You'll be happy to hear I sorted the characters into actual categories this time :) 1:06 - UNSC Characters 57:26 - Covenant Characters 1:10:34 - Banished Characters 1:19:02 - Forerunner Characters 1:30:08 - Flood/Precursor Characters 1:33:12 - Endless Characters
I remember Nathan Fillion saying his face was used to design Buck’s face in Halo 5. He said that during it, he joked about making Buck more attractive and the person he was talking to actually did it.
The man was always ready to die, but he never intended to die alone, or without a fight. And he stayed true to that. In his last moments, he took a Zealot with him.
@@TactWendigo I think it was 2 to be perfectly honest. Still, killing one with a knife after being fatally stabbed by an energy sword is a pretty badass way to go out.
@@kratkartan1486not just that, but the zealots he killed were the same ones that had been tracking Noble the whole game. The same field marshal that you see in the first mission also kills Kat and heads up the team that killed Emile.
Where's Foehammer? Her absence definitely hurt. As much as i love Dubbo and Stacker, she really is the heart & soul of the UNSC presence on Alpha Halo.The fact that you don't see her in person adds this sense of mystery to her character, meaning her entire character is brought to life through her voice and actions, and she perfects it! Foehammer has a perfect balance between her level headed determination as a UNSC pilot and her sassy personality. She's willing to push the limits of her skills as a pilot to get the Chief where he needs time and time again, until the very end. Hell, even when Chief was reflecting upon the loss of the Autumn's crew in Infinite, i couldn't help but think of Foehammer alongside Keyes. She's by far the most memorable dropship pilot and hell, one of the most memorable characters in the franchise.
Ah yeah true, tbh like I said there are other characters I could've included like Foehammer/Del Rio/Exuberant etc., but I wanted to make sure the vid didn't end up being *too* long, it took me like 30 hours to edit as is haha
I always imagined Kat died so randomly because she always had a plan, was always prepared and always seemed to be able to predict what was going to happen next. The suddenness and randomness of it all really juxtaposed how she was as a character. Hopefully you see this, Xperia. Love the videos.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Why? The Didact is cool and underused, The Created are quite interested and underused, and the Endless are a breath of fresh air away from the Flood.
I agree with almost everything here except one, Atriox deserves to go above Tartarus. Atriox is everything Tartarus desperately wanted to be. Atriox forged his own path, accepted the lie of the Great Journey, and brought strength, power, and independence to the Brutes. Tartarus was too obsessed with being a good little servant to ever become like a man that was Atriox, who since last we saw him, is still breaking new grounds...
A good character isn't built on their accomplishments neccesarily, it's also their shortcomings. Yes Atriox has done far more in narrative terms, but Tartarus was written with flaws as well as a fully fleshed-out character usually is.
I agree. As cool as Tartarus was, he didn’t really add anything. To most people, he was just another Brute, just whiter fur and he talked to arbiter a bit.
@@pepsidoggy Another cool thing about Tartarus was when Arbiter told him how the prophets had betrayed all of them, Tartaric has a crisis of faith and for a moment looks like he may ally with the Arbiter but unfortunately doubles down on his delusions.
Noble 6 being you is such a good concept and idea along with the rookie which I love so much. When noble 6 died in reach I felt like I had died. I felt the characters and was allowed to be them. Such a good idea and I love them both.
@@grantfuller6123 you mean where they made him an actual character and more like his vastly Superior book counterpart? I'm mean Master Chief in the bungee games was nothing more than just a self insert that spews one-liners every once in awhile. While Halo 4 Chief is an actual character with actual feelings and actually respects the book material while Bungie just wipe their asses with it( the inferior version of the Fall Of Reach AKA Halo Reach)
I think Noble 6 ranks higher than Master Chief in my opinion for this reason. In Infinite I rock the Mark V (B) helmet because Noble 6 resonated with me so much, even as an almost silent protagonist. Halo Reach was almost peak Halo campaign story telling! I get chills just thinking about Noble Team and their story
I just met Steve downes and Jen Taylor today and man what an experience their voices are so surreal in person. You look at them as regular people but see characters at the same time it’s undefinable.
Show Chief: has sex Game Chief: doesn’t have sex. I mean, it’s clear here who’s the superior one lol (Also he’s clearly not dead since they have to do something in the second season...)
I actually have an argument to make on Evil Cortana's behalf in regards to her destroying Doisac, I actually think she was actually NOT condemning the Jiralhanae species to extinction, but rather trying to recreate them. In fact, I think there is evidence to suggest that she followed her speech from Halo 5 to the letter. She said to those who resist that "There will be a great wrath, it will burn hot and consume you, and when you are gone, *we will take that which remains, and we will remake it on our own image."* - A lot of people myself included, thought she was talking about using the Composers, we now know that isnt true, but what if she was actually talking about using the *Cylixes of Zeta Halo?* The strongest bit of evidence for this comes from the Silent Auditorium, its walls are lined with Brute Cylixes. How did those get there? How could Atriox command Forerunner systems to bring them there? He didnt. it was Cortana. She was planning on wiping out the current Brutes, then using Brute Cylixes to recreate the Brute species under her guidance!
Holy schmoly, that's actually a brilliant theory! I feel like these little details about Cortana scattered throughout Infinite's campaign help to alleviate the issues I had with her characterization in H5, and I think it's a real shame that they are not brought out more in the general discussion.
@@philippedesjardins9484 It also explains why she was so violent even to Humans who were on planets where Guardians were waking up, if the Human population ever got too low, she could just reseed them with Cylixes!
I agree. The Arbiter is the best character of Halo and in gaming. I loved him since I started playing Halo as a kid. Such a shame 343i barely brings him back anymore. We want the Arbiter back! We want playable Elites back!
I'd love to have a Arbiter Campaign where you fight the Covenant Splinter groups after they have joined the Created for protection. Arbiter VS Sali'Nyon fight plz
The one placement I'll disagree with was Jul Mdama. I think the books gave him a very unique character. Jul was a Sangheili unbound by the traditional honor and arrogance of his kin. Who managed to break free of the stereotypes and religion of his species of his own accord. A Sangheili who would lie, cheat, scheme and do whatever was required to reach his goal. He represented one of the most 'Human' Elite characters in the franchise, and I believe that made him very compelling to read. His main interactions with humanity beyond the Covenant/Human war was ONI. He experienced humanity at its worst and that shapes his view of the whole species, which is why he believed that Humans would be a threat to the Sangheili and aided in creating what eventually became the Storm Covenant. The games ruined Jul, making him out to be just another big, evil brute. That's the real tragedy. A or S character for me, easily. On a side tangent, I can never forget the scene in the books while Jul is imprisoned by ONI and he talks about the human smile: The action of baring one's teeth to express joy or lack of hostility - an action that is used as a warning or show of hostility by most other species.
After they killed him off so lazily I've always had a pipe dream of him having used a body double to trick ONI. If there EVER would be an elite to use a body double, it would be Jul. I've always imagined him having foreseen his failure and made preparations to disappear. Now, lurking in the shadows he makes new plans and prepares for another shot at revenge against humanity, and more specifically - ONI, for all the ways they have wronged him. I can imagine him using the news of his death to his advantage, claiming that the forerunners returned him to life to lead his people. I know it's a pure pipe dream but man would I love 343 to have given Jul a better chance than they gave him in 5. That was such an insulting end to such a cool character.
Personal theory, I don't think Jega died, you can see he goes invisible right after you defeat him. He-big container of salt maybe-could have narrowly escaped with injuries, and just dropped his energy sword doing so
I don't think Escharum gets enough credit. Yeah his dialogue can get pretty repetitive and some additional backstory would work wonders, but his concept alone makes him one of my favorite villains in the franchise: An elderly, battle-scarred brute who wants nothing more than a proper warrior's send-off; either the legend beats him, or he lies on his death bed with feat on his name. He sends armies and Spartan Killers after the Chief, KNOWING they would lose (and if they didn't, Chief wouldn't be the legendary opponent he was looking for). Tactically efficient, studying the attributes and weaknesses of his foes, which ends up playing a significant role in his boss fight. It's all very much indicated throughout the game, but is fairly easy to miss, which is why I think he gets undermined so much.
I really hope that even in death Escharum and the Harbinger have a heavy hand in the play. Escharum’s final words becoming true and the Banished forces on the ring unite and are determined to hunt Chief and the rest of humanity down (and hopefully a mechanic that if you don’t rescue a FoB or destroy a Banished base will increase the patrol of the region). And with the Harbinger she’ll serve as a Jesus Christ sort of roll to the endless like “She died so us can live” sort of deal like a little return to religious symbolism that the games have. I really hope this general direction is taken. 🤞🤞
The Harbinger is clearly precursor related. She looks precursor. She speaks in the same way that the gravemind does and even says some of the same lines. If she's anything other than a relative of the precursors then I'll be disappointed.
She also has the ability to use the logic plague in the new halo novel Rubicon Protocol if the gravemind like lines aren't proof enough the fckin logic plague for sure is for all the halo fans saying that the harbinger has no relation to precursors. Haven't seen very many of them spout nonsense since that book came out.
Arbiter 1 and MC 2. Saying this before watching the whole video. Arbiters dialogue in H2 is unbeatable, as is his character’s journey and development. Absolutely unmatched
AND IT JUST KEEPS COMING ! This man cannot be stopped. Yet another banger friendo ! Hope you’re not getting too burnt out making these mega videos 👌. Though they sure are brilliant!
Haha thanks dude, nah I don't tbh, I love editing, I find it so chill and satisfying so I can happily sit there for 15+ hours editing afking runescape on my other monitor day in day out haha
@@HiddenXperia Dude. That is the life. Lol. I wish you had a channel talking about what you do on RS. I’m getting back into it and would love some motivation.
