TechYesCity made a video about dying ryzen 5 3600 cpu's ,and he concluded that probably the main cause of this is the usage of the stock cooler . I suggest watching his video . Name of the video : This is Why Ryzen 5 3600s Are FAILING!
I don't want to see anything indicating Nvidia is a viable alternative now. Their power connectors still have problems, you can see it in the igorslab update. Intel has improved their drivers a lot, so you shall compare AMD with Intel next time instead of Nvidia, who are using their monopolistic power within the graphics card market badly and whose products are overpriced and inclined to fail within a short time.
Love this friendly competition between PC builders as it provides more template, guide and options especially for the lower end build. Kudos to Zach as well for taking the challenge and he even posted and promoting Zach's video and page for others to see.
I enjoy Elijah's Lab's content, so it's a bummer to see the unfair comparison in builds. However, I think your video here has value in that you critiqued your own channel earnestly, explained your channels value proposition in how it differs from Elijah's, and that you continue to welcome challenges and critiques. Solid video!
Ummm, no. What you'll actually end up with is a never-ending bangs per buck contest. Today's ultimate budget pc build will be superceded within a month.
Tough fight. I personally preferred the black $450 PC for 2 reasons: 1. I prefer the glass front panel 🤤 and 2. It leaves $50 room for cooler and/or price diffs on parts🤑. Thanks again Zack ! All humble budget builders hail your efforts. (And Elijah is cool as well, no issue w/ him)
@@ZachsTechTurf That would be super cool but you will need to set the rules because you aren't playing on the same one as of now. Trying to make the setting of the benchmark identital would aslo be great 😅😂
@@ZachsTechTurf I just found your channel (first video) but I think it would be cool if both of you (and maybe more yts) did a tech trivia video. get someone you know and make them the host of the game show.would be a great long video and you can do two rounds (each post 1 round)
I really like how you started this out as some kind of antagonistic rivalry but then turned it into honest boosting for each other. The lore is why I'm here.
this would be a fire series if you guys take keep those PCs and do incremental upgrades with challenges each time like $150 upgrade video, upgrading them with only aliexpress stuff, amazon choice only upgrade, stuff like that. i think seeing the pc evolve throughout the episodes could add a cool dimension to the whole thing
Always love to see some friendly competition! I'm a loyal subscriber of both channels and was a bit worried after the intro, but I love both the builds
I love the content of both of y'all and I am happy to see this is a friendly competition. I like both of the builds (yours performs better tho). I hope you guys actually plan a competition together in the future ❤
i just built my first pc with the help of a friend of mine and its been amazing! total cost is around 580 euro monitor and keyboard included, and the tower itself costs about 380 euro. however i got quite lucky because i got the gpu (1660 Ti) used from a friend of mine for 100 euro. the full specs are: GPU: Inno3D GTX 1660 Ti (100€) CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 (74€) Ram: GSkill 16GB DDR4 3200Mhz (37€) MB: MSI B450-A Pro Max (58€) SSD: Crucial BX500 500GB Sata III (37€) PSU: CoolerMaster Elite NEX 500 500W 80 plus standard (31€) Case: Aerocool cylon (45€) Monitor: LG ULTRAGEAR 24GN60R-B 144hz 1080p 24" (156€) Keyboard: Redragon K617 Fizz 60% (40€)
One of the reasons why Elijah used a 3060, instead of some other better valued Amd cards was because for his goal (selling PCs on Facebook) Nvidia gpus tend to sell a lot better. Great videos from both of y’all, I think you both put out a pretty similar rig in the end. If Elijah used the $125 5700xt, he’d also be sitting at around $450.
@@brandontrost8888 Zach's is? I mean for a flip Elijah would probably have any easier time selling if he leveraged his r7 and RTX branding vs Zach's PC. But Zach's PC for the most part outperformed Elijah for less. Both are very good for the price and both look awesome. L take here.
