Hearing the parent child theming of this game, it sure seems like Togashi's commentary on how Parents coerce their children to do what they want no matter what. And it parallels how it was the King's will for his children to do this whole thing and even convincing Halkenburg to get dark convictions.
I love this interpretation. It also fits with Morena, seeing as she was coerced into living in the shadows by her father's enforcement of the system. I'm sure even more symbolism will come up once the game starts.
@@SuccWarCentral and now Morena is doing the same to others, while thinking it is justified. In the hxh community the "organ donor" subordinate is someone who's ability will be consumed by Morena once fully leveled (a process unlikely to be survived).
@@SuccWarCentral I cant even comment on your video. I can only respond to comments but I just want to say... THANK YOU... this bs card game is unnecessary and we know how it's going to end, all they have to do is kiss, the end.... By the way Togashi loves card games that's why he often features them in his arcs.
It's not conjuration, a Heil-Li guy commented in one chapter that they have waaay too many of those. He also said Emitters where in high demand. Enhancers are useless for complex plans. So the options are: Emitter, Manipulation and Specialization.
Holy shit you were right about the whole "anything could be happening in the background" bit, they literally declared Martial Law and we have no idea why
Kinda having crap pot theories but I think youre completely right about the game being some kind of coercive manipulation that overwrites the person playing. I think Morena’s reference to previous players wanting to choose their own cards is referring to a game played against Kaiser and possible Keni Wang. Not totally sold on Keni but I think the reason Melody can’t sense any deception from Kaiser is because he has been manipulated, with him being a sleeper agent of sorts. And if Keni Wang is under the same manipulation the clock/ count down Morena is referring to is the troupe members on their way to the hideout.
Did Morena create contageon, or is she patient "zero"? In previous chapters it stated that she was also levelling up and could give that skill to others.
I interpreted "patient zero" as meaning the ability's progenitor. Since she can initiate others into contagion while she's level 45, and normally doing that requires level 100, she doesn't work like a normal Contagion player and is probably its creator.
@SuccWarCentral Interesting! I thought contagion may have been related to her nen beast , with potentially this new card game manifesting when she hit a certain level.
Sodom's ability being limited to kidnapping makes perfect sense, full manipulation is hard so a new nen user like him wouldn't be able to exert Illumi or Shalnark levels of control. I also doubt Borksen is a conjourer given how common that affinity already is among the hei-ly
My theory is that, since Borksen has inferred her win condition is to get X, Morena's clever enough to have actually made X HER win condition. Maybe X, Yes, and No are all the same outcome, which is Borksen going back to her soldier friends, and all Morena actually wants is to get Borksen to use deal. Then the "small request" is a lil kiss, and Borksen can return thinking she won the game an unaware she's infected. We know from the rules that this will be the outcome. Deal allows Borksen to choose a specific card from her graveyard, so it appears to give her a ton of power. When Borksen's down to two cards left, unless those two happen to be X and Return (a 1/10 chance), Borksen knows that there's a chance of Morena picking her winning card next round causing her to lose the game. Since Morena goes last, then for Borksen to be 100% certain she can be left with X or Return, Borksen will have to pick Deal when she's down to two cards. Morena's set it up so her own actual goal is to get Borksen to complete the small request, NOT to have Borksen be left with Yes.
My favorite part of this chapter is how Volkson notices how mad Morena is getting over explaining the rules because in a sense it mirrors Morenas relationship with her own parent who only asked yes of her
Good review! I’m also like you and not good at card games or remembering intricate details😅. I like the sound of Vorkson too! I also suspect that this card game is an ability of one of Morena’s subordinates. And off topic but I really hope the troupe teams up with the Heily, I could see Chrollo and Morena hitting it off❤
As far as the "V" sound versus the "B" sound, from my limited understanding of Japanese I think The "V" sound & the related kana to represent it are fairly new, so not everyone uses them. Probably especially older people who are used to just converting it to the "B" sound
Luckily ive been trained through years of reading Fukumoto manga like Kaiji to withstand 20+ chapters straight of characters merely explaining game rules before even playing! With this said, a mere one chapter to explain this game feels a little too short!
