I’ve seen some people ask “if they need the money so bad, why don’t they just sell their beachfront house, isn’t that worth a ton of money?” I think the Devs already considered that, since you can see the backyard is actively being consumed by the cliff from all the water erosion, meaning the foundation of the house is compromised, so no one will want to buy it since the house (and the land it is on) will likely be swallowed up within a few years, if not a few months.
@@yaldabraxasI mean, I disagree that crime is the way to solve issues since it only pushes everyone around you down further, but saying that "living too long" is a pretty horrible response to this dawg
One theory I have regarding the gambling is that they try to launder the money - because paying medical bills with big duffle bags of cash is a big no-no.
Yeah, I don't know how Shayne didn't pick up on that. It's pretty obvious that's the case, specially with the NRS letter and the smart one of the boys recently trying to learn blackjack.
@@petekronthere's another guy who did a video about the same map more recently, and he pointed that out: the brothers probably got worried after receiving the NRS letter so resorted to online gambling the money to launder it
There’s a voicemail left on the landline in the living room which is someone from the PD calling the Tran mother to follow-up on her report that her sons are making the weapon parts. This means that, in addition to the 911 call, the mother’s report may also have brought upon the SWAT raid. In that sense, while the Tran kids may have sacrificed a normal life and turned to crime to try and save their mom, the mom sacrificed herself to stop her own sons from making the weapon mods.
I mean, I understand her integrity. Many people would rather die than live on through blood money brought on by their sons breaking the law and dealing with psychopathic murderers. She's on her last legs and her last memory being the sons she raised and escaped her homeland for becoming gambling criminals to pay her bills off, I think she doesn't even have the will to live if that's what the future holds
It's one of the easier missions to clear with non-lethal, so if all the officers are on the verge of resigning, you can run this mission over and over to reduce their stress levels.
As a Vietnamese who is also struggling in a foreign country right now, this map really hits me hard. I nearly broke down to tears after playing the map and understanding what went down, The Vietnamese note on the picture genuinely left me speechless. It's saddening because a lot of fellow immigrants that I know personally have eerily similar stories. Currently I am dealing with debt, involuntary unemployment, and severe thalassemia. Seeing the bills adding up is slowly pushing me to my mental limit. I genuinely have no clue how I'm still around and how much longer I'd still be around, but I'm holding out hope that things will turn for the better.
I love how RoN isn't afraid to talk about social issues (like a bad healthcare system) and stuff that really seems crazy to be in a game. Missions like the Neon Tomb, Elephant and Valley of the Dolls really just showcase that VOID isn't afraid of the backlash that might come with making these very graphic missions that often can get a bit too real.
I do think that it's Perez who brought the brothers into the "business", he's either loosely related, or a low running member of Los Locos, but was just trying to help his friends. The other Los Locos however may not have such good intentions. I suspect the mysterious caller is related to Agent Adams. In last episode we already know he's into 3D printing gun smuggling and taking the Trans as potential competitors, and it's possible he used LSPD to take out his competitiors with Los Locos gun smuggling business.
This mission hit home for me, as someone whose mother passed from cancer. The costs of her treatment wiped all our savings, so I sympathize deeply with the Trans.
In a realistic situation like this the dad wouldn’t get a fine for the raid and the sons would make a plea deal for time served after they provided info on buyers and sellers.
In Commander mode this map hits even harder, because you just defeated a large group of heavily armored and well-prepared veteran soldiers in Brisa Cove, and now your enemies are a couple of young unskilled boys with pistols.
The story of this map, as heartbreaking as it is, could use some clarification as to who it was that tipped off the police. The 911 call implies either one of the brothers or even the father (though hearing the call, the voice sounds too young to be the dad). Text documents, meanwhile, implicate the mother as the whistle-blower.
I wish that there was some lorehooks between the Alt History Vietnam of Los Sueños and this Vietnamese family. Like if the cancer afflicting the matriarch was from Agent Orange...
As a VN I’m wondering if his name’s actually Anh or if that’s just all anyone’s ever heard the other boys call him I think the caller is Jack Adams, as there’s a note in the FISA room that mentions reporting them. As for the call mentioned in the briefing, there’s an unused voicemail recording from Alana Chan getting back to the parents after they visited the station about their sons
They play blackjack to launder the money. This makes them lose a lot, but effectively provides a "clean" source of income for them to report in taxes. They are likely learning how in response to the audit note, and were not properly covering their tracks previously.
I have cancer, and while I’m thankful for the fortunate position I was born in, those medical bills are no joke. I’ve seen firsthand how even if a cancer diagnosis isn’t a death sentence, the debt accumulated from treatment can be.
Might need to revisit all of the missions Shayne. The Home Invasion update added more voicelines to every character and as a result, more context: The elder Tran brothers would sometimes remark that they "should stop dealing with them" implying they did make a deal with Los Locos making the RNG appearance of their members not a coincidence. Furthermore, if detained, the Tran brothers may even mention "they were going to kill us" which implies that the Los Locos were not just working with them, but possibly in the middle of making another offer the brothers can't refuse. So all that money they got, would still not go towards their mother's bills. This may also explain who the 911 caller was: Agent Adams. A note in marker in the FISA office in Greased Palms mentions the Tran family as "competition" so he was going to buy them out on behalf of the Los Locos. But when the Tran brothers started having second thoughts, he decided to shut them down. With all that in mind, there was no way the Tran family would make it out of this. The LSPD raid may have been a better alternative than a whole van load of Sicarios paying a visit. Even if both outcomes led to the same fate.
SLA printers typically produce weaker, more brittle parts than FDM. You'd have a hard time producing usable firearm parts with an SLA printer. Source; wouldn't you like to know, Fedboi
My theory, I think the brothers knew that they had to get out of the game before it was to late, they got ahold of the los locos where they would buy out their operation so they didn’t have to make any more weapons. They planned to use what ever they had made and use it for gambling in order to make their dirty money into clean money. Vinny however didn’t see it this way, he thought it would be best if they continued making these parts and protested against selling their operation away to some gang (hence the phone call)
while yes, they are desperate to pay for their mother's medicine, at the end of the day the weapons they modified were used by some very bad people for very bad purposes that cost the lives of a lot of people in the process. they are pitiful and yes, you should feel bad for them, but they still need to face the consequences of their actions.
