I want to clarify that we have no direct evidence that any type of specialist can use all types of Nen at 100%. Moreover, we know for sure from Togashi's "Nen Chart" that no one except people belonging to a particular type of Nen can enter the circle of attributes of this type of Nen. We also do not know how effectively specialists can use other types of Nen, we only know that they learn much easier to use the types of Nen that are at the other end of the hexagonal chart. Kurapika's specialization ability allowed him to use all types of Nen at 100%, and this was a big surprise for Uvo, so it is very unlikely that ALL specialists have this ability. And yes, after this chapter, it is obvious that Specialists most likely have the opportunity to learn and use any type of Nen by more than 70%(A lower percentage would most likely create difficulties in learning these types of Nen, and as Morena says, Specialists do not have them.), but we cannot yet say anything more.
I'd be bold enough to say all Specialist have the same ability as Kurapika to use all categories of Nen at 100%. the problem is, when specialists wall themselves into a particular hatsu then they are bound to it and must use other tactics/restrictions to expand their abilities/hatsu. That said, the range of expertise of a category will obviously differ. So you might have Kurapika being able to use 100% of Enhancement, for example, but he will likely only ever get to Excellent level with it while a pure Enhancer can reach Natural or Extreme. A Specialist might be able to reach Natural or Extreme but likely will have an equivalent sacrifice to reach it while a pure Enhancer would make a similar sacrifice (or just spend a bunch of time in the mountains praying) to get to Natural or Extreme in some other category.
@@LeoBeastmode Under Kurapika's explanation it seems like every Specialist with proper training would think of a coverage hatsu. "When I swap my affinity to Enhancer when I close my fist". Which would let them bounce between having 80% and 100% in every category. Morena's explanation (at least in the TCB translation) is that the description of categorization seems... odd. She implies Specialists can ruin their potential by training in one category. Possibly with the expo rules they could "drift out of" being a specialist if they spend all their time practicing conjuration. If it isn't the OT explanation that specialization can proxy for anything itself, then Morena's probably omitting details to Borksen about how specialization works. Possibly to convince Borksen it's in her own best interest to be learning from her (Morena).
@@LeoBeastmode IF they have the ability to use all other new categories at 100% efficiency then that makes Kurapika nen vow to use emperor time useless. Why would he need to sacrifice his life span to use all nen categories at 100% if he could do so naturally when he's a specialist? Makes no sense They most definitely can use all other nen categories and learn and combine abilities from them easily but I wouldn't say their efficiency is at 100% (unless they create some sort of restrictions or nen vow like Kurapika) but a base specialist probably has like a 60-80% efficiency across the board that's just my guess.
The whole idea of the Specialization category is to break the preestablished rules of nen, but up till now we didn't know what that implied specifically: considering Kurapika, Morena, Alluka and Chrollo (like Morena, the latter both should as well tap in all categories with their hatsus), it's the most likely assumption that Specialists can use all types of nen at such level of proficiency (although it may necessitate certain conditions to be met); Uvo's surprise doesn't mean much, as Specialists are pretty much a mystery even for nen users, and we know that Chrollo typically doesn't tell his comrades about his abilities-hell, for what we know, Morena might as well be one of the best nen users we've seen in the series so far as she seems to have awakened, learned and researched about nen from scratch, and yet provided us with the best explanation so far on what Specialization actually entails, the proportion of its users in the population as well as its main pitfall. A character like Pakunoda shows what Morena means by saying that Specialists can ruin their potential by limiting themselves to one or two categories: Lynch developed a very similar ability to Paku's while being only an Emitter; while Pakunoda's is still the superior version, both seem to use the same underlying principles, as Paku appears to be mostly if not only using Emission
@@mattb.7079 Dont just randomly claim something that a few fans for some period of time believed-in was 'the whole point all along' Edit: IF ANYTHING, the recent not-much-discussed casual Reveal of Tsseri's Powerr being 'breaking the preestablished rules of Nen' was incredibly UN-impressive. It was so shockingly simple i never thought it would be that but yeah: Its just Conjuration storing Aura. Its just... he puts much aura in it... thats how his Zetsu-Mystery was resolved All in All, your not very critical-thinking and i implore you to start actually going through what we know and dont know
i dont think there is reason in thinking all specialists are 100% in every cathegory. think about it, kurapika exchange life time for that, but he turned into a specialist before realizing any hatsu! so nah, that is still possible but requires a lot of bullshitery from kurapika's side. also, what morena said about specialists not realising their true potential would not make sense having every specialist with 100% in every nen category. they having some hidden % spread that the water divination cant decipher fits better with specialists having a harder time learning what they are good at. so i think it goes like this: they are out of the ordinary. they most likely can be 100% all around, but also could be something like 100% in manip and enhancement, and 60% all the others (that would be my guess for pitou). at least that is what i think makes the most sense, from what the manga gave us till now.
I do NOT discredit, but this twist would also have him predicting it, but great deduction I never realised that this could also mean a spread of it, instead of 100% all around; Good Job 🎉
The problem with this logic is the 4th Prince has clearly shown the ability to potentially be 100% effective in any class of his choosing. Kurapika does so with Emperor Time. And Chrollo, due to his abilities, is able to do so with the right book activation.
Specialists don't have 100% on every type usually.. But they can create an ability that can have the same effect. The way I see it, Specialists are capable of creating Hatsu that can use any combination of the types, however we have yet to see a specialist with multiple Hatsu. It's like they get to create one very special ability and that's it. Usually it comes naturally so there isn't as much thought process as other Nen users meaning they don't really create a hatsu it just manifests naturally somehow.
Wouldn’t Pitou count as a specialist with multiple Hatsus? Her healing ability and also the puppet master ability she can use on soldiers as well as herself
I think a video on basic applications on nen (and how rare they actually are) would be interesting, like how we almost never see basic emission attacks which aren't turned into a specialized ability (Razors dodgeball, Empty Air Fist; Air Blow), but we do see Enhancement almost always used with every punch and defense. Like, in order to create an emission of enough power to be a real threat, does it HAVE to be made into a Hatsu? Are nen ki blasts possible?
What if HALKENBURG has declared martial law, in the body of Benjamin, of course, but still, it would be SCARY, sicne Halkenburg is going down a road where I'm more scared of him being elected than Benjamin, because you can guess what Benjamin is going to do, but Halkenburg? Either he's a diplomatistic ruler or will become a ruthless dictator and that are only 2 of the Millions of options; This would be scary, since Halkenburg is absolute set on winning this and 'reforming' the country, but of course in first princes hands its also VERY scary, but I just wanted to point out the possibility
I dunno Benjamin seems to be a better option than someone like Camila or Tseredinch, I think there are only like 2-3 princes who are as good or better options to win than he is tbh
Yeah your old video about this topic is now a huge flex. About the beginning of the game, i belive the request was the one that was done before explaining the game: "i want you to join our family"
I can't imagine them announcing martial law over anything as trivial as Borksen's disappearance, we've already seen worse in tier-1 like with Silent Majority or the suspicious deaths of two of the Princes without raising the possibility that Benjamin would enact martial law being raised despite it always being in his vested interest to do so. Kurapika was speculating just a few chapters ago that it would need something on the level of a mafia group openly assassinating a Prince to give Benjamin his justification to take over the legal system, though the Phantom Troupe stealing the national treasures would reasonably be up there too if Kurapika had any inkling of it. I assume we're going to go back chronologically to see one of the assassination attempts -- the Luzurus kidnap/murder plan with Melody and co, something disastrous happening at Kurapika's Nen training with Zhang Lei and Woble, or Halkenburg's move against Benjamin with the possibility that Halkenburg is currently possessing Benjamin's body and has just used it to enact martial law.
