Bill, i watch tons of these videos. I love yours by far the most ! They are real. No talking 100 miles an hour no editing to go faster... pace is comfortable. You just prepare, and deliver great presentations.. thanks! Oh .. and you answer everyone
Comment from the Nord Forum: The TT515A’s are a game-changer. I’m genuinely impressed with their sound quality-clear, detailed, and uncompressed. As a pianist, I’ve struggled to find a PA speaker that handles piano transients well, but these do it perfectly. At $2,000 each, they’re an amazing value!
Brother you are really awesome for providing such a service to us technology challenged. A few weeks ago watching your videos I decided to go for the QSC CP8 and now I'm second guessing my decision. lol! Thank you!
I've owned the QSC. The thing about those top speakers with smaller woofers is that at high levels they DSP will start to draw the sound back. Something I noted when using them live. Sound quality is one thing. But performance is another. Line arrays are built to not compromise in the DSP area.
Hi Bill, that was a great review on these two speakers. I have learned a lot from you watching your videos and looking forward to your next comparison.
Check out these videos on the QSC K8.2/CP8 ua-cam.com/video/nymc8nQLL5w/v-deo.html My favorite set up! K8.2 over Bose Sub2 ua-cam.com/video/PLT-192t-Wc/v-deo.html
Took a second to realize you were playing both at times during the first song. Hearing them each separated, I easily liked the QSC better. I like RCF gear, but I'm not sure I'd get this TT-515. Would likely be different in person, but going off this video, I'd get the QSC, hands down.
Agree, these speakers are made for a very specific purpose. Stage side fills/fixed installation fills. These are NOT full range speakers! The much cheaper QSC K8.2, even my $500 Turbosound iP300 is more full range with better mids and low end. On the other hand the high end of the 515 cuts through with razor clean accuracy that no other PA speaker I have heard can match!
Doing some further listening tests, amazed at low volume say 70dB the RCF stays crystal clear like a Studio Monitor! I have never experienced this with any other PA speaker. Of course they sound their best in the 90-100dB range where they still retain that Studio Monitor sound, only much louder. This is not a full range speaker, it NEEDS a subwoofer. With a subwoofer filling in some low mids I can see this replacing a home Hi-fi system. A pair, VERY pricy at $3,400 not including a sub and some type of mixer.
I have a pair of IX12's and it seems to my ears that they retain an amazing degree of linearity at low SPL's too, say 50-70db (they seem a bit clearer than the technics I use for studio purposes).
Sorry but it's an apple/orange comparison. The main problem with this test is compare indoor so close to the speaker. Rcf and db technologies have a special FIR PHASE technology that allow to spread the sound very far keeping spl better than standard horn drivers, with good clarity. So please you have to do a test in a big open space, maybe at distance you have more spl from the rcf. Second: Qsc is a little fullrange PA that you can use as a standalone speaker, nobody think to use the tt505 without its base... Crossover point is around 240 hz so it's not a full range top.
Thanks for the education! I agree the RCF 515 sounds much better at a volume much higher than I tested, maybe 95-100dB. On the other hand at its real world clipping limit of 108dB it didn't sound very good. You would need the more expensive, $3,000 for a single box!- TT10 with 130dB headroom to better the QSC K8.2 max volume. I did test indoors in a wide open space. I was close though at 3-4 meters. The TT515 definitely would not be the best choice for outdoors. X-over is at 90Hz, definitely NEEDS a sub.
@@CrossoverClassic With backing tracks using a small subwoofer makes the TT515 a full range Hi-fi/live sounding experience! Depending on how many people you are performing for, I can recommend subs from $200- $1,300. Let me know if you need recommendations.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Hi Bill ! 150-175 people max. Above, i use a sound engineer with equipment. I recently sold two behringer 500 watt 12 in subs. I'm thinking of getting a bose sub 1. I think it'll be sufficient and I'm really focused on small and light ! I have just one 8.2 ..i was thinking about selling back to GC towards 515 but may keep the pre 2020 8.2 as I'd only get about 400 bucks for it. And it is certainly a reasonable investment to have a backup speaker of the quality of the 8. 2 for $400. I usually start out by singing to a combination of electric and mostly acoustic guitar accompaniment tracks. Then I transition to full instrumental versions And with an older crowd typically, i think that will be more than sufficient. I love the footprint in my car on the back floor as well as on stage. I'm wondering about mic feedback using a 515 though. Do you see any disadvantages/advantages of going with the rcf 808 besides price difference !
@@CrossoverClassic 808 will be an upgrade in output from the Sub1 and lighter. The question is for your type of gig, will 127dB max be used over the 124dB of the Sub1? Can't answer the question of mic feedback with 515, never tried it. You can call RCF tech support. They are great and will answer all your questions. The 515 is a better sounding top than the 8.2 but unless you A/B ed them side by side your audience will never know the difference. Again slightly lighter than 8.2. Be aware that you give up some headroom going with the 515.
This comparison doesn't make any sense. You're comparing a pro high end column array top with a conventional consumer grade top/monitor? Why? You couldn't find two more radically different speakers.
