I'm just gonna go ahead assume most of your audience is are 18-30 males. Don't fuckin' tell us to go and talk to little kids and ask 'em where their parents are. All of us are going to be in jail before your next upload.
Never underestimate a toddler's ability to vanish. I swear to God a two-year-old is the best functioning proof of quantum theory, you have no idea where they are until you find them, and it is usually not where they should be or where you are expecting them to be.
Yesterday I answered my husband and when I turned around my 2yr old who was standing next to me 30 sec ago... was suddenly across the room standing on the dining table... I mean how? 2 Yr olds are the slowest and the fastest creatures on the planet...
My dad followed this and passed the advice to me “when kids are loud or screaming that’s normal, it’s when they’re dead silent that you should start to worry.”
Similar to this: A contractor I did work for kept sending me to the same house to diagnose the leak from the kitchen ceiling. Up above it was there 4-5 year old sons room. After opening the ceiling and the wall where the shower valve was there was nothing leaking. That's when I noticed the water damage on both sides of the vanity while watching also watching the 3 kids run amok thru this mcmansion as cleaning ladies followed behind them. Diagnosis was dont negelect a child with a full bathroom. The contractor said to me "You really think he caused all this damage?" I said "I have my own 4 year old redheaded boy and you sign a waiver saying I'm not responsible for the damages we can let him loose in your house. I guarantee he will somehow open your safe and present to you the shattered remains of your most treasured possessions and look at you waiting for praise."
As a dad of 3 beautiful girls 15-5 I can vouch that kids can flat out disappear like batman into rooftop shadows in the blink of an eye and its absolutely terrifying every single time.
I'm eternally thankful I have a clingy dog. When I baby sit a friend's toddler my dog will follow him everywhere because she's a rottweiler and they're both a livestock guardian breed and a Shepard breed so she both wants to protect kids and herd everywhere together. The kid would sometimes wander into brush or hide in my raspberries and my dog would just stand next the plants and stare at where he was so if I couldn't see him I just needed to look for her to know where he's at. When I took him for a walk I just tied the dog to him because then he couldn't wander off since even a grown man can't force a rottweiler to budge, she's like a fuzzy little brick wall.
I once got lost in Mammoth Cave National Park for a whole day and night. It was... unpleasant. You don't know the meaning of "pitch black" until you're out in the woods alone with no supplies in the middle of the night.
@RoanokeTales Thanks. It was definitely an experience, I'll say that. One that I never want an encore of. 😅 It was only sheer, dumb luck that I made it out relatively unharmed, thanks to (literally) stumbling into a deer blind that night where I found some candy and other little snacks. I spent the night there curled up in as tight a ball as I could because it was cold af at the time (early spring and nights hadn't gotten around to warming up at that point). The next day, I somehow managed to wander clear out of the park and into a logging camp, where I learned I was some 15 odd miles away from where'd started. How a literal toddler managed anything even remotely similar is beyond me. Hell, I'm not an easy person to scare, like at all. I've only ever screamed 3 times in my life, and the other 2 were from extreme pain- first when I almost paralyzed myself falling out of a tree as a teenager and the last when my daughter was born (emergency c-section since she was a footling breech baby and it was a completely asymptomatic pregnancy that I'd previously had no knowledge of lol also not an experience I recommend, especially since I was somehow semi-conscious for the operation and actually _felt_ them moving my organs around and _knew_ that's what was happening, but completely unable to do or say anything about it). But yeah... that whole "can't see your hand in front of your face" thing? Definitely real. And I have excellent night vision for a human, always have. Experiencing total blindness like that for the first time... yikes.
@@asherikamichaela8425 wua, that sounds scary as hell! I can't imagine it. But yeah, even our german forests (which are to 97% used for logging) are creepy at night. Last year in october I was hiking (or rather just walking) like 40 Kilometer from nuremberg in a really rural region and it got dark and I had no light because my cellphone battery was diying and I just used it every 50 Meter to confirm my trail. I just followed the slightly brighter stones on the path and was scared of boars (those are the most dangerous animals you can find in south germany since wolfes are rather rar and tend to hide or flee... I was so reliefed when I reached the next village. So if that was creepy I don't want to imagine the terror of getting lost in US national parcs. Those are a whole different league!
@@lizzymueller3604 Glad you had a phone! Even though it was low on battery, at least it was something that helped you get out of there. 🤗 Happy you made it out. Can't compare your forests with ours since I've never been there. A lot of my family is actually from Germany, funnily enough. Mostly my bio father's side.
I went to school with Sammy, we had the same first grade teacher and he went missing when we were in second grade. I distinctly remember how the school had to try and inform us on why he wasn't at school. Parents came in to better explain, and for awhile everyone hung on to that hope he'd be found. After a month it was just hope his body would be found, I didn't fully understand it back then but I knew he wasn't coming back. Sammy was a really happy go lucky kid, always laughing or smiling.
Parents came in to better explain? One if your in a school your old enough to know better. Two its expected you know better. Three odds are more he left campus if not built like a prison or wandered into a heavily low traffic area/building/facility.
I seem to remember that there was some sort of of error in reporting for that one and that the father actually was present with the group when his son disappeared.
Having been a nanny and now having a child of my own, I’ve always found people who judge parents who keep their kids on a leash to be really ignorant. Like tell me you’ve never had to take care of a kid without telling me you’ve never had to take care of a kid. Once they learn how to crawl, they’re gone, never mind once they know how to walk. In my opinion, better to look kind of silly and maybe incur some judgement from others than to have a dead kid because they ran into traffic before you could stop them.
Besides, it’s worn with a safety harness. It’s not like you have them around the throat. Just look around at all the made up crap people complain about all day long just to play the victim card. People are behaving as if they want to be miserable and can’t seem to be happy about anything anymore. Guaranteed those who complain about parents who use child leashes are the very same ones who smack their kids around and call it “discipline.”
I had two kids and I still judged parents who used them. It's my third that completely changed my mind. I clearly was able to make my other two kids listen and stay with me, don't leave the side of the car etc but my third made me have the realisation that all kids are different when it comes to listening and I just got lucky with my first two.
Am a child who had a backpack leash whenever my parents and I would go somewhere like a city or mall. Can confirm, it most definitely saved my dumbass 2-4 year old life from running into the street and getting got by a car. Don't feel bad leashing kids. They are constantly trying to commit sewer side, I swear. Also, have ADHD, and as a kid it was impossible to just "sit and enjoy cartoons".
My mother is terrible at remaining calm when something terrible happens. Nine years old, got lost in Walmart. My aunt found me, and told me I should’ve stayed hidden. Mom found, eyes bloodshot, screaming at me for getting lost. Took a while to calm down and apologize. Bless her heart 😂
This video reminds me of the two maps I've seen on Reddit that compares known cave systems and the cases of missing people. The maps were incredibly similar.
@@danielmontoya6664 Funny thing about common sense is it isn't that common. That joke aside, a lot of people just wander and don't realize they're shifting direction.
@@Kevin7557 yeah, I heard it's because every human has one leg that's slightly shorter (even just a few millimeters) and that one is used with more weight. That leads to a circle line in the long run if you don't use a distant object to focus on.
That last little boy, Jaryd, is the saddest, to me anyway. The dad didn't want to let the kids go and should've trusted his gut. I wouldn't be surprised if the other kid suffers from horrendous guilt and depression over not being able to protect her little brother.
Literally just yesterday in a residential area, two girls asked if we'd seen a boy because they'd lost their friend. They found him literally two minutes later, but all seemed around ten. Definitely had me on alert
A few years back, while I was still a complete city boy, I more or less found myself needing to walk 20 miles through wooded mountains to get to a wedding. No cell phone reception, no one knew I was doing it. I'm from Michigan, and had never been to Colorado (where the wedding was). I brought only a few beers and some bread as supplies. Walked in jeans and a dress shirt, dress shoes in bag. I walked the last few miles in complete darkness as my cell ran out of battery. I had only my memory of a map I briefly looked at to guide me. It had rained and hailed, I had 0 way to dry myself after both. Just kept hiking. I somehow made it on time to the wedding. Nowadays, after converting to country life, I see how fucking dumb I was to have done that. Like, incredibly dumb for having embarked on that venture. That I made it unharmed is a miracle. I've done plenty of stupid shit, but I now see that situation as #1.
That one's story definitely makes the parents look suspicious. Also it's easy to go overboard and throw blame on the parents since in a monstrously overwhelming number of cases it's someone close to the kid who is the perpetrator
You have to remember unless you know for certain they're guilty you could be heaping a huge pile of s*** on top of the worst thing that ever happened to these people. kicking a man while he's down
If you want to hear a psychics view on some of it then check out My Life My Psychic Wife. I think that's the channel title. It's interesting some of it
@@magicpyroninjaYou're absolutely right. I have heard the full story of the parents of DeOrr, and I still don't think the parents had anything to do with it because of the way it totally destroyed them. There were clips of them at their home after he had been missing a little while and they were being harassed by people accusing them of being murderers, and the ooor mom just had a meltdown of epic proportions and it didn't seem staged. The sheriff in their town accused them mercilessly too borderline on harassment. Those poor people have been through a lot. And the grandfather who they thought was watching little DeOrr dealt with a lot of grief himself being blamed for his grandson's disappearance.
I used to think horrible things of parents who kept their kids on leashes too, till I became a parent and my 2 year old broke free from our grasp in a parking lot and got hit by a car. She was incredibly lucky, no broken bones, but we put her on a leash after that until she was older. She still remains an incredibly accident prone child, including when she was 5 and got bit by a rabid bat.
Honestly, sometimes it's just best for kids who might have a tendency to be active and run on impulse. It might look strange from an outside perspective, but not all parents who use child leashes do it out of laziness or neglect. Sometimes it's just another necessary precaution to ensure their child won't evade supervision and get themselves into trouble.
I ran away nonstop when I was little. I expecially enjoyed hiding from her.... I was put on a leash haha which was honestly for the best. Every moment I was free I was gone.
Honestly if I was a parent or in care of a small child, which I wouldn't be but for hypothetical sakes, I would risk the weird looks and judgement of other people for the safety of the child and leash them up, especially those that, like myself from the moment I could walk I was a child I was always off, uncontained haha, it's safer for both you and them tbh, cause kids are also like puppies, they will either play "submissive/dead" and seem like they've given up on their attempt at escape and as soon as you loosen up your grip they are gone, or they see something that catches their interest they won't think to tell you they are just going to look over at it like five feet away and then they wander off further 💀
People who have never been around kids don’t know how easy it is to lose track of a toddler. When my baby sisters were younger I kept my eye on them 24/7. But you eventually need to stop for 10 seconds to look at some food in the aisle or pay the cashier and bam they’re on the other side of the shop. Most parents try their absolute best and their biggest fear is losing their kids. I can’t imagine the guilt you’d feel if your kid goes missing because you had to take your eyes off them for a split second.