"They are ordering parts to make a semi auto into a machine gun" - anyone who knows anything about guns sweating looking at their closet Also just to add rq, that 3D website most likely is just on the web. We have a bunch of websites that supply you with blueprints for 3D printing firearms. (Completely legal in the US depending on state, federally its 100% legal tho) theres a reason Jstark said "you cant stop the signal"
when you go into the room with the money bags in it if your playing in Quick Play mode you'll hear Eli say "Ive seen some benders in my day, this guy has given up." which might hint at some lore for the other officers just saying
A friend of mine commented that the LSPD precinct is too detailed to just be a stop off between missions and speculated that there might be a precinct invasion mission at some point in the future. The Tran brothers might just have the motivation to try something like that 🤔
I never felt good about having to arrest the Tran family; as a human being I understand why they did what they did, and I would have probably done the same thing. On the other hand, I am an extension of the authority of the land, and their activities are the very antithesis of my mission, and I MUST stop them. I love how RoN can communicate such human stories just with environmental storytelling and a few voice lines.
just thought I'd point this out, for the achievement "the Abducted" it marks ends of the earth as a mission to get it. not sure how it ties to hide & seek, and buy cheep buy twice but it could be there just because.
Both Hide and Seek and Buy Cheap are all related to the Weapon smuggling (although we later found out that Hide and Seek also smuggle humans), The Abducted may consist therefore both sides of the event: The chain of events started by LSPD Investigating Weapon Smuggling ring of Los Locos, ultimately found out such Smuggling rings also involved human trafficking. The Trans is more related to the Weapons side.
You missed a phone call on the landline in the living room. And you missed a voice recording from one of the brothers that plays when you interact with the computer in the room with the duffel bags of money
Okay, the books on gambling and the poker chips are 2-fold: first, they’re probably planning on using the casino to launder the cash they get from selling full-auto gun mods, which also explains the NRS note. Second, they would actually be gambling for money so that they could be used to help pay for their mom’s cancer treatment. Not to mention, that if the NRS decided to do a full audit on how they’re paying for everything without their regular jobs doing so, then this would be the perfect story, because it would be an easily explained and understandable one that basically tells itself: the eldest son, Anh, sees the bills piling up after each cancer treatment. Being as smart as he is desperate to help pay in any way possible, he’d learn how to play card games like poker and blackjack, and plays against his brothers to train. But since Anh and his family don’t have much cash lying around, he’d sell a car they own and take out a small loan so that he could bring some cash to the casino and hope to god that he wins enough money to help his family. If there are any melee weapons in Ready Or Not, this mission should have the Tran brothers have them nearby or on them if you could explain why (so if they aren’t alerted to you and are equipped with a baseball bat, it wouldn’t be in their hands ready to smash someone’s skull in. It would be in a corner of their room or the front door. If their melee weapon is a pocket knife, then they should just act like normal civilians if they’re not alerted. If they’re alerted by something that isn’t gunfire or your team, they should be alerted and maybe have their weapons ready, but not for a SWAT team. The brothers would be thinking that some random burglar would be breaking in and figure out what’s going on, maybe try scare them away. But if they ran into you and/or your team? The brother who found you would immediately panic and play defensive, try to back away, or even just surrender outright. However, if you shoot them, the brother you shot at will try to fight back with their melee weapon of choice. And if you kill them? The other brothers would pull their guns and try to get revenge against you for killing their family. Hell, if you kill all the brothers, then maybe the father grabs a shotgun and tries to avenge his sons!)
This one was a tough mission to play through. Not trying to start a debate, but it’s my personal opinion that automatic weapons shouldn’t be illegal in the first place. So role playing as a guy going in to apprehend and potentially kill suspects, and condemning a woman to die of cancer, for breaking a law that I saw as unconstitutional, had my head in so many knots that I eventually just settled on “today it’s my job to be the bad guy.”
When I first played this map with my friend we entered through the stairs to the second floor. As soon as we walk in I see one suspect facing away from me. I tell him to get down, he dosen't so I shoot him in the leg (I am using an mp7), still nothing. The suspect turns around and two more rush up the stair inside alongside the father and they open fire on me. I start spraying, empty my entire mag in full auto. In the chaos my friend throws a flashbang, blinding me halfly. All three of the suspects die and somehow the father survives my volly of bullets. Then I relode and like two seconds later a nother suspect comes from the attic and I proceed to kill him as he fired on me first. Me and my friend found the other suspects and made them surrender if I remember correctly (or we may just have shot them) and we beat the mission saying "that went smoothly" as we laughed.
The best detail that drives in the impact for me is the fact that the stairwell to the attic, which I have had many firefights in, is positioned right in front of the Mother's room. You kill her sons right in front of her, and you likely had no other choice in that moment.
This is probably the only mission I feel bad for because it’s just three brothers trying to get their mom the Medicare she needs and trying to get their dad out of the debt hole he is. Sure they are supplying gun parts to the Russian mob and cartel, but they’re not as evil as them because to what everyone else is doing they look like Saints just making gun parts.
I noticed the car they are selling has the same name as codename of one of the kidnapped girls in car dealership. Probably doesnt mean anything but i thought i will just point this out
Theory: I think our main character is having ptsd flashbacks to his older missions trying to make Sense of it by looking through evidence and remembering the stuff he found trying to make sense of it all.