Morena clearly has something up her sleeve. Borksen is uniquely special in that shes a guard of terror and a specialist plus morena saying that she specifically wants to AVOID a no(as opposed to wanting a yes) makes me think that even borksen getting to leave will be an acceptable result for morena.
For all that i get, i didnt read explicitly explanation saying specialists have 100% proficiency on every category. Guess i understood wrongly... but just to say, i understood as if every specialist have its own distinct distribution... (i guess i always though it made no sense the author had explained emperor time gives kurapika 100% proficiency only to later explain us that any specialist have it)
I think the deal with Kurapika is that he basically gets 100% efficency as if he fully trained in all categories for years. AKA that's why he can have a buncha hatsu's while in emperor time that are insanely strong without training. The freaking Heal Chain is insanely high level enhancer stuff that'd clearly need a long time of training to manage, we haven't seen an ability able to heal like that at all yet I think besides Kurapika.
My understanding is that specialist CAN have 100% proficiency in everything. Whereas every other nen type has the 80-60-40 distribution. Basically specialist are an exception to this distribution.
You are misunderstanding Kurapika's case. Crimson eyes activation makes him a specialist not Emperor Time. Specialist naturally have 100% efficiency with all type. However, they have to train to master them. Morena explained that specialist are so talented in all categories that they tend to think another category is their innate category. Uvogin just probably didn't know that specialists can naturally master all categories. What make Kurapika OP is Emperor Time, where he sacrifices his lifespan in other to gain MASTERY over all the categories WITHOUT needing to TRAIN. Emphasis on the key words. Heal Thumb is something almost, if not, on the level of greed island's breath of archangel card which requires high level of mastery over the enhancement category. I'll also assume he can use Emperor Time without the Crimson Eyes if he wanted to but it will be a waste as only Conjuration will be mastered.
These videos are what i have been looking forward to the most each week. I love reading the chapter and then coming to hear your thoughts on it. Also you definitely called how the specialist category works.
Didn't Bork request that she pick the cards and Morena agreed?They also shuffle the cards it doesn't really matter that borksen gets the choice but agency is agency.
@theoverthinker348 she was trying to avoid Morena cheating in the picking... but I guess if Morena really wants to cheat she would do that anyway as the one shuffling the cards is at her side
At the end of the day only thing that matters is aura quantity . You can have broken or strong abilities , but if your opponent has much more aura than you there is no help
My head canon for Chrollo’s ability was that what ever ability he flips To, his Nen proficiency distribution adapts to the user he stole it from. But now it would make more sense That it all falls under specialization, because if a stolen ability uses multiple nen types, he can use them all at 100% possibly
Makes no sense then that he heavlily prefers to Steal/Use Specialist, Conjurer and Manipualter abilities, but okkkk. Let's apply a very niche Idea of what this Chapter supposedly maybe supposedly reveals about Specialists and take the Result as Gospel
I think it's pretty clear that whilst he is using that particular ability he can use it at 100%.. Meaning yes he can technically use all types at 100% like Kurapika but he also has the hoops of actually stealing an ability to use first and can't create a busted Enhancer hatsu himself like Kurapika could.
@@TJE.13 Plz explain in detail to me why its [ clear ]. To me and many others the opposite seems very clea, especially with Chrollos observable tendency to steal/use Conju, Manipu and Speci. Coincidence? Also: Leol doing the SAME - also Coincidence? Indeed, all Ability-Thefts suuuureee seem unwillig to steal Enhaner-Hatsus and such
I don't necessarily think that Morena is an imposter. I thought it was more of a metaphor for becoming a radically different person, kinda like how kid Chrollo died when his friend was murdered to become the head of the spider that he is today.
@@ikenzemonninja can be, though knowing Nobunaga's prediction that the actual head of the Heil-ly got killed and the imposter took the throne bc they are not operating like a mafia should makes it a bit questionable In any case it doesn't matter too much as we never met the "true Morena"
3 kinds of ppl can use specialization Turn on or born specialist Manipulators that became affine with specialization without turning into an specialist Conjurers that didnt turn specialist unlike kurapika ; but have 2 affinities and can use it regardless of its nen type.
I gotta hand it to you TO. There's definitely more here. I do want to congratulate you. I previously was skeptical about your thoughts along the lines of "These balance issues don't matter for the ants with superhuman aura" and "As crazy as it is Chrollo may just be over double the level of Silva and Zeno" or "Nen thieves may also steal the original Nen user's precision/level/accuracy for that hatsu". But now I have formed a theory adjacent to your's that may not stand a single additional chapter. There's a very, VERY morbid chance there is a unifying thread between Chrollo, Leol, and Morena. And that's treating humans as meat. If there's some... piece of a body that is the source of aura or emblematic of a specific proficiency. There's probably some surgical way to take that piece. Say the special liver of an emitter, special heart of a manipulator, special adrenal gland of an enhancer, and special lungs of a conjuror and implant them in the body with the special brain of a specialist. Which would be creepy, and could give Togashi wiggleroom around accusations of making a chosen-one category.
@@slevinchannel7589 I can see you are one that dislikes this. However I want to be clear disliking and disagreeing are different. Morena's clearly hinting at a revelation about Specialization in 408. Is TO's explanation(s) the only possible answer? No. -I've mused elsewhere It may be canonizing the Expo Nen info that could actually depower Specialists as-established because natural Specialists may accidentally shift themselves from Specialization to Conjuration or Manipulation. Losing or even just making their Specialization affinity weaker. -It could be that she's alluding to Hatsu similar to Emperor Time. One that could make using and mastering other nen categories easier. So it would be an objective waste of time to start learning say Transmutation at 60% efficiency and spend a year reaching say level 12 mastery. When they could do it in 7 months. -It could be Specialists have access to other means, methods, and ways to make restrictions and oaths. -It may be Morena knows something about how as shared Hatsu interacts with different hosts with different affinities. It's possible it's several of these, it's possible it's something else. But I wouldn't put money anywhere near "Morena's just misleading Borksen and isn't about to reveal something.".
Hmmm, I don't think that's the case, since aura has been described as one's "life force" and "psychic power" tied to one's willpower, mental fortitude and emotional state. However, it's not beyond the pale at all that the "life force" of the user of a certain category is powered by a particular organ. I haven't thought of that. I'm assuming Perigord being designated the "organ" and Bork the "donor" inspired this line of thinking?
@@theoverthinker348 That was absolutely in the mix. I also recently got a glimpse of the Daoist Five Element Wheel and it really reminded me of the Nen Ring. Traditional chinese medicine holds important zangfu organs are the source of or channel the energy of these elements. Kind of like chakras from Indian tradition. From there I leapt at correlating to the five elements to the five "standard" nen affinities. I'm not comfortable with the guess to write a thesis on it. But why not share?
