Amazing control of the little dragon 🐲 Crazy this was my pride and joy as a kid more than 30 years ago, it's magic to see it still breathing, thanks for the smiles of my childhood
wow.... you just added a lot of value to my thunder dragon by telling me it was your pride and joy, i was taken back to when I was a child and staring at my most prized possessions
authentic thumbnail lol. im glad you came to hang thats exactly how I made the video, i strapped the gopro to my head and said ok, pretend youtube group is sitting next to me and chat. I need a coach telling me to stay calm usually when racing lol
Nice! I love the track side adjustments! You ever try coating the tires with a light coat of WD40 and let it kind of dry in the tires on most all tires it makes them grip much better.
Yes, im a tinkerer, and Im all about suspension tuning usually so i had to change it, was too twitchy in the front, and too loose in the rear for that dusty track. Ive heard of that on facebook, the wd40 thing, does it make them greasy?
@@rexrcs no it absorbs in just put on a little thin coat and brush it around on the tires, search wd40 in my channel I have a couple videos showing it.
@@rexrcs to be fair, these tyres were not exactly made for this level of power, a simple trick people use, is to find adapters to fit modern racing buggy wheels and tyres, they don't look too bad either
Thanks man! Im super blessed to have found this place! it snows soon so it wont be as easy to run here, but I was thinking with a shovel i could make a track anywhere
Hi Rex, some nice running there on what looks a great short course track. The Thunder Dragon drove admirable around that track and looked like it was great fun. Nice video, bud! 😊😊😉
Yes, the chassis seemed to hold up well for the amount of times I flipped it, Ive heard on facebook that it wasnt strong but it proved different today, im super happy with it! Run that thundershot as first contender for your new lap timing board! dude I love that youre using that Im excited for a top gear style board!
@@rexrcs if you go to shapeways ro the thunder shot pit stop they have a heavy duty drive shaft that acts like a brace and a rear skid plate that is pretty beefy i have both really like them
Thanks man! hahaha, I like having a coach by me when I do things, but when nobody is around I have to be my own coach, The body is super strong due to the shape I guess? except for the rear body post holes, it keep coming through the body, i think I will try washers. I appreciate you stopping by philthy!, Im still trying to figure out what to build for the build off
No more oil shocks on this one? The original back in the 90s had them and the current product description says it has them (and they are the classic yellow oil shocks from the days of old it appears)
That wee thunder dragon is really slippery when wet, lol 😝 Ps……maybe try a super slow steering servo, not as twitchy, 😂, wot , did you just say you have to get oil shocks, Shame shame we know Rexeys name. lol
I just ordered the Terra Scorcher which from what I've seen it's basically the same as this with some minor changes. How have you been liking your Thunder Dragon?
I recently flipped the rear hinge pin block(lower) upside down to increase toe in, and changed the front spring rate to something stiffer, I havent tried it yet though it's been cold and windy at the same time often here and thats just not fun
Hi AJ Kim, Ive recently made some changes but havent driven it yet, I will be in a couple weeks though. Ive flipped the rear lower hinge block upside down to increase the rear 'toe in' for more rear end stability, Ive also changed the front spring to a harder spring rate. ideally if i want it to handle better, a good place to start could be tires, but im trying to use the factory tires included in the kit
Great running video. The tires also make the difference. It’s best to go with tires that’s similar what you see on RC10’s and the like.I’m so glad you run your RC’s and not put them on Shelves as shelf queens. Not to sound mean, but to me they are like posers. It’s like those rich guys that buy nice exotic cars and never drive them. They don’t deserve those exotics.😕. Keep up the great work!
Thanks Christopher! glad youre taking the time to chat. I also feel some tires would be beneficial, I was also thinking some mult-pin stadium truck style treads. I'm a driver type, I like to drive and operate things, my favourite part is learning how to adjust my driving style to different chassis' so you'll defineatly find my driving my toys, don't get it wrong though...I do have shelf queens, after one or two runs I put most of my rally cars on the shelf forever once they have real mud and dirt on them, that collection is slowly growing nicely. I get the rally cars for the purpose of them being 1/10 static models for me. come back again soon!
@@rexrcs Awesome! Like you I love you tweak with my RC’s to see what will work better . Unfortunately, I’m not heavy into RC’s like I used to be. Getting into RC’s back in the 80’s sure got me into real cars now. Now I’m more into JDM cars and do cost way more money, but like you I now love to tweak and wrench on JDM cars.😂. And as for the shelf queens, like you stated being like a model after a run or what not, I never thought of it that way, but now you mentioned it, it does make more sense.😀 In a way coming kinda coming back to the hobby, but more for the tweaking and restoring. Again, keep up the great work and can’t wait to see more future videos!