Just a side note, in the french dubbed version there was a problem for cortana, when she answer "Shoot" to the grave mind, the traductor literarly translated it to shooting but the verb for shooting a weapon. I remember as a kid not understanding the end of halo 2 thinking Cortana Used the Halo
Also, I'm a bit disappointed by all the characters you left out; Foe Hammer, Bisenti, Mendoza, Jenkins, the "Wait for me!" crewman, YipYap the Grunt, Phillip the Flood, Harry the Hunter, Jackie the Jackal, the Prophet of Denial, and so many more...
Lasky is like the anakin skywalker of halo. He may be a commander/general, but he's not afraid to go onto the front lines and get his hands dirty. Absolute Chad
I mean, Laskey is a lot more reserved, hopeful, and cheery than Anakin. He was always quite serious and kinda dark. He is closer to Locke or maybe even Halo Wars Arbiter.
Carter’s introduction was telling Noble 6 to leave the lone wolf stuff behind His final words was telling Noble 6 (and Emile) that they’re on their own. I always loved how every death in noble team reflected their characters, Jorge saying he’d never leave reach but dies on a ship away from the planet, kat being the tech specialist but dying due to a shield malfunction, Emile living by the sword only to die to one, and finally noble 6 starting Spartan life as a lone wolf, and ending it as a lone wolf. Even Jun, the only survivor of noble team was the sniper, who tend to stay away from the battlefield survived by being away from the final fight of reach, just goes to show how well written Halo: Reach was.
Lord Hood is one of my favorite characters. The amount of trust he places in Chief is awesome and he's an absolutely fantastic leader. Of course his voice acting is amazing as well, since Ron Perlman voiced him, but all that combined just makes his character truly fantastic to me. Chief kinda does his own thing these days and doesn't take crap from bad CO's anymore, but I'm willing to bet that after what he and Lord Hood have went through together, Chief would still follow Hood to hell and back. To me, Lord Hood was one of the key elements to Bungie's Halo games, so I really hope we get to see him again some day. It would hit me right in the nostalgia if he does come back and become Chief's main CO again
A couple of weeks ago I was watching Princess Mononoke on Netflix with my brother. One of the characters in that movie, the boar god, Okkoto-nushi said the word “demon” and at the same time my brother and I looked at each other and said, “Wait, was that the Arbiter?!” Sure thing, the character was voiced by none other then Keith David himself. It was such a cool moment, as if he hadn’t said that one word, we wouldn’t have realised at all that they were voiced by the same person.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 I still have headcannon of her being a fragment of the original that’s Logic Plagued. It’s completely Copium but I think it makes sense at least
@@afro117icarus5 No, that doesnt make any sense at all. Thats a theory just as bad as "The ENdless are only a threat because wat if Floood infected them!??!" - its a lazy and boring way to shoehorn the Flood into everything. Why the Hell would Cortana be infected by the Logic Plague, AFTER being cured by the Domain? She was literally promoting the Forerunner philosophy made to fight off the Flood! Not only that, she even debunks this theory in Halo Infinite! "The Flood? Why would I?" oh, and finally, the new Halo Encyclopedia heavily implies that the Xalanyn are immune to the Flood. I wonder why?
Miranda I think was kind of a wasted character tbh. She was solid enough in halo 2, but in halo 3 it wasn’t good. Also her death was pretty bad from a logic standpoint. She’s in with literally no support what so ever. Although halo CE was pretty simple in plot and world building, even then Jacob Keys had a squad of marines with him! It just makes Miranda look stupid. Honestly I kinda wish she survived and have her be a bridge character between halo 3 and halo 4. Imagine how crazy it would be to find out it’s her in control of Infinity, and maybe having Lasky being her second in command.
Bungie had to make Miranda stupid because they wrote themselves into a corner. If she had backup anyone she brought with her would instantly put a cap in truth's head and thus the arbiter wouldn't get his revenge.
@@mariobadia4553 the only plot reason Miranda seems to contribute with her death is give Johnson a way out of this scene. Which seems silly. Surly they could’ve wrote it to have the player escort Johnson out of room, right?
The Weapon’s characterisation was spot on and extremely well done by 343. It felt like Chief was teaching a new player to Halo. Her charm and innocence in the beginning and then the development into a slightly cynical and serious person was pretty much perfect. Regarding the Arbiter, he is the MOST HUMAN character despite being an alien from a culture starkly different from humans. Also, Jega doesn’t have a dead body. It disappears. Which is weird because every other Infinite boss had a body, but not him. Something tells me that he is still alive and may come back as Punished Jega
I like how you ain’t too bungi biased. Some halo fans purposely sleep on the 343 halo games especially halo 4’s campaign cuz of its art style and sprint but I love halo 4’s campaign and I’m like you how I can’t pick wether I like a vocal or one liner master chief
Yea halo 4 is shit on way too hard I get not liking the art and gameplay but the story was really good and set up the next trilogy great, they just threw it away and flopped hard with halo 5
I like how all deaths of the noble team are ironic for their personality Carter - a Captain which died to save his team Kat - the genius outsmarted by the covenant shot in her brain June - not dead but as mysterious as he was his destiny was unknown in the game Emile - a badass which died in a badass way Jorge - a big man killed by something bigger than him Noble 6 - a lone wolf put in a team which in the end died all alone by him/herself
@@ShadowCompany01 Jun was more than that actually. He was the Head Recruiter, and a Trainer for the Spartan IVs, as well as being the acting Chief of Staff for the Spartans, being the overall second in command of them. But the station he was last seen on got destroyed in the Created Conflict by the A.I Leonidas, which is why him being alive or not is unknown.
50:25 The exact opposite of me. Halos ships are my favorite thing in the franchise. Each faction has their own unique ships, though they might copy one design that has proven itself as very effective (Kerel pattern = Sh'wada pattern; Ket pattern = Zanar pattern). At this point Halos ships might be the one thing still leading me to not leave it behind
The former I'm admittedly fine, since his name always had the initials "J.D." since the Bungie days, but yeah, why kill him off? Also, why make Mickey a damn Innie? Sure, it makes sense, but it would have been nice if he stayed loyal to the UNSC due to seeing the multiple crimes the Innies made over the years.
man...can you believe that we're gonna be 30 when the next halo comes out now.....this series will always have a special part in my heart. even if halo 4-5 werent up to par with the way the story should have gone, so much lost potential within those 2 games. nonetheless the continuation gave us so much lore to dive into, i love you all, ill see you in the next game.....and in the next
Just wanna remind you that the Didact is not dead. Getting hit with the composers did only digitize him. He's still alive but shelved. They should have kept him arround.
I just finished Divine Wind and I’d highly recommend reading it. Has many cool characters and sets up a lot of possibilities for the future and teases where some of the missing characters from infinite might be.
As much as people love to hate Halo these days you are right. Chief is one of the icons of gaming and did it in such a short time frame which makes it even more impressive.
Flood Jenkins should have been on the tier list as well. Because of him, the survivors of the Pillar of Autumn did not take the repaired Truth and Reconciliation infested with Flood back to Earth.
My only wish for Johnson was instead of saying "Kick his ass" during the Spark fight, he'd instead sometimes tell Chief to "Shake the lightbulb" Miss this man daily xD
I feel like Escharum is really underated and misunderstood. I always interpreted that he wanted the master chief to get has far has he did to get him excited. Where he almost cared more about getting a warriors death than the success/survival of the banished.
He annoyed me too much. If he more more cutscenes I could see myself liking him. Unfortunately, 90% of the time you see him he is a hologram yelling and monologing.
"I'm gonna put Tartarus in the middle of A tier" Proceeds to put Tartarus in the middle of S tier XD regardless, loving these tier videos. Eager to see if we get a MGS one after the Halo ones are over
For the hectic leader in the halo: Encyclopedia it said this In the years following the war, Arbiter Thel 'Vadamee sought to recognize 'Refumee's efforts in changing the course of their species for the better, granting special dispensation to the members of 'Refum keep in the Swords of Sanghelios. I think Jul was wasted.
I'll never understand how the Arbiter got so much hate back when Halo 2 released. It was a completely different experience playing as a member of the covenant, learning that they were a religion than just your typical alien invaders like they were branded in Halo CE. Learning all that information playing as Master Chief 100% of the time wouldn't have felt the same.
I loved it. I did enjoy Chief’s levels more, but I loved the Arbiter and his story, and didn’t enjoy Halo 2 flood levels nearly as much as Halo 1 flood levels.
I loved it as well, people hated him because it took away from Chief. So I guess 343 thought it would be a great idea to do the same thing but moreso and with a much less interesting character. (Halo 5)
That's because the Halo Community with the same back then as it is now full of a bunch of whiny man children in fact that pissed because someone else got the Limelight instead of the giant Green virgin.
People already have this sentiment about the Didact, and soon about all 343i games. As you grow older, you stop caring why you got so angry, rather, you get confused why you were at all.
I still think Jega is alive, when you "kill" him in the boss fight the second his body hits the ground it cloaks. To me this highly suggests that Chief damn near killed him, but he cloaked and barely managed to slip out like the stealth edge lord he is. Praying hard we get more of him and hes revealed to be alive in dlc.
Unfortunately that was most likely due to it being rated T and censorship. But I do fully believe him cloaking and slipping away is my definitive head cannon
Maybe he can take over the Banished now that The Hand of Atriox, Atriox himself, and Escharum are all dead, making Jega the highest-ranking living member of the Banished.
Hey Hidden, I just wanted to say I really enjoyed this video. I don't know much about Halo's expanded lore, but even the things I thought I knew about Halo's characters and story were just enhanced with every one of your rankings. You managed to go in and out of games, novels, easter eggs, comics, etc. to explain every character's background and appeal in such a fun and uncomplicated way. I learned so much from this video, and I have a renewed appreciation and respect for Halo's lore. Thanks dude.