Na Morena definitely wants a Specialist who can steal or destroy the 3 Kakin treasures. Morena goal is much bigger than Tserriednich so Borksen must be vital to the destruction of the Kakin Empire.
am i the only one who thought the game wasn't made with nen? it could be that they want her to act in her own instead of meeting manipulation conditions
This chapter was entertaining to me, I think this is an enjoyable chapter for people who prefer slow-burners, Considering that the general consensus seems to be that it’s “boring” 😑
“Anything that gives or takes abilities to or from other people seems to be a specialist ability” I would be inclined to agree if it wasn’t for a certain emitter with a penchant for eating people…
Being a Chimera Ant king probably introduces all sorts of complexity to that, so I didn't think I should count him. This rule seems to be true for humans, at least.
Pouf's cocoon is a manipulation ability that grants abilities. Shikaku could also capture abilities in cards as a manipulator. Specialists seem more inclined to give and take abilities, but it's not exclusive to them.
I just hope that feitan and phinks arrive in that room and just end the game already .. but it seems that the game would go on especially that those spectators around are purely defensive based in case something happens because those 2 murder machines are coming
All the cursed babies have Nen awakened and learn Zetsu while still infants, Sodom's ability wouldnt have worked on her if she was one of Beyond's sacrifices
Oh so thats why shes called Borksen in some scanlations and in others call her Volksen. I alsobthink Volksen is good. Also i dont think they'll die too badly. I feel like they'll be able to hold their own considrring they are tserri's friend
"All that gives or takes Abilities is Specialization" Yeah, except Meruem and Pouf So half a dozen Instances of Ability-Gaining: All clearly Manipulation, manipulating the Body to craft a Hatsu. And the Aura-Boost Congtaion gives later must be Enhacnement. Transmuters are Rarest. Seeking out someone like Dogman did makes barely any Sense for Specialization
morena dies of herpes after kissing too many people. Thats gonna be her meruem's disease trust
ngl the amount of pathogen she got from this many kisses must be significant lol
Coat your lips in nen. Easy peasy.
Herpes was the real contagion all along 😢
i love morena's little smile
It's so pretty.
It's very Mona Lisa-esque, I even wonder if Togashi drew some inspiration there
Hearing the parent child theming of this game, it sure seems like Togashi's commentary on how Parents coerce their children to do what they want no matter what. And it parallels how it was the King's will for his children to do this whole thing and even convincing Halkenburg to get dark convictions.
I love this interpretation. It also fits with Morena, seeing as she was coerced into living in the shadows by her father's enforcement of the system. I'm sure even more symbolism will come up once the game starts.
@@SuccWarCentral and now Morena is doing the same to others, while thinking it is justified.
In the hxh community the "organ donor" subordinate is someone who's ability will be consumed by Morena once fully leveled (a process unlikely to be survived).
Borksen is NewWorldReviews' dog. I think that's a pretty solid connection
Ah, I only know that creature as "Dogquixote Dogflamingo."
@@SuccWarCentralhe’s using bonolonevs ability to change forms
@@SuccWarCentralthat's GrandLineReview's dog
@@SuccWarCentralidk why but saying creature is crazy 💀
@@SuccWarCentral I cant even comment on your video. I can only respond to comments but I just want to say... THANK YOU... this bs card game is unnecessary and we know how it's going to end, all they have to do is kiss, the end.... By the way Togashi loves card games that's why he often features them in his arcs.
0:12 wasn't paying attention at the beginning, and when the panel appeared I thought the text behind it said "HOELESS"
If i was bork id be borking my ass off if i opened my eyes and morena was there😫🙏🗣‼️‼️
I may have the urge to scorn you for such a crude comment, but we all know if I wasn't a UA-camr I would be saying much worse things than this.
“Just kiss already” 💀🤣🤣
😂😂😂
Your reviews are Wonderful. Hope your channel gets the attention it deserves.
Thank you very much!
Just straight borkin it
If I was Volkswagen I’d give up purely due to not understanding the game
...I may start calling her 'Volkswagen' from now on
One of my favorite meta aspects about all the names that organically flourish from the fan base. Shout out to Terror Sandwich
@@SuccWarCentral
Wouldn’t the Troupe heading to their hideout be the clock that’s ticking? Kenny could have informed Morena somehow
That's another good possibility that I didn't consider!
It's not conjuration, a Heil-Li guy commented in one chapter that they have waaay too many of those. He also said Emitters where in high demand. Enhancers are useless for complex plans.
So the options are: Emitter, Manipulation and Specialization.
