How to build drawers with slides

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
  • This video shows how to make a simple drawer box and install the Salice F70 undermount drawer slides.
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  • @MM-li8nk
    @MM-li8nk 7 місяців тому +4

    I'm going to attempt my first builds in my new home later this year (vanities, wardrobes and possibly TV wall joinery, fireplace surround, custom rangehood) because of your channel and perhaps a couple of other ones. But your series on drawers and cabinets has been invaluable, along with handy videos like first power and hand tools to get etc. With patience and proper planning I am confident I can do this. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, and the METRIC numbers lol!. I really appreciate your generosity.

  • @dennisbean1710
    @dennisbean1710 10 місяців тому +24

    There are several comments here asking what the differences are that make these slides better and do they cost less than other popular brands. Here are a few thoughts from my personal experience.
    First, regarding quality. The Salice F70 slide has a significantly higher load rating than any other similar slide out there (Remember those wide deep drawers your clients request). Secondly, this slide has a lifetime warranty and exceeds all industry testing requirements. If you are a professional cabinet maker, I would think that these 2 points could easily become part of your sales presentation to the homeowner.
    Price is difficult to discuss here since pricing may vary from one area of the country to another. Your supply source should be able to answer your pricing questions so you can make a comparison.
    You must have noticed that I am a real fan!

    • @mikeb1220
      @mikeb1220 10 місяців тому

      I think the second half of your comment was accidentally deleted

    • @dennisbean1710
      @dennisbean1710 10 місяців тому

      Thanks Mike. Just hit the "Read More" button to see the entire comment.@@mikeb1220

    • @mikeb1220
      @mikeb1220 10 місяців тому

      @@dennisbean1710 website must have been glitching on me earlier, there wasn’t a read more button before haha

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  10 місяців тому

      Thank you!

    • @inmyimage1081
      @inmyimage1081 10 місяців тому +1

      thx for the proper spelling, i stopped watching after discovering that he included neither the spelling or a link to the product at all

  • @philbaker1085
    @philbaker1085 10 місяців тому +6

    How good it to hear an American speak metric !
    from an Englishman in France

  • @devinreynolds-FDW
    @devinreynolds-FDW Місяць тому

    This was a great video again bents and thank u for telling us these things and your a great man and very help ful an I’ll always miss the show and can’t stop sir!!

  • @rdy4trvl
    @rdy4trvl 10 місяців тому +9

    Why use Salice vs Blum? But it must be INCREDIBLE per the title!! Nice cabinet, technique.

  • @AB-nu5we
    @AB-nu5we 9 місяців тому +2

    I've avoided under-mount drawer slides as up until recently, they've had serious weight restrictions when compared to side mount slides. Salice's F70 slides now have weight capacities in the ranges I prefer my slides in. Nice demo video.

  • @kevinb6102
    @kevinb6102 10 місяців тому +4

    Best teacher

  • @paulhargreaves1497
    @paulhargreaves1497 10 місяців тому +2

    Incredible timing! Just about to order a kitchen load of undermount slides! Thanks, Jason.

  • @DKWalser
    @DKWalser 10 місяців тому +25

    Very nice drawer construction method. If I were to make drawers using this method, the only thing I'd change would be to pre-finish all the drawer parts before assembly. I mean, if you're not using glue, why not apply the finish while everything is nice and flat?

  • @DamianDArienzo
    @DamianDArienzo 10 місяців тому +2

    Always direct and to the point. Nice work :)
    Great slides.

    • @dennisbean1710
      @dennisbean1710 10 місяців тому

      www.salice.com/media/Catalog/runners-and-drawers/f70/Salice_F70_usa.pdf

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  10 місяців тому

      Thanks a lot!

  • @daneasley7659
    @daneasley7659 10 місяців тому +2

    Great information!
    Thanks for another great video!

  • @dannybryant6960
    @dannybryant6960 10 місяців тому +2

    Very helpful I do appreciate all the millimeters

  • @patrikhafstrom8954
    @patrikhafstrom8954 10 місяців тому +7

    Incredible and then what ?

  • @tccdlinux1471
    @tccdlinux1471 8 місяців тому

    Excellent great explanation.

  • @dalebarnes5588
    @dalebarnes5588 9 місяців тому +2

    Awesome videos Jason! Well explained and detailed close-ups of your work. I'm getting ready to add a sliding shelf for pots and pans stored under the stove top. Just saw this video after reviewing the Blum video. For your kitchen island, did you end up with Salice undermounts versus Blum undermounts? If so, why did you choose Salice over Blum?