@@christopherdeguzman1137 i think you'll be happy with my series of tamiya chassis I will be trying on indoor track this winter, will be a nice comparison between them all, and then I will pick one to try and race with if they have a class for me, and take you all on my journey
I totally agree! the twitchy would amazing with better tires, would be agile and glued, oil shocks would be amazing but its not in the budget book just yet
I'm loving mine but I find the steering very "on the nose" on some surfaces. It seems like the slightest touch of the steering will send it spinning out on tarmac and it can be a real pain to keep it in a straight line because when you try to make tiny corrections, it wants to shoot off in that direction. It's almost like I can't make little corrections to keep it straight. Weird thing is, when it's actually going in the direction you want, it tracks as straight as an arrow, it seems to have decent straight line stability but it's like it over reacts to the most subtle of inputs. Might be exasperated a little by the brushless motor although it's only a 2700kv so not monster fast. Apart from that, I really like it. Rides well and better ground clearance than the newer buggies. Plenty of steering when you actually want it too. I just find it hard work trying to keep it straight along narrow paths etc. Maybe part of it's the price you pay for responsiveness. My DT-02 and 03, Hotshot, even lunchbox etc though just seem like much less hard work to drive fast in a straight line lol
Hey Valley! I agree that its very twitchy, either the front has too much control, or the rear doesnt have enough. thats why in the beginning I took out spacers from the rear to try and achieve more droop and a softer more tameable read end, and I reduced the stiffness of the front, to help reduce the initial steering response, going straight certainly was easy, slowing down however was iffy, the tail seemed to allow too much weight transfer towards the front and allowing the rear to come around too easy, I feel like suspension upgrades and optional springs would allow better tunability and this chassis could be very good! hmmm, lower kv motors have lots of torque, thats the only thing i think of immediatly if youre experienceing torque steer, or you could be using too high of a pinion thus giving less range of finite throttle control, lower pinion would give you a wider range of mid throttle control? I persoanlly love the ground clesrance for bashing, but Id lower it for serious racing. how fast does yours go? does the steering wander?
@@rexrcs I don't think it's torque steer as it will do it even at a constant speed or coasting. Only the stock pinion at the moment. It just seems super sensitive to inputs. It tracks as straight as an arrow when you dont actually try and steer it. It's just when I try to make minor course corrections that it seems to be difficult. Take a look at my DT02 kumamon video, it's running a brushless too and yet I can take it up that footpath relatively easily and make the minor corrections needed to keep it straight. With the TD, if it's heading slightly toward the grass on either side of the path and I try to make a minor correction, even the slightest touch of the steering causes a pretty violent direction change and it's easy to end up zig zagging. I guess it's just how the chassis is. I'll try some thicker oil in the front and maybe softer at the back, maybe give it a slight nose up stance, a little toe in maybe too. The thing is, though, I'll probably drive it off road 99% of the time anyway so I don't want to go too far making it drive well in that one scenario as the cost of performance on surfaces where I will use it the most. I just found it curious how difficult it was just to simply drive along that path, though, it's literally the most difficult I've ever owned so it stood out like a sore thumb.
@@rexrcs On mine ive put the ESC in the old battery compartment and mounted a smaller size lipo nearer the front on top of the servo. The car has a 50/50ish weight distribution front to rear as a result and you don't get the spinning out rear end anywhere near as much. Its a challenging, but rewarding drive and in many ways more fun that a truggy on dirt. Even on 2s the speed is mental because of the lightness
Love the berms on that track!
You were finding your groove out there!👍😊
berms are ridiculous fun lol, not always the fastest way around but the most fun! thanks man appreciate it!
Great to see this on the track. Great looking buggy this one.
Nice driving..you made it work well around the track
Thanks guy!
Amazing control of the little dragon 🐲
Crazy this was my pride and joy as a kid more than 30 years ago, it's magic to see it still breathing, thanks for the smiles of my childhood
wow.... you just added a lot of value to my thunder dragon by telling me it was your pride and joy, i was taken back to when I was a child and staring at my most prized possessions
6:52! Best thumbnail ever!. Dude thanks for this "hang" today, I am starting my day right with laughter and RC!!
authentic thumbnail lol. im glad you came to hang thats exactly how I made the video, i strapped the gopro to my head and said ok, pretend youtube group is sitting next to me and chat. I need a coach telling me to stay calm usually when racing lol
Now, that is the most authentic thumbnail ever! LOL Great video as always!
I try not to use any tricks in my videos, thanks terrence! wheres the vanquish build?
Nice! I love the track side adjustments! You ever try coating the tires with a light coat of WD40 and let it kind of dry in the tires on most all tires it makes them grip much better.
Yes, im a tinkerer, and Im all about suspension tuning usually so i had to change it, was too twitchy in the front, and too loose in the rear for that dusty track.
