Watched more than 1 vid showing that those coolers on the bottom actually increase the CPU temps, if it’s air cooled, while having little to no impact on the GPU temps.
If you exhaust the hot air fast enough from the top, bottom fans will make a difference to get a good flow instead of just sucking air in from any holes and GPU down below
In my FD torrent compact, I added one 180mm to bottom temps on my GPU dropped by 5-10°C and CPU almost didn't change found 2°C maximum increase on CPU temp.
@@akojakoj4174 exactly, I have a AIO cooler and the GPU heat goes through the rad on the side on its way up and out increasing CPU temps a bit, hence bigger top exhaust fans to comp it
If you have one of those cheap ATX cases that are almost the same with some slight changes on chassis cutouts and screw holes, and you don't really use HDD/Sata powered SSD's, you can remove the metal casing that's used to support those storage devices next the PSU, which frees up the entire bottom compartment, almost making a wind tunnel for your bottom front fan. I had 3 spares fans, so I put 2 on the bottom and my GPU ran cooler on idle/low temps where the fans are typically stopped or on low speeds because of fan start-stop tech/curves. However, on load situations they don't really seem to do anything besides helping push the hot air out and building static pressure inside the case, at least from my experience. So if you have a few extra fans, and all the other fan slots full, I'd put them on. If not, I don't really think it's a necessity but more of an option that you have.
It makes a lot more sense to me to have the fans on the top and bottom as he’s describing rather than on the sides, but then again that might not make that much of a difference. It depends on how small the space of air is inside. The smaller the empty space, the less it matters. For a bigger case it might make a difference
Actually, not necessarily. Depends on GPU Fan orientation. If you have a decent AiO, realistically your GPU is likely to be your hottest component. You want to orient your bottom fans to support your GPU fans. Keep in mind most GPUs don't just have intake OR exhaust fans. A 2 fan card will have one intake and one exhaust fan. Normally with the exhaust being located on the right.
@@bluexraxks3384 I personally have a 5700G in my rig. Not the most powerful but its powerful enough to play 95% of all games out right now so it's good enough for me. That fixed temp problems for me. It's a 65w chip that costs around $180 now and can play almost anything without being the bottleneck.
All gpu’s have “intake” fans if we have to pick that term. If you are exhausting air out from underneath the fan shroud that is working to pull in cool air you get a pocket of negative pressure along the bottom of the case. This will in return, raise temps but cause the pc to be more audible. Temps are the basis of all fans but they would all have to work harder in order to provide the same amount of air. Negative pressure = dust. Intake on the bottom of your pc supersedes them as exhaust every day of the week.
The hot air reduction in density is not as significant as people say it is, just ensure you aren’t suffocating your system by either putting exhaust beside the gpu or having more exhaust than intake.
@@truedarklander I updated from 3 intake and 4 exhaust to 5 intake and 4 exhaust but the dust is still an issue. I think is because I always have my window open and the wind is strong is this time of the year
Wow. And here I am kicking myself in the butt for just now getting ready to put an exhaust fan in my overclock'd I7 gaming PC that i built in 2010. It literally came in the mail today. Its not like i don't have cooling. My case is a Xclio Wind Tunnel and it has 2 massive fans that are 250mm each blowing directly on the motherboard, cpu and gpu all at once. Has lots of positive pressure.
Fans on the bottom can work easily as an exhaust as the air is dictated by the airflow, not the air temperature. However, if you use the bottom fans as intakes... Ensure there is n air filter. Otherwise you will be cementing your pc innards with a thick layer of dust in no time.
Hey Sach, I have a 4070ti, Ryzen 9 5900x and a 850 Platinum PSU, how futureproof is it and when I consider upgrading something, what should l upgrade. Your Vids help a lot♥️
When I built mine, I had this in mind because I have my tower on the ground on a piece of glass so isn’t that easily but I have an intake through the bottom, the front and the side and it always pushes out cool air out the back
For a very budget build is a r3 5300g and an rx 580 good for $700 if including accessories Side note: 16gb ddr4, b450 ds3h wifi mobo, 1tb nvme, 600w psu, and 1080p 165 hz monitor
I have 4 exhaust and 5 intake, including 2 bottom. The only thing I'm concerned about is possibly turbulence, but since none of my temps have been anywhere near high, even on an x670e with a 7800x3d and a 4090 so I haven't bothered to test it.
