30 sec (motor) then off for 20min (battery)
Scott with 5M subscribers with only knowledge, a camera and common sense... there is still hope
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A camera
He is a dying breed though, unfortunately 🤦♂️
And a sense of humor 😁
He was Houston’s best mechanic until he moved
The benefits of an F-150 along with the improved mpg of a hybrid engine makes this a really neat vehicle.
I have a 21MY F150 with the 7.2KW --and i love it. I tow my 2021 Flagstaff Classic 36' RV trailer with it. Does awesome. Never enjoyed boondocking so much. The 7.2KW power wall exceeds all expectations. Ford nailed it.
Agree
Just had to stop in and say - You Rock Scotty! I'm 53 and have been working on cars (so I had something to drive) since I was 15. I have rebuilt engines, transmission, diffs and more but I always learn something from your videos!
This is most Ford-friendly commentary from Scotty I have seen in some time. I think Ford WOULD be happy if they watched this.
I know right 😂. I’m researching this configuration and when I saw his video my first thought was “alright he usually gives it to us straight” thinking there was a massive issue with them. 🤷🏻♂️
Mileage depends upon situation. I got 6.5 this morning and my record is 32 MPG over ~40 minutes on I10-I35 north of San Antonio. The circumstances matter a lot. On the highway, wind resistance takes over: if you drive at 63-68 MPH, you will get 23-24 MPG, but if you are willing to draft behind an 18 wheeler, you can get 26-28 MPG. If you drive at 80 MPH, you will get about 18-19 MPG. In the city, for very short trips you will get awful MPG (particularly in winter when it will run the engine to warm up the engine and battery), but for 3-5 mile trips at 25-40 MPH, you can easily get 24 MPG.
Finally, towing, you are NOT going to get 21 MPG. I don't have direct experience with this circumstance yet (I will update this post if I remember), but most folks are reporting mileage that is equivalent to the 3.5L Ecoboost (i.e. 12-15 MPG).
The thing that has impressed me the most is how quiet it is, engine or no. The sound insulation is just chopped foam, so it's almost 100% powertrain engineering that keeps it so quiet.
Last year during the big freeze in Texas a down the street neighbor ran his entire home for three days off of his hybrid F-150 until the power came on.
It will run 220 volt?
@@TheFishdoctor1952 Yes. It will even run a large high current arc welding machine without breathing heavy. And you can also charge your Tesla. 😁
yes. On 7200 watt package
@@nucleargrizzly1776 *TAAAKE MY MOOONAY $$$$$$!!!* 🤣😅😂
I used my Mig Welder at the cottage to fix the gate just the other day. Grinders, Cutoff saws, no issues at all.
So far it hasn’t showed any weakness.
I’m 3 1/2hrs from the cottage, I’m retired and head up 3 times a month.
Usually towing something .
Very happy with the Ride Quality, Cabin Noise Level, Towing Power etc.
I’m actually waiting for my new platinum I ordered. A few more weeks I think.
My old Tradesman type bones can’t wait for the massaging seats…
Scotty I would take the hybrid over the Lightning any day. I have friends who owned full electric vehicles and they say range anxiety is a PITA.. they moved over to a Prius and are much happier. I'll stick with my Coyote F150 for now. Cheers 🍻
*BAZINGA!* 😂🤣😅
PITA?
@@mr.mcbeavy1443 "pain in the azz "...and he is right.
What year is your coyote? Mine's 2013. I love it.
I have a 2016 f 150 I bought brand new with the coyote, I will keep it until it dies or until 400k km and turn it into a back woods truck
I'm looking to get the Hybrid Powerboost in 2023 when we trade in our current F150 Super Crew. Very interested in the next updates to clean up the 2nd gear issues. I've heard differences in lots of reviews, but by second year I hope it cleans up some of those issues. Looking forward to the better gas mileage. Our current truck has been fantastic for us as a family.
Having spent over a decade with Ford Cert, Vehicle Environmental Engineering, and Powertrain Electronics, this is an outstanding truck and the critique is not so bad, shift points are always contentious, depending on the driver, ask your wife! I golf with many calibrators from Powertrain Operations Engine Engineering, POEE (as they used to call it). There is a lot that goes into this hybrid. Well done Scotty. Well done Oakwood Blvd, Dearborn MI.
Hi Scotty, The transmission is supposed to skip 2nd or even 4th during normal driving. If you request power via the foot feed, it will shift into those gears. Or - you select "Tow-Haul" or "Sport" mode and it will always use the next sequential gear up or down. Daily mixed driving with at least 50% city highway in the DFW area I'm averaging 22.4mpg since my last oil change about 7500 miles ago. I always leave trip 2 computer alone between oil changes to gauge what the engine is doing. I reset trip 1 every fill-up and can also see the trend move up - down based on my driving habits or fuel blends, E.g. winter blend vs. summer blend. I had better mpg in the summer, somewhere around 22.9-23.2 with the same driving.
And... obviously, it an "Ecoboost" engine with an electric motor so... If you request "Boost", you got it! But along with that comes lots of fuel! This thing will really scoot. Lots of folks don't realize you need to train your truck to drive economically. Do it over a few weeks/fill-ups. If you run like a scalded "you know what" for a few days you will get worse mpg even when you drive relaxed thereafter... until it relearns that you aren't running from the cops.