Ive heard of that on facebook, the wd40 thing, does it make them greasy?
@@rexrcs no it absorbs in just put on a little thin coat and brush it around on the tires, search wd40 in my channel I have a couple videos showing it.
@@rexrcs to be fair, these tyres were not exactly made for this level of power, a simple trick people use, is to find adapters to fit modern racing buggy wheels and tyres, they don't look too bad either
Awesome video and Rc brother
Excellent run and location, track looks awesome
Thanks for sharing my friend stay safe
👍🥶👍
Thanks man! Im super blessed to have found this place! it snows soon so it wont be as easy to run here, but I was thinking with a shovel i could make a track anywhere
OK Rex, how to train the Dragon to stand up and beg!!!! Awesome run man, Great run and funny too!!!!
how did it even end up like that?? haha thats a trick one probably could not replicate lol.
Hi Rex, some nice running there on what looks a great short course track. The Thunder Dragon drove admirable around that track and looked like it was great fun. Nice video, bud! 😊😊😉
it seems to be a small club tie trial track for short course you are correct, thanks for the encouragment!
ANY rc car can dirt track, it just takes a really good driver!
"Long straights are for fast cars, turns are for fast drivers"- Colin McRae
looks pretty good for what it is.
goes well
Awesome video. This buggy was doing pretty good.
Thank you
Nice thats a incredibly strong chassis I have a vintage Thunder Shot and it really takes some abuse
Yes, the chassis seemed to hold up well for the amount of times I flipped it, Ive heard on facebook that it wasnt strong but it proved different today, im super happy with it! Run that thundershot as first contender for your new lap timing board! dude I love that youre using that Im excited for a top gear style board!
@@rexrcs if you go to shapeways ro the thunder shot pit stop they have a heavy duty drive shaft that acts like a brace and a rear skid plate that is pretty beefy i have both really like them
Stay smooth Rex!! Looks like fun..I wouldn't want to mess up that body either lol
Thanks man! hahaha, I like having a coach by me when I do things, but when nobody is around I have to be my own coach, The body is super strong due to the shape I guess? except for the rear body post holes, it keep coming through the body, i think I will try washers. I appreciate you stopping by philthy!, Im still trying to figure out what to build for the build off
@@rexrcs Hey brother I talk to myself all the time lol..Ok for sure you got plenty of time
You need softer oil in the shocks in the rear to get the traction.
Theres no oil shocks on this, its friction dampers friend
No more oil shocks on this one? The original back in the 90s had them and the current product description says it has them (and they are the classic yellow oil shocks from the days of old it appears)
Yes, this one had oils shocks, with very light weight fluid
That wee thunder dragon is really slippery when wet, lol 😝
Ps……maybe try a super slow steering servo, not as twitchy, 😂, wot , did you just say you have to get oil shocks,
Shame shame we know Rexeys name. lol
LOLOLOL thanks for hanging with me, I try to imagine a group of you guys next to me when Im filming and talking
I just ordered the Terra Scorcher which from what I've seen it's basically the same as this with some minor changes. How have you been liking your Thunder Dragon?
I recently flipped the rear hinge pin block(lower) upside down to increase toe in, and changed the front spring rate to something stiffer, I havent tried it yet though it's been cold and windy at the same time often here and thats just not fun
Nice driving bro 👍👍👍
thanks daniel san!
In review what were the top adjustments that helped improve the handling performance of the car?
Hi AJ Kim, Ive recently made some changes but havent driven it yet, I will be in a couple weeks though. Ive flipped the rear lower hinge block upside down to increase the rear 'toe in' for more rear end stability, Ive also changed the front spring to a harder spring rate.
ideally if i want it to handle better, a good place to start could be tires, but im trying to use the factory tires included in the kit
Great running video. The tires also make the difference. It’s best to go with tires that’s similar what you see on RC10’s and the like.I’m so glad you run your RC’s and not put them on Shelves as shelf queens. Not to sound mean, but to me they are like posers. It’s like those rich guys that buy nice exotic cars and never drive them. They don’t deserve those exotics.😕. Keep up the great work!
Thanks Christopher! glad youre taking the time to chat. I also feel some tires would be beneficial, I was also thinking some mult-pin stadium truck style treads. I'm a driver type, I like to drive and operate things, my favourite part is learning how to adjust my driving style to different chassis' so you'll defineatly find my driving my toys, don't get it wrong though...I do have shelf queens, after one or two runs I put most of my rally cars on the shelf forever once they have real mud and dirt on them, that collection is slowly growing nicely. I get the rally cars for the purpose of them being 1/10 static models for me. come back again soon!