Timeline Theory: Agent Adams went on a 911 call to use D-platoon to take out the Trans indirectly so Los Locos can only go to him for 3D printed weapons, effectively monopolizing his hold on the market. He can't just ask the Locos to gun down the Trans since they're buyers from them too. The LSPD is the safest and easiest bet. After Adams' call, LSPD contacted the home for over-the-phone interrogation which was thankfully picked up by the mother who confessed everything and provided LSPD with more detail of the situation. That's why the 911 call is a young male voice and the mother is listed as the informant in the mission debrief
The other tragedy is, to anyone sane, none of the modifications they are doing SHOULD be illegal. Although I guess what they're doing wouldn't command as much money if black market increased demand didn't kick in.
One of the things I do not like about this mission is that the Mother just is not Bed Bound. She is quite capable of running at high speed and stays standing through the entirety of the mission.
Excellent video as always mate! It’s tragically sad that the US system and those like it put people into life destroying debt. No-one should be kept from the human right of life saving medical care.
I understand why you feel like the bad guy, having destroyed a family. But during my playthrough, I felt fine because I thought of all of the families those modified guns would have destroyed.
It sucks to have to ruin a family, but it's worth considering who they are selling to. I'm a firearms instructor and security guard trainer, I have worked in the firearms industry in different capacities over the years and been a part of the community since I was 10. By and large, the majority of people buying these auto sear type things, like Glocks with switches, illegally, are thugs on the street with beef to settle with other thugs, and undercover cops trying to bust illegal firearm sales. Fun fact, auto sears THEMSELVES are considered the machine gun, you register the SEAR when making one, as it's not exactly legal to buy due to the 1986 legislation against NFA items (NFA being the National Firearms Act of 1934, which made machine guns, sawed off shotguns and pistols with stocks and foregrips illegal unless you pay a $200 tax stamp, which was the price of a Thompson SMG at the time. NFA was ammended in 1968 and 1986, the '86 ammendment being that no machine guns newer than 1986 can be sold, so if you want one, you have to register it and build it yourself). So that said, given the clientele being largely uneducated thugs and cartels, I don't feel all that bad for the Tran brothers. I feel bad for mom, not even dad. She clearly has objections to this and decided it had to end, because think about what criminals are doing with those auto sears. To be clear, I don't feel as if they should be illegal, the 2A says "shall not be infringed", infringement literally meaning "restriction" or "limitation", but I honestly hate thugs who prey on innocent people, it's my main motivation for wanting to teach people how to use a gun effectively to protect themselves. It would be one thing to me on a moral level if they were selling to every day Joe who didn't wanna pay his government mandated bribe to own a full auto firearm, owning one and having one is objectively not morally measureable, but it's what you do with them, and selling to people you know damn well are probably going to do harm to other people makes you complicit. If that guy really is Los Locos, they are actively selling to cartels, and I live in a border city, I feel the cartel impact in terms of drugs and violence in my city, and I have contributed to stopping some of it through some of the jobs I've worked, and that makes them complicit in murder.
Everyone is saying how sad they were when they played this misson, well I don't judging by the phone call in the mission brief. They screwed someone over and now they pay the price. (They did what Walter White did, if they would have known they place everything would have worked out)
Actually some people have theoriesed that it was agent Adam from the post office map that called them as there's a note on that map saying that he wants to get rid of the tran brothers to help Adams own gun smuggling business
So the neat thing is downloading/possessing files and materials to produce sears, suppressors and other conversion devices is completely legal and covered by the First Amendment. What you do with that information however can lead you into trouble. So websites and other distribution methods of this information is completely legal along with producing your own firearms at home for your own use as long as you're not prohibited from owning one to begin with and it conforms to all other firearms laws (barrel length, semi-auto, etc) in many states. It's the First and Second Amendments working together Knowledge is good, 3D printed firearms are interesting but staying out of jail is even better. Just keep your builds legal, stay safe and have fun
huh, I figured that FDM printing would theoretically hold up to better punishment, especially if used in firearms, compared to SLA printing? personal experience when making mechanical parts with both printing methods suggest FDM parts are more resilient, when the appropriate materials are used
I'm pretty sure the Tip off call was actually done by Jack Adams as inside his office there's some text written about them saying "Report to the LSPD?" as you mentioned in the previous video, Jack tried tipping LSPD off so they'd take care of them and maybe get his competition gone.
The proper pronunciation for Hue's name is closer to "Hway." Aside from that, another common Shayne W. A very good mission where you kinda feel like the asshole in the situation. Moral complexity is spice to a good story.
If this universe is similar to ours, it wouldn't be illegal to access, download, or own 3D printing software, regardless of intent. The actual crime is the physical action.
hey Shayne, is capturing 1440p footage expensive? or hell 4k? I'm honestly asking/wondering, not trying to jab at your current recording set up but just genuinely curious.
