Gen 1 Suzuki Hayabusa Miss (Part 5) - It’s Fixed!
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- Gen 1 Suzuki Hayabusa Miss (Part 5) - It’s Fixed!
The information in this video applies to many other machines; we are simply using a Gen 1 Suzuki Hayabusa as it's broken and readily available.
In Gen 1 Suzuki Hayabusa Miss (Part 4) - Magic Cam Timing?, Brock discusses cam timing and misconceptions about cam timing on his way to the end goal of repairing Scott’s beautiful Gen 1 Hayabusa.
In this episode, Brock continues on his quest to replace the cam chain, as well as the faulty kickstand/switch, to finally end the troublesome miss the bike has been experiencing for over a year. At the end of the video, he discusses all that we learned along the way as well as documenting the changes in cranking compression as it relates to proper cam timing.
We hope you enjoy: Gen 1 Suzuki Hayabusa Miss (Part 5) - It’s Fixed!
Video Time Stamps:
0:00 - Video introduction
5:35 - Prepping starter gear assembly
10:56 - Reinstalling starter gear assembly
16:35 - Prepping and installing the starter
19:28 - Reinstalling the stator cover
24:04 - Properly grounding the starter
28:32 - Compression check after repair
33:09 - Discussing compression test results
36:37 - Reinstalling head cover and spark plugs
42:52 - Reinstalling and wiring ignition coils
46:38 - Reinstalling throttle body assembly
50:03 - Reconnecting throttle body cables
53:48 - Reinstalling the airbox assembly
57:57 - Prepping for gas tank installation
1:01:42 - Reinstalling the gas tank
1:06:09 - Reconnecting the fuel lines
1:10:17 - Prepping and fueling for startup test
1:17:34 - Removing the faulty kickstand
1:23:32 - Installing the new BrockSTAND
1:28:48 - Post-repair test ride in Mexico
1:32:23 - So, were we able to fix the issue?
1:37:40 - Project discussion following Brock’s test ride
1:42:04 - Reviewing the numbers / conclusion
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THX U a mate had lower links for th back they had 3holes in them he dont ride any more so he gave them to me for nothing!! i had them on for 2years!!!! NOW!! i find u on youtube ((no 1 has touch th front end as yet fork are out 5mm as they was!!! sum mates watch yr video lower FRONT!!!! but they say u keep sayin lower th front is for only drag racein so they not sure they can help me for front end (th strap u use can it help me more!!? use them every time i ride on street? have u lower front for any 1 has suzuki 750 iam only 1600mm high i been tryin find seat are very low had no good so far!! h a good
I just finished my Gen 1 timing chain swap out and reshimming the valves.I watcjed all 4 of your videos and followed all your steps to a (T)After 2days and the press of the starter button she's purring like a Tigar and no more intermittent miss.Thanks for the videos
My girl has 70 thousand miles, mostly on the autobahn average speed 130. Now, when I back of the gas, she backfires .
If you have an aftermarket exhaust, the muffler might need to be repacked.
Man, I watched from beginning to the end. It’s badass to see the owner of a company actually spreading knowledge, and getting their hands dirty. Loved every second. I’ll be snagging a penta carbon soon for my K5. Cheers from KY! 💪🏼
Glad you enjoyed - BD
Was thinking this looong video must be boring. Every minute was interesting, and great editing Brock! I'm doing a top end service on my Gen 1 now so this video is perfectly timed
He does a great job on showing the details.
This video is gold he is so good at explaining the good and bad of things...a great teacher
This helped, and I have the same issues to investigate and correct. I've seen the Brock name for years - these video(s) legitimize your brand. They're proof that you're the real deal and that you stand behind all your parts - the claims, the engineering, and so on. I'm a DIY mechanic, so what I save in labor, I put back into parts and tools. Having a mostly stock bike but slightly lowered in the front, the adjustable kickstand is on the list. The billet pins, thumbs up. Whatever else comes along the way, Brocks just got put on the shortlist. The Suzuki Bond, gasoline treatment, gasket recommendations, torque specs, and the tips and techniques of a master, no matter how beginner they are- all of it is priceless. Thank you! I'm sure your dogs appear in other videos, but give them prime time. Pet ownership has interesting benefits that many don't realize, but they subconsciously identify with other owners who share the experience. This increases your audience's attention span and your UA-cam subscribership, which circles back to the Brock brand. OK, going back to the garage.
