It absolutely isn't malicious, its incompetence and laziness. It becomes malicious when you send them the documentation that they already received prior to the import, that was also included in the package, and challenge their seizure and they still don't bother to read any of the paperwork. It then becomes cowardice and finally shame and admittance when you get a solicitor to send them some expensive letterhead clearly outlining every single violation of their own regulations and the law they've committed in their incompetence and laziness. The move to rename from Customs to Border Force has absolutely been a net negative for the organisation as a whole and any dealings they have with the people they should be serving but aren't.
I had “bayonets” seized several years ago and got them both released when I explained their own rules to them “being a doubled edged blade”. I explained that the M9 is a survival knife/tool.
It's annoying, I can own a dagger no problem but I can't import one.. go figure. I have a mate trying to import bayonets from Italy, over there a bayonet is a firearm. He has to negotiate with the Italian consulate and ambassador for the import of historical firearms... or a box of knives
@@pointynotsharpyou must be in Qld. Can't own daggers in Vic. Had my own issues with Border Force seizing stuff. Confiscated an assisted opening knife. Blade was only one inch long. Wouldn't release a folding stock for a rifle chassis and magazines. Had to get import permits from VicPol. They seemed hopeless and impossible to get a hold of
@Christoph1888 probably because those items are prohibited in other states. Flick knives, are prohibited weapons in NSW and rifles fitted with a folding stock are prohibited firearms. I just wish we had standardised laws Australia wide sometimes, it would make life so much easier
@pointynotsharp folding stocks are only banned in nsw. Firearm components like stocks, scopes, bipods don't even need a gun licence as it's the functional componets of fireamrs that are restricted (barrels, recievers, triggers). None of this stuff should be banned. Border Force are often difficult needlessly. They are despised in the firearms community. We are a Federation, they should have no say, it should be up to the states respective authorities.
So does or did Australia have swathe of bayonetings that forces the govt to "SAVE" the citizens from? Glad we got Trump back jere in the states. Man I hope you get your items safely and undamaged.
IME, you have to hassle them like crazy to contest a wrong decision. Phone every day, hard copy and email everything twice. Call their boss to ask about progress. If you just fill out a form and wait, they will just do nothing until time expires, and destroy your valuable antique. Another instance of having to do a govt. depts. job for them.
This really is a 'no fun allowed' country. Got my pipe tobacco seized and destroyed. And I remember when you could bring in single-sided blades (like Japanese swords) but they've banned even that, in my state at least.
The "M" stamp on the M9 pommel indicates the blade was manufactured by "General Cutlery" It stands for M9/Lancay/USA. It is also found on the ricasso of the blade.
I find the dismissal of the officers actions "as just doing their job" alien and bizarre, I have encountered plenty of capricious and petty border officers. Officers are individuals with training, paid for important duties and responsibilities, not a collective of hapless bureaucrats, corruption and incompetence should be challenged at every step otherwise you will end up a 3rd world country
Last year a Militaria collector in Australia purchased an original Allgemeine SS officers great coat from a US dealer. (This was before the ban on buying selling importing or exchanging ANY item that bears or depicts a swastika or NAZI symbology, I'm not making that up either). Must have cost a fortune. When the package arrived at his house, he opened it to find it had been slashed to ribbons with some kind of box cutter. The insurance investigation established the vandalism would have most likely occurred upon entry into the country. Either Border farce or AQUIS being the most probable suspects.
This raises things to a new (disturbing) level. Border Force and Australia Post have some sort of symbiotic relationship at the entry point, so could have been either. I copped a spray over the phone from an Australia Post employee informing me I shouldn't be allowed to import swords. Which of course, is perfectly legal.
New Zealand post wont deal with any weapons so if you buy a bayonet and get a import permit its a nightmare. i had a arrange a courier company to go to the international mail depo to pick up my bayonet. was very lose to "lost" with paper work, but im thankful i got it. i wont be doing that again though.
Not only are they having to be a jack-of-all-trades looking at all these things..... If one gets through and somebody gets hurt ultimately it falls on them. Both ethically and legally.
I had my automatic knife confiscated this week. A letter was sent stating they have seized it. Unsure whether l should challenge it and try to get it back..
