I'm a mechanical engineer and you guys conceptually explained speed and things associated with speed (velocity, acceleration and jerk) better in 12 min then an entire semester of Physics I in college... Bravo.
the fools said they werent gonna hear yet he clearly hears the dudes voice repeat the actual speed back. so why tf u sayin to plug ur ears and noise cancel out? then proceeds to say to much info is processed by him like soundof exhaust and up shifting and revving hen it was only supposed to be a feel test?
One thing I can add to this discussion: lane width on the highway can influence how fast you think you're going. If I drive on a newer bit of highway with wider lanes than I'm used to, I literally have to remind myself that yes, I'm still doing 100kph and yes, that still means I need plenty of braking space in case that truck right therOHMYGOD
Thing I never understood about breaking space is that no car is going to instantly stop in front of you. They still need to slow down themsleves if they break, so yoh really just need a fast enough reaction to start breaking, not to actually stop.
@Lukas G The short answer: information and reaction times. The long answer: it's been tested years ago that your reaction time is about half the total braking distance. So if the driver in front of you notices something bad in front of him/her and starts braking hard, your brain in normal relaxed driving mode is not aware of this until your eyes register the brake lights, tell your brain, your brain tells your eyes to lock on the brake lights, the eyes send the info back that yes, those are really brake lights in your direct path, your brain tells your leg to start moving off one pedal and onto the other, and then the time it takes for your body and the car's mechanics to do what's needed to get the calipers onto your brakes. That's half the distance already gone. Even with sufficient distance to the car in front of you, your car will need to work hard to keep your crash stop from becoming a crash. (Remember that Top Gear braking distance thing they did? Yeah that was bullsh-- I mean 'comedy'.) The next thing: when a car in front of a close string of cars on the highway brakes a bit, the car behind it tends to brake a little harder to compensate for the cars being suddenly much closer (because of the already mentioned reaction speeds). The car behind that needs to brake even harder, the one behind that even more, etc., until cars end up stopping completely in a traffic jam or pile-up. Keeping enough distance does much to soften this effect, as cars are not 'suddenly much closer' -- you don't need to compensate -- and therefore helps to avoid traffic jams & pile-ups behind you. Finally, there are situations where the car in front of you does brake faster than its brakes could do. For example, when the driver doesn't pay attention and rams another car. Or spins out of control. In those cases, a good distance means the difference between just touching your brake pedal the moment you hit the other vehicle, or driving much slower by that point. In other words, the difference between potentially murdering people and a stoved-in front bumper. In an ideal world, you get the information about the obstacle the same time as the car in front of you does. In an ideal world, your cars are driving on a similar surface, with similar tyres, have the same type of brakes and they are equally well maintained, and no-one ever gets cut off, falls asleep, loses grip, has broken brake lights or spins out. We do not live in an ideal world.
Tbh the first time when I just bought my car and was going 90kmh on the German autobahn it felt so fast, but now im going 180kmh and it feels more slower then ever. Ik that if ur gonna go even 200 on cruise control then it’s gonna feel like 50 cuz ur body is becoming more used to it.
The show wasn't bad, I learned a lot on the Camaro vs Mustang episode. Made me like Camaros more than I did! I just think trying to score everything seemed unnecessary.
I think it was good, but it just didn’t feel right. They could have kept it going and let him get more comfortable in front of the camera and maybe switch up the writer for it
I think it would be a good show if they just cut out the arbitrary scoring bit. Like if the show was just a look at the comparison between two cars or whatever and there was no attempt to declare one as "winner" it would be fine.
Lol, you can just control cars acceleration or velocity. Jerk is out of your control Mathematically: ds^3/d^3t (Dj:da/dt da:dv/dt dv:ds/dt) Jerk is the rate of change of acceleration. Take it as the difference between acceleration of time A and time B.
Its accurate too even without the experiment they did. Once you put all those on your car you are always aware that all the cops in your area are looking at you with tickets in their eyes.
@@alexisrivera200xable my 96 Toyota Corolla 5 speed just like that 5 percent tint front and BACK YOO custom 2 inch exhaust and it got custom Cai cause they don't make for my car and wrapped exhaust manifold yoo
This is also why automatic drivers are always going way faster than manual drivers on highways, with less gears to go in to the car is much louder at higher speeds.
@@ReclusiveRychu true 😂 in my Mazda 5 speed, if anyone goes over 70 I'm like "damn why is everyone flying today". Although my Subaru is a 4 speed auto and still does great at 70-80. That torque converter really helps with taller gear ratios is the other factor.
@@OnEst_Opinion I could've bought a brand new car or easily 300-400hp used car but I bought a clean RSX type S with bolt ons. Saved money/it'll actually last/waaaayyyy more fun.
That's why I enjoy driving our Brabus Smart more than our Kia E-Niro with twice the horsepower and way faster acceleration. (7.5 s to 100 km/h instead of 10 s to 100km/h)
Had this feeling when I went from a BMW 530D to the Subaru WRX STI. With the BMW I would cruise at 220 on the Autobahn and be completely relaxed, While the STI felt like I was going twice as fast at 200.
The problem with the blindfold test is I doubt you're actually "sensing" what speed you're traveling-since, as you mentioned earlier in the video, you can't feel speed. I'd imagine what's happening in the blindfold experiment is that you're feeling the car accelerate and you're remembering the intensity and duration of that acceleration and matching that up mentally with your past experience with acceleration, same thing with deceleration. So the blindfold test is probably more of a mental equation than a "body sensation". Also, a car with stiffer suspension will let you feel more of the imperfections of the road at speed, which will also give you a pretty good idea of how fast you're traveling. Not because of the speed itself, but because your body knows what going over a bump in the road at 15 mph feels like vs 60 mph. So, it stands to reason that a stiffer suspension would be more accurate in the blindfold test.
.. it would be a big diff if they did a blind driving test stick,only seeing the tachometer and hearing the engine and so forth …. But that’s a death trap
First, feeling the car shacking is exactly how you feel the speed. The faster you go, the more unstable it feels. Second, accuracy depends more on personal experience, because your senses are calibrated based of that. While more bumpiness can allow a better accuracy, previous experience is still th3 strongest factor.
Not so much about someone's driving ability when the car is praised for being good in corners, having low center of gravity and almost a perfect weight distribution as well
@@Fury_BlackWolf wasnt saying it takes more skill to drive an FRS, literally just saying the straights dont take skill yet people are always after more speed.
It's actually the opposite. I interrupt non car people that go "hey! nice car!" and blurt out "its not fast". Some sort of PTSD lol love the little fucker frs tho.
Just one criticism of your testing (for future reference). By giving direct feedback, saying what the actual speed was, after each guess you guys were adding a correction factor to the test. i.e. when a subject knows their error the subject can adjust to account for their perceived error and adjust their guesses to factor it (e.g. "Hmm, I think we're doing 50 but I was off by 10 last time so i'll guess 60"). This also means there was likely an element of practice too meaning which ever car was tested first will inevitably have a larger error that the second vehicle. If doing a blind test like that, don't give feedback, just look at the data afterwards.
James May stated that after driving the Veyron at top speed he nearly opened the door while coasting at 70 mph. After going over 250 mph, his perception of speed was severely altered.
It’s like when you’re on a road trip and you’ve been driving the speed limit for several hours. Then after stopping for gas/restroom, once you start driving again, it feels like you’re crawling until you get back up to speed.
I constantly do 180 km/h on the highway for 1-2 hours, and when i go back to the speed limit of 130 because the waze tells me a cop is nearby i feel like i am going 50. And then dropping down to 60km/h to take and exist feels like 20 km/h. It's insane.
i guess its like practicing with a heavier bat or with 2 bats so that going back to the normal one feels lighter and easier but just done unintentionally and bad
Redlining at 5 MPH in 1st gear, 15 in 2nd, 35 in 3rd, 50 in 4th and sitting like 12 inches off the ground made driving a 5 speed Geo Metro to the sandwhich shop and back feel like doing a lap of the Monaco GP.
bro redline at 5 mph i have 2008 Suzuki marhut 4 speed manual that redlines the first gear at 13 mph bruh 28 at 2nd gear the car only have 3 cylinder 800 cc that gives 43 HP engine
m's were fine until turbo's. the brand was fine with inline 6's. v8's weren't as bad as the m turbo's. most affordable german option that could be set up for anything but drag racing. they got way off the mark but were one of the last holdout's
Hell yeah!!! I’m putting glass packs on all 3 of my cars! One is a 7.7L 472 ci big block v8 375hp 500tq!! The other 2 are 4.6L 279 ci all aluminum N*’s 320hp 315tq and 275hp 300tq respectively.
