Does The CFMOTO 450 SS Really Suck?
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
- This cfmoto 450 ss is not at all what I expected. Its a good solid bike. I couldn't find anything that would make me think it needs to be any better than it is. If your in the market for one. Give it a test ride it will surprise you.
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Parts have gotten much easier to get. Service can be done in a hour or two. I can really lean this in a corner and accelerate coming out.
Ya I spoke with this guy off camera for a while and it’s fairly impressive. He has done a lot from cosmetics like those red stickers over the headlight. Intake exhaust. Moved the pegs a little. There is a decent amount of aftermarket for a bike that’s technically new !
Agree! Great handling, nimble bike! Loving mine too! Be safe! 😎👍🏼
Thank you same goes for you.
Been wanting a beginner bike for some time now, At first I only thought about having this bike, but because of this review, I am now sure I must have it! 😂 Thanks for this great review!❤
Sweet !! Thank you. It really is a solid bike ! Enjoy it when you get it!
I just rode mine today live in Wisconsin ripped it down 21 miles down high way at 70 mph on a balmy 41° day. Love the 450SS
That’s funny that’s exactly how it was when I rode this bike. Which for me in Florida is basically freezing !!!
@@NostalgicMotorcycles basically a warm day here, we hit the high 30's and people wearing shorts.
Nope. I refuse. I lived up north as a child and will not do it again. I much prefer being hot !
@@NostalgicMotorcycles being descendant of Scandinavian blood makes it easier.
Ya besides this last generation I can say my family has always been very close to the equator.
Waiting for the 675SR, CFMoto said they'll announce and release it some time this year
WHAT!!! Do you know how many cylinders ? I think it would be 3 ?
@@NostalgicMotorcycles Yes, it's a 3 Cylinder. Their upcoming 500SR is a 4 cylinder (somewhat looks like the 450SR with the teaser they did last year)
@@hexadecimal1517 From my experience on the 450 It will be worth a try. The 450 isa good solid bike. When/if it comes out. Ill find one to ride.
Currently owning my 450 for 6 months. If my bike can go 2 years without failing then I'm definitely gonna buy that 675sr.
And you will probably get it! I haven’t heard crap about reliability. And that la what people want to complain about the most
Very descriptive review. Sometimes I think about getting an older supersport but sometimes I think this bike will suit me well.
Thank you very much. I will have to tell you pick the bike you trust yourself with. If you want to go "fast" this isn't it. But if you think you're not responsible enough to ride slowly with a fast bike. It's a solid option. Anyone can learn on anything its really how well you can keep yourself in your comfort zone. I personally can't keep myself in my comfort zone. So, I got a slower bike to start. This is a nice bike for what it is. if you want a 600 it won't scratch that itch.
@@NostalgicMotorcycles I think this bike is plenty fast enough for the street. I used to own a R6. I get carried away too often no matter how much I tell myself not to. I rode my buddies R3. It was just missing a few things that this bike can make up for. Biggest thing for me is that I’m getting a bit older and would like a less aggressive stance than a R6 and not the cheap buzz exhaust from a R3. Or should I wait for the CFmoto 500ss?
@@nhiathor8155 I don't even know is the 500ss will be a thing I didn't research anything on these bikes to be honest. Those are my raw uneducated thoughts. I can tell you its Smooth. The tone on the exhaust I liked due to the depth of the sound. The bike is fairly upright (in your torso) but the legs are a little cramped. I am 5'10". Its not uncomfortable just more than I expected but with a straight back and higher bars then a 600 its comfortable. We Rode 200 miles that day and I never felt tired. Hell I don't think I remember moving around at all in the seat to find a good spot. I sat and did not have to adjust as we rode.
@@NostalgicMotorcycles The 500ss is the 4cylinder version and the 675 is the three cylinder. Both were launched on the track. Only time will tell when they will be released.
I do like this bike a lot based on reviews and looks. I’m 5’9” and like to have my feet well planted when sitting at the light. I usually compare my experience with my previous bike the R6. I do not like the aggressive stance but prefer a 4 cylinder sound. I know naked bikes are upright but I do not like the look of a naked bike. I’m leaning towards this bike, the CBR650R, or whenever the 500ss be released.