What charges the large battery (high voltage) on the 7.2 generator model? Something on the motor but what?
@@billl3936 it’s Constantly being recharged. Either by the engine or regeneration while coasting or braking. The battery is the same size on all hybrids. The inverter for the on board pro power generator has nothing to do with the performance of the truck. It’s simply an option for how much power you want the battery to provide as a generator.
Scotty is a good old fashioned mechanic and he really knows what he’s talking about. I enjoy watching him. He seems to enjoy it so much. I appreciate it.
Scotty makes alot of sense talking about hybrids being usable! Why do we have clueless, ignorant people making laws and policy for the rest of us instead of smart, pragmatic individuals?
Scotty won't buy a hybrid.
It is because since 1963, they have been SELECTED, not ELECTED.
properly worded
Try buying a used one and it may be a different story.
What do you mean ,we have the best politicians money can buy.
Me talking to my wife-"Hey honey, I think we need a back up generator for the house in case the power goes out" Wife-"Good idea, how much will it cost us?" Me-"$72K before taxes."
And you *KNOW* it's easier to ask forgiveness than permission!!!🙄😳😏
@@fookingsog Depends upon who you're asking to forgive you! 😂
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I’ve had multiple 10spd F150s and the “skip” shift is normal for those trucks. If you select sport mode the truck will use every gear up to 10th when you accelerate from a stop.
These were hero's during last years Great Texas Freeze. They can keep the lights and furnace on during a power outage. Having said that I still think I would get a V8 and a Honda generator.
Loving my 2021 Hybrid. Getting overall 24 mpg's, reliable, onboard power, under 6 sec 0-60. Lots to love.
Yeah my tuck pulling 6500lbs gets around 9-11mpg. Never even close to 21mph. That's amazing
even ford says the best is 26 mpg not pulling anything so I wouldn't believe this.
@@Qusin111 You'd be surprised. Sometimes those numbers are conservative due to them not wanting to get called out on false advertising. Also, some vehicles of the same make/model perform way different than some others. There is a reason there are exceptions to the rule with vehicles that tend to have issues (some manage perfectly fine without any).
When I tow our 5 000 pound Hybrid with my Tundra I get around 12 or so mpg. About 18 litres per 100 kms for us Canucks.
My 3.5 ecoboost got 7.9 towing 9,000 lbs at 70 mph for 14 hours straight. Only stopping for gas. He wont get anywhere near close to 21 mpg.
I think the owner was smokin’ some good sh!t. I didn’t think Scotty was this gullible on mpg numbers, no possible way this truck would get anything close to 21 towing 8000 lbs and 36 mpg empty, even going downhill 😂
Pure solid information getting input into one's brain, without even one " Uhh " or slur in his words during speaking. I've learned so much from this man. 🏆
Scotty, I have the exact same truck. I get the great gas mileage and ride that you are referring to. I really like the ride and the handling. I traded my 2011 V-8 F-150 in on this truck. Gas mileage is greatly improved and the power is seemingly more. Has more torque for sure. I moved to Maryland from Houston (Pasadena) Texas in 1986. Wish I would have gotten to meet you b4 moving away. Job opportunity moved me.
I’ll bet that was culture shock, going from Houston to Maryland ...
When are you moving back ??
I have never been a fan of hybrid systems, for me a good old used truck with a reliable V8 would be my choice.
Electric pickups I can see them being used at Airports, Mills, Processing Plants and the like, where they could go charge up if they needed to.
Forgot I remembered that in 2021 the F150 can get an onboard Generator, so maybe the F150 EV can get a charge from a regular F150.
Yeah…I see the electric trucks doing well in fleets, where they can recharge overnight.
Ive got a pre order on a cybertruck with 500 mile range. It will charge to 80% every night in my garage. So I'll have about 400 miles for my daily commute or 200 miles for when I'm hauling. That will do.
these hybrids are much better than fully electric here in Canada, due to lack of charging stations, cold winters, plus once you finally find a charging station have to wait hours in line to charge your car!
Too much complexity. Just get a V8. This thing will break in $$$ ways.
Mail trucks would be a great application for hybrids.
Mind blown 🤯 finally anAmerican vehicle Scotty approves of 👍👍
He approved of the panther platform Ford cars too
Time will tell. I wouldn't stick my neck out that far Scotty. Like a politician some things you can't take back.
I have the 2021 F150 with 153,000 can’t be happier never a problem, I over maintain it, but that’s how I role.
I had a CMax hybrid and got like 46 in the summer (AC runs on electric) in the winter I only got 36 because the heater needed hot water so the gas engine ran more. Loved the vehicle! Hybrid is way better no anxiety about fuel as the gas engine is still there.
Been watching this guy since his first post. Happy to see the successful subscriptions in the millions. This is a great video on the new hybrid trucks.