"Do not need this." Well, I mean, either bring back the side panel punchouts for fan mounting, or include bottom mounting. Direct airflow to the gpu used to definitely be a thing, and I wished it still was. Best way is still to partition off the gpu from the cpu and have fans and exhaust ports for both. But, just having a fan pointed at the gpu will work, too.
In very small form factor PCs its actually better to make them exhaust fans. Yes it will heat the ground but since there is not much space under the case the hot air will be dispersed to the sides and not rise back inside.
I have a case with holes for the bottom that lead directly to the surface the machine is on. No chambers at the bottom. Placing a fan there for intake and another at the back, above the gpu and adjacent to the cpu as exhaust immensely improved the temperatures of the setup, down 5°C to 10°C
But the new mainstream is a dual chamber with bottom and side fans ,I have 6 intakes, 4 exhaust, airflow is outstanding, temps are great, and the gpu is loving the bottom fans.
I have a Lian Li Lancool 216 and I've got 2 140mm fans mounted as intakes at the bottom, along with 2 140mm exhaust fans on the back, and 3 120mm intakes in the front, all of them being Noctua fans. I was thinking that could get as much airflow to keep things as cool as possible.
Hey Zach, can you build a gaming pc in a red and black color scheme? Also try to keep it under 800 bucks and try to deny any kind of rgb. Love your content, keep it up!
you should do a review of the rosewill prism s500 its a hidden case right now thier is almost no reviews of it online and yet its amazing the special thing is that the psu is at the top of the case
My GFs mastercool PC case has a bunch of holes everywhere in the top and bottom, and no fans. With the one fan we mounted to the case, we attached it to the bottom as exhaust because of the GPUs hot air coming out in that direction
But like having intake as bottom will just collide with gpu fans and create turbulence. Its better to just have a mesh down there so gpu heat has somewhere to go i guess
What's a good affordable case that most can use for a build? Finding compatibility for your motherboard, GPU, PSU etc. for your case sounds like a pain when you find a beautiful case
I have a lian li build and I have my bottom fans exhausting out and down and that was after doing all possible orientations all of my fans. So top fans pull through my rad, bottom fans and side fans exhaust. And the bottom fans on low speed exhausting kept my GPU temps way down.
Hey Zach, I've been wanting to buy a gaming PC for a while now and I'm not sure what to look for in a PC and if I should get it pre-built from your website or build my own.
Hi Zach, is it worth it spending a bit more money on a better gpu or cpu or get a better monitor for around the same price. Just as a general rule of thumb
Hey man, I've been watching your videos a lot and you suggested the ryzen 5 3600 for a lot of the budget performance builds, do you think it's worth it to shift from Intel i5 9400 to the 3600?
Intake, yes. Reason, no. As exhausted, the hot air will have very little effect on your intake air temp. The problem is negative pressure, causing dust to build up by pulling dusty air from the cracks.
Newbie here I have a gtx1060 3gb and a i5-3550s as you could imagine it doesn’t hold up well (unless I’m missing some setting or something) what’s the best possible upgrades without swapping motherboard?
Which one better Follow the instruction of case air flow(some case have recommendation on how the air flow in their website) or put it with either 1or 2 intake and the rest(top and back) exhaust Because my case which is venomrx daemon continental s5 suggest that all fan become exhaust (in their official website)
Then there's the people who put their cases on the floor for those bottom mount fans so suck up all the gooch dust. Best to take fan advice from the greatest technician who ever lived.
I have a sky two case, and using bottom intakes absolutely DOES make a difference. I could barely run my my gpu at stock settings without them, let alone overclock it.
@@Nb_2089 How many gigabytes of Vram should it be? I don't wanna bottleneck my system. My 1650 has 4gb of Vram rn and i am running 1080p and mostly doom eternal rn
@@Dark_skeleton2004 Vram is not what causes bottleneck. It’s more complicated than that, but these 3 gpus is just about right for your cpu, or in other words these gpus are the best your cpu can do. Also they are perfect for 1080p
You actually need em to blow not in ur pc but put on the bottom fans bc dirt dust and dog hair will easily come thru the bottom and get ur pc all dirty quicker
Thats just going to suck in dirt The closer to the ground the worse the dirt Its good practise to have positive pressure in case exactly to push dirt out especially near the ground
I am thinking about buying a used PC for $170. It has an i7 3770k, a 970 and 16 gb of DDR3 RAM. Should I buy it? Also, there is the risk of it breaking in shipping.