Nah kids are just brats an dont listen and this is the price they pay. Oh well better for the rest of the population thin the heard of the dumb an weak.
Tbf, a lot of people are like "I only took my eyes off of them for 10 seconds" or "oh, I was only gone for 5 minutes" when it reality it was more like 30+ minutes. I used to see it all the time during summer with assholes who left their dog in the car while they just "quickly" run in. Not that I'm saying kids, especially toddlers, aren't chaos incarnate, and can't uncannily teleport around like Jason Voorhees, but a lot of the time, the caregiver wasn't paying as much attention as they thought they were.
26:50 I'm SO happy you brought up that the fishermen could see the Christian group! Many people who cover this story leave out that detail & they &/or their audience proceed to call the fishermen stupid & blame them for the kid disappearing.
When my youngest nephew was a toddler, my sister and I had a small get together with some friends. We purposely huddled in a circle with nephew in the middle so we could keep an eye on him because he would get into anything and everything. I specifically remember looking away from him for a few seconds to look at one friend telling a story, and when I looked back down, nephew was gone. Looking around the room, he had managed to slip out of the huddle and climb halfway up a bookshelf on the other side of the room.
David Paulides has emphasized so many times the simple rules: 1) tell people where you're going 2) buy/use an electronic tracker on you WHEN/IN CASE you get lost so it will be easier for people to find you 3) bring a fire-arm if possible 4) travel/hike in pairs (case in point Julian sands) and 5) "try" NOT to go to Yosemite, which has the most disappearances..
@@BryanLChess So? You still don't know those people. And you never mentioned anything about woods or any other location in your original comment. Which makes it seem like now you're saying it's okay if they're with strangers as long as you know where they are.
@@ryanh9183 I guess some ppl just want to argue for attention. If you didn’t know what I meant then you’re either a child or a troll. It was obvious I was speaking about this type of situation. If you don’t know the difference between letting some strangers take your child into the woods and dropping them off at school then you’re not to bright.
It's always better to be yelled at for being nosy than to see the lost kid you let walk away on the news later. If you have a woman with you, definitely have them talk to the kid instead of a man. It's less creepy, and kids respond better to strange women vs strange men.
I saw something about the Deorr case in a documentary awhile back and I'm convinced the great-grandfather and his friend either know what happened or did it themselves. I don't remember if the friend was interviewed but they great-grandfather was and just seemed so unconcerned and unemotional about the whole thing. I get not every family is super close but it stuck with me as being incredibly callous.
G Gpa Walton had the onset of dementia and was in very bad health, which is why Jessica was his paid caregiver in the first place. He was cleared by Law Enforcement and passed away shortly after. Isaac, the friend, is a little "slow" with developmental issues... which is why he is awkward with a flat affect. I believe they brought him along on the camping trip because he's a convenient scapegoat. He passed his polygraph and was also cleared by Law Enforcement. Do you know who didn't "conclusively" pass their multiple polygraphs??! Jessica and Vernal.
There’s a case were mom, daughter and daughters friend were all found dead. The husband back home was a suspect because he was cold n callous. Only problem was he was hundreds of miles away with a SOLID alibi. I had an uncle by marriage that couldn’t give a 💩 about anyone 🥶
I am disappointed by David Paulides bringing this Deorr case as a 411 case. There are too many indications that this is a murder by a family member. Paulides is mentioning this case again in his latest movie which he should not have because of that..Paulides should know better than to consider this case as a solid 411..b
@@LittleBlueOwl318I put zero stock in polygraph results. Their child is gone of course theyre gonna be highly emotionally on those questions which leads to false positives. The lack of evidence of the child being there and the PI thinking the parents were hiding something are the more relevant information
Paradoxical undressing seems to have a valid explanation now! Pretty much because of hypothermia your body retains all the blood in the central system i.e. heart, lungs, kidney, etc. As severe hypothermia gets worse mass vasodialtion occurs and since the blood is warm in the central system, the sudden rush of warm blood to your peripheral system actually makes it feel burning hot as all the warm blood was shunted away for an extended period. Also at that point you're most likely altered anyway so logic is thrown out the window
The first story, my guess is a dog picked up the kid and carried him away. Toddlers often confuse dogs and cats. Would make sense if a dog dragged him through the brush.
When my youngest niece was a toddler, there were two animals in the world, dogs and squirrels. Everything was either a dog (dogs) or a squirrel (everything else). When we went to a ren fair there were many squirrels (horses) and the largest squirrel in the world(elephant).
Surely there would be bite marks on either the kid or his coat then. Would a dog just pick up a kid and trot off with them but also be mindful not to bite too hard? I know that they can but it seems that a dog being so gentle wouldn't be inclined to just grab a baby and take it away.
I occasionally babysit kids in my neighbourhood as well as friends of my little sister. Behind my house and around the area is just open fields with massive trees and a big lake. I will never let any kids I look after go out to play anywhere, even when I’m watching, other than their backyard because of cases like these. There’s not really any dangerous animals in the fields, but they’re massive and it’s easy to get lost or even just injure yourself. Anywhere like that has massive risks and I’m not willing to take them😬
bless you for actually caring for the kids yoi watch, too many babysitters have no idea what precious charges they are entrusted with.. (that includes grandparents, recently over here grandparents let their own dog bite the baby they were looking after, and they were all 'oops'. )
I just wanna say I relate hard to the guy you met at that party, I often go through moments where I want to run away and go missing just to escape life and myself for a bit, I hope that guy you met is okay wherever he is now.
I remember a quote from grandma when it came to child leashes. “Toddlers are like tortoises, you look away for a moment and now they’re nearly across the street from the front porch.” Small children are a lot faster than we think.
i always get somewhat unnerved when i remember a story my mother told me where i had walked off from daycare at 5 years old, and was later found near the city center by a local mom that recognised me and brought me back. It all ended well but i can't help but wonder.. What if she hadn't found me? What if i just kept walking? What if someone dangerous had found me? At least since it was the city a camera might have spotted me, but what if it hadn't been the city. Shit's scary man
what if someone did grab you and you just don;t remember? a friend of mine has a weekend where he went missing and he has no clue where he went or what happened, but recently more and more people speak ut about how abusers snatch them from under the noses of their parents and thet were never believed on account of just being children and adults not wanting to deal with the trauma and the guilt.
Had to do the same thing at an indoor water park. Little girl look scared and around 3-4. I watched her wander and look around, then she tried to leave out the doors to the main lobby behind a random person who opened the heavy door. Alerted water park staff and her family lost her and were looking on the complete opposite side.
I found/came across a little boy at the zoo. He had to be part of group because he had a specific colored shirt with some school slogan on it, and I had seen older kids with different colored shirts earlier. I had a random passerby go get a staff member because I didn't want to try and lead him anywhere and someone get the wrong idea. We looked penguins and eventually a teacher or aide came and got him, all was well. But I really didn't know what to do as I had never encountered that type of situation before. Anyway, thanks for attending my Ted Talk.
If I ever go missing and end up on missing 411 somehow, just know I’m probably screaming mommy in a tree like a little girl while getting bit by squirrels
I've been watching your gaming channel on and off for years now and literally just found this channel today. Very glad I did I love missing 411 and other mysterious stuff like this. Great content I love your work! Thank you for your hard work on all your channels! You rock bro!
I love your bit about the national park service. Sounds like the SCP foundation. Keeping deadly things secret because it's more dangerous for it to be public and just accepting the small amount of disappearances and deaths.
Jared's case is the kind of stuff that keeps me up at night. It's what was found of him that really gets me, just specifically part of his skull and one tooth. One single tooth. No foot bones in his shoes or anything. I just...don't see how that's possible if it was an animal attack.
That's normal for animal attacks or whenever something or someone expires in the open. You'd be surprised just how far and wide the weather and scavengers can spread remains. It's legitimately why it's so commonly believed that our ancestors lived in caves all the time, just because it's so much easier to find more complete remains because they're protected. It's also why it's so rare to find complete fossils of prehistoric animals too.
@@aardwolf6668 this! Body yards have to have cages around the cadavers, so that birds of prey don’t carry pieces off. Sometimes they do leave them outside of the cages to investigate the activity. There are videos (NSFW) documenting body yards and what exactly happens to bodies left to the elements.
Was hiking in a national park off trail came across an elk carcass, a mt lion kill, the body was skeletonized but dry skin clung to the skull, when I got close two young squirrels came running out of the eye sockets. I've watched chipmunks drag away dead birds, antlers get gnawed by deer, rabbits, squirrels etc. Lots of critters of all sizes partake of a body. Scattered remains are the norm. I've never come across anything like a complete skeleton. Teeth get loose as the skull dries out and either fall out or get carried away by animals or weather...or a random human that doesn't realize they've come across a missing person.
It is just astounding how fast small children are. When they are in pushchairs and you're in the process of unstrapping them - they are like coiled springs and ready to run before you're ready to grab their hand. My son gave me a heck of a fright one day, the instant the pushchair strap unclipped he burst out free and onto his feet, ran across a busy road, right in front of a lorry, and was caught by an old man on the opposite side. I nearly died of shock, will never forget it - and learned never to trust him until he was old enough to cross a road safely on his own.
I got lost in the hualapai mountains in Kingman Arizona. I was heading back to my car which was about a 1.5 mile hike, it started to rain so I started to book it because I had all my camera equipment with me......I ran for about 10 minutes " and I can run really fast" and after a while the trail didn't look the same and I didn't recognize things I surely would have remembered seeing on my way there. Ended up calling 911 and they sent out search and rescue. I ended up running past the turn off I was supposed to take, and out in that area there is MANY trails, some marked and some unmarked. When they found me I was only about a quarter a mile away from my car. I felt like such an idiot because I was so close. Deputy told me not to feel like an idiot because I did the RIGHT thing! I stayed put, called for help and didn't move. He told me a lot of people " in my position" just keep searching for their car or the right trail and up moving further away from the initial area they were at and makes it even more difficult to find them. Very grateful for their assistance 🙏
Yeah, I can’t remember where I heard the story, but 2 guys went on a road trip before starting school (I think grad school), and both were experienced campers. For some reason, they also got turned around and one ended up dying while the other was close to death when search and rescue finally found them. They too were very close to their car - maybe less than a day’s hike away - but they kept wandering off farther away from the trail to the point that ppl had so much trouble finding them after they didn’t come home the day they were supposed to. Super sad story and I completely agree with the police in that you did the right thing!