Kinda depends, actually. If everyone drove sports cars, more woul get more accustomed to be lower to the road and at least be better able to *handle* more speed. These crossovers tend to have so much ride height that the worst arses in town drive Nissan Muranoes, no kidding. Basically they have no clue what's going on, just 'feel slow.'
@@OllamhDrab It also ties in to their personally acceptable levels of perceived safety. SUV's make people feel safe, and they tend to drive more recklessly until they're back in that band of perceived safety. Just like when you slow down because you feel unsafe. It's a lot more than just ride height.
800 billion dollar speed machine: 90 miles=sneaking speed any car from the 90s priced at 200 dollars gone through 6 different owners and mechanics fear it: 20 miles feels like you just passed an sr71
Dude I drive a 06 Yaris hatch with the 1L, 3 cylinder 😂 Just let it warm up and 2nd gear is potent af with 6.5k rev limit and 50mph top end and man it feels good, tho I personally have never gone to 50 in 2nd or hit the Rev limiter
Good to know about context altering our perception of speed. It reminded me of how, years ago, in World of Warcraft, I found flying mounts way more fun when flying low. Now it makes sense that when flying higher up at the same speed, it felt really slow because I had all the context of where I was coming from and going to. Flying close to the ground at the same speed felt way faster. Cool how it rings true even in a case like that.
I hope we see Joey more, felt bad when he had to apologize you guys really laid into him back then:/ The mans got a passion just like the rest of the guys and girls at Donut, and although the show wasn’t perfect I enjoyed it truthfully, Joey if you read this we love you man! Keep up the good work and thanks for being apart of what makes Donut great, and that’s having a love for cars!!
@ElLocoGeronimo it got cancelled because a lot of people were sad that the car they preferred didn't win. I really feel bad for the dude because it was *his* opinion, but even tho he decided to cut the part where we says who is the overall winner, people still unnecessarily complained.
I think that the phenomena due to the lower riding height is due to the fact that you're closer to the ground so the 'movement' of the floor relative to you seems greater. Compare that to riding in a plane, you're super far from the area you're traveling across but you're traveling at high speeds. I think that concept applies to higher vehicles vs lower vehicles
The answer is simple. People having a fisheye lens/optics. It is distorted like a barrel roll effect. And you have a motion blur effect due to low data updates. It helps in speed detection. Since you have to watch in straight line while driving, you will have issues with blur due optics. While object is far from you AND you reaching it for long period - it will feels like driving slow If object is closer to a viewer, and changes fast - it will feels like a fast moving pace. Also, we have a phenomena of "constant speed", it is a brain "energy saving" issue. In a very short terms, brain don't want to process info every single second. The moment when everything around you stills the same - brain skips, no needs in updates. But, our brain is trained to detect changes in environment, and very fast processing it. Like: Drive 5-7mph, and then instantly go 20-30mph - brain will instantly say "wow, danger, stop!" But the same thing - for a high speeds. Drive 100mph for a 1 minute, it will be "stop!". Drive 5-10mins - it will be like 40mph. But the moment you will reduce speed from 100 to 40 - instantly feels like 5mph... But that's only while looking straight forward. Look to sides, and bang, you will know actual speed. Also try the same with looking straight down on a road from a passenger seat.
I did this in a shooter game, had the same movement speed for my character but I modified the height, from 6ft2 to 7ft2 the diff was insane in terms of speed
Best video on youtube - I have an MX5 - your description makes perfect sense - I have always described the effect of a sports car as being the rate of information - I learnt a lot from your film - keep up the good work.
Very interesting. In my S5, I drive slower in dynamic than in comfort mode because I feel every bit of the road. More aggressive shifts and exhaust crackling remind me to let up early because I feel like I'm hauling ass. In comfort mode, the powerband isn't as aggressive, but the smoothness of it creeps up so quick. The road is plush and the shifts are seamless. Very easy to hit 60 in a 45 unintentionally.
Thanks for sharing this! Super interesting. Went from driving an Xterra to an XB and I have to be sooooo f’n careful on the freeway. On a good day I’ll hit 50 on the on ramp and be breaking 80 by the time I merge. Like how?! Still trying to wrap my brain around the info dump here and how driving a smaller car has made me speed racer. I never experienced this driving around in the Xterra. In like 15 years of having one I got one speeding ticket - and that was due to being in an unknown area and driving into a school zone. Every time I take the XB out I legit feel like I’m in a go cart. Crazy what a difference size, weight and acceleration play.
Poor Joey! All he did was being a fan boy xD I mean I didn’t like the show either but I didn’t like the whole concept and felt actually kinda bad for him.
Let's keep it a buck. The only reason his show was cancelled was because he felt Bugatti was a better company than Koenigsegg after that everything he did was heavily criticised for little to no reason. Honestly I like Bugatti more but for different reasons than he specified but I give him mad respect for being able to say there was a winner rather than just leaving it as a tie then saying u decide on the comment section however I feel no matter what so long as he said Bugatti was better there'd be a huge dislike ratio on the vid
When I was a vehicle tester, these were some of the most important factors we had to grade. Because regardless of how a vehicle performs, consumer satisfaction heavily relies on the *feel* of the drive. A total clunker could still be a fan favorite if it feels smooth or fast enough.
Joey Rassool found his niche, presenting while driving. His voice was natural and pleasant to listen to while delivering information in this video. More Joey Rassool in cars please!
And this is why Subaru WRX STI are still so popular to this day, despite their engine having 280 HP. It just feels like you're going so fast while only at 40 mph, on the highway, you feel like you're driving a speed demon. But honestly it isn't going over the speed limit, just feel like a high-end luxury sport vehicle.
Omg, so true, I always see middle-aged ladies often even with disabled placards in the window flying like 30 over the speed limit in those newer raised crossover type cars
@@nodsib my mom is that lady I always say to her “your car feels way slower than it is”. One time I turned onto the highways from her house going like 20kmh floored it to 120kmh she didn’t even notice just kept looking at her phone 😂
Golf cart drivers too. In my neighborhood those mfers are out to kill or be killed, stop signs aren’t required or even recommended, but just a mild suggestion for those geezers who think they’re still 20.
The show wasn't perfect but it wasn't his hosting, it was the shows formula. It was to biased which made people who disagreed annoyed. If they re did that and then left it up to us to vote in the comments and then told us the results at the beginning of the next episode it would have been awesome
@@NickolitheSpartan117 agreed. I like that at the end they stopped having the points and just showed how the cars or whatever differed and didn't draw a conclusion so that the viewer could decide which they liked better. If that had done that from the beginning it might still be around
As a fellow Mechanical Engineer, I thoroughly enjoyed this episode and gladto see you guys are sort of going the myth busters testing route. Bring science to the people 🙌🏾
Aw joey you hit me in the feels bro. I think you're a fine on screen presenter, I just think vs. was a flawed concept. I can't wait to see your next project.
@@Churroboyyy Now you see, In many *(More like... almost or all)* of the episodes of their series; "Vs" *(A show from months ago about a comparison between two contenders of either Cars or Engines or Drivers, or etc.)* that guy is saying things that are either misinforming or "biased" or any other mistaken stuffs... and all of people who watch it, are so very mad at him, so that series received awful amounts of hate... so much hate that the show is cancelled. This is just my point of view and also my... uh... "opinion"? If there's any nonsense stuffs that you all read in my comment then I'm sorry and feel free to correct me.
When I'm going very fast I tend to notice that all the active thinking gets deactivated and much happens from muscle memory etc, also when close calls or sliding out (on a motorcycle) happen everything is slowed down a lot to a point where I've had way more time to react precisely than when I rewatch it on the video, its an interesting phenomenon
But I think that this happens because there is no right focus in the videos, the whole image is in focus and we are the ones who see where we want to focus, when we review our own accidents. It's the same thing as when I record videos riding a motorcycle and sometimes I look at people's faces and in the video you can't tell that I'm looking at the person, etc.