I think noble 6 should have been higher just because I find how deadly he was, his entire persona and backstory is just so cool, I would have put him around mid-top a tier
You do know that backstory is not Cannon right? Oh so he's not even a character he's a self insert. Then there's the fact that well he has no personality whatsoever. It's the same thing with the rookie and why 343 off since they couldn't do anything with a blank slate
The thing that always gets me about Keys is how he died and what Halsey always said about him. She would always say that he knew how to keep a secret and he died mentally fighting to keep information away from the the flood. He pretty much died keeping secrets
I love the Gravemind as a character so much but I just wish some of the cut lines from Halo 3 were kept, would have made the character a bit more grey to me and actually raises a decent moral dilemma.
I 100% agree with Master Chiefs' character in Halo Infinite being one of the best. It was such a great campaign, and I only wish they made the campaign longer and had more environments and a larger map.
In my opinion, the Didact being Composed was his perfect sentence for his crimes. He became so hateful towards Humanity and so obsessed with Composing Humanity, committing genocide to their bodies and torture to their minds, it only makes sense that he himself suffers that fate and loses is prestige totle of "Last Living Forerunner" I'd love to see him come back as his Halo 5 Concept Art version, a Promethean through and through. He deserves that fate.
Wow my list is basically the same. I'd put Lasky in S+ just Because I did enjoy Forward unto Dawn a lot and he was my favorite character in all of Halo 4 and I hope we see him Return in Infinite DLC or the next Halo game but actually have a bigger role to play but please 343 don't you ever try to Kill him off. I'm probably going to have a big meltdown if that happens
We need a ‘battle of jakku’ type of scenario at zeta halo with the spirit of fire, blue team, infinity crew, fireteam Osiris, and everyone else vs the banished. That would bring closure to the zeta halo conflict and could introduce the endless.
As somebody else who loves Emile; I think Reach's Firefight voice description sums up Emile perfectly. "He doesn't want to win the war,he wants the enemy to die"
You're forgetting one thing about having the arbiter back as an infinite DLC. That would require 343 to add playable elites. Something I think they avoid almost out of spite at this point.
How I would’ve wrote Jul M’Dama would’ve started very different then when we first see him. In Halo 4 he would be a main character and ally to not only Chief, but as a general in the Swords of Sanghelios. But he is fascinated by the Forerunners and their technology. At one point in the game he’s captured by the Didact. When he’s captured he starts off hating the Didact, but becomes fascinated and by him and his technology. When Chief “kills him” he is grateful he was saved but at the same time wishes he could learn more. The legendary ending of the game shows him slowly turning evil and is corrupted by the technology and history of the Forerunners. In Halo 5 we start the game fighting with Jul. At the end he betrays us, leaves, and it’s been revealed he’s been serving a someone for sometime. Later in the game it’s been revealed he’s been serving the Didact who’s still alive. And the main enemy faction in the game will be Prometheans and Promethean/Covenant Hybrids. The Didact will play a similar role to Truth with The Warden Eternal being his personal bodyguardand Jul serving a role similar to Tartarus and as Didact’s protégé. The Didact would replace Cortana but written better. And the Didact would be the main villain of Halo Infinite. And near the end of Infinite he would meet his end at the hands of the Chief.
Luc is blessing us with all this Halo content 🙌 Edit: I want Spartan ponchos/blankies in Halo Infinite! Also, webbing and ghillie suits would be awesome
Iambic pentameter.... as a actor trained to study Shakespeare I never thought I'd hear that phrase used on a halo video, loved the list man, been a long time sub love the positive energy you pump into this community and as a fellow brit I salute you.
Your Channel is absolutely splendid! Just recently discovered your channel as I came back to Halo Infinite with Season 5 and I’ve been enjoying it greatly, and especially with your content to help me dive deeper into the Halo Lore! Thank you!🙌🏽💫
I'm REALLY tied with Noble 6 and Arbiter. Both are such fantastic characters, with incredible power and importance in the canon! Also, Johnson is like 70 years old. Absolute badass.
@@MetalMilitia83 without noble 6 then Master Chief never gets Cortana🤷🏻♂️ almost no bigger turning point than that, however I agree that overall the Arbiter is better
You should make an updated video on the meddlers! To me, that little snippet in the CEA terminals where they crash on alpha halo and the bit where they may have had something to do with the releasing of the flood on delta halo, is without a doubt THE most interesting and mysterious thing in all of halo lore.
1:15:53 I don’t believe that he died in his fight with Master Chief, the encyclopedia hints at his survival by not stating his death and his body cloaks after you defeat him, he is an Ex Silent Shadow after all.
I was excited to hear your opinion of the arbiter from the beginning of the video, and it was totally worth the wait. I’m glad you agree that he’s such an amazing character and quite possibly one of the very best that video games have to offer.
It wasn't because they needed more pay, it was because the people who paid them (which was a union, as far as I know) just didn't give much of a darn for their efforts, among other scandalous reasons.
I remember back then i used to be so annoyed that Master Chief did most Halo missions alone without a team. Like it just didn’t make sense to me him doing such high stakes “saving the universe” level missions solo. But then I think about how insane all the things he’s done and that bringing a team for Chief would just slow him down or they would die 5 seconds in if he brought people
I really liked Miranda in H2 but they wasted her in the final moments of Halo 3. Her death, whilst good conceptually for story telling drama, was handled poorly and the rationale behind it could’ve been executed way better. It isn’t explained why she’s on her own to stop the rings and save Johnson. I get that Chief is not close enough to stop Truth but I don’t understand why the primary Commander is going in a Pelican, alone, with zero marine escort. That being said, I will give credit for how Bungie reversed the roles of Sgt Johnson coming in to rescue Miranda at the last moment like in Halo 2’s index cutscene.
That's the one thing I really hate about Halo 3s story. They're alone on an alien construct with only one commander, it just makes no sense. It almost seemed like she wanted to die.
@@allent1152 she wasn't meant to originally show up in the first drafts of the story, but a couple of new drafts and reworks later, under recommendation form Marty, they decided they needed some important character deaths to add more emotional impact in the game, so they decided to kill johnson and Miranda.
Honestly, going into the Halo books I expected Chief to be very boring and out of place, but he ended up being extremely enjoyable and stole the show every time he was on the page. I love Fred a lot, but he can't carry a book on his own so I actually ended up missing Master Chief whenever he wasn't present.
You know, I think this video atually made me realize kinda what's missing in Infinite's campaign. It's the lack of friendly npcs. Like yeah we have tons of marines and everything but we've got no recurring named friendly npc's in the story. Even in halo 1 we had keyes, Johnson, 343 guilty spark, and the like. Friendly npc's that are important to the story, and main characters in their own right, but not overshadowing Chief/us as THE main character. Where as in halo 5, the npc's were too much, and all of the npcs felt like they were trying to overshadow us/chief.
they also seem.. so dead? they never have conversations. You'd think in a map so big they'd be chock full of dialog, but nope. No back and forths like were present in other games, no dialogue that's a bit more unpredictable. They join master chief at the hip and have almost nothing unique to do or say. One starts to talk and the other will tell them to focus, instead of those quips you'd often hear between 2 characters.
@@NotALotOfColonial_SpaghettiToG Yeah, one of my favorite lines you'd get were the ones from the marines if you stare at em for a second, or when you take a power weapon, they'd sass the hell out of you... Now they just feel very dead in the sense that they don't feel very alive, or immersive. I miss those little details that made it feel like the marines were real people, and not just programs there to point and shoot at the enemies doing the same thing.
Been saying that from the beginning. Infinite is so damn lonely. There are no background activities. No other missions, sorties, etc. No one anywhere doing anything....
I always felt that John Forge could and should have been a Spartan. Imagine if they made him somehow survive his sacrifice and he became the a Spartan IV and the leader of them taking Palmers place. Heck, he could even have been a Gen 2 or 3
In my opinion you’re way undervaluing Kurt as a character. I think he is easily more interesting than everyone in blue team and noble team (except maybe chief). Ghosts of onyx paints him as such a complex character with how he lost 2 entire divisions of Spartan 3’s and what lengths he will go to to keep them alive (the brain augmentations) and how he is kind of cursed by that decision. Him having moral discussions with Halsey about this and keeping the secret of his survival secret from all his brothers and sisters. It was also really cool how he wore the SPI armor instead of the mjolnir just to show that he is the same as his students. And his death was unbelievably badass. Definitely an S+ tier character.
I'd put mickey on top of dare. Possibly even S because all the info of him being the son of innies and him being unable to let go his love for his parents. Also, thr fact that he only ever fought aliens and wasn't born when humans fought humans is even more interesting. Actually should be S tier.
Halsey isn't a gray character, I think she's straight up evil. It's not fair to give her credit for the heroic deeds and sacrifices of the Spartans just because she created them. Imagine being kidnapped at age 6, experimented on against your will, then when YOU sacrifice yourself to defend innocent people, people give Halsey the credit for saving humanity because you were *"her Spartan."*
Yeah I think I'm agreeing with that take more and more. Good outcomes of bad intensions and all that. She didn't create the Spartan program to save humanity, she did it to brutally crush insurrection - the morality of rebellion being another matter entirely - but low and behold; the Spartans coincidentally turned out to be exactly what it took to stop the covenant. Funny how it all worked out.
@@asiberiantiger188 She did that to save a fracturing humanity. The Innie-UEG War was taking a massive toll on humanity, so she did what no one else was able or willing to in order to bring things to a halt. She is on par with Gordon Freeman's relationship to the Vortigaunt: loved and hated, necessary and excessive.