Hey Zach day 2 of asking, I want to know what motherboard to get for my ryzen 5 5600x There are MBs which cost double of the cheaper ones, can you guide me what all features are required and what is the bare minimum requirements? Please 😢
"Best" cpu? Can use any CPU from the past couple of years to make the 4070 super pop. You ought to really name a price you are willing to spend. If you have a slightly older system, a 5800x3d will ride the 4070 super with ease. IF you have AM5 system even a 7600x can ride it well. But, if you want the BEST, as in the best processors for gaming, then you'd want the 7800x3D or the i7-13700k. But, really, as long as it is a newer CPU (Last 4, or 5, years or so) you should be fine regardless.
The H6 flow is too good
I have an X3 mesh. amazing budget case
yeah both h5 flow and h6 flow! not as big as h7 flow or H9 flow, yet amazing looks
I got the h9 flow, using all 10 fans each at 1800rpm, highest temp I got was 86 degrees Celsius while running 2 games. Got a 3070 and a ryzen 5 5600x
kinda overkill case but sure
@@chrispearson5844
edit: 86? goddamn thats quite very hot
where is the power supply
Watched more than 1 vid showing that those coolers on the bottom actually increase the CPU temps, if it’s air cooled, while having little to no impact on the GPU temps.
If you exhaust the hot air fast enough from the top, bottom fans will make a difference to get a good flow instead of just sucking air in from any holes and GPU down below
In my FD torrent compact, I added one 180mm to bottom temps on my GPU dropped by 5-10°C and CPU almost didn't change found 2°C maximum increase on CPU temp.
@@akojakoj4174 exactly, I have a AIO cooler and the GPU heat goes through the rad on the side on its way up and out increasing CPU temps a bit, hence bigger top exhaust fans to comp it
Bottom fans just help with positive pressure.
Make your CPU cooler vent vertically too, push that air right into a fan pulling hot air out.
PC case fans keeping you big as hell
i dont see you in the server as muh as the comments even tho im banned
@@RT_PLAYS
Bro got banned 😖
I only appear in the server like once a week, lol
yeah i got falsely accused of promoting sUici de so yeah but still hope ya doin well
can a rx6600 survive without case fans?
@@motorista_ramonat the beginning, yeah. After a while, maybe not. And your CPU temp is gonna go 📈📈📈📈📈
If you have one of those cheap ATX cases that are almost the same with some slight changes on chassis cutouts and screw holes, and you don't really use HDD/Sata powered SSD's, you can remove the metal casing that's used to support those storage devices next the PSU, which frees up the entire bottom compartment, almost making a wind tunnel for your bottom front fan.
I had 3 spares fans, so I put 2 on the bottom and my GPU ran cooler on idle/low temps where the fans are typically stopped or on low speeds because of fan start-stop tech/curves.
However, on load situations they don't really seem to do anything besides helping push the hot air out and building static pressure inside the case, at least from my experience. So if you have a few extra fans, and all the other fan slots full, I'd put them on. If not, I don't really think it's a necessity but more of an option that you have.
It makes a lot more sense to me to have the fans on the top and bottom as he’s describing rather than on the sides, but then again that might not make that much of a difference. It depends on how small the space of air is inside. The smaller the empty space, the less it matters. For a bigger case it might make a difference
Actually, not necessarily. Depends on GPU Fan orientation. If you have a decent AiO, realistically your GPU is likely to be your hottest component. You want to orient your bottom fans to support your GPU fans.
Keep in mind most GPUs don't just have intake OR exhaust fans. A 2 fan card will have one intake and one exhaust fan. Normally with the exhaust being located on the right.
Are you sure I feel like the cpu would be the hottest component well my cpu always runs hotter than my gpu.
I do have a 4080 so the cooling is amazing so I guess that’s why. But most of the time I seen people with higher cpu temps then gpu temps overall.
@@bluexraxks3384 I personally have a 5700G in my rig. Not the most powerful but its powerful enough to play 95% of all games out right now so it's good enough for me.