It was my interpretation that specialists CAN have proficiency in all categories in special cases, not that they definitely do or All have the potential to do that I interpreted morena as a special case
I know I might get shot for saying this in the Hxh fandom but while I love nen and think it’s one of the best power systems ever. Even as a kid when I first watched my first reaction to specialization was “oh that’s sounds like it’s gonna be a problem for such a rules based power system” I think togashi sensei has done amazing at reeling in how much of a problem it could be though
You cant argue with something being Waaaayyyy off tho Morena literally tells us one Second-Place-SHARING in regards to 'Rarity' are... Manipulation aond Conjuration... uhm... wtfff?
Yeah Specialization can allow someone to use an ability that uses advanced technqiues from all categories however plenty of them fail to do that I would say its really isn't that overpowered. Kurapika loses his lifespan when he is in Emperor Time that state. Chrollo needs to fulfill 4 conditions to steal a power, must hold the book to use stolen abilires and if the original user dies the abiliy disappears, he even admitted that Zeno's gyo is unblockable by him. Pakunoda could only read memories from physical touch after asking a question, that is hardly a broken ability. The only truly broken Specalist is Pitou but in her case she seems to have gone full manipulator and Conjurer and haven't bothered with creating anything unique like a specialist would
Another thing so kurapika does something that ALL specialist can do, but needs to sacfrice a bit of his LIFE for it, Specialisation is OFFICIALLY the strongest category, even the few haters can't deny that
@@Asim-nm1bc She makes it seem like its all 100%, but it also could be a spread (100% Man, 50% En and so on), needs to be more specified, I will try to analyze in depth for me personal, after I've seen a few reviews from good UA-camr that do that, but anyway, good day to you, my friend (θ‿θ)
ik, but then emperor time wouldn't make sense. I think she means specialists understand them faster than the other categories themselves (enhancers etc).
I tend to agree with your previous idea that a specialist tends to be closer to what nen abilty they awakened to. Example chrollo's has 80-100% in mist and pakunoda has 80-100 in something like conjuration emmision and ehancement
Great video...really cool that your theory was proven right...imo Togashi should have kept Specialization outside the nene ring from the start...not for specialization's sake but for the sake of manipulation and conjuration....these two affinities can go really well together if not for specialization being in between and dragging their proficiency in each other down.
@slevinchannel7589 ya....and regarding the most most awesome and rare type complaint...i totally agree.... although I don't think that even if specialist have a potential to be 100% in any/every category it means they would be able to do that with every hatsu they can develop but just the specialist hatsu that they have....e.g. if a specialists specialisation hatsu was bungee gum it would be at 100% but if say pakunoda tried to create bungee gum as her secondary transmutation hatsu, her proficiency would follow the nen distribution with transmutation at 60%.....and most specialists seen to come with their hatsus pre programmed for the user so this retcon shouldn't make most of them too op.
@@elpsykongroo8308 Yeah. Its so damn-hard to figure out anything with all the Basics just blatantly missing. I mean, to apply some confusion-juice to your example: So what if a Specialist wants to have Bunge Gum, Completly-IDENTICAL (really wanna stress: completly and utterly) - what can he do? Can he have a Speciaization-Version of it or can he as soe now seem to suggest just get it as Transmutaton-Type (so literally like Hisoka has it) and its 100% Efficienccy or somethin'? God, this makes no snese no matter from which angle i look at it. Either Morena is lying OR SHE MEANS 'LEARNING SPEED'. So its probably just an Extension of 'Nen-Leanings' which a year ago was revealed by Togashi. I assume you heard of that?
@slevinchannel7589 imo...and this is a pure guess...but specialists cannot "create" their specialization hatsus....it just awakens and all they can do is tweak it by adding more restrictions or complementing it with other non-specialisation based hatsus....any hatsu they create other than their "awakened" specialist hatsu would have to follow the standard nen proficiency. So, if their "awakened" specialisation hatsu was like bungee gum then it would work at 100% proficiency but if they choose to "create" bungee gum as an additional hatsu then they will only be able to use it at 60% as then it wouldn't be a specialization hatsu but a transmutation hatsu.
@@elpsykongroo8308 Possible. But then the Question is: surelyyy they can create something purposefully (the normal way, as at least 5 nen-types do) as well, right? I mean, theres no way your literally blocked from making Hatus on purpose. Actually: I dont mean 'no way' in an opinion-way fct cause we know Izunami told Kurapika to 'keep a Slot open' and 'not make all the Abiities you can make for yourself; cause ou will grow and mature in Life and may wanna craft an Ability suitable to do Teamwork with Friends he hasnt even met yet
@@elpsykongroo8308 Sigh... its so ridiculous Togashi litrally doesnt allow us to watch a Specialist (Terrorsandwich) learn about Specialization. What better point would there but to Show US? Theres literally Specialists learning from the Ground up but we dont get to learn what that Ground looks like so we keep being confused. People wondering what even IS 'Specialist' about Pitous Hatus is a very clear Manifestation of that. I mean, duh: us two talking also proves we Fans are confused about Specialization. A lot of people in this commentsection - i saw them literally just assert random headcanon. Beware of that, man. Many try to confuse you, Kongroo
The request was made already. The request is to join them. You UA-cam guys just got it into your head about the potential of the cards, specially yes or no, so yall were expecting some weird request that would have trapped Bork with a No Card. Which isnt happening, which is why Morena says she isnt trying to recruit her anymore now that the Yes and Joker are gone.
Im confused how a a specialist could get their affnity wring with the water divination test…then i realize with Kurapika he only found it he was a specialist in red eye mide after doing it again, and teror sandwhich may assume he was a transmuter/confurer because he changed the water and made stuff appear in it.
12:50 I would say the punch of Uboging is way stronguer than Silva's and he was specting to rip Kurapika's arm off, aditionally Kurapika know nen only for ayear or less meenwhile Chrollo have much more experience
I have a question: Was “Morena” told about what happened to her mother by someone of the Kakin royalty or did she make all of this up to convince Bjorkson & her followers to join her cause?
another thing specialization is in that point of the chart only because conjurer and manipulator have an higher chance of turning specialist as inunavi says in chapter 83, so probably specialist don't have 100-80-60-40 affinities like the other categories
I want to say specialist being rare is a retcon as we have seen many even more than transmuters, but most of them were seen in extreme situations (I don't know if this is intentional from Togashi) the phantom troupe had two specialist but they are from meteor city, the whole mafia community is wary of them, and even silva Zoldyck said they aren't worth the trouble neon is a nen genius (despite no particular reason is given for that) chimera anta had at least four specialist and they aren't fully human (morena census would have a hard time interviewing one of them) nanika is a dark continent creature kurapika is only half a specialist in extreme emotion morena life is so f'd up she can't be any thing other than a specialist we know nothing about borksen but maybe she was "lucky" to be born like that it's like people with extreme intelligence are rare in population but are overrepresented in research and development
Definetly an Oversight long-called-out by People like me: Transmuters are actually the Rarest, but now this Retcon makes the Oversight of Togashi not keeping track into a whole Storyline/Plotpoint. It's not even just Specialization anyway: Look what Morena says shares the Place of Second-Rarest: Conju and Manipu, the 2 most abundant things. We have so many Conjurers people have long asked for less of them. Conjuris my Favorite Type but even i say: Ok, can we for a change actually get basic-Explanations and many-more-Users of TRANSMUTATION?