I have had this truck (the Sport Lariat edition) since October. It's been great. I was leary at first of a hybrid, but this isn't your grandma's prius kind of hybrid. When you punch it, you get twin turbos plus that 54 electric hp motor! It moves! Like Scott said, you have the best of both worlds. You get the power you need when you need it and much better gas mileage when you don't need the power. The 7.2 KWH onboard generator with 220 v and 120 volt outlets. This will power our camper off grid if we wanted. With the supercrew can, we flip the back seats up, and our two large Airedale Terriers have plenty of room when we go on trips. As for the 2nd gear issue, I barely notice it or care. It depends on what bothers you or not. We did get an extended warranty just because of all the tech which will be very expensive if any of it fails. All in all, it's a great truck, and it fits in well with our life style of trailer towing, camping, and working our our 10 acre property.
Get back to us at 100K.
Hopefully it will be as reliable as Grandma's Prius. I drove a 2013 prius 170,000 miles with o problems. I sold it when I retired to go down to 2 vehicles. I am seriously considering a Powerboost.
What's been your mpg with real world driving?
How does towing affect your mileage?
Prius has a similar shutter, but it's just the transmission rolling the motor over to start it.
I own a 2023 hybrid. It definitely gets 21-22 mpg all around. I have got 24. I have never got close to Scottie’s 21 mpg pulling our small 21’ camper. Pulling the camper the mpg is about what my non hybrid ecoboost got which is about 10 mpg.
My 21 Powerboost has gone 3947 miles on 132 gallons. Love it
Man, you hit the nail on the head. I am seriously considering this as my next truck. Full electric trucks just aren’t ready for prime time if you tow anything
I grew up around Ford Motor Company! Grand Dad worked at the Rouge since the day it opened! My Dad went to Ford Trade School, then became a Ford supplier later on in life! I was a Motorcraft parts distributor for years, worked in Ford engines, went to Ford schools for ignition systems, fuel systems! I knew guys in Ford advanced light truck design, and made car haulers that hauled Fords! Our family was tied into Ford and didn’t blink an eye! Nowadays I can’t stand to see what’s going on in the upper management! They’re like fish out of water with some of their programs! I can no longer stick up for them, I just can’t! The big three has gone to hell! It’s heartbreaking! Ford was my life! Now I work on nothing but Ford trucks built no later than 2014! I hoard Ford V 8’s and C6 and C 4 automatic transmissions! Also the Borg Warner 4 speed and 435 New Process! I refuse to get involved in the computer systems of today!
...and I *BET* you *KNOW* what *FORDITE* is!!! 😁👍🏻
The newer Fords are just overloaded with electronics that will be very expensive to replace, IF there are even parts available. I see alot of these types of vehicles headed to the crusher bc the cost of repairing the electronics will exceed the used value of the truck.
@@northdakotaham1752 Exactly mate
Spot on Scotty, EV's have a host of challenges, chief of which is the lack of charging stations (Not to mention the 20 minute wait for "Fast Charging" or the diminished range in the cold or hot weather. Having owned hybrids and worked on them, there are still challenges but this is an example of a reasonable compromise.
Don't usually get to hear scotty speak highly of hybrids. Cool video and unexpected success of a ford truck
Love my 2021 lariat hybrid. Took alittle learning curve but able to get 24 to 27.7 in town. Rides great and tows awesome.
I can't wait to hear what you think of that truck 5 years from now! Every dollar that princess saves in fuel is going to cost 2-3 dollars in repairs and resale value drop!
I agree
Possibly. But then again Freight Trains use a Diesel-Electric hybrid configuration...Diesel engine spins high voltage/amperage generators which then power the electric motors which move the train. Same basic principle, slightly different configuration.
Try to stay positive..
On my 17 F-150 with the 3.5 that I use to commute from my home in Mississippi to my job in Texas, I get 20 miles to the gallon and I’m thinking of trading for a newer one and this video helped me narrow my decision on looking for a new
I have the same truck. 20 mpg empty. Towing a 9,000 lb trailer it gets 7.9mpg
This is why I've been recommending plug-in hybrid vehicles, because you can do all the fancy electric stuff when you want to but you have a gasoline engine you can fall back on when something inevitably goes wrong or you just run out of range
Nice to see Scotty reviewing a full-size truck with a hybrid. I own both a V8 Lexus and a hybrid Chevrolet. I keep wondering if an EV is in my future, but keep looking at the hybrid model.
That 7.2 KW inverter is great and "cheap" as options go. Cheaper than standalone emergency inverter /generators of same capacity. Great power source for home in case of power failure. The "e" F150 version also has it, but if your power is out for days, you need to charge your truck. Hybrid makes far more sense. Just keep dumping gas in it.
I have the new F150 PowerBoost and love it. I can use my 7.2kw to power my travel trailer when I am boondocking a couple of days at a time. I don't get as good a gas mileage as this guy does but still good. Around town I drive in eco mode because the truck shifts better with the 570 torque as well as for the mileage.
My son has a 2021 F150 platinum hybrid. I don’t know what your friend is smoking. My son gets about 24 mpg without a load and 12/13 mpg pulling a 21ft ski boat. I bought a 2021 Tundra, the last year of the V-8. With the synthetic oil from the factory it took at least 10k miles to break it in and get max horsepower. This is common. Both consumer reports and I get 20mpg at 70mph. BTW I love your channel. As a retired engineer I find you very informative and I almost always agree with your diagnoses.