  • @tericottaclay9462
    @tericottaclay9462 10 місяців тому +1

    Grass is another option if they are out of blum slides. The adjustable clips are more expensive for some reason.

  • @skylane182s
    @skylane182s 3 місяці тому

    good video. Please reference the screw you used (source). Please think about a video using the LR 32 system for undermount slides. I.E. spacing( especially at the bottom, which distance to use...16 up and out, 32 up and out. Very confusing. thanks.

  • @apswirl
    @apswirl 18 днів тому +1

    Where and how can a DIYer find these? Their website speaks to professionals and makes it very difficult to even identify what I want - slides and hinges. Any insights will be very much appreciated!

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  18 днів тому

      @@apswirl take a look at these places
      Cabinetparts.com
      Woodworkersexpress
      Hafele
      Richelieu

  • @mackenziemoore9581
    @mackenziemoore9581 24 дні тому +1

    Great video. Are you using the same ply on the case as you do the drawer boxes?

  • @diannemcgrath2025
    @diannemcgrath2025 10 місяців тому +2

    I take back my comment about the salice technical guides and how you installed your brackets. Just a heads up to everyone that salice has many many versions of the products and installation guides. Just make sure you buy the correct product and install them to the correct technical guide.

    • @dennisbean1710
      @dennisbean1710 10 місяців тому

      www.salice.com/media/Catalog/runners-and-drawers/f70/Salice_F70_usa.pdf

  • @shannonlim739
    @shannonlim739 6 місяців тому +1

    Hearing an american using metric is such a relief... I've always had trouble converting inches to mm when I watch other videos :p

  • @greggcoulter6008
    @greggcoulter6008 10 місяців тому +2

    How much?

  • @sethhamilton5824
    @sethhamilton5824 10 місяців тому

    Those look very similar to the Wurth undermounts too, which are very well featured and cheap.

    • @dennisbean1710
      @dennisbean1710 10 місяців тому +3

      Big difference here; The Salice guides are 100% made in Italy, not China.

    • @sethhamilton5824
      @sethhamilton5824 10 місяців тому +2

      @@dennisbean1710 i like that

  • @caslonbodoni42
    @caslonbodoni42 10 місяців тому +8

    Why would I use Salice slides as opposed to Blum? Better? Cheaper?

    • @wynbarkema3922
      @wynbarkema3922 10 місяців тому +8

      That's what I was wondering too. Video title says INCREDIBLE alternative, but I have no idea what makes them more or less of an INCREDIBLE alternative.

    • @bombamanwa
      @bombamanwa 10 місяців тому +3

      There is none, just an alternative that isn't a low quality immitation

    • @alexrains1893
      @alexrains1893 10 місяців тому +8

      @@wynbarkema3922 It's almost as if it's a purposeful attempt to expose both how effective yet insincere clickbait titles are.

    • @alexrains1893
      @alexrains1893 10 місяців тому +2

      Salice aren't better and i'm sure Bent would say so himself.

    • @BeaulieuTodd
      @BeaulieuTodd 10 місяців тому +2

      Ridiculous

  • @Coug1982
    @Coug1982 6 місяців тому +1

    Does anyone have a link for the screws used to mount the slides in the 5mm holes?

  • @WesleyKennedy
    @WesleyKennedy 10 місяців тому +2

    I just want to find 12mm Baltic Birch

    • @mikeb1220
      @mikeb1220 10 місяців тому

      Boulter Plywood in Medford, MA. Family owned and operated and they ship worldwide. Jason also mentioned in another comment that Aetna in the Midwest is another good option.

  • @cireednoc868
    @cireednoc868 3 місяці тому

    What online store carries Salice?

  • @marc82much
    @marc82much 6 місяців тому

    What is the EXACT model number of the slides? A link would be nice.

  • @laneromel5667
    @laneromel5667 9 місяців тому

    Years ago before I started making my own cabinets, I had pocket hole drawers. They fell apart, never again, absolute crap.

  • @matthewlacombe2146
    @matthewlacombe2146 10 місяців тому +2

    Where are you getting your Baltic Birch from? I live around Huntsville AL and I can’t find anyone around here that carries it.

    • @mikeb1220
      @mikeb1220 10 місяців тому +1

      Boulter Plywood in Medford, MA. Family owned and operated and they ship worldwide.

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  10 місяців тому +2

      I got mine from Aetna Plywood

  • @josephknutson4278
    @josephknutson4278 10 місяців тому +1

    Do you have to insure the drawer box is square with these slides?

    • @mikeb1220
      @mikeb1220 10 місяців тому +1

      It sure would make installing any kind of drawer slide easier if the box is square, no?