What’s this Papuan bayonet you mentioned, is it from the Dutch Papuan volunteer corps or something from PNG like the New Guinea Volunteer Rifles? And where did you source it if I may ask?
@ZACHARYFRAZIER-w3t you are dead in the money, it's a Dutch Papuan Volunteer Corps bayonet made by AI. I will reveal my source later in the year, once I've had a chance to grab a few other interesting pieces 👍
@@pointynotsharp I'm happy you being a custodian of history were able to 1. find one. 2. recover it from the feds. Such a niche item , the PVK is what formed the basis for the rebel movement in Papua and the mausers and their accoutrements the ones that the rebels didnt take ended up in the arms rooms of POLRI(Indo Nat. Police) to this day those new guinea mausers & bayonets are still used as basic training rifles for new recruits.
@ZACHARYFRAZIER-w3t thanks for the info, I had no idea they were still in use. Sadly I'm still waiting for a response from ABF, it's been a month and a half so far
I wonder if it would possibly help mitigate the risk of seizure if, whenever possible, you could arrange for the shipper to include a printed copy of the Schedule 13 Part 2 exemption for bayonets and include that in the packaging? At the very least, it might prompt the Border Force agent examining the contents to double-check the schedule before making a determination.
Why would anyone confiscate a bayonet!?!? Hey let’s do an exchange, we trade you guys our liberal gun NzS and you guys give us your unwanted law obedient gun lovers.
@jimmy12347654 4 combat tours as a machine gunner, rifleman, and DM. Then most recently, sacrificed a 7 figure career in science, medicine, and bioweapons to oppose tyranny in my own country. In addition to being part of a local militia, in various rolls. Collecting intel on multiple enemies, spending every free second and dollar I have preparing for a civil war, training, arming, and helping others prepare, inside and outside of the militia... and I didn't allow my country to set up con cent ration ca mps in 2021...
@@jimmy12347654 oh, and don't know how I forgot, it all starts to blend together at some point, and you caught me before coffee, but within the past few months we circumvented government forces in order to deliver rescue, aid, and relief to natural disaster victims with our private funds, resources, and manpower.... so what have you done Aussie boi?
"Dispose of it" is a funny way of saying take it home for themself.
It absolutely isn't malicious, its incompetence and laziness.
It becomes malicious when you send them the documentation that they already received prior to the import, that was also included in the package, and challenge their seizure and they still don't bother to read any of the paperwork.
It then becomes cowardice and finally shame and admittance when you get a solicitor to send them some expensive letterhead clearly outlining every single violation of their own regulations and the law they've committed in their incompetence and laziness.
The move to rename from Customs to Border Force has absolutely been a net negative for the organisation as a whole and any dealings they have with the people they should be serving but aren't.
And you keep telling yourselves and your government, after going through all THAT bullshit, that they aren't "malicious". LMFAO!
I had “bayonets” seized several years ago and got them both released when I explained their own rules to them “being a doubled edged blade”.
I explained that the M9 is a survival knife/tool.
As an American, this is an insane concept.
It's annoying, I can own a dagger no problem but I can't import one.. go figure. I have a mate trying to import bayonets from Italy, over there a bayonet is a firearm. He has to negotiate with the Italian consulate and ambassador for the import of historical firearms... or a box of knives
@@pointynotsharpyou must be in Qld. Can't own daggers in Vic. Had my own issues with Border Force seizing stuff. Confiscated an assisted opening knife. Blade was only one inch long. Wouldn't release a folding stock for a rifle chassis and magazines. Had to get import permits from VicPol. They seemed hopeless and impossible to get a hold of
@Christoph1888 probably because those items are prohibited in other states. Flick knives, are prohibited weapons in NSW and rifles fitted with a folding stock are prohibited firearms. I just wish we had standardised laws Australia wide sometimes, it would make life so much easier
@pointynotsharp folding stocks are only banned in nsw. Firearm components like stocks, scopes, bipods don't even need a gun licence as it's the functional componets of fireamrs that are restricted (barrels, recievers, triggers). None of this stuff should be banned. Border Force are often difficult needlessly. They are despised in the firearms community. We are a Federation, they should have no say, it should be up to the states respective authorities.