This mission is ridiculous. I'm from a developing country in Asia struggling but trying to establish a good health care system despite widespread poverty, and the idea that this family is somehow justified in jumping straight to manufacturing illegal weapons for sale directly and deliberately to criminal syndicates of all people would be downright offensive and/or laughable to a lot of us. The family in the game isn't just better off than most immigrants into the US, legal, or illegal, but possibly most Americans as well. I'm not downplaying how painful, scary, or distressing having cancer, or having a loved on with cancer is, or that people in poverty really might not see, or even actually have a feasible means of surviving outside of crime, but the premise of this family and this mission as somehow deserving of our sympathy and being justified is downright insulting
To think we ruin a perfect family cuz Vinny thought he was doing the right thing by calling the cops yet today we are the true monsters by overstepping the thin blue line
I don't have sympathy for these brothers and I'll tell you why. The idea that this is a "moral dilemma" supposedly without any other option for the brothers would be patently absurd to a lot of outsiders. They have a far larger house, with nicer amenities (even an indoor GYM that's fully furnished) than most homes on earth. They're educated. They have multiple vehicles. They have an internet connection, electricity, and presumably running water. They have a GARDEN and a not insignificant lot around the house which they can somehow spare enough resources to grow and cultivate plants for their enjoyment, not even for growing their own food, or anything. They can also still probably get a loan, or can certainly sell off a lot of their property. They can move, difficult as it might be, to anywhere else in the US freely where tax rates, health care options, and cost of living are more favorable. Even if they had none of these things, even if they believe their mother's life is worth so much more than their own, that gave them zero rights to flood the streets and sell directly to ORGANIZED AND VIOLENT CRIMINALS with which the latter can use against anyone else's parents, or their children. Only the mother in this entire family has the courage, conscience, and clarity of mind to recognize this, as brutal for her own mind and heart to accept her death and forego her medical treatment. Cancer is extremely tragic, but directly worsening a city already descending into chaos when you actually have other options is extremely evil. I would believe this premise more, and actually have sympathy, if it was a much poorer, desperate, and clearly running low on feasible options American family, say a young immigrant doing crime to pay for a child sibling's medical treatment, moving from homeless shelter to homeless shelter where the older sibling can't get a job because of some unfair, or false criminal record. Or even someone directly diagnosed with cancer, acting out of fear and desperation would be more sympathetic. Instead, we get a family that despite everything has more in the way of options, and resources than MOST people on Earth, and far more than a threshold where crime might literally be the last feasible option left for the last thing someone is holding on to. Ironically, this mission would probably be laughable and offensive to a lot of outsiders, both in more developed, and less developed countries than the US. Richer states, often also welfare states, where they figure out that social insurance is not evil and that the individual's wants does not always exceed society's well-being (while still rating more highly on democratic metrics unlike what some American hardliners might say) would look on this and just think this is an entirely avoidable affair. Poorer states, often the victims of even more rampant violent criminality and are more finely attuned on who does, or does not actually have better options, would look at these brothers with utter scorn and contempt. I'm not downplaying the horror, anxiety, dread, or tragedy of having cancer, or of a loved one having cancer. I'm not at all saying that people in poverty might genuinely not see, or even actually have a feasible means of surviving outside of crime. But this family is not like that. Not only are they better off than most immigrants into the US, be it legal, or illegal, they might even be better than most Americans, and still definitely far away from a threshold of utter desperation and lack of resources that would engender in most people at least empathy for taking to a life of crime. And of all the crimes these brothers chose, they picked the one that systematically ACCELERATES the descent of Los Suenos into chaos and violent criminality, affecting worst of all poorer people, minorities, and immigrants.
Dude…..did you watch the first half of the video *at all???* because their house, while it is a pretty big house, is also CRUMBLING INTO THE OCEAN! For fucks sake, half the pool is *collapsed onto the beach* when your team gets there, so their house, while very nice, would be considered a ripoff if you bought the place off them *for a bag of tootsie rolls,* since the house will likely be demolished in the next few months by Mother Nature, maybe a couple years if these guys are lucky.
@williammiller79 has a good point-Heaven help LS’s coasts if the hydroelectric dam finally collapses-but I do appreciate @sudoren7572’s perspective and thorough write-up.
The could have just made a SWAT game but the fact that they actually have lore behind it is so cool to me
The soundtrack is also incredible imo
Copyright issues and red tape. This game is basically a SWAT game anyway.
@@DylanJo123 A spiritual successor to SWAT 4, if you will
@@Ladis1 that was the phrase I was looking for
...until they started removing parts of the game because it doesnt fit the ""lore''''
To make it worse, in our universe half the family would have been shot by the ATF.
And their dog too
@@sethmoyer likely every dog in a quarter mile radius.
@@LegendStormcrow every dog in a mile radius.
@@YourCoolUncleMccroy What dog?😉
had to keep it realistic fellas, killed the family 'accidentally'
I’ve seen some people ask “if they need the money so bad, why don’t they just sell their beachfront house, isn’t that worth a ton of money?”
I think the Devs already considered that, since you can see the backyard is actively being consumed by the cliff from all the water erosion, meaning the foundation of the house is compromised, so no one will want to buy it since the house (and the land it is on) will likely be swallowed up within a few years, if not a few months.
also, you can put it on the market... but nobody has the money to buy it. Kinda like real-life.
@@herusolares5320A bank will buy it out then. Just like in real life.
@@yaldabraxas at the lowest price that is nowhere near enough for the mom's medical fee. Just like in real life
@@SkyDragon1997 Living too long is bad anyway.
@@yaldabraxasI mean, I disagree that crime is the way to solve issues since it only pushes everyone around you down further, but saying that "living too long" is a pretty horrible response to this dawg
One theory I have regarding the gambling is that they try to launder the money - because paying medical bills with big duffle bags of cash is a big no-no.
That's absolutely why, dirty cash in clean cash out even if you lose 50 percent of it you couldn't use that cash anyway
They def are trying any means possible, from fire arms, gambling, ect.
Yeah, I don't know how Shayne didn't pick up on that. It's pretty obvious that's the case, specially with the NRS letter and the smart one of the boys recently trying to learn blackjack.
@@petekronthere's another guy who did a video about the same map more recently, and he pointed that out: the brothers probably got worried after receiving the NRS letter so resorted to online gambling the money to launder it
There’s a voicemail left on the landline in the living room which is someone from the PD calling the Tran mother to follow-up on her report that her sons are making the weapon parts.
This means that, in addition to the 911 call, the mother’s report may also have brought upon the SWAT raid.
In that sense, while the Tran kids may have sacrificed a normal life and turned to crime to try and save their mom, the mom sacrificed herself to stop her own sons from making the weapon mods.
And her own kids too.
I mean, I understand her integrity. Many people would rather die than live on through blood money brought on by their sons breaking the law and dealing with psychopathic murderers.
She's on her last legs and her last memory being the sons she raised and escaped her homeland for becoming gambling criminals to pay her bills off, I think she doesn't even have the will to live if that's what the future holds
This map was always the one that felt the most engaging to me. No huge conspiracies or gangs, just some people who made a bad choice.
The worst part is that this choise is the only one they had.
@@DENOhritkofacts the state of LS implies to me at least that good jobs aren’t easy to come by with the crime and unrest so rampant
Forgot to mention how D Platoon would repeatedly raid the house and bean bag the family whenever a few officers get a little stressed.