Yeah it sucks but if actually happened for real all the events in exact order id want it to happen fuck genocide. People liking Halsey isn't any different from any civilian loving any big gov they live under. Humans are terrible just cause you don't see anything bad happening doesn't mean it isn't.
Hold up, I thought Spark just took over Bastion and is just escaping the guardian? Didn't the old keeper, Keeper of Tools, go to seed the precursors with Eden not Spark? Therefore Spark is still in the milk way looking after Bastion since Halo 5 events
I have been saying for years the Didact needs to be retconned back into the franchise as a character (of redemption). Starting off initially as hostile, then over the course of time, he becomes a reluctant ally of humanity as he and his Prometheans battle the Flood/Endless/Precursors while Master Chief carriers out his assaults against the banished. The Didact eventually going out like a hero, and passing on the Mantle of Responsibility to Chief and Humanity, closing off his story arc as a hero to all.
My hot take is cortana at b tier. She is fun but not very interesting to me. I just thought she was too much of the "do this objective" in the original trilogy. Halo 4 improved her for me but halo 5 killed it for me.
I've been thinking about the halo franchise for a while and don't really have anyone i know that also plays it sooooo apologies, I'm going to drop my thoughts here. Halo was such a fun game as a kid that the franchise entered my top 4 of all time. Gears, halo, mass effect, assassins creed. The rule of my top 4? any new games that come out, i buy. Now i cant say I was too big on halos story, being a kid who focused on the gameplay i honestly didnt have a clue what the story was until i replayed while older so what draws me into the series is the stellar gameplay in the campaign (loooot of splitscreen coop with brothers growing up). Now every series has it's ups and downs and for halo, god i really disliked halo 4, the robots sucked to play against, was not as fun (i know they arent called robots, just bear with me). halo 5 i really liked the gameplay, is was so polished that it would be my fave game if we hadnt fought the same boss over and over and over again throughout the game. Playing on the hardest difficulty is already annoying enough when you see a boss like 30 times before you pull it off. But then when you fight the same boss multiple times in a game but they multiply their number its like.... ok i get it, please stop. Still, despite my greivances with the boss' in halo 5 I liked the gameplay so much that for the first time ever I played ranked multiplayer reguarly. Up until this point the only shooters i played were singleplayer or pve multiplayer so i was SO BAD, people dont move predictably like bots so i had to learn how to actually play all over again. Halo 5 was the game that got me to actually play so much that i climbed to the top of diamond, just shy of onyx and honestly i was still improving, noticing i was reguarly playing against and beating onyx players when overwatch game out and i switched. I truly credit halo 5 for being the reason i opened up the genre's i exclusively played and started trying new things. The point of this long ramble is that Halo is finally close to dropping out of my top 4 series. It's basically just nostalgia holding it up now. halo 4 had a campaign i didnt like, 5 had a campaign i liked but was very very repetitive with bosses, infinite has a campaign i havnt even played yet because i insist on the first time always being coop and i cant even do that yet!!! 3 games with campaigns I would not rate as top tier experiences means the last time I played a main title i enjoyed was reach in 2010.... 12 years is a long time, plenty of amazing games have come out in that time and as new series deliver consistent success the halo franchise is starting to slip, even with nostalgia on it's side I just can't keep it top 4 much longer. Regarding the multiplayer, got to say i dont enjoy infinite one bit. At all. Halo 5 was better. Infinite is basically halo 3. But I am not here to play a remaster 15 year old multiplayer game. It irks me that 1) The combat is slower without the forward, backward, sideways jets, it feels more like 'whoever shoots first wins' (assuming 100% hits), there is less room for counterplay when you get engaged upon. 2) The weapon you start with in infinite is always the battle rifle in ranked. IT GETS SO OLD!!! I understand you want to have an even playing field for skill sake but god almighty this isnt the best halo player, this is the best battle rifle player! the best trigger finger! how is this fun? I did climb to the top of diamond pretty easily but I got too bored to keep playing, it sucks not being able to even slightly customise your initial loadout and then having to run the same paths every single time because you need to path through a weapon you want to equip. It sucks always having a shootout with battle rifled in the middle of the map instead of switching it up and sometimes rushing in with pistols or assault rifles. I got so good at the battle rifle that when i play any other mode that isnt ranked I get curb stomped because i've got absolutely no practice with any weapons in the game outside the rifle. It is so sad to have to say that halo rank isnt a reflection of your still with all the weapons in the game, but a reflection of your battle rifle skill and ability to control weapon spawns. It's a shame that the next halo game will be the first i wait for a sale (or good reviews) before i jump in. Waiting a whole year just to coop the campaign for the first time is honestly, a series killer in my eyes. Time for new games to replace the old in my top 4. Apologies to anyone who actually read the wall of text. it's many years of thoughts packed into one place :) Enjoy your day! Oh, P.s. The halo wars games are phenomenal. Being a fan of the old age of empires games I love this halo style and the cutscenes are on point. Halo wars 2 was a gem for the halo franchise in the past decade.
You'll be happy to hear I sorted the characters into actual categories this time :)
1:06 - UNSC Characters
57:26 - Covenant Characters
1:10:34 - Banished Characters
1:19:02 - Forerunner Characters
1:30:08 - Flood/Precursor Characters
1:33:12 - Endless Characters
Sargent Johnson deserves his own tiers list, the "Sargent Avery Kicking Alien Butt Lady Charmer Johnson"
I love long vids, thenks for making this, and when it comes to the summer sun in england, Yea I hate it too, I wish winter would come sooner.
If chips dubbo doesn’t get s++++++ I’m unsubscribing
You mentioned so many actors and didn't include pictures of any of them
Where are the halo TV show characters
I remember Nathan Fillion saying his face was used to design Buck’s face in Halo 5. He said that during it, he joked about making Buck more attractive and the person he was talking to actually did it.
Oh yeah I actually remember that haha
Lmfao
One of my favorite things 343 did: Make Buck a Spartan.
You think he looks like Cayde-6 before he got transformed into an Exo?
Wait... he wasn't already designed after him?!
Emiles final words are "I'm ready, how bout you?!" And that alone made me love his character.
It's another great visual reminder of just how huge the elites are. And he still goes right back at 'em!
The man was always ready to die, but he never intended to die alone, or without a fight. And he stayed true to that. In his last moments, he took a Zealot with him.
@@kratkartan1486 I'm pretty sure it is 3 or 4 zealots. I'm working on old memories. Lol
@@TactWendigo I think it was 2 to be perfectly honest. Still, killing one with a knife after being fatally stabbed by an energy sword is a pretty badass way to go out.
@@kratkartan1486not just that, but the zealots he killed were the same ones that had been tracking Noble the whole game. The same field marshal that you see in the first mission also kills Kat and heads up the team that killed Emile.
Where's Foehammer? Her absence definitely hurt. As much as i love Dubbo and Stacker, she really is the heart & soul of the UNSC presence on Alpha Halo.The fact that you don't see her in person adds this sense of mystery to her character, meaning her entire character is brought to life through her voice and actions, and she perfects it! Foehammer has a perfect balance between her level headed determination as a UNSC pilot and her sassy personality. She's willing to push the limits of her skills as a pilot to get the Chief where he needs time and time again, until the very end. Hell, even when Chief was reflecting upon the loss of the Autumn's crew in Infinite, i couldn't help but think of Foehammer alongside Keyes. She's by far the most memorable dropship pilot and hell, one of the most memorable characters in the franchise.
Heaven
Ah yeah true, tbh like I said there are other characters I could've included like Foehammer/Del Rio/Exuberant etc., but I wanted to make sure the vid didn't end up being *too* long, it took me like 30 hours to edit as is haha
@@HiddenXperia Del Rio would have made D tier lol
Ah, no worries! Loved your list and i am looking forward to your weapon tier list! Please drink plenty of water during this heat wave!
@@HiddenXperia so where would you rank her then?
I only just noticed recently that Carters demeanor in how he talks slowly changes as the game goes on. By the final levels. He just sounds done.
He just kinda gets depressed and defeated. It’s a great touch
The flaws of leadership in increasingly lost causes.
@@michaelandreipalon359 And when all your friends and family are dying around you, what else can you do besides just give in, it's sad
I always imagined Kat died so randomly because she always had a plan, was always prepared and always seemed to be able to predict what was going to happen next. The suddenness and randomness of it all really juxtaposed how she was as a character. Hopefully you see this, Xperia. Love the videos.
"I know we're losing the war. I wanna know if we've lost the war."
"I saw it too, it looked like a Temple. If i were a megalomaniac, *and im not,* thats where i'd be!"
-Cortana, Halo 2
*This line has not aged well.*
6 years later… turns in to a megalomaniac
Just headcanon the majority of the 343 stuff out and be done with it.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Why? The Didact is cool and underused, The Created are quite interested and underused, and the Endless are a breath of fresh air away from the Flood.
She did come from Halsey
@@jakespacepiratee3740 Didact was basically a Sith Lord shoved into Halo lol
I agree with almost everything here except one, Atriox deserves to go above Tartarus. Atriox is everything Tartarus desperately wanted to be. Atriox forged his own path, accepted the lie of the Great Journey, and brought strength, power, and independence to the Brutes. Tartarus was too obsessed with being a good little servant to ever become like a man that was Atriox, who since last we saw him, is still breaking new grounds...
The bias towards halo 2 and the halo 2 characters is super apparent in this video.
A good character isn't built on their accomplishments neccesarily, it's also their shortcomings. Yes Atriox has done far more in narrative terms, but Tartarus was written with flaws as well as a fully fleshed-out character usually is.
@@pepsidoggy Great argument
I agree. As cool as Tartarus was, he didn’t really add anything. To most people, he was just another Brute, just whiter fur and he talked to arbiter a bit.