Unless you live in NY,Commifornia etc
Your government is worried y'all are gonna go all Ned Kelly on em?
Have they banned owning steel sheets and stickwelders yet?
That's nothing, in Canada you basically can't even bring in a folding pocket knife now.
So how do you cut your steak? 🥩 with a dull spoon 🥄?
@@Nunya9876 well folded A3 paper.
Yet the same Customs let the knives they seize from individuals be imported by the thousands by legal knife companies.
@ Shhhh....they'll outlaw paper if they hear about that.
I've imported some pretty sketchy gun parts, magazines & bayonets from Europe. US Customs has opened them all. But they never seized them.
So does or did Australia have swathe of bayonetings that forces the govt to "SAVE" the citizens from? Glad we got Trump back jere in the states. Man I hope you get your items safely and undamaged.
IME, you have to hassle them like crazy to contest a wrong decision. Phone every day, hard copy and email everything twice. Call their boss to ask about progress. If you just fill out a form and wait, they will just do nothing until time expires, and destroy your valuable antique.
Another instance of having to do a govt. depts. job for them.
Are historic daggers banned from import into Australia as well , fairburn-sykes commando knifes for example 🤔 ?
@@johngreen-sk4yk they require an import permit from memory, I've got a mate that brought a few in a while back
This is just the beginning. Next they will ban forks.
As long as they leave my spoon alone I'm fine 🥄
This really is a 'no fun allowed' country. Got my pipe tobacco seized and destroyed. And I remember when you could bring in single-sided blades (like Japanese swords) but they've banned even that, in my state at least.
What a pack of pricks. Tobacco seized?
The "M" stamp on the M9 pommel indicates the blade was manufactured by "General Cutlery" It stands for M9/Lancay/USA. It is also found on the ricasso of the blade.
@@MAC-tv6zq nope, it was placed there by Aussi armourers
@@pointynotsharp America does not outsource its weapons manufacturing.
@@MAC-tv6zq it was made in the US and modified in Australia. I've done a video on it
@ If it was modified it is no longer an M9 bayonet.
Its all pretty confusing. Im trying to find out the rules on a Vietnam era flak jacket and getting a different story each time.
Ah,the M9.....i remember that one.I knew a supply guy that ordered himself a couple.Look cool,but terrible pieces of kit
The USMC OKC bayonet kicks the crap out of the M9
Bayonets have gone from weapons if war to camping tools.
@@MAC-tv6zq yeah 99% of the time you just need it for knife stuff. But that 1% of the time, being able to turn your rifle into a spear is pretty cool
I find the dismissal of the officers actions "as just doing their job" alien and bizarre, I have encountered plenty of capricious and petty border officers. Officers are individuals with training, paid for important duties and responsibilities, not a collective of hapless bureaucrats, corruption and incompetence should be challenged at every step otherwise you will end up a 3rd world country
Yeah it certainly was a cuck bootlicker statement on his behalf.
Overseas visitors already refer to Australia as a 2nd World Country. So, we are on our way.
Last year a Militaria collector in Australia purchased an original Allgemeine SS officers great coat from a US dealer. (This was before the ban on buying selling importing or exchanging ANY item that bears or depicts a swastika or NAZI symbology, I'm not making that up either). Must have cost a fortune. When the package arrived at his house, he opened it to find it had been slashed to ribbons with some kind of box cutter. The insurance investigation established the vandalism would have most likely occurred upon entry into the country. Either Border farce or AQUIS being the most probable suspects.
This raises things to a new (disturbing) level. Border Force and Australia Post have some sort of symbiotic relationship at the entry point, so could have been either.
I copped a spray over the phone from an Australia Post employee informing me I shouldn't be allowed to import swords. Which of course, is perfectly legal.
New Zealand post wont deal with any weapons so if you buy a bayonet and get a import permit its a nightmare. i had a arrange a courier company to go to the international mail depo to pick up my bayonet. was very lose to "lost" with paper work, but im thankful i got it. i wont be doing that again though.
They are pretty strict on bayonets in New Zealand too 🇦🇺 🇳🇿
Not particularly, just requires a little bit of effort. Customs is the difficult one, the Police permit is relatively easy.