12.38 i think characters like kurapika and bill dont have that much strength because their enhancement ability is about healing / accelerate the growth its like puting all of your skill points in a specific enhancement ability instead of focusing on the basic/advanced nen techniques (like uvogin did), and thats also explain why we neven notice the defrent of strength between gon and killua because gon focused on a specific ability what do you think about that and sorry for my english
I have been waiting for this the moment I finished reading this chapter I knew your take on it would be hype. Also surprised you didn't talk about Morena saying her ability involves all the nen types it concerns me that she says this because if she's referring to contagion then I don't see how conjuration is involved at all and as for this card game it just seems like a simple application of manipulation maybe with the cards being made from conjuration but even so would that potentially mean she has a third ability or that contagion has an aspect we don't yet know that involves conjuration.
Yeah, I was unsure about that one as well on my first reading, but I think she meant it in the sense that her ability can help foster the abilities of ANY category. Meaning she can equally assist a Specialist (a member of her own category) and an Enhancer (a member of her opposite category) in attaining and empowering their abilities.
I hate that you ended up being right about Specialization's brokeness, as it both adds to the "asspull-y" nature of the category and that it really made sense that users like Chrollo would be affected by Nen proficiency as he never uses skills of categories other than Conjuration, Manipulation or Specialization (apart from Teleportation), and some of the Specialists make sense they have lower than average physicality given: Chrollo himself always avoided CQC against Hisoka, Paku got stunned by a Gon who has only learnt the basics of Nen, and the existence of Binolt.
Also: if Specialists get the 100% proficiency in everything, wouldn't that make Emperor Time useless? Where's the "Specialist" part of Emperor Time apart from a feature every Specialist can get?
@@crocky6996 its because Kurapika gets the 100% not as potentially being able to use them but straight up he is at 100% skill at them, other Specialists have the potential to do that too but they'd probably need to train tf out of it
@@mladen5140 Fair enough, but man is it disappointing his Specialist ability is to cheese out the primary feature of Specialists with no training needed and under very tight conditions. That's boring ngl.
@@crocky6996this is the reason I guess the @overthinker got it wrongly. From what I understood in the chapter, specialists are more like to have their own distribution although never stated ...
as chapter 108 stated kurapika in emperor time still has the affinities of a conjurer, he can learn up to lv 4 emission abilities, when normal he can only use those level 4 emission ability at 40% power, in emperor time he still can use only up to level 4 but now at 100% power, if kurapika with emperor time uses a nen energy ball against an emitter that trained a lot and have level 5+ abilities, kurapika loses.
I didnt get the sense Moreina is a fool but i dont think she should be taken as the most absolute metric for how to discern Specialisation even if it is in some sense our newest update towards the nen system. Cool fucked up shit as i expected from togashi. i was wondering if he was building to something with all the female parts imagery of the nen beasts this arc.
Doesn't this sort of ruin the nen system? I always liked it because of its balance but if this is true then special is just ledges better then all the other types right? i just don't want every strong person in the show to end up as a specialist, kind of takes away from the excitement that someone is an Enhancer or Emmiter or whatever if specialist is just outright better them them because they can learn everything they do just as well as them.
Yes, it would inroduce problems like a Chosen-One-Type. But maybe its not so bad and this UA-camr is just overlooing Orcham'z Razor saying 'Morena means LEARNING-Speed is unhindered' Either way, let us not let the Exciement you mention Die - lets talk about Nen! In my experience, Fan-made Hatsu, as little support as they get as a cocneptt by Youtubrs, are always Fun. Never found someone who hasnt fun coming up with cool abilities and then refining them in a group
I'd say it s more his WILD Interpretation. CClearly, Morena talks about LEARNING-SPEED, so what he's saying is just an Extnesion of the whole 'Leaning'-Thing
I really don't understand why people are so dumb... NO SPECIALIZATION FOLLOW THE SAME POTENTIAL DISTRIBUTION OF THE OTHERS CATHEGORIES...what Morena means is that an user of specialization can use all other cathegories without train in it for the purpose of their specialize effect... that's it... The potential of use of the cathegories that are part of the way to express the specialization effect (100%) is the natural one that is 2 80% 2 60% 1 40% If you know about Kurapika you could easily understand this thing... The fact is that the 99% of the people who follow hxh doesn't understand really what is nen when they saw it and how it work... Imagine that there are people that still follow the notes of togashi about nen outside the manga is crazy.. many of those informations were totally wrong... Bad thing that these kind of channels do misinformation...
You dont have to be rude. But yes, this UA-camr is wrong and what Morean most-likely talks about is Learning-Speed - so basically the same as the itnroduced-offline Concept of 'Learning'. Specialists probably lean towards many or even all Types
@ because they (more channels) do a lot of disinformation and when you let you see and explain they continue in their directions in the next other videos, and answer to you with the pretend to be right
According to a single interpretation of a single chapter's claims, what most people immedietly go "Wtf is this intepretation, bro?'... yeah... always has been broken, sure... 0r maybe; plottwist; this youtuber is just wrong and MOrean talks about Learning-Speed or something else?
I want to clarify that we have no direct evidence that any type of specialist can use all types of Nen at 100%. Moreover, we know for sure from Togashi's "Nen Chart" that no one except people belonging to a particular type of Nen can enter the circle of attributes of this type of Nen. We also do not know how effectively specialists can use other types of Nen, we only know that they learn much easier to use the types of Nen that are at the other end of the hexagonal chart. Kurapika's specialization ability allowed him to use all types of Nen at 100%, and this was a big surprise for Uvo, so it is very unlikely that ALL specialists have this ability. And yes, after this chapter, it is obvious that Specialists most likely have the opportunity to learn and use any type of Nen by more than 70%(A lower percentage would most likely create difficulties in learning these types of Nen, and as Morena says, Specialists do not have them.), but we cannot yet say anything more.
I'd be bold enough to say all Specialist have the same ability as Kurapika to use all categories of Nen at 100%. the problem is, when specialists wall themselves into a particular hatsu then they are bound to it and must use other tactics/restrictions to expand their abilities/hatsu.
That said, the range of expertise of a category will obviously differ. So you might have Kurapika being able to use 100% of Enhancement, for example, but he will likely only ever get to Excellent level with it while a pure Enhancer can reach Natural or Extreme. A Specialist might be able to reach Natural or Extreme but likely will have an equivalent sacrifice to reach it while a pure Enhancer would make a similar sacrifice (or just spend a bunch of time in the mountains praying) to get to Natural or Extreme in some other category.
@@LeoBeastmode Under Kurapika's explanation it seems like every Specialist with proper training would think of a coverage hatsu. "When I swap my affinity to Enhancer when I close my fist". Which would let them bounce between having 80% and 100% in every category.
