Good 👍 review thank you. I tested one yesterday and love it. Great job Yamaha. Just waiting to see if the SP comes with this option i want one for sure. Thanks again review 👍
Il cambio DCT di Honda ê un automatico a DOPPIA FRIZIONE. Questo ê un automatico. Con entrambi si può anche cambiare manualmente con le levette sul manubrio. Secondo me comunque ê un ottimo cambio automatico. Mi piacerebbe provarlo. Io possiedo una Honda con cambio DCT.
Interesting review & tech but not for me...yet. I just don't want or need it right now but I can see the appeal & benefits so never say never. I imagine it suites some types of bikes much better than others.
Impressive technology, but why introduce it on a hooligan bike like the MT-09? Seems odd as I would think this would be more applicable to the Tracer for touring. My hope is you don't think we ALL want an automatic. Please offer this as an option rather than replacing the manual transmissions, and the traditional clutch lever and foot shifter. I respectfully disagree that this technology will make anyone more "one" with the bike. I believe it will do the opposite, it will disconnect the rider from what is going on and make them more of a passive participant in the riding experience :(
Yamaha did say this will not replace the manual transmission, rather always be available as an option for the MT-09 and other models going forward. It's well worth a go if you get the chance - but I think I'd still go manual (with that third gen quickshifter!)
i think it depends on what the DVLA in your area thinks, i passed my test on a honda nc700s DCT and was given a manual license for it but i have spoken to multiple examiners who have said its kinda up to them how they classify it
Wouldn’t think it would be in the air like that, I’ve checked since and it does say if you pass your test on a automatic you can only ride an automatic, but if you pass your test on a manual you can ride both.
@@jeffy3964 honestly i think what happened with me is the examiner just got confused, ive ridden both for some time now but my preference is the ease behind the DCT and that big ol storage box
I have a patent !🎉🎉🎉 To make the shifter differently. My shifter is from side to side.It is a gear button that slides horizontly in a zig zag path to prevent accident shifting of more then two gears at once.The gear button is poditioned to the right of the left handle infront of the driver so the driver could look at the button though he wouldn't have to . Each corner of the position is a gear station ; If you have six gears then you have 6 corners to tge zigzag path. In that way you can see at what gear you are in relative to the others and also feel it as you change gears -- An important cue that is missing in the Y AMT and similar dezigns. The patent is making the zigzag close enough to a straight horizontal line so changing gears from 1 to 6 will be almost as moving the gear button in a straight line from left to right meaning quickly , yet far enough from straight line path that the driver will be able to stop the gear button in each corner of the zigzag path without moving it too much. Am I a genious or not ?!🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂
To be fair I’d say so, leave it in auto mode and setting off and slowing down is all sorted for you. No clutch work to worry about - and even in manual mode you can’t stall! One of the reasons why Yamaha have brought it in, to appeal to new riders
Big miss they didn't connected it to the cornering system as it could shift mid corner. Still not enough information as how automatic perform in city, mixed condition, highway! I personally prefer it to be installed in xsr900 or xsr700 design! Other than this it's my dream! Thanks!
We didn’t spend too much time in traffic or low speed, but the gearing was smooth and quick so can’t imagine it would be any issue. Yamaha reckon manual mode is the default for proper riding in any case. Cheers mate
Loved that Alex and thanks for the mention 🙏
Nice one Chopsy! Anytime mate, great day riding with you and the Spanish guys👏
Fantastic bit of kit. Hope Yamaha fit it to the MT09 SP.
I'd imagine they will, then the Tracer 9, and no doubt the XSR900 GP - all the CP3 models.
Good 👍 review thank you. I tested one yesterday and love it. Great job Yamaha. Just waiting to see if the SP comes with this option i want one for sure. Thanks again review 👍
Glad you enjoyed, it's a pretty great little system, isn't it? And on a fantastic bike. I'd imagine the SP will have a Y-AMT version, too!
What are the effects of Y-AMT on the IMU functions ?? Thanks for any & all responses.
So basically this is Honda's DCT, and claim it the future?
DCT should be much more smooth. But anyway, it’s good that other manufacturers are moving to this direction.
Not quite the same but similar, in use it’s good
Il cambio DCT di Honda ê un automatico a DOPPIA FRIZIONE.
Questo ê un automatico.
Con entrambi si può anche cambiare manualmente con le levette sul manubrio.