I think you might enjoy the mysterious disappearance, and theories surrounding, the disappearance of 3 Lighthouse Keepers on Flannan Island in 1900. It's extremely peculiar the more and more you learn about the entire situation.
Ah, yes! That's a weird one. The idea of all three being the victim of a singular accident just doesn't fit with me. It's that coat. It was a downpour in December. No one would willingly exit the lighthouse in that weather without grabbing their coat.
@@lizc6393 That's not how I understood it. The whole reason two of them went out to get the supplies was because things were getting rough out there. It was December, so it was pretty cold out. Coats would be a given. So, something prompts the remaining man to leave the lighthouse. There was always one in the lighthouse. What was it? What did he see or hear that was so urgent he didn't even grab his coat?
Okay so I've got Asperger's Syndrome and when I was about 3 or 4 my family went to visit relatives in Texas. I was small enough to walk but had very little awareness. I remember trying to find my dad but was unable to do so, even though he was just in the backyard. So I decided to start looking for him. I left the house, went to doors that I thought were my cousin's to knock, and just continued on. I have vague memories of searching but I remember being picked up by the cops and fucking terrified since Cops was a well known TV show at the time. They took me to a children's shelter and eventually, miraculously, my father showed up. He says he was asked loaded questions like "how long have you been beating your kid" and such and was initially denied from seeing me. But when I finally saw him I ran over to him and said "Dad! You got lost and I found you.". Getting lost is apparently a documented thing for Aspies.
@@nickdavis5420 My partner who is on the autism spectrum has the same thing. He will invariably wander off in a shopping mall and I'll often have to involve security to find him. Get him in some woods and he's suddenly a park ranger with direction finding super powers.
Living in oregon and going camping a few times a year I can attest that it is quite easy to get lost in the woods. I have had a few times where I almost got lost but I have a habit of marking the trees with rocks or something else
Cool thing about the first story, idk if this has been mentioned, but what's his name that does Survivorman, tried to cover the same distance that kid did in the same time frame going through fences. Iirc, he barely finished the distance in the same timeframe and said for a toddler to do so was impossible without help. That makes the story creepier imo
I've heard that the guy that wrote a book about a lot of the missing people got mad at Mr. Ballen for talking about the missing people. You can't make money off of people's tragedies then get mad because someone else is as well and Mr. Ballen was always really respectful when talking about the events.
My best friends youngest brother disappeared one day, in the house. After over an hour of looking, he came out of a kitchen cupboard saying "I'm here!" This was hard to watch as a father. Always have eyes on the little ones, they are extremely "I want/don't want," and will take off. Stay safe
This is why no one ever took my babies anywhere without me if I didn’t know them really, really well and trust them with my life (my children are my life). The person who should’ve been held ultimately responsible is whomever specifically asked the dad if they could take the kids. Also, you DO NOT tell someone you’re taking their kids to one place only to then take them somewhere else. Those people are irresponsible morons.
The only person i dont worry about having my kids without me is my brother. I dont even like when theyre with my parents lol! My brother isnt even particularly responsible or anything. Never had kids himself either. Maybe thats actually a plus. Hes extra aware cuz hes not complacent like most parents. I just know if something does go bad he knows what to do, and he would die for them with zero hesitation.
I've been in situations where I'd be completely lost without a GPS (magnetic rocks messing with the compass) It's chilling how quick it could go badly, all it would take is a trip or fall.
The moment you realize youre truly in big trouble is terrifying lol! In any scenario. Ive been thinking about that a lot since my mom recently caught herself on fire. Imagine your clothes catching fire, the moment you realize youre not gonna be able to put it out yourself.
Most Helicopters are designed to slowly descend when their engines die mid air the bladed still spin although at a slower rate which causes it to slowdown its rate of descent. Unless if the blades get caught in power lines or low visibility causing the helicopter to crash full speed into tall obstacles then it is surprisingly survivable.
The other difficulty is that without a sighting device ,people are prone to lose the trail because of dominant side. Right handed will veer to the right,etc. and because it's subtle people don't notice. As an experienced woodsman, my advice is to tell somebody where you're going and when you're coming back and if you do get lost, hug and tree. That is to say stay in one place. Unfortunately, with a toddler all bets are off.
@RoanokeTales I hope you see this comment. I rewatch these and the RG channel episodes more than I can count and I enjoy them more every time. Dang solid work
In the Keith Parkinks case, the distance he traveled in the amount of time he did, at night, was tested by Les Stroud, tv show "Survivor Man." He's a highly experienced mountain man, and he was unable to cover the distance (12mi.) in that amount of time (19hrs.). The distance was 12 miles, but that's straight as the crow flies. Walking 12 miles in semi-rugged terrain and zig zagging around makes it a lot longer. So bizarre.
@@Ejcb76 Possibly. I forgot how old he was but I assume 2 yrs old. That's a lot of weight to fly with. Maybe a condor. From what I found, condors weigh at most 33 lbs. To also carry that weight. Maybe but doubtful.
birds of prey, a toddler is no bigge rthan a lamb and sometimes owls make mistakes, ne attacked my dad in the woods once while he was walking our dog.. guess from the top my dad looked like a lamb, with his white curly hair.. 🤣
The disappearances remind me of a story I heard about girl who was in the city with her friends and she somehow disappeared nearly instantly. Apparently, she was walking ahead of her friends, and turned a corner. By the time her friends turned the same corner she was just gone. That's all I ever heard of the story, and I don't remember if I was told any names, but it's crazy to think that as advanced as we are, people can still just disappear
My toddler vanished within 3 seconds. I turned to go in camper, he was right behind me. Turned… he was gone. I have never been more afraid, and stressed. We did find him behind our camp sight in blueberry bushes. He was so small we couldn’t see him. I never have had a worst headache after. Worst day of my life. Worst!
When I was 2, my mom was hanging laundry when I wandered into a cornfield in our backyard. I somehow walked 4 tenths of a mile, in the corn, crossed a 2 lane road and walked to my grandparents farm. Mom drove down to the farm hysterical and they found me walking into the barn to see my Pop Pop. Kids can do crazy things
I've been in the woods on and off again most of my life. I always follow these 3 rules, and it'll keep you safe for the most part. 1. Gun at the ready, ALWAYS. You never know what is around the next bend. It could be a delicious dinner or a startled predator. Don't have a gun? use a flare launcher, it'll spook most anything in the woods, bonus it starts fires pretty well too. 2. Never break camp after dark. It's too easy to get lost and turned around, better to stay put and wait for daylight. 3. No matter what you hear, everything is okay. There's a lot of weird noises in the woods at night, it's usually coyotes or small mammals making day to day noises but if you've never heard them before it can freak you the hell out. Better to be levelheaded and have your wits about you.
I work on a piece of property deep in the mountains, just had to stop one of the dogs from munching down on bear scat earlier today. If I'm off the main lil dirt road going through the property I'm always armed with a rifle, bear mace, and an air-horn. Even when it seems silly. I usually have 2 half wolf half pitbull dogs following me around as well. I ran out to check on a motion sensor trigger wearing flip-flops one time and almost stepped on a rattle snake, I usually wear 8" Carolina Loggers, figured it was wind and I was in the middle of eating so I just wanted to go look real quick and bolt back. All it takes is one moment of inattention, one bad choice where you lose vigilance. Every so often you need a reminder of that so I watch spooky stuff like this. The woods are dangerous, cities are tailor made for people to safely inhabit, an RV or tent in the mountains is like a fishbowl housing a goldfish submerged in the middle of a shark tank. If somethings hungry enough or dedicated enough to getting you, it's gonna get you unless you have some means of stopping it. Arm your goldfish with stuff that can at the very least give a shark the worst day of its life, is what I'm sayin'.
This is my first time coming across your channel and usually I watch like spooky videos like these you know everyone talks in this creepy tone or like very wary or I don't know how to explain it but you're just like homeboy just straight up disappeared and i freaking love it!!!!
I actually have a story similar to these situations when I was 4 years old (I'm 24 now) my family and I were camping out in the Utah desert area or Nevada (unfortunately I don't remember a lot and my mom when she was asked about the situation says it was a long time ago) anyway we were riding four wheelers and like a dumb kid I ran after one getting pretty lost I remember trying to walk back but not remembering where to go then seeing a dust devil spin and I blacked out. When I came back to I had walked back to my camp not remembering anything in-between but apartently I was only gone for 10 minutes but I remember much longer in all it was a weird situation.
It's always pretty obvious that the people that attack the parents when a child goes missing probably don't have that much experience with kids and expect a robot like vigilance from the parents. If you watch anyone for any length of time you will see a dozen instances where they avoid disaster by sheer coincidence. People aren't perfect and routine circumstances breeds complacency, it's just human nature. Unless you are sure they were responsible for the child's disappearance adding that accusation to their grief is pretty low
Perhaps so...but the parents mistaking what he was wearing at the time? The coat they claimed he was wearing when he disappeared was found at their home after eviction. So all four of them would have to have been mistaken. That's bizarre.
1:08 I’m not a survival expert but I’d say do not pick a direction unless it’s to get to a large mass that you can see So following the sun rise could be useful, or if you see a mountain But in most scenarios, try to stay within 30 feet of where you were first lost, and if you hear someone nearby announce your presence, if you are not found for 2 days expand your stationary area until you have clean water Finally, don’t get overconfident, you’re a human, not a grizzly bear
Les shroud tried to retrace the same path that 2 year old took. He had to call it off said it was to dangerous. He had no idea how that child could do what he did. Apparently, lots of people have a hard time believing it.
I used to judge parents that kept their kids on leashes but after all the crazy stories I've heard I will probably be doing that for my future children.
I have an autistic 6 year old who would absolutely take off running in the forest and never think to turn back or return when his name is called. That 2nd story is my worst nightmare.