Morena's explanation (at least in the TCB translation) is that the description of categorization seems... odd. She implies Specialists can ruin their potential by training in one category. Possibly with the expo rules they could "drift out of" being a specialist if they spend all their time practicing conjuration. If it isn't the OT explanation that specialization can proxy for anything itself, then Morena's probably omitting details to Borksen about how specialization works. Possibly to convince Borksen it's in her own best interest to be learning from her (Morena).
@@LeoBeastmode IF they have the ability to use all other new categories at 100% efficiency then that makes Kurapika nen vow to use emperor time useless. Why would he need to sacrifice his life span to use all nen categories at 100% if he could do so naturally when he's a specialist? Makes no sense
They most definitely can use all other nen categories and learn and combine abilities from them easily but I wouldn't say their efficiency is at 100% (unless they create some sort of restrictions or nen vow like Kurapika) but a base specialist probably has like a 60-80% efficiency across the board that's just my guess.
The whole idea of the Specialization category is to break the preestablished rules of nen, but up till now we didn't know what that implied specifically: considering Kurapika, Morena, Alluka and Chrollo (like Morena, the latter both should as well tap in all categories with their hatsus), it's the most likely assumption that Specialists can use all types of nen at such level of proficiency (although it may necessitate certain conditions to be met); Uvo's surprise doesn't mean much, as Specialists are pretty much a mystery even for nen users, and we know that Chrollo typically doesn't tell his comrades about his abilities-hell, for what we know, Morena might as well be one of the best nen users we've seen in the series so far as she seems to have awakened, learned and researched about nen from scratch, and yet provided us with the best explanation so far on what Specialization actually entails, the proportion of its users in the population as well as its main pitfall. A character like Pakunoda shows what Morena means by saying that Specialists can ruin their potential by limiting themselves to one or two categories: Lynch developed a very similar ability to Paku's while being only an Emitter; while Pakunoda's is still the superior version, both seem to use the same underlying principles, as Paku appears to be mostly if not only using Emission
@@mattb.7079 Dont just randomly claim something that a few fans for some period of time believed-in was 'the whole point all along'
Edit: IF ANYTHING, the recent not-much-discussed casual Reveal of Tsseri's Powerr being 'breaking the preestablished rules of Nen' was incredibly UN-impressive. It was so shockingly simple i never thought it would be that but yeah: Its just Conjuration storing Aura. Its just... he puts much aura in it... thats how his Zetsu-Mystery was resolved
All in All, your not very critical-thinking and i implore you to start actually going through what we know and dont know
i dont think there is reason in thinking all specialists are 100% in every cathegory.
think about it, kurapika exchange life time for that, but he turned into a specialist before realizing any hatsu! so nah, that is still possible but requires a lot of bullshitery from kurapika's side.
also, what morena said about specialists not realising their true potential would not make sense having every specialist with 100% in every nen category. they having some hidden % spread that the water divination cant decipher fits better with specialists having a harder time learning what they are good at.
so i think it goes like this: they are out of the ordinary. they most likely can be 100% all around, but also could be something like 100% in manip and enhancement, and 60% all the others (that would be my guess for pitou). at least that is what i think makes the most sense, from what the manga gave us till now.
I do NOT discredit, but this twist would also have him predicting it, but great deduction I never realised that this could also mean a spread of it, instead of 100% all around; Good Job 🎉
The problem with this logic is the 4th Prince has clearly shown the ability to potentially be 100% effective in any class of his choosing.
Kurapika does so with Emperor Time.
And Chrollo, due to his abilities, is able to do so with the right book activation.
Specialists don't have 100% on every type usually.. But they can create an ability that can have the same effect. The way I see it, Specialists are capable of creating Hatsu that can use any combination of the types, however we have yet to see a specialist with multiple Hatsu. It's like they get to create one very special ability and that's it. Usually it comes naturally so there isn't as much thought process as other Nen users meaning they don't really create a hatsu it just manifests naturally somehow.
Wouldn’t Pitou count as a specialist with multiple Hatsus? Her healing ability and also the puppet master ability she can use on soldiers as well as herself
I think a video on basic applications on nen (and how rare they actually are) would be interesting, like how we almost never see basic emission attacks which aren't turned into a specialized ability (Razors dodgeball, Empty Air Fist; Air Blow), but we do see Enhancement almost always used with every punch and defense.
Like, in order to create an emission of enough power to be a real threat, does it HAVE to be made into a Hatsu? Are nen ki blasts possible?
NO CLUE what your talking about - which i find exciting. PLZ elaborate! Elaborate hard!
What if HALKENBURG has declared martial law, in the body of Benjamin, of course, but still, it would be SCARY, sicne Halkenburg is going down a road where I'm more scared of him being elected than Benjamin, because you can guess what Benjamin is going to do, but Halkenburg? Either he's a diplomatistic ruler or will become a ruthless dictator and that are only 2 of the Millions of options; This would be scary, since Halkenburg is absolute set on winning this and 'reforming' the country, but of course in first princes hands its also VERY scary, but I just wanted to point out the possibility
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I dunno Benjamin seems to be a better option than someone like Camila or Tseredinch, I think there are only like 2-3 princes who are as good or better options to win than he is tbh
Yeah your old video about this topic is now a huge flex.
About the beginning of the game, i belive the request was the one that was done before explaining the game: "i want you to join our family"
I can't imagine them announcing martial law over anything as trivial as Borksen's disappearance, we've already seen worse in tier-1 like with Silent Majority or the suspicious deaths of two of the Princes without raising the possibility that Benjamin would enact martial law being raised despite it always being in his vested interest to do so.
Kurapika was speculating just a few chapters ago that it would need something on the level of a mafia group openly assassinating a Prince to give Benjamin his justification to take over the legal system, though the Phantom Troupe stealing the national treasures would reasonably be up there too if Kurapika had any inkling of it.
I assume we're going to go back chronologically to see one of the assassination attempts -- the Luzurus kidnap/murder plan with Melody and co, something disastrous happening at Kurapika's Nen training with Zhang Lei and Woble, or Halkenburg's move against Benjamin with the possibility that Halkenburg is currently possessing Benjamin's body and has just used it to enact martial law.
Morena clearly has something up her sleeve. Borksen is uniquely special in that shes a guard of terror and a specialist plus morena saying that she specifically wants to AVOID a no(as opposed to wanting a yes) makes me think that even borksen getting to leave will be an acceptable result for morena.
Plz edit that typo of the bracket looking fused to the word outside. In this case the word No
For all that i get, i didnt read explicitly explanation saying specialists have 100% proficiency on every category. Guess i understood wrongly... but just to say, i understood as if every specialist have its own distinct distribution... (i guess i always though it made no sense the author had explained emperor time gives kurapika 100% proficiency only to later explain us that any specialist have it)
I think the deal with Kurapika is that he basically gets 100% efficency as if he fully trained in all categories for years. AKA that's why he can have a buncha hatsu's while in emperor time that are insanely strong without training.
The freaking Heal Chain is insanely high level enhancer stuff that'd clearly need a long time of training to manage, we haven't seen an ability able to heal like that at all yet I think besides Kurapika.
My understanding is that specialist CAN have 100% proficiency in everything.
Whereas every other nen type has the 80-60-40 distribution. Basically specialist are an exception to this distribution.