I couldn't agree with you. It is a Pro top but one of the reasons I made this video was the extreme price tag for the performance achieved. Have you heard them side by side? I doubt it. If you watched the whole video I do say the RCF has a better overall sound. Both speakers have the same 127dB max dB. Both have similar excellent high end performance but I did say the RCF is the next level in SQ. The question is, is that worth an extra $1,000?? For DJ's, paying customers will hardly know the difference. I kept the speaker for its form factor and I have the extra cash for audiophile level PA gear, but for the majority of people who are not using it for a fixed install that needs that small form factor, the QSC K8.2 gives very similar performance. Radically different? You are wrong!
The 515 has 100 degree horizontal Dispersion. Hardly a line array characteristic. The 8.2 has>100 degree Dispersion (I think 105 degrees) further negating your assertion
Nice review, but considering, that through the DSP (menu) you can change the playback mode in the QSC LIVE,DANCE etc...so it would definitely sound much nicer, or crisper. Plus live itd definitely different.
As always, this video is excellent. I am getting ideas from watching your videos. I would appreciate your suggestion. In my DJing set-up, I use two pro 32/sub2s. For a larger dance floor output, would it be a good idea to keep 2 CP8s and add a QSC sub or sub2? There are some events where I just need that extra bass and sound? Any suggestions? Ty.
Glad you like the videos. For larger gigs I line out from the Pro32 for greater coverage/volume. QSC is the perfect sonic match with Bose! It adds high end frequencies/clarity that is rolled off with Bose. To match the max output of the Pro32 I use the QSC K8.2. Extra bass, next step up is an 18" sub.
 I own two k8.2s (from your videos) and I have used them in larger halls, but not close to the two pro 32s, more like 40-50 ft away. For larger dance floors I'm thinking of putting 8.2s about 10 or 20 feet apart from the 32s to the left and right. Along with one QSC 18" sub. I appreciate your input.
Those K 10.2 specs look good for 130 db SPL/32 lbs. I have F1s I'm thinking about replacing. F1s sound great, just heavier and bigger (132 db SPL/45lbs).
This might be a joke but how close do you think the cp8 would come to this rcf genius? I have couple of cp8 and they've lasted me very long and still going strong, is it worth if i sell them all and get these for the price tag? Thanks.
No joke, in some ways the CP8 is better! RCF you need a mixer. Even though the specs say the TT515 is louder, through my tests before clipping the CP8 was 2dB louder! QSC 110db/RCF 108dB. RCF does sound MUCH better near those max volumes where the QSC gets harsh. RCF sounds like a Studio Monitor at those volumes and you don't even know how loud you are playing! With the QSC, I'm running to turn it down/holding my ears. In front of a paying audience they will never know the difference, unless you A/B ed them side by side. So keep what you got unless you just love the RCF form factor or have deep $$$$ pockets and want the best PA sound available.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz really amazed by that conclusion! There's no way I would've believed that if it came from anyone else, like many subscribed to this channel, you're the only one whose advice I seriously believe in and take action accordingly, keep doing that, thanks....
Check is in the mail! Unfortunately going to them:( A lot of money but this is the cleanest Hi-fi/Studio Monitor sounding PA speaker I have ever heard! Even at low volume/70dB it sounded as clean as my Yamaha HS8. I've never heard another PA speaker sound good at low volume. Playing backing tracks the high end clarity/punch sounds like a live band playing. Just don't expect it to match your Yamaha DXR12's 130+dB. I got it up to 110dB and it started to get harsh but wasn't clipping. 100 dB and below is the sweet spot. This isn't a full range speaker so you NEED a subwoofer! One TT15 over a Bose Sub1 would be perfect for your duo gig! I also use the 42 lbs EV ELX12-sp sub or the RCF 702. For your larger gigs pairing with the Yamaha smooth midrange House Sound would be excellent. 22 Lbs, can't get much lighter-keeping it!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Cool thanks for the detailed response. I think you may have forgotten a word at the very top of your response but the way I take it towards the end you are keeping them. It's also nice to hear that they are as clean sounding like the HS8s as well! I've always wanted to try one of those ELX200 -12SP subs but I really just don't have a reason to get one at this point I guess.
@@JHGurganus Word I forgot, Yes - I'm keeping a single TT515. Actually thinking of pairing it with a Yamaha DBR10 to add some of those smooth Yamaha mids and some extra headroom. Should be an incredible combination!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Cool glad I took it as you were keeping it. Yes that combination will be interesting - the DBR & the TT515. Hope you see my other questions I posted this morning on your Evolve 30m comparison video. Sorry it's a lot of questions. So many options nowadays but I'd be curious to hear your answers and what you have to say. Glad you're keeping the TT!
I have both: 8.2 will be louder. Excellent high end clarity will be equal for both. Mids lacking on both, very similar sound signature. 8.2 Needs a sub. EV has better bass and in smaller gigs wouldn't need a sub. EV has wider dispersion. 120 degrees vs 105. EV doesn't need a speaker stand or pole. QSC 7 year warranty! I put the 8.2 over a Bose Sub1 or EV ELX12-sp sub. That combination far outperforms the EV30! If you don't need the extra headroom of the 8.2 the CP8 basically sounds the same at $500. Check out this video: ua-cam.com/video/xY_bw2Adn6c/v-deo.html
That would be an incredible combination! I have the previous generation the dual 12" K Sub. It hits hard! Can't imagine how good the Ks118 would be?? As far as max volume the QSC K10.2 would equal the output of the 130dB+ Ks118. Some people like the K8.2 better because of the wider 105 degree dispersion.