The 2 year old wandering off doesn't surprise me. People don't give little kids enough credit, with how intelligent they truly are. While their mind hasn't developed enough to lie yet, or even form proper memories. There is clearly enough there for survivability purposes that we have long forgotten. The only reason I can relate to this story is the fact that when I was 2 years old and in diapers, my mother left the flat front door open, to which I escaped out of it. By the time they had realised what had happened and freaked out, they came across me causally in nothing but the diapers I had on, I was at my nans flat some distance up the road. I'm trying to hit the buzzer to get inside. Luckily, I was too short to reach. I, of course, have zero memory of this, but after singling out each family member involved without them getting together to make things up, they all shared their experience from their perspective, and it all lined up. There is clearly more to infants than we realise, I mean think about it. Horses, zebra, cows, etc. are born and stand up ASAP, which increases their odds of survival. The first year babies are pratically useless and require their parents to survive, but once they hit 2, they are really independent, always learning new things and getting up to a lot of mischievous things. Honestly, kids need to be watched all the damn time. Just a second to slip away is all it takes. I was lucky my nan lives 10 minutes up the road and in-between my auntie lived. So there was family out and around ASAP. I am a little surprised I was never kidnapped in at least the 10-minute window it took to realise and raise the alarm. Considering the area and how many flats are around that could suck me in to never be seen again.
i remember going to a fair with a couple friends and some of their other friends, one woman brought her young child, i think around 4 years old, and by the time she walked from her car to us the child had disappeared, we didn’t even know she’d brought the child until she started freaking out about her not being by her side anymore, she was found on the other side of the fair fairly quickly but i can’t imagine how scary it would be for your child to just suddenly disappear when you’ve only walked a few metres from your car
kids have an uncanny ability to just disappear, you can just turn your head away for one second then back and they are gone. So annoying in big department stores. lie detector tests are unreliable. And as a parent, i would NEVER stop searching.
Never overestimate your own ability especially in the forest away from civilization. For those that have been in the wood just a few metres away from the track can get you into trouble even for the most experience one
I encountered the going in a circle when I was in middle school and determined to make a straight path in the woods. My solution is to constantly try to turn left just slightly. Your line may end up slightly left, but it's a lot better than a circle. Also, pick a tree straight in the distance, and use that as a marker to go to. Continue to do this until you reach your destination.
I got lost in a small mountain hike once. We got to a road just in time as the sun had set. That was a scarry experience. We ended up being 7 miles away from our car. Could have been a bad outcome if not for the size and being a populated area.
So for the first kid I have two theories. First one is if his testimony could be believed and it was a cat. Assuming this was the case then my guess is that he wasn’t hunted by a large cat, but rather mistaken for a cub. Picked up and carried, possibly dragged through rocks, barbed wire, etc. got free for a bit where the footprints were found, picked up again and carried by his coat until he fell out of it, at which point the large cat realized he wasn’t a lost cub and left him behind because the search party was closing in. The other possibility that I see is that it may have been an eagle or other large raptor attack. This would explain the lack of footprints leading away from the barn, as well as the scratches, but it’s a bit hard to believe that such an attack wouldn’t be fatal.
Thirty eight years in law enforcement with most spent as the K-9 sergeant I dealt with Human Cadaver Recovery. If the dogs weren’t finding a scent it means there’s no scent to be found. We never used just one dog or two dogs, we used several dogs and multiple teams. I was on a FEMA Task Force made up from law enforcement, fire service and SAR members. The dogs will find a scent if there’s one there. We could even use a boat and the dog would indicate over the spot where the body was in very deep water. I also noticed that people who did undress (paradoxically) were usually intoxicated on alcohol or narcotics. It’s not as common as what some skeptics like to say it is. I’m speaking from experience and I believe David Paulides has found some good points of reference in his search for the answers.
The woods are a crazy place. I grew up in Wv so im about as at home as you can be. Ive been around strangers pulling guns. Those escaped murders years ago. Got lost as a kid around lake Murray in SC once for a few hours. Thats a whole new kind of scared. Got almost dark to where canopy made it black. 3 of us at least but still remember it vividly.
When I was a kid I "went missing" in a store. I was with my mom and aunt and apparently I decided I wanted to play hide and seek. They closed the store and had people looking for me while I hid under a display table. My mom said I jumped out at them and tried to scare them. The way she described her feeling while I was gone for maybe less than an hour I can't imagine the feeling of never finding your kid again. I feel horrible for anyone that has had to deal with that.
You know easy it is for kids to disappear. If they don't want to be found or want to hide, you can't find them. Have you ever played a game of hide-and-seek with kids, they can hide so well that even after you said you're done playing they will still remain hidden.
I went thru a SERE school (US Navy Rescue Swimmer) in Brunswick Maine Deep into the forests and we were lost the entire time running from Armed Soldiers for two weeks... so I can confirm it's super easy to get lost even if your trained under stress lol. Good times though!!!
A while back, I was probably 10-13 or so, when I went to a beach and after swimming for probably a few hours give or take when I went to go back to my family I realized I had drifted down the beach a ways and had gotten turned around. Turns out I was about ~1/4 mile from where I thought I was. I walked up and down prolly 100 feet back and forth once I realized I was lost and then just sat down around where the wet and dry sand met. A few minutes later some people asked me if I was lost and pretty much right after that some of my relatives showed up. Another time I got lost at Legoland, must've been like 6-8 at the time. Crazy stuff happens sometimes
"There's something about this place.. Something I didn't tell you. It's.. Outside. People are coming and going all the time, it's madness!" - Delilah, Firewatch.
i work at the front door of my work. I'm not allowed to touch children in any way but I also can't just let a toddler run out the door into the street by themselves (and toddlers love to run for the door for some reason) so I've had to get creative, (I once had to tackle my younger sister as a toddler because she was about to run out into the street in front of a speeding car and I gave her a concussion. Which sucks but was better than getting flattened by a Ferrari). One tactic that works with slightly older kids is to ask is something like "Do your parents know you're over here all alone?" Though sometimes I'll get funny answers like "I'm here with my tío" (in which case I would just rephrase the question) or "Yeah, she can find me" which was immediately followed by his mom barreling around the corner like "I can't find my son!" But yeah, TLDR, it's better to stop and try to help than to do nothing.
My fav case ive heard is the film crew being in the woods and one of the crew just suddenly runs full sprint down a hill, off into the woods. Never said a word. They couldnt catch up with him, and no one ever saw him again. Imagining being there, it mustve been the creepiest thing ever. And as a man who doesnt like not having answers, id go nuts, as a witness to that, wondering wtf he mightve seen that made him do that.
Survivor-man (aka Les Straud) says to go the opposite direction of what ever side is your dominant side, whenever you encounter an obstacle you can't go over, like a tree. So, if you right side dominant and you encounter a tree on your path, your instinct will be to go to the right around it, however, Survivor-man says, go to the left around that tree. That should help you stay on the correct path for longer... hopefully. IDK, I usulay just follow Waze
Thank you for being you. Most times I listen to a video of yours, you give me a bright moment to my days (the sad parts of this one notwithstanding). Some have a hard time letting a personality through with just spoken word. You have no such trouble.
I believe it is possible if youre in a delirious or panic state. Especially as a child, Just because yes they are physically weaker compared to what can be out there. But they can hide in places we can’t even get half way in. I believe a child can be determined especially when they want to go home.
My daughter was a runner, no fear, thought everything was a game. My nieces and nephews were *not* . My sisters and cousins couldn't understand why I had to watch her like a hawk or keep confirming with the person that I had ask to watch her, *that they were still watching her* because she would just bolt. Until my cousin had her third child. Her first 2 were "perfect" and then she started coming to me for advice on how to control her 3rd. I said "I don't know" .....
I knew I recognized your voice lol I watch your videos on breaking down fictional creatures. But happy to be here as well. Nice to fall asleep to some creepy stories
25:02 Its sad when you just see his empty ruined clothes You just know that he didnt survive and wildlife Got to him Just by the state of his clothes thats sad
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Could you cover Skinwalker Ranch? That's a classic.
I have been watching your content a long time and love the work I would love to see more real horror stories
I have been watching your content a long time and love the work I would love to see more real horror stories
I have been watching your content a long time and love the work I would love to see more real horror stories
I'm just gonna go ahead assume most of your audience is are 18-30 males. Don't fuckin' tell us to go and talk to little kids and ask 'em where their parents are.
All of us are going to be in jail before your next upload.
Never underestimate a toddler's ability to vanish. I swear to God a two-year-old is the best functioning proof of quantum theory, you have no idea where they are until you find them, and it is usually not where they should be or where you are expecting them to be.
Similar to cats
Yesterday I answered my husband and when I turned around my 2yr old who was standing next to me 30 sec ago... was suddenly across the room standing on the dining table... I mean how? 2 Yr olds are the slowest and the fastest creatures on the planet...
My dad followed this and passed the advice to me “when kids are loud or screaming that’s normal, it’s when they’re dead silent that you should start to worry.”
@@TapynUrStepmom that is correct lol
Similar to this:
A contractor I did work for kept sending me to the same house to diagnose the leak from the kitchen ceiling. Up above it was there 4-5 year old sons room. After opening the ceiling and the wall where the shower valve was there was nothing leaking. That's when I noticed the water damage on both sides of the vanity while watching also watching the 3 kids run amok thru this mcmansion as cleaning ladies followed behind them.
Diagnosis was dont negelect a child with a full bathroom. The contractor said to me "You really think he caused all this damage?" I said "I have my own 4 year old redheaded boy and you sign a waiver saying I'm not responsible for the damages we can let him loose in your house. I guarantee he will somehow open your safe and present to you the shattered remains of your most treasured possessions and look at you waiting for praise."
As a dad of 3 beautiful girls 15-5 I can vouch that kids can flat out disappear like batman into rooftop shadows in the blink of an eye and its absolutely terrifying every single time.
I'm eternally thankful I have a clingy dog. When I baby sit a friend's toddler my dog will follow him everywhere because she's a rottweiler and they're both a livestock guardian breed and a Shepard breed so she both wants to protect kids and herd everywhere together. The kid would sometimes wander into brush or hide in my raspberries and my dog would just stand next the plants and stare at where he was so if I couldn't see him I just needed to look for her to know where he's at. When I took him for a walk I just tied the dog to him because then he couldn't wander off since even a grown man can't force a rottweiler to budge, she's like a fuzzy little brick wall.
@@tumslucks9781what made you decide to be so racist outta nowhere sit
@@h4ppyn0m4dthese comment sections are flooded in incels and KKKevins
My dad wouldn't care if I vanished for a whole month unless my mom starts frantically calling because I went missing for one night.
@@tumslucks9781pretty sure you live a sad and miserable existence
I once got lost in Mammoth Cave National Park for a whole day and night. It was... unpleasant. You don't know the meaning of "pitch black" until you're out in the woods alone with no supplies in the middle of the night.
Glad you made it out!
@RoanokeTales Thanks. It was definitely an experience, I'll say that. One that I never want an encore of. 😅 It was only sheer, dumb luck that I made it out relatively unharmed, thanks to (literally) stumbling into a deer blind that night where I found some candy and other little snacks. I spent the night there curled up in as tight a ball as I could because it was cold af at the time (early spring and nights hadn't gotten around to warming up at that point). The next day, I somehow managed to wander clear out of the park and into a logging camp, where I learned I was some 15 odd miles away from where'd started. How a literal toddler managed anything even remotely similar is beyond me.
