Could US Protect Guam From A HUGE Chinese Missile, Naval & Aerial Invasion (WarGames 175) | DCS
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We simulate a fictional Chinese strike and invasion on the tactical island of Guam using hundreds of shore-launched missiles as well as a large carrier strike group. Can Guam hold out?
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10:04 Battle!
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It's weird to see Guam playing itself for once.
Yes it is a nice treat for me also.
Maybe if the ww2 Marinas map and the Corsair ever get released it can play itself again.
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*squints at Guam*
Not sure if real…
Hahaha
The reason the SM-3's didn't fire until the YJ-21's were out is because the SM-3 is a strictly anti-Ballistic missile interceptor. It doesn't engage cruise missiles.
Good point
They should have put the burkes in front so essentially could be used
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True, since YJ-21 can be seen as ship-loaded DF-21, which is a ballistic missile.
Or gave them a SM-6 load out which is basically a SM-2 and SM-3 in one
Simba landing his J-35 and going shopping at the Super Mart has to be my favorite Grim Reapers moment.
44:40
Like you called it out yourselves, timing at 31:50 though🤣
"Fly is out of missiles, RTB!"
>The AIM-260 coming right for him
"Are you SURE about that?"
It was just an expedited RTB
Wonder if C17 could launch air to air missiles via Rapid Dragon and datalink to AWACS... either in real life or in game?
Agreed - plenty of Rapid Dragon here:
Rapid Dragon & MALD vs Russian Black Sea Fleet: ua-cam.com/video/sHTGKG1cYec/v-deo.html
Rapid Dragon vs IJN WWII Carrier Group: ua-cam.com/video/QXONs2voDjE/v-deo.html
Rapid Dragon vs Russian Black Sea Fleet: ua-cam.com/video/rvUTl6xjxqY/v-deo.html
Rapid Dragon vs Omaha Beach Defenses: ua-cam.com/video/k4T1WWtVyYk/v-deo.html
Rapid Dragon vs Chinese Invasion Fleet: ua-cam.com/video/MQ1wrspnL7A/v-deo.html
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It can and has! I highly recommend the videos linked, they're great fun.
@@grimreapers I just went back through real quick as I thought I had seen them all. I have, I didn't watch them all the way through again, but I'm pretty sure Rapid Dragon isn't firing air to air in any of these videos.
Would a C-17 make an effective escort for AWACS? Not that I think it is a good idea, but it makes a decent stand in for P-8 Poseidon., which I think does pair well with AWACS. What can actually work via data link, JTAMS, SM-6, ESSM, etc....
@@ur_quainmaster7901 Effective escort? Probably, but they're too limited in numbers and strategic airlift is still pretty important
@Grim Reapers - Thank you, all of you! Thank you for doing the best you could with DCS's limitations and the scenario I gave Cap. I appreciate your time and dedication to all of it!
Thanks Jeffrey.
@@grimreapers - I would definitely like to see you do this one again with the additions others have noted in the comments. Could Air Force aircraft (from Andersen AFB) be involved as well, or does server limitations prevent you from doing it? It might be cool to see the F-22 Raptor go up against the J-35. I would put the CSG's a little bit closer in from both directions.
Why do you appreciate it though? Genuine question. It's a video game that they're trying to pass off as some kind of serious simulator or even at all indicative in any way about how these hypothetical scenarios would actually play out. I think their videos do much more harm than good since they're sold as simulations or "hard truths" or something.
@@coreyleander7911 - I appreciate it regardless of how realistic it may be because it gets someone to mentally walk through possible scenarios in their head of what could happen. It serves the same general concept as the CSIS war game between the U.S. and China did. It brings awareness to the every day person (that has no military background), from a generic level, of the basic complexities of military operations.
@@Jeffrey.1978 that's pretty insane. You might as well be watching wrestling, but I'm sure you do that too.
15:30 I'm pretty sure the DoD laid plans to make Guam one of the most defended places, if not the most defended place on earth in the coming years.
Plans are nice but as Mike Tyson once said. "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth."
@@Stinger522 Based Mike Tyson
That's already happening, they are already starting to put in extra air defense systems, with a lot more work next year. I believe it's all planned to up and operational by 2026 or so. So this roleplay really has Guam really heavily under-modeled. Guam will have Aegis Ashore, Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD), Typhon, Patriot, and Enduring Shield. It will have like 20 individual air defense sites. China could, theoretically, launch a saturation attack like this against those kinds of defenses, but I think it would cost them a large percentage of their ballistic and cruise missile inventory.