That fixed temp problems for me. It's a 65w chip that costs around $180 now and can play almost anything without being the bottleneck.
All gpu’s have “intake” fans if we have to pick that term. If you are exhausting air out from underneath the fan shroud that is working to pull in cool air you get a pocket of negative pressure along the bottom of the case. This will in return, raise temps but cause the pc to be more audible. Temps are the basis of all fans but they would all have to work harder in order to provide the same amount of air. Negative pressure = dust. Intake on the bottom of your pc supersedes them as exhaust every day of the week.
@@JMark4 my graphics card doesn't. One pulls in air from the bottom and the other exhausts it.
Was looking for the answer on this question i had. Thanksgiving you!!!
The hot air reduction in density is not as significant as people say it is, just ensure you aren’t suffocating your system by either putting exhaust beside the gpu or having more exhaust than intake.
I have 3 intake and 4 exhaust is that bad?
@@rambo70141 shouldnt be that bad, especially if you arent at that high of an altitude
@@rambo70141negative pressure's main issue is dust. Positive pressure helps with keeping dust out
@@truedarklander I updated from 3 intake and 4 exhaust to 5 intake and 4 exhaust but the dust is still an issue. I think is because I always have my window open and the wind is strong is this time of the year
I love my lian li dynamic evo rgb. best case I have bought and seen on the market!!!
Wow. And here I am kicking myself in the butt for just now getting ready to put an exhaust fan in my overclock'd I7 gaming PC that i built in 2010. It literally came in the mail today. Its not like i don't have cooling. My case is a Xclio Wind Tunnel and it has 2 massive fans that are 250mm each blowing directly on the motherboard, cpu and gpu all at once. Has lots of positive pressure.
*dust has joined the chad*
Ever heard of a dust filter? The mesh screen at the bottom slides out so you can clean it
@@cosmicgrim7963 I guess
Can you make a build with a 7800x3d and 7900xtx
H5 Flow has the one diagonal on the bottom
Fans on the bottom can work easily as an exhaust as the air is dictated by the airflow, not the air temperature. However, if you use the bottom fans as intakes... Ensure there is n air filter. Otherwise you will be cementing your pc innards with a thick layer of dust in no time.
Hey Sach, I have a 4070ti, Ryzen 9 5900x and a 850 Platinum PSU, how futureproof is it and when I consider upgrading something, what should l upgrade. Your Vids help a lot♥️
Just sold InWin101, awesome cooling and looks, 3x bottom ARGB Reverse infinity mirror fans
When I built mine, I had this in mind because I have my tower on the ground on a piece of glass so isn’t that easily but I have an intake through the bottom, the front and the side and it always pushes out cool air out the back
My case has bottom fans and I love it 😊
For a very budget build is a r3 5300g and an rx 580 good for $700 if including accessories
Side note: 16gb ddr4, b450 ds3h wifi mobo, 1tb nvme, 600w psu, and 1080p 165 hz monitor
I in every single build out bottom fans it’s for the best
I wish I could afford a pc like a potato pc I wish but I can’t 😢😢 but hopefully u can keep posting content so I can just dream about it
My H5 has one angled in bottom (in the front), aimed 45 degrees at the out let fan, work great. Get all the warm air of the GPU.
NR200P max exhaust top and bottom. It pulls the air into the vented side panels and temps are better.
I have 4 exhaust and 5 intake, including 2 bottom. The only thing I'm concerned about is possibly turbulence, but since none of my temps have been anywhere near high, even on an x670e with a 7800x3d and a 4090 so I haven't bothered to test it.
"Do not need this." Well, I mean, either bring back the side panel punchouts for fan mounting, or include bottom mounting. Direct airflow to the gpu used to definitely be a thing, and I wished it still was. Best way is still to partition off the gpu from the cpu and have fans and exhaust ports for both. But, just having a fan pointed at the gpu will work, too.
In very small form factor PCs its actually better to make them exhaust fans. Yes it will heat the ground but since there is not much space under the case the hot air will be dispersed to the sides and not rise back inside.
Love the content❤
Yup I got a hyte Y40 and it’s got one intake fan by the psu
I have a case with holes for the bottom that lead directly to the surface the machine is on. No chambers at the bottom.