Hell, I'm not an easy person to scare, like at all. I've only ever screamed 3 times in my life, and the other 2 were from extreme pain- first when I almost paralyzed myself falling out of a tree as a teenager and the last when my daughter was born (emergency c-section since she was a footling breech baby and it was a completely asymptomatic pregnancy that I'd previously had no knowledge of lol also not an experience I recommend, especially since I was somehow semi-conscious for the operation and actually _felt_ them moving my organs around and _knew_ that's what was happening, but completely unable to do or say anything about it). But yeah... that whole "can't see your hand in front of your face" thing? Definitely real. And I have excellent night vision for a human, always have. Experiencing total blindness like that for the first time... yikes.
@@asherikamichaela8425 wua, that sounds scary as hell! I can't imagine it. But yeah, even our german forests (which are to 97% used for logging) are creepy at night. Last year in october I was hiking (or rather just walking) like 40 Kilometer from nuremberg in a really rural region and it got dark and I had no light because my cellphone battery was diying and I just used it every 50 Meter to confirm my trail. I just followed the slightly brighter stones on the path and was scared of boars (those are the most dangerous animals you can find in south germany since wolfes are rather rar and tend to hide or flee...
I was so reliefed when I reached the next village.
So if that was creepy I don't want to imagine the terror of getting lost in US national parcs. Those are a whole different league!
@@lizzymueller3604 Glad you had a phone! Even though it was low on battery, at least it was something that helped you get out of there. 🤗 Happy you made it out. Can't compare your forests with ours since I've never been there. A lot of my family is actually from Germany, funnily enough. Mostly my bio father's side.
Oh my gosh!!! You are one tough girl!! Thank goodness you made it out alive!! ❤
I went to school with Sammy, we had the same first grade teacher and he went missing when we were in second grade. I distinctly remember how the school had to try and inform us on why he wasn't at school. Parents came in to better explain, and for awhile everyone hung on to that hope he'd be found. After a month it was just hope his body would be found, I didn't fully understand it back then but I knew he wasn't coming back. Sammy was a really happy go lucky kid, always laughing or smiling.
Parents came in to better explain? One if your in a school your old enough to know better. Two its expected you know better. Three odds are more he left campus if not built like a prison or wandered into a heavily low traffic area/building/facility.
@@1014pmaybe parents and family of the child missing came in hoping one of the kids knew something
Yeah me too.
sammy was the one who disappeared at the lake side. watch the video before commenting, dude@@1014p
Slow down 😢
"Your son is fine but we lost him"
cue me laughing and saying "How do you know he's fine?" at the exact same time as Roanoke. Quality
I seem to remember that there was some sort of of error in reporting for that one and that the father actually was present with the group when his son disappeared.
You wouldn't actually be laughing irl.
Having been a nanny and now having a child of my own, I’ve always found people who judge parents who keep their kids on a leash to be really ignorant. Like tell me you’ve never had to take care of a kid without telling me you’ve never had to take care of a kid. Once they learn how to crawl, they’re gone, never mind once they know how to walk. In my opinion, better to look kind of silly and maybe incur some judgement from others than to have a dead kid because they ran into traffic before you could stop them.
So agree with your comment.❤
Besides, it’s worn with a safety harness. It’s not like you have them around the throat. Just look around at all the made up crap people complain about all day long just to play the victim card. People are behaving as if they want to be miserable and can’t seem to be happy about anything anymore.
Guaranteed those who complain about parents who use child leashes are the very same ones who smack their kids around and call it “discipline.”
I had two kids and I still judged parents who used them. It's my third that completely changed my mind. I clearly was able to make my other two kids listen and stay with me, don't leave the side of the car etc but my third made me have the realisation that all kids are different when it comes to listening and I just got lucky with my first two.
My young niece is like this, she just up and runs off for no reason. I mean come on, you're 2 girl take a seat and enjoy the cartoons already.
Am a child who had a backpack leash whenever my parents and I would go somewhere like a city or mall. Can confirm, it most definitely saved my dumbass 2-4 year old life from running into the street and getting got by a car. Don't feel bad leashing kids. They are constantly trying to commit sewer side, I swear. Also, have ADHD, and as a kid it was impossible to just "sit and enjoy cartoons".
My mother is terrible at remaining calm when something terrible happens. Nine years old, got lost in Walmart. My aunt found me, and told me I should’ve stayed hidden. Mom found, eyes bloodshot, screaming at me for getting lost. Took a while to calm down and apologize. Bless her heart 😂
your aunt seems a really weird one, and not in a good way.. 🤔
This video reminds me of the two maps I've seen on Reddit that compares known cave systems and the cases of missing people. The maps were incredibly similar.
Is that meant to imply missing people potentially disappeared via mysterious cave entrances?
@@Tracker947 yes
@@Tracker947without a doubt in my tiny stupid little mind
@@Tracker947 Feral people are responsible
People snatching Faey that live in caves, clearly!😮
Fun fact to stay in a straight line in a forest. When passing a tree alternate which side you pass on. Left, right, left, right or vice-versa.
Or you use the target method. Pick a target, walk to it, then pick another target.
@@marie22tully10 lol
@@Kevin7557 I would think this was common sense
@@danielmontoya6664 Funny thing about common sense is it isn't that common. That joke aside, a lot of people just wander and don't realize they're shifting direction.
@@Kevin7557 yeah, I heard it's because every human has one leg that's slightly shorter (even just a few millimeters) and that one is used with more weight. That leads to a circle line in the long run if you don't use a distant object to focus on.
That last little boy, Jaryd, is the saddest, to me anyway. The dad didn't want to let the kids go and should've trusted his gut. I wouldn't be surprised if the other kid suffers from horrendous guilt and depression over not being able to protect her little brother.
Where was the child's whistle? Quick way to find a lost child.
Literally just yesterday in a residential area, two girls asked if we'd seen a boy because they'd lost their friend. They found him literally two minutes later, but all seemed around ten. Definitely had me on alert
A few years back, while I was still a complete city boy, I more or less found myself needing to walk 20 miles through wooded mountains to get to a wedding. No cell phone reception, no one knew I was doing it. I'm from Michigan, and had never been to Colorado (where the wedding was).
I brought only a few beers and some bread as supplies. Walked in jeans and a dress shirt, dress shoes in bag.
I walked the last few miles in complete darkness as my cell ran out of battery. I had only my memory of a map I briefly looked at to guide me. It had rained and hailed, I had 0 way to dry myself after both. Just kept hiking.
I somehow made it on time to the wedding.
Nowadays, after converting to country life, I see how fucking dumb I was to have done that. Like, incredibly dumb for having embarked on that venture.
That I made it unharmed is a miracle. I've done plenty of stupid shit, but I now see that situation as #1.
lol, yes u were a dumbshit for that, be lucky u made it out 💯🙏
That one's story definitely makes the parents look suspicious.
Also it's easy to go overboard and throw blame on the parents since in a monstrously overwhelming number of cases it's someone close to the kid who is the perpetrator
You have to remember unless you know for certain they're guilty you could be heaping a huge pile of s*** on top of the worst thing that ever happened to these people.
kicking a man while he's down
@@magicpyroninja why are you talking to yourself?
If you want to hear a psychics view on some of it then check out My Life My Psychic Wife. I think that's the channel title. It's interesting some of it
@@howdareyouexist They were adding to their first comment, not talking to themselves.
@@magicpyroninjaYou're absolutely right. I have heard the full story of the parents of DeOrr, and I still don't think the parents had anything to do with it because of the way it totally destroyed them. There were clips of them at their home after he had been missing a little while and they were being harassed by people accusing them of being murderers, and the ooor mom just had a meltdown of epic proportions and it didn't seem staged. The sheriff in their town accused them mercilessly too borderline on harassment. Those poor people have been through a lot. And the grandfather who they thought was watching little DeOrr dealt with a lot of grief himself being blamed for his grandson's disappearance.
I used to think horrible things of parents who kept their kids on leashes too, till I became a parent and my 2 year old broke free from our grasp in a parking lot and got hit by a car. She was incredibly lucky, no broken bones, but we put her on a leash after that until she was older. She still remains an incredibly accident prone child, including when she was 5 and got bit by a rabid bat.
Honestly, sometimes it's just best for kids who might have a tendency to be active and run on impulse. It might look strange from an outside perspective, but not all parents who use child leashes do it out of laziness or neglect. Sometimes it's just another necessary precaution to ensure their child won't evade supervision and get themselves into trouble.
Rabid bat? I think you mean vampire
@@timber_wulf5775 a bat with rabies. I doubt what she says as her child would be dead. There is no cure for rabies
I ran away nonstop when I was little. I expecially enjoyed hiding from her.... I was put on a leash haha which was honestly for the best. Every moment I was free I was gone.
Honestly if I was a parent or in care of a small child, which I wouldn't be but for hypothetical sakes, I would risk the weird looks and judgement of other people for the safety of the child and leash them up, especially those that, like myself from the moment I could walk I was a child I was always off, uncontained haha, it's safer for both you and them tbh, cause kids are also like puppies, they will either play "submissive/dead" and seem like they've given up on their attempt at escape and as soon as you loosen up your grip they are gone, or they see something that catches their interest they won't think to tell you they are just going to look over at it like five feet away and then they wander off further 💀
People who have never been around kids don’t know how easy it is to lose track of a toddler. When my baby sisters were younger I kept my eye on them 24/7. But you eventually need to stop for 10 seconds to look at some food in the aisle or pay the cashier and bam they’re on the other side of the shop.
Most parents try their absolute best and their biggest fear is losing their kids. I can’t imagine the guilt you’d feel if your kid goes missing because you had to take your eyes off them for a split second.
Nah kids are just brats an dont listen and this is the price they pay. Oh well better for the rest of the population thin the heard of the dumb an weak.
Tbf, a lot of people are like "I only took my eyes off of them for 10 seconds" or "oh, I was only gone for 5 minutes" when it reality it was more like 30+ minutes. I used to see it all the time during summer with assholes who left their dog in the car while they just "quickly" run in.
Not that I'm saying kids, especially toddlers, aren't chaos incarnate, and can't uncannily teleport around like Jason Voorhees, but a lot of the time, the caregiver wasn't paying as much attention as they thought they were.