  • @TongWang-x6l
    @TongWang-x6l 6 місяців тому +1

    good job

  • @pengel200
    @pengel200 10 місяців тому

    I'm new to cabinets, so I don't know all the tolerances. You indicated you were using "standard 5/8" cabinet screws" to attach the slides to the bottom of the drawer. Is the drawer mount thick enough to take up the extra 3.9mm (.153"/~5/32"). I don't expect you would have any of the screw protruding from the base. Maybe someone following this that's a cabinet person can answer.

    • @coolbugfacts1234
      @coolbugfacts1234 10 місяців тому

      yeah he built the entire drawer box out of 12mm plywood, including the bottom panel

  • @Otto-W
    @Otto-W 10 місяців тому +1

    I work for a wholesale distributor that sells hardware along with anything else cabinet shops buy.
    Blum is American made German engineered. Most of the knock off brands, we carry a few of them as well, are made in China. They're good and donthw same job but for me the savings aren't worth it. If you want to save some money find a wholesaler that has better prices verse buying low volumes at a retailer.

    • @PoeticJusticeSC
      @PoeticJusticeSC 10 місяців тому +1

      Agreed. I am working on a set of cabinets with knock off Chinese undermines, and they feel exactly like knock offs. The adjusted wheels are 1" in diameter requiring a 1" space under the drawer bottom (instead on 1/2"), and the adjustments don't work very well. I wish I'd bought Blums.

    • @dennisbean1710
      @dennisbean1710 10 місяців тому

      All Salice products are 100% made in Italy.

  • @qtperfect1
    @qtperfect1 6 місяців тому

    this is fantastic. thank you! what's the brand / name of the red clamps you're using?

  • @LuisSanchez-wf9zw
    @LuisSanchez-wf9zw 10 місяців тому

    How would any of this interpret with faceframe cabinets?

    • @dennisbean1710
      @dennisbean1710 10 місяців тому

      www.salice.com/media/Catalog/runners-and-drawers/f70/Salice_F70_usa.pdf

    • @dennisbean1710
      @dennisbean1710 10 місяців тому

      There is versions of the F70 that is designed for face frame cabinets and another version designed for frameless cabinets. The face frame type is longer so it can be attached to a rear socket at the back of the cabinet. The frameless type is designed to be attached directly to the cabinet side. www.salice.com/media/Catalog/runners-and-drawers/f70/Salice_F70_usa.pdf

  • @JohnPeele
    @JohnPeele 10 місяців тому

    Does anyone happen to know the offsets for inset drawers? Or know where to find the Salice instructions for inset drawers? Or the Blum offsets for that matter, but I would like to use Salice 😅

    • @dublinf4477
      @dublinf4477 10 місяців тому

      For overlay most drawers is about 3 mm offset. For inset I believe it should be flush

    • @dennisbean1710
      @dennisbean1710 10 місяців тому

      www.salice.com/media/Catalog/runners-and-drawers/f70/Salice_F70_usa.pdf

    • @SAWimp1
      @SAWimp1 10 місяців тому

      the offset for euro style inset is drawer face thickness + 37 mm. if you are doing inset in face frame cabs just do your standard 37 mm from face of box. you should be boring system holes before face frames go on anyway.

  • @dereklong801
    @dereklong801 10 місяців тому +1

    Really enjoy these videos. Drawer porn, I guess. Cheers.

  • @Ricks2Cents
    @Ricks2Cents 10 місяців тому +1

    *Are Festools & Matching Rolex Required? Lol* 😂

    • @coolbugfacts1234
      @coolbugfacts1234 10 місяців тому +4

      I'm pretty sure that's a Seiko, there's no crown above the signature on the dial

    • @Ricks2Cents
      @Ricks2Cents 10 місяців тому +1

      @@coolbugfacts1234
      *Lol*

    • @pengel200
      @pengel200 10 місяців тому +1

      Yes! You must order both right now if you want to call yourself a real woodworker!

    • @Ricks2Cents
      @Ricks2Cents 10 місяців тому

      @@pengel200
      *I must be doing something Wrong!!! Lol*

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  10 місяців тому +1

      I don’t own a Rolex. This is a Seiko. I know I use festool, but watches make Festool look cheaper than Ryobi.

  • @garyolsen3409
    @garyolsen3409 10 місяців тому +1

    I quit watching. This America and I DON"T do milly meters.

    • @mikeb1220
      @mikeb1220 10 місяців тому +3

      Apparently you don't do spelling or grammar either.

    • @robinpatterson8754
      @robinpatterson8754 9 місяців тому +1

      how rude and ignorant.