You are misunderstanding Kurapika's case. Crimson eyes activation makes him a specialist not Emperor Time. Specialist naturally have 100% efficiency with all type. However, they have to train to master them. Morena explained that specialist are so talented in all categories that they tend to think another category is their innate category. Uvogin just probably didn't know that specialists can naturally master all categories. What make Kurapika OP is Emperor Time, where he sacrifices his lifespan in other to gain MASTERY over all the categories WITHOUT needing to TRAIN. Emphasis on the key words. Heal Thumb is something almost, if not, on the level of greed island's breath of archangel card which requires high level of mastery over the enhancement category. I'll also assume he can use Emperor Time without the Crimson Eyes if he wanted to but it will be a waste as only Conjuration will be mastered.
@specialxlim5175 oh ok, if it's the case I see the vow and benefit. Thanks!
These videos are what i have been looking forward to the most each week. I love reading the chapter and then coming to hear your thoughts on it. Also you definitely called how the specialist category works.
Didn't Bork request that she pick the cards and Morena agreed?They also shuffle the cards it doesn't really matter that borksen gets the choice but agency is agency.
Yop, I mentioned that last review. I guess it's just Bork craving a feeling of control in an utterly uncontrollable situation.
@theoverthinker348 she was trying to avoid Morena cheating in the picking... but I guess if Morena really wants to cheat she would do that anyway as the one shuffling the cards is at her side
At the end of the day only thing that matters is aura quantity . You can have broken or strong abilities , but if your opponent has much more aura than you there is no help
I think the most likely reason for marshal law being enacted so quickly is likely from melodies attempted assignation of luzurus
My head canon for Chrollo’s ability was that what ever ability he flips To, his Nen proficiency distribution adapts to the user he stole it from. But now it would make more sense That it all falls under specialization, because if a stolen ability uses multiple nen types, he can use them all at 100% possibly
Makes no sense then that he heavlily prefers to Steal/Use Specialist, Conjurer and Manipualter abilities, but okkkk. Let's apply a very niche Idea of what this Chapter supposedly maybe supposedly reveals about Specialists and take the Result as Gospel
I think it's pretty clear that whilst he is using that particular ability he can use it at 100%.. Meaning yes he can technically use all types at 100% like Kurapika but he also has the hoops of actually stealing an ability to use first and can't create a busted Enhancer hatsu himself like Kurapika could.
@@TJE.13 Plz explain in detail to me why its [ clear ]. To me and many others the opposite seems very clea,
especially with Chrollos observable tendency to steal/use Conju, Manipu and Speci. Coincidence?
Also: Leol doing the SAME - also Coincidence?
Indeed, all Ability-Thefts suuuureee seem unwillig to steal Enhaner-Hatsus and such
I don't necessarily think that Morena is an imposter. I thought it was more of a metaphor for becoming a radically different person, kinda like how kid Chrollo died when his friend was murdered to become the head of the spider that he is today.
Well, first when I read I thought that as well, second time I read I was like... hmmm ... now im: idk dude 😂
@@ikenzemonninja can be, though knowing Nobunaga's prediction that the actual head of the Heil-ly got killed and the imposter took the throne bc they are not operating like a mafia should makes it a bit questionable
In any case it doesn't matter too much as we never met the "true Morena"
Yeah it sounds like her childhood was so dehumanizing she no longer considers herself to be herself.
Clicked within the first 6 seconds. And as much as I hate what it means for the system I have to admit that you were 100% right
I getcha. Thanks though!
3 kinds of ppl can use specialization
Turn on or born specialist
Manipulators that became affine with specialization without turning into an specialist
Conjurers that didnt turn specialist unlike kurapika ; but have 2 affinities and can use it regardless of its nen type.
I gotta hand it to you TO. There's definitely more here. I do want to congratulate you.
I previously was skeptical about your thoughts along the lines of "These balance issues don't matter for the ants with superhuman aura" and "As crazy as it is Chrollo may just be over double the level of Silva and Zeno" or "Nen thieves may also steal the original Nen user's precision/level/accuracy for that hatsu". But now I have formed a theory adjacent to your's that may not stand a single additional chapter. There's a very, VERY morbid chance there is a unifying thread between Chrollo, Leol, and Morena. And that's treating humans as meat.
If there's some... piece of a body that is the source of aura or emblematic of a specific proficiency. There's probably some surgical way to take that piece. Say the special liver of an emitter, special heart of a manipulator, special adrenal gland of an enhancer, and special lungs of a conjuror and implant them in the body with the special brain of a specialist.
Which would be creepy, and could give Togashi wiggleroom around accusations of making a chosen-one category.
Dont preemptively rush to hand him your Congratilation'
Lots of Readers dissapoitned with the Specialist-Retcon-Reveal-Nonsense-Fluff in this Chapter
@@slevinchannel7589 I can see you are one that dislikes this. However I want to be clear disliking and disagreeing are different. Morena's clearly hinting at a revelation about Specialization in 408. Is TO's explanation(s) the only possible answer? No.
-I've mused elsewhere It may be canonizing the Expo Nen info that could actually depower Specialists as-established because natural Specialists may accidentally shift themselves from Specialization to Conjuration or Manipulation. Losing or even just making their Specialization affinity weaker.
-It could be that she's alluding to Hatsu similar to Emperor Time. One that could make using and mastering other nen categories easier. So it would be an objective waste of time to start learning say Transmutation at 60% efficiency and spend a year reaching say level 12 mastery. When they could do it in 7 months.
-It could be Specialists have access to other means, methods, and ways to make restrictions and oaths.
-It may be Morena knows something about how as shared Hatsu interacts with different hosts with different affinities.
It's possible it's several of these, it's possible it's something else. But I wouldn't put money anywhere near "Morena's just misleading Borksen and isn't about to reveal something.".
Hmmm, I don't think that's the case, since aura has been described as one's "life force" and "psychic power" tied to one's willpower, mental fortitude and emotional state.
However, it's not beyond the pale at all that the "life force" of the user of a certain category is powered by a particular organ. I haven't thought of that. I'm assuming Perigord being designated the "organ" and Bork the "donor" inspired this line of thinking?
@@theoverthinker348 That was absolutely in the mix. I also recently got a glimpse of the Daoist Five Element Wheel and it really reminded me of the Nen Ring. Traditional chinese medicine holds important zangfu organs are the source of or channel the energy of these elements. Kind of like chakras from Indian tradition. From there I leapt at correlating to the five elements to the five "standard" nen affinities.
I'm not comfortable with the guess to write a thesis on it. But why not share?
It was my interpretation that specialists CAN have proficiency in all categories in special cases, not that they definitely do or All have the potential to do that
I interpreted morena as a special case
She must be speaking about Learning-Speed, i wager
I mean, if not, what even IS 'Emperor Time'?
I know I might get shot for saying this in the Hxh fandom but while I love nen and think it’s one of the best power systems ever. Even as a kid when I first watched my first reaction to specialization was “oh that’s sounds like it’s gonna be a problem for such a rules based power system”
I think togashi sensei has done amazing at reeling in how much of a problem it could be though
You cant argue with something being Waaaayyyy off tho
Morena literally tells us one Second-Place-SHARING in regards to 'Rarity' are... Manipulation aond Conjuration... uhm... wtfff?