I’m always very happy to see a new video from Grim Reapers when i get home and open UA-cam on my TV 👌
Genuine question, why? It is similar to how someone likes WWE even knowing it's fake and not at all even close to representative of real life?
One small thing is there should have been a few units of US CRAM trailers (basically CIWS on a trailer) at the airbases. They can be easily airlifted in by C-17's and the Army has a ton of them
How many is a ton and are they networked? I am picturing something amazing and hilarious. If they're networked maybe they could be scripted to not waste all their ammo
@@Ariccio123 At least 43 Centurion C-RAM were built/ordered by 2008, mostly for places that no longer need them. They don't seem to be networked (minimal support requirements seems to be a design goal) but who knows what people aren't talking about.
@@Ariccio123 5 total Batteries are in the Active army, 4 in the national guard. They are networked through fire control radars of the same type. I believe they can be linked into other branches systems via data-link but im not sure.
@@benjaminshropshire2900 Army likes them for the light infantry divisions. Considering SHORAD only is convenient for units with armored vehicles and 101st,82nd,10th, and 11th don't have them CRAM is gonna stick around for those units. (at least in the 101st at campbell i saw at least 20 units there)
Yeh as soon as I re-watched this I realised we forgot C-RAM :(( :(
Keep up the great work Super Cap!!!! and all the GR folk.
Guam is set to have 20 new air defense sites. AEGIS weapon system SM-3 block IIA SM-6, AN/SPY-6, THAAD, Patriot, Iron Dome, TYPHON, Avenger air defense systems, mobile launch platforms with SM-6 & Tomahawk cruise missiles.
DF-51 can't wait to smash Guam
@@jonathantoymakerI didn't know DF-51 was capable of feeling that way.
@@everypitchcounts4875Yes that new A.I. is very emotional 😁
@@jonathantoymaker Is that the FOBS system?
@@gundamator4709 I can't answer my enemies questions...
The day after I bitched about missing Fly in these battles, the man, the myth, the German is back! Good to hear your laughter in the chat again! Now all we need is Damp and Violet back!
thanks man sadly it was just a single Day i could make it but wenn my Vacation is in the Xmas Time i will be here more often
@@FlybywireTheGerman No worries, we all understand that real life has to take priority over gaming, but it was good to see you back in the mix even if it's the only chance we'll have for a while.
Would love to see a replay of this cap . And Simba at the end with the " kiwi berries " sale had me laughing 😂
$2 for an avocado in 2026 seems unrealistically low the way things are going.
@@TheStormpilgrimin 2026 everyone will be paying for them in Yuan 😂
Lovely boom-boom video Cap, thank you.
That's a really weird bug with the Burkes. If you recall back to the Pearl Harbor defense video, we saw the exact same thing, where it gets down to perhaps ~75 or 80% drained in the full anti-air configuration, stops firing, and then continues firing again. The Avengers at Anderson also appeared to hold fire?
I'm commenting immediately after the cruise missile attack. I can't help myself, I like to comment when my thoughts pop-up into my head. Regardless of the outcome, this shows how much effort it takes only to try and temporarily disable a relatively small base. It's in a strategic position, sure, but it's considered an unsinkable carrier for a reason, as it doesn't take too much to rebuild the buildings or runways. There was a recent quote from the military though, stating they want to make Guam one of the most defended US air spaces and are actively working to make that happen. This is likely the realization that Guam will serve as an important strategic fallback base if there were ever a massive war with China, as Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, and Okinawa will all be right in the middile of things.
Also, as you stated, there's no way this would realisticially happen with SIGNAL/HUMAN/satellite intelligence sources and satellite coverage to observe missiles launches, ship movements, large air movements, and really the beginnings of any large attack. It's a big blue ocean to cross and impossible to hide those ships.
Finally, it's important to note China has continued to anger its neighbors in the region. Signapore is considered an allied base of operations, and now we see South Korea becoming a major arms developer/exporter, Japan is spending record amounts on defense and becoming more than a WW2-era defensive only force, Taiwan continues to prepare for their defense, although a bit slower than they should, Australia is becoming more serious about their defensive capabilities particularly by operating top-tier nuclear attack subs in the near future, and finally the Phillipines is developing into an important strategic ally due to their constant harrassment by Chinese vessels. The Phillipines is allowing the US to operate off of more islands/ports/airstrips lately and they're effectively providing the US with more "unsinkable carriers" to rely upon relatively close to China and their own series of militarized islands.