@@brandontrost8888 No , the r7 2700x can't beat the r5 3600 in gaming. The 3060 vs 5700xt is roughly equal the difference is the pricing for both. Zach wins in gaming here for 50 usd cheaper
It is true that a rtx 3060 will sell easier not only because it's Nvidia, also it's got 12gb vram. Everyone has heard how cards like the 3070 are throttling because they only have 8gb vram and having to drop below 1080p ultra for some games to be playable.
You know what man. This is the first time watching one of your videos. You've gained my respect with this. Subscribed. Thoroughly enjoyed this. Thanks 💚
Loved the fact that you actually answered to his video in the friendliest way I could think of and even proposed a collab, would absolutely love to see you two collab for a budget build competition.
I really think Zach handled this very professionally, as well as friendly, in my opinion. The content was thorough in addressing the comparison as well as coming up with a build himself to rival Elijah's, although I believe the two were quite similar, again, in my opinion, with Zach's maybe just edging out Elijah's, price to performance wise. But that all depends on the parts you're able to get and at what price. To me, it'll be a toss up depending on who can find the better deal. And all the other one has to do is wait for a better part to become available for a better price, which, if you look around enough and are patient, you'll of course, pull off. Thumbs up!
i say i got respect for anybody who builds there own pc even if they dont know whut there doing to experts who have years doing it i would love to see pc builders get those awsome retro gameing pc cases and upgrade them with mondern components
ive found that DIY case has 3 exhaust fans stock and no intake fans , so i had to turn the 2 around backwards, or replace the fans entirely so they all match in order to have static pressure inside the case to keep temp below 65" c
I like this guy and his channel. His sense of humor and meme attacks is genuinely hilarious 😂. Its what LTT should have been. I hope ur channel stays this way and doesn't seem out like LTT. 😅
I have a background in marketing strategy, here’s what I propose for the challenge. Objective: Create an event that’s profitable, repeatable, and scalable. First year output: Content series with 8-10 videos about the PC building challenge with at least one sponsorship. Challenge format: 3 challenges, best of 3 wins. Challenge ideas: 1) Best PC $450-$500, 2) Best PC $500-$600, 3) Best Console Beater PC (price to performance vs console), 4) Best Repeatable PC out of Recycled/Used Parts under $600, 5) Handicap Build (e.g. can’t use black or white pc case). Rules: Keep it simple, 3-5 criteria. I suggest bonus points for being less expensive and penalty points for used components. Prime opportunity to engage viewers with a poll but (maybe) need to solve for potential viewer bias. Sponsorship ideas: 1) Can only use used parts found on jawa.gg. 2) Must use a certain part from sponsor. Winner gets bragging rights and maybe a physical trophy (not more than $100) and/or donation to charity of choice. Future growth levers: licensing, sponsorship, viewership, & sales. Invite more people to the challenge. Content ideas: 1) announcement, rules, and hype. 2) Challenge 1 + winner. 3) Challenge 2 + winner. 4) Challenge 3 + winner. 5) Build video from PC 1. 6) Build video from PC 2. 7) Build video from PC 3. 8) Behind the scenes, bloopers, and bonus content. 9) Recap video and presentation of award. Costs: build price for each PC, ~$5k legal fees (for contracts, intellectual property consult, etc.), and I don’t know enough about your business to anticipate other costs. There are many more considerations but that’s what I’ve got in ~20 minutes. Hit me up if you want me to put some more thought into it. I hope to see something like this come to life.