What
It's one of the easier missions to clear with non-lethal, so if all the officers are on the verge of resigning, you can run this mission over and over to reduce their stress levels.
I'd go with the gas station mission instead. LOL
The gas station is way faster for that, like sub 10 minutes fast.
I assumed the caller was the FISA agent from the mail center mission, trying to eliminate the competition.
"That'll teach them"
"...sir?"
" *OH F**K* " _click_
Our tax dollars at work.
As a Vietnamese who is also struggling in a foreign country right now, this map really hits me hard. I nearly broke down to tears after playing the map and understanding what went down, The Vietnamese note on the picture genuinely left me speechless. It's saddening because a lot of fellow immigrants that I know personally have eerily similar stories.
Currently I am dealing with debt, involuntary unemployment, and severe thalassemia. Seeing the bills adding up is slowly pushing me to my mental limit. I genuinely have no clue how I'm still around and how much longer I'd still be around, but I'm holding out hope that things will turn for the better.
Hang tough buddy
Hey mate, it’s been a month, please tell us you’re still okay.
@@SealSoft hey man, I’m holding on
I got a job now, it’s not much but it’s helping with the medical bills somewhat
here’s to another month, cheers
@@MaisenOfHarlotsrooting for you, pal
Based signalis enjoyer, hope ur doing good
Oh this mission is so heartbreaking. My grandparents were immigrants and they fought so hard to get to where they are now.
I love how RoN isn't afraid to talk about social issues (like a bad healthcare system) and stuff that really seems crazy to be in a game. Missions like the Neon Tomb, Elephant and Valley of the Dolls really just showcase that VOID isn't afraid of the backlash that might come with making these very graphic missions that often can get a bit too real.
"That'll teach em"
"...what?"
"FUCK"
I do think that it's Perez who brought the brothers into the "business", he's either loosely related, or a low running member of Los Locos, but was just trying to help his friends. The other Los Locos however may not have such good intentions.
I suspect the mysterious caller is related to Agent Adams. In last episode we already know he's into 3D printing gun smuggling and taking the Trans as potential competitors, and it's possible he used LSPD to take out his competitiors with Los Locos gun smuggling business.
This mission hit home for me, as someone whose mother passed from cancer. The costs of her treatment wiped all our savings, so I sympathize deeply with the Trans.
In a realistic situation like this the dad wouldn’t get a fine for the raid and the sons would make a plea deal for time served after they provided info on buyers and sellers.
In Commander mode this map hits even harder, because you just defeated a large group of heavily armored and well-prepared veteran soldiers in Brisa Cove, and now your enemies are a couple of young unskilled boys with pistols.
As someone who works with 3D printers. I appreciate the nerd breakdown of the 3D printers and the possible conversions they may have been making!
The only mission I play with a fully non-lethal load out
I hear gas/beanbag shotgun makes things pretty easy on every mission
Honestly same the whole situation is just sad
The game constantly drives the point that you're a janitor, not a superhero.
The story of this map, as heartbreaking as it is, could use some clarification as to who it was that tipped off the police. The 911 call implies either one of the brothers or even the father (though hearing the call, the voice sounds too young to be the dad). Text documents, meanwhile, implicate the mother as the whistle-blower.
Comments theorize it was a guy that competed in the same illegal arms trade bussiness
I wish that there was some lorehooks between the Alt History Vietnam of Los Sueños and this Vietnamese family. Like if the cancer afflicting the matriarch was from Agent Orange...
As a VN I’m wondering if his name’s actually Anh or if that’s just all anyone’s ever heard the other boys call him
I think the caller is Jack Adams, as there’s a note in the FISA room that mentions reporting them. As for the call mentioned in the briefing, there’s an unused voicemail recording from Alana Chan getting back to the parents after they visited the station about their sons
They play blackjack to launder the money. This makes them lose a lot, but effectively provides a "clean" source of income for them to report in taxes. They are likely learning how in response to the audit note, and were not properly covering their tracks previously.
I have cancer, and while I’m thankful for the fortunate position I was born in, those medical bills are no joke. I’ve seen firsthand how even if a cancer diagnosis isn’t a death sentence, the debt accumulated from treatment can be.
Might need to revisit all of the missions Shayne. The Home Invasion update added more voicelines to every character and as a result, more context:
The elder Tran brothers would sometimes remark that they "should stop dealing with them" implying they did make a deal with Los Locos making the RNG appearance of their members not a coincidence.
Furthermore, if detained, the Tran brothers may even mention "they were going to kill us" which implies that the Los Locos were not just working with them, but possibly in the middle of making another offer the brothers can't refuse. So all that money they got, would still not go towards their mother's bills. This may also explain who the 911 caller was: Agent Adams. A note in marker in the FISA office in Greased Palms mentions the Tran family as "competition" so he was going to buy them out on behalf of the Los Locos. But when the Tran brothers started having second thoughts, he decided to shut them down.
With all that in mind, there was no way the Tran family would make it out of this. The LSPD raid may have been a better alternative than a whole van load of Sicarios paying a visit. Even if both outcomes led to the same fate.
SLA printers typically produce weaker, more brittle parts than FDM. You'd have a hard time producing usable firearm parts with an SLA printer. Source; wouldn't you like to know, Fedboi
theory: you've had experience with printing models with both for things like kitbashing
@@JNJNRobin1337 I only own an FDM printer, I just know quite a bit about materials used in both cause I'm a nerd
My theory,
I think the brothers knew that they had to get out of the game before it was to late, they got ahold of the los locos where they would buy out their operation so they didn’t have to make any more weapons. They planned to use what ever they had made and use it for gambling in order to make their dirty money into clean money. Vinny however didn’t see it this way, he thought it would be best if they continued making these parts and protested against selling their operation away to some gang (hence the phone call)
while yes, they are desperate to pay for their mother's medicine, at the end of the day the weapons they modified were used by some very bad people for very bad purposes that cost the lives of a lot of people in the process. they are pitiful and yes, you should feel bad for them, but they still need to face the consequences of their actions.