@@rexrcs Awesome! Like you I love you tweak with my RC’s to see what will work better . Unfortunately, I’m not heavy into RC’s like I used to be. Getting into RC’s back in the 80’s sure got me into real cars now. Now I’m more into JDM cars and do cost way more money, but like you I now love to tweak and wrench on JDM cars.😂. And as for the shelf queens, like you stated being like a model after a run or what not, I never thought of it that way, but now you mentioned it, it does make more sense.😀 In a way coming kinda coming back to the hobby, but more for the tweaking and restoring. Again, keep up the great work and can’t wait to see more future videos!
@@christopherdeguzman1137 i think you'll be happy with my series of tamiya chassis I will be trying on indoor track this winter, will be a nice comparison between them all, and then I will pick one to try and race with if they have a class for me, and take you all on my journey
Oil shock and some tires, I bet that thing would do great!
I totally agree! the twitchy would amazing with better tires, would be agile and glued, oil shocks would be amazing but its not in the budget book just yet
It has oil shocks- car is twitchy I find though. Haven’t got mine dialled in either yet.
@@alangt4769 He might mean better oil shocks Im not sure, yes its twitchy
Need a small pin tyres for more traction
agreed, I may invest in a nice set to share with super avante also, do you have ?
Where is this track? Looks great.
Toronto Canada
I'm loving mine but I find the steering very "on the nose" on some surfaces. It seems like the slightest touch of the steering will send it spinning out on tarmac and it can be a real pain to keep it in a straight line because when you try to make tiny corrections, it wants to shoot off in that direction. It's almost like I can't make little corrections to keep it straight.
Weird thing is, when it's actually going in the direction you want, it tracks as straight as an arrow, it seems to have decent straight line stability but it's like it over reacts to the most subtle of inputs. Might be exasperated a little by the brushless motor although it's only a 2700kv so not monster fast.
Apart from that, I really like it. Rides well and better ground clearance than the newer buggies. Plenty of steering when you actually want it too.
I just find it hard work trying to keep it straight along narrow paths etc. Maybe part of it's the price you pay for responsiveness. My DT-02 and 03, Hotshot, even lunchbox etc though just seem like much less hard work to drive fast in a straight line lol
Hey Valley!
I agree that its very twitchy, either the front has too much control, or the rear doesnt have enough. thats why in the beginning I took out spacers from the rear to try and achieve more droop and a softer more tameable read end, and I reduced the stiffness of the front, to help reduce the initial steering response, going straight certainly was easy, slowing down however was iffy, the tail seemed to allow too much weight transfer towards the front and allowing the rear to come around too easy, I feel like suspension upgrades and optional springs would allow better tunability and this chassis could be very good!
hmmm, lower kv motors have lots of torque, thats the only thing i think of immediatly if youre experienceing torque steer, or you could be using too high of a pinion thus giving less range of finite throttle control, lower pinion would give you a wider range of mid throttle control?
I persoanlly love the ground clesrance for bashing, but Id lower it for serious racing.
how fast does yours go? does the steering wander?
@@rexrcs I don't think it's torque steer as it will do it even at a constant speed or coasting. Only the stock pinion at the moment.
It just seems super sensitive to inputs.
It tracks as straight as an arrow when you dont actually try and steer it. It's just when I try to make minor course corrections that it seems to be difficult.
Take a look at my DT02 kumamon video, it's running a brushless too and yet I can take it up that footpath relatively easily and make the minor corrections needed to keep it straight. With the TD, if it's heading slightly toward the grass on either side of the path and I try to make a minor correction, even the slightest touch of the steering causes a pretty violent direction change and it's easy to end up zig zagging.
I guess it's just how the chassis is. I'll try some thicker oil in the front and maybe softer at the back, maybe give it a slight nose up stance, a little toe in maybe too.
The thing is, though, I'll probably drive it off road 99% of the time anyway so I don't want to go too far making it drive well in that one scenario as the cost of performance on surfaces where I will use it the most.
I just found it curious how difficult it was just to simply drive along that path, though, it's literally the most difficult I've ever owned so it stood out like a sore thumb.
@@ValleyRC ahhh i see
@@rexrcs On mine ive put the ESC in the old battery compartment and mounted a smaller size lipo nearer the front on top of the servo. The car has a 50/50ish weight distribution front to rear as a result and you don't get the spinning out rear end anywhere near as much. Its a challenging, but rewarding drive and in many ways more fun that a truggy on dirt. Even on 2s the speed is mental because of the lightness
Smooth, smooth smoo... *Thunder dragon does ass stand* Darn it LUL Great vid :D
hahahahah my smoothness needs work but makes for great laughs lol, thanks TM!
Same chassis with Terra Scorcher
Yes, new to me, i never played with this model chassis ever before this one
The thunder dragon has oil shocks
Yes it does