Thank you for the kind words. We have two Shepard's, both are perfonal protection dogs. My wife's big male is level 3 trained. Off leash verbal and non verbal commands will keep just about anyone from acting foolish around her. Any other time, both dogs are amazing pets and love to be around our grandchildren. I'll keep your recommendations for giving them both some additional air time in the future.
I served in the Army for six years as a Black Hawk repairer/crew chief. Joined right out of high school.
During phase inspections, we ripped those birds completely apart, including the removal of the engines, so we could check every single component and all the airframe nooks and crannies.
What was serviceable, we reconditioned. What was disposable, we simply replaced. As complicated as that helicopter was, nothing I ever did was as intimidating as what happens in these videos.
Even with those stressful years of aircraft maintenance under my belt, I still feel like a boss when Brock explains stuff in such a clear way, I totally understand it. 😄
I'm going in as a black hawk mechanic! Crazy I read your comment
@@macsauce7303 There is a purpose for everything. No coincidences.
Be safe and enjoy the journey, brother. It's a fun (but stressful) job and never dull. I went to Fort Benning, GA for BCT straight out of high school. Then to Fort Eustis, VA for AIT. First duty station was in Camp Stanley, South Korea. Only wrenched. We were an AVIM unit. Spent September 11 there. Scary times.
A year later I was supposed to go to Fort Campbell, KY, but a CSM heard me talking in the chow hall about my mom being sick, so he pulled strings with the aviation branch manager and he got my orders changed to Fort Belvoir, VA. That was a miracle. I spent the rest of my contract there. Another miracle.
That was a flight unit, so we wrenched and also were crewchiefs. Having the additional flight pay was nice. So many good memories. I still miss it, even if back then I hated it and spent the entire six years angry and homesick. Anyway, the Black Hawk is such a beast, and very easy and comfy to work on. I had a couple female co-workers and their smaller hands came in very handy when wrenching in tight spots, ha-ha.
I served from 2000-2006. MOS was 67T first, but then changed to 15T. Had a few close encounters with death. Looking back, God spared my life. I wish I served Him back then, because I made so many mistakes in those six years.
I wish you the best. Always look spiffy, respect rank, pay attention to detail, have situational awareness, obey the SOPs and rules, and never become complacent. That'll keep you out of trouble!
I just binge watched all five parts to this. Excellent. Thank you for explaining in such detail, it's very interesting to see how it's done. 👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
My father run a spring manufacturing facility. They make everything from gun springs to NASCAR springs.
Lol Brock!!! You crack me up brother….
( I have been using “Does the rug match the drapes? For decades.. 😂😂😂)
It’s when you get “No, it’s as smooth as linoleum!”, that’s when it’s #gameon !!!! 😂😂🤘🏼🤘🏼
Looks like it's still got the original starter on it. Luckily that old thing never kicked back. Surprised they didn't get the update done as long as he's owned that bike.
You really like that guy... That mud flap is the first thing that goes. 😂
Hey from Australia..........fantastic series on the Hyabusa.
That older bike puts up some good numbers. Great tuner on a great machine. Hope they still make them that well
I was just on the phone with your support team earlier today! Great guidance and advice!
Got an 06 750 in my shop now. Replaced the stator and whoever did it last time left they wave washer out. Bike is completely done, but waiting another week for that washer before I let him come and pick it up. For a $1750 job, I'm sure he won't mind waiting another week for it to be done correctly. Lol
I see you covered up the oil galley when you blew air in the crankshaft. I learned that lesson last week 😂😂
Thanks for the follow up. Great series.
Great, video series! all good learning points.
This is great stuff, Brock. Thank you.
I really loved this video series, going from the reported problem, through diagnosis to the repair in great detail and explained so non mechanics can understand absolutely excellent. I also enjoy when you do your mapping videos, you sir are a genius ! 😁👍
Awesome stuff. We appreciate you, Mr. Davidson!
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Interesting as always, thank you for putting it together.
I waited to watch this video until I could watch it end to end without distractions. Every second of this video is worth watching. You don't have to have a Gen 1 Busa to learn from this video. Thanks Brock!
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@BrockDavidson It's more than enjoyment for me. It's someone with a lifetime of experience willing to share it all for a watch. I understand you aren't a "UA-camr" in that you put these videos up to help your parts business. That said, information of great value for a watch is a deal just in itself. Thanks again Brock!