I agree with the practicality of hybrids over EVs at least for a one car family. That being said I'm praying we see some different PHEV options in the truck market
36 mpg on the highway? I don't think so. 20 mpg pulling 8,000 lbs also sounds optimistic.
Yes, I have one of these - 4,500 miles on it.
I was going to say that my civic gets less than 36 hwy no way that truck is getting over 25 on a good day
My friend says 21-22mpg NOT towing and 16mpg towing 7k lbs. However, he loves the truck…. Why? Because he can sit on the right of way all day and use only 2-3 gallons of gasoline versus every other truck diesel or gas used 10-15 gallons idling same amount of time.
@@blondeguy08 16 towing 7k lbs? that is GREAT
Ford F150 Powerboost is the only true hybrid vehicle in my eyes that totally nailed the concept. It has a combustion engine mated with a electric motor. Has a small battery that is able to power the electric motor to drive the truck for a short distance at lower speeds. Then the combustion engine can take over and recharge the battery while it powers the truck, then repeat. Also the truck can be used as a large generator to power large tools and multiple appliances. Then the truck can turn on combustion engine to recharge the battery and repeat. And my favorite hybrid option is to run the AC and heat with the combustion engine off only running from the battery until depleted, then the combustion engine will start to recharge the battery and repeat. This is what I call a true hybrid. If Ford can duplicate this feat with all other models they will dominate. And no need to go all electric for now.
They’re working on a Superduty hybrid or all electric right now. It’s a secret so I don’t know if it will a hybrid or an all electric.
I own this truck and is a beast, the only issue I have now is the apple play wireless connectivity. I also put a 6” BDS lift on it and it looks like a monster. Despite the lift, I still get better mileage than a conventional lifted truck, it drives smooth and is all around a great tool. Power up a camp? No problem. I love it!
I own a powerboost similar to this. 36 mpg ain’t happening unless it’s an incredibly short distance and you can manage to stay on battery a lot. My commute is about 10 miles, and I’ve put it in eco and drove 55 mph down the highway with a tailwind and the best I can get is 27-29. It’s usually in the 22-25 range.
That's interesting. My 2.7ecoboost f150 clocks in an average of 21 MPG in mixed driving. Drops to 10 when towing our camper though.
Hybrids dont give you much benefit if your driving on the highway
This has been my experience as well through the first 5k miles. I love my truck so far.
Completely agree. Going 60 mph, I can get 28.5mpg on the interstate. If I go 70 mph, I get 23mpg. I’m a very conservative driver and I can’t come close to 30mpg, much less 36mpg. I do love my PowerBoost though. It’s a great truck!
@@vroomgc that will improve with the technology hopefully. Some kind of regenerative system from the wheel spin that can charge the battery at highway speeds. In theory you would be able to cruise forever not using gas.
I'd honestly like to get one of these. I do construction and landscaping and this would be sweet. I just wish the dealers didn't get their tax with it
Sure would be cool to be able to purchase direct from manufacturer, without having to pay the dealership commission.
In this age and day we should be able to buy straight from the manufacture
Straight from manufacturer would be awesome!! Just pay the tractor trailer for delivery. @ford @gm @dodge
Way many more direct sales for less. In the long run many would do this and shipments would be cheaper with bundling to certain areas. Many ppl would p/u in a certain location just to drive the new baby home. We need to stop price gouging personally owned dealerships. 20k for sierra foh
@@calderondennis franchising laws prohibit it. Manufacturers would love to cut the middle man out. They tried for years and gave up. It’s the state that has to be willing to change the laws. Write your state legislature. It will never be changed because dealers have so much political pull that it won’t likely work unless it’s an overwhelming popular push.
I work at a dealership. Prices are high because consumers are reselling them for more than sticker price. Which then makes the dealers turn around and sell them for more. My dealer is only charging sticker price and believe me that's a discount nowadays. But most things we buy off on the middleman. Food, gas, etc.
Im really leaning towards getting the hybrid with the 7.5kw option. Being in construction it just makes sense, especially working in remote areas where the hydro hasn't been ran yet.
I just got my 2022 XL version of this same exact truck and it is truly amazing. I get 30+mpg driving to work. And I can back feed my electrical panel and run almost my entire house off of the truck! Can't beat that when a hurricane comes.
I have a ‘19 F150 5.0 with the 10 speed. He’s right, the 10 speed IS wild. Mine is kinda clunky too in and around 2nd gear. But it works. I just really love the feel and sound of the V8. While this seems nice and convenient (especially for gas mileage) i won’t be transitioning to anything electric for a long time
The 10 speed isn't supposed to shift through all 10 of its gears all the time. This isn't a Turbo HydraMatic that's skipping 2nd. My F150 shifts 1 3 5 6 7 9 10 more often than not, unless I'm 'on it'. It picks the gear the truck needs based on speed, load, transmission mode, and throttle position. The guy who owns this truck is overthinking the shifting. Or, under-thinking it...