It goes back to what others have said though. All this effort for Guam? And what would one expect to do with holding Guam? Unless you also take out Okinawa, S. Korea, Japan, and Hawaii, have fun while you're on a short vacation in Guam hah.
Can you paste this to my Discord J? Can;t read ATM. Wife calling.
I would like to ask what has China done to anger neighboring countries in the region? About Taiwan? If Taiwan（ROC） claim independent, China will definitely resort to force, but will it not attack other neighboring countries? Only if the neighboring country, under the leadership (or instigation) of the United States, takes the initiative to firstly attack China's dispatched troops to regain Taiwan, then China will fight back, right?
@@XkMeng The US could claim the role as aggressor in numerous past conflicts and also numerous potential future conflicts, but not in SE Asia and the seas surrounding China. First, China dredged onto various reefs and tiny micro islands to build larger man-made islands and then build defensive and offensive military outposts including runways. Next, I believe the latest version is called the 10 dash line, but essentially, China is claiming that the entire South China Sea, including areas recognized via international law as being outside of their legal claim to territorial water boundaires and exlcusive economic zones, are in fact, China's territory. This goes against various countries like Vietnam, Phillipines, and others. Their neighbors have much smaller militaries and are effectively being bullied by China's navy, coast guard, and larrge fleet of fishing vessels recruited to take orders from the Chinese military.
Taiwan itself has claimed to be a democratic and independent territory as far back as the Chinese civil war between those supporting democracy and the communist elements of China that are in power of the mainland today. The democratic government effectively escaped to Taiwan and has claimed independence since including building up their military. Of course, the US essentially supports any country or breakaway government who wishes to follow the values of a democratic government.
However, I sense that you feel the US and/or others are the aggressors in the region. In this specific situation, China is th aggressor. The US isn't going to begin any war in the region and their current push to develop upgraded capabilities/weapons/strategy is to defensively counter China's growing aggression. Taiwan and the US aren't going to attack China, but China is building their military aggressively for a couple decades now, and it's a pretty poor secret that they look to take Taiwan by force, if possible, along the same lines as re-absorbing Hong Kong, although that was a bit different situation politically with UK influence set to expire there. Taiwan has no outside third-party government or higher power, it is simply the Taiwanese government itself not wishing to be part of mainland China.
@@jamison884 1. China's claim in the South China Sea is based on the inherited 11-dash line from the Republic of China (ROC). In 1946, Japan returned the islands in the South China Sea to ROC and established boundary markers, which were surveyed and declared in 1947 with the assistance of the United States. At that time, there was no opposition because there were no independent countries in the vicinity but only colonies. You cannot establish a new country to seize territory that has already been claimed by others. Furthermore, the BBC/CNN never told you that among the larger islands in the South China Sea, China only occupies 8, while Vietnam occupies 29, the Philippines 9, Malaysia 5, and Brunei 1. The practice of land reclamation and island expansion was actually initiated by Vietnam in the 1970s.
2. Democratic regime? No, the term "democracy" was a slogan of the Soviet Union and never appeared in the United States' Constitution. It was only after the Cold War that the United States seized the legacy of the Soviet Union and claimed to be a democratic country. As for the Republic of China (ROC) during World War II, that regime was already thoroughly corrupt, even more so than the late Qing Dynasty. Before the war, the average life expectancy of Chinese people was only 35 years. Therefore, the ROC was abandoned by the entire Chinese people. During the civil war, although the ROC had better weapons and foreign support, its army collapsed at the slightest touch, with large numbers of defections, as no soldier was willing to fight for the ROC regime.
3. After fleeing to Taiwan, the ROC has been preparing for a counterattack on the mainland. Its leaders have never declared independence. Both Chiang Kai-shek and his son, Chiang Ching-kuo (the second-generation leader who led Taiwan's development into a developed country), were nationalists and staunchly opposed Taiwan independence. They knew that if they caused Taiwan to become independent, they would be regarded as eternal villains in the history of the Chinese nation. Therefore, to this day, Taiwan's constitution still includes Taiwan, the mainland, Xinjiang, Tibet, and even Mongolia, with a larger territorial scope than the PRC's constitution.