2:47 *Starts explaining Microaccelerations* Me: *Starts having flashbacks of when the bus driver floored it at a railroad crossing and I got launched so high I hit my head on the ceiling of the bus*
i used to sit in the back of the bus and stand up before the bus went over a speedbump at school it would fling me over into the next seat it was really fun
So that's the reason all of the people in pickups drive like idiots on the highway, they FEEL like they are going 60 when they're actually going 75. Isn't that right.
@@xm210c That’s kinda a dumb answer considering they probably chose the larger tires. A better answer would be to explain the only reason that should be is the wrong size tires and to just keep the difference in mind. They also can be adjusted or replaced with other speed sensors depending on the vehicle. People who want big tires want big tires. I think it’s dumb on a daily after a certain point. To be 10mph off, they’re probably pretty big.
Kinda reminds me of the scene from initial D during the battle with that black r32. I can't remember the exact quote but Takumi told his dad he needed glasses and so they went to get his eyes checked, only to find out that Takumi had perfect vision. Bunta lashed out at him but Takumi reasoned saying that when he drives everything felt slower and slower. And that's when it hits him, that his son was actually getting faster and faster.
Yeah? Unless you live here in Manila, and have migraines from a day at work and tired from some of the plastic people, you want to go home with a smooth ride passing thru rush hour traffic with our moon-surfaced roads, muddy spills, years-delayed road construction and some factors like beggars knocking at your windows at every traffic intersection while their friends play on your spoilers and canards. Or even the anti-lowered driveways that were designed to humiliate all RWD cars just to park. Like I saw a proper setup M3 with no tints running in our home avenue, EDSA, bouncing like hell and the poor passenger's hilarious to look at while travelling 40KPH (not MPH) along with other cars. Even those wide VOLTEX spoilers are dancing, no match in our perfectly paved roads.
Donut Media... I'm an aspiring professional racing driver currently in Formula 4, and I just came across the biggest piece of information for me moving forward - and it definitely wasnt about what makes a slow car feel fast. Thank you for this video guys... Wow.
At 60 my 4Runner feels like it’s entering the earth’s atmosphere, shaking and screaming including sometimes Edit: My right front brake caliper fucked itself so it was literally jammed shut so the wheel would barely turn, that caused the shaking
I do quite a lot of Simracing and it is so true and so fascinating to notice that the better you get to know the car and the track (and I mean hundrerds of laps and many hours in) everything seems to go slower, but you are actually going faster.
I had 2 VWs and in those, I knew pretty much exactly how fast I was going without looking into the dashboard. Then I bought a Citroen and even after 3 years, I have no idea how fast I'm going... The first time I took it while going to work, I caught myself going nearly 90km/h where the limit is 50km/h. I thought I was going 50... Luckily, there were no cops around... A couple of days ago, I took my GF's Ford Ka to car wash and - I knew exactly how fast I was going after a matter of minutes, without looking at dashboard! Later I came back into my Citroen, and once again - no clue about the speed... To make matters stranger, my uncle is a pro driver and he got only 2 speeding tickets in his life; both in Citroen... This video made it 0 clearer to me why this happens, but it simply is - in some cars, you feel speed differently...
Here in Brazil there are buses with air suspensions and spring suspensions. With air suspensions you don't feel you are going fast because with the air suspension you can't feel the road bumps. With spring suspension you can feel all the bumps and the whole bus starts shaking at high speeds.
@Warm Soft Kitty Because it feels like a proper driver's car. My father has a restored 1970 ford mustang mach 1 and I can tell you with 100% certainty that my car is faster than his in a straight line and in cornering. Sure there is a 40+ years difference but why would anybody buy the Mach 1? Nostalgia.
*_This also is a way to make your car feel faster_* More low to the ground means, feels faster, also, if you remove sound protection, it will feel faster aswell. Drive a go cart, drive one normally, then drive one that’s been lifted up.
Let me add to this. My father has a M3 E92. And I drive it every now and then. While I could have gone for something like an M2 or higher, I simply choose... an Opel Corsa E 1.4T GSI with 210HP and 280NM. Now hear me out. Im not going to win a cup on the German Autobahn. But my Corsa is a hundret times more fun to drive then any AMG or BMW M on COUNTRY ROADS and Hillclimbs. Everyone can drive on a straight. Even my 6 year old cousin. Its not difficult. But these little pocket rockets stick to the ground just like a go cart, and they never break out or lose balance as they are greatly optimized for roads with lots of corners. Volker Strycek (former DTM champion) has fine tuned my little pocket rocket on the Nordschleife and this car just feels right at home when you have tight corners on the road. Same goes for a Polo GTI. Or a Ford Fiesta ST. You can have PLENTY of Fun even with smallers cars. And a few of my friends own these little pocket rockets. These little fun vehicles tend to give you a better experience in corners then big cars with lots of powers. Ive had my fair share of duels with M4's, Audi RS3's and what not. And while they dust me on a straight road they absolutely sweat (and often lose balance) on roads with alot of corners since the cars cant immediately put all that horsepower onto the street and they struggle to keep up. But my little pocket rocket delivers 210HP and 280NM, all the time, in every Situation. Its also nice to see someone with 500HP car make an awkward face and respect you when you could keep up with a much smaller and weaker one. I may buy a bigger and stronger car in the future, but right now at the Age of 24 with no childten, the GSI delivers what I want.
@@yahirestrada9425 my 5.2 Ram also was loud af when I ran just longtube headers with extensions for a week. Fun, but terrible at the same time drone at 40-50mph cruising was HORRIBLE (But 60-75 was actually not all that bad, actually). When I had it straightpiped for a week just because, it was loud, tho still quieter than I expected (after hearing other straightpiped 2nd gens), but it definitely sounded like ass, and that very much was expected. Got a high quality set-up now, and even with a stock cam, worn stock timing chain, and cylinder compression in the double digits on 5 cylinders, it still sounds mint af, tho it's not nearly as loud as it would be if at least the compression and timing chain were where they should be.
This was very educational, thank you! One thing I immediately thought of (being a rather inexperienced driver) is that the lower the point of view, the faster a car feels - because the road in front of you is scrolling at a steeper angle, making it seem faster due to perspective. I had no idea so many other factors play a role in the sensation of speed though!
This is similar to how a car feels really fast after you throw a bunch of power at it but over time it feels like it is losing power when in reality it's just your brain adjusting to all the new inputs and the power level is actually staying the same.
I'm a mechanical engineer and you guys conceptually explained speed and things associated with speed (velocity, acceleration and jerk) better in 12 min then an entire semester of Physics I in college... Bravo.
As a freshman I can attest to this statement.
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@@alexzanderroberts995 omg I hope not
the fools said they werent gonna hear yet he clearly hears the dudes voice repeat the actual speed back. so why tf u sayin to plug ur ears and noise cancel out? then proceeds to say to much info is processed by him like soundof exhaust and up shifting and revving hen it was only supposed to be a feel test?
@@Rabiiid wrong comment section
My car trying to reach 60
*This little maneuver's gonna cost us 51 years.*
haha, I can hear the music.
@@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja Do you miss the joke or something?
@@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja You just said a fact, not joke.
And also
*This little maneuver’s gonna cost us 51k gallons of fuel.*
when you drive a land yacht
Cruisin' at 55 mph on my snowboard feels like I'm going to break the sound barrier 😂
I go down hill on my bicycle at about 30mph and I'm pretty sure hurts the sound barrier pretty bad but don't break it
@@smallerfreeze Haha close, I'm sure!
Whistler's got some nice long runs.
Same with skiing It’s probably from the fear of knowing that if you hit a tree there is no chance of survival
I hit 69 once at Killington on my snowboard as insane
One thing I can add to this discussion: lane width on the highway can influence how fast you think you're going. If I drive on a newer bit of highway with wider lanes than I'm used to, I literally have to remind myself that yes, I'm still doing 100kph and yes, that still means I need plenty of braking space in case that truck right therOHMYGOD
Thing I never understood about breaking space is that no car is going to instantly stop in front of you. They still need to slow down themsleves if they break, so yoh really just need a fast enough reaction to start breaking, not to actually stop.