I fully understand. I would like to try both of those when they come out. And yes the 4cylinder sound is my preference as well but this 2 cylinder sounds aggressive. It’s a good sound.
Good content man!
Hell ya thank you very much. I appreciate it. Just for my future reference what about it did you like ?
Stunning bike! I’m seriously considering this over a Ninja 400/500 as I’m only going to use it for street and FWY cruising. This review has convinced me to buy a brand new 450SS to begin my learning journey on. Thanks!
Honeslty equal quality yet alot more features. It’s impressive ! I can whole heartedly say this bike won’t let you down if you’re looking for a good quality small displacement sport bike.
@@NostalgicMotorcycles Thanks mate. I’m sure it’ll give me smiles for miles! 😅
Oh ya for sure ! Even getting go off a faster bike it’s still fun ! Way more comfortable for sure !
@@NostalgicMotorcycles How would you describe the seating ergonomics? Not too aggressive? Comfortable and upright?
@@mervyoung5397 not too aggressive. still leaned forwards with bars slightly more upright than a 600 SuperSport. I found my legs to be more cramped than expected at first yet it never bothered me the entire ride 3+ hours. The owner did tell me that is adjustable or can be modified if your taller. 5'10". so sporty on the lower half and slightly upright on the top half. IF you have "Long arms" you may be able to get upright when needed. I have a 6 foot wing span.
Great honest review
Always that’s the goal. Thank you very much !?
Great review!.. I'd be more than happy with that kinda live by the adage more fun (and safe) to ride a slow bike fast 😉
Yes that is very true ! I can say this about that statement. It is more fun to slow bike fast but. Once you get experience and time on the saddle your definition of slow gets faster as your ride. That is something to consider.
The option to goto GP shift seems to be an amazing option.
I learned this after but it’s build in you can do it yourself. Remove one screw, move the selector rod to the other hole, and screw it back on (may require slight adjustment). It’s literally built in
Good review. New subscriber.
Thank you very much I appreciate. What part of the world are you on ?
@@NostalgicMotorcycles A planet known as Oklahoma.
😂 nice ! Very different riding over there that’s for sure !
Gotten 131mph/210kmh once on a this bike. So can't complain much. Pretty good for a 450 bike
Yes for sure. It handles a lot better than I thought at the top end. It’s not a 600 but it was more than I expected for sure.
Yup, this review cemented my decision to get 450ss as a jump from 125cc scooter. Not too fast just perfect for for begginers who entered big bikes category.
You will love it man ! It’s nice smooth power but not excessive. I think it’ll be a fun one for you.
At my midlife crysis in motorcycling a 450 SS would have been a blast.....
For a more advanced and bigger guy, they need to go to the 675 CC they promised or the 1000CC :D....
For me at 5'10 and 200 lbs, I'm too big for that bike, but I did like the test ride.
Great entry to mid level bike.....
It can handle your size and weight just fine ! I’m 5’10” 185. You will be fine. That you want more speed 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️. That just makes it not your bike but it can handle it !
@@NostalgicMotorcycles Nope, I want a longer bike to sit better :)).... A 675 is smallish, an 800 is fine, an 900 is good, an 1000 is big. Imagine me doing 600-1000 km a day on a pocket bike and it's not that confi. That's why I want a bigger bike, not to ride in first gear everywhere :))..... If it was a performace and speed choise, I wouldn't have even test riden a 450 SS.
Ahhh I understand lol. They make the big bikes and they are still capable of going slow. Some choose not to but it’s always an option.
I love that key holder😊
It’s funny. Very fitting for the bike.
Thanks, I appreciate it. Just came to me 😂
😂😂😂
I honestly think it's a good looking bike man
It is. I think its alot of bike for the price man. Very Good deal and its not low quality. It looks and FEELS good
If anything depending on how hard the fall is... the winglets are built in fairing sliders. I own one too
Lmfao that’s funny but they aren’t that sturdy. They look good though it’s a good looking bike.
Just got the 450srs (Australia), but I can't fault it. Only "issue" is waiting for parts to be designed, etc. Have upgraded with the titanium shifter, brake and clutch levers, and the new Yoshimura 450SS 23-24 AT2 Stainess Slip-On Exhaust, W/ Muffler. Smooth ride and fun.