Smaller creators make their challenges easier in a way that they can focus on views and watch time. He isnt that of a small creator, but i can say this as a very small creator that still regularly uploads and is on youtuhe for almost 4 years Edit: overall, i did similar things, so I can't blame him, i dont thing hes really in the wrong
Hey Zach, first time watcher here. You got a great editing humor/style and fall into line with many bigger channels, so I don't doubt for a second, that you will grow lots the coming year, with regular uploading! Regular content being a challenge If I may suggest something; I believe positivity wins over the long run and again, I like how you call out the smart YT drama move ;) I would suggest to keep the #drama as humorous and fun in nature as matches your own personality, since end of the day we the viewer enjoya mostly the value of competitive pricing and builds being put against each other, figuring out how us brokies can get away with sick PC's and so we appreciate you both, any anyone else that joins the challenge. There's many gamers doing *me vs him* challenges, which seem to work great and pull the audience to both channels. You can keep the clickbait titles and icons, the YT win strategy
I saw some cases online earlier that were "open box" for as low as 12.99 each, says no damage and all parts included and some even come with fans. Might actually grab one to move my plex server into
I'm a student, I want to do some programming and occasional gaming. What should I buy a pc or a laptop (If my budget is $600-$700, including monitor) and I definitely want at least 512 GB storage, 8-16 GB ram and windows 11. Also, I want everything to be brand new. What option would be best for me, please recommend. Also, please tell me what laptop/custom pc parts I should use.
of cours a pc if you want my advice her is ryzen 5 3600 60$ B550m DS3H 90$ CPU cooler 20$ case 50$ Rtx 2060 super or used rx 6600 or used RX 5700 xt buy the cheap is around 100 to 200 $ PSU 550w 45$ ram 16gb 35$ SSD 512gb 30$ mouse and keyboard and heatset 60$ or less monitor 1080p 144hz 180$ or less if you want to make the setup more cheap buy and rx 5700 xt for 130$ and its same performance of an RTX 2060 super or an rx 6600 its in used market for under 150$ if you find rx 6600 withe same price of rx 5700 xt buy the RX 6600 be cause he have mech shaders
@@khalilmansouri-oj8nl Thank you so much but isn't the ryzen 5 3600 old? Isn't it worse than an Intel i5 10th gen? What if instead I buy a 5600X? Will it be worth more?
@@Kushagra_Aggarwal you d'ont need a expensive CPU to paly games and study the ryzen 5 3600 have same performance of the i5 10400 and the ryzen support overclock but i5 10400 is good choice too be cause he d'ont need a CPU cooler the stock is more than enough if you want intel her is you'r buil I5 10400 used 60-80$ new 115$ but the new one is sucks be cause you can get a ryzen 5500 witch performer better and a H510m-e I d'ont know his price but its less than 90$ and you have the ability with this motherboard to upgrade to i7 10gen and if you want ability to upgrade to i9 you have to go with Z490 for 90$ or less
the ryzen 5500 is not better than i5 10400 is the same performance too but in ryzen am4 socket you have ability to upgrade (if you have a good motherboard and a good CPU cooler) and if you want to upgrade to an I7 or an I9 you need a goodCPU cooler
Elijah's build is so close to being a perfect starting point but if I were going for a Zen+ chip I'd search out a 1600AF, you can get them for £30 a pop and in gaming there's no difference between it and the 2700X. The only Zen chip that benefitted from 8 cores was the 1700/1800X but that was due to the low per core performance. Cooling a 6 core part is not an issue for the stock cooler, AMD 6 cores just don't get that hot, if you use the stock cooler then just go to AMD master and synchronise your fabric speed and switch on PBO, it'll get you to about within 2% of the limit of the chip without needing extra cooling. The B450 PCB is still solid (I always recommend MSi MAX boards in B450, I use one in fact) but really you want a board with PCIe 4.0 if you plan to go with a beefy new card down the line to utilise a faster CPU, the money saved on the chip could bump his (and yours as well, though you'll notice the latency going back a gen from Zen 2) to a B550 board. There is something up with his testing though, he should be getting more than 85FPS out of FH5 at medium I think. 5700XT is still a beast of a card for the money, good for now but maybe getting hamstrung through lack of features as new games drop, but for now it's the used budget king. RTX20 series is also becoming attractive now, a bit cheaper and then I'd start choosing those over RDNA if I was buying. Lastly, even though my PSU is 9 years old I'd also opt for a new unit because I don't know how hard a used unit has been pushed, I know exactly how mine has been used and exactly what state it's in, it has always been used with some headroom so has never been run hard. I'd have to open the PSU up to check it before buying used (NB Never open up a PSU if you don't know what you're doing, the caps inside hold enough charge to kill and can hold that charge for 6 months or longer after being unplugged from the mains).