@@lukasg4807 well if they break first there also is a speed difference. they also might have better brakes etc
@Lukas G The short answer: information and reaction times.
The long answer: it's been tested years ago that your reaction time is about half the total braking distance.
So if the driver in front of you notices something bad in front of him/her and starts braking hard, your brain in normal relaxed driving mode is not aware of this until your eyes register the brake lights, tell your brain, your brain tells your eyes to lock on the brake lights, the eyes send the info back that yes, those are really brake lights in your direct path, your brain tells your leg to start moving off one pedal and onto the other, and then the time it takes for your body and the car's mechanics to do what's needed to get the calipers onto your brakes. That's half the distance already gone. Even with sufficient distance to the car in front of you, your car will need to work hard to keep your crash stop from becoming a crash.
(Remember that Top Gear braking distance thing they did? Yeah that was bullsh-- I mean 'comedy'.)
The next thing: when a car in front of a close string of cars on the highway brakes a bit, the car behind it tends to brake a little harder to compensate for the cars being suddenly much closer (because of the already mentioned reaction speeds). The car behind that needs to brake even harder, the one behind that even more, etc., until cars end up stopping completely in a traffic jam or pile-up. Keeping enough distance does much to soften this effect, as cars are not 'suddenly much closer' -- you don't need to compensate -- and therefore helps to avoid traffic jams & pile-ups behind you.
Finally, there are situations where the car in front of you does brake faster than its brakes could do. For example, when the driver doesn't pay attention and rams another car. Or spins out of control. In those cases, a good distance means the difference between just touching your brake pedal the moment you hit the other vehicle, or driving much slower by that point. In other words, the difference between potentially murdering people and a stoved-in front bumper.
In an ideal world, you get the information about the obstacle the same time as the car in front of you does. In an ideal world, your cars are driving on a similar surface, with similar tyres, have the same type of brakes and they are equally well maintained, and no-one ever gets cut off, falls asleep, loses grip, has broken brake lights or spins out.
We do not live in an ideal world.
Lane width anywhere like 1 or 2 lane roads u feel like ur going so fast but once it becomes like over 4 holy crap it looks so slow
Tbh the first time when I just bought my car and was going 90kmh on the German autobahn it felt so fast, but now im going 180kmh and it feels more slower then ever. Ik that if ur gonna go even 200 on cruise control then it’s gonna feel like 50 cuz ur body is becoming more used to it.
It’s like what they say in the motorcycle community, it’s more fun driving a slow motorcycle fast than a fast motorcycle slow
Same goes for any vehicle
Um, car guys say the same thing, it's not a motorcycle thing. Coming from a motorcyclist sports car driver.
@@papatorr3669 😂😂😂😂
@@ithinkthatsmoses7922 Moses was a motorcyclist? 😲
Just drive the fast one faster.
“You might remember my show versus, I’m sorry” yea that wasn’t the best but your heart was in it big guy.
I felt bad when he said that
I lowkey liked it
The show wasn't bad, I learned a lot on the Camaro vs Mustang episode. Made me like Camaros more than I did! I just think trying to score everything seemed unnecessary.
I think it was good, but it just didn’t feel right. They could have kept it going and let him get more comfortable in front of the camera and maybe switch up the writer for it
I think it would be a good show if they just cut out the arbitrary scoring bit. Like if the show was just a look at the comparison between two cars or whatever and there was no attempt to declare one as "winner" it would be fine.
Honda Civic guys be like: “feel speed?”, “I am speed”
20 year old beat-up honda prelude guys be like "Feel speed? I take speed."
me in my 07 stock civic dx
@@jaidenbutler4930 same. 08’ lx
James: LOW POWAH BABY *BAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!*
ayyy, ‘97 civic with stick
"A jerk can be responsible for sensation of speed."
Well, duh. I'm controlling the gas pedal
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Lol, you can just control cars acceleration or velocity.
Jerk is out of your control
Mathematically: ds^3/d^3t
(Dj:da/dt
da:dv/dt
dv:ds/dt)
Jerk is the rate of change of acceleration.
Take it as the difference between acceleration of time A and time B.
Your GAS PEDAL can only control velocity and acceleration.
alternate intro:
why driving a go kart at 20 mph feels more exciting than driving a cr-v at 100 mph
Driving my z32 at 32 feels more exciting that my girlfriend hr-v at 120 mph (jk i would never accelerate the hr-v over 60)
i have a second gen crv with 250k miles and driving it at 100 is basically a death wish, fun af tho
@@twibbytv2518 them older CR-Vs and Rav4s feel fun af
A lightweight japanese car at 100mph? Thats probably suicide
@@antreaskonstantinou8585 name that one the kamikaze 😂😂
“...a loud exhaust, cut springs, and limo tint will make you less likely to speed.” -Jeremiah Burton
Best quote ever.
Its accurate too even without the experiment they did. Once you put all those on your car you are always aware that all the cops in your area are looking at you with tickets in their eyes.
@@alexisrivera200xable my 96 Toyota Corolla 5 speed just like that 5 percent tint front and BACK YOO custom 2 inch exhaust and it got custom Cai cause they don't make for my car and wrapped exhaust manifold yoo
@@cg7life357 Bro 96 Corolla what a gem
This is also why automatic drivers are always going way faster than manual drivers on highways, with less gears to go in to the car is much louder at higher speeds.
@@ReclusiveRychu true 😂 in my Mazda 5 speed, if anyone goes over 70 I'm like "damn why is everyone flying today". Although my Subaru is a 4 speed auto and still does great at 70-80. That torque converter really helps with taller gear ratios is the other factor.
*"I'd rather drive a slow car fast than drive a fast car slow"*
-Every Car Guy
Easy to say when you can’t afford fast car lol
@@OnEst_Opinion I could've bought a brand new car or easily 300-400hp used car but I bought a clean RSX type S with bolt ons. Saved money/it'll actually last/waaaayyyy more fun.
Enter the fastest car in the world....>>>>> every car rental ever
@@OnEst_Opinion ok
That's why I enjoy driving our Brabus Smart more than our Kia E-Niro with twice the horsepower and way faster acceleration. (7.5 s to 100 km/h instead of 10 s to 100km/h)
Had this feeling when I went from a BMW 530D to the Subaru WRX STI. With the BMW I would cruise at 220 on the Autobahn and be completely relaxed, While the STI felt like I was going twice as fast at 200.
Very true, even more when you have an old sti, everything makes a noise in the car and gives a sensation of going really fast
Weird autobahn flex but ok
Bros lucky he gets to drive there 😂
Stickers also help make your car feel faster.
Flames for extra hrspers
🤔My secret is...🕵 Hidden stickers.
But make sure you don't tell anyone...
Eurobeat
IF you car have V-Tec...
My '97 Audi A4 B5 at 30 feels like I' m doing 80mph.
Bruh, the B5 had a fairly good suspension for its time, I don't know what the hell you're on about.
i know the feels. 2.8 owner.
Bruh mine when at 120 felt like I was in hyperspace lol
@@SkylineFinesse same
@@Tuhopolttaja after 20+ years, any suspension is going to be worn down really bad. And it’s an A4.
**Every Miata Owner Has Entered the Chat**
No lie... I have a buddy who added a turbo to his. He kept saying "I bet my life" that his car was faster than mine. Poor guy would be dead now.
*Suzuki Cappuccino Owners Have Entered The Chat*
My mx5 is a damn rocket.
Miata nerds are mad cause the FR-S is better
@@Tanstin1 tell that to every automotive journalist. 🤣
The problem with the blindfold test is I doubt you're actually "sensing" what speed you're traveling-since, as you mentioned earlier in the video, you can't feel speed. I'd imagine what's happening in the blindfold experiment is that you're feeling the car accelerate and you're remembering the intensity and duration of that acceleration and matching that up mentally with your past experience with acceleration, same thing with deceleration. So the blindfold test is probably more of a mental equation than a "body sensation". Also, a car with stiffer suspension will let you feel more of the imperfections of the road at speed, which will also give you a pretty good idea of how fast you're traveling. Not because of the speed itself, but because your body knows what going over a bump in the road at 15 mph feels like vs 60 mph. So, it stands to reason that a stiffer suspension would be more accurate in the blindfold test.