Holy shit you were right about the whole "anything could be happening in the background" bit, they literally declared Martial Law and we have no idea why
The card game rules are a perfect encapsulation of what I love about Hunter x Hunter. Legit one of my favorite chapters of the arc
Kinda having crap pot theories but I think youre completely right about the game being some kind of coercive manipulation that overwrites the person playing.
I think Morena’s reference to previous players wanting to choose their own cards is referring to a game played against Kaiser and possible Keni Wang. Not totally sold on Keni but I think the reason Melody can’t sense any deception from Kaiser is because he has been manipulated, with him being a sleeper agent of sorts. And if Keni Wang is under the same manipulation the clock/ count down Morena is referring to is the troupe members on their way to the hideout.
I imagine one of her goals during this game would be to get Vol to kiss her to activate her ability
Hence the thumbnail and "useless lesbians" haha
I see the logic in your translation, and raise you Bork.
your title hooked me haha. Love your stuff!
I think she's called Borksen because bork is the sound a dog makes and Dogman was the one sent to capture her.
mona lisa plays guess with childhood friend of serial killer royalty?
This chapter gave Greed Island vibes.
Did Morena create contageon, or is she patient "zero"? In previous chapters it stated that she was also levelling up and could give that skill to others.
I interpreted "patient zero" as meaning the ability's progenitor. Since she can initiate others into contagion while she's level 45, and normally doing that requires level 100, she doesn't work like a normal Contagion player and is probably its creator.
@SuccWarCentral Interesting! I thought contagion may have been related to her nen beast , with potentially this new card game manifesting when she hit a certain level.
@@PatrickCWalters She's an illegitimate Kakin Prince but she wasn't in the Seed Urn ceremony so she wouldn't have a Nen Beast.
@@amongstus4418 got it . Thanks!
It's possible she might be able to become a patient zero twice doubling her max members.
Sodom's ability being limited to kidnapping makes perfect sense, full manipulation is hard so a new nen user like him wouldn't be able to exert Illumi or Shalnark levels of control. I also doubt Borksen is a conjourer given how common that affinity already is among the hei-ly
Yeah, on reflection, I changed my mind and I actually think Volk is a specialist.
My theory is that, since Borksen has inferred her win condition is to get X, Morena's clever enough to have actually made X HER win condition. Maybe X, Yes, and No are all the same outcome, which is Borksen going back to her soldier friends, and all Morena actually wants is to get Borksen to use deal. Then the "small request" is a lil kiss, and Borksen can return thinking she won the game an unaware she's infected.
We know from the rules that this will be the outcome. Deal allows Borksen to choose a specific card from her graveyard, so it appears to give her a ton of power. When Borksen's down to two cards left, unless those two happen to be X and Return (a 1/10 chance), Borksen knows that there's a chance of Morena picking her winning card next round causing her to lose the game. Since Morena goes last, then for Borksen to be 100% certain she can be left with X or Return, Borksen will have to pick Deal when she's down to two cards. Morena's set it up so her own actual goal is to get Borksen to complete the small request, NOT to have Borksen be left with Yes.
My favorite part of this chapter is how Volkson notices how mad Morena is getting over explaining the rules because in a sense it mirrors Morenas relationship with her own parent who only asked yes of her
Ah, I interpreted it as a more general sense of anger and contempt, but I like this reading too!
Good review! I’m also like you and not good at card games or remembering intricate details😅. I like the sound of Vorkson too! I also suspect that this card game is an ability of one of Morena’s subordinates.
And off topic but I really hope the troupe teams up with the Heily, I could see Chrollo and Morena hitting it off❤
I definitely think the team-up ship has sailed. Nobunaga hates them too much haha
Somehow I knew you'd call the video this.
I am nothing if not predictable!
As far as the "V" sound versus the "B" sound, from my limited understanding of Japanese I think The "V" sound & the related kana to represent it are fairly new, so not everyone uses them. Probably especially older people who are used to just converting it to the "B" sound
“That dude is insane” 😂😂😂 literally 2:48
Been waiting 4 days to watch this 😅😂 i just managed to get through the chapter today.
Another BANGER.
Halkenburg's funeral procession is on tier 3 not tier 2. Meaning all the architecture you see in this chapter is from tier 3.
Anyone else wish they were playing cards after being kidnapped? 😅
Loved the new kaiji chapter hope we stay on this pov for a while or atleast get back to it soon
Just in time again, you're a lifesaver
i was so fucking confused in this chapter, but i appreciate it, i think Morena has a great role in this story and we as readers did not got it already
Luckily ive been trained through years of reading Fukumoto manga like Kaiji to withstand 20+ chapters straight of characters merely explaining game rules before even playing! With this said, a mere one chapter to explain this game feels a little too short!