Hell ya man. It is a newer bike so it always does take a little to get things rolling in the aftermarket.
Does the Yoshimura AT2 sound really nice on the bike? I just ordered one from the US and it arrives in Australia in the coming weeks, can't Wait!!
@@markedreaper6491 not sure which model this bike had but it is a deep clean sound. Not the loudest but I like it. It’s aggressive.
@@NostalgicMotorcycles Thank you! That's what I want to hear from mine!!
@@markedreaper6491 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽 enjoy. Would love to hear what you think when you get it on. I think it’s a throaty sound almost as if the bike was bigger in displacement
I have the SS450 and love it, I also have the NK, I thought the SS was a little uncomfortable so I snagged the NK, for some reason, I still go to the SS, you gotta get the tall seat though imo if you're over 5'9"
If im not mistaken this bike had the tall seat on it. I think not 100% sure. what made you go with your NK?
@@NostalgicMotorcycles
Ah, that's good. I'm old and stiff and do find the SS a little cramped, I roadraced years ago so I can handle it but for quick rides up the mtn or the gym, the NK is handy with it's more relaxed ergos.
@@retrothruster2539 Understood. So the NK is just a better bike for longer riders for you. Hey I get it! I cant pick one either so I understand.
From what I've learned online KTM owns 49% of cfmoto. I have been totally impressed with my 22 cfmoto adventura. I've owned about every brand from Harley, Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha and Bigdog and much to my surprise this little 650 adventura is my favorite.
I’m considering owning one lmaoo. My wife would love it and it’s a short trip machine. If they had a 700 twin I would pick it over an r7(which is what my wife wants)
a very fun bike to ride.
be safe, ride safe.
Yes it is ! And thank you
One of the better reviews on the bike
Oh ya. Thank you ! What about it if you don’t mind me asking
Its very interesting. In México, we consider a begginer bike a 150, 200 or 250cc bike, and the upgrade are the 300-450cc options (mt03, ninja 400, this 450r) and ive seen a lot of videos where those are bikes for newbies.
Yes. Those are the bikes we get our licenses on here in the U.S. my first bike was a 750. And I have not gotten a smaller bike since then. So compared to what we have as options those bikes are “small” compared to what we have access to.
yeah its interesting, in Portugal is the same, a begging bike is a 125cc, 250 cc
@@speedymarc Ya we dont use alot of reason in america lol.
@@speedymarcyou cant even ride the highways with these here..
Where is here ?
How does the cf moto match up against the cbr500r? Since it's really 471, unless mods
lol different. One being a parallel twin the other an I4.
The cf is going to give you more useable down low power with less overall power.
The cbr will need to be revved a little more using more throttle but will provide a little more excitement at the top end.
I would say the cbr is go fast the cf is feel fast. Honeslty it’s really what type of power deliver you prefer.
Ergos won’t be upsetting if you’re sized for the bike either way. Cf will have more tech but really it’s what you prefer on the engine side.
There actually is a recal. Its for the T box. Only '23 model
Gotcha. There is bound to be more I’m sure.
Nice video. But why does everyone is expecting from any driver to always get bigger faster bikes? Many experienced riders stay on small bike. Mostly nobody can really control the power of 600 or 1000 bike. Better ride a slow bike fast than a fast one slow. Greetings from Germany
You are very correct. Here in America most people have a problem where if they don't have the biggest baddest bike, they feel it's not good enough. Alot of them end up getting seriously hurt but its how people buy things in America. If there is something better, Faster, Lighter, More Tech. They are not happy unless they have everything.
I enjoy going acceleration. I can go slow and speed up (like a race) I am happy like that. I dont need to go 130mph for 20 minutes on the highway to be happy. I can go 80 speed up once or twice and I enjoy that. Thats not true for everyone.
I will say experienced riders in America know how they like to enjoy bikes. You usually see this in younger newer riders.
Here in the Philippines, the common complaint by the owners with the bike is that the gas consumption is a bit high compared to other 400cc parallel twin bikes like the ninja 400.
For here in America for that trip I did 50 miles/ gallon. Which compared to all the bigger cc bikes is very good. But again we use a lot bigger engines here.