I would really like to see a fair competition between you two! You should just set some rules(repeatable deals, no fsr, same graphics settings and games etc) set a budget(Maybe 500$, 1000$ and a 2000$ builds) and it would turn into an amazing series for viewers and both of you!
Thanks for the tip on the RX 5700 XT - I've been struggling with making a budget Ryzen build with absolutely no money and I was able to snag one for $170 CAD (125 USD). I've been eyeing the RTX 3060 12GB for months, but the price is always around $400 CAD ($295 USD) which was seriously bumming me out.
Honestly I’d love to see Zack and other Pc builders like Elijah or Tech source to come together and make a 5-10 man comp of building say $500 pcs, $1000 pcs. Or different builds to particular requirements. Would be so cool to see the community come together like people trying to race in lemons.
would be great to have a video series where 2 builders compete and try to build a pc within a certain amount of budget by buying all parts in the same store and at the same time to even out the playing field.
I watch both channels. You're both great. Both of you come up with awesome builds. I'd love to see some friendly build competitions at different budgets.
this is how you know this guy a legend he made a video out of friendly competiton thats how you do it zack love to see this. these day iam super inpressed by zack in this vid it could be taken out of context but zack pulled it back this is how you do it zack he just wanted to bate you a little hay it a nice thing to do in my option as shows the level of class shown here iam a fan of this guy have been for a while and will continue to be love it
This kind of videos is the absolute best and fun to watch! You and every pc builder that just challange each other is so fun and always intrested too watch. 🙏👌 I love that you so frendly and good!
I'm so happy for both of you guys, i watch both your channels and love when I see a new up load. There's a newer channel KJS BUILT i just started watching to, hes got some nice builds
Funnily enough this is the first video of yours or his that I've ever seen lmao, definitely gives a good first impression of you and a nice recommendation for another channel as well
friendly competition! love it nice video Zach, i havent seen Elijahs video but if its as detailed and respectful as yours is then id give it a thumbs up too!
Do you have sites that I can learn about building pc's? Because ive always wanted one and I want be a pc builder when im older also ty you for the vids and helping some bit.
dw bout the cooler man its only an r5, you CAN get 32gb of ram but for a budget this low i wouldnt worry about that either, put that extra 50$ towards a card
You guys should just finish this in a battle of fisticuffs. Not that Elijah's build was bad, but Zen+ definitely is showing its age. Zen 2 that your 3600 per core runs miles around zen+ cores. The biggest benefit of AM4, you can go all the way up to Ryzen 5 series.
I bought the exact same build and it is so good i can do everything, streaming,cutting and content creation i would never need something better 🎉❤❤ thanks
I built a zeon 2666 with a 1080 ti that cost me roughly $380 that runs cyber punk 2077 ultra at 57 fps. Strange how budgets PCs just do everything and are cheaper with only few downsides.