  • @lou9108
    @lou9108 10 місяців тому +1

    I just had to turn it off after your usage of the metric system.. sorry but this is still the USA and not Europe even though Festool thinks otherwise.

    • @5280Woodworking
      @5280Woodworking 10 місяців тому +7

      I’m imperial all the way but it’s a bit comical people get their panties in such a twist over what system is used. By the way, the US uses several measurements within the metric system.

    • @Lugnut64052
      @Lugnut64052 10 місяців тому +6

      I get it, but I find it's actually easier to build cabinets using metric. I can do fractions just fine, but for cabinet hardware (shelf pins, hinge plates, drawer slides, etc, etc) metric is easier and a little more precise.

    • @mikeb1220
      @mikeb1220 10 місяців тому +4

      @@5280Woodworking I know right? It's just a different, albeit more accurate, way to measure something. And when these manufacturers give documentation in metric it sure is easier to use that instead of spending time converting mm to inches. It's unfortunate how close minded some folks are.

    • @stevecullen4131
      @stevecullen4131 10 місяців тому +7

      Metric System 32 standards are pretty ubiquitous in cabinet making. They use a 32mm spacing pattern for the screw holes on cabinet hardware. Kind of hard to avoid metric if you're a cabinet maker.

    • @coolbugfacts1234
      @coolbugfacts1234 10 місяців тому +2

      Sorry, wrong. The USA has defined an inch as 25.4mm since the Mendenhall Order of 1893.

  • @fredparsons5134
    @fredparsons5134 10 місяців тому +5

    Nice video Brent, you do a nice job explaining things and using good close up camera work. I was just thinking about doing under mount slides. Thanks.

  • @bradqueen8483
    @bradqueen8483 10 місяців тому +2

    So why are these better than blumb? No comment on this which is the title of video...

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  10 місяців тому +2

      The title says nothing about them being better. It says it’s a great alternative

  • @mrmajestic345
    @mrmajestic345 10 місяців тому +1

    Would of been better to actually compare to equivalent Blum slide, since title implies comparison.

  • @Hunterworks
    @Hunterworks 28 днів тому

    I was sold until I read a lot of bad quality reviews on rockler for the Solice and lots of positive for the Blum. Any ideas?

  • @AngieWilliamsDesigns
    @AngieWilliamsDesigns 10 місяців тому +3

    These are great. I always love the look of undermount drawers. I haven’t used them yet though. I always thought they were difficult to install. But this makes it look so much easier than the other method. I haven’t checked pricing yet. But these look great.

    • @dennisbean1710
      @dennisbean1710 10 місяців тому

      www.salice.com/media/Catalog/runners-and-drawers/f70/Salice_F70_usa.pdf

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  10 місяців тому +1

      They are much easier than most people think. You should give it a shot!

  • @toolchuck
    @toolchuck 10 місяців тому +3

    Salice (Sa-lee-chay), thanks, Jason I never knew how to pronounce that, lol.
    Another great video.
    All the best, Chuck

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  10 місяців тому +1

      You bet

    • @jeremyprovonsil7886
      @jeremyprovonsil7886 9 місяців тому +1

      And Blum is “Bloom”. Just call their customer service to get reminded every time you mispronounce the name. Haha

    • @toolchuck
      @toolchuck 9 місяців тому +1

      Really? I didn't know that either.
      Now I just dare someone's to say Festool is "Fez-Tu-Lei", or something! 🤪
      All the best, Chuck

  • @JoshuaSpitaleri
    @JoshuaSpitaleri 23 дні тому

    Where are you finding actual 13mm Baltic birch? Most 1/2” is actually under 13mm

  • @flboy77
    @flboy77 10 місяців тому +4

    Can you add a link for the drawer slides?

    • @matthewmanz7311
      @matthewmanz7311 10 місяців тому

      www.salice.com/media/Catalog/runners-and-drawers/f70/Salice_F70_eng.pdf

    • @gregf5730
      @gregf5730 10 місяців тому

      I don't know where you are located. Search for Salice F70 slide. I found them at Woodworker's Hardware - no affiliation. Note they also make a Futura line.

    • @dennisbean1710
      @dennisbean1710 10 місяців тому

      www.salice.com/media/Catalog/runners-and-drawers/f70/Salice_F70_usa.pdf

  • @johnisley4578
    @johnisley4578 10 місяців тому +3

    Great job !

  • @Ryan-rl9pm
    @Ryan-rl9pm 10 місяців тому +1

    Just wanted to say thank you for always giving more then on way to accomplish something. Not very many have the skills or the ability to teach but even fewer can show you multiple ways to get the end results your looking for. Please keep the amazing content coming for us loving to learn new techniques and skills.