@@pepsidoggy Another cool thing about Tartarus was when Arbiter told him how the prophets had betrayed all of them, Tartaric has a crisis of faith and for a moment looks like he may ally with the Arbiter but unfortunately doubles down on his delusions.
I went into this with the highest expectations. Mainly because he’s a fellow halo 2 enjoyer.
Act Man dissing Halo 2 for actually having a story was just like, so small brain for me.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 What are you talking about? He loved that game's story
@@deerecoyote2040 Have you seen the "haha kill aliens" Meme he made? Didnt seem like it there.
Halo 2 had the best story
That doesn’t diss it?
That’s just a joke about how the other 2 are more simplistic
Noble 6 being you is such a good concept and idea along with the rookie which I love so much. When noble 6 died in reach I felt like I had died. I felt the characters and was allowed to be them. Such a good idea and I love them both.
That just means they aren't actual characters they are just boring self inserts
What are you talking about? Noble 6 is hiding out in a cave.
@@mariobadia4553 because you don’t like yourself? Lol go play h4 where they drug chief’s story through the ground
@@grantfuller6123 you mean where they made him an actual character and more like his vastly Superior book counterpart? I'm mean Master Chief in the bungee games was nothing more than just a self insert that spews one-liners every once in awhile. While Halo 4 Chief is an actual character with actual feelings and actually respects the book material while Bungie just wipe their asses with it( the inferior version of the Fall Of Reach AKA Halo Reach)
I think Noble 6 ranks higher than Master Chief in my opinion for this reason. In Infinite I rock the Mark V (B) helmet because Noble 6 resonated with me so much, even as an almost silent protagonist. Halo Reach was almost peak Halo campaign story telling! I get chills just thinking about Noble Team and their story
I can't believe he got John Halo's full name wrong. Shaking and crying piss out of my eyes in agony
Well the full name is John Oneoneseven Halo, actually
And that he used a photo with his helmet on. Just doesn't suit him, we all know he's meant to take it off, because that's the true face of Halo.
@@krishan8735 And not just the helmet tbh
Oh, what I would pay so to erase that work of bloat permanently from every form of history and conscience...
I thought his name was Jimmy Rings?
I just met Steve downes and Jen Taylor today and man what an experience their voices are so surreal in person. You look at them as regular people but see characters at the same time it’s undefinable.
My guy forgot S++ tier Master Cheeks from the TV Series. Lays pipe, dies and then has his lifeless corpse controlled by an AI is some stellar writing.
Show Chief: has sex
Game Chief: doesn’t have sex.
I mean, it’s clear here who’s the superior one lol
(Also he’s clearly not dead since they have to do something in the second season...)
My favorite Rookie moment was when he introduced dare to Vergil that whistle alone was such a nice detail after collecting all of the Audio logs
Also the canon version of events too
I actually have an argument to make on Evil Cortana's behalf in regards to her destroying Doisac, I actually think she was actually NOT condemning the Jiralhanae species to extinction, but rather trying to recreate them. In fact, I think there is evidence to suggest that she followed her speech from Halo 5 to the letter. She said to those who resist that "There will be a great wrath, it will burn hot and consume you, and when you are gone, *we will take that which remains, and we will remake it on our own image."* - A lot of people myself included, thought she was talking about using the Composers, we now know that isnt true, but what if she was actually talking about using the *Cylixes of Zeta Halo?* The strongest bit of evidence for this comes from the Silent Auditorium, its walls are lined with Brute Cylixes.
How did those get there? How could Atriox command Forerunner systems to bring them there? He didnt. it was Cortana. She was planning on wiping out the current Brutes, then using Brute Cylixes to recreate the Brute species under her guidance!
Holy schmoly, that's actually a brilliant theory! I feel like these little details about Cortana scattered throughout Infinite's campaign help to alleviate the issues I had with her characterization in H5, and I think it's a real shame that they are not brought out more in the general discussion.
@@philippedesjardins9484 It also explains why she was so violent even to Humans who were on planets where Guardians were waking up, if the Human population ever got too low, she could just reseed them with Cylixes!
That actually makes so much more sense
I agree. The Arbiter is the best character of Halo and in gaming. I loved him since I started playing Halo as a kid. Such a shame 343i barely brings him back anymore. We want the Arbiter back! We want playable Elites back!
Same here!
I'd love to have a Arbiter Campaign where you fight the Covenant Splinter groups after they have joined the Created for protection. Arbiter VS Sali'Nyon fight plz
We want bungie back
@@candrox4324 but arent they kinda busy running their successful live-service game? Unlike 343 ;)
Maybe they bringing him back to the story DLC if we getting one
Technically, we don't know if Jega died. His body quickly disappears after he goes down, almost as if he fell then activated active camo to escape.
He is dishonorable, definitely fits his character to run instead of fight to the death (fingers crossed we see him again)
Sometimes it glitches out and his body shows up, but I'm hoping that's just a glitch and his body camos on purpose to hint at him getting away
@@HiddenXperia That’s what I figured. Being that Infinite has many bugs and glitches I figured that’s one of the many bugs and glitches in the game
@@dallinhasfallen6138 I’d love to see Jega fight against Arbiter or Shipmaster in a future dlc
@@Woopor Arbiter would smash him up
The one placement I'll disagree with was Jul Mdama. I think the books gave him a very unique character.
Jul was a Sangheili unbound by the traditional honor and arrogance of his kin. Who managed to break free of the stereotypes and religion of his species of his own accord. A Sangheili who would lie, cheat, scheme and do whatever was required to reach his goal. He represented one of the most 'Human' Elite characters in the franchise, and I believe that made him very compelling to read.
His main interactions with humanity beyond the Covenant/Human war was ONI. He experienced humanity at its worst and that shapes his view of the whole species, which is why he believed that Humans would be a threat to the Sangheili and aided in creating what eventually became the Storm Covenant.
The games ruined Jul, making him out to be just another big, evil brute. That's the real tragedy.
A or S character for me, easily.
On a side tangent, I can never forget the scene in the books while Jul is imprisoned by ONI and he talks about the human smile: The action of baring one's teeth to express joy or lack of hostility - an action that is used as a warning or show of hostility by most other species.
Agreed man, Jul is one of my favorite characters
After they killed him off so lazily I've always had a pipe dream of him having used a body double to trick ONI.
If there EVER would be an elite to use a body double, it would be Jul.
I've always imagined him having foreseen his failure and made preparations to disappear. Now, lurking in the shadows he makes new plans and prepares for another shot at revenge against humanity, and more specifically - ONI, for all the ways they have wronged him.
I can imagine him using the news of his death to his advantage, claiming that the forerunners returned him to life to lead his people.
I know it's a pure pipe dream but man would I love 343 to have given Jul a better chance than they gave him in 5. That was such an insulting end to such a cool character.
Personal theory, I don't think Jega died, you can see he goes invisible right after you defeat him. He-big container of salt maybe-could have narrowly escaped with injuries, and just dropped his energy sword doing so
Not exactly a personal theory, pretty much everyone has said that since day one lol
a pretty common theory - i hope its true, i love him sm
I don't think Escharum gets enough credit. Yeah his dialogue can get pretty repetitive and some additional backstory would work wonders, but his concept alone makes him one of my favorite villains in the franchise:
An elderly, battle-scarred brute who wants nothing more than a proper warrior's send-off; either the legend beats him, or he lies on his death bed with feat on his name. He sends armies and Spartan Killers after the Chief, KNOWING they would lose (and if they didn't, Chief wouldn't be the legendary opponent he was looking for). Tactically efficient, studying the attributes and weaknesses of his foes, which ends up playing a significant role in his boss fight. It's all very much indicated throughout the game, but is fairly easy to miss, which is why I think he gets undermined so much.
Haven’t watched it but if sergeant Johnson isn’t in the s++++ tier I will personally revive him off the ark and send him after you😉
I wonder if *Easter Eggs* could be accounted for in the next video? The pleading grunt or the rvb marines asking for a password in Halo 3 for example!
I really hope that even in death Escharum and the Harbinger have a heavy hand in the play. Escharum’s final words becoming true and the Banished forces on the ring unite and are determined to hunt Chief and the rest of humanity down (and hopefully a mechanic that if you don’t rescue a FoB or destroy a Banished base will increase the patrol of the region). And with the Harbinger she’ll serve as a Jesus Christ sort of roll to the endless like “She died so us can live” sort of deal like a little return to religious symbolism that the games have. I really hope this general direction is taken. 🤞🤞
The Religious persons struggle to not sympathize with a villian challenge:
The Harbinger is clearly precursor related.
She looks precursor. She speaks in the same way that the gravemind does and even says some of the same lines. If she's anything other than a relative of the precursors then I'll be disappointed.
She also has the ability to use the logic plague in the new halo novel Rubicon Protocol if the gravemind like lines aren't proof enough the fckin logic plague for sure is for all the halo fans saying that the harbinger has no relation to precursors. Haven't seen very many of them spout nonsense since that book came out.
Arbiter 1 and MC 2. Saying this before watching the whole video. Arbiters dialogue in H2 is unbeatable, as is his character’s journey and development. Absolutely unmatched
AND IT JUST KEEPS COMING !
This man cannot be stopped.
Yet another banger friendo ! Hope you’re not getting too burnt out making these mega videos 👌. Though they sure are brilliant!
Haha thanks dude, nah I don't tbh, I love editing, I find it so chill and satisfying so I can happily sit there for 15+ hours editing afking runescape on my other monitor day in day out haha
@@HiddenXperia Absolute chad
@@HiddenXperia Chadperia
@@HiddenXperia Dude. That is the life. Lol. I wish you had a channel talking about what you do on RS. I’m getting back into it and would love some motivation.