The problems in my country (Philippines?) is too much fokkkking traffic that's y don't argue if miles/gallon wasted more haay
@@rolanddiaz1974 Ya I can see that for daily driving. I enjoy them as toys so gas mileage does not matter to me at all. I have the worse MPG bikes I think I can have lol
Riding like a demon on mine I'd typically get mid 40s and would need a fill up usually every other day, but part of that is that I'd ride ALL the time. My first month I put 50 miles a day on it
Ya that’s awesome gas mileage. A 600 riding like a demon get mid 20s mpg lol.
Where u get that exhaust from
Very good question. Not my bike so I’ll have to figure that one out!
What sucks is that they just said “f it” and stopped dressing it. Now you just get plain white or black. Not even a pin stripe on the rims. The black one shows stripes but in real life they don’t come with it anymore.
Haha those stickers cost 3-5 dollars. They were added to this bike by the owner.
Does anyone know how much this bike would be otd ?
Depends on dealer and state taxes but here in Florida it would be just shy of 9k
I’ve looked at them but haven’t ridden one. I haven’t seen a single negative review however. The tech for a beginner bike is impressive. Only real downside seems to be the “Chinese bike” rep and not as easy to get parts or someone to work on it. But I can see it being a front runner especially if you know you’re planning on getting something else after a year or two.
It is not a cheap Chinese knock off. This is 100% a contender in the category. I dont know what parts will be like to find but I did not see anything I think is cheap or trying to be copied from another bike.
This def aint no cheap parts i mean it comes with brembo brakes 🤣
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Nice review. I do wish people would STOP using the term “Beginner Bike” regardless of the bike. I’m not a beginner and can still enjoy riding a smaller displacement bike. Every bike has an environment and scenario that is appropriate for the bike. When you call it a beginner bike, it has the effect of turning off the experienced rider who may enjoy riding in the scenario that the bike may be perfect for.
As an experienced rider I would hope you know that a smaller displacement bike is beginner friendly and there for a beginner bike. And should take no offense if you’re looking for a slower, smaller ride to fit a specific way of riding. It’s an “ultra slow experienced rider bike” doesn’t really sound too good and approachable for the actual new riders that have yet to get to your level of experience. The terminology is geared toward the major demographic that will have have interest in the bike. It’s marketing not an only use case.
I've owned 2x R6, R1, GSXR 750, and a dozen dirtbikes and I own a 23' 450ss. I love it, I wheelie it all around town and rip it through the canyons. I destroy much bigger bikes through the twisties on it. fun bike thats not for ONLY beginners.
I own a zx6 and r1 still enjoyed the bike. Currently thinking about getting one for the wife in the future for an excuse to buy it lol.
Where to get those extended frame sliders
not sure how to tell you man bike isn't mine .
AliExpress. Took about a week to get mine in
Not sure where they are from to be honest.
I got 1400 miles on mine. Maxed it out at 127 and i still love it but i just wish it was a 600cc i4. I would get me a gsxr 750 or zx6r but the 450 just has to much features and looks to good.
Haha you know what’s really funny. I know from riding that features don’t matter, at least to me. For you buying a bike because of features made you pull the trigger. How do you feel about that choice now ? Do you think you shouldn’t have made a decision based on features?
@NostalgicMotorcycles bro I didn't buy the buy just for the features. I'm a new rider and the ninja 400 had less features than the 450ss and was more expensive than this bike. Not to mention, the 450ss has a 270 crank, which sounds better. Plus the features I'm talking about is the app. The bike comes with a tracker, vibration sensor, and checking your top speed, how many times you lean, gas, and how many miles you you put on the bike when ever your not around it. For the looks and features I wish it was a 600cc i4.
@@kidlo2050 Okay so If I Understand you correctly, you're saying you wish the 450 was a 600 all else the same. Its Perfect for what you wanted but it would be more perfect with more juice?
@NostalgicMotorcycles yes. I wasn't tryna bash the bike. I was just trying to say I wish they had a 600cc i4 bike that would have these looks and features as the 450ss. Like the winglets, the drl illumination, and the app features. Also, I meant to say that my next bike will be either a zx6r or a gsxr 750 regardless of features because the only features I use while riding are the screen buttons to check my range and keep my bike connected to my phone for tracking reasons.
@@kidlo2050 What if they delivered a 600 with similar looks and design without the app. Would you still be interested in it ?