@@williamwintemberg thank you for the kind words. You are correct, we have this channel to support our parts business - that said, this video is a great example of not offering anything for sale to fix the problem.... just helpful free advice. Unfortunately, the mechanical nature of this problem makes it VERY difficult to diagnose, so we occasionally throw a bunch of time and manpower out there to help out fellow two-wheel enthusiasts. I call it "mechanical philanthropy", lol. 🤑
Very Informative. Thank you for sharing. 🙏
Hi Brock from Cape Town South Africa. Thank you for laying out your years of experience, gained the hard way, to all interested for free basically.. Even the talk you think might be boring to some has info. You give me the motivation I need to get my 99 busa done and I have info on problems I am still to run into. Much appreciated, thanks!
Great fix bro
When you have tightened thousands of random bolts over years you have a pretty good idea of how tight bolts should be and witch ones need the torque wrench on them.
Some people have the feel others strip threads
Super good job on this! A lot of time, plus the filming! Appreciate all the hard work. I watched all 5.👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love ur video very clean n well spoken, u are the deal
Your laughter and enthusiasm man, love it! Bleeping it out ...lol! 😁 thanks brother Happy Halloween ! Keep up the GREAT work.WARP SPEED.
Hi Brock, big thanks for all the tips and tricks 😀 not many guys let you know about them they sooner watch you struggle ☹️👎.
Appreciate all the hard work editing and the endless camara repositioning.
All the best from UK DAVE🇬🇧 🏁
I recently replaced the ring and pinion in my tractor and used Hondabond2 to seal the cases. Only used Hondabond because that was the closest dealer lol
i enjoyed this series of video’s, in my 30+ years of riding sportbikes i blame the manual CCT for this bikes problems, im sure you have to brock seen these busa’s with 100K miles on the stock motor with 0 issues.
Got to the end... I know I had a lot of comments on this one but I got to watch the whole thing. Lol.
Awesome video Brock. The attention to detail to show as much as you did takes so much work. It's already a big enough job to just do. But filming it all yourself makes it even harder.
That part where you said you didn't have any kids.... Brody is going to be hurt 😂
*kids who run around my house bumping TDC pointers... Brody leaves those things alone 😉
@@BrockDavidson 😂😂😂
Thanks for your throttle cable advise I tightened it too much and got idle going up turning to the right. Appreciate it brock !
Thank you so much for the effort you put into this incredibly detailed run through of the diagnosis and repair. I'm so glad you show EVERYTHING and don't miss out bits that you think would be boring to us. I want to see every bit of everything being taken apart and being put back together, and if there's something that's simple for me I can skip past that part of the video but others may find that specific part incredibly useful! Thank you again Brock, very much appreciated!
Glad you like!
Awesome job, especially considering you filmed it all yourself! I'm sure the owner will be very appreciative, as I was for this series of videos! 👏
Second time playing hey what a great job you did on sharing all the experience you have I really appreciate that I'm going to be playing a Hayabusa soon still looking for the right one thanks again I know it's not easy to do that by yourself and hold the camera good job
The issue we've ran into when retarding the intake cam too far out past 110 degrees, it'll do the same thing this one was doing. Some bikes have to have a switch added to them to disconnect the cam sensor to eliminate the issue.
It only needs the cam sensor to start the bike, not run it. I imagine it does the same thing if you advance it too far.
You can also use our offset cam pin, but reversed.
@@BrockDavidson didn't even think of that. Lol. I've got one in my Gen 2 motor because my cams are a gen 1 core.