26:50 I'm SO happy you brought up that the fishermen could see the Christian group! Many people who cover this story leave out that detail & they &/or their audience proceed to call the fishermen stupid & blame them for the kid disappearing.
When my youngest nephew was a toddler, my sister and I had a small get together with some friends. We purposely huddled in a circle with nephew in the middle so we could keep an eye on him because he would get into anything and everything. I specifically remember looking away from him for a few seconds to look at one friend telling a story, and when I looked back down, nephew was gone. Looking around the room, he had managed to slip out of the huddle and climb halfway up a bookshelf on the other side of the room.
David Paulides has emphasized so many times the simple rules: 1) tell people where you're going 2) buy/use an electronic tracker on you WHEN/IN CASE you get lost so it will be easier for people to find you 3) bring a fire-arm if possible 4) travel/hike in pairs (case in point Julian sands) and 5) "try" NOT to go to Yosemite, which has the most disappearances..
And don’t ever separate
David Paulides is a scammer and a liar who steals people's money.
Let's split up gang!@@stfufool6703
And apparently steer clear of boulder fields near bodies of water during weather events like rain storms and snow storms.
Never trust strangers with your child, ever!
I don't care how nice they look or appear never leave your kids with strangers.
Good advice. But when you send your kid off to school aren't you essentially entrusting their safety to a bunch of strangers?
@@ryanh9183 There not going walking out in the woods, they're in a school and you know where they're at. Big difference.
@@BryanLChess So? You still don't know those people. And you never mentioned anything about woods or any other location in your original comment. Which makes it seem like now you're saying it's okay if they're with strangers as long as you know where they are.
@@ryanh9183 I guess some ppl just want to argue for attention. If you didn’t know what I meant then you’re either a child or a troll. It was obvious I was speaking about this type of situation. If you don’t know the difference between letting some strangers take your child into the woods and dropping them off at school then you’re not to bright.
It's always better to be yelled at for being nosy than to see the lost kid you let walk away on the news later. If you have a woman with you, definitely have them talk to the kid instead of a man. It's less creepy, and kids respond better to strange women vs strange men.
I saw something about the Deorr case in a documentary awhile back and I'm convinced the great-grandfather and his friend either know what happened or did it themselves. I don't remember if the friend was interviewed but they great-grandfather was and just seemed so unconcerned and unemotional about the whole thing. I get not every family is super close but it stuck with me as being incredibly callous.
G Gpa Walton had the onset of dementia and was in very bad health, which is why Jessica was his paid caregiver in the first place. He was cleared by Law Enforcement and passed away shortly after.
Isaac, the friend, is a little "slow" with developmental issues... which is why he is awkward with a flat affect. I believe they brought him along on the camping trip because he's a convenient scapegoat. He passed his polygraph and was also cleared by Law Enforcement.
Do you know who didn't "conclusively" pass their multiple polygraphs??!
Jessica and Vernal.
There’s a case were mom, daughter and daughters friend were all found dead. The husband back home was a suspect because he was cold n callous. Only problem was he was hundreds of miles away with a SOLID alibi.
I had an uncle by marriage that couldn’t give a 💩 about anyone 🥶
I am disappointed by David Paulides bringing this Deorr case as a 411 case. There are too many indications that this is a murder by a family member. Paulides is mentioning this case again in his latest movie which he should not have because of that..Paulides should know better than to consider this case as a solid 411..b
The parents have even hired a private detective to go over the case. After his investigation, he thinks that the parents were involved.
@@LittleBlueOwl318I put zero stock in polygraph results. Their child is gone of course theyre gonna be highly emotionally on those questions which leads to false positives.
The lack of evidence of the child being there and the PI thinking the parents were hiding something are the more relevant information
Paradoxical undressing seems to have a valid explanation now! Pretty much because of hypothermia your body retains all the blood in the central system i.e. heart, lungs, kidney, etc. As severe hypothermia gets worse mass vasodialtion occurs and since the blood is warm in the central system, the sudden rush of warm blood to your peripheral system actually makes it feel burning hot as all the warm blood was shunted away for an extended period. Also at that point you're most likely altered anyway so logic is thrown out the window
I have experience extreme heat in my frozen fingers after helping with the snow as a kid, no frostbite but definitely a lesson in biology
The first story, my guess is a dog picked up the kid and carried him away. Toddlers often confuse dogs and cats. Would make sense if a dog dragged him through the brush.
When my youngest niece was a toddler, there were two animals in the world, dogs and squirrels. Everything was either a dog (dogs) or a squirrel (everything else). When we went to a ren fair there were many squirrels (horses) and the largest squirrel in the world(elephant).
Surely there would be bite marks on either the kid or his coat then. Would a dog just pick up a kid and trot off with them but also be mindful not to bite too hard? I know that they can but it seems that a dog being so gentle wouldn't be inclined to just grab a baby and take it away.
@TheBlues32 might have been a sheep dog type trying to bring it back to their owner. Unlikely though.
I occasionally babysit kids in my neighbourhood as well as friends of my little sister. Behind my house and around the area is just open fields with massive trees and a big lake. I will never let any kids I look after go out to play anywhere, even when I’m watching, other than their backyard because of cases like these. There’s not really any dangerous animals in the fields, but they’re massive and it’s easy to get lost or even just injure yourself. Anywhere like that has massive risks and I’m not willing to take them😬
Good! Their parents are lucky to have found you since you sound like a responsible sitter!
bless you for actually caring for the kids yoi watch, too many babysitters have no idea what precious charges they are entrusted with.. (that includes grandparents, recently over here grandparents let their own dog bite the baby they were looking after, and they were all 'oops'. )
I just wanna say I relate hard to the guy you met at that party, I often go through moments where I want to run away and go missing just to escape life and myself for a bit, I hope that guy you met is okay wherever he is now.
Hope you don’t run away what ever your facing in life it probably be like a storm and end hood everything is ok and have a good day
Hope your happy man life ends up being good for you. Enjoy it
I remember a quote from grandma when it came to child leashes. “Toddlers are like tortoises, you look away for a moment and now they’re nearly across the street from the front porch.”
Small children are a lot faster than we think.
amen to that, especially at the beach..
i always get somewhat unnerved when i remember a story my mother told me where i had walked off from daycare at 5 years old, and was later found near the city center by a local mom that recognised me and brought me back.
It all ended well but i can't help but wonder.. What if she hadn't found me? What if i just kept walking? What if someone dangerous had found me? At least since it was the city a camera might have spotted me, but what if it hadn't been the city.
Shit's scary man
what if someone did grab you and you just don;t remember? a friend of mine has a weekend where he went missing and he has no clue where he went or what happened, but recently more and more people speak ut about how abusers snatch them from under the noses of their parents and thet were never believed on account of just being children and adults not wanting to deal with the trauma and the guilt.
Had to do the same thing at an indoor water park. Little girl look scared and around 3-4. I watched her wander and look around, then she tried to leave out the doors to the main lobby behind a random person who opened the heavy door. Alerted water park staff and her family lost her and were looking on the complete opposite side.
I found/came across a little boy at the zoo. He had to be part of group because he had a specific colored shirt with some school slogan on it, and I had seen older kids with different colored shirts earlier.
I had a random passerby go get a staff member because I didn't want to try and lead him anywhere and someone get the wrong idea. We looked penguins and eventually a teacher or aide came and got him, all was well.
But I really didn't know what to do as I had never encountered that type of situation before. Anyway, thanks for attending my Ted Talk.
If I ever go missing and end up on missing 411 somehow, just know I’m probably screaming mommy in a tree like a little girl while getting bit by squirrels
I've been watching your gaming channel on and off for years now and literally just found this channel today. Very glad I did I love missing 411 and other mysterious stuff like this. Great content I love your work! Thank you for your hard work on all your channels! You rock bro!
I love your bit about the national park service. Sounds like the SCP foundation. Keeping deadly things secret because it's more dangerous for it to be public and just accepting the small amount of disappearances and deaths.
They are the keepers of the treaty with the Sasquatches
The whole thing with the lake is literally from a SCP:Broken Masquerade tale iirc
@ethanhooper8606 ~ you mean the SCP is straight from the thing with the lake 😂
Jared's case is the kind of stuff that keeps me up at night. It's what was found of him that really gets me, just specifically part of his skull and one tooth. One single tooth. No foot bones in his shoes or anything. I just...don't see how that's possible if it was an animal attack.
That's normal for animal attacks or whenever something or someone expires in the open. You'd be surprised just how far and wide the weather and scavengers can spread remains.
It's legitimately why it's so commonly believed that our ancestors lived in caves all the time, just because it's so much easier to find more complete remains because they're protected. It's also why it's so rare to find complete fossils of prehistoric animals too.
@@aardwolf6668 this! Body yards have to have cages around the cadavers, so that birds of prey don’t carry pieces off. Sometimes they do leave them outside of the cages to investigate the activity. There are videos (NSFW) documenting body yards and what exactly happens to bodies left to the elements.
Was hiking in a national park off trail came across an elk carcass, a mt lion kill, the body was skeletonized but dry skin clung to the skull, when I got close two young squirrels came running out of the eye sockets. I've watched chipmunks drag away dead birds, antlers get gnawed by deer, rabbits, squirrels etc. Lots of critters of all sizes partake of a body. Scattered remains are the norm. I've never come across anything like a complete skeleton. Teeth get loose as the skull dries out and either fall out or get carried away by animals or weather...or a random human that doesn't realize they've come across a missing person.
body farms, you mean? @@peregrintook310
It is just astounding how fast small children are. When they are in pushchairs and you're in the process of unstrapping them - they are like coiled springs and ready to run before you're ready to grab their hand.
My son gave me a heck of a fright one day, the instant the pushchair strap unclipped he burst out free and onto his feet, ran across a busy road, right in front of a lorry, and was caught by an old man on the opposite side. I nearly died of shock, will never forget it - and learned never to trust him until he was old enough to cross a road safely on his own.
Hey Roanoke! Can you please make more videos covering the 411 missing people? It is so good to listen to you talking about this subject ^^
I got lost in the hualapai mountains in Kingman Arizona. I was heading back to my car which was about a 1.5 mile hike, it started to rain so I started to book it because I had all my camera equipment with me......I ran for about 10 minutes " and I can run really fast" and after a while the trail didn't look the same and I didn't recognize things I surely would have remembered seeing on my way there. Ended up calling 911 and they sent out search and rescue. I ended up running past the turn off I was supposed to take, and out in that area there is MANY trails, some marked and some unmarked. When they found me I was only about a quarter a mile away from my car. I felt like such an idiot because I was so close. Deputy told me not to feel like an idiot because I did the RIGHT thing! I stayed put, called for help and didn't move. He told me a lot of people " in my position" just keep searching for their car or the right trail and up moving further away from the initial area they were at and makes it even more difficult to find them. Very grateful for their assistance 🙏
Yeah, I can’t remember where I heard the story, but 2 guys went on a road trip before starting school (I think grad school), and both were experienced campers. For some reason, they also got turned around and one ended up dying while the other was close to death when search and rescue finally found them. They too were very close to their car - maybe less than a day’s hike away - but they kept wandering off farther away from the trail to the point that ppl had so much trouble finding them after they didn’t come home the day they were supposed to. Super sad story and I completely agree with the police in that you did the right thing!