  • @joeychgo
    @joeychgo 10 місяців тому +1

    wouldn't screwing the clips into the front and the bottom make the front even stronger?

  • @tc9148
    @tc9148 10 місяців тому +1

    Outstanding, so helpful!

  • @cireednoc868
    @cireednoc868 3 місяці тому

    Where to buy salice?

  • @kevinb6102
    @kevinb6102 10 місяців тому +1

    I made a drawer box like this today. Wow. The best. Thank you

  • @MichaelT8710
    @MichaelT8710 6 місяців тому

    I made 15.25inch deep cabinets. Am I able to get under mount slides longer than 12inch or slides that don’t need the hole in the back? Can you help me ? Thanks.

  • @mindyhall4638
    @mindyhall4638 10 місяців тому +1

    Jason-looked like you had some torx pocket screws; been looking for an alternative to the big head Kreg ones. Could you post what you are using? Thx!

    • @DKWalser
      @DKWalser 10 місяців тому +3

      He was using a Castle 110 pocket hole machine. Castle’s pocket hole screws have torx heads. They also have Robert’s drive screws.

    • @mindyhall4638
      @mindyhall4638 10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks much!

  • @JonSawyer-h6j
    @JonSawyer-h6j 10 місяців тому

    I don't know, it kind of blew me away with technical instructions. If I were as good as you, I could understand, I guess. But I'm not so I flounder just as I did when I clicked on this video.

  • @allmywdwrk
    @allmywdwrk 10 місяців тому +1

    I think your drill bit is a little dull.

    • @awl_in_woodworks
      @awl_in_woodworks 10 місяців тому +1

      i believe the drill was in reverse. Thought the same thing. Done it myself.

  • @martintheron1386
    @martintheron1386 10 місяців тому

    Hi,can I use stainless steel buffing compound to strop chisels

  • @rickbyno2401
    @rickbyno2401 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video. Thanks

  • @91STALLI0N
    @91STALLI0N 10 місяців тому +1

    Where do you get your 12mm Baltic Birch?

    • @mikeb1220
      @mikeb1220 10 місяців тому +2

      Boulter Plywood

    • @jefffuhr2393
      @jefffuhr2393 10 місяців тому +1

      @@mikeb1220Thank you kindly, Mike. Nationwide shipping. Three days to my part of Texas. Excellent!

    • @mikeb1220
      @mikeb1220 10 місяців тому +1

      @@jefffuhr2393 happy to help! They’re great guys, and family owned and operated 👍

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  10 місяців тому +1

      Aetna Plywood

  • @tomsop
    @tomsop 10 місяців тому

    Blum all day, every day, baby!!!

  • @diannemcgrath2025
    @diannemcgrath2025 10 місяців тому

    When I look up the Salice technical guide it clearly shows a cut-out at the underside of the drawer box at the front, immediately behind what would be the added on drawer face, so effectively the bracket can be screwed into the added-on drawer front. The guide never shows the bracket mounted to the inside of the drawer box and screw fastened to the drawer box it.
    Did it all work out for you when you added on your drawer face?

    • @AlAmantea
      @AlAmantea 10 місяців тому +1

      I wonder if maybe you are reading the diagram incorrectly. I've used F70 slides for years, in both push to open and soft close configurations. I've never seen anything in their documentation describing a cutout at the front of the drawer. In fact, since this is where the latching mechanism attaches, if you were to do a cutout in the front, you would have nowhere for the latch to mount to.

    • @matthewmanz7311
      @matthewmanz7311 10 місяців тому +1

      Are you looking at the European or Canadian catalog/website perhaps?

    • @dennisbean1710
      @dennisbean1710 10 місяців тому

      Here are the full tech details and types.www.salice.com/media/Catalog/runners-and-drawers/f70/Salice_F70_usa.pdf

    • @SAWimp1
      @SAWimp1 10 місяців тому

      you are probably looking at the other mounting clips that can be screwed to the bottom edge of the subfront

  • @RabidCheetah
    @RabidCheetah 10 місяців тому +2

    great timepiece!

    • @MikeTatman
      @MikeTatman 10 місяців тому +1

      Rolex Submariner? I was. Thinking the exact same thing.

    • @RabidCheetah
      @RabidCheetah 10 місяців тому +1

      @@MikeTatman looks like a green bezel Starbucks

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  10 місяців тому +1

      I wish it was a Rolex but it’s a custom Seiko. I have a few different ones. I done own any Rolex yet. Maybe one day.