I've been messing with computers since 1979 and nowadays, the case is the most important thing to me. You can get the parts for a top 10% gaming PC second hand and new for $500 but it' should look good and be quiet
I love this video 😂 the personal attack you felt is good fun. The amount of times you stated you didn't know it was a competition could be a drinking game. I hope to see more light hearted beef, that overall helps us brokies
@@TranceWarp it's the diypc q01. I've used the predecessor the q3 and they have RGB fans thatcan cycle with thereset sw. I have the new q01 at my house but thn px in there isn't booting
Just went over to this guys channel to give him a piece of my mind… by telling him that I enjoyed the healthy competition it created, gave him a sub too :D you’re both awesome, keep it up Zac
My gaming laptop build cost me less than $400 and can run any game perfectly all the parts where brand new its even being used for vr you dont need to spend alot of money for a good gaming experience i love these build videos
Let the battle commence!!!! Lol at least you know you're in it those time? Have to admit, didn't know the other guy til your video sooo I think you won already :)
Challenge idea: Build the cheapest possible pc requirements: it has to be able to run starfield on the lowest settings in 1080p with a 60fps 1%low rules: you can use new or used parts, AND you can also overclock within the factory limits of the cpu/gpu/ram
Don’t forget to activate Windows on ALL of your gaming PCS! (Use Code ZTT18 to save 25%!) biitt.ly/7MXAR
TechYesCity made a video about dying ryzen 5 3600 cpu's ,and he concluded that probably the main cause of this is the usage of the stock cooler . I suggest watching his video . Name of the video : This is Why Ryzen 5 3600s Are FAILING!
What about a rx 6600 and a ryzen 5 4500? Are they great for gaming with each other? (brand new)
For a budget build btw.
I don't want to see anything indicating Nvidia is a viable alternative now. Their power connectors still have problems, you can see it in the igorslab update. Intel has improved their drivers a lot, so you shall compare AMD with Intel next time instead of Nvidia, who are using their monopolistic power within the graphics card market badly and whose products are overpriced and inclined to fail within a short time.
@@justgoodvibes15000% bottle neck
There needs to be more UA-camr budget build competitions.
Agreed
@@ZachsTechTurf hear me out, you, OZ, Toasty bros, Jay. I'm blanking on other names but no Austin Evans, his janky caseless antics need to stop! Lol
"biggest cheapskate competition"
Should I hop on this trend? Maybe I'll challenge ZTT to a no holds bars best deals you can find within a set amount of time?
@@GK_Squidi would put Tech Yes City there too .. maybe ScatterVolt, Jason from PC Builder, heck even the professor Daniel Owen
Shoot this might lead to a new series.
I agree
Yessir
Yeah this is going to either die out after this vid or like span over a year
Nah, dont give the elijah guy attention.
Ditto bro
Love this friendly competition between PC builders as it provides more template, guide and options especially for the lower end build. Kudos to Zach as well for taking the challenge and he even posted and promoting Zach's video and page for others to see.
Thanks for watching
I enjoy Elijah's Lab's content, so it's a bummer to see the unfair comparison in builds. However, I think your video here has value in that you critiqued your own channel earnestly, explained your channels value proposition in how it differs from Elijah's, and that you continue to welcome challenges and critiques.
Solid video!
How is it an unfair comparison?
@@GingerxNeutral Unfair as in:
Elijah selected Zach's (self-admitted) worst $500 build to compete against. Zach mentions that in this video as well.
@@ShadyButFresh dude its not that deep he was just joking
@@GHOSTTIEF Was only trying to clarify - I saw what I originally wrote could definitely be misunderstood
Thanks for the recap!
Guys you need to keep challenging eachother to make a better cheaper buuld because we will eventually reach the ultimate budget PC build.
I agree!
Ummm, no. What you'll actually end up with is a never-ending bangs per buck contest. Today's ultimate budget pc build will be superceded within a month.
@@mitabpraga7487then people will know the best bang for buck pcs for every month, still very beneficial
@@ZachsTechTurf DO IT PLEASE
@@mitabpraga7487 that's free idea's every month
Tough fight. I personally preferred the black $450 PC for 2 reasons: 1. I prefer the glass front panel 🤤 and 2. It leaves $50 room for cooler and/or price diffs on parts🤑. Thanks again Zack ! All humble budget builders hail your efforts. (And Elijah is cool as well, no issue w/ him)
Love it, thanks
@@ZachsTechTurfhi
It would be cool if elijah made another pc beating yours. 😂 That would be a great series.
