Yeah, after learning to throw nose down with my TechDisc I don’t think grip matters as much either. Nor do I think that pouring the coffee as is helpful for people to focus on. It matters some, but can’t fix the root issues of nose angle.
Nose down is my biggest issue. Even with my techdisc, I've been struggling with how to keep my disc nose down. I've tried a lot of grips but I think it's my swing. I start about belly button level and pull leading with the elbow until the elbow can't go forward anymore, which pops my forearm forward and slings the disc. Maybe I need to revisit that
Have you tried thinking about throwing the back of the disc? If the disc is not properly rotating out of your hand and the back of the disc being thrown ( the angle that is nose down) you will throw nose up.
Try pronating your forearm as you reach back (suitcase carry some call it) as the Disc Golf Neil does above, that will give you a negative nose angle. combine that with the "turn the key" movement and you will immediately see a negative nose angle. Start with light throwing and work up only as quickly as you can keep good form.
@@jonathanknopp363 yeah so I can get nose down with that, but the variance of nose down is so wild that it doesn’t always work. I also tend to throw into the ground. I just need practice with it
@@gyronation9303 throwing into the ground, is often an indication of you doing it correct. When you struggle with nose up, you naturally throw downwards. So you actually have to learn how to throw the disc upwards! Seems weird, but it will likely feel totally different than your old throw, where you threw down with a positive nose angle.
No but it kinda feels like it gives you more leverage to turn the key or something. Take a look at this throw as an example of the opposite of a low reach back at 538 time ua-cam.com/video/IFYiGSv13JY/v-deo.htmlsi=gaI_A6vOl0KL6RTu
In my opinion, after fixing my nose angle with my tech disc, the low to high pull through is useful for throwing ata positive launch angle instead of the negative launch angle most nose-up players throw. The biggest factor in getting the nose angle down is pronating the forearm when reaching back (so that someone standing directly in front of you can see the underside of the disc. Some call this a suitcase carry. It gets your elbow up and out, allowing the gyroscopic procession to cause a negative nose angle naturally. If you try the low to high reachback combined with this suitcase carry and "turn the key" drill you will definitely fox nose angle. You just need to start with doing this while throwing light and only increase speed as you are able to replicate the correct form.
Yeah, after learning to throw nose down with my TechDisc I don’t think grip matters as much either. Nor do I think that pouring the coffee as is helpful for people to focus on. It matters some, but can’t fix the root issues of nose angle.
Nose down is my biggest issue. Even with my techdisc, I've been struggling with how to keep my disc nose down. I've tried a lot of grips but I think it's my swing. I start about belly button level and pull leading with the elbow until the elbow can't go forward anymore, which pops my forearm forward and slings the disc. Maybe I need to revisit that
Have you tried thinking about throwing the back of the disc? If the disc is not properly rotating out of your hand and the back of the disc being thrown ( the angle that is nose down) you will throw nose up.
Try pronating your forearm as you reach back (suitcase carry some call it) as the Disc Golf Neil does above, that will give you a negative nose angle. combine that with the "turn the key" movement and you will immediately see a negative nose angle. Start with light throwing and work up only as quickly as you can keep good form.
@@jonathanknopp363 yeah so I can get nose down with that, but the variance of nose down is so wild that it doesn’t always work. I also tend to throw into the ground. I just need practice with it
@@gyronation9303 throwing into the ground, is often an indication of you doing it correct. When you struggle with nose up, you naturally throw downwards. So you actually have to learn how to throw the disc upwards! Seems weird, but it will likely feel totally different than your old throw, where you threw down with a positive nose angle.
@@jonathanknopp363 I'll keep that in mind and experiment with it
Just to clarify is low to high pull through/release the bigger difference in nose down flight?
No but it kinda feels like it gives you more leverage to turn the key or something.
Take a look at this throw as an example of the opposite of a low reach back at 538 time ua-cam.com/video/IFYiGSv13JY/v-deo.htmlsi=gaI_A6vOl0KL6RTu
In my opinion, after fixing my nose angle with my tech disc, the low to high pull through is useful for throwing ata positive launch angle instead of the negative launch angle most nose-up players throw. The biggest factor in getting the nose angle down is pronating the forearm when reaching back (so that someone standing directly in front of you can see the underside of the disc. Some call this a suitcase carry. It gets your elbow up and out, allowing the gyroscopic procession to cause a negative nose angle naturally. If you try the low to high reachback combined with this suitcase carry and "turn the key" drill you will definitely fox nose angle. You just need to start with doing this while throwing light and only increase speed as you are able to replicate the correct form.