I think you might enjoy the mysterious disappearance, and theories surrounding, the disappearance of 3 Lighthouse Keepers on Flannan Island in 1900. It's extremely peculiar the more and more you learn about the entire situation.
Didn’t mr nightmare read that one?
There is a new movie out now based on that event. And yes extremely strange.
Ah, yes! That's a weird one. The idea of all three being the victim of a singular accident just doesn't fit with me. It's that coat. It was a downpour in December. No one would willingly exit the lighthouse in that weather without grabbing their coat.
Wasn't it pretty easily explained as a rogue wave? Weather was fine, but they all went out to pull the supplies up from the cliffside and hot swept up
@@lizc6393 That's not how I understood it. The whole reason two of them went out to get the supplies was because things were getting rough out there. It was December, so it was pretty cold out. Coats would be a given. So, something prompts the remaining man to leave the lighthouse. There was always one in the lighthouse. What was it? What did he see or hear that was so urgent he didn't even grab his coat?
Okay so I've got Asperger's Syndrome and when I was about 3 or 4 my family went to visit relatives in Texas. I was small enough to walk but had very little awareness. I remember trying to find my dad but was unable to do so, even though he was just in the backyard.
So I decided to start looking for him. I left the house, went to doors that I thought were my cousin's to knock, and just continued on. I have vague memories of searching but I remember being picked up by the cops and fucking terrified since Cops was a well known TV show at the time. They took me to a children's shelter and eventually, miraculously, my father showed up. He says he was asked loaded questions like "how long have you been beating your kid" and such and was initially denied from seeing me. But when I finally saw him I ran over to him and said "Dad! You got lost and I found you.". Getting lost is apparently a documented thing for Aspies.
It’s weird I get lost in town but in the woods I definitely don’t for whatever reason.
@@nickdavis5420 My partner who is on the autism spectrum has the same thing. He will invariably wander off in a shopping mall and I'll often have to involve security to find him. Get him in some woods and he's suddenly a park ranger with direction finding super powers.
I keep miss hearing the word ass Burger
I always love when Roanoke talks about my state of Oregon! ☺️
Beautiful state btw!
Living in oregon and going camping a few times a year I can attest that it is quite easy to get lost in the woods. I have had a few times where I almost got lost but I have a habit of marking the trees with rocks or something else
That's a great idea to mark the trees!
Cool thing about the first story, idk if this has been mentioned, but what's his name that does Survivorman, tried to cover the same distance that kid did in the same time frame going through fences. Iirc, he barely finished the distance in the same timeframe and said for a toddler to do so was impossible without help.
That makes the story creepier imo
I've heard that the guy that wrote a book about a lot of the missing people got mad at Mr. Ballen for talking about the missing people. You can't make money off of people's tragedies then get mad because someone else is as well and Mr. Ballen was always really respectful when talking about the events.
My best friends youngest brother disappeared one day, in the house. After over an hour of looking, he came out of a kitchen cupboard saying "I'm here!"
This was hard to watch as a father. Always have eyes on the little ones, they are extremely "I want/don't want," and will take off. Stay safe
This is why no one ever took my babies anywhere without me if I didn’t know them really, really well and trust them with my life (my children are my life). The person who should’ve been held ultimately responsible is whomever specifically asked the dad if they could take the kids. Also, you DO NOT tell someone you’re taking their kids to one place only to then take them somewhere else. Those people are irresponsible morons.
The only person i dont worry about having my kids without me is my brother. I dont even like when theyre with my parents lol! My brother isnt even particularly responsible or anything. Never had kids himself either. Maybe thats actually a plus. Hes extra aware cuz hes not complacent like most parents. I just know if something does go bad he knows what to do, and he would die for them with zero hesitation.
I've been in situations where I'd be completely lost without a GPS (magnetic rocks messing with the compass)
It's chilling how quick it could go badly, all it would take is a trip or fall.
The moment you realize youre truly in big trouble is terrifying lol! In any scenario. Ive been thinking about that a lot since my mom recently caught herself on fire. Imagine your clothes catching fire, the moment you realize youre not gonna be able to put it out yourself.
That helicopter crash was insane! Hardly ever hear of people surviving them and even more rare the entire crew!
Most Helicopters are designed to slowly descend when their engines die mid air the bladed still spin although at a slower rate which causes it to slowdown its rate of descent.
Unless if the blades get caught in power lines or low visibility causing the helicopter to crash full speed into tall obstacles then it is surprisingly survivable.
The other difficulty is that without a sighting device ,people are prone to lose the trail because of dominant side. Right handed will veer to the right,etc. and because it's subtle people don't notice. As an experienced woodsman, my advice is to tell somebody where you're going and when you're coming back and if you do get lost, hug and tree. That is to say stay in one place. Unfortunately, with a toddler all bets are off.
So I just found you and am already starting a binge! You're awesome and incredibly entertaining
thank you sooo much for not only including freedom units!🙌 love your content! :D
@RoanokeTales I hope you see this comment. I rewatch these and the RG channel episodes more than I can count and I enjoy them more every time. Dang solid work
In the Keith Parkinks case, the distance he traveled in the amount of time he did, at night, was tested by Les Stroud, tv show "Survivor Man." He's a highly experienced mountain man, and he was unable to cover the distance (12mi.) in that amount of time (19hrs.). The distance was 12 miles, but that's straight as the crow flies. Walking 12 miles in semi-rugged terrain and zig zagging around makes it a lot longer. So bizarre.
Gotta be some kind of animal if not a few took him honestly, explains how he got so far and the scratches
@@Ejcb76 He would have bite marks if it was an animal. Especially when carrying a person.
@@-j-plum6297 big birds like eagles wouldn't leave bite marks
@@Ejcb76 Possibly. I forgot how old he was but I assume 2 yrs old. That's a lot of weight to fly with. Maybe a condor. From what I found, condors weigh at most 33 lbs. To also carry that weight. Maybe but doubtful.
birds of prey, a toddler is no bigge rthan a lamb and sometimes owls make mistakes, ne attacked my dad in the woods once while he was walking our dog.. guess from the top my dad looked like a lamb, with his white curly hair.. 🤣
The disappearances remind me of a story I heard about girl who was in the city with her friends and she somehow disappeared nearly instantly. Apparently, she was walking ahead of her friends, and turned a corner. By the time her friends turned the same corner she was just gone. That's all I ever heard of the story, and I don't remember if I was told any names, but it's crazy to think that as advanced as we are, people can still just disappear
My toddler vanished within 3 seconds. I turned to go in camper, he was right behind me. Turned… he was gone. I have never been more afraid, and stressed. We did find him behind our camp sight in blueberry bushes. He was so small we couldn’t see him. I never have had a worst headache after. Worst day of my life. Worst!
When I was 2, my mom was hanging laundry when I wandered into a cornfield in our backyard.
I somehow walked 4 tenths of a mile, in the corn, crossed a 2 lane road and walked to my grandparents farm.
Mom drove down to the farm hysterical and they found me walking into the barn to see my Pop Pop.
Kids can do crazy things
I've been in the woods on and off again most of my life. I always follow these 3 rules, and it'll keep you safe for the most part.
1. Gun at the ready, ALWAYS. You never know what is around the next bend. It could be a delicious dinner or a startled predator. Don't have a gun? use a flare launcher, it'll spook most anything in the woods, bonus it starts fires pretty well too.
2. Never break camp after dark. It's too easy to get lost and turned around, better to stay put and wait for daylight.
3. No matter what you hear, everything is okay. There's a lot of weird noises in the woods at night, it's usually coyotes or small mammals making day to day noises but if you've never heard them before it can freak you the hell out. Better to be levelheaded and have your wits about you.
How people can hike without an AK-47 is beyond me.
Elaborate on number 3. What’s the the most creepiest things you’ve heard
Another fantastic and unsettling upload, thank you very much😆😆😆
I work on a piece of property deep in the mountains, just had to stop one of the dogs from munching down on bear scat earlier today. If I'm off the main lil dirt road going through the property I'm always armed with a rifle, bear mace, and an air-horn. Even when it seems silly. I usually have 2 half wolf half pitbull dogs following me around as well. I ran out to check on a motion sensor trigger wearing flip-flops one time and almost stepped on a rattle snake, I usually wear 8" Carolina Loggers, figured it was wind and I was in the middle of eating so I just wanted to go look real quick and bolt back. All it takes is one moment of inattention, one bad choice where you lose vigilance. Every so often you need a reminder of that so I watch spooky stuff like this. The woods are dangerous, cities are tailor made for people to safely inhabit, an RV or tent in the mountains is like a fishbowl housing a goldfish submerged in the middle of a shark tank. If somethings hungry enough or dedicated enough to getting you, it's gonna get you unless you have some means of stopping it. Arm your goldfish with stuff that can at the very least give a shark the worst day of its life, is what I'm sayin'.
This is my first time coming across your channel and usually I watch like spooky videos like these you know everyone talks in this creepy tone or like very wary or I don't know how to explain it but you're just like homeboy just straight up disappeared and i freaking love it!!!!
I actually have a story similar to these situations when I was 4 years old (I'm 24 now) my family and I were camping out in the Utah desert area or Nevada (unfortunately I don't remember a lot and my mom when she was asked about the situation says it was a long time ago) anyway we were riding four wheelers and like a dumb kid I ran after one getting pretty lost I remember trying to walk back but not remembering where to go then seeing a dust devil spin and I blacked out. When I came back to I had walked back to my camp not remembering anything in-between but apartently I was only gone for 10 minutes but I remember much longer in all it was a weird situation.
U keep my attention and that’s hard to do. Great vids!
It's always pretty obvious that the people that attack the parents when a child goes missing probably don't have that much experience with kids and expect a robot like vigilance from the parents.