You can feel speed if there's no obstruction, or hear it based on wind sound, usually greater speed equals louder wind noise
that is the point of the test.
.. it would be a big diff if they did a blind driving test stick,only seeing the tachometer and hearing the engine and so forth …. But that’s a death trap
First, feeling the car shacking is exactly how you feel the speed. The faster you go, the more unstable it feels.
Second, accuracy depends more on personal experience, because your senses are calibrated based of that. While more bumpiness can allow a better accuracy, previous experience is still th3 strongest factor.
"Why some slow cars FEEL fast" with an FRS in the thrumbnail
FRS Owners: *panic
Nah, the majority of us accept our cars are slow on the straights, that's not where driving ability comes into play though 😉
Not so much about someone's driving ability when the car is praised for being good in corners, having low center of gravity and almost a perfect weight distribution as well
@@Fury_BlackWolf wasnt saying it takes more skill to drive an FRS, literally just saying the straights dont take skill yet people are always after more speed.
hahahahaha
It's actually the opposite. I interrupt non car people that go "hey! nice car!" and blurt out "its not fast". Some sort of PTSD lol love the little fucker frs tho.
Its because older cars feel like they’re going to break down at high speeds and you get more adrenaline then driving a quieter and smoother car
😂😂😂😂😂
Being lower to the ground would help.
@@RennieAsh no it’s about what gear ur in how much torque and horsepower u have
alex k there’s many factors
@@alexk3469 he said it would H E L P
Just one criticism of your testing (for future reference). By giving direct feedback, saying what the actual speed was, after each guess you guys were adding a correction factor to the test. i.e. when a subject knows their error the subject can adjust to account for their perceived error and adjust their guesses to factor it (e.g. "Hmm, I think we're doing 50 but I was off by 10 last time so i'll guess 60"). This also means there was likely an element of practice too meaning which ever car was tested first will inevitably have a larger error that the second vehicle.
If doing a blind test like that, don't give feedback, just look at the data afterwards.
@Jon Galt same
This comment is super underrated
Yeah, this guy is right. You shouldn't give any feedback to your test subjects if you don't want to have an effect on their behaviour.
I don't think he heard anything.
@@kentaur3 ... agreed. He had ear plugs and noise canceling headphones on. The feedback was for the camera.
James May stated that after driving the Veyron at top speed he nearly opened the door while coasting at 70 mph. After going over 250 mph, his perception of speed was severely altered.
If 70 mph feels slow in a normal car, imagine in a Bugatti
It’s like when you’re on a road trip and you’ve been driving the speed limit for several hours. Then after stopping for gas/restroom, once you start driving again, it feels like you’re crawling until you get back up to speed.
Yes. This is so weird. After cruising in 120km/h for half an hour, 70/80 km/h feels like 30😂😂
I constantly do 180 km/h on the highway for 1-2 hours, and when i go back to the speed limit of 130 because the waze tells me a cop is nearby i feel like i am going 50. And then dropping down to 60km/h to take and exist feels like 20 km/h. It's insane.
i guess its like practicing with a heavier bat or with 2 bats so that going back to the normal one feels lighter and easier but just done unintentionally and bad
Redlining at 5 MPH in 1st gear, 15 in 2nd, 35 in 3rd, 50 in 4th and sitting like 12 inches off the ground made driving a 5 speed Geo Metro to the sandwhich shop and back feel like doing a lap of the Monaco GP.
this should be too comment i don’t know what’s wrong with people 😂😂😂😂😂
redlining at 5mph lmao
bro redline at 5 mph i have 2008 Suzuki marhut 4 speed manual that redlines the first gear at 13 mph bruh 28 at 2nd gear the car only have 3 cylinder 800 cc that gives 43 HP engine
Man I'm going like 15 in first in my Saturn Sky
I just got a Miata speed lol and this is tru I bang gears in a residential area
"Or putting an M badge on the back"
Shots fired!
NOOOOO
PRECIOUS BMWs
At least I still have my e36 325i
@@christopherbanks1773 I like old BMWs, but have you seen the new one? Ugly as hell.
@@angelgjr1999 I love the boxier styled ones. With or without stance.
m's were fine until turbo's. the brand was fine with inline 6's. v8's weren't as bad as the m turbo's. most affordable german option that could be set up for anything but drag racing. they got way off the mark but were one of the last holdout's
I feel personally attacked xD
"in a road car we don't want all that racecar noise and vibration"
Yes I do.
Exactly bud i was like "Talk about yourself!"
normal people dont want that on the highway... if you want that you can remove all your soundproof things on the door (weight reduction bro)
I don't
Hell yeah!!! I’m putting glass packs on all 3 of my cars! One is a 7.7L 472 ci big block v8 375hp 500tq!! The other 2 are 4.6L 279 ci all aluminum N*’s 320hp 315tq and 275hp 300tq respectively.
@@keisuketakahasi4584 I strongly prefer the "racecar" over the "insulated bubble" feel
"Why do some cars feel fast?" A greater question is, why are they all Hondas
bro facts but im driving a 2021 honda insight so ? !!!!!
V-tec 😂
So if everyone drives a sports car we’re more likely to collectively drive slower? Interesting
Kinda depends, actually. If everyone drove sports cars, more woul get more accustomed to be lower to the road and at least be better able to *handle* more speed. These crossovers tend to have so much ride height that the worst arses in town drive Nissan Muranoes, no kidding. Basically they have no clue what's going on, just 'feel slow.'
@@OllamhDrab It also ties in to their personally acceptable levels of perceived safety. SUV's make people feel safe, and they tend to drive more recklessly until they're back in that band of perceived safety. Just like when you slow down because you feel unsafe. It's a lot more than just ride height.
@@mrkazman I got a new reason why crossover is just goddamn stupid body type
To formulate the same speed ratio you should get a loud exhuast to pop, coil overs to scape. Four doors are scientistificlly proven to hold more hoes.
@@Yambasetevo lmaoo😂
I’ve found that death traps also feel a lot faster than they actually are
Yeah you ever been in a Geo Metro at 40? Feels like you’re going 190
@@local38on-tv try a GEO Spectrum at 90mph. I was certain I was going to die.
@@zosxavius Yea, and it took getting up to 200 kmph for me to even start getting scared in a twin turbo subaru. . .
No I wasnt driving.
My jeep definitely feels faster than it is but it’s also a. Death trap
800 billion dollar speed machine: 90 miles=sneaking speed
any car from the 90s priced at 200 dollars gone through 6 different owners and mechanics fear it: 20 miles feels like you just passed an sr71
I used to drive a 1litre Toyota Aygo tell me about it. Every time I did 60 it felt like I was going 150+
I drive one as a pizza guy, I can relate
I've done 140 in my peugeot 108(same platform)
Because weight
I have 2001 Suzuki swift, 100 km/h feel like it's gonna blow me off the road
Dude I drive a 06 Yaris hatch with the 1L, 3 cylinder 😂
Just let it warm up and 2nd gear is potent af with 6.5k rev limit and 50mph top end and man it feels good, tho I personally have never gone to 50 in 2nd or hit the Rev limiter
Good to know about context altering our perception of speed. It reminded me of how, years ago, in World of Warcraft, I found flying mounts way more fun when flying low. Now it makes sense that when flying higher up at the same speed, it felt really slow because I had all the context of where I was coming from and going to. Flying close to the ground at the same speed felt way faster. Cool how it rings true even in a case like that.
I hope we see Joey more, felt bad when he had to apologize you guys really laid into him back then:/ The mans got a passion just like the rest of the guys and girls at Donut, and although the show wasn’t perfect I enjoyed it truthfully, Joey if you read this we love you man! Keep up the good work and thanks for being apart of what makes Donut great, and that’s having a love for cars!!
What exactly happened? I was a big fan of Versus...
Agree, sure the show was a bit flawed but he did a good job as a presenter
@ElLocoGeronimo it got cancelled because a lot of people were sad that the car they preferred didn't win. I really feel bad for the dude because it was *his* opinion, but even tho he decided to cut the part where we says who is the overall winner, people still unnecessarily complained.
@@BurnPerimeter where can I find videos on this? I feel like I'm out of the loop
I loved vs. was so sad to see it go
Donut media: releases this video
Vtec owners: sir i feel atacked
Can confirm
my Acura and I feel attacked
As an owner of a k20 civic, I can confirm going 30 mph feels like going 50 mph
Says the guy with a VW profilepic.