@@Eric_Morado Yes and No If you A/B them side by side the RCF SQ is the next level, especially over 100dB where QSC's get harsh. The RCF stays crystal clean and you want to turn them up more! Kind of like a Studio Monitor at 110dB. In a live situation your audience will never know the difference, but you will! RCF has a better dispersion of 100 degrees vs 75 degrees for the 12.2. I say no because at 132dB the K12.2 is almost twice as loud as the TT515. So comes down to do you want to spend an extra $1,000 per speaker for weight savings/form factor/sound quality? I would think the majority would go with the QSC.
Agree! This speaker especially NEEDS a sub. Yes, the weakness of the QSC, at volumes over 100dB they get harsh. The RCF stays crystal clear and you want to turn it up more! Really have to watch my hearing because there is zero distortion at those levels.
@@burhanuddin127 They only get harsh when pushed to their limit which is 110+dB! If you are playing anywhere near that limit you should be high passing to a sub. Using a mixer with mid control also helps to dial in your sound. Personally I love the crystal clean high end of QSC but always listen with a sub to fill in the missing low end.
Ist up here in Australia the RCF TT-515-A is over double the price of the qsc 8.2 also why go on about the hum? this is only a worry for studio monitors not live, you really should be comparing the TT to a higher spec'd /priced Speaker.
I think you missed the point of the video. The K8.2 equals 95% of the performance at a much lower price. People who like the form factor or willing to pay the extra $$$ for a slight improvement in clarity at high volume will be happy with the TT515. All other higher speced/priced speakers will be considerably larger and heavier. My focus on my channel is portable PA. The 27lbs K8.2 is the heaviest I carry.
Specs look very similar! Wonder who copied who? Yes, I kept it! Incredible performance for the size. Besides my RCF TT10 which is $3,000, it is my best sounding PA speaker in my collection!
alot of people get everything wrong. there are speakers for different use. even on the high end, most people now days belive they need line array for everything and they are the best, just cause they see them in live massive concerts. 🤦♂️
Boss… by you experience and your equipment (you have a lot 😂) it’s posible mix Evolve30M with Everse8 in stereo? If yes it’s enough for 100ppl dance party? Sorry… my english is not to good 😌
100 people dance maybe? Really need a subwoofer for that size crowd/purpose. I would run the Everse from a separate Aux out. It would be difficult to level match trying to do stereo left/right.
Thanks for answer, 1 sub & 1 top,($1500 or less) I do prefer a budget PA system to start because I only have a sedan for now, in the future I will invest in a Van. 👍👍 thanks man!
@@djallenpr5143 EV ZLX-12P G2 $500 over Subwoofer EV ELX200-12SP $800 no mixer required, both speakers run off the excellent EV App. 100 people with one top will be pushing it close but doable until you can save up for a second speaker. Other choices: Bose Sub1 subwoofer $900 Slightly less powerful than EV but smaller/lighter. Yamaha DBR12 131dB! Almost 2x louder than EV but needs a mixer-no APP/DSP $450.
Thanks for you’re time to research this and give me you’re best opinion. Three days ago I bought an EV Evolve 50m for $900 (excellent condition) so probably I’m going to resell it and get this system than you recommend me. Thanks my friend!!
Looking forward to putting the RCF TT-515 over the awesome Bose Sub2! RCF has a matching subwoofer, the TT808, but at $2,400 for a dual 8" sub NO THANKS! DJ's are saying they are using two 808's per side! Any day I would take the 18" QSC KS118 3,600 watts, 136dB, 35Hz low extension for $2,000! Bose Sub2 at $1,300 will probably equal the performance of the 808 and save you $1,100! Both have the same max SPL of 129dB but the Sub2 goes down to 37Hz vs 40Hz of the 808. 808 is lighter and slimmer and the High Pass matches up to the 515. www.rcf.it/en/products/product-detail/tt-808-as
Haven’t hooked the 515 to my sub 2 yet. One of the draws of the 808 for me was the size and that it powers the 515. I did a sound check with the set and a song that normally clipped my sub 2 didn’t clip the 808. I was SHOCKED
@@AaronStrawn Are you keeping these? Talked to SVS and they agreed these are not to take the place of the Evox12 which are louder. These are probably going to be no louder than your J8's. You will get some more headroom high passed through the 808. Can't argue with the incredible clarity, but these are not made for reception speakers, unless we are talking under 150 people. I don't see these outperforming a pair of EV30s. As I said, my $500 QSC CP8 is louder! To make matters worse when you do play these near clipping they sound as harsh as a Mackie Thump Go:( I couldn't imagine trading my Pro32/Sub2 for these. In some ways by themselves they are kind of AM radio, Zero mids! A real one trick pony. These are made for side fills/aux speakers. I lined out from my Pro32-Match made in heaven! I'm probably keeping the single 515 even though the price is crazy. For what it does, a little over 100dB or so, it adds incredible punch/clarity to a main speaker.