Lol. Maybe we should start from scratch with a proper competition :)
@@ZachsTechTurf That would be super cool but you will need to set the rules because you aren't playing on the same one as of now. Trying to make the setting of the benchmark identital would aslo be great 😅😂
@@ZachsTechTurf yep but he scored a great deal: rtx 3060 for 70 dollars and it works
@@ZachsTechTurf I just found your channel (first video) but I think it would be cool if both of you (and maybe more yts) did a tech trivia video. get someone you know and make them the host of the game show.would be a great long video and you can do two rounds (each post 1 round)
I really like how you started this out as some kind of antagonistic rivalry but then turned it into honest boosting for each other. The lore is why I'm here.
this would be a fire series if you guys take keep those PCs and do incremental upgrades with challenges each time like $150 upgrade video, upgrading them with only aliexpress stuff, amazon choice only upgrade, stuff like that. i think seeing the pc evolve throughout the episodes could add a cool dimension to the whole thing
Always love to see some friendly competition! I'm a loyal subscriber of both channels and was a bit worried after the intro, but I love both the builds
Glad you watched past the intro :)
I love the content of both of y'all and I am happy to see this is a friendly competition. I like both of the builds (yours performs better tho). I hope you guys actually plan a competition together in the future ❤
Thanks! Glad to hear it.
I like Elijah videos, and I'm glad u did this video. It was fun friendly competition videos!!! Something different then the normal everyday videos!
Agreed! Way more fun than a standard build guide video.
The 5700xt's problem is that it does not support mesh shaders. Only valid for one game right now but more are surely coming.
Yeah the whole appearance of mesh shaders has immediately made RDNA1 massively less appealing for longevity reasons
Thanks for the heads up, I didn't know theres a issue.
i just built my first pc with the help of a friend of mine and its been amazing! total cost is around 580 euro monitor and keyboard included, and the tower itself costs about 380 euro. however i got quite lucky because i got the gpu (1660 Ti) used from a friend of mine for 100 euro. the full specs are:
GPU: Inno3D GTX 1660 Ti (100€)
CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 (74€)
Ram: GSkill 16GB DDR4 3200Mhz (37€)
MB: MSI B450-A Pro Max (58€)
SSD: Crucial BX500 500GB Sata III (37€)
PSU: CoolerMaster Elite NEX 500 500W 80 plus standard (31€)
Case: Aerocool cylon (45€)
Monitor: LG ULTRAGEAR 24GN60R-B 144hz 1080p 24" (156€)
Keyboard: Redragon K617 Fizz 60% (40€)
6:23 LMFAO CALLING OUT THE SPEEDING TICKET WAS INSANE DFLKADJFDJA;FDFJAKLJDKF 🤣
did you swap the glass side panels, i cant unsee it
Love how you handled this beef. 👏🏼
Just built a 5700xt, 3600x for my living room tv. Love the perfomance for my $480 system.
One of the reasons why Elijah used a 3060, instead of some other better valued Amd cards was because for his goal (selling PCs on Facebook) Nvidia gpus tend to sell a lot better.
Great videos from both of y’all, I think you both put out a pretty similar rig in the end. If Elijah used the $125 5700xt, he’d also be sitting at around $450.
Yeah, this is a terrible $450 PC. His competition is massively better at $500.
@@brandontrost8888 Zach's is? I mean for a flip Elijah would probably have any easier time selling if he leveraged his r7 and RTX branding vs Zach's PC. But Zach's PC for the most part outperformed Elijah for less. Both are very good for the price and both look awesome. L take here.
@@brandontrost8888So you didn't watch the video then. Because that "terrible" pc outperformed the 500 pc at just about everything.
@@brandontrost8888 No , the r7 2700x can't beat the r5 3600 in gaming. The 3060 vs 5700xt is roughly equal the difference is the pricing for both. Zach wins in gaming here for 50 usd cheaper
It is true that a rtx 3060 will sell easier not only because it's Nvidia, also it's got 12gb vram. Everyone has heard how cards like the 3070 are throttling because they only have 8gb vram and having to drop below 1080p ultra for some games to be playable.