You are 100% correct. My 10 Expedition will often shift 1-3-5 or even 1-3-4-6. Its skipping gears to maintain the best balance for power and efficiency based on throttle command. Its very similar to how GM had the old Tremec T-56 6 Speed manual transmissions were setup in the Camaro and Corvette back in the day. It would skip from 1st to 4th to save on fuel when the power demand wasn't there.
So that shudder that Scotty was talking about is normal??
@@northdakotaham1752its not normal but the dealer will say it is to avoid warranty work. I’ve owned a 2020 scatpack with an 8 speed auto and a 2020 mustang gt with a 10 speed and they both shift funky especially going up inclines at low speeds. I took both in and they “reprogrammed” the tcm only for it to do it again after a day or 2
@@jayg3069 all that high tech....only to get a few more mpg! Doesn't make any sense to me. I like the "keep it simple stupid" technology better.
That you have to think about shifting an automatic transmission kind of defeats the purpose (a decidedly non-automatic automatic).
Problems with the transmission? Thousands spent on tranny repair and initial high cost of purchase of this hybrid buys a LOT of gas for my 5.7L V8 in my Toyota Tundra, which can last 400,000 miles easily.
i have to agree. even if the ford lasts 100k miles before it breaks, its still a hybrid truck breaking. its gonna cost an arm and a leg to fix
I think the majority of people that will buy one of these trucks will get rid of them before the warranty runs out. At least if they have any common sense.
@@bigmikeobama5314 probably 2 arms and 2 legs
You’re probably correct with the F150 hybrid not lasting 400k miles, but you have to keep in mind the savings in cost of gas over 400k miles. You’ll spend roughly between $25,000 and $30,000 more on fuel for your Tundra than on on an F150 hybrid. Of course the hybrid will be more to work on and there are other variables too, but this is just food for thought. By the way, I bought my 2021 Powerboost, XLT, with lots of upgrades and paid $53,500. The MSRP was right at $60k. I got it in March before the the chip shortage changed everything. The new Tundra’s cost about the same too.
well oil is only 87 bucks a bbl and it's the middle of winter....wait till June when it's 125 bucks a bbl. 😆 you'll be considering something different.
That’s pretty amazing fuel mileage. My 2016 3.5 ecobooost with 6 gears gets 21 hwy and 10 when towing our 5000 lbs. camper. Wouldn’t want the bill for a new one but indeed I’m impressed.
Thank you so much Scott your knowledge and experience have helped me so much over the years I appreciate you taking your time to teach us than you
A few thoughts about this video…I own a 21 Powerboost that Ford is doing a buyback on. I had transmission problems from the start. A new transmission was put in at 800 miles. Problems still persisted, but Ford is making it right. I just ordered a new 22 Powerboost yesterday.
Other than the transmission, I love this truck. I work out of my truck and I love being able to run the a/c or heat, 4G hotspot, power my computer and printers all with just battery power. In other words, no engine idle except when the truck turns on to recharge the batteries. In my case, the engine comes on about every 7-8 minutes for around 45 seconds to charge the batteries.
Also, as it pertains to gas mileage, I would almost bet my life the owner did not get 21 MPGs pulling an 8k lb. trailer. I’ve pulled a few light loads (2k lbs.) and got 14-16 MPG. I did take a trip from TN to NC (575 miles UNLOADED) and got 26.8 MPG driving the speed limit or 1 or 2 over. This was hand calculated.
All in all, this is a great truck.
Yea if your previous pickup has problems go buy another one of the same thing... LOL 😆
@@davebrown4841 Every company will make lemons. Not all of them are bad.
engine comes on for only 45 seconds to charge the battery? damn that's pretty good
@@arthurfernandes2402 yep even the new tundra is having issues, even though the fanboys don’t want to admit it
What you’ve said is what I’ve experienced over a year with mine. Pretty good job Ford.
Love my 2021 F150 Powerboost Hybrid Platinum. Current MPG after 2500 miles is only 22 with mix of highway and roads. Agree with low speed gear skipping, need to bring mine as well. With a > 600 mile range with a full tank, I'm loving the efficiency and range. Not buying the Lightening any time soon. Thank you for your video!
Damn, awesome video 👍👍..
Happy weekend Scotty 💥💥
I have a 2019 F-150 with the v8 395hp no turbos...consistent 17-22mpg twice the power of the last ford pickup and it took 2000 pounds in the bed no problem (50 bags of wood pellets) 2wd regular cab 8 foot. Great utilitarian truck with rubber floor mats will probably last 30 years like the last one. I am just gonna put my own pure sine wave inverter in the middle on the floor if I want to electrify it. lol. give my fuel give me fire.
These F-Series are amazing, love your content Scotty.
It isn't a surprise. Ford is one of the biggest manufacturers in the world. They sure know how to build a car.
@@dragospahontu they actually dont build any cars besides the mustang, which is mexi-junk now. in fact most of their cars before that were as well. we'll see what kind of shape these ford hybrid trucks are in several years. seen many a gm product on the road with 375k+ but not many fords
For $70,000 they SHOULD be.
Fords have come a long way. My ford stock shares have made me a lot of money, went from 4 dollars a share to 20 now. :)
Nice video and honest. Thank you Scotty for cutting through the manure and telling it like it is.