Just a side note, in the french dubbed version there was a problem for cortana, when she answer "Shoot" to the grave mind, the traductor literarly translated it to shooting but the verb for shooting a weapon. I remember as a kid not understanding the end of halo 2 thinking Cortana Used the Halo
Also, I'm a bit disappointed by all the characters you left out; Foe Hammer, Bisenti, Mendoza, Jenkins, the "Wait for me!" crewman, YipYap the Grunt, Phillip the Flood, Harry the Hunter, Jackie the Jackal, the Prophet of Denial, and so many more...
I need to know the lore behind Harry the Hunter
He has a deep-seated fear of fishermen.
And hooks.
@@TheMartyODonnell So are you stepping back from the internet or not? I thought thats what you meant when you deleted your videos on your channel....
Lasky is like the anakin skywalker of halo. He may be a commander/general, but he's not afraid to go onto the front lines and get his hands dirty. Absolute Chad
I mean, Laskey is a lot more reserved, hopeful, and cheery than Anakin. He was always quite serious and kinda dark. He is closer to Locke or maybe even Halo Wars Arbiter.
He didn't fall into evil, though. My parallel would be a more professional version of Mass Effect's Joker.
Carter’s introduction was telling Noble 6 to leave the lone wolf stuff behind
His final words was telling Noble 6 (and Emile) that they’re on their own.
I always loved how every death in noble team reflected their characters, Jorge saying he’d never leave reach but dies on a ship away from the planet, kat being the tech specialist but dying due to a shield malfunction, Emile living by the sword only to die to one, and finally noble 6 starting Spartan life as a lone wolf, and ending it as a lone wolf.
Even Jun, the only survivor of noble team was the sniper, who tend to stay away from the battlefield survived by being away from the final fight of reach, just goes to show how well written Halo: Reach was.
Lord Hood is one of my favorite characters. The amount of trust he places in Chief is awesome and he's an absolutely fantastic leader. Of course his voice acting is amazing as well, since Ron Perlman voiced him, but all that combined just makes his character truly fantastic to me. Chief kinda does his own thing these days and doesn't take crap from bad CO's anymore, but I'm willing to bet that after what he and Lord Hood have went through together, Chief would still follow Hood to hell and back. To me, Lord Hood was one of the key elements to Bungie's Halo games, so I really hope we get to see him again some day. It would hit me right in the nostalgia if he does come back and become Chief's main CO again
A couple of weeks ago I was watching Princess Mononoke on Netflix with my brother. One of the characters in that movie, the boar god, Okkoto-nushi said the word “demon” and at the same time my brother and I looked at each other and said, “Wait, was that the Arbiter?!” Sure thing, the character was voiced by none other then Keith David himself. It was such a cool moment, as if he hadn’t said that one word, we wouldn’t have realised at all that they were voiced by the same person.
They out number us 3 to 1.
Rtas: Then it is an even fight. Most badass line in all of Halo. Even Cheifs bomb quote does'nt measure.
Imagine in a Flood DLC you link up with Lasky and he tells you to go find Roland in the Flood infested UNSC Infinity, as a callback to Cortana
I dont think ive ever seen anyone with this amount of sheer love and enthusiasm towards Halo. So happy youtube recommended you
You should really consider doing a cutscene tier list. Because... why not? These tier list videos from you are great!
Cortana is probably my favourite character in all of modern gaming. I genuinely can’t think of anyone better
Even after she went evil? that has to knock her down on some people's lists...
@@jakespacepiratee3740 I still have headcannon of her being a fragment of the original that’s Logic Plagued. It’s completely Copium but I think it makes sense at least
@@afro117icarus5 No, that doesnt make any sense at all. Thats a theory just as bad as "The ENdless are only a threat because wat if Floood infected them!??!" - its a lazy and boring way to shoehorn the Flood into everything. Why the Hell would Cortana be infected by the Logic Plague, AFTER being cured by the Domain? She was literally promoting the Forerunner philosophy made to fight off the Flood!
Not only that, she even debunks this theory in Halo Infinite! "The Flood? Why would I?"
oh, and finally, the new Halo Encyclopedia heavily implies that the Xalanyn are immune to the Flood. I wonder why?
Miranda I think was kind of a wasted character tbh. She was solid enough in halo 2, but in halo 3 it wasn’t good. Also her death was pretty bad from a logic standpoint. She’s in with literally no support what so ever. Although halo CE was pretty simple in plot and world building, even then Jacob Keys had a squad of marines with him! It just makes Miranda look stupid.
Honestly I kinda wish she survived and have her be a bridge character between halo 3 and halo 4. Imagine how crazy it would be to find out it’s her in control of Infinity, and maybe having Lasky being her second in command.
Bungie had to make Miranda stupid because they wrote themselves into a corner. If she had backup anyone she brought with her would instantly put a cap in truth's head and thus the arbiter wouldn't get his revenge.
@@mariobadia4553 the only plot reason Miranda seems to contribute with her death is give Johnson a way out of this scene. Which seems silly. Surly they could’ve wrote it to have the player escort Johnson out of room, right?
I hope she gets her redemption via a spotlight novel of her entire implied messed life.
@@ryanelliott71698 yeah that way Miranda to be used for any future projects with spin-offs
@@michaelandreipalon359 hopefully it's with a writer who can do her character Justice
The Weapon’s characterisation was spot on and extremely well done by 343. It felt like Chief was teaching a new player to Halo. Her charm and innocence in the beginning and then the development into a slightly cynical and serious person was pretty much perfect.
Regarding the Arbiter, he is the MOST HUMAN character despite being an alien from a culture starkly different from humans.
Also, Jega doesn’t have a dead body. It disappears. Which is weird because every other Infinite boss had a body, but not him. Something tells me that he is still alive and may come back as Punished Jega
Jeorge: *"Tell em to make it count."*
Harbinger: *"Tell them...I am sorry it took so long."*
Atriox---->
Don’t forget Escharum!!!
@@dallinhasfallen6138 eh fuck that guy. Killed Millions of Humans, still got Chief's sympathy.
Noble 6 defiently carried out jorges dying wish he went on to bring cortana to chief which was the turning point in the war.
I like how you ain’t too bungi biased. Some halo fans purposely sleep on the 343 halo games especially halo 4’s campaign cuz of its art style and sprint but I love halo 4’s campaign and I’m like you how I can’t pick wether I like a vocal or one liner master chief
Yea halo 4 is shit on way too hard I get not liking the art and gameplay but the story was really good and set up the next trilogy great, they just threw it away and flopped hard with halo 5
I like how all deaths of the noble team are ironic for their personality
Carter - a Captain which died to save his team
Kat - the genius outsmarted by the covenant shot in her brain
June - not dead but as mysterious as he was his destiny was unknown in the game
Emile - a badass which died in a badass way
Jorge - a big man killed by something bigger than him
Noble 6 - a lone wolf put in a team which in the end died all alone by him/herself
As of late 2558, it is not confirmed if he is alive or dead. (Jun that is. No E in his name btw)
@@galenmarek4550 isn’t he a Spartan 4 trainer/recruiter
@@ShadowCompany01 Jun was more than that actually. He was the Head Recruiter, and a Trainer for the Spartan IVs, as well as being the acting Chief of Staff for the Spartans, being the overall second in command of them. But the station he was last seen on got destroyed in the Created Conflict by the A.I Leonidas, which is why him being alive or not is unknown.
@@galenmarek4550 Spartan Agryna sounds like she knows he’s alive…
50:25 The exact opposite of me.
Halos ships are my favorite thing in the franchise. Each faction has their own unique ships, though they might copy one design that has proven itself as very effective (Kerel pattern = Sh'wada pattern; Ket pattern = Zanar pattern).
At this point Halos ships might be the one thing still leading me to not leave it behind
Top tier above the ranks is basic combat elites specifically halo 2 bc they say
IVE TAKEN A GREEEEVIOUS WOOOUND
And
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Putting noble 6 in b and not in s+ is crazy
Naming the Rook and killing him off in a book was the biggest 343 OOF imo
The former I'm admittedly fine, since his name always had the initials "J.D." since the Bungie days, but yeah, why kill him off?
Also, why make Mickey a damn Innie? Sure, it makes sense, but it would have been nice if he stayed loyal to the UNSC due to seeing the multiple crimes the Innies made over the years.
You must not have played Infinite
@@lordthamoorpologodcannon9238 ?
the killed the rookie in a bookie
man...can you believe that we're gonna be 30 when the next halo comes out now.....this series will always have a special part in my heart. even if halo 4-5 werent up to par with the way the story should have gone, so much lost potential within those 2 games. nonetheless the continuation gave us so much lore to dive into, i love you all, ill see you in the next game.....and in the next
Just wanna remind you that the Didact is not dead. Getting hit with the composers did only digitize him. He's still alive but shelved. They should have kept him arround.
I just finished Divine Wind and I’d highly recommend reading it. Has many cool characters and sets up a lot of possibilities for the future and teases where some of the missing characters from infinite might be.
As much as people love to hate Halo these days you are right. Chief is one of the icons of gaming and did it in such a short time frame which makes it even more impressive.
Flood Jenkins should have been on the tier list as well. Because of him, the survivors of the Pillar of Autumn did not take the repaired Truth and Reconciliation infested with Flood back to Earth.
My only wish for Johnson was instead of saying "Kick his ass" during the Spark fight, he'd instead sometimes tell Chief to "Shake the lightbulb"
Miss this man daily xD
I feel like Escharum is really underated and misunderstood. I always interpreted that he wanted the master chief to get has far has he did to get him excited. Where he almost cared more about getting a warriors death than the success/survival of the banished.
He annoyed me too much. If he more more cutscenes I could see myself liking him. Unfortunately, 90% of the time you see him he is a hologram yelling and monologing.