This is the only map I go out of my way to NEVER ever kill anyone.
"They are ordering parts to make a semi auto into a machine gun" - anyone who knows anything about guns sweating looking at their closet
Also just to add rq, that 3D website most likely is just on the web. We have a bunch of websites that supply you with blueprints for 3D printing firearms. (Completely legal in the US depending on state, federally its 100% legal tho) theres a reason Jstark said "you cant stop the signal"
As a gunsmith, 3d printing fun switchs don't work it'll break and might cause a catastrophic failure, aka your gun explodes
the music (ends of the earth) that plays when the mission is over makes it one of the best
when you go into the room with the money bags in it if your playing in Quick Play mode you'll hear Eli say "Ive seen some benders in my day, this guy has given up." which might hint at some lore for the other officers just saying
I swear half these busts are just "I'm gonna mess with you, and oh look. They have illegal business running there."
I'm surprised this mission didn't lead to a four mission storyline revealing the largest gun smuggling operation in all of Los Suenos.
i love this map because it's not some 30 man drug raid but just a regular house which is more realistic
A friend of mine commented that the LSPD precinct is too detailed to just be a stop off between missions and speculated that there might be a precinct invasion mission at some point in the future. The Tran brothers might just have the motivation to try something like that 🤔
I never felt good about having to arrest the Tran family; as a human being I understand why they did what they did, and I would have probably done the same thing. On the other hand, I am an extension of the authority of the land, and their activities are the very antithesis of my mission, and I MUST stop them. I love how RoN can communicate such human stories just with environmental storytelling and a few voice lines.
I really like the mission's name. How far would you go to help your family? to the "Ends of the Earth."
I could not bring myself to run this mission with lethal force, even though it isn't real i feel so bad for the family
8:29 1200% APR thats some daylight robbery
I remember watching Hell or High Water where somme bank robber brothers used a casino to launder the stolen money as winnings
I agree this is definitely one of my favorite maps. Hopefully we get more of these style of maps that are more focused on individual stories..
just thought I'd point this out, for the achievement "the Abducted" it marks ends of the earth as a mission to get it. not sure how it ties to hide & seek, and buy cheep buy twice but it could be there just because.
Both Hide and Seek and Buy Cheap are all related to the Weapon smuggling (although we later found out that Hide and Seek also smuggle humans), The Abducted may consist therefore both sides of the event: The chain of events started by LSPD Investigating Weapon Smuggling ring of Los Locos, ultimately found out such Smuggling rings also involved human trafficking. The Trans is more related to the Weapons side.
@@wolfensniper4012 that does make sense, and i guess greased palms is also with the weapons smuggling
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You missed a phone call on the landline in the living room. And you missed a voice recording from one of the brothers that plays when you interact with the computer in the room with the duffel bags of money
Hi wawa
hauled ass when I saw the notification, excited to see this
Okay, the books on gambling and the poker chips are 2-fold: first, they’re probably planning on using the casino to launder the cash they get from selling full-auto gun mods, which also explains the NRS note. Second, they would actually be gambling for money so that they could be used to help pay for their mom’s cancer treatment. Not to mention, that if the NRS decided to do a full audit on how they’re paying for everything without their regular jobs doing so, then this would be the perfect story, because it would be an easily explained and understandable one that basically tells itself: the eldest son, Anh, sees the bills piling up after each cancer treatment. Being as smart as he is desperate to help pay in any way possible, he’d learn how to play card games like poker and blackjack, and plays against his brothers to train. But since Anh and his family don’t have much cash lying around, he’d sell a car they own and take out a small loan so that he could bring some cash to the casino and hope to god that he wins enough money to help his family.
If there are any melee weapons in Ready Or Not, this mission should have the Tran brothers have them nearby or on them if you could explain why (so if they aren’t alerted to you and are equipped with a baseball bat, it wouldn’t be in their hands ready to smash someone’s skull in. It would be in a corner of their room or the front door. If their melee weapon is a pocket knife, then they should just act like normal civilians if they’re not alerted. If they’re alerted by something that isn’t gunfire or your team, they should be alerted and maybe have their weapons ready, but not for a SWAT team. The brothers would be thinking that some random burglar would be breaking in and figure out what’s going on, maybe try scare them away. But if they ran into you and/or your team? The brother who found you would immediately panic and play defensive, try to back away, or even just surrender outright. However, if you shoot them, the brother you shot at will try to fight back with their melee weapon of choice. And if you kill them? The other brothers would pull their guns and try to get revenge against you for killing their family. Hell, if you kill all the brothers, then maybe the father grabs a shotgun and tries to avenge his sons!)
This one was a tough mission to play through. Not trying to start a debate, but it’s my personal opinion that automatic weapons shouldn’t be illegal in the first place. So role playing as a guy going in to apprehend and potentially kill suspects, and condemning a woman to die of cancer, for breaking a law that I saw as unconstitutional, had my head in so many knots that I eventually just settled on “today it’s my job to be the bad guy.”
Yeah, I’d hate to have to be one of the swat guys in a real scenario like this.
When I first played this map with my friend we entered through the stairs to the second floor. As soon as we walk in I see one suspect facing away from me. I tell him to get down, he dosen't so I shoot him in the leg (I am using an mp7), still nothing. The suspect turns around and two more rush up the stair inside alongside the father and they open fire on me. I start spraying, empty my entire mag in full auto. In the chaos my friend throws a flashbang, blinding me halfly. All three of the suspects die and somehow the father survives my volly of bullets. Then I relode and like two seconds later a nother suspect comes from the attic and I proceed to kill him as he fired on me first. Me and my friend found the other suspects and made them surrender if I remember correctly (or we may just have shot them) and we beat the mission saying "that went smoothly" as we laughed.
