Neo- Victorian House fix. How to fix a new Victorian home without much character.
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Brent explains how to fix a new Victorian home. Come check it out.
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Brent!!!!! This is where it’s at! I hope these videos are doing well enough for you to keep doing them. Absolutely nothing on the Internet like this.👍
Cool. thanks for the feedback.
Amazing! Would love to see you put out a book with "fixes" like this, Brent!
Interesting. I'll look into it.
That was great! Nice sketching too! Often in trying to make a modern house Victorian, the volumes of the rooms aren't the same as they used to be. People expect wider spaces, so it's harder to keep it from looking boxy. I've seen some new houses like the example house, here in the Bay area where we have so many Victorians, that people want to emulate. They often look just like a poor attempt, and they don't fit either age in style. Thanks for pointing out how we might avoid those mistakes.
Your welcome. Thanks.
Fantastic 4 reference is hilariously accurate. Great work as always!
Haha. Thanks.
Wow. It's incredible how much more appropriate this looks for the time period.
Thanks.
I just watched it three times to let it all soak in. Thank you Mr. Hull for your excellent work!
Nice. Thanks for watching.
Your version is transformative!
It would be interesting to understand what you think the additional expense associated with these details would be. Some details might not have any extra expense or even save on expense (less complicated porte cochere roof line and no stone work) while others would clearly cost more. Let's say it's +$100k... where could money be saved by builder or homeowner to offset? I think that lens could be helpful so that those looking to build with these details can be educated on the best way to do it within certain budget constraints. Maybe it's the square footage, maybe it must be certain interior details. Heck, maybe there just isn't a way at all.
Anyhow, just a thought. Even if you don't do that, they are still some of my favorite videos!
Thanks, yes, maybe I'll included the cost associated with the changes in upcoming videos.
why is this so satisfying?! this is my dream house now, a REAL neo-victorian, down to the over hang details, the elimination of stucko, and the neat railings
Glad you enjoyed it.
Awesome job.👏You aged that house a hundred and twenty years.
Nice. Thanks.
Outside of a colonial, Victorian is my favorite style of house! Thanks Brent!
Nice. Welcome.
Unifying the style truly transforms that home. You have an eye for identifying those elements on a home that are not the correct style and explaining how it can be corrected
Thanks.
Amazing transformation. Your version looks much more authentic and the proportions look totally different, even though the basic dimensions are the same. I love when you lift the tracing paper to really contrast the before and after.
Nice. Thanks.
Yours is SOOO much better. In my current town most of the architecture is folk victorians and craftsmans. Even when they square off a wraparound porch (on a real one) you can tell and it makes me sad.
THanks!
The comment section was not buying last week's barndoninium to Mediterranean update too much but I think this week you probably won them over. Certainly I liked this one a lot.
Haha, Thanks.
Spot on with that description of the stonework. "It looks like the rock-man from fantastic four" 😆
Haha.
Man, I don’t know how you fixed this but you did--amazing.
Thanks.
LMAO the fantastic 4 joke was hilarious.
I’m an architectural drafter currently, and will be attending school at Mississippi State’s college of architecture… I plan to eventually buy a little land, and building a Victorian home for myself, using actual plans from the Victorian period, not a large home, maybe 1500sqft, but of course tweaking them a bit to abide by modern code and comforts. But overall it will be a Victorian home rebuilt today almost exactly how it was wherever it was originally built
Awesome! Thx.
It amazes me that such an ugly house is only a few details away from one that looks much more composed and beautiful. Excellent work.
What is even more amazing is people buy this stuff and think that it looks good.
Thanks.
Your improvements are always fantastic. Does anyone ever reject them and say no?
Not yet. Thanks
Really great design ideas! I love Victorian. In my area it's common to see older houses that had been on farms to use stone from the farmland or river bed at the base of the home or columns. So I think the stone work as the base of the columns could be motivated if you are going for a little bit of the pioneer house look. Rather than just extending the roof over that portico, how about giving that a Victorian gazebo look?
Thx.
What a freaking awesome transformation!
Thank you!
many people draw Chinese characters because they are beautiful, but they don't think what kind of inscription they got. Thank you for explaining how to do it right!
Welcome.
I love this series! My husband and I often do this exact thing to houses we see where it's a mix of style or people have tried to "update" their house and made it awful. We are currently in a 1970's ranch fixer upper. Any chance you could do an episode on "fixing" a ranch? It's not exactly a traditional style but there are so many of them around the US and I'm sure many people wanting to update these houses.
Good idea. Yes I'll work on it.
I can't help but empathize with those people. They wanted to elevate their house to something out of the ordinary and they didn't go full on McMansion Hell. But yeah, that porte -cochere was off the rails. I have to agree with your other points as well.
Thanks.
Brent, your ideas are spot-on. Thank you sir!
Thanks for watching.
My apologies to anyone that might own this house (as it is) in advance - because it is so ugly to me. That's why I'm loving these videos. I see that house and I hate it - but I only know partially why. Everything Brent drew is so spot on but I just saw - "it's not right" originally. I wish people wouldn't build these they're offensive to the eye. Really. If this was the house you already owned or all that you could buy, I like that nearly all the changes Brent would make could be done in phases to be more budget friendly if necessary. Thank you Brent!
Nice. Thanks for the feedback.
I LOVE this content. Can we see more of these type of videos?
Check my playlist. I've done about 10 so far.
Wow, another amazing transformation.
Thanks for watching.
Great video!!
Thanks.
those are all excellent ideas you presented!
Thank you.
Yes! Brilliant!
Thank you!!
Fantastic job
Thank you!
Loved this and the presentation. Please, more of this. If I had the blue prints to that house - I would be 3d modelling it RIGHT NOW.