Please link your exact phone mount please
I use ram Mounts. The one on this CF is actually a Quadlock but Im not sure which one.
450cc is considered an intermediate bike in my country, US is wild
lol we drive a lot faster here ! It is pretty wild !
Ever heard of Germany? 😅
Lmfaooo once or twice !
@@borky1987 i live 5 km away from germany in the netherlands
Dam that’s a ways it’s awesome people far away are watching !
How much top speed?
112 is what they rate it as. This owner had it to 118 MPH i have seen a few more comments about low 120s. Im guessing thats with mods and the wind blowing lol
would you recommend getting this or the zx4rr?
Ooo depends on your style. If your a first time rider this is a more friendly bike.
The zx4rr is a true super sport so it’s less comfortable more aggressive power deliver and is a lot less comfortable around town.
If you’re just wanting to go in shorter less aggressive rides I would get the zx4. If you want to go more miles and actually ride longer the cf450.
If you don’t know your ride yet. The Cfmoto. It’s cheaper easier to sell and you can always jump 600 if you realize that’s the life you want to live.
I was about to buy a cbr500r then i came across the 450ss CF and i only have this bike on sights now
More usable friendlier power for sure. A lot of features. I prefer the cbr looks but the cf in everything else. Cf still looks good
@@NostalgicMotorcyclesdamn rly i think the 450ss looks badass , the headlights at light MANNN
I also seen performance wise the 450ss is superior to the cbr500 and beat it in drags.
I agree ! I have a soft spot for Hondas lmfaoo
@@NostalgicMotorcycles heyyyy we all love our own !!! , i was also surprised that the 450ss was accelerating faster and a better top speed tha the cbr500 but i clearly seen it in another yt vid (and it was the 2023 ss450)
You need to match it up with Kawasaki Z500.
I need to find one to ride ! Got some fun ones coming soon if all goes well R7 will be next then a cb650
That's cause your riding a Yamaha CP2 engine
(CFMOTO). The name of the new business will be ZHUZHOU CF YAMAHA MOTOR CO., LTD. (ZCYM). This joint venture is premised on the acquisition of the clearances, permits, etc., required by competition laws and other laws and regulations.Sep 15, 2023
My understanding was they partnered with duke not Yamaha 🫢🫢
@@NostalgicMotorcycles Since 1992 Yamaha has utilised Jianche to manufacture some of its models in China, although that is now changing as a joint venture with CFMoto has now been agreed. A press release announced by CFMoto confirmed the news, with only regulatory checks to now be carried out.Nov 3, 2023.
Yes but that is moving forward. Not saying it happened in the past. The cf is not a cp2 and does not share engine with Yamaha. I’m sure they will in the future.
not gonna say much about its reliability, quality and other areas. Just 1 thing at least in my country, Resell value is terrible and parts are not easy at least thats what the owners are saying.
Lmfao it’s not the future yet I don’t know what’s going to happen. But it’s a $5,000 usd buck. It’s probably going to cost the same as every beginner bike 3-4,000 for a good condition one and less for a bad one. Can’t expect much from a lower price product. They all lose resale it’s a motorcycle. If your thinking about resale your buying the wrong bike. Or just don’t buy new.
@@NostalgicMotorcycles fair enough good sir. appreciate your input :) ride safe
Always !!! Same for. Keep the shiny side up !
Ask him about finding oil filters for the bike…
He mentioned it. He said order 2-3 ahead of time because they are hard to come by !
The problem is longeviti!
I can see why you feel that way and only time will tell. In reality. They start with less issues than other brands and I doubt that will be a problem from the feels. It feels like a solid well put together bike. You can tell when things are “cheap” and this isn’t that compared to its competitors
Ripp off 3000 mile service intervals cheaper to run a bloody fireblade lol!.
It’s all subjective bro. The service interval is determined by the factory recommended oil. If you use different oil such as v300 you can use a different interval.
Also if a fireblade has 5,000 miles interval that is also subjective to how it is being used. If you race that bike and change your oil every 5 k it will blow up as the factory oil is not track use rated.
I have done a lot of research on actual oils how they are made and how they are used and I change my oil prior to the service interval in all situations. But I have no knowledge in just a guy in the internet.