4. The United States has never based its foreign relations on whether the other party is a "democratic" regime. Not at all. Even during the Cold War, the Soviet Union was the democratic country, while the United States was a republic. Until today, we have never recognized the United States as a democratic country. The term "democracy" is not found in the Chinese constitution or the US constitution. China is the true democratic country.
@@XkMeng Thanks for the history lesson, but I observe how things actually are, not what the history lesson says they should be.
The US is a democratic republic, and although the political system is quite terrible, often leading to mediocre choices at all levels of state and federal office, and the electoral college is an in inherently vulnerable outdated system, it has worked well enough to get the US where it is today.
China is a one-party pseudo-dictatorship with a rather unique combination of socialism, Marxism, and capitalism dictating its national economy.
Say whatever you want about the territorial situation in the S. China Sea, but the countries involved are not happy with China and that's all that really matters (to them).
The US isn't concerned with occupying small islands in the S. China Sea and like Europe before her, has given up on colonialism. Having access to runways and ports in the region definitely helps, but you know as well as I know, such usage isn't indicative of a greater plan to take territory from allied countries.
The US is in the region to support and defend allied countries like Japan, South Korea, Philippines, Australia, and Taiwan. Taiwan isn't going to be invading the mainland and if that were ever truly their goal, they're historically bad at preparing for it, as they would have zero chance at ever establishing a permanent beachhead.
From a purely militaristic perspective, the concept is straight ridiculous and will never happen. What's more likely to happen? China using it's extremely large military buildup since the mid-2000's (in particular) and attempting to take back Taiwan via force. Luckily for the US, Taiwan, and US allies in the region, China relies on far too many imports for its daily energy and food supplies, and any war would lead to both sanctions and a blockade, which China wouldn't be able to survive for an extended period of time.
The US has absolutely no interest in conflict in the Pacific, but that's currently the number one threat to the US, its regional allies, and the worldwide economy, so it will continue to prepare for the worst and continue the military buildup in stride with China.
I wouldn't worry about technical problems.
I guarantee you any battle like this IRL would have technical problems out the wazoo.
Fair comment.
yeah theres ample evidence of aircraft elevators on the Ford breaking down during routine operation. And its a known fact that if one the electromagnetic catapult on the Ford breaks down, all of them break because of how they're wired up.
At least in real life we can see how these platforms actually work instead of how Russian Muscovites who made and develop DCS think they do.
Entertainment at high quality! Thanks guys!
Thank you Capt.
It was a little funny, when Fire said he hit the carrier but not the plane, the first thought in my head was that at least he could hit the barn with that gun.😊 Love all the work you all do, thanks for the fun! Peace.
Thanks!
Great battle!
I just finished a WESTPAC onboard the NIMITZ... It's awesome to see you've created this video.
Andersen Air Force Base (AFB) in Guam has approximately 340 fighter and attack aircraft assigned to it. The base also has about 100 additional deployed aircraft that rotate on Guam
So essentially even with the 7th fleet completely redirected, there is way to attack short of a ICBM barrage.
simba landing and then goes shopping was greatXD
We were stationed at Anderson when I was little. :)
It's great to see real scenarios back again.
"real scenarios"
superior realism. chad demonetized modern scenarios vs virgin WW2 goofy who cares nonflicts. Remember the first china vs Taiwan wargame? How one built ontop of another, well we havent returned that yet but these little ones are a good start @@coreyleander7911
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You are 😊
That’s a decent price on avocados…. A moon pie has marshmallow between soft cookies dipped in chocolate. It should come with a side of insulin
Great video cap sorry it took so long for me to watch work ugh
Educational
YJ-21 doesn't follow normal ballistics it follows Sanger ballistics, SM3 would not be able to intercept them, only SM6 could.
Also, the carrier around Guam would be hit by DF-26 from the mainland, funny that you didn't include that.
I agree with you.
12:32 that is a fire everything moment
I’m pretty sure that Guam is slated to get Aegis Ashore system by that time. Also, perhaps some of the unused VLS cell have Tomahawks or Asrocs in them.
Roger that was the idea of the picket ships, best I could do for an analogue of shore AEGIS. Still not working properly, they have a big weird pause in the middle of their firing. Real annoying.