@@cduncan5690 I have never owned or even heard the Evox12. I am going strictly by what RCF Sales told me on the phone. I also saw Jason Jani's review and I think he is pushing these for the DJ market and they were not designed for that purpose. RCF agreed with me. I don't sell speakers for a living like he does. Buyer beware, do a lot more research before you run out and get ultra expensive speakers from the recommendation of a sales rep on UA-cam! I wouldn't show up with a pair of QSC CP8's for a wedding reception and the CP8's are louder than the 515's!
At low volumes say 85dB and below/home listening levels/busking/backyard parties, the S1Pro sounds very impressive. The QSC CP8 which is the model down from the K8.2 I talked about in this video is in another league! Plus if you don't need internal battery and reverb, the CP8 is only $500. QSC is a pro speaker made for live gigging up to 150 people with a sub. S1Pro is rated for 50 people max. Check out this video: ua-cam.com/video/PLT-192t-Wc/v-deo.html
I hope you use all these speakers you must have a nice wife, allowing you to spend that much on stuff. I get it all the microphones I have a war 700 in alone all the big sounds off I have my classical vocal lesson. I still enjoy it by the way, there's no comparison to a siege when RCf Zan a different level
That's the problem I don't use all of the speakers, but I hate to sell them at a 50% loss. My wife is nice but I usually have to wait until she leaves the house to have fun! I am a drummer who has played for over 30 years. My Ex wife said, "It's either me or the drums!" Long story short, I still have the beautiful 1968 Ludwig Gold Seal/Ringo set in blue sparkle!
Those speakers are much heavier than the 27 Lbs K8.2 My videos focus on max performance with portable PA's. For me 27 Lbs is the heaviest top I use. I have a QSC KW122, 151 Lbs Stays at home, too heavy! The RCF TT515 at 22 Lbs has incredible performance for its weight/form factor-actually the best!
You are 100% right! The 515 NEEDS a sub, even an inexpensive one fills in the bottom end to give you the missing full range sound. I think the main application is fixed installations that need something tucked away like a restaurant or under a stage. At this price, it was not meant to be a DJ speaker.
As a lover of music I will have to say the RCF is probably not worth the extra thousand dollars over the QSC. It definitely does look better but the QSC offers better low end performance at a fraction of the cost. You could get two QSC k8.2 for the price of one RCF. However if the RCF was competitively-priced, hands down i would choose RCF.
as I said... people are so pathological, there are speakers for different use. just as cars, would you take sport car to an off road trip end up stuck in a trench and complaining how much extra you paid... 🤷♂️
Bill, i watch tons of these videos. I love yours by far the most ! They are real. No talking 100 miles an hour no editing to go faster... pace is comfortable. You just prepare, and deliver great presentations.. thanks! Oh .. and you answer everyone
Much appreciate your positive feedback!
Comment from the Nord Forum: The TT515A’s are a game-changer. I’m genuinely impressed with their sound quality-clear, detailed, and uncompressed. As a pianist, I’ve struggled to find a PA speaker that handles piano transients well, but these do it perfectly. At $2,000 each, they’re an amazing value!
Brother you are really awesome for providing such a service to us technology challenged. A few weeks ago watching your videos I decided to go for the QSC CP8 and now I'm second guessing my decision. lol! Thank you!
Thanks for the compliment! Love my CP8, you made a great buying decision.
If budget is an issue the best sounding speaker you can get for the price is the QSC CP12. I own both CP8s and CP12S. Both are great options.
I've owned the QSC. The thing about those top speakers with smaller woofers is that at high levels they DSP will start to draw the sound back. Something I noted when using them live. Sound quality is one thing. But performance is another. Line arrays are built to not compromise in the DSP area.
Correct! at high volumes QSC gets harsh. RCF without DSP stays clean. Never knew the reason!
Hi Bill, that was a great review on these two speakers. I have learned a lot from you watching your videos and looking forward to your next comparison.
Rich, thanks for the compliment! Many more videos in the near future.
Thanks for your fair and honest review. I've been looking at the TT-515 but that price 😅
Don't forget the $150 necessary speaker to pole adapter! I got a deal for $100:) Chunk of steal made in China not Italy worth no more than $30 :(
Check out these videos on the QSC K8.2/CP8 ua-cam.com/video/nymc8nQLL5w/v-deo.html
My favorite set up! K8.2 over Bose Sub2 ua-cam.com/video/PLT-192t-Wc/v-deo.html
Took a second to realize you were playing both at times during the first song. Hearing them each separated, I easily liked the QSC better. I like RCF gear, but I'm not sure I'd get this TT-515. Would likely be different in person, but going off this video, I'd get the QSC, hands down.
Agree, these speakers are made for a very specific purpose. Stage side fills/fixed installation fills. These are NOT full range speakers! The much cheaper QSC K8.2, even my $500 Turbosound iP300 is more full range with better mids and low end. On the other hand the high end of the 515 cuts through with razor clean accuracy that no other PA speaker I have heard can match!