@@Fury_BlackWolf #1.8t never lose (until people started to turbocharge the VR6)
I think that the phenomena due to the lower riding height is due to the fact that you're closer to the ground so the 'movement' of the floor relative to you seems greater. Compare that to riding in a plane, you're super far from the area you're traveling across but you're traveling at high speeds. I think that concept applies to higher vehicles vs lower vehicles
The answer is simple.
People having a fisheye lens/optics. It is distorted like a barrel roll effect.
And you have a motion blur effect due to low data updates. It helps in speed detection.
Since you have to watch in straight line while driving, you will have issues with blur due optics.
While object is far from you AND you reaching it for long period - it will feels like driving slow
If object is closer to a viewer, and changes fast - it will feels like a fast moving pace.
Also, we have a phenomena of "constant speed", it is a brain "energy saving" issue.
In a very short terms, brain don't want to process info every single second.
The moment when everything around you stills the same - brain skips, no needs in updates.
But, our brain is trained to detect changes in environment, and very fast processing it. Like:
Drive 5-7mph, and then instantly go 20-30mph - brain will instantly say "wow, danger, stop!"
But the same thing - for a high speeds.
Drive 100mph for a 1 minute, it will be "stop!". Drive 5-10mins - it will be like 40mph.
But the moment you will reduce speed from 100 to 40 - instantly feels like 5mph...
But that's only while looking straight forward. Look to sides, and bang, you will know actual speed.
Also try the same with looking straight down on a road from a passenger seat.
I did this in a shooter game, had the same movement speed for my character but I modified the height, from 6ft2 to 7ft2 the diff was insane in terms of speed
Yup. This is why the Civic EF hatch is so popular; when you can see the ground 3 feet in front of your bumper, everything feels fast.
Yeah like I was going 130mph on a train a few weeks ago and it felt like not faster than 60
Best video on youtube - I have an MX5 - your description makes perfect sense - I have always described the effect of a sports car as being the rate of information - I learnt a lot from your film - keep up the good work.
I reckon we should give Joey one more chance hosting a show. Such a humble dude he is.
Agreed.
He seemed to biased to host the show
@@peppermaker5227 it is his opinion. He just share his. He didnt generalize it for all of us.
What happened in his show?
Yeah what he do? Lol
My Abarth feels exciting at 35-40, all while I’m getting passed by minivans haha
Those things sound awesome
hey its one fast shoe box. personally i can’t fit 😅
And I think you are best friend of mechanic becoz they always broke😂
I'm 6"1 and I only have knee fitting issues but you can deal with it tbh.
@@ipie13579 you would be surprised I have a friend that's 2.10 and he almost doesn't fit in a mustang but does fit in a Toyota aygo
Jeremiah needs another show. I would like to see more of him, very knowledgeable person. Keep it up man.
Very interesting.
In my S5, I drive slower in dynamic than in comfort mode because I feel every bit of the road. More aggressive shifts and exhaust crackling remind me to let up early because I feel like I'm hauling ass.
In comfort mode, the powerband isn't as aggressive, but the smoothness of it creeps up so quick. The road is plush and the shifts are seamless. Very easy to hit 60 in a 45 unintentionally.
“More actual science”
If only there was a garage for this...
A garage...
For science...
A.... *science garage*
I miss Bart
@@joseacuna3239 dude 😪
What happened to that guy he was great
What happened to Bart? Did he leave?
@@pointbreak24 He became a dad and never came back
When you floor it all the way to 4th gear in your miata and you’re still going 20 under the speed limit
but it feels good doing it :D
@@colto2312 sure does, best car to keep your license with
Then do a heel n toe downshift to avoid spinning... becuase those 20 feel like 80 on that lil miata
I'm going at least almost 90 floored out in 4th in my Miata
@@noahvs1999 🤯
Going 40 MPH in a Toyota Supra: meh.
Going 40 MPH in a Daihatsu Mira: *oh yeah im gonna show you some real speed*
*Eurobeat intensifies*
You missed out to use your name
As a Mira/Cuore owner: ever tried to hit 100 mph? You won't but it feels faster than formula 1
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@@maartenvm93 underrated comment
Thanks for sharing this! Super interesting. Went from driving an Xterra to an XB and I have to be sooooo f’n careful on the freeway. On a good day I’ll hit 50 on the on ramp and be breaking 80 by the time I merge. Like how?! Still trying to wrap my brain around the info dump here and how driving a smaller car has made me speed racer. I never experienced this driving around in the Xterra. In like 15 years of having one I got one speeding ticket - and that was due to being in an unknown area and driving into a school zone. Every time I take the XB out I legit feel like I’m in a go cart. Crazy what a difference size, weight and acceleration play.
So if the cops ask why I installed that 110db exhaust I’ll tell them it’s bc I want to speed less?
Poor Joey! All he did was being a fan boy xD I mean I didn’t like the show either but I didn’t like the whole concept and felt actually kinda bad for him.
yeah he didnt need to apologize :( i felt bad as well
I liked the show tho....but I knew it won't last long
My thoughts exactly. People are being too mean to Joey. Seems like a cool guy just like everyone who works at Donut.
Let's keep it a buck. The only reason his show was cancelled was because he felt Bugatti was a better company than Koenigsegg after that everything he did was heavily criticised for little to no reason. Honestly I like Bugatti more but for different reasons than he specified but I give him mad respect for being able to say there was a winner rather than just leaving it as a tie then saying u decide on the comment section however I feel no matter what so long as he said Bugatti was better there'd be a huge dislike ratio on the vid
Seems like a cool guy it just was the right show
"putting M badge behind it."
H-how dare you! *weep*
Meh, I bet these guys couldn't pick out an M car they wouldn't drive.
People who changed their Honda logo red to gain extra 3 hrsprs: 😭
@@Wakabatan
Nah man that red Honda logo gives a 10% torque boost
@@DrewGlenzer bet they could pick out a car with an m badge they don't wanna drive. Lol.
@@dustinjames1268 *twerk boost
When I was a vehicle tester, these were some of the most important factors we had to grade. Because regardless of how a vehicle performs, consumer satisfaction heavily relies on the *feel* of the drive. A total clunker could still be a fan favorite if it feels smooth or fast enough.
"It ain't about the size of the boat. It's about the motion in the ocean"
Signed, stock M20 E30 owner
M42 here bro, I feel this
n54 e92 owner here
Co signed, Bugeye 2.5ts owner
E24 owner. Not only does it feel slow, it is!
@@devinwalton408 which variant ? plus that car was fast when it first came out. the fact that it still drives today is already impressive
"We DoNt wAnT tO bE BoMbArDeD wItH RaCeCar FeElInGs aNd NoIsEs"
Correction: Thats exactly what I want in a car
In a family SUV? I doubt that.
@@DpRD_DucK maybe not an suv. But most other regular cars
@@DpRD_DucK I don’t want a family SUV
Y’all need to just get a Camaro SS or Corvette, they give you comfort and race feel very well balanced
@@DpRD_DucK @Stapleton42 made his family SUV into a race car, so why not?
Joey Rassool found his niche, presenting while driving. His voice was natural and pleasant to listen to while delivering information in this video. More Joey Rassool in cars please!
And this is why Subaru WRX STI are still so popular to this day, despite their engine having 280 HP. It just feels like you're going so fast while only at 40 mph, on the highway, you feel like you're driving a speed demon. But honestly it isn't going over the speed limit, just feel like a high-end luxury sport vehicle.
So thats why the high crossover drivers speed like maniacs.
Omg, so true, I always see middle-aged ladies often even with disabled placards in the window flying like 30 over the speed limit in those newer raised crossover type cars
@@nodsib my mom is that lady I always say to her “your car feels way slower than it is”. One time I turned onto the highways from her house going like 20kmh floored it to 120kmh she didn’t even notice just kept looking at her phone 😂
@@nodsib they said "high" as under the influence, cuz their perception of speed decreases.
Golf cart drivers too. In my neighborhood those mfers are out to kill or be killed, stop signs aren’t required or even recommended, but just a mild suggestion for those geezers who think they’re still 20.
3:58 don't apologise mate, we miss you.