Secondo me comunque ê un ottimo cambio automatico.
Mi piacerebbe provarlo.
Io possiedo una Honda con cambio DCT.
@@cristianelitropi7324this is not automatic nor is hondas DCT, both are automated manual transmisions...
Sounds great.😊
If you are in D or D+ mode, is there option to press the button and downshift manually? Or you need to change mode to do anything with manual buttons?
In auto (D or D+) you can always shift up or down with the left hand switchgear. Though it may still decide to shift back up/down after
Does it blip the throttle when you downshift manually?
Effectively, it’s still linked up to the Gen 3 quickshifter that Yamaha use elsewhere. Satisfying to use!
Interesting review & tech but not for me...yet. I just don't want or need it right now but I can see the appeal & benefits so never say never. I imagine it suites some types of bikes much better than others.
Certainly see the appeal for off-road like the Tenere 700. Does work well for faster rides here, quick shifter on the bars basically
Is this Yamaha's version of Honda's DCT?
It is
Basically, yeah! Works differently, motor actuators on the clutch and gears, and not a dual-clutch like the Honda, though.
Impressive technology, but why introduce it on a hooligan bike like the MT-09? Seems odd as I would think this would be more applicable to the Tracer for touring. My hope is you don't think we ALL want an automatic. Please offer this as an option rather than replacing the manual transmissions, and the traditional clutch lever and foot shifter. I respectfully disagree that this technology will make anyone more "one" with the bike. I believe it will do the opposite, it will disconnect the rider from what is going on and make them more of a passive participant in the riding experience :(
Yamaha did say this will not replace the manual transmission, rather always be available as an option for the MT-09 and other models going forward. It's well worth a go if you get the chance - but I think I'd still go manual (with that third gen quickshifter!)
If you pass your test on one does that mean you can only ride an automatic bike or can you ride a motorcycle with a clutch as well..
Good question, not sure exactly how that would work with licensing!
To me it would be like passing your test in an automatic car, because you would only be allowed to drive an automatic and not a manual..
i think it depends on what the DVLA in your area thinks, i passed my test on a honda nc700s DCT and was given a manual license for it but i have spoken to multiple examiners who have said its kinda up to them how they classify it
Wouldn’t think it would be in the air like that, I’ve checked since and it does say if you pass your test on a automatic you can only ride an automatic, but if you pass your test on a manual you can ride both.
@@jeffy3964 honestly i think what happened with me is the examiner just got confused, ive ridden both for some time now but my preference is the ease behind the DCT and that big ol storage box
I have a patent !🎉🎉🎉
To make the shifter differently.
My shifter is from side to side.It is a gear button that slides horizontly in a zig zag path to prevent accident shifting of more then two gears at once.The gear button is poditioned to the right of the left handle infront of the driver so the driver could look at the button though he wouldn't have to . Each corner of the position is a gear station ; If you have six gears then you have 6 corners to tge zigzag path.
In that way you can see at what gear you are in relative to the others and also feel it as you change gears -- An important cue that is missing in the Y AMT and similar dezigns.
The patent is making the zigzag close enough to a straight horizontal line so changing gears from 1 to 6 will be almost as moving the gear button in a straight line from left to right meaning quickly , yet far enough from straight line path that the driver will be able to stop the gear button in each corner of the zigzag path without moving it too much.
Am I a genious or not ?!🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂
I wonder what racers think of this system?
Good question, wonder if it'll be on the Yamaha R9 (if that happens...)
Realistically, could someone with little manual gearbox experience get one of this and get away with it?
To be fair I’d say so, leave it in auto mode and setting off and slowing down is all sorted for you. No clutch work to worry about - and even in manual mode you can’t stall! One of the reasons why Yamaha have brought it in, to appeal to new riders
@@BikeMatters Looking forward to Tracer 9 getting it then.
@@dIsAstErTRabsolutely. Tenere 700 as well, would be very handy in an off-road setting
@@BikeMatters 💯
Big miss they didn't connected it to the cornering system as it could shift mid corner. Still not enough information as how automatic perform in city, mixed condition, highway! I personally prefer it to be installed in xsr900 or xsr700 design! Other than this it's my dream! Thanks!
We didn’t spend too much time in traffic or low speed, but the gearing was smooth and quick so can’t imagine it would be any issue. Yamaha reckon manual mode is the default for proper riding in any case. Cheers mate