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@@grimreapersIm pretty that pause was them running out of SM-2s. For any Aegis system, it would need a combination of SM-2s/3s/6s. When a ship runs out of SM-2s its very vulnerable to CMs and low flying aircraft. Not even SM-6s can supplement for a lack of SM-2s. Atleast not at the ranges in the video. The SM-2MR is a MR-SAM, but at the same time can operate very efficiently as a SR-SAM. The SM-3/6 can do neither of those things.
Hope this helps.
You should do the same/similar mission but with wake island
It’s a Great Day!
I predict, Epic Boom Boom 💥💥
thank you for this battle.
my daughter is presently stationed on the Emory Land AS39 home ported in Guam.
as a Navy vet, and from what she can tell me without getting into court martial level trouble,
as soon as things with China/Taiwan get hot, her ship and every other sea worthy vessel, will depart enroute to "undisclosed" locations. from dead cold boilers to underway is likely 8 hours or less. a sub tender is not a surface combatant, so not a primary target. but is is a sub support/repair/rearm vessel, so a prime target of opportunity. so likely, in this scenerio,
the navel target area would likely be empty
Might be changing over pods if they cycle the silo canisters for missile type in the berks or just multiplayer coding with such large battle
Beige car at 44:49 needs to get that 20-year-old New Jersey plate changed to a Guam plate.
Kiwis on sale! What a savings!
Thanks for another great video Cap! I would be curious to see if you just did the attack with missiles, would the human pilots stationed at Guam be able to eliminate enough of the cruise missile to prevent the destruction of the base?
ooof that's a all order :)
When you get a short return on radar at 80 miles, It's the weapon bay door opening and then closing.
They are implementing an IRON DOME type defense system around Guam now..
could you add a setting to the scoreboard that tells you how many cruise missiles have hit their targets?
Came for the boom boom, stayed for Simba goes shopping.
Simba: “The People’s Shopper” 😂
Saipan, Tinian and Rota have runways that can be used also
I imagine there's no way to implement it currently, but it would be interesting to see how the rumored multimode seeker of the AIM-260 would change these engagements.
Missile Macross Massacre
Did you manage to get cooperative engagement capability working? OTH engagements might make the US do a bit better.
You forgot the Los Angeles class attack subs that are usually out there.
Exactly. These "simulations" are fatally flawed from the lack of submarines and, nowadays, orbital reconnaissance assets. A Chinese task force wouldn't get near Guam without eating a bunch of Mark 48 ADCAPs.
They are not modelled in DCS unfortunately.
Moon pie is like a cookie, no ice cream involved. But it has a creamy filling.
Marshmallow filling
I believe there is a thaad battery on Guam as well
Fun ride. I'm not going to lie. I would like to see you this re-done without the jam ups.
Welcome back Fly! You are one of my favorite GR's.
thanks man😁
12:38 is the CIWS shooting *through* the bridge? xD
The J-35 is supposed to be able to carry 6 missiles, it’s intended designated WS-19 engines should provide a maximum take off weight that’s almost 5/3 of the F-35 and it’s weapon’s bay appears way larger by the leaked photos
This is literally the modern battle of midway
There is ALWAYS at least one attack submarine ready to go to sea there. Don't forget the coast guard assets there (they might be able to do a suicide run). Guam, likely has more than one Patriot battery, I know that they have a THAAD battery there.
Is it there full time?
Also as far a subs, obviously its the same for both sides, and the AD would be abserloutely overwhelmed, i dont know alot about anti-submarine warfare, but i have a good understanding of a submarine squadrons contribution to BM warfare. And i think the ships on both sides would be overwhelmed depending on how many subs or sub squadrons are sent though
>not sure if there's any missiles left on the ships, because they still have some VLS cells closed but aren't firing
well, it _is_ DCS
Gaum also has a THAAD battery
For a high attrition battle like this, I wonder what effect pilot survivability has on things? If your pilots trust their plane to keep them alive, even if the plane it self if falling out of the sky in small bits, will they be more effectively aggressive or more wastefully reckless?
In order to prevent the carriers from being jammed by aircraft. At the beginning of each battle, place a stationary fighter on the flight deck the island that you can enter into at will, and fire upon any aircraft that cause traffic jams. Food for thought!
32:45 I actually think the irl loadout would be 4 PL-15s. The overall design of J-35 (lack of gun port and side missile bays) suggests it is designed to snipe at long range while the lock is provided by frontline fighters via data link. Without a side bay it also means PL-10 would have to acquire the thermal lock from the fighter itself. However, this capability is unconfirmed afaik.