Ye he was good
I don't get why he's apologising/what the hate is about
The show wasn't perfect but it wasn't his hosting, it was the shows formula. It was to biased which made people who disagreed annoyed. If they re did that and then left it up to us to vote in the comments and then told us the results at the beginning of the next episode it would have been awesome
@@NickolitheSpartan117 agreed. I like that at the end they stopped having the points and just showed how the cars or whatever differed and didn't draw a conclusion so that the viewer could decide which they liked better. If that had done that from the beginning it might still be around
@@NickolitheSpartan117 what show? Did I miss something?
"We don't want be bombarded with race car noises and vibration"
- Sorry, we?
Racecar or no car.
@@squirtlejim8727 I agree
😂😂 same soon as i got my E60 i went to work to make the sound audible, dampening panels , mufflerd , resonators etc
He said in a minivan the average demographic for a mini van isn't gonna wanna racecar
@@chrislinden1884 racecar or no car. Demon swap a grand caravan or walk.
Some things I found. Low car, Stiff suspension, Short gears, all help make a car feel faster!
I can agree, driving a go kart 40 mph is absolutely exhilarating and also terrifying. 10/10 would do it again.
Driving a tractor at 30 feels like a death wish
I went 32 on a bird / lyft scooter in San Diego. Almost ate shit
nah, but 60 is enough
I occasionally drive a yamaha chappy 1978 moped 1hp. At 20mph it feels like a car in 50mph
As a fellow Mechanical Engineer, I thoroughly enjoyed this episode and gladto see you guys are sort of going the myth busters testing route. Bring science to the people 🙌🏾
Aw joey you hit me in the feels bro. I think you're a fine on screen presenter, I just think vs. was a flawed concept. I can't wait to see your next project.
Newer Mazda 3s are really good for feeling fast when it's actually slow. The sport mode is so damn fun
fr my dad has a 2021 mazda 3 sport black edition and it feels fast af even though it only has i think around 160-170(?) hp
I love how Joey said sorry. People got soooooo heated about his series lmaoooo
LMAOOOOO MY ASS WENT OFF WHEN HE SAID THAT
so glad that got canned
Whats the backstory?
@@Churroboyyy yeah would like to know
@@Churroboyyy Now you see, In many *(More like... almost or all)* of the episodes of their series; "Vs" *(A show from months ago about a comparison between two contenders of either Cars or Engines or Drivers, or etc.)* that guy is saying things that are either misinforming or "biased" or any other mistaken stuffs... and all of people who watch it, are so very mad at him, so that series received awful amounts of hate... so much hate that the show is cancelled.
This is just my point of view and also my... uh... "opinion"?
If there's any nonsense stuffs that you all read in my comment then I'm sorry and feel free to correct me.
Fun fact: When you notice pedestrian very front of your car, any car will feel fast.
Lmao, very true!
Good observation 👍
true
"you might remember me from my show versus, and if you do, I'm sorry."
F
Big F
F
F
Never liked his show. He always said some dumb crap about the better side💩
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When I'm going very fast I tend to notice that all the active thinking gets deactivated and much happens from muscle memory etc, also when close calls or sliding out (on a motorcycle) happen everything is slowed down a lot to a point where I've had way more time to react precisely than when I rewatch it on the video, its an interesting phenomenon
But I think that this happens because there is no right focus in the videos, the whole image is in focus and we are the ones who see where we want to focus, when we review our own accidents.
It's the same thing as when I record videos riding a motorcycle and sometimes I look at people's faces and in the video you can't tell that I'm looking at the person, etc.
Day 248 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad
First Reply!
I’m such a loser...
Didn't even finish watching the video and you've already got your comment. Nice.
Everyone like this commentttt
the lord returns
ayy
Poor joey is so ashamed of his show that honestly wasn’t even that bad.
I wonder what happens to all the host with cancelled shows at Donut (science garage, VS, etc.)
It was getting better as they dropped the arbitrary number score. I was sad to see it go personally, but I'm happy he's still at Donut!
I never knew Jeremiah was into sneakers I peep those 11s 👀
Space jammin on B2B field testing days - Jerry
This is my favorite show on the channel. Love your solo content Jeremiah
5:42 That "M badge" roast though! XD
feeling like my 105 horsepower car turns into a 750 horsepower monster at fridays when driving home from work 😂 well that‘s fast! haha
World of Sports THIS! 🤣🤣🤣 feeling it
105hp? Pathetic. Mine is much better at 106hp. 😂
especially when all the lights turn green brooo
Danny Colón damn man, what are you driving? I gotta look for an upgrade 😂
Everyone with a 100 CHP car adds a few extra horses.
2:47 *Starts explaining Microaccelerations*
Me: *Starts having flashbacks of when the bus driver floored it at a railroad crossing and I got launched so high I hit my head on the ceiling of the bus*
Buses begin to feel like race cars when they starting competing each other at 40mph
That’s not a micro vibration in my book haha
Macroaccelerations
i used to sit in the back of the bus and stand up before the bus went over a speedbump at school it would fling me over into the next seat it was really fun
@@myomyataung8546 Where I live, they compete each other with even 140 km/h
4:52 I actually run NVH testing as one of my tasks at my job! Its pretty neat stuff. I work in an automotive R&D Testing Lab.
“How a slow feeling car feels fast”
*camera cuts to a Miata
Me... A Miata owner : 👀
Thats a fast car
@@ocallaghan3865 more like a fast sounding car haha . @7000 rpms and engine sounds like it about to explode but I’m only at like 35 mph
Your revs are lower and your car is more powerful and heavier than my upcoming car
@@ocallaghan3865 if that’s a fast car to you I feel bad for you. It’s quick sure not fast in any means
@@ocallaghan3865 one word, wrong
So that's the reason all of the people in pickups drive like idiots on the highway, they FEEL like they are going 60 when they're actually going 75. Isn't that right.
I get passed by lifted jeeps doing 90mph all the time. Like death wish much?
I am a victim of this the trucks with big a** tires mess with the speedometer mine is 10 mph off so from doing 70 actually doing 80 really confusing 😅
@@flexnlexus129 Put the right tires on that the vehicle is rated for and speedometer is calibrated for.
@@xm210c
That’s kinda a dumb answer considering they probably chose the larger tires. A better answer would be to explain the only reason that should be is the wrong size tires and to just keep the difference in mind. They also can be adjusted or replaced with other speed sensors depending on the vehicle.
People who want big tires want big tires. I think it’s dumb on a daily after a certain point. To be 10mph off, they’re probably pretty big.
Well 90 is 70 in Texas
Officer: Do you know how fast you were going?
Me: *Plays this video*
Speeding tickets no more
literally!
@@ericolens3 You must be the life of the party
You casually dissing BMW had me laughing for quite a while.
Kinda reminds me of the scene from initial D during the battle with that black r32. I can't remember the exact quote but Takumi told his dad he needed glasses and so they went to get his eyes checked, only to find out that Takumi had perfect vision. Bunta lashed out at him but Takumi reasoned saying that when he drives everything felt slower and slower.
And that's when it hits him, that his son was actually getting faster and faster.
Please go watch the actual anime :')
That netflix version was hard to watch after the original.
@@shaneme3 yeah I was gonna say i've seen the anime a few times and that bit is definitely not in it..
Wait what stage is that? I don't remember it
what the fuck did you see
This was in the live action adaptation lol
"We don't want be bombarded with race car noises and vibration" Sorry waht
Well, Mercedes and Rolls Royce owners don't seem to like it
On 200 mph speed ofc
Yeah? Unless you live here in Manila, and have migraines from a day at work and tired from some of the plastic people, you want to go home with a smooth ride passing thru rush hour traffic with our moon-surfaced roads, muddy spills, years-delayed road construction and some factors like beggars knocking at your windows at every traffic intersection while their friends play on your spoilers and canards. Or even the anti-lowered driveways that were designed to humiliate all RWD cars just to park.
Like I saw a proper setup M3 with no tints running in our home avenue, EDSA, bouncing like hell and the poor passenger's hilarious to look at while travelling 40KPH (not MPH) along with other cars. Even those wide VOLTEX spoilers are dancing, no match in our perfectly paved roads.