Na Morena definitely wants a Specialist who can steal or destroy the 3 Kakin treasures. Morena goal is much bigger than Tserriednich so Borksen must be vital to the destruction of the Kakin Empire.
Lmao 😂 definitely my favourite character 😍
Morena 's face look so weird in some panels lol, i guess its the ears position.
also where do you find those high-quality manga images?
I get them from TCB scans!
am i the only one who thought the game wasn't made with nen? it could be that they want her to act in her own instead of meeting manipulation conditions
This chapter was entertaining to me, I think this is an enjoyable chapter for people who prefer slow-burners, Considering that the general consensus seems to be that it’s “boring” 😑
I really enjoyed it too, as a HxH fan. As a video-maker, well...
@ Fair, I would be severely frustrated trying to make a video about this chapter, Props to you for still making it entertaining.🫡
Bro Morena is Sophia from The Penguin. 😂 Sexy Crazy
“Anything that gives or takes abilities to or from other people seems to be a specialist ability” I would be inclined to agree if it wasn’t for a certain emitter with a penchant for eating people…
Being a Chimera Ant king probably introduces all sorts of complexity to that, so I didn't think I should count him. This rule seems to be true for humans, at least.
@ Absolutely, Meruem could probably do anything with his aura just by sheer quantity combined with his brilliance.
Pouf's cocoon is a manipulation ability that grants abilities.
Shikaku could also capture abilities in cards as a manipulator.
Specialists seem more inclined to give and take abilities, but it's not exclusive to them.
@ True, But all those examples are from the Manipulator category which is closest to the specialist category alongside conjuration.
That chart isn't by Togashi
id let morena kiss me
Girls just wanna have fun 👩❤💋👩
are you The "Strawbillie & Peachez" youtube account?
Never heard of them!
@@SuccWarCentral (you sound like that person) you got interesting and funny video btw
where can i read it?
Togasshi's Troupe has posted their translation!
@@SuccWarCentral thanks
I just hope that feitan and phinks arrive in that room and just end the game already .. but it seems that the game would go on especially that those spectators around are purely defensive based in case something happens because those 2 murder machines are coming
I can’t believe I was reading this wondering when they would kiss 😂😂😂
My little theory is that Borksen is one of Beyond's children, so she could actually be a weapon for Morena
If she was one of Beyond son she should know nen in my opinion
All the cursed babies have Nen awakened and learn Zetsu while still infants, Sodom's ability wouldnt have worked on her if she was one of Beyond's sacrifices
Ay, Benjamin, anda a jugar Roblox y dejate de hablar leseras.
@LathropLdST quien te conoce lacraa
W video❤
Oh so thats why shes called Borksen in some scanlations and in others call her Volksen. I alsobthink Volksen is good. Also i dont think they'll die too badly. I feel like they'll be able to hold their own considrring they are tserri's friend
Lesbian Akuten Wars
"All that gives or takes Abilities is Specialization" Yeah, except Meruem and Pouf
So half a dozen Instances of Ability-Gaining: All clearly Manipulation, manipulating the Body to craft a Hatsu.
And the Aura-Boost Congtaion gives later must be Enhacnement.
Transmuters are Rarest. Seeking out someone like Dogman did makes barely any Sense for Specialization
Specialists are the most rare.
Meruem is likely a specialist
@@AndrewManook He's stated to be an emitter.
@@AndrewManook Confirmed Emitter
Keep yourslef updated
@@friedhotwings You ae wrong. Go count instead of just presuming random things
Bro I can't figure out if you're a boy or a girl
Keep trying, I'm sure you'll get it someday!
leave it to SuccWar to make this snorefest of a chapter interesting
Boo you
Thank you, but I definitely don't deserve all the credit. Togashi's the one who put this stuff in here - I just had to do a little digging.
I liked this chapter. To me 402 was more dense and heavy.
How was this boring! Boooo! Bad opinion
@binkiebrew I agree! Booo!
Who even started calling him terror sandwich? Stop it. It’s not funny. It’s never been funny. It’s never gonna be funny
I will call him by his proper name once he earns my respect.
Boohoo
I think its mostly done because no one can agree on how to pronounce it