If you watch anyone for any length of time you will see a dozen instances where they avoid disaster by sheer coincidence. People aren't perfect and routine circumstances breeds complacency, it's just human nature. Unless you are sure they were responsible for the child's disappearance adding that accusation to their grief is pretty low
Perhaps so...but the parents mistaking what he was wearing at the time? The coat they claimed he was wearing when he disappeared was found at their home after eviction. So all four of them would have to have been mistaken. That's bizarre.
1:08 I’m not a survival expert but I’d say do not pick a direction unless it’s to get to a large mass that you can see
So following the sun rise could be useful, or if you see a mountain
But in most scenarios, try to stay within 30 feet of where you were first lost, and if you hear someone nearby announce your presence, if you are not found for 2 days expand your stationary area until you have clean water
Finally, don’t get overconfident, you’re a human, not a grizzly bear
Les shroud tried to retrace the same path that 2 year old took. He had to call it off said it was to dangerous. He had no idea how that child could do what he did. Apparently, lots of people have a hard time believing it.
I remember that when Dave Paulides covered his story. It's spine-chilling.
I used to judge parents that kept their kids on leashes but after all the crazy stories I've heard I will probably be doing that for my future children.
I have an autistic 6 year old who would absolutely take off running in the forest and never think to turn back or return when his name is called. That 2nd story is my worst nightmare.
I always wandered, got lost several times as a toddler. It's a miracle I wasn't lost permanently
The 2 year old wandering off doesn't surprise me. People don't give little kids enough credit, with how intelligent they truly are. While their mind hasn't developed enough to lie yet, or even form proper memories. There is clearly enough there for survivability purposes that we have long forgotten.
The only reason I can relate to this story is the fact that when I was 2 years old and in diapers, my mother left the flat front door open, to which I escaped out of it. By the time they had realised what had happened and freaked out, they came across me causally in nothing but the diapers I had on, I was at my nans flat some distance up the road. I'm trying to hit the buzzer to get inside. Luckily, I was too short to reach.
I, of course, have zero memory of this, but after singling out each family member involved without them getting together to make things up, they all shared their experience from their perspective, and it all lined up.
There is clearly more to infants than we realise, I mean think about it. Horses, zebra, cows, etc. are born and stand up ASAP, which increases their odds of survival. The first year babies are pratically useless and require their parents to survive, but once they hit 2, they are really independent, always learning new things and getting up to a lot of mischievous things. Honestly, kids need to be watched all the damn time. Just a second to slip away is all it takes.
I was lucky my nan lives 10 minutes up the road and in-between my auntie lived. So there was family out and around ASAP. I am a little surprised I was never kidnapped in at least the 10-minute window it took to realise and raise the alarm. Considering the area and how many flats are around that could suck me in to never be seen again.
Spent 15 years as a long range Reconnaissance patroller.
People completely over estimate their abilities in the woods.
"Wyoming looks like the moon with grass."
Can confirm.
i remember going to a fair with a couple friends and some of their other friends, one woman brought her young child, i think around 4 years old, and by the time she walked from her car to us the child had disappeared, we didn’t even know she’d brought the child until she started freaking out about her not being by her side anymore, she was found on the other side of the fair fairly quickly but i can’t imagine how scary it would be for your child to just suddenly disappear when you’ve only walked a few metres from your car
"The miracle of life is usually slimey and smells horrible". I snorted and almost LOLd in my office.
kids have an uncanny ability to just disappear, you can just turn your head away for one second then back and they are gone. So annoying in big department stores. lie detector tests are unreliable. And as a parent, i would NEVER stop searching.
giving so much mr ballen energy i freaking love it
Never overestimate your own ability especially in the forest away from civilization. For those that have been in the wood just a few metres away from the track can get you into trouble even for the most experience one
This stuff use to not bother me but being a parent of 3. It makes me beyond sad for any parent who goes through this
Top 3 reasons not go to national parks:
3. You could go randomly missing.
2. Rabies
1. Wendigo
Also: bugs
@@lexyshannon9428 I mean I prefer to fight a bug then the wendigo
@@CommanderM820 oh yeah, for sure! I just prefer to avoid bugs when I can help it
@@lexyshannon9428 yeah me too can’t blame you
Unhinged serial killers lurking about in National parks is another reason not to hike or camp alone.
I encountered the going in a circle when I was in middle school and determined to make a straight path in the woods. My solution is to constantly try to turn left just slightly. Your line may end up slightly left, but it's a lot better than a circle. Also, pick a tree straight in the distance, and use that as a marker to go to. Continue to do this until you reach your destination.
I got lost in a small mountain hike once. We got to a road just in time as the sun had set. That was a scarry experience. We ended up being 7 miles away from our car. Could have been a bad outcome if not for the size and being a populated area.
I like your channel because you explore plausible explanations ...
Respect the woods. Be patient. Focus.
absolutely loving the irl horror stories, so much weird stuff out there
So for the first kid I have two theories. First one is if his testimony could be believed and it was a cat. Assuming this was the case then my guess is that he wasn’t hunted by a large cat, but rather mistaken for a cub. Picked up and carried, possibly dragged through rocks, barbed wire, etc. got free for a bit where the footprints were found, picked up again and carried by his coat until he fell out of it, at which point the large cat realized he wasn’t a lost cub and left him behind because the search party was closing in.
The other possibility that I see is that it may have been an eagle or other large raptor attack. This would explain the lack of footprints leading away from the barn, as well as the scratches, but it’s a bit hard to believe that such an attack wouldn’t be fatal.
My thoughts too interestingly enough
Thirty eight years in law enforcement with most spent as the K-9 sergeant I dealt with Human Cadaver Recovery. If the dogs weren’t finding a scent it means there’s no scent to be found. We never used just one dog or two dogs, we used several dogs and multiple teams. I was on a FEMA Task Force made up from law enforcement, fire service and SAR members. The dogs will find a scent if there’s one there. We could even use a boat and the dog would indicate over the spot where the body was in very deep water.
I also noticed that people who did undress (paradoxically) were usually intoxicated on alcohol or narcotics. It’s not as common as what some skeptics like to say it is. I’m speaking from experience and I believe David Paulides has found some good points of reference in his search for the answers.
The woods are a crazy place. I grew up in Wv so im about as at home as you can be. Ive been around strangers pulling guns. Those escaped murders years ago. Got lost as a kid around lake Murray in SC once for a few hours. Thats a whole new kind of scared. Got almost dark to where canopy made it black. 3 of us at least but still remember it vividly.
When I was a kid I "went missing" in a store. I was with my mom and aunt and apparently I decided I wanted to play hide and seek. They closed the store and had people looking for me while I hid under a display table. My mom said I jumped out at them and tried to scare them. The way she described her feeling while I was gone for maybe less than an hour I can't imagine the feeling of never finding your kid again. I feel horrible for anyone that has had to deal with that.
You know easy it is for kids to disappear. If they don't want to be found or want to hide, you can't find them. Have you ever played a game of hide-and-seek with kids, they can hide so well that even after you said you're done playing they will still remain hidden.
I went thru a SERE school (US Navy Rescue Swimmer) in Brunswick Maine Deep into the forests and we were lost the entire time running from Armed Soldiers for two weeks... so I can confirm it's super easy to get lost even if your trained under stress lol. Good times though!!!
@RoanokeTales The Valley of Headless Men -- Nahanni Valley
A while back, I was probably 10-13 or so, when I went to a beach and after swimming for probably a few hours give or take when I went to go back to my family I realized I had drifted down the beach a ways and had gotten turned around. Turns out I was about ~1/4 mile from where I thought I was. I walked up and down prolly 100 feet back and forth once I realized I was lost and then just sat down around where the wet and dry sand met. A few minutes later some people asked me if I was lost and pretty much right after that some of my relatives showed up. Another time I got lost at Legoland, must've been like 6-8 at the time. Crazy stuff happens sometimes
"There's something about this place.. Something I didn't tell you. It's.. Outside. People are coming and going all the time, it's madness!" - Delilah, Firewatch.
i work at the front door of my work. I'm not allowed to touch children in any way but I also can't just let a toddler run out the door into the street by themselves (and toddlers love to run for the door for some reason) so I've had to get creative, (I once had to tackle my younger sister as a toddler because she was about to run out into the street in front of a speeding car and I gave her a concussion. Which sucks but was better than getting flattened by a Ferrari).
One tactic that works with slightly older kids is to ask is something like "Do your parents know you're over here all alone?" Though sometimes I'll get funny answers like "I'm here with my tío" (in which case I would just rephrase the question) or "Yeah, she can find me" which was immediately followed by his mom barreling around the corner like "I can't find my son!"
But yeah, TLDR, it's better to stop and try to help than to do nothing.
My fav case ive heard is the film crew being in the woods and one of the crew just suddenly runs full sprint down a hill, off into the woods. Never said a word. They couldnt catch up with him, and no one ever saw him again. Imagining being there, it mustve been the creepiest thing ever. And as a man who doesnt like not having answers, id go nuts, as a witness to that, wondering wtf he mightve seen that made him do that.
Yes his family accused the rest of the crew of being involved in a plot to kill him.
@@voivod6871 i never heard that aspect. Id like to know the details of it. Maybe its true.
@@jotun.616 Don’t think there was any real evidence but it is a very odd case for sure.
Survivor-man (aka Les Straud) says to go the opposite direction of what ever side is your dominant side, whenever you encounter an obstacle you can't go over, like a tree. So, if you right side dominant and you encounter a tree on your path, your instinct will be to go to the right around it, however, Survivor-man says, go to the left around that tree. That should help you stay on the correct path for longer... hopefully. IDK, I usulay just follow Waze
Thank you for being you. Most times I listen to a video of yours, you give me a bright moment to my days (the sad parts of this one notwithstanding). Some have a hard time letting a personality through with just spoken word. You have no such trouble.
I believe it is possible if youre in a delirious or panic state. Especially as a child, Just because yes they are physically weaker compared to what can be out there. But they can hide in places we can’t even get half way in. I believe a child can be determined especially when they want to go home.
Good job on video The cadence of your voice is very good
My daughter was a runner, no fear, thought everything was a game. My nieces and nephews were *not* . My sisters and cousins couldn't understand why I had to watch her like a hawk or keep confirming with the person that I had ask to watch her, *that they were still watching her* because she would just bolt.
Until my cousin had her third child.
Her first 2 were "perfect" and then she started coming to me for advice on how to control her 3rd.
I said "I don't know" .....
I knew I recognized your voice lol I watch your videos on breaking down fictional creatures. But happy to be here as well. Nice to fall asleep to some creepy stories
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Its sad when you just see his empty ruined clothes
You just know that he didnt survive and wildlife Got to him
Just by the state of his clothes thats sad
'The moon with grass' 😅😅😅 nice one.