Doing some further listening tests, amazed at low volume say 70dB the RCF stays crystal clear like a Studio Monitor! I have never experienced this with any other PA speaker. Of course they sound their best in the 90-100dB range where they still retain that Studio Monitor sound, only much louder. This is not a full range speaker, it NEEDS a subwoofer. With a subwoofer filling in some low mids I can see this replacing a home Hi-fi system. A pair, VERY pricy at $3,400 not including a sub and some type of mixer.
I have a pair of IX12's and it seems to my ears that they retain an amazing degree of linearity at low SPL's too, say 50-70db (they seem a bit clearer than the technics I use for studio purposes).
Sorry but it's an apple/orange comparison.
The main problem with this test is compare indoor so close to the speaker.
Rcf and db technologies have a special FIR PHASE technology that allow to spread the sound very far keeping spl better than standard horn drivers, with good clarity.
So please you have to do a test in a big open space, maybe at distance you have more spl from the rcf.
Second:
Qsc is a little fullrange PA that you can use as a standalone speaker, nobody think to use the tt505 without its base... Crossover point is around 240 hz so it's not a full range top.
Thanks for the education! I agree the RCF 515 sounds much better at a volume much higher than I tested, maybe 95-100dB. On the other hand at its real world clipping limit of 108dB it didn't sound very good. You would need the more expensive, $3,000 for a single box!- TT10 with 130dB headroom to better the QSC K8.2 max volume. I did test indoors in a wide open space. I was close though at 3-4 meters. The TT515 definitely would not be the best choice for outdoors. X-over is at 90Hz, definitely NEEDS a sub.
I haven't tried it yet but the TT515 is going to be incredible for vocals!
Wow ! Really!? As a singer that songs to tracks (Bocelli, Groban, Buble) I'll be investigating that !
@@CrossoverClassic With backing tracks using a small subwoofer makes the TT515 a full range Hi-fi/live sounding experience! Depending on how many people you are performing for, I can recommend subs from $200- $1,300. Let me know if you need recommendations.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Hi Bill ! 150-175 people max. Above, i use a sound engineer with equipment. I recently sold two behringer 500 watt 12 in subs. I'm thinking of getting a bose sub 1. I think it'll be sufficient and I'm really focused on small and light ! I have just one 8.2 ..i was thinking about selling back to GC towards 515 but may keep the pre 2020 8.2 as I'd only get about 400 bucks for it. And it is certainly a reasonable investment to have a backup speaker of the quality of the 8. 2 for $400. I usually start out by singing to a combination of electric and mostly acoustic guitar accompaniment tracks. Then I transition to full instrumental versions And with an older crowd typically, i think that will be more than sufficient. I love the footprint in my car on the back floor as well as on stage. I'm wondering about mic feedback using a 515 though. Do you see any disadvantages/advantages of going with the rcf 808 besides price difference !
@@CrossoverClassic 808 will be an upgrade in output from the Sub1 and lighter. The question is for your type of gig, will 127dB max be used over the 124dB of the Sub1? Can't answer the question of mic feedback with 515, never tried it. You can call RCF tech support. They are great and will answer all your questions. The 515 is a better sounding top than the 8.2 but unless you A/B ed them side by side your audience will never know the difference. Again slightly lighter than 8.2. Be aware that you give up some headroom going with the 515.
This comparison doesn't make any sense. You're comparing a pro high end column array top with a conventional consumer grade top/monitor? Why? You couldn't find two more radically different speakers.
I couldn't agree with you. It is a Pro top but one of the reasons I made this video was the extreme price tag for the performance achieved. Have you heard them side by side? I doubt it. If you watched the whole video I do say the RCF has a better overall sound. Both speakers have the same 127dB max dB. Both have similar excellent high end performance but I did say the RCF is the next level in SQ. The question is, is that worth an extra $1,000?? For DJ's, paying customers will hardly know the difference. I kept the speaker for its form factor and I have the extra cash for audiophile level PA gear, but for the majority of people who are not using it for a fixed install that needs that small form factor, the QSC K8.2 gives very similar performance. Radically different? You are wrong!
The 515 has 100 degree horizontal Dispersion. Hardly a line array characteristic. The 8.2 has>100 degree Dispersion (I think 105 degrees) further negating your assertion
@@CrossoverClassic I said column array, not line array. If you don't understand the difference then you shouldn't comment.
@@CrossoverClassic You are right, the 515 doesn't have the dispersion of a column array. I think I meant over a sub it has the look of a column array.
@@DestroyerOfLiberasts ah yes I see now ..I was just taken aback by your comment which clearly did not make sense
Nice review, but considering, that through the DSP (menu) you can change the playback mode in the QSC LIVE,DANCE etc...so it would definitely sound much nicer, or crisper. Plus live itd definitely different.
Agree, DSP makes a world of difference!
KEEP IT!!! Love RCF
I did!
As always, this video is excellent. I am getting ideas from watching your videos. I would appreciate your suggestion. In my DJing set-up, I use two pro 32/sub2s. For a larger dance floor output, would it be a good idea to keep 2 CP8s and add a QSC sub or sub2? There are some events where I just need that extra bass and sound? Any suggestions? Ty.