Placing a fan there for intake and another at the back, above the gpu and adjacent to the cpu as exhaust immensely improved the temperatures of the setup, down 5°C to 10°C
I have your common pc case... I got two bottom fans lol. I just wanted more rgb xD
Hot air, hot air returns and hot air rises are the best
If you remember guy named RBN hardware well… he is back 😢
But the new mainstream is a dual chamber with bottom and side fans ,I have 6 intakes, 4 exhaust, airflow is outstanding, temps are great, and the gpu is loving the bottom fans.
Heat doesn’t rise if fans are blowing down
so does all the dust
can u talk about some pc cases ( budget freindly ) tht have their glass panel on the right side :)
I have a Lian Li Lancool 216 and I've got 2 140mm fans mounted as intakes at the bottom, along with 2 140mm exhaust fans on the back, and 3 120mm intakes in the front, all of them being Noctua fans. I was thinking that could get as much airflow to keep things as cool as possible.
Got 10 corsair LL 120 fans in my lian li XL. Bottom 3 are intake and the rest are all exhaust
It’s good for aesthetics
Hey Zach, can you build a gaming pc in a red and black color scheme? Also try to keep it under 800 bucks and try to deny any kind of rgb. Love your content, keep it up!
RBNhardware is back
i would use the bottom ones as exhaust to make sure it doesn't pick up dust or just not placing them.
@jacekmakes yeah... and that's why you totally shouldn't clean your PC like once or twice a year.
@jacekmakes not all PCS are on desks mine sadly sits on the ground.
Why you clean it so often?
NR200, bottom fans in, top fans in, nice and simple.
Meanwhile my hp pavilion, that doesn’t even have anywhere to put a fan but the back of the case as an exhaust:
The H6 is fire, i have it
you should do a review of the rosewill prism s500 its a hidden case right now thier is almost no reviews of it online and yet its amazing the special thing is that the psu is at the top of the case
"..Case has feet to raise it above the table..." My Rig would obliterate any table...
My GFs mastercool PC case has a bunch of holes everywhere in the top and bottom, and no fans. With the one fan we mounted to the case, we attached it to the bottom as exhaust because of the GPUs hot air coming out in that direction
But like having intake as bottom will just collide with gpu fans and create turbulence. Its better to just have a mesh down there so gpu heat has somewhere to go i guess
I'm thinking of getting the H6 flow case.
What's a good affordable case that most can use for a build? Finding compatibility for your motherboard, GPU, PSU etc. for your case sounds like a pain when you find a beautiful case
I have a lian li build and I have my bottom fans exhausting out and down and that was after doing all possible orientations all of my fans. So top fans pull through my rad, bottom fans and side fans exhaust. And the bottom fans on low speed exhausting kept my GPU temps way down.
Lian li reverse blade 👍
Good video! Tnx
Hey Zach, I've been wanting to buy a gaming PC for a while now and I'm not sure what to look for in a PC and if I should get it pre-built from your website or build my own.
I don't have top fans so I put bottom fans as exhaust even tho I know it's gonna bounce back, I'd rather use rear fans as intake
That's nice and all BUT should I put my totodile plush in my pc it has enough space
Hi Zach, is it worth it spending a bit more money on a better gpu or cpu or get a better monitor for around the same price. Just as a general rule of thumb
Montech King 95 pro for the win
Can you please make a Video about the SilverStone SST-RL08BR-RGB its a case with the Glas on the other side and its micro atx
Hey man, I've been watching your videos a lot and you suggested the ryzen 5 3600 for a lot of the budget performance builds, do you think it's worth it to shift from Intel i5 9400 to the 3600?
Do you think I could reuse a dell dimension 2400 and use the case to put PC parts in?
Intake, yes. Reason, no. As exhausted, the hot air will have very little effect on your intake air temp. The problem is negative pressure, causing dust to build up by pulling dusty air from the cracks.
Got it, I'll put exhaust fans on the bottom and keep my PC upside down
Newbie here I have a gtx1060 3gb and a i5-3550s as you could imagine it doesn’t hold up well (unless I’m missing some setting or something) what’s the best possible upgrades without swapping motherboard?
Laptop users: yeah.
what’s a good line of parts for $1200-1500?
Which one better
Follow the instruction of case air flow(some case have recommendation on how the air flow in their website) or put it with either 1or 2 intake and the rest(top and back) exhaust
Because my case which is venomrx daemon continental s5 suggest that all fan become exhaust (in their official website)
bottom fans in h6 flow increase temps 3-5 degrees, no matter the orientation
Dust falls, so wont this make you intake more dust?