Its ok you'll figure it out when you're not 16 anymore
Donut Media... I'm an aspiring professional racing driver currently in Formula 4, and I just came across the biggest piece of information for me moving forward - and it definitely wasnt about what makes a slow car feel fast.
Thank you for this video guys... Wow.
Sheesh how young do you have to be to get into that? Hope you can make it to formula 1!
This kind of explains why when I'm driving to work at 10 over in my car there's almost always some new suv or truck behind me trying to eat my bumper.
"Or by simply putting a M badge on the back of it" 😂😂😂😂 Killed me
Saw this comment just as he said that, killed me to
Love the new direction for this series. Much like in Money Pit, the more practical info (as opposed to theoretical) we receive, the better. Nice job!
At 60 my 4Runner feels like it’s entering the earth’s atmosphere, shaking and screaming including sometimes
Edit: My right front brake caliper fucked itself so it was literally jammed shut so the wheel would barely turn, that caused the shaking
55 in my wrangler is squirrely 70 feels like a death wish
I drive an old 94 ranger 4x4, i know the feeling. All original suspension, lol
you probably bought one with frame damage then.. because my dads 4runner cruises 95 stable as my rs7
Anytime i went like around that speed and even 30 mph on a uhaul v8 it felt like i was going really fast.
I drive a flatbed tow truck for work and 65 mph feels like I'm going to hurdle through the space time continum
I do quite a lot of Simracing and it is so true and so fascinating to notice that the better you get to know the car and the track (and I mean hundrerds of laps and many hours in) everything seems to go slower, but you are actually going faster.
You don't know true speed until you set your FOV to Quake Pro in Minecraft
quake pro with speed 2 go z o o m
I’m not virgin idk what that is
@@Didnt_ask69 does not play minecraft, he is an unepic person.
@@Didnt_ask69 wow man you're not a virgin wow
i always played on quake pro
2:30 Oh hey it’s Chris Hadfield everyone’s favorite Canadian astronaut
I feel fast in my Buick Rendezvous because it feels like it could fall apart at any moment
lmao.
Lol it can. Mine sure did
I had 2 VWs and in those, I knew pretty much exactly how fast I was going without looking into the dashboard. Then I bought a Citroen and even after 3 years, I have no idea how fast I'm going... The first time I took it while going to work, I caught myself going nearly 90km/h where the limit is 50km/h. I thought I was going 50... Luckily, there were no cops around...
A couple of days ago, I took my GF's Ford Ka to car wash and - I knew exactly how fast I was going after a matter of minutes, without looking at dashboard! Later I came back into my Citroen, and once again - no clue about the speed...
To make matters stranger, my uncle is a pro driver and he got only 2 speeding tickets in his life; both in Citroen...
This video made it 0 clearer to me why this happens, but it simply is - in some cars, you feel speed differently...
Lol poor Joey. I actually thought he got fired.
Joe, we didn’t hate you, just the format of your show. It was almost designed to make people angry.
wait what i dont get it
@@08spencer dont get it either. His show is so informative with theory and real world.
@@dozyproductionss yeah, I can see that. But just the versus format I think just pissed off too many viewers
"Cuz v-tec kicks in yo"
Every civic owner
The my 2020 Civic SI is a Turbo so sadly I’ve never experienced V-TEC.
@@I.M.N.L the newer civics are heavier too id rather have a non turbo but have fun with your car tho
Cuz v-tec is a good feeling 😂
Also Prelude’s 😎👌👌
“putting an M badge on the back of it” that was savage bro 🤣
Here in Brazil there are buses with air suspensions and spring suspensions. With air suspensions you don't feel you are going fast because with the air suspension you can't feel the road bumps. With spring suspension you can feel all the bumps and the whole bus starts shaking at high speeds.
The FRS is Slow
My Heart: What did you just say?!
My Brain: Shut up! He's got a point
As an 86 enthusiast I can't deny this
@Warm Soft Kitty Because it feels like a proper driver's car. My father has a restored 1970 ford mustang mach 1 and I can tell you with 100% certainty that my car is faster than his in a straight line and in cornering. Sure there is a 40+ years difference but why would anybody buy the Mach 1? Nostalgia.
@Warm Soft Kitty No Mach 1 ever came with a v6.
@@carlmanu Totally agreed. It's just fun to drive.
I beat an frs in my dad's dodge caravan 😂
Same with motorcycles
Ive driven 50-110cc scooters and feels like you are about to die at 30mph
While my yamaha mt09, driving below 60mph feels boring
And earplugs make a huge difference, 100 feels like a 60.
*_This also is a way to make your car feel faster_*
More low to the ground means, feels faster, also, if you remove sound protection, it will feel faster aswell. Drive a go cart, drive one normally, then drive one that’s been lifted up.
Let me add to this. My father has a M3 E92. And I drive it every now and then.
While I could have gone for something like an M2 or higher, I simply choose... an Opel Corsa E 1.4T GSI with 210HP and 280NM.
Now hear me out. Im not going to win a cup on the German Autobahn. But my Corsa is a hundret times more fun to drive then any AMG or BMW M on COUNTRY ROADS and Hillclimbs.
Everyone can drive on a straight. Even my 6 year old cousin. Its not difficult.
But these little pocket rockets stick to the ground just like a go cart, and they never break out or lose balance as they are greatly optimized for roads with lots of corners.
Volker Strycek (former DTM champion) has fine tuned my little pocket rocket on the Nordschleife and this car just feels right at home when you have tight corners on the road. Same goes for a Polo GTI. Or a Ford Fiesta ST. You can have PLENTY of Fun even with smallers cars. And a few of my friends own these little pocket rockets. These little fun vehicles tend to give you a better experience in corners then big cars with lots of powers. Ive had my fair share of duels with M4's, Audi RS3's and what not. And while they dust me on a straight road they absolutely sweat (and often lose balance) on roads with alot of corners since the cars cant immediately put all that horsepower onto the street and they struggle to keep up. But my little pocket rocket delivers 210HP and 280NM, all the time, in every Situation.
Its also nice to see someone with 500HP car make an awkward face and respect you when you could keep up with a much smaller and weaker one.
I may buy a bigger and stronger car in the future, but right now at the Age of 24 with no childten, the GSI delivers what I want.
Found it really interesting to learn about reducing the sensations of speed. I'd love for you guys to do more stuff on racing!
YES! More science stuff my dude! The research that you put into this video was incredible! Thank you and keep up the amazing work!
I hear cars with loud exhausts that sound like they are haulin' ass but then when I look at them, I realize they aren't going that fast at all. 🤷♂️
Like a 90's golf with a 3" exhaust...
Lmaoo me asf with my 5.9 durango exhuast cut off its loud as shit but slo😂
Every honda civic ever. Lol
@@yahirestrada9425 my 5.2 Ram also was loud af when I ran just longtube headers with extensions for a week. Fun, but terrible at the same time drone at 40-50mph cruising was HORRIBLE (But 60-75 was actually not all that bad, actually).
When I had it straightpiped for a week just because, it was loud, tho still quieter than I expected (after hearing other straightpiped 2nd gens), but it definitely sounded like ass, and that very much was expected. Got a high quality set-up now, and even with a stock cam, worn stock timing chain, and cylinder compression in the double digits on 5 cylinders, it still sounds mint af, tho it's not nearly as loud as it would be if at least the compression and timing chain were where they should be.
effspot 👀
I drove in someone's Nissan Versa and at 45 it felt fast as hell. It was so fun.
BRZ owners watching this: 👁💧👄💧👁
Brz owners are not watching this. They are to busy vaping.
Was looking for this comment 😂
Jason Flicstein *Subaru owners
This was very educational, thank you!
One thing I immediately thought of (being a rather inexperienced driver) is that the lower the point of view, the faster a car feels - because the road in front of you is scrolling at a steeper angle, making it seem faster due to perspective.
I had no idea so many other factors play a role in the sensation of speed though!
you've actually got it the wrong way. if the angle is steeper then it seems slower and if the angle is bigger it seems faster.
This is similar to how a car feels really fast after you throw a bunch of power at it but over time it feels like it is losing power when in reality it's just your brain adjusting to all the new inputs and the power level is actually staying the same.
170 kph in my old corsa felt like a space shuttl entering atmosphere while 170 kph in my e90 320i feels really comfortable