Glad you like the videos. For larger gigs I line out from the Pro32 for greater coverage/volume. QSC is the perfect sonic match with Bose! It adds high end frequencies/clarity that is rolled off with Bose. To match the max output of the Pro32 I use the QSC K8.2. Extra bass, next step up is an 18" sub.
 I own two k8.2s (from your videos) and I have used them in larger halls, but not close to the two pro 32s, more like 40-50 ft away. For larger dance floors I'm thinking of putting 8.2s about 10 or 20 feet apart from the 32s to the left and right. Along with one QSC 18" sub. I appreciate your input.
Those K 10.2 specs look good for 130 db SPL/32 lbs. I have F1s I'm thinking about replacing. F1s sound great, just heavier and bigger (132 db SPL/45lbs).
@@sazprodj I'm jealous! That sounds like an amazing set up!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz do you mean the pro32/sub2/k8.2 set up? Got ideas from you. Thank you!
This might be a joke but how close do you think the cp8 would come to this rcf genius?
I have couple of cp8 and they've lasted me very long and still going strong, is it worth if i sell them all and get these for the price tag?
Thanks.
No joke, in some ways the CP8 is better! RCF you need a mixer. Even though the specs say the TT515 is louder, through my tests before clipping the CP8 was 2dB louder! QSC 110db/RCF 108dB. RCF does sound MUCH better near those max volumes where the QSC gets harsh. RCF sounds like a Studio Monitor at those volumes and you don't even know how loud you are playing! With the QSC, I'm running to turn it down/holding my ears. In front of a paying audience they will never know the difference, unless you A/B ed them side by side. So keep what you got unless you just love the RCF form factor or have deep $$$$ pockets and want the best PA sound available.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz really amazed by that conclusion!
There's no way I would've believed that if it came from anyone else, like many subscribed to this channel, you're the only one whose advice I seriously believe in and take action accordingly, keep doing that, thanks....
@@burhanuddin127 Thank you for those kind words!
You have any thoughts yet on whether or not you're gonna keep the RCF? I see you have an outside sound demo coming.
Check is in the mail! Unfortunately going to them:( A lot of money but this is the cleanest Hi-fi/Studio Monitor sounding PA speaker I have ever heard! Even at low volume/70dB it sounded as clean as my Yamaha HS8. I've never heard another PA speaker sound good at low volume. Playing backing tracks the high end clarity/punch sounds like a live band playing. Just don't expect it to match your Yamaha DXR12's 130+dB. I got it up to 110dB and it started to get harsh but wasn't clipping. 100 dB and below is the sweet spot. This isn't a full range speaker so you NEED a subwoofer! One TT15 over a Bose Sub1 would be perfect for your duo gig! I also use the 42 lbs EV ELX12-sp sub or the RCF 702. For your larger gigs pairing with the Yamaha smooth midrange House Sound would be excellent. 22 Lbs, can't get much lighter-keeping it!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Cool thanks for the detailed response. I think you may have forgotten a word at the very top of your response but the way I take it towards the end you are keeping them. It's also nice to hear that they are as clean sounding like the HS8s as well!
I've always wanted to try one of those ELX200 -12SP subs but I really just don't have a reason to get one at this point I guess.
@@JHGurganus Word I forgot, Yes - I'm keeping a single TT515. Actually thinking of pairing it with a Yamaha DBR10 to add some of those smooth Yamaha mids and some extra headroom. Should be an incredible combination!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Cool glad I took it as you were keeping it. Yes that combination will be interesting - the DBR & the TT515.
Hope you see my other questions I posted this morning on your Evolve 30m comparison video. Sorry it's a lot of questions. So many options nowadays but I'd be curious to hear your answers and what you have to say.
Glad you're keeping the TT!
soundwise how do you think the qsc 8.2 would compare to the EV Evolve 30. Ignore the Mixer and bluetooth differences
I have both: 8.2 will be louder. Excellent high end clarity will be equal for both. Mids lacking on both, very similar sound signature. 8.2 Needs a sub. EV has better bass and in smaller gigs wouldn't need a sub. EV has wider dispersion. 120 degrees vs 105. EV doesn't need a speaker stand or pole. QSC 7 year warranty! I put the 8.2 over a Bose Sub1 or EV ELX12-sp sub. That combination far outperforms the EV30! If you don't need the extra headroom of the 8.2 the CP8 basically sounds the same at $500. Check out this video: ua-cam.com/video/xY_bw2Adn6c/v-deo.html
RCF doesnt have DSP/EQ on panel but definitely has all sorts of options if you use RDnet(ethernet connection) and the RDnet software.
You are right, I should have mentioned that. Personally, I have never used RDnet.
Awesome review, would you consider putting those qsc, on top of the ks118 subs????
That would be an incredible combination! I have the previous generation the dual 12" K Sub. It hits hard! Can't imagine how good the Ks118 would be?? As far as max volume the QSC K10.2 would equal the output of the 130dB+ Ks118. Some people like the K8.2 better because of the wider 105 degree dispersion.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz so i have 2 k12.2 right now, you think the RCF TT515-a would sound better than the qsc?