For a gaming PC how should my fans be oriented in a HYTE H60
Then there's the people who put their cases on the floor for those bottom mount fans so suck up all the gooch dust. Best to take fan advice from the greatest technician who ever lived.
I have a sky two case, and using bottom intakes absolutely DOES make a difference. I could barely run my my gpu at stock settings without them, let alone overclock it.
In a lot of case (es)😂
that guy has a cool name
When you’re flipping PCs, do you buy Windows on them for your customers, or you just give them the fresh build??
Is a 3070ti and 12400F a good combo for fortnite? Let me know plz i am building my first pc.
What orientation?
1. Take your PC
2. Turn it upsite down
3. Place it back
Will one exhaust fan be enough? How many do you need? Especially for a big hot system?
HOLY SHIT WAS THAT A GTX 1660? I used to use that before i got a rtx 4070 at the absolute worst time (like a week before 4070 super announcement)
I use the montech sky 2 and I don’t use the bottom fan I prefer it without it👍
Love the content man, i do have a question. I have a ryzen 5 4500 and a 1650 in my system, what gpu should i upgrade to??
RTX 3060 or RX 6600xt or RX 6650xt
@@Nb_2089 How many gigabytes of Vram should it be? I don't wanna bottleneck my system. My 1650 has 4gb of Vram rn and i am running 1080p and mostly doom eternal rn
@@Dark_skeleton2004
Vram is not what causes bottleneck. It’s more complicated than that, but these 3 gpus is just about right for your cpu, or in other words these gpus are the best your cpu can do. Also they are perfect for 1080p
@@Nb_2089 Alright, i appreciate the advice
I think if ppl use front 3 top 3 and back 1 the most
I have a HDD on the front on the bottom that need a fan to cool, the case suggests aiming down so maybe follow your case instructions.
You actually need em to blow not in ur pc but put on the bottom fans bc dirt dust and dog hair will easily come thru the bottom and get ur pc all dirty quicker
Thats just going to suck in dirt
The closer to the ground the worse the dirt
Its good practise to have positive pressure in case exactly to push dirt out especially near the ground
Front and bottom intake, back and top exhaust
what are good starter pcs that will run games like fortnite, gta 5 and more
For mounted bottom fans, are reverse blade versions better towards aesthetics? building a pc and been wondering for a while
Zach I want to buy a 4060TI, should the manufacturer brand matter?
I am thinking about buying a used PC for $170. It has an i7 3770k, a 970 and 16 gb of DDR3 RAM. Should I buy it? Also, there is the risk of it breaking in shipping.
Will the Ryzen 5 5600x + rtx 4060 be good for Fortnite?
hey Zach, what are your recommendations for low profile cases?
Hey Zach day 2 of asking,
I want to know what motherboard to get for my ryzen 5 5600x
There are MBs which cost double of the cheaper ones, can you guide me what all features are required and what is the bare minimum requirements? Please 😢
Wouldn't those bottom fans suck up more dust from the desk? Or am I completely wrong?
hey zach, can you make a $800 pc for productivity, where the cpu is utilized more than the gpu?
Can you compince my parents to get a nintendo switch oled #3
That rog sticker no one noticed 💀💀💀
Which GPU should I pick for my new gaming pc rtx3060 or rtx3070
What is the best CPU to pair with the Nvidia RTX 4070 super?
"Best" cpu? Can use any CPU from the past couple of years to make the 4070 super pop. You ought to really name a price you are willing to spend.
If you have a slightly older system, a 5800x3d will ride the 4070 super with ease. IF you have AM5 system even a 7600x can ride it well. But, if you want the BEST, as in the best processors for gaming, then you'd want the 7800x3D or the i7-13700k. But, really, as long as it is a newer CPU (Last 4, or 5, years or so) you should be fine regardless.
"Would you build a PC for 1 million dollars 🎅🎅🎅🦀💸"
“The computer was dead it just didn’t know it yet”
Sure, give me a million dollars and I will build a pc. Now what to do with the remaining $995,000 🤔
those little feet aren't a coincidence. I dare you to find a 3dfx Voodoo3 3500 TV.