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Yeah, preset it ideally, and then stretch it even deeper on reachback. Presetting it will help build up the muscle memory and if you forget to deepen it more on the reachback then at least you still have some of it there. Plus, presetting it will make it easier to accidentally horizontally collapse your shoulder when reaching back for the people who do that because of not coiling and instead collapse their arm across their chest when reaching backwards, but because of that wall drill I showed, scapular protraction creates a natural resistance to horizontal collapse, so it might help people feel if they are about to horizontally collapse on the reachback because they will feel it's harder to collapse if they were maintaining protraction.

It's called a hang drum (hand pan is similar), it's just a random copyright free one I found here: ua-cam.com/video/TbY1xyJfNfo/v-deo.htmlsi=ErPO__YNKFxL6249 You'll probably like this: open.spotify.com/album/7vko8ub7YUJDT8GjRzdEGz?si=U6lsojVPQfe9ypHtfaK8Bg

@@birdseyevue lets goo!

let's get some nick krush under boob bomber throws 🤣

@ hahaha I like the idea I’ll have to try and remember to set the phone up below 🤙

@@joebialas mostly just watching a bunch of the info that’s out there and reading forums, plus watching pros and then testing everything I’ve encountered with the tech disc. The kuoksa motion capture is from coach chris Taylor.

Keep it up, for the sake of my game. Thanks!

Neil, glad you are mulling over many obscure ideas. 👏👏 One note, as I’ve mentioned in the past, my research shows that the scapular retraction (at least back to neutral) happens almost instantaneously in the first few milliseconds of the pull. The retraction leads, and seems to initiate, torso rotation in better players. Space in PP is not nearly as important as the timing of the upper arm horizontal abduction. If your arm is leading the rotation, collapse and a tight PP space is non-existent as long as you can maintain a somewhat straight line of force. On another quick suggestion, it is a courteous idea to acknowledge others when using Internet content. No big deal, just a FWIW.

@ didn’t intentionally leave your IG out of frame, was just trying to zoom in on the horrible small IG view. Go check out his IG people. Do you post the vids in full size anywhere I can reference or have the research you referenced posted anywhere? Does your research show if Wiggins is protracted, neutral, or retracted here: i.imgur.com/Og2nw6F.jpeg Seems like there’s a lot more retraction ROM available from that position seeing how much more you can see his shoulder blades come together during the follow through: instagram.com/tv/CpgOg3KJmI8/?igsh=bWZ0aDJoMGdsaXR6

i added 20mph and 700rpm on a tech disc with the info from his last vid on the shoulder. my aim needs work again, but it's consistent. i just need to reprogram the release point.

@@gyronation9303 thanks!!

@@AxisDiscPowers yeah I’ve noticed that too

@@edgarpung5843 do you grip them differently? On mids and putters having the middle two fingers partially touching the flight plate can help you get more leverage to turn the key. Can also try experimenting with starting with a briefcase during setup, turning it out of briefcase during reachback, then back into briefcase into pocket, then out again. It might be easier that way to feel a rhythm and exaggerate the motion with a more prominent change in direction as you are more actively moving into a briefcase into pocket.

@ yes, i actually do just that put my two middle fingers on the plate. But I’m also slowing down to have more focus on trying to do this and I think that’s really messing with me. I do typically briefcase in the backswing and ‘flip’ it pre power pocket… I think

@ more actively internally rotating on the way into the pocket will help not flip it too early and then create a more dramatic flip after that

@@chrysr7773 it’s more of a defining mechanics and showing some examples of how to feel certain things individually rather than a series of absolute beginner drills. However, I don’t think the amateurs who wreck their coil and uncoil are usually doing this from side bend, I think it’s more because they lean backwards then topple forwards over their brace which is not side bend as I explained in the vid. Part of coiling IS turning your butt (to some degree) towards the target, but it’s doing it WITHOUT turning the feet backward which is what makes rear hip coiling instead of just turning feet backwards and running backwards. It sounds like your issues are more with people running up backwards and leaning away from the target then toppling forward, which is not what I am recommending, and I specifically mentioned to not do in the video and show how side bending actually helps avoid. I also said that side bend normally happens automatically when you coil for real, and you normally don’t have to think about it, but since this is a video about defining mechanics, I want to define each of the main mechanics of coiling.