Not only are they having to be a jack-of-all-trades looking at all these things..... If one gets through and somebody gets hurt ultimately it falls on them. Both ethically and legally.
I had my automatic knife confiscated this week. A letter was sent stating they have seized it. Unsure whether l should challenge it and try to get it back..
@johno01970 automatic knives or flick knives are illegal in Australia, you will need a permit to own it.
Always try to get your legally obtained property back!
@Nunya9876 the form states you can appeal but if it goes to court and you lose then you pay for all the costs... l know it sucks
@@pointynotsharp thanks for the heads up...
Where I live there are no knife laws. Just laws on when you misuse the knife.
What’s this Papuan bayonet you mentioned, is it from the Dutch Papuan volunteer corps or something from PNG like the New Guinea Volunteer Rifles? And where did you source it if I may ask?
@ZACHARYFRAZIER-w3t you are dead in the money, it's a Dutch Papuan Volunteer Corps bayonet made by AI. I will reveal my source later in the year, once I've had a chance to grab a few other interesting pieces 👍
@@pointynotsharp I'm happy you being a custodian of history were able to 1. find one. 2. recover it from the feds. Such a niche item , the PVK is what formed the basis for the rebel movement in Papua and the mausers and their accoutrements the ones that the rebels didnt take ended up in the arms rooms of POLRI(Indo Nat. Police) to this day those new guinea mausers & bayonets are still used as basic training rifles for new recruits.
@ZACHARYFRAZIER-w3t thanks for the info, I had no idea they were still in use. Sadly I'm still waiting for a response from ABF, it's been a month and a half so far
Thank you for this info, very helpful.
SG42 ..a repro?
@@chrismorgan1336 Sudanese AR10, modelled after the SG42
Right-oh, ta. Bloody interesting.
I lost two usn MK2 combat knives in post really expensive and in mint condition. With no explanation at all.
Yet you can buy bayonets legally all around Australia. You can own daggers in some states. Borderfarce
What is the bayonet at 1:38?
Sudanese AR10 bayonet, very rare bird
Good ole knifey snd spoonie
New Zealand is more restrictive. They consider a bayonet to be a firearm part and all firearms and parts require an import permit.
What’s the one in the middle that resembles a chopped Japanese bayonet?
@@Nick_B_Bad Indonesian M1 garand bayonet, made by Pindad. Very hard to find
So you Admit you traded rights for "security".
I wonder if it would possibly help mitigate the risk of seizure if, whenever possible, you could arrange for the shipper to include a printed copy of the Schedule 13 Part 2 exemption for bayonets and include that in the packaging? At the very least, it might prompt the Border Force agent examining the contents to double-check the schedule before making a determination.
Why would anyone confiscate a bayonet!?!? Hey let’s do an exchange, we trade you guys our liberal gun NzS and you guys give us your unwanted law obedient gun lovers.
Step 1: grow a pair and actually fight for your own freedom in your own country...
Righto freedom fighter, what have you ever done ?
@jimmy12347654 4 combat tours as a machine gunner, rifleman, and DM. Then most recently, sacrificed a 7 figure career in science, medicine, and bioweapons to oppose tyranny in my own country. In addition to being part of a local militia, in various rolls. Collecting intel on multiple enemies, spending every free second and dollar I have preparing for a civil war, training, arming, and helping others prepare, inside and outside of the militia... and I didn't allow my country to set up con cent ration ca mps in 2021...
@@joearledge1 LOL ok champ
@@jimmy12347654 oh, and don't know how I forgot, it all starts to blend together at some point, and you caught me before coffee, but within the past few months we circumvented government forces in order to deliver rescue, aid, and relief to natural disaster victims with our private funds, resources, and manpower.... so what have you done Aussie boi?
@@joearledge1😂😂BS
It's a safer world without you Auzie's having those really pointy and sharp items....pun intended. Did the customs guys skip the bayonet exemption ?
hope you get your country back
So how did 🐊 crocodile Dundee get his KNIFE 🔪 from Australia to New York City and back? 🤔
Going to America, just put it in your check baggage. Same with a firearm.
Make irrelevant videos?
Ha, yeap, don't make a complaint and get into trouble... So they are vindictive arse holes.