We doing nothing but S rank with zero smoke bombs, teargas, or CS gas with this one!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️(also, Shayne, please keep cooking)
This was the first and only mission I cared to S rank, as a 2nd gen immi shit hits home
The best detail that drives in the impact for me is the fact that the stairwell to the attic, which I have had many firefights in, is positioned right in front of the Mother's room. You kill her sons right in front of her, and you likely had no other choice in that moment.
We have to thank God that the ATF was not sent to the place
This is probably the only mission I feel bad for because it’s just three brothers trying to get their mom the Medicare she needs and trying to get their dad out of the debt hole he is. Sure they are supplying gun parts to the Russian mob and cartel, but they’re not as evil as them because to what everyone else is doing they look like Saints just making gun parts.
shane never stop talking
I noticed the car they are selling has the same name as codename of one of the kidnapped girls in car dealership. Probably doesnt mean anything but i thought i will just point this out
the car dealership codenamed the girls after cars . For comunications i would say
I definitely feel like the bad guy in this map, it feels so unfair we go after this family when the city is filled with so much unrest and terorr
When I played this mission I only used less lethal and arrested them all rather than shooting
always excited for your vids bro
Theory: I think our main character is having ptsd flashbacks to his older missions trying to make Sense of it by looking through evidence and remembering the stuff he found trying to make sense of it all.
Timeline Theory: Agent Adams went on a 911 call to use D-platoon to take out the Trans indirectly so Los Locos can only go to him for 3D printed weapons, effectively monopolizing his hold on the market. He can't just ask the Locos to gun down the Trans since they're buyers from them too. The LSPD is the safest and easiest bet.
After Adams' call, LSPD contacted the home for over-the-phone interrogation which was thankfully picked up by the mother who confessed everything and provided LSPD with more detail of the situation. That's why the 911 call is a young male voice and the mother is listed as the informant in the mission debrief
The other tragedy is, to anyone sane, none of the modifications they are doing SHOULD be illegal. Although I guess what they're doing wouldn't command as much money if black market increased demand didn't kick in.
Ah yes, renowned LSPD officer "lung cancer stage IV". He's a monster for destroying a family like this.
One of the things I do not like about this mission is that the Mother just is not Bed Bound.
She is quite capable of running at high speed and stays standing through the entirety of the mission.
shayne please dont shut up your vids are amazing
2:17 bro is not making it out without getting arrested 💀
love the videos keep em coming
Excellent video as always mate! It’s tragically sad that the US system and those like it put people into life destroying debt. No-one should be kept from the human right of life saving medical care.
Another great video! (Its one of my favorite maps in RoN)
I understand why you feel like the bad guy, having destroyed a family. But during my playthrough, I felt fine because I thought of all of the families those modified guns would have destroyed.
It sucks to have to ruin a family, but it's worth considering who they are selling to. I'm a firearms instructor and security guard trainer, I have worked in the firearms industry in different capacities over the years and been a part of the community since I was 10. By and large, the majority of people buying these auto sear type things, like Glocks with switches, illegally, are thugs on the street with beef to settle with other thugs, and undercover cops trying to bust illegal firearm sales. Fun fact, auto sears THEMSELVES are considered the machine gun, you register the SEAR when making one, as it's not exactly legal to buy due to the 1986 legislation against NFA items (NFA being the National Firearms Act of 1934, which made machine guns, sawed off shotguns and pistols with stocks and foregrips illegal unless you pay a $200 tax stamp, which was the price of a Thompson SMG at the time. NFA was ammended in 1968 and 1986, the '86 ammendment being that no machine guns newer than 1986 can be sold, so if you want one, you have to register it and build it yourself).
So that said, given the clientele being largely uneducated thugs and cartels, I don't feel all that bad for the Tran brothers. I feel bad for mom, not even dad. She clearly has objections to this and decided it had to end, because think about what criminals are doing with those auto sears. To be clear, I don't feel as if they should be illegal, the 2A says "shall not be infringed", infringement literally meaning "restriction" or "limitation", but I honestly hate thugs who prey on innocent people, it's my main motivation for wanting to teach people how to use a gun effectively to protect themselves. It would be one thing to me on a moral level if they were selling to every day Joe who didn't wanna pay his government mandated bribe to own a full auto firearm, owning one and having one is objectively not morally measureable, but it's what you do with them, and selling to people you know damn well are probably going to do harm to other people makes you complicit. If that guy really is Los Locos, they are actively selling to cartels, and I live in a border city, I feel the cartel impact in terms of drugs and violence in my city, and I have contributed to stopping some of it through some of the jobs I've worked, and that makes them complicit in murder.
the sad part to me, these kids are just buying for a few more minutes
one way or another she is just going to die
Everyone is saying how sad they were when they played this misson, well I don't judging by the phone call in the mission brief.
They screwed someone over and now they pay the price. (They did what Walter White did, if they would have known they place everything would have worked out)
Actually some people have theoriesed that it was agent Adam from the post office map that called them as there's a note on that map saying that he wants to get rid of the tran brothers to help Adams own gun smuggling business
So the neat thing is downloading/possessing files and materials to produce sears, suppressors and other conversion devices is completely legal and covered by the First Amendment.
What you do with that information however can lead you into trouble.
So websites and other distribution methods of this information is completely legal along with producing your own firearms at home for your own use as long as you're not prohibited from owning one to begin with and it conforms to all other firearms laws (barrel length, semi-auto, etc) in many states. It's the First and Second Amendments working together
Knowledge is good, 3D printed firearms are interesting but staying out of jail is even better. Just keep your builds legal, stay safe and have fun
huh, I figured that FDM printing would theoretically hold up to better punishment, especially if used in firearms, compared to SLA printing? personal experience when making mechanical parts with both printing methods suggest FDM parts are more resilient, when the appropriate materials are used
I'm pretty sure the Tip off call was actually done by Jack Adams as inside his office there's some text written about them saying "Report to the LSPD?" as you mentioned in the previous video, Jack tried tipping LSPD off so they'd take care of them and maybe get his competition gone.