Haven’t watched the video yet, it’s going to be a good one as I love the caption!!
Keep up the great informative videos.
I think Ford would be very happy with this review. Certainly got me considering it. The ONLY negative is it skips 2nd gear on normal acceleration which you think is a simple software fix.
Ford's 10 speed transmission is so bad that their transmission techs are walking off the job. I was without my 19 5.0 10 speed trans @46k for 3 months before I traded it while it was in the shop for a different brand. The first dealership I took it to, the tech walked out after swapping the throttle body which didn't fix it. This dealer had it over a month. They called me and said I'd have to find another dealer to finish the repair. I found another dealer 80 miles away from the first that took it and they kept it another 2 months. I hadn't paid for the "Golden Warranty" so I wasn't eligible for a loaner the whole time I was without my truck. I traded it for a 21 Titan and 2 months later I got a Ford Service survey from a 3rd dealer that apparently finished the job.
Now I know what the "F" in Ford stands for and their crack will grow together before I buy or recommend anything with Ford on it.
I knew someone with one of the newer 5.0L F150 and it used oil as a brand new truck. From what I was told the paint job was questionable. I guess thin and coming off in places.
I also had a 19 5.0 and the 10 speed tranny was complete junk. I also had the "typewriter noise" that apparently is completely normal. The thing chugged oil back which ford said was normal. Good thing it was a lease. Now I got a 21 with the 3.5 eco and I gotta say the tranny is much better with this one. I have weird electrical problems sometimes. The paint job is horrible, has dirt in it and clear bubbles everywhere. I waited 6 months for it and was pretty disappointed with the quality control. Good thing it's also a lease. Scary to buy a new Ford truck these days.
@@chickenfarm09 I had a 1989 F 150 Stripper.
300 CID 6. 5 Speed 4X4.
20 mph empty on hwy.
200K plus. 1,700 bucks.
Off roading was great fun 😁🇺🇸
Ford is junk and its amazing that people who still buy it are enabling Fords low quality build . Stop buying junk and they will quit making junk . Its really simple as that .
When I bought my truck I ran the numbers often it was just as cheap to buy the f250 as it was the 150. I was hesitating because the 10 speed was out and the 7.3 was about to be released. However, I didn't want to be the first in line beta tester so I went with the f250 and the tried and true gas 6.2L with the 6 speed trans. Love the setup and its plenty quick with the 4:30 rear end. MPG sucks at 14 and ride a little rough but overall its been a good truck so far.
I just drove from the twin cities to Frankfort Michigan, 29.6 MPG. I love the truck. You’re right about the power it’s got some serious acceleration.
Everyone I know who owns one has absolutely loved it. I have a worker whose young and he put a 6” lift with 35” tires I his. He is still getting 20 -22 mpg city. Highway is about 18-22 at 65.
I’m waiting for the 2024. I own a construction company and having a generator handy is really helpful.
I got this truck and love it so far. I haven’t gotten anywhere near 37 mpg though. I find that hard to believe I average about 22 mpg which I’m happy with.
I agree, and I find 21 mpg towing 8,000 VERY hard to believe. I've never in my life heard of anyone getting good mpg while they tow. Maybe he's towing in the flat lands or going down hill? 😄
I have this truck, in the Lariat Mid Package, with a few carefully chosen options. I just rolled over 4300 miles in it, and so far, I love it. Haven’t towed anything yet, so I can’t speak to the mileage while pulling something, but I get great mileage in Houston city traffic (27 MPG), and at 65 mph on the highway, I get a little over 25. For all the power and capability, that is pretty impressive. My rig has the FX4 package, and the ride is quiet and smooth. It is a damn fine highway vehicle, and the seats are more comfortable than I expected. I can put in 6-8 hours behind the wheel, and not feel beat up at the end of the day. So long as I don’t find hidden gremlins down the road, I think Ford hit this one over the fence.
@@Elvis222 I agree. The comfort was something I wasn’t expecting and it’s actually amazing. I got the XL model and it’s still the smoothest, most comfortable ride I’ve ever had.
Same here. If I really feather the accelerator I can get up to 24mpg in town. Towing, I averaged probably around 14mpg on the Highway (some flat, some hills, towing a little 2200 pound teardrop). I’ll take it though. Most of my driving is in town.
I forgot to mention, I can get up to 30mpg on the Highway if it’s flat and not much traffic to contend with.
GM really missed the opportunity to bring this technology to large vehicles. They have the Volt which is a great concept that nobody is buying. If they had concentrated on this spectrum of the automotive market which everyone seems to be interested in, they could have dominated.
You are absolutely correct the volt system I thought as well was the next generation of power plants. It would provide efficiency and the ability to recharge while driving. This platform had the ability to use different fuels from straight ethanol, gasoline or pick the next fuel craze. After all that money in development GM just shelved it? Makes no sense to me either.
The first modern style hybrid drivetrain was in a Pontiac tempest prototype in 1962, if gm had an foresight they could have started selling a working hybrid long before Toyota introduced the Prius (the Prius is still the first mass produced vehicle with a modern hybrid drivetrain)
The volt was the perfect platform. Full electric driveline with a small ICE generator. Don't understand why this isn't the predominant approach in new vehicles.