@@zavagezealot1187 if he was a megalomaniac, and he IS, THATS where he’d be…
"I'm gonna put Tartarus in the middle of A tier"
Proceeds to put Tartarus in the middle of S tier XD regardless, loving these tier videos. Eager to see if we get a MGS one after the Halo ones are over
For the hectic leader in the halo: Encyclopedia it said this
In the years following the war, Arbiter Thel 'Vadamee sought to recognize 'Refumee's efforts in changing the course of their species for the better, granting special dispensation to the members of 'Refum keep in the Swords of Sanghelios.
I think Jul was wasted.
I'll never understand how the Arbiter got so much hate back when Halo 2 released. It was a completely different experience playing as a member of the covenant, learning that they were a religion than just your typical alien invaders like they were branded in Halo CE. Learning all that information playing as Master Chief 100% of the time wouldn't have felt the same.
I loved it. I did enjoy Chief’s levels more, but I loved the Arbiter and his story, and didn’t enjoy Halo 2 flood levels nearly as much as Halo 1 flood levels.
I loved it as well, people hated him because it took away from Chief. So I guess 343 thought it would be a great idea to do the same thing but moreso and with a much less interesting character. (Halo 5)
That's because the Halo Community with the same back then as it is now full of a bunch of whiny man children in fact that pissed because someone else got the Limelight instead of the giant Green virgin.
@@wesleynichols1873 it just proves that the Halo Community has always been toxic and has no idea what they want at any given point
People already have this sentiment about the Didact, and soon about all 343i games. As you grow older, you stop caring why you got so angry, rather, you get confused why you were at all.
I still think Jega is alive, when you "kill" him in the boss fight the second his body hits the ground it cloaks. To me this highly suggests that Chief damn near killed him, but he cloaked and barely managed to slip out like the stealth edge lord he is. Praying hard we get more of him and hes revealed to be alive in dlc.
Unfortunately that was most likely due to it being rated T and censorship. But I do fully believe him cloaking and slipping away is my definitive head cannon
@@imperialguardproductions The thing is though the other bosses bodies dont disappear after death, it makes it seem more intentional to me.
@@thegrayghoul4638 Good point
Maybe he can take over the Banished now that The Hand of Atriox, Atriox himself, and Escharum are all dead, making Jega the highest-ranking living member of the Banished.
@@jshrhrgahhuehtnmppl Atriox isn't dead tho 🤔
Hey Hidden, I just wanted to say I really enjoyed this video. I don't know much about Halo's expanded lore, but even the things I thought I knew about Halo's characters and story were just enhanced with every one of your rankings. You managed to go in and out of games, novels, easter eggs, comics, etc. to explain every character's background and appeal in such a fun and uncomplicated way. I learned so much from this video, and I have a renewed appreciation and respect for Halo's lore. Thanks dude.
I think noble 6 should have been higher just because I find how deadly he was, his entire persona and backstory is just so cool, I would have put him around mid-top a tier
You do know that backstory is not Cannon right? Oh so he's not even a character he's a self insert. Then there's the fact that well he has no personality whatsoever. It's the same thing with the rookie and why 343 off since they couldn't do anything with a blank slate
It's gonna be so badass when Noble 6 finally comes out of the cave
@@GordonShemway1 better rookie find noble 6 nd work with him together to continue the fight
@@mariobadia4553this comment is the most retarded thing I've ever read.
@@mariobadia4553It's not a blank slate if they had a backstory already. Defending 343 for being lazy is crazy bro.
“He’s the last of his kind”
Red team: are we a joke to you?
And so many other teams in return.
More than just red team. What about all the other teams that were stuck in battle while red team was soundly asleep in cryo
*Retcon Team
4:06 when I first played reach when I was like 8 this and Emile’s death stuck out even to a 8 year old as an honorable death
The thing that always gets me about Keys is how he died and what Halsey always said about him. She would always say that he knew how to keep a secret and he died mentally fighting to keep information away from the the flood. He pretty much died keeping secrets
I love the Gravemind as a character so much but I just wish some of the cut lines from Halo 3 were kept, would have made the character a bit more grey to me and actually raises a decent moral dilemma.
The most terrifying thing about him is, when you listen to him, he kinda has a point.
That would be the Logic Plague
I 100% agree with Master Chiefs' character in Halo Infinite being one of the best. It was such a great campaign, and I only wish they made the campaign longer and had more environments and a larger map.
Always a W when Xperia uploads
In my opinion, the Didact being Composed was his perfect sentence for his crimes. He became so hateful towards Humanity and so obsessed with Composing Humanity, committing genocide to their bodies and torture to their minds, it only makes sense that he himself suffers that fate and loses is prestige totle of "Last Living Forerunner" I'd love to see him come back as his Halo 5 Concept Art version, a Promethean through and through. He deserves that fate.
Wow my list is basically the same. I'd put Lasky in S+ just Because I did enjoy Forward unto Dawn a lot and he was my favorite character in all of Halo 4 and I hope we see him Return in Infinite DLC or the next Halo game but actually have a bigger role to play but please 343 don't you ever try to Kill him off. I'm probably going to have a big meltdown if that happens
the tier list is based on what this characters provoided to halo rather then ranking them based on achivement and backstory, RESPECT
“We just need ponchos and massive eyes.”
- HiddenXperia, August 20, 2022
We need a ‘battle of jakku’ type of scenario at zeta halo with the spirit of fire, blue team, infinity crew, fireteam Osiris, and everyone else vs the banished. That would bring closure to the zeta halo conflict and could introduce the endless.
Why Battle of Jakku? I'd rather want it to be like the Battle of Yuuzhan'tar from the New Jedi Order novels.
I’m not sure about that but the spirit of fire definitely needed to be in infinite
I love these long tier lists! My favorites videos!!!
As somebody else who loves Emile; I think Reach's Firefight voice description sums up Emile perfectly. "He doesn't want to win the war,he wants the enemy to die"
You're forgetting one thing about having the arbiter back as an infinite DLC. That would require 343 to add playable elites. Something I think they avoid almost out of spite at this point.
How I would’ve wrote Jul M’Dama would’ve started very different then when we first see him. In Halo 4 he would be a main character and ally to not only Chief, but as a general in the Swords of Sanghelios. But he is fascinated by the Forerunners and their technology. At one point in the game he’s captured by the Didact. When he’s captured he starts off hating the Didact, but becomes fascinated and by him and his technology. When Chief “kills him” he is grateful he was saved but at the same time wishes he could learn more. The legendary ending of the game shows him slowly turning evil and is corrupted by the technology and history of the Forerunners. In Halo 5 we start the game fighting with Jul. At the end he betrays us, leaves, and it’s been revealed he’s been serving a someone for sometime. Later in the game it’s been revealed he’s been serving the Didact who’s still alive. And the main enemy faction in the game will be Prometheans and Promethean/Covenant Hybrids. The Didact will play a similar role to Truth with The Warden Eternal being his personal bodyguardand Jul serving a role similar to Tartarus and as Didact’s protégé. The Didact would replace Cortana but written better. And the Didact would be the main villain of Halo Infinite. And near the end of Infinite he would meet his end at the hands of the Chief.
Luc is blessing us with all this Halo content 🙌
Edit: I want Spartan ponchos/blankies in Halo Infinite! Also, webbing and ghillie suits would be awesome
Iambic pentameter.... as a actor trained to study Shakespeare I never thought I'd hear that phrase used on a halo video, loved the list man, been a long time sub love the positive energy you pump into this community and as a fellow brit I salute you.
When I see I’m hours late to a video:
“By the time I learned the Demon’s intent: there was nothing I could do.”
Really entertaining video, thanks for doing these tier lists 🙏
Man, Arbiter is the goat! Love him Johnson Cortana, Chief and Buck
Your Channel is absolutely splendid! Just recently discovered your channel as I came back to Halo Infinite with Season 5 and I’ve been enjoying it greatly, and especially with your content to help me dive deeper into the Halo Lore! Thank you!🙌🏽💫
I'm REALLY tied with Noble 6 and Arbiter. Both are such fantastic characters, with incredible power and importance in the canon!
Also, Johnson is like 70 years old. Absolute badass.
This is a joke right?
@@MetalMilitia83 without noble 6 then Master Chief never gets Cortana🤷🏻♂️ almost no bigger turning point than that, however I agree that overall the Arbiter is better
U joking?
Noble 6 has no personallity
@@wrenstark6320 that has nothing to do with his place in the list
@@nolandderlugner1351 yeah he's just the guy you play as, arby actually has depth and real development
You should make an updated video on the meddlers! To me, that little snippet in the CEA terminals where they crash on alpha halo and the bit where they may have had something to do with the releasing of the flood on delta halo, is without a doubt THE most interesting and mysterious thing in all of halo lore.
1:15:53 I don’t believe that he died in his fight with Master Chief, the encyclopedia hints at his survival by not stating his death and his body cloaks after you defeat him, he is an Ex Silent Shadow after all.
I was excited to hear your opinion of the arbiter from the beginning of the video, and it was totally worth the wait. I’m glad you agree that he’s such an amazing character and quite possibly one of the very best that video games have to offer.
26:37 it’s because of a VA strike.
He didn’t like his pay enough, along with tons of other VAs from different franchises.
It's another reason why Halo 3 is the worst Halo game Bungie ever made
It wasn't because they needed more pay, it was because the people who paid them (which was a union, as far as I know) just didn't give much of a darn for their efforts, among other scandalous reasons.
I remember back then i used to be so annoyed that Master Chief did most Halo missions alone without a team. Like it just didn’t make sense to me him doing such high stakes “saving the universe” level missions solo. But then I think about how insane all the things he’s done and that bringing a team for Chief would just slow him down or they would die 5 seconds in if he brought people
I really liked Miranda in H2 but they wasted her in the final moments of Halo 3. Her death, whilst good conceptually for story telling drama, was handled poorly and the rationale behind it could’ve been executed way better.