Alternatively, one or more of the Tran could cut a deal with LSPD and become an informant, appearing later in a mission involving Los Locos.
is it bad that every time I watch a video about this mission, I am immediately sent back into the old Dr Tran videos? XD
First mission I fully went non-lethal on.
I feel like the elephant mission couldn't really have any lore but I would love if you still did a video on it.
The proper pronunciation for Hue's name is closer to "Hway." Aside from that, another common Shayne W. A very good mission where you kinda feel like the asshole in the situation. Moral complexity is spice to a good story.
hell nah they added the scummy ATF dog killers 💀💀
The Tran family reminds me of the White Family from Breaking Bad
As a Vietnamese, your pronunciation is... commendable
He butchered every single one.
This seems a little to close to a certain ridge in fact a few of the missions are very similar to real life events throughout history 😳
If this universe is similar to ours, it wouldn't be illegal to access, download, or own 3D printing software, regardless of intent. The actual crime is the physical action.
My man!!
hey Shayne, is capturing 1440p footage expensive? or hell 4k? I'm honestly asking/wondering, not trying to jab at your current recording set up but just genuinely curious.
This is getting a little too real
Does this situation with the crime to pay medical bills happen in real life? I am european so this scenario feels very dystopian.
Wouldn’t be surprised.
This mission is ridiculous. I'm from a developing country in Asia struggling but trying to establish a good health care system despite widespread poverty, and the idea that this family is somehow justified in jumping straight to manufacturing illegal weapons for sale directly and deliberately to criminal syndicates of all people would be downright offensive and/or laughable to a lot of us. The family in the game isn't just better off than most immigrants into the US, legal, or illegal, but possibly most Americans as well.
I'm not downplaying how painful, scary, or distressing having cancer, or having a loved on with cancer is, or that people in poverty really might not see, or even actually have a feasible means of surviving outside of crime, but the premise of this family and this mission as somehow deserving of our sympathy and being justified is downright insulting
Yes, quite a lot, sadly.
The real cause of most evil in this game is for money, and in real life. Who’s really evil, us, or the 100 dollar bill
Kinda disappointed they aren't armed with a fgc or just 3d printed guns because duh???
This mission made me sad
I misread it as kaworu
You guys maybe, I got s rank everyone loves another day
Even mom ( shame that bag of cash went missing)
To think we ruin a perfect family cuz Vinny thought he was doing the right thing by calling the cops yet today we are the true monsters by overstepping the thin blue line
Nguyen is pronounced "Win"
although a bare few will pronounce it the way the briefer pronounced it
a rubber band will do the same thing lol.
Breaking bad map
I don't have sympathy for these brothers and I'll tell you why.
The idea that this is a "moral dilemma" supposedly without any other option for the brothers would be patently absurd to a lot of outsiders. They have a far larger house, with nicer amenities (even an indoor GYM that's fully furnished) than most homes on earth. They're educated. They have multiple vehicles. They have an internet connection, electricity, and presumably running water. They have a GARDEN and a not insignificant lot around the house which they can somehow spare enough resources to grow and cultivate plants for their enjoyment, not even for growing their own food, or anything. They can also still probably get a loan, or can certainly sell off a lot of their property. They can move, difficult as it might be, to anywhere else in the US freely where tax rates, health care options, and cost of living are more favorable. Even if they had none of these things, even if they believe their mother's life is worth so much more than their own, that gave them zero rights to flood the streets and sell directly to ORGANIZED AND VIOLENT CRIMINALS with which the latter can use against anyone else's parents, or their children. Only the mother in this entire family has the courage, conscience, and clarity of mind to recognize this, as brutal for her own mind and heart to accept her death and forego her medical treatment. Cancer is extremely tragic, but directly worsening a city already descending into chaos when you actually have other options is extremely evil.
I would believe this premise more, and actually have sympathy, if it was a much poorer, desperate, and clearly running low on feasible options American family, say a young immigrant doing crime to pay for a child sibling's medical treatment, moving from homeless shelter to homeless shelter where the older sibling can't get a job because of some unfair, or false criminal record. Or even someone directly diagnosed with cancer, acting out of fear and desperation would be more sympathetic. Instead, we get a family that despite everything has more in the way of options, and resources than MOST people on Earth, and far more than a threshold where crime might literally be the last feasible option left for the last thing someone is holding on to.
Ironically, this mission would probably be laughable and offensive to a lot of outsiders, both in more developed, and less developed countries than the US. Richer states, often also welfare states, where they figure out that social insurance is not evil and that the individual's wants does not always exceed society's well-being (while still rating more highly on democratic metrics unlike what some American hardliners might say) would look on this and just think this is an entirely avoidable affair. Poorer states, often the victims of even more rampant violent criminality and are more finely attuned on who does, or does not actually have better options, would look at these brothers with utter scorn and contempt.
I'm not downplaying the horror, anxiety, dread, or tragedy of having cancer, or of a loved one having cancer. I'm not at all saying that people in poverty might genuinely not see, or even actually have a feasible means of surviving outside of crime. But this family is not like that. Not only are they better off than most immigrants into the US, be it legal, or illegal, they might even be better than most Americans, and still definitely far away from a threshold of utter desperation and lack of resources that would engender in most people at least empathy for taking to a life of crime. And of all the crimes these brothers chose, they picked the one that systematically ACCELERATES the descent of Los Suenos into chaos and violent criminality, affecting worst of all poorer people, minorities, and immigrants.
Dude…..did you watch the first half of the video *at all???* because their house, while it is a pretty big house, is also CRUMBLING INTO THE OCEAN! For fucks sake, half the pool is *collapsed onto the beach* when your team gets there, so their house, while very nice, would be considered a ripoff if you bought the place off them *for a bag of tootsie rolls,* since the house will likely be demolished in the next few months by Mother Nature, maybe a couple years if these guys are lucky.
@williammiller79 has a good point-Heaven help LS’s coasts if the hydroelectric dam finally collapses-but I do appreciate @sudoren7572’s perspective and thorough write-up.