@@chrysr7773 also, plenty of pros have outdated beliefs they teach, such as squish the bug or pour the coffee for nose down. Most pros who coach just coach on the side and aren’t focused on becoming pro at coaching and only give the same basic advice you can get anywhere. I went to two different pros for coaching just to see and it would be been much better to have gone to a dedicated coach. Both of them didn’t have anything beyond regurgitating the basics to tell me.

@@dwarflord2k3 xero scrambler mid waterproof The ones that go up higher are the mids. Very good, I tried the popular vivobarefoot and these feel more comfortable to me and similar durability. Almost never slip either, Michelin rubber!

@@Andreas12161 it’s really just a matter of doing so many reps that it starts to feel like you’re not really doing it anymore. I liked overthrows recent video where he’s teaching it to somebody who normally throws nose up. And then, like I show in this video, it’s easier to time it and exaggerate on slower throws. You can also use a Pickleball paddle and swing it like disc golf backhand form, but hold the paddle so that when you swing it, it would be sideways and therefore will slice through the air without whooshing and then you practice the arm rotation motion, while swinging to turn the paddle face so that it will woosh at the hit. I plan to make a short video showing this as a drill. I also love using a Pickleball paddle for warming up in general and practicing some swings with that woosh feedback. Stringed rackets won’t woosh as easily because of the gaps between the strings, letting the air through.

@ Hi Neil, yes, please go ahead snd produce that practising video. Would love to watch it. I‘ll try your recommendation for warming up. Thank you.

@@gyronation9303 appreciate it!

@@chadrobinson7234 you can see the flight shape to tell the difference in distance. The ones that go shorter with good speed and good nose angle are usually too low launch angle or turned too much or too little.

@@the-tee-less-traveled-discgolf it’s just begun

yep, good eye!

Hmm, what's an example of plastics to compare?

@disc-golf-neil ill have to run to my disc store and get disc names for you. I was holding a disc in my hand with my fingers and thumb in the center of the disc and I could move the plastic up and down and others I could not...both were drivers and fairway drivers.

@@nealrasmussen4832 haha yes. It’s a novelty mini course tho so all short throws or even jump putt off some tees. It’s pretty fun and worth the risk imo, or just use some secondary discs.

@disc-golf-neil could zip tie about five rubber machete on top of basket... Insensitive!

@@nealrasmussen4832 lmao

@@marcelmattsson1010 I’m pretty arm focused but the reason it works for me is because I worked on building up the other stuff too to be in good positions. And when I think “use the arm to throw harder” my body feels that uncoiling more powerfully is how to do that which means I need a strong coil. And to uncoil more powerfully, that will make me want to brace more strongly so that I have a strong base to not fall apart while trying to uncoil powerfully. But all of that will be ruined with bad timing, but it’s hard to have simple thoughts for everything to time up well, but trying to develop feeling a rhythm in the runup and throw helps with that. I’ve had many 63 mph throws that felt as effortful as my max 69 mph throws because of timing. If you’ve never thrown a heavier object before, it can help to feel how important the lower body is to support the arm. Just gotta be careful and go slow to not hurt yourself.

Awesome! I talk a bit more about it in this video if you haven't seen it: ua-cam.com/video/Kf7z8FZBIu8/v-deo.html

That's awesome, good explanation. This is an under discussed topic in BH, so in FH, if there is an analog it's probably even harder to come by. I haven't thought it or tested enough with FH, but will make a vid on it if I find an analog. This made me curious if the role of scapular protraction is already documented in baseball pitching. I asked chat gpt if it plays a role when throwing a baseball 'by your side' (hoping it would be more similar to FH in dg at your side) and it listed lots of benefits. I think people who FH trying to tuck the elbow close to the body probably wouldn't use that much, but maybe people who FH with the elbow further away from the body would. For example, Ryan Sheldon has his elbow pretty far away from the body on a crush, looks like he's trying to take full advantage of the length of his arm kinda, which scapular protraction should help with. Can't really through the shirt when / how much scapular protraction is used but take a look at the elbow distance at the timestamp: ua-cam.com/video/cHpb3CHDiZ0/v-deo.html Mind as well try scapular protraction on FH with the tech disc first before looking for any other analog, haha.