@@kennordsfan1494 I'm pretty sure they were catching fire so gm had to recall all of them
I’m got a 2018 Chevy Volt. I get 59 miles on electric and 360 miles per on gas. Love it!! By the way it was the Chevy Bolt that caught on fire while charging..
I used to own a 1988 F'150 with a 4.9 liter in-line 6. The best fuel economy was 17mpg on the highway.
I feel more alive with each movement of Scotty’s hands. Thank you for these videos!!!!!
Hello Scotty, happy to see you recovered from the plague. Great presentation 😁
Dear scott.
Having driven my first plugin I started thinking:
Am I correct that gasoline engines should not run cold, on and off, and that they need to heat up to working temperature for optimal economy over the engine life cycle?
If so, should not plugins be programmed for this? Now they seem to happily churn the petrol engine as the batteries needs them.
the gasoline engine should run for an extended period of time and not be let to cool down unnecessarily, or new tech has made this common sense obsolete.
I own a F150 Powerboost and it's a fantastic truck. Scotty's review is right on target!
Thank you so much for your invaluable information, highly appreciate it, keep it up the outstanding job, have a great day.
Let's see, it has everything scotty loves. GDI, Turbochargers, 10 speed, and batteries that go bad... 🤑
I think the real questions are
How long will it last?
How much for a new electrical traction motor to replace?
Whats the Warrenty like?
How reliable is the twin turbo ecoboost and 10 speed auto?
right😂😂 but apparently he gave it a thumbs up lol
It’s dual injection port and direct
That's the typical idiosyncrasies and inconsistencies of scotty. He's right a large portion of the time. But he's glossing over the actual recalls of this truck has and the Gremlins
Current 2018 Platinum owner. The hybrid could very well be my next truck. Just not ready to go full EV…for so many reasons. I’m sure the day will come, though. Great review, Scotty! 👍🏼
I hated the hybrid when it first launched. I am not one to go for anything but the V8. Then I looked at the hour meter on my 2015 Lariat, and realized almost a third of the hours are idling. Then the owner of my dealer started showing me more on those trucks and I was impressed. We’ll see what the future holds, I might need an F250 by then. But the hybrid will hands down be the one is not. I just wish I could get one in a SuperCab
My wife has a 2015 Ford C-Max hybrid we purchased new. Most reliable vehicle I’ve ever seen. Only needed fluids and filters so far. Ford is good at making hybrids; I might consider this truck.
I have the same truck in Limited version. Best mileage I’ve gotten is 25mpg until I filled it up in Nevada while on vacation. Jumped to 30 mpg for first time. Shows how bad gas is in CA. Truck’s been great since bought it 2-1/2 years ago. No issues .
I'll keep my 02 Silverado. Just put $1700 into it replacing the main rear seal and the oil pump. Running like new with 350k on the odo. Doesn't even have the GM lifter tap any more. Completely gone. Runs so smooth its scary at 350k. Motor should be good till 500k now. I like it because there are very few sensors to go bad and drive you crazy. How much are those hybrid trucks?? $40-50k at least?? . That buys a lot of extra gas.
These are like $70k fully loaded
My son has the same truck. Bought it used at 144k. Still running great after several years. The new Silverado’s are not as good, but those older ones are beasts. With good care you’ll get a half a million.👍
@@_zigzak $70 grand for a half ton pickup. That's insane! 😠
@@robertburns3014 For a truck that can power your house, it's not a bad deal.
@@Razoraw true. It's kind of a moot point for me anyway right now because I can't afford a $70.000 + vehicle.
After driving a Lexus CT200h for 3 years I’m definitely interested in a full size hybrid truck.
I know they’re not available as a diesel hybrid yet, but I think a diesel hybrid F350 or Ram 3500 would be great.
3 years is nothing. Get about 100K on something then see what you got or dont got.
Love and appreciate all your reviews!
Awesome truck. The only thing I'd change is the center shifter taking up space, plus the hideaway feature is something that could break where you'd be stuck because the shifter won't pop up. Ford could have just kept the column shifter or at least put the shifter on the dash.
I was considering an F150 for awhile with the 7.2kw inverter, but I was also worried about the transmission. I would also be curious on whether or not Scotty is aware of Ford reportedly having major electrical issues, specifically with their Powerboost models, and why that might be such a major issue.
I’m sorry but I doubt it got 36 mpg, I thought when I was doing some research ford said it would only get 23 or 24. My ecoboost says it gets 21 highway and in 11 years, twice have I ever got 21 - once on a long trip and once over about 75 miles trip. I typically get 15 mpg. And when pulling 3,500 lbs. I get 10 if I’m lucky. Once fighting the wind I was getting less then 7, so I doubt this would get 21 when pulling 8,000 lbs!
You are being totally honest on your mpg comment. I’ve owned 4 eco boost fords and my current 2023 averages 14-16 in town and 16-19 on the highway at 70-75 mph. Towing I get 8-10 mpg depending on wind and mountain travel with a 25’ 7500 pound travel trailer.