@@Eric_Morado Yes and No
If you A/B them side by side the RCF SQ is the next level, especially over 100dB where QSC's get harsh. The RCF stays crystal clean and you want to turn them up more! Kind of like a Studio Monitor at 110dB. In a live situation your audience will never know the difference, but you will! RCF has a better dispersion of 100 degrees vs 75 degrees for the 12.2.
I say no because at 132dB the K12.2 is almost twice as loud as the TT515. So comes down to do you want to spend an extra $1,000 per speaker for weight savings/form factor/sound quality? I would think the majority would go with the QSC.
Rcf is made to run with sub Qsc get harsh to me I have Rcf hd35a amazing keep up the videos 👍🏾
Agree! This speaker especially NEEDS a sub. Yes, the weakness of the QSC, at volumes over 100dB they get harsh. The RCF stays crystal clear and you want to turn it up more! Really have to watch my hearing because there is zero distortion at those levels.
@WWeiss-nv5vz with your experience, what should be done to the cp8 that I have, to make sure they don't sound harsh?
@@burhanuddin127 They only get harsh when pushed to their limit which is 110+dB! If you are playing anywhere near that limit you should be high passing to a sub. Using a mixer with mid control also helps to dial in your sound. Personally I love the crystal clean high end of QSC but always listen with a sub to fill in the missing low end.
@WWeiss-nv5vz thank you for the wisdom.
@@burhanuddin127 Appreciate your positive feedback.
Ist up here in Australia the RCF TT-515-A is over double the price of the qsc 8.2 also why go on about the hum? this is only a worry for studio monitors not live, you really should be comparing the TT to a higher spec'd /priced Speaker.
I think you missed the point of the video. The K8.2 equals 95% of the performance at a much lower price. People who like the form factor or willing to pay the extra $$$ for a slight improvement in clarity at high volume will be happy with the TT515. All other higher speced/priced speakers will be considerably larger and heavier. My focus on my channel is portable PA. The 27lbs K8.2 is the heaviest I carry.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz if male can’t lift 12kg they really need a roady there is no real advantage buying the RCF
Hi!!! Nice video! Is similar to FBT ventis 206A? Because i cant find any TT515… did you finally keep The speaker?
Specs look very similar! Wonder who copied who? Yes, I kept it! Incredible performance for the size. Besides my RCF TT10 which is $3,000, it is my best sounding PA speaker in my collection!
Ha Ha, New Genelec 8381A $70,000 single speaker, 330 lbs, only puts out 126dB - 22 lbs RCF TT515 wins 127db!
alot of people get everything wrong. there are speakers for different use. even on the high end, most people now days belive they need line array for everything and they are the best, just cause they see them in live massive concerts. 🤦♂️
Boss… by you experience and your equipment (you have a lot 😂) it’s posible mix Evolve30M with Everse8 in stereo? If yes it’s enough for 100ppl dance party?
Sorry… my english is not to good 😌
100 people dance maybe? Really need a subwoofer for that size crowd/purpose. I would run the Everse from a separate Aux out. It would be difficult to level match trying to do stereo left/right.
Hello!! Hey my friend im looking for a PA System (Sub + Top) that it can fit in a sedan car. Any recommendations? It’s only for djing. Thanks
Need to know: A/C only or battery, how many people do you play for? Two speakers and sub or column array? Price limit for total system?
Thanks for answer, 1 sub & 1 top,($1500 or less) I do prefer a budget PA system to start because I only have a sedan for now, in the future I will invest in a Van. 👍👍 thanks man!
Ac only, it can be column array or sub & top and 100 max people
@@djallenpr5143 EV ZLX-12P G2 $500 over Subwoofer EV ELX200-12SP $800 no mixer required, both speakers run off the excellent EV App. 100 people with one top will be pushing it close but doable until you can save up for a second speaker.
Other choices: Bose Sub1 subwoofer $900 Slightly less powerful than EV but smaller/lighter. Yamaha DBR12 131dB! Almost 2x louder than EV but needs a mixer-no APP/DSP $450.
Thanks for you’re time to research this and give me you’re best opinion. Three days ago I bought an EV Evolve 50m for $900 (excellent condition) so probably I’m going to resell it and get this system than you recommend me. Thanks my friend!!
Looking forward to putting the RCF TT-515 over the awesome Bose Sub2! RCF has a matching subwoofer, the TT808, but at $2,400 for a dual 8" sub NO THANKS! DJ's are saying they are using two 808's per side! Any day I would take the 18" QSC KS118 3,600 watts, 136dB, 35Hz low extension for $2,000! Bose Sub2 at $1,300 will probably equal the performance of the 808 and save you $1,100! Both have the same max SPL of 129dB but the Sub2 goes down to 37Hz vs 40Hz of the 808. 808 is lighter and slimmer and the High Pass matches up to the 515. www.rcf.it/en/products/product-detail/tt-808-as
I was just going to ask for an 808 comparison to the SUB2 from Bose. Thank you
Haven’t hooked the 515 to my sub 2 yet. One of the draws of the 808 for me was the size and that it powers the 515. I did a sound check with the set and a song that normally clipped my sub 2 didn’t clip the 808. I was SHOCKED
@@AaronStrawn interesting
@@AaronStrawn Are you keeping these? Talked to SVS and they agreed these are not to take the place of the Evox12 which are louder. These are probably going to be no louder than your J8's. You will get some more headroom high passed through the 808. Can't argue with the incredible clarity, but these are not made for reception speakers, unless we are talking under 150 people. I don't see these outperforming a pair of EV30s. As I said, my $500 QSC CP8 is louder! To make matters worse when you do play these near clipping they sound as harsh as a Mackie Thump Go:( I couldn't imagine trading my Pro32/Sub2 for these. In some ways by themselves they are kind of AM radio, Zero mids! A real one trick pony.