You know what man. This is the first time watching one of your videos. You've gained my respect with this. Subscribed. Thoroughly enjoyed this. Thanks 💚
Every youtuber should compete like this in the end we get the best value system 😂😂
😉
12:54 brought back SOOOOO many memories 😓🤩
Loved the fact that you actually answered to his video in the friendliest way I could think of and even proposed a collab, would absolutely love to see you two collab for a budget build competition.
the "WHO WON? YOU DECIDE" jumpscare got me 💀
I really think Zach handled this very professionally, as well as friendly, in my opinion. The content was thorough in addressing the comparison as well as coming up with a build himself to rival Elijah's, although I believe the two were quite similar, again, in my opinion, with Zach's maybe just edging out Elijah's, price to performance wise. But that all depends on the parts you're able to get and at what price. To me, it'll be a toss up depending on who can find the better deal. And all the other one has to do is wait for a better part to become available for a better price, which, if you look around enough and are patient, you'll of course, pull off. Thumbs up!
Thanks for the recap :)
No matter what, I''m staying FAR away from that apevia power supply(apevia is a bad, unreliable no-name brand.)
i love when people use budget set ups, respect to those rocking budget rigs. hats off to you
This guy cares if some dude off the internet is under 21, and the budget ballers! I love this dude
This really didn't end the way I thought it would... lol. You earned a new subscriber Zach.
i say i got respect for anybody who builds there own pc even if they dont know whut there doing to experts who have years doing it i would love to see pc builders get those awsome retro gameing pc cases and upgrade them with mondern components
This has got to be the definition of being the bigger person. Gotta love your videos. Keep up the great work!
ive found that DIY case has 3 exhaust fans stock and no intake fans , so i had to turn the 2 around backwards, or replace the fans entirely so they all match in order to have static pressure inside the case to keep temp below 65" c
I like this guy and his channel. His sense of humor and meme attacks is genuinely hilarious 😂. Its what LTT should have been. I hope ur channel stays this way and doesn't seem out like LTT. 😅
I have a background in marketing strategy, here’s what I propose for the challenge.
Objective: Create an event that’s profitable, repeatable, and scalable.
First year output: Content series with 8-10 videos about the PC building challenge with at least one sponsorship.
Challenge format: 3 challenges, best of 3 wins.
Challenge ideas: 1) Best PC $450-$500, 2) Best PC $500-$600, 3) Best Console Beater PC (price to performance vs console), 4) Best Repeatable PC out of Recycled/Used Parts under $600, 5) Handicap Build (e.g. can’t use black or white pc case).
Rules: Keep it simple, 3-5 criteria. I suggest bonus points for being less expensive and penalty points for used components. Prime opportunity to engage viewers with a poll but (maybe) need to solve for potential viewer bias.
Sponsorship ideas: 1) Can only use used parts found on jawa.gg. 2) Must use a certain part from sponsor.
Winner gets bragging rights and maybe a physical trophy (not more than $100) and/or donation to charity of choice.
Future growth levers: licensing, sponsorship, viewership, & sales. Invite more people to the challenge.
Content ideas: 1) announcement, rules, and hype. 2) Challenge 1 + winner. 3) Challenge 2 + winner. 4) Challenge 3 + winner. 5) Build video from PC 1. 6) Build video from PC 2. 7) Build video from PC 3. 8) Behind the scenes, bloopers, and bonus content. 9) Recap video and presentation of award.
Costs: build price for each PC, ~$5k legal fees (for contracts, intellectual property consult, etc.), and I don’t know enough about your business to anticipate other costs.
There are many more considerations but that’s what I’ve got in ~20 minutes. Hit me up if you want me to put some more thought into it. I hope to see something like this come to life.
Smaller creators make their challenges easier in a way that they can focus on