The equipment doesn't think, but people do. I believe they will have loadouts based on the scenario. I mean, why force yourself into a disadvantage when you have alternatives?
Problem is the PL-15's arn;t really working against the US stealth planes. Really need IR missiles.
IRL the J35 has an EOTS like the F35 and J20, both can detect and track stealth aircraft further than radars can.
Cap have you gotten anywhere with adding the helmet mounted display to the F-35 for increased situational awareness and the ability to utilize the HOBS aim 9x?
If you're still working on that, I was also wondering if you have seen the new conversation with the F-35 pilot that let it slip the F35 has higher AOA than the F18? Is that something that can be tested?
Looked into it. Pretty sure it's possible. Just havn't got to do it yet.
F-35s vs J-35s both with star and bars style roundels... I genuinely didn't know who I was looking at most of the time
Dude treated it as a sparring match. He just matched the smaller dudes energy when he could've ko'd him in the first round easily. I almost think the dad set this up. 😅
continuation please
I wonder if aegis decided that essm's weren't worth defending another target with. So it only used them to destroy missiles deemed too be targeting specific targets.
Could the carrier launch be an in game mechanism to stop saturation for stability
Another great 2026 battle. I'm surprised the Avengers didn't take Simba out when he flew in to do his grocery shopping. Unlike the Patriot, they would have been spread out away from the airfield and docks, so at least one would have survived the 2nd wave.
Amazingly, simba was hit from before and the game thought he was already dead lol.
@@grimreapers It was the ghost of Simba hitting up the latest deals on produce 🤣🤣🤣
"I had to scale back the attacking force!!" But did you do the same for the defenders?
1st June, 2026. Amidst the historic battle of Guam a brave J-35 pilot defects to the nearly destroyed Anderson AFB where Air Force personnel later state he was amazed at the variety of sweets available for sate at the base.
At welding school and now I gotta stop welding to watch this
My apologies.
@grimreapers u should be ashamed at the quality content u put out the nerve of u to do so
thadds would be employed i believe
Missing the crucial AEGIS Ashore installation. Probably a game limitation though.
And maybe we can add the iron dome to
US should place more NASMS there, one gets too easily overwhelmed, just like S300 needs some Pansirs.
americans are just starting to figure out soviet air defense strategy 50 years later.
IRL this would probably be a tactical nuke situation.
The Chinese wouldn't be that stupid.
@@Chilly_Billy I meant we would use tactical nukes against their invasion fleet.
@@Stinger522 The U.S. has no first strike policy. Otherwise the nuclear exchange would escalate.
@@crusher8017 Forgive me for not being trusting of words on paper. Anyone can move the goalposts if the pinch is tight enough.
@Grim Reapers
Lockheed Martin has confirmed that work is progressing on a weapons bay adapter for F-35 Lightning II A and C variants, according to a response by the company to The War Zone’s inquiry. Dubbed Sidekick, the device would increase the amount of AIM-120 Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM) the stealth jet can carry internally from four to six.
The Sidekick concept has been floating around in the F-35 space for a few years, but it was largely unclear what Lockheed Martin’s exact plan for the adapter was, as well as its developmental status, or if its emergence was at all related to the jet’s ongoing Block 4 modernization effort. The War Zone earlier this month reached out to the company to ask for any updates and was given confirmation that Sidekick now has backing
As noted, Sidekick will only be compatible with F-35As and carrier-capable F-35C variants. This is because the remaining short takeoff and vertical landing (STOVL) F-35B variants belonging to the U.S. Marine Corps have smaller internal weapons bays on account of the lift fan that it uses to realize its STOVL capabilities.
The War Zone followed up with Lockheed Martin to clarify if Sidekick will be a part of the Block 4 upgrade effort or if it will be an independent offering that could be retrofitted to older F-35s as well as installed on new-build models.
well, it would have been a good battle . . . what we got to see was good though.
Part 2? 🥺
Nice mission boys. You forgot to add the US AMRYS THADD SYSTEM.
That's Anti Ballistic missile only.
@@gundamator4709 might've saved the arleigh burkes then
Simba "Anderson , Chinese territory since ancient times. Ooo they have a sale on too! "
Burke vls will need time to cool down after rapid firing of many missiles, probably the reason they stopped firing 👍
that random windows disconnect sound scared me. you never really know if it was the video or your pc.