Nice. I need to learn more about that. Thanks.
That was magical
So nice. Thanks.
I agree with these changes. Beautiful. The main obstacle besides the massive price tag in doing all this would be that all the windows, doors, and ornamentation would all have to be custom made, and that means made out of real wood and real wood today is farm raised garbage. So with little access to old growth lumber, everything would have to be made out of either high end rift sawn Douglasfir (at the very least) or quarter sawn white oak to last any length of time on an exterior of a house today. Everything would have to be painted with real oil based paint, not today’s “save the planet” latex paint garbage that will only rot the wood underneath it and last for two years until yet another layer of moisture guarding rubber paint needs to be applied. Then find a craftsman that actually knows how to make Victorian style windows with counter weights, and I would guess search for a real Victorian double door circa 1890. Then have a craftsman know how to mount it and work it into your existing house. Brent I know you make the hundred year window and it looks beautiful but if someone is not in the market to buy it from you who are they going to find to do this type of work? Unfortunately, it’s become a lost skill. It’s fun to watch these transformations, and it’s very educational, but in all honesty today’s materials simply do not allow this type of work to survive, nor does the budget. Can it still be done? Sure, but by a small percentage of people that are willing to actually search out the materials pay the unrealistic prices and most of all find craftsman that actually know how to do any of this work if they are not able and willing to do it themselves. Will it matter much in the neighborhood that this house was built in and serve them on a resale value? No. Most buyers that come to buy a house like this do not want to see real wood that needs to be repainted and maintained. They don’t want to see single pane, wavy glass windows. only people that are buying real Victorian houses in historic neighborhoods want such things. But like I say, it is fun to watch and it is educational.
Thanks for the feedback.
@@BrentHull Do you disagree with what I’m saying here? You know as well as I do that it’s unfeasible to make these types of changes to a modern built house. That’s why You have no real response. But like I say it is interesting and informative to watch.
Thanks for doing these! I really like this series u r doing Brent! I learn a lot from it because it is practical application and it’s very helpful to see ur thoughts and design process in action.
Good to hear. Thanks.
The only thing I'd change is I'd put a gazebo top over the carport.
Interesting. Thanks.
Bigger windows on the upper floor level? ...be still my heart.
Haha.
Nice!
Thanks.
That carport looked like it was going to collapse because the overhead stone work was supported on little spindle legs. And the stone work was loose fitted, so it seemed to defy gravity. I liked your fix a lot better, though it still could have used some thicker legs. A contrarian might say you've made the house higher maintenance with all the wood trim - could such details be produced out of concrete board?
Yikes. Please no.
Look forward to these thanks again
Welcome!
After seeing this inspiring video who wouldn't want to turn their modern maintenance nightmare into a Victorian maintenance nightmare?
Ask someone who owns an authentic period Queen Anne Victorian house.
Thanks.
Excellent video. The result does evoke a Victorian villa here in the UK except for that thing on the side; never seen that on a Victorian house; side summer room or conservatory, quite often but not an open structure like they have. A few questions came to my mind.
Was this house built in the Victorian era and the owners want to take it back to an original look - or do they just want a Victorian look on a newer house?
What about the interior. In particular , the proportions of the rooms. Are they Victorian? Will the exterior look lead to the interior aesthetic or will it clash?
This is a new house, built in the last 10 years, meant to look like a Victorian. Most of these new Victorians are just new houses with "Victorian detailing" Usually, like this one, it is not done well.
Great ideas, Brent. Garages were never attached to the house but the porte cochere is perfect, I suppose a detached garage/carriage house further back. I would add a weathervane on the turret. Is it ok with Code to lower the porch railing --isn't that dictated?
I keep wondering about this. I agree that the lower railing looks SOOOOoooo much better in every instance Brent uses them, but will you get in trouble with "code" for not using a higher railing? I don't build so I'm only guessing...
@@brette6117 When I was in my twenties, I rented an upper duplex that was built around 1900. We had a porch that had the original railing: really cute turned balusters. The owners added a plain 2x4 above it at "Code Height," though they did paint it to match. I can't tell you how bad I wanted to knock it out!
The international residential building code only requires 36 inch railings if the walking surface is greater than 30 inches above the grade (measured within 3 feet horizontally of the porch edge.) So if the porch is below 30 inches you can lower railings and still be code compliant. Sometimes jurisdictions alter the code language, but railing language typically is not changed.
Justin's comment is correct. If your porch isn't that high off the ground you don't need to raise the hand rail. There are also ways of disguising a rail (to meet code) that offer better solutions. THanks.
@@BrentHull Thank you so much! Would love to see a couple examples if possible at some point of disguising those required higher rails.
How do we fix add on square box to merge into Victorian house?
Yikes. That is a hard one.
Just curious what code is on a railing in your area? I noticed that you dropped the porch rail below 36". While architecturally correct for the period i wonder how you execute that while meeting current codes (36" here)" thanks
Watch my video on porch railings. It can be done.
Mostly good... but I have to say the spindle-work valance or frieze on the porch is not quite appropriate for the stick style bay, and the turned porch posts aren't quite right either. You're mashing styles. I think you need to go full-on stick or full-on Queen Anne to get the desired effect. I like the doors, but the arched transom is very wrong. The way the roof of the second floor dips down low above the entrance, only allowing room for two small casements is a very bad idea. Overall, good work.
P. S. I'm sixteen. If a teenager can do it right, so can you!!
P. S. You got the perspective slightly wrong, too. I know, it's hard!
I think to get the right house, you need to totally dispense with the porte-cochere. It's overbearing and a bad design choice in this context.
Ok. thx.
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Hmm. Not this one.
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Nice!
Knock it down and start over. Video over. JK JK I kid I kid. :)
Haha. Its close.