Yeah Specialization can allow someone to use an ability that uses advanced technqiues from all categories however plenty of them fail to do that I would say its really isn't that overpowered. Kurapika loses his lifespan when he is in Emperor Time that state.
Chrollo needs to fulfill 4 conditions to steal a power, must hold the book to use stolen abilires and if the original user dies the abiliy disappears, he even admitted that Zeno's gyo is unblockable by him.
Pakunoda could only read memories from physical touch after asking a question, that is hardly a broken ability.
The only truly broken Specalist is Pitou but in her case she seems to have gone full manipulator and Conjurer and haven't bothered with creating anything unique like a specialist would
Also Pitou is a composer specialist...
The only specialist that we know who use a very special ability is Tsierrendich...
What makes you think it’s Benjamin actually declaring martial law. #HalkenburgWasHere
Another thing so kurapika does something that ALL specialist can do, but needs to sacfrice a bit of his LIFE for it, Specialisation is OFFICIALLY the strongest category, even the few haters can't deny that
The difference is that they have the same percentage of things the other categories have. Kurapika allows it to use them to 100% tho.
@@frower-h2f Kurapika's ET got retconned as hard as Super Saiyan in DBS fr T-T
@@Asim-nm1bcis that so? Morena makes it seem like they can use it at 100%
@@Asim-nm1bc She makes it seem like its all 100%, but it also could be a spread (100% Man, 50% En and so on), needs to be more specified, I will try to analyze in depth for me personal, after I've seen a few reviews from good UA-camr that do that, but anyway, good day to you, my friend (θ‿θ)
ik, but then emperor time wouldn't make sense. I think she means specialists understand them faster than the other categories themselves (enhancers etc).
Yup as soon as I read the chapter my mind immediately went to wondering what your reaction would be 😂
I'm saving the insufferable unsub-worthy gloating for the video dedicated to the topic
@ Will be eagerly waiting
one of the most underrated youtubers out there
Awww, much appreciated!
I tend to agree with your previous idea that a specialist tends to be closer to what nen abilty they awakened to. Example chrollo's has 80-100% in mist and pakunoda has 80-100 in something like conjuration emmision and ehancement
Great video...really cool that your theory was proven right...imo Togashi should have kept Specialization outside the nene ring from the start...not for specialization's sake but for the sake of manipulation and conjuration....these two affinities can go really well together if not for specialization being in between and dragging their proficiency in each other down.
@slevinchannel7589 ya....and regarding the most most awesome and rare type complaint...i totally agree.... although I don't think that even if specialist have a potential to be 100% in any/every category it means they would be able to do that with every hatsu they can develop but just the specialist hatsu that they have....e.g. if a specialists specialisation hatsu was bungee gum it would be at 100% but if say pakunoda tried to create bungee gum as her secondary transmutation hatsu, her proficiency would follow the nen distribution with transmutation at 60%.....and most specialists seen to come with their hatsus pre programmed for the user so this retcon shouldn't make most of them too op.
@@elpsykongroo8308 Yeah. Its so damn-hard to figure out anything with all the Basics just blatantly missing.
I mean, to apply some confusion-juice to your example: So what if a Specialist wants to have Bunge Gum, Completly-IDENTICAL (really wanna stress: completly and utterly) - what can he do? Can he have a Speciaization-Version of it or can he as soe now seem to suggest just get it as Transmutaton-Type (so literally like Hisoka has it) and its 100% Efficienccy or somethin'? God, this makes no snese no matter from which angle i look at it. Either Morena is lying OR SHE MEANS 'LEARNING SPEED'. So its probably just an Extension of 'Nen-Leanings' which a year ago was revealed by Togashi. I assume you heard of that?
@slevinchannel7589 imo...and this is a pure guess...but specialists cannot "create" their specialization hatsus....it just awakens and all they can do is tweak it by adding more restrictions or complementing it with other non-specialisation based hatsus....any hatsu they create other than their "awakened" specialist hatsu would have to follow the standard nen proficiency.
So, if their "awakened" specialisation hatsu was like bungee gum then it would work at 100% proficiency but if they choose to "create" bungee gum as an additional hatsu then they will only be able to use it at 60% as then it wouldn't be a specialization hatsu but a transmutation hatsu.
@@elpsykongroo8308 Possible. But then the Question is: surelyyy they can create something purposefully (the normal way, as at least 5 nen-types do) as well, right? I mean, theres no way your literally blocked from making Hatus on purpose.
Actually: I dont mean 'no way' in an opinion-way fct cause we know Izunami told Kurapika to 'keep a Slot open' and 'not make all the Abiities you can make for yourself; cause ou will grow and mature in Life and may wanna craft an Ability suitable to do Teamwork with Friends he hasnt even met yet
@@elpsykongroo8308 Sigh... its so ridiculous Togashi litrally doesnt allow us to watch a Specialist (Terrorsandwich) learn about Specialization. What better point would there but to Show US? Theres literally Specialists learning from the Ground up but we dont get to learn what that Ground looks like so we keep being confused.
People wondering what even IS 'Specialist' about Pitous Hatus is a very clear Manifestation of that.
I mean, duh: us two talking also proves we Fans are confused about Specialization. A lot of people in this commentsection - i saw them literally just assert random headcanon. Beware of that, man. Many try to confuse you, Kongroo
Very good analysis my friend! Congratulations for having touched on very important points about chapter 408!
The request was made already. The request is to join them. You UA-cam guys just got it into your head about the potential of the cards, specially yes or no, so yall were expecting some weird request that would have trapped Bork with a No Card. Which isnt happening, which is why Morena says she isnt trying to recruit her anymore now that the Yes and Joker are gone.
can you elaborate on the fact that morena isnt really morena but someone else? I keep this from other channels that do hxh content.
Im confused how a a specialist could get their affnity wring with the water divination test…then i realize with Kurapika he only found it he was a specialist in red eye mide after doing it again, and teror sandwhich may assume he was a transmuter/confurer because he changed the water and made stuff appear in it.
No paternity test is a Nen restriction we face irl lol
Only Togashi would take 408 chapters to finally confirm how a major facet of the power system actually works.
Could be the death of luzurus that triggered the martial law announcement. Could also be steiner. Lots of options
12:50 I would say the punch of Uboging is way stronguer than Silva's and he was specting to rip Kurapika's arm off, aditionally Kurapika know nen only for ayear or less meenwhile Chrollo have much more experience
Ngl I really wanna try to hxh dnd campaign with my friends
I have a question:
Was “Morena” told about what happened to her mother by someone of the Kakin royalty or did she make all of this up to convince Bjorkson & her followers to join her cause?
another thing specialization is in that point of the chart only because conjurer and manipulator have an higher chance of turning specialist as inunavi says in chapter 83, so probably specialist don't have 100-80-60-40 affinities like the other categories
Then why do Conjurers have 60% for Manipulation and not 80%?