These are made for side fills/aux speakers. I lined out from my Pro32-Match made in heaven! I'm probably keeping the single 515 even though the price is crazy. For what it does, a little over 100dB or so, it adds incredible punch/clarity to a main speaker.
@@cduncan5690 I have never owned or even heard the Evox12. I am going strictly by what RCF Sales told me on the phone. I also saw Jason Jani's review and I think he is pushing these for the DJ market and they were not designed for that purpose. RCF agreed with me. I don't sell speakers for a living like he does. Buyer beware, do a lot more research before you run out and get ultra expensive speakers from the recommendation of a sales rep on UA-cam! I wouldn't show up with a pair of QSC CP8's for a wedding reception and the CP8's are louder than the 515's!
What sounds better with the Bose sub 2, the Bose S1 pro or the QSC?
At low volumes say 85dB and below/home listening levels/busking/backyard parties, the S1Pro sounds very impressive. The QSC CP8 which is the model down from the K8.2 I talked about in this video is in another league! Plus if you don't need internal battery and reverb, the CP8 is only $500. QSC is a pro speaker made for live gigging up to 150 people with a sub. S1Pro is rated for 50 people max. Check out this video: ua-cam.com/video/PLT-192t-Wc/v-deo.html
And the Winner is !!!!!!!!!! RCF
True if you have the $$$$!
whats the coverage of the QSC...?
105 degrees for K8.2 / RCF 100 degrees
QSC K8.2 went down to $750! TT515 $2,000!
Rcf 127dB
Qsc 128dB
One decibel is also different!
You're right every bit helps when running out of headroom!
I hope you use all these speakers you must have a nice wife, allowing you to spend that much on stuff. I get it all the microphones I have a war 700 in alone all the big sounds off I have my classical vocal lesson. I still enjoy it by the way, there's no comparison to a siege when RCf Zan a different level
That's the problem I don't use all of the speakers, but I hate to sell them at a 50% loss. My wife is nice but I usually have to wait until she leaves the house to have fun! I am a drummer who has played for over 30 years. My Ex wife said, "It's either me or the drums!" Long story short, I still have the beautiful 1968 Ludwig Gold Seal/Ringo set in blue sparkle!
Better comparison would be RCF hd12mk4 or 5 vs qsc K12.2
Correction art 912A
Those speakers are much heavier than the 27 Lbs K8.2 My videos focus on max performance with portable PA's. For me 27 Lbs is the heaviest top I use. I have a QSC KW122, 151 Lbs Stays at home, too heavy! The RCF TT515 at 22 Lbs has incredible performance for its weight/form factor-actually the best!
Im rcf fan all my sound is rcf but the 515 definitely needs sub stand alone im not sure what is good for
You are 100% right! The 515 NEEDS a sub, even an inexpensive one fills in the bottom end to give you the missing full range sound. I think the main application is fixed installations that need something tucked away like a restaurant or under a stage. At this price, it was not meant to be a DJ speaker.
@@WWeiss-nv5vzWhat would be a cheap subwoofer that works well with 515-a?
TT means something else in my language 😱🤣
Let's stay on the topic of speakers:-)
One seems louder than the other.
K8.2 does have more headroom.
Bring us more PLS
Thank you! More on the way ;)
I was right. RCF has a 3 year warranty. QSC 6 years!
if you register online after you buy RCF they give you 2 more years of warranty, making it 5 years total
Really, didn't know that! Thanks@@RuiPintoMusic
rcf has bigger hf driver thats why
Thanks, didn't realize that.
As a lover of music I will have to say the RCF is probably not worth the extra thousand dollars over the QSC. It definitely does look better but the QSC offers better low end performance at a fraction of the cost. You could get two QSC k8.2 for the price of one RCF. However if the RCF was competitively-priced, hands down i would choose RCF.
Agree- 100%!
as I said... people are so pathological, there are speakers for different use. just as cars, would you take sport car to an off road trip end up stuck in a trench and complaining how much extra you paid... 🤷♂️
@@ladjkaoz Would agree if for Pro use, using RD Net. Sonics/performance alone, hard to justify the $1,350 price difference.
@@WWeiss-nv5vzIm sure you would say the same if it was RCF VS Meyer or Lacustics...
Qsc sounds better to me
You can save a lot of money with QSC but when it gets loud over 100dB QSC gets harsh/RCF stays clean like a Hifi studio monitor!