Scotty is great. But one of his initial comments was about back seat area. We bought the F150 crew cab because it had the biggest back seat area and needed that for a move from Alaska to Nevada, which also served as a break-in period for the truck. Anyway, we were able to stack 2 very large trunks in the back (plus more) with the seats folded up, and we had tried both GM and Chrysler trucks that could not get them in. This was one of the many reasons we went with the F150. Side note - we would like to buy one of these hybrids today, but Ford not taking orders. I wonder why scotty doesnt give sticker prices on new vehicles tested? Thats ok , I guess - I appreciate his content very much.
I towed a U-haul transporter which weighs a ton carrying a Model A which had a 283 and 4 speed. I towed from LA to Bakersfield and back which involved going over the Ridge Route. I got 18 mpg without the overdrive doing 55 mph.
I’ll wait a couple of years. Make sure it doesn’t break. I like my 2013 ancient push rod 5.3 🤣
We like our ancient non-computer controlled trucks too. Our 1 84 S10 even has its original oil pump that has the correct oil pressure that a rebuild kits oil pump did not as it was way too high @80 psi at all engine speeds.269,000 miles I think I remember seeing on the odometer & still has original crankshaft & rods & intake valves that were of course reground when we rebuilt engine with new pistons / rings .030 over.
These hybrids are a great alternative to EVs. As it stands right now an EV can’t match real world highway range of a hybrid system. Especially when you factor in accessories, towing and payload, but can and probably will change.
Its $100,000.
@@Perich29 😮😮😮
@@Perich29 I saw an xl as low as 35,000
@@bobbyjeff32 that's for the gasoline F150 we're talking about the hybrid.
Shame they haven't pushed for a coyote powered hybrid. Maybe there's an issue there with space or something that makes it prohibitive, which is understandable, it's just, for me, the only way I'd buy a hybrid F150. Barring that, I'll stick to my current coyote powered truck I guess.
Nice to know,great video. My '98 F150 4 x 4, gets 11 mpg around town in 2WD.
I bought a brand new 2015 Cmax hybrid and I have been very happy with it. 38 mpg average; best of both worlds indeed!
I’ve got a 21 with the 3.5 Ecoboost, and absolutely love it. Ford really stepped up their game with the new models. Especially with the interiors.
They're sharp. To me, they're the best looking Ford since the 92-97 F150s.
@@darthdarthbinkss The 03-04 Lightning is my favorite body style, but these are looking good. The interior seems like they made it a point to improve on that.
You wont get 21 mpg towing 8,000 lbs. My 3.5 eco with the 10 speed got 7.9 towing 9,000 lbs on the highway.
@@stevensimpson1043 I haven't been inside a '21 or '22 yet, but my grandma has a '20 and I can definitely believe that this new generation would have better interiors than the '15-'20, lol.
@@thegangster3786 I think he means he has a 2021 Ford F150
I just bought one. The Power is insane....This truck flat out moves. The amount of Tech in this truck blew me away. I came from a 2017 Silverado LTZ 5.3 and this truck flat out performs every aspect of the Silverado. The Fuel Mileage I am told takes a little while to build up through the break in process, but even with that, I am above the Silverado. My only knock is the Stereo. I got the B&O Unleashed, and compared to the Bose system in the Silverado, it isn't even fair. But it is still better than the average Stereo.
It either goes fast OR gets great mileage. Mine got sick MPG's (28+ avg for the first 6,000 miles) right off the lot. Overall average has dipped with towing and real-world application, but I'm still north of 24. But, yeah, it can giddyup.
@@roncreech7 4000k miles and I sit around 23-24mpg......I will take it.
Given a choice, hybrid makes more sense to me than full electric also. I’ve driven a RAV4 hybrid recently while my truck was in the shop. It’s pretty neat. Like he said, though we have them, we’re not 100% ready yet.
Lately, if not always, Ford has the pedal to the metal with its trucks. New Ranger Raptor coming and such which to me looks better than the previous model Ranger.
I think if I had to get a new pickup, I’m seriously starting to think it’d likely be a F150 than a new Tundra, unless it’s a 2021 or older Tundra. I still prefer a V8. At least until they work out the issues with the new Tundra. Then still, I may go used as the new vehicle prices are ridiculous unless I can find a low to mixed level trim with decent standard equipment and options.
Currently drive a 2WD 2017 Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport. Only major issue I had was the timing cover seal leaking. Had that fixed (out of warranty). Truck has just over 90k miles and runs great.
Mine is coming July 12 - 18th I drive Hydrid buses thousands of miles per month and they are absolutely terrific... Torque is so good I once lit the tires on an 18 ton bus at our overhaul facility.
Great video! So I noticed the 2022 hybrid has an option for a 36 gallon fuel tank. Can that option get you over 800 miles of range or does the extra weight via fuel limit that? I appreciate your education!
21 mpg towing 8000 lbs. And 36 mpg on the highway unloaded? ABSOLUTELY NO WAY!!!!!!! C'mon Scotty
Might be pulling a trailer rated to haul 8000 but was empty. Even then thats a double axle trailer weighing around 2500 for a flatbed. You have some rolling resistance still there. Maybe while drafting a semi. :^)
Now thats the best Review so far
Scotty always keeps it real