No, what you just said is clearly wrong
@@slevinchannel7589 cause togashi fucked up, it always bugged me that only enhancer don't have 40% affinity
I want to say specialist being rare is a retcon as we have seen many even more than transmuters, but most of them were seen in extreme situations (I don't know if this is intentional from Togashi)
the phantom troupe had two specialist but they are from meteor city, the whole mafia community is wary of them, and even silva Zoldyck said they aren't worth the trouble
neon is a nen genius (despite no particular reason is given for that)
chimera anta had at least four specialist and they aren't fully human (morena census would have a hard time interviewing one of them)
nanika is a dark continent creature
kurapika is only half a specialist in extreme emotion
morena life is so f'd up she can't be any thing other than a specialist
we know nothing about borksen but maybe she was "lucky" to be born like that
it's like people with extreme intelligence are rare in population but are overrepresented in research and development
Definetly an Oversight long-called-out by People like me: Transmuters are actually the Rarest,
but now this Retcon makes the Oversight of Togashi not keeping track into a whole Storyline/Plotpoint.
It's not even just Specialization anyway: Look what Morena says shares the Place of Second-Rarest: Conju and Manipu, the 2 most abundant things. We have so many Conjurers people have long asked for less of them. Conjuris my Favorite Type but even i say: Ok, can we for a change actually get basic-Explanations and many-more-Users of TRANSMUTATION?
12.38
i think characters like kurapika and bill dont have that much strength because their enhancement ability is about healing / accelerate the growth its like puting all of your skill points in a specific enhancement ability instead of focusing on the basic/advanced nen techniques (like uvogin did), and thats also explain why we neven notice the defrent of strength between gon and killua because gon focused on a specific ability
what do you think about that and sorry for my english
I say One Thing, Nen-Overthinker::
Learning-Speed
It is interesting how a nen aware royalty would develop cultural norms in its society. Well more like precaution s that turn into cultural norms.
I have been waiting for this the moment I finished reading this chapter I knew your take on it would be hype. Also surprised you didn't talk about Morena saying her ability involves all the nen types it concerns me that she says this because if she's referring to contagion then I don't see how conjuration is involved at all and as for this card game it just seems like a simple application of manipulation maybe with the cards being made from conjuration but even so would that potentially mean she has a third ability or that contagion has an aspect we don't yet know that involves conjuration.
Yeah, I was unsure about that one as well on my first reading, but I think she meant it in the sense that her ability can help foster the abilities of ANY category. Meaning she can equally assist a Specialist (a member of her own category) and an Enhancer (a member of her opposite category) in attaining and empowering their abilities.
I hate that you ended up being right about Specialization's brokeness, as it both adds to the "asspull-y" nature of the category and that it really made sense that users like Chrollo would be affected by Nen proficiency as he never uses skills of categories other than Conjuration, Manipulation or Specialization (apart from Teleportation), and some of the Specialists make sense they have lower than average physicality given: Chrollo himself always avoided CQC against Hisoka, Paku got stunned by a Gon who has only learnt the basics of Nen, and the existence of Binolt.
Also: if Specialists get the 100% proficiency in everything, wouldn't that make Emperor Time useless? Where's the "Specialist" part of Emperor Time apart from a feature every Specialist can get?
@@crocky6996 its because Kurapika gets the 100% not as potentially being able to use them but straight up he is at 100% skill at them, other Specialists have the potential to do that too but they'd probably need to train tf out of it
@@mladen5140 Fair enough, but man is it disappointing his Specialist ability is to cheese out the primary feature of Specialists with no training needed and under very tight conditions. That's boring ngl.
@@crocky6996that's a fair take even if I still like his abilities
@@crocky6996this is the reason I guess the @overthinker got it wrongly. From what I understood in the chapter, specialists are more like to have their own distribution although never stated ...
this makes emperor time effect just a boost of Nen? since being a specialist only allows Kurapika to master every catergory of Nen type?
Well done abt predicting the specialists system brate
Hvala!
as chapter 108 stated kurapika in emperor time still has the affinities of a conjurer, he can learn up to lv 4 emission abilities, when normal he can only use those level 4 emission ability at 40% power, in emperor time he still can use only up to level 4 but now at 100% power, if kurapika with emperor time uses a nen energy ball against an emitter that trained a lot and have level 5+ abilities, kurapika loses.
If only 1 in 3000 is a specialist, how do we explain the significantly higher percentage of specialists shown in the series?
Well you would be surprised but there are much more nen users than directly shown to us
I didnt get the sense Moreina is a fool but i dont think she should be taken as the most absolute metric for how to discern Specialisation even if it is in some sense our newest update towards the nen system.
Cool fucked up shit as i expected from togashi. i was wondering if he was building to something with all the female parts imagery of the nen beasts this arc.
You are a Visionary!
Im low-key sick of specialists. It's supposed to be rare but every other character has the ability
The 4th prices name is pronounced like “sir-ride-nick” for future reference bud 😉
2:03 😭👍
These new generation of kids saying the Retcon in hxh too easily.
Doesn't this sort of ruin the nen system?
I always liked it because of its balance but if this is true then special is just ledges better then all the other types right?
i just don't want every strong person in the show to end up as a specialist, kind of takes away from the excitement that someone is an Enhancer or Emmiter or whatever if specialist is just outright better them them because they can learn everything they do just as well as them.
Yes, it would inroduce problems like a Chosen-One-Type.
But maybe its not so bad and this UA-camr is just overlooing Orcham'z Razor saying 'Morena means LEARNING-Speed is unhindered'
Either way, let us not let the Exciement you mention Die - lets talk about Nen! In my experience, Fan-made Hatsu,
as little support as they get as a cocneptt by Youtubrs,
are always Fun. Never found someone who hasnt fun coming up with cool abilities and then refining them in a group
Yea the translations you read prob got it wrong
I'd say it s more his WILD Interpretation.
CClearly, Morena talks about LEARNING-SPEED,
so what he's saying is just an Extnesion of the whole 'Leaning'-Thing
I really don't understand why people are so dumb...
NO SPECIALIZATION FOLLOW THE SAME POTENTIAL DISTRIBUTION OF THE OTHERS CATHEGORIES...what Morena means is that an user of specialization can use all other cathegories without train in it for the purpose of their specialize effect... that's it...
The potential of use of the cathegories that are part of the way to express the specialization effect (100%) is the natural one that is 2 80% 2 60% 1 40%
If you know about Kurapika you could easily understand this thing...
The fact is that the 99% of the people who follow hxh doesn't understand really what is nen when they saw it and how it work...
Imagine that there are people that still follow the notes of togashi about nen outside the manga is crazy.. many of those informations were totally wrong...
Bad thing that these kind of channels do misinformation...
You dont have to be rude.
But yes, this UA-camr is wrong and what Morean most-likely talks about is Learning-Speed - so basically the same as the itnroduced-offline Concept of 'Learning'.
Specialists probably lean towards many or even all Types
@ because they (more channels) do a lot of disinformation and when you let you see and explain they continue in their directions in the next other videos, and answer to you with the pretend to be right
Tomboy X Twink
I ship it.
Always has been! 👩🚀👨🚀🔫
According to a single interpretation of a single chapter's claims,
what most people immedietly go "Wtf is this intepretation, bro?'... yeah... always has been broken, sure...
0r maybe; plottwist; this youtuber is just wrong and MOrean talks about Learning-Speed or something else?