It isn’t explained why she’s on her own to stop the rings and save Johnson. I get that Chief is not close enough to stop Truth but I don’t understand why the primary Commander is going in a Pelican, alone, with zero marine escort.
That being said, I will give credit for how Bungie reversed the roles of Sgt Johnson coming in to rescue Miranda at the last moment like in Halo 2’s index cutscene.
That's the one thing I really hate about Halo 3s story. They're alone on an alien construct with only one commander, it just makes no sense. It almost seemed like she wanted to die.
@@allent1152 she wasn't meant to originally show up in the first drafts of the story, but a couple of new drafts and reworks later, under recommendation form Marty, they decided they needed some important character deaths to add more emotional impact in the game, so they decided to kill johnson and Miranda.
Honestly, going into the Halo books I expected Chief to be very boring and out of place, but he ended up being extremely enjoyable and stole the show every time he was on the page. I love Fred a lot, but he can't carry a book on his own so I actually ended up missing Master Chief whenever he wasn't present.
You know, I think this video atually made me realize kinda what's missing in Infinite's campaign. It's the lack of friendly npcs. Like yeah we have tons of marines and everything but we've got no recurring named friendly npc's in the story. Even in halo 1 we had keyes, Johnson, 343 guilty spark, and the like. Friendly npc's that are important to the story, and main characters in their own right, but not overshadowing Chief/us as THE main character.
Where as in halo 5, the npc's were too much, and all of the npcs felt like they were trying to overshadow us/chief.
they also seem.. so dead? they never have conversations. You'd think in a map so big they'd be chock full of dialog, but nope. No back and forths like were present in other games, no dialogue that's a bit more unpredictable. They join master chief at the hip and have almost nothing unique to do or say. One starts to talk and the other will tell them to focus, instead of those quips you'd often hear between 2 characters.
@@NotALotOfColonial_SpaghettiToG Yeah, one of my favorite lines you'd get were the ones from the marines if you stare at em for a second, or when you take a power weapon, they'd sass the hell out of you... Now they just feel very dead in the sense that they don't feel very alive, or immersive. I miss those little details that made it feel like the marines were real people, and not just programs there to point and shoot at the enemies doing the same thing.
Been saying that from the beginning. Infinite is so damn lonely. There are no background activities. No other missions, sorties, etc. No one anywhere doing anything....
I always felt that John Forge could and should have been a Spartan.
Imagine if they made him somehow survive his sacrifice and he became the a Spartan IV and the leader of them taking Palmers place. Heck, he could even have been a Gen 2 or 3
In my opinion you’re way undervaluing Kurt as a character. I think he is easily more interesting than everyone in blue team and noble team (except maybe chief). Ghosts of onyx paints him as such a complex character with how he lost 2 entire divisions of Spartan 3’s and what lengths he will go to to keep them alive (the brain augmentations) and how he is kind of cursed by that decision. Him having moral discussions with Halsey about this and keeping the secret of his survival secret from all his brothers and sisters. It was also really cool how he wore the SPI armor instead of the mjolnir just to show that he is the same as his students. And his death was unbelievably badass. Definitely an S+ tier character.
I'd put mickey on top of dare. Possibly even S because all the info of him being the son of innies and him being unable to let go his love for his parents. Also, thr fact that he only ever fought aliens and wasn't born when humans fought humans is even more interesting. Actually should be S tier.
Halsey isn't a gray character, I think she's straight up evil. It's not fair to give her credit for the heroic deeds and sacrifices of the Spartans just because she created them.
Imagine being kidnapped at age 6, experimented on against your will, then when YOU sacrifice yourself to defend innocent people, people give Halsey the credit for saving humanity because you were *"her Spartan."*
Yeah I think I'm agreeing with that take more and more. Good outcomes of bad intensions and all that. She didn't create the Spartan program to save humanity, she did it to brutally crush insurrection - the morality of rebellion being another matter entirely - but low and behold; the Spartans coincidentally turned out to be exactly what it took to stop the covenant. Funny how it all worked out.
@@asiberiantiger188 She did that to save a fracturing humanity. The Innie-UEG War was taking a massive toll on humanity, so she did what no one else was able or willing to in order to bring things to a halt.
She is on par with Gordon Freeman's relationship to the Vortigaunt: loved and hated, necessary and excessive.
@@D00dman eloquently put, you are indeed right, but still - the ethics of the specifics of the Spartan 2 program are a difficult point to defend.
Yeah it sucks but if actually happened for real all the events in exact order id want it to happen fuck genocide. People liking Halsey isn't any different from any civilian loving any big gov they live under. Humans are terrible just cause you don't see anything bad happening doesn't mean it isn't.
Rtas is the homie. Hes just a real one. We need an Arbiter and Rtas buddy cop duo game
Hold up, I thought Spark just took over Bastion and is just escaping the guardian? Didn't the old keeper, Keeper of Tools, go to seed the precursors with Eden not Spark? Therefore Spark is still in the milk way looking after Bastion since Halo 5 events
*Puts Sarah Palmer in front of Miranda and Noble 6*
"And just like that, i took it personally"
Now we need rankings of Halo’s stories, music, weapons, vehicles, and equipment.
Music would be... confusing to the point of flamey.
I have been saying for years the Didact needs to be retconned back into the franchise as a character (of redemption). Starting off initially as hostile, then over the course of time, he becomes a reluctant ally of humanity as he and his Prometheans battle the Flood/Endless/Precursors while Master Chief carriers out his assaults against the banished.
The Didact eventually going out like a hero, and passing on the Mantle of Responsibility to Chief and Humanity, closing off his story arc as a hero to all.
My hot take is cortana at b tier. She is fun but not very interesting to me. I just thought she was too much of the "do this objective" in the original trilogy. Halo 4 improved her for me but halo 5 killed it for me.
I've been thinking about the halo franchise for a while and don't really have anyone i know that also plays it sooooo apologies, I'm going to drop my thoughts here.
Halo was such a fun game as a kid that the franchise entered my top 4 of all time. Gears, halo, mass effect, assassins creed. The rule of my top 4? any new games that come out, i buy. Now i cant say I was too big on halos story, being a kid who focused on the gameplay i honestly didnt have a clue what the story was until i replayed while older so what draws me into the series is the stellar gameplay in the campaign (loooot of splitscreen coop with brothers growing up).
Now every series has it's ups and downs and for halo, god i really disliked halo 4, the robots sucked to play against, was not as fun (i know they arent called robots, just bear with me). halo 5 i really liked the gameplay, is was so polished that it would be my fave game if we hadnt fought the same boss over and over and over again throughout the game. Playing on the hardest difficulty is already annoying enough when you see a boss like 30 times before you pull it off. But then when you fight the same boss multiple times in a game but they multiply their number its like.... ok i get it, please stop.
Still, despite my greivances with the boss' in halo 5 I liked the gameplay so much that for the first time ever I played ranked multiplayer reguarly. Up until this point the only shooters i played were singleplayer or pve multiplayer so i was SO BAD, people dont move predictably like bots so i had to learn how to actually play all over again. Halo 5 was the game that got me to actually play so much that i climbed to the top of diamond, just shy of onyx and honestly i was still improving, noticing i was reguarly playing against and beating onyx players when overwatch game out and i switched.
I truly credit halo 5 for being the reason i opened up the genre's i exclusively played and started trying new things.
The point of this long ramble is that Halo is finally close to dropping out of my top 4 series. It's basically just nostalgia holding it up now. halo 4 had a campaign i didnt like, 5 had a campaign i liked but was very very repetitive with bosses, infinite has a campaign i havnt even played yet because i insist on the first time always being coop and i cant even do that yet!!!
3 games with campaigns I would not rate as top tier experiences means the last time I played a main title i enjoyed was reach in 2010.... 12 years is a long time, plenty of amazing games have come out in that time and as new series deliver consistent success the halo franchise is starting to slip, even with nostalgia on it's side I just can't keep it top 4 much longer.
Regarding the multiplayer, got to say i dont enjoy infinite one bit. At all. Halo 5 was better. Infinite is basically halo 3. But I am not here to play a remaster 15 year old multiplayer game. It irks me that
1) The combat is slower without the forward, backward, sideways jets, it feels more like 'whoever shoots first wins' (assuming 100% hits), there is less room for counterplay when you get engaged upon.
2) The weapon you start with in infinite is always the battle rifle in ranked. IT GETS SO OLD!!! I understand you want to have an even playing field for skill sake but god almighty this isnt the best halo player, this is the best battle rifle player! the best trigger finger! how is this fun?
I did climb to the top of diamond pretty easily but I got too bored to keep playing, it sucks not being able to even slightly customise your initial loadout and then having to run the same paths every single time because you need to path through a weapon you want to equip. It sucks always having a shootout with battle rifled in the middle of the map instead of switching it up and sometimes rushing in with pistols or assault rifles.
I got so good at the battle rifle that when i play any other mode that isnt ranked I get curb stomped because i've got absolutely no practice with any weapons in the game outside the rifle. It is so sad to have to say that halo rank isnt a reflection of your still with all the weapons in the game, but a reflection of your battle rifle skill and ability to control weapon spawns.
It's a shame that the next halo game will be the first i wait for a sale (or good reviews) before i jump in.
Waiting a whole year just to coop the campaign for the first time is honestly, a series killer in my eyes. Time for new games to replace the old in my top 4.
Apologies to anyone who actually read the wall of text. it's many years of thoughts packed into one place :) Enjoy your day!
Oh, P.s. The halo wars games are phenomenal. Being a fan of the old age of empires games I love this halo style and the cutscenes are on point. Halo wars 2 was a gem for the halo franchise in the past decade.