As a US Navy Veteran who served both on Guam and 7th Fleet, I find this interesting. They also didn't add NCTS Guam that I was stationed at. *Sadface*
GR, how about recreating Operation Mercury, the Battle of Crete?
BTW, I really enjoyed today's video. I was surprised that the US doesn't have a stronger missile defensive system on Guam. Considering its importance in the Pacific, I would think they would invest a bit more to defend themselves. Granted 250 missiles was a little crazy. But it seems that swarms are now a major part of military doctrine so you need to invest more in defensive systems to counter such strategies.
Back in March the DoD announced a 1.5 billion dollar overhaul of Gaums air defenses , it should get Aegis Ashore, IFPC (similar to iron dome) more THAAD, Patriot and I think some C-RAM.
@@gundamator4709thank you for the information
Guam is currently in the process of getting 20 new air defense sites. AEGIS weapon system SM-3 block IIA SM-6, AN/SPY-6, THAAD, Patriot, Iron Dome, TYPHON, Avenger air defense systems, mobile launch platforms with SM-6 & Tomahawk cruise missiles.
that 250 number would probably be made up in part by chinese MALD equivalents to soak up SAMs.
Please, Cap! Its Guy-er Falcon. It hearts my soul every time you say jee-ar falcon.
It's FLY
Would the Bushmasters be good enough to take out the cruise missles🤔
How nice of Simba to gift the Americans a J-35 by landing on their airfield to be captured by a horde of angry ground personnel with many guns.
I like to be objective. The logistics involved in this attack is probably beyond China. Pretty sure the first sign of aggressive action would put the entire hemisphere on scramble.
I thought anyone knows that If it's just an attack from an offshore platform, If you want to completely paralyze Guam, at least three carrier strike groups.
Now it's for real .
Every single simulation is firing bee-line missiles instead of broad waves of missiles. No dummies, either, or other counter measures.
Wait I thought the us Army also had an iron dome battery system in Guam as well
They did, but that was as a test and it is not permanently stationed on Guam. The US Army and MDA are working on deploying an Iron Dome alternative which is planned for permanent deployment on Guam.
Tico's are more than likely not available. Looking at US Navy doctrine it's likely that smaller ships only will be there.
Wouldn’t the hornets go after the ships with the LRASM’s??
Yes
Maybe, if they ever got to take off :(
I think with this kind of operation all the defending force would have to do is inflict enough damage on the attacking force to make any further offensive movement/invasion untenable. This also goes far an invasion of Taiwan.
Do you mean some kinda 'shock and awe'? Be so effective, efficient, lethal and above all overwhelming for one battle so that you have to fight no more?
@@rileymorrisroe6743 no not so much shock and awe, but being able to damage the invading so much that their original mission is untenable. Not necessarily winning but damaging them enough that they have to withdraw.
@@Pablo668 Oh i get you, i thought you meant a deterence by abserloute annihilation upon first contact. But you mean outright destruction upin foest contact.
So, i somewhat agree, but not exactly with the way you described.
I think the way you described would work against a nation that isnt an industrial and technological powerhouse like China/Russia (Their production capabilites dwarf even those of China currently). So mabye is North Korea attack South Korea. But against China, lets say, that wouldnt work as its military is so big and production so strong that a strictly defensive action wouldnt work, an offensive action however? That might, but that would be very difficult aswell, as it would have to beat Chinese air/missile def, and then hit numerous targets, ranging from military to industrial targets aswell as likely critical infrastructure and governance buildings to completely and effectively neutralise the country. So itd be difficult to say the least.
Its possible that if the defenders completely wipe out the attacking force it will discourage future assualts (what i was referencing initially) but that then depends on the resolve of the nation attacking and how much they need that victory.
I think though, in a large theatre war, completelt destroying an enemy assault on a specific area will deter a secondary follow up assault in the same manner, but it wouldnt end a war or remove the attacking force ability to fight.
To summarise, what you say is possible but only from a strictly offensive stand point. But as far as deterring future assaults on an area, this theory could work. But it wouldnt remove the militaristic capabilities of a nation.
Sorry for the rant but i hope this helps.
@@rileymorrisroe6743 all good, sounds pretty good to me.
@@Pablo668 Glad i could help.