In the case of the blade what ever the service interval is the bike is rated to last (example) 100,000 miles if you change it at 5k but Can last longer if you change it more frequently (this information is not given by manufacturers) but change interval is based on service life of the engine, quality of the oil, and intended use of the motorcycle.
Or don’t enjoy a great bike because the manufacturer says you have to spend an extra $50 bucks a year on oil Lmfaoo
Everything being said about Chinese products is the same thing said about Japanese products when they first started appearing in the West. The only thing hanging up Chinese product delivery is Western politics. If the Chinese can put a state-of-the-art space station into space, they can surely design great products.
I agree. Honestly think this is a good quality bike. this owner is selling and I would be lying if i said I didn't consider selling it.
No, no it doesn't. I'd like to see the video that claims it does.
I don't think you will man its a good bike lol. Im sure someone out there will want to see more power or something but anyone that judges the bike for what it is and is supposed to be wont find that.
You're just looking for videos to satisfy your ego
lol most people are
I misunderstood the main comment... I'm truly sorry
@@ShinzouWoSateSateSate No worries man thank you for stopping by and leaving a comment it helps regardless. I appreciate it.
At this price, can USA make an equivalent? No chance hahaha. Yeah americuns always say they can buy something better at a much higher price. Buy more HD before it goes bankrupt :)
Ya 100% correct. Can’t compete for sure. That’s a dam good bike with a lot of features for a low price compared to the competition. But over time they will increase price. Most companies start low build a name for quality and standard. Then increase price with increased demand to make more profits. But the increase in price is only profit really it’s not a need in most cases. For example Harley now.
@@NostalgicMotorcycles Price increase in your part of the woods are caused by greedy middlemen or your country's incessant 'sanctions' against China made products hahaha. In China, they don't care. They make hundreds of thousands of these and sell them across Asia ( which has a bigger market than A M E R I C A).
No I get all of that. You are correct and that is a part of it. But for all business in general. Once you hit a certain size and popularity. You increase price to max profits. No one is in business to loose money or make the least amount as possible. So the cf prices will come up if they become more popular over time. Not in a year or 2 but over time.
As A American no love for China.
No worries bro your love to pick who and what you give it to. I personally don’t like to miss out on experiences because of my own beliefs but I don’t expect that in everyone.
Without a doubt, I would much rather get the non-abs Ninja 451 for the same price. CFmoto lies about their weight and horsepower. Real stats are more like 46hp and 398lbs. It's like one of those Chinese flashlights for $9.99 that claims to have 6000 lumens when its really more like 2000. It may sound like a good deal, but at that price it's too good to be true. The Ninja 451 is lighter, has more torque, and has the same amount of horsepower. I dont know how many people plan on keeping and modifying one of these lightweight sports bikes, but after upgrades and ecu flash, the Ninja 451 makes about 10 more hp. The ecu flash on the 450ss doesnt do much. Call me crazy but I also prefer the bassy gurgle of Kawi's 180° parallel twin. In this class, in order from best to worst, it goes: Aprilia RS 457, Kawasaki 451 (500), CFmoto 450ss, KTM rc390, and then Yamaha R3. At $8000 to $8500 OTD price do I think the Ape 457 is a good value? No, but I still want one.
Hey bro I respect that 100%. I can tell you haven’t ridden one because it’s a dam good bike for sure. However, always and I mean always. Get the bike you want as that’s what’s going to make you happy for sure !
Everything is A copy of course it feels good lame.
I have to say this feels better than a copy bro. It’s better quality for a lower price. Honeslty curious to see the affect it’ll have on other bikes.
What's with his 600cc obsession 600s are not the fastest bikes how about pangalie v4r are r1 those are actually fast
Lmfao correct 600s are not the fastest bike. There are faster bikes. Bikes being faster doesn’t make a bike that is not as fast not actually fast. Statement should be 600s are fast 1000 are faster.
If all you care about is the fastest bike humanly possible you’re watching the wrong video bro. Also some people don’t care to have THE one fastest bike as that literally changes yearly. Some people enjoy motorcycles of different speeds because they are all awesome and enjoyable for what they are. Get to riding and you will understand one day.
Yes it does suck for anyone who doesn’t want to waste 18 min of their life
So you saw the whole thing ? Thank you !