You want to hear something funny?... I painted my car back in 2003. I had some paint left to paint my bike the same color, so i could be a "Hot boy". I got all the base coat on my motorcycle, but i ran out of clear coat... Here we are in 2022 and i STILL haven't properly painted my bike! Geeze, i need to get my life together😆
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Mate, You are a wiz! I am in Australia and have an OEM 2003 Gen 1 which has EXACTY the same issue at EXACTLY the same RPM with 41000 km (25500 mls). You might as well have been working on my bike🤣. I have persevered through the full 5 parts (skipping the stand issue😉) and am convinced I can replace the cam chain to rectify it. I have had a 'tune up' and check by a bike shop and have been told all my valve clearances are well within spec and that the top end is very clean, indicating no misuse, but he did mention that the chain was noisy and put it down to a lack of previous owner use (suggested it may improve with more frequent use😒). Although not formally qualified, I have done major rebuilds on cars and engines previously, so utilizing these videos, I am confident to proceed with replacing the chain to rectify the issue. It was also great to get an experienced professional undertake such a detailed video so I can have confidence in the material, rather than a home mechanic giving it a go. The videos were easy to watch and follow, you should pat yourself on the back. Well done and many thanks. Now to go out a buy a degree wheel and order some of your billet pins at the starter😆. Thx, Shane
Thanks Shane! Your reply describes exactly what others say when I tell them how to repair such a nuisance problem. Thanks for the kind words. BD
Thanks for the tip on the torque wrench I bought my first one yesterday and its nice but I definitely just ran downstairs to unscrew the tension I didn't even think
Awesome group of instruction. You should be a teacher !
G’day Brock what an epic video so detailed guys like your selves are invaluable to us DIY guys.I myself absolutely love working my gen 1 as much as riding it. You give us so much confidence on managing these tasks and all it takes to challenge yourself and i fall into a rabbit hole in the garage
So in saying that I dearly thank you for your efforts not forgetting UA-cam Cheers Brian 🙏
Awesome, thank you Brian!
1:32:31 My '22 sounds exactly like that. It's the only Hayabusa video where I basically hear my own bike. 😅
Thank you for doing the full install. You are correct, I hate when people just say "reinstall in reverse." Your videos are going to help me so much in getting my brothers 2000 Hayabusa back up and running.
Glad you like. Let us know if you need anything.
@@BrockDavidson Can you tell me where I can get a rebuild kit for the external fuel pump on the 2000 Hayabusa? Or would it be better to do the conversion to an internal one?
@Walter Cheeks - Schnitz racing used to sell a replacement internal pump that worked well and was priced right. Maybe check with them?
@@BrockDavidson Thank you.
Excellent series Mr Sir, But those wave washers are not good for anything
I had the same problem setting the timing on a 2003 GSXR 1000
Wooooo!!! 😁
While doing a cam chain veiuld putting in a intake cam on the exhaust be worth it if you could find a cam cheap enough and the timing gear for it. Well at a cheap enough price.
Brilliant.
How does this channel have so few subscribers?.
We weren't monetized until 2019...so UA-cam didn't tell anyone about us for over 10 years.
@@BrockDavidson Thanks for the reply Brock.Really enjoying your videos.
Hi Brock. Does this relate to Brake Mean Effective Pressure.
I'm not sure which part you mean, but this is a very good arrival on the subject: www.enginelabs.com/news/the-great-equalizer-understanding-brake-mean-effective-pressure/
¡Saludos from Puerto Rico! Excellent Job professional level. I own a Suzuki boulevard 2014 9k miles and when it's warm up start having a hesitation only at first quarter of throttle above that runs well. It doesn't have any code not even in the ECM , the bike have stock muffler and air filter. I don't know where to start. I really appreciate any tips or advice.
If this issue began and worsened over time - you might have dirty injectors? We offer this: brocksperformance.com/wynns-power-charge-fuel-system-treatment/ I'm sure you have cleaned your filter? Of course, a spark plug replacement would also be in order. Hope this helps! - Brock
@@BrockDavidson I checked everything even valves but the injectors I don't even consider. I'm going to address the injectors now. ¡Thanks a lot I really appreciate your help!
in the "old" days you could have done a voice over for a Brylcream Comerical. A little dab will do you
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How's it going Brock. So, I mentioned I just bought about 2 weeks ago a 2006 Busa and my problem is that I filled my tank and I barely rode it 44 miles, to and from work and now I have a half tank. Do you happen to know as to what it's causing that? Supposedly I can get anywhere from 150-225 miles on a full tank? It did have a Power Commander and I took that thing off I don't need it, I ride twisties and do long distance riding. It' also has a 4*1 Hindle Exhaust System that I don't like at all.
Fuel mileage is directly related to how you ride the bike. If you ride the bike aggressively, your fuel mileage will plummet. If you are going the speed limit and not grabbing big handfuls of throttle, you could have an issue. Putting the bike on a dyno and reading the air fuel ratio can give you a direction. We find that a dirty fuel system can also be a culprit. This stuff works wonders sometimes: brocksperformance.com/wynns-power-charge-fuel-system-treatment/
Once I get my valves done on the bike I will definitely get that product.@@BrockDavidson
I work on a lot of different things but I’m no pro bike builder but I see that you listed the coil packs to in order. Why is that.? As long as the wire is going to the right cylinder which you should it was listed it shouldn’t matter on a coil pack it’s just a coil pack the computer is gonna tell it when to fire what cylinder so as long as the wire is on the right cylinder any coil pack can go anywhere. Just curious why you labeled coils or is it your general preference
You are correct, the coils can go anywhere. I label them for consistency. This is important when trouble shooting individual cylinder issues, it also helps to prevent "magic" issues like problems correcting themselves and/ or "moving".
I have an 03 Busa. I've found a good deal on a 99 Busa . Are the engine's interchangeable?
Mechanically and physically, yes. The issue is with the ecu's being different. As long as you use the stator and ignition system from the 99, the 03 will work.
What part of the world you are in. I have a gen 1 hayabusa I need to put new casing on it can you help me.😢 I am in South Carolina.
Get with @mooremafia
In a year pull those plugs back out of the starter cover... Let us know how well that anti seize helped. Lol
Where is Brock performance located?
blog.brocksperformance.com/contact-us/
hi brock/all WHEN U WORK ON GSXR 1000 lower the front/back th round steel bar u put under th bike was that high for road?or track? h a good 1 all
Most of our links are designed to lower the bike. This is ok for the street, as long as you don't go too low.
thxxx u so much sir so if we lower th front/back as u did then use same!! ROUND!! STEEL BAR if go under th bike it should be all cool for th road? h a good1
iam 600mm/60kg I dnt have any1 on th bike only more!!!! be cause (((((!2up!!!)))))th tyre is hitin under th seat!!! she was 61kg now she got her own bike
Sounds like you need to stiffen your suspension - or perhaps you have a problem with your shock/suspension? If your bike has passenger pegs, it was designed to carry a passenger without rubbing. You are both light weight, so something else is causing your problem.
You said put that washer back cos engineers know more than us, but your happy to ignore thier recommended torque setting. That makes sense
Brock can I ask You, how much adveance You honda crosstourer (vfr1200x) ignition ? Redgards Maciek
I can't answer that question as we have not tuned one or viewed the ignition advance curve. As a general rule, modern sport bikes do not need any ignition advance. That said, some OEM's, including Honda, have been known to reduce timing in the higher revs for noise abatement. If your bike has this, adjusting the timing can lead to sizeable gains....if not, and you advance it too much, you could harm the engine.
@@BrockDavidson I think You work in Guhl, so I can mistake, ... too much is 3 or 5 degree ? ot 1,2.
in full throtle on map is 21 degree at 9 k RPM
@@BrockDavidson Can we talk in private ?
bmail@brocksperformance.com is the best way to reach me. Or call our customer support line.
@Mac Aks - I replied to your e-mail.
I don't know if you see this comment after this whole time passed but I have lost hope I have the exact same problem with my 03 hayabusa it won't go past 8000 rpm and cause I don't know very good English what was the problem that wont let the bike go past 8000rpm?the kickstand switch or the cam chain? Please if you see this get back to me cause I have lost hope!!
Replacing the cam chain cured the problem.
You need to cable tie the chain to the sprocket… there’s a hole in each sprocket, so once you have the timing marks correct, cable tie the chain, then install the cam caps…
You need to watch the video 😉
@@BrockDavidsonI must have missed that one… I skipped a lot :) but glad you fixed it… unusual to have the cam timing out, which leads me to believe that someone was there before you and messed it up… The Hayabusa’s are always a pleasure to work on, I do a lot of them… :) by the way, loved your test ride, beautiful countryside… my test ride is a lot different in Australia… ! Good work Brock !
Is that a stock motor
Yes
Brock whats the best full system pipe u have for the Gen 1 i have a muzzy i want try something different for dragracing an does that sprint air filter work good in theGen 1. Like the do in the newer. Bike
Our serious drag race pipe is the TiWinder. And yes, the Sprint Filter PO8 F1-85 makes as much power in the Gen 1's as our air box lid (no filter at all) but filters great.
Thank u Brock
repair man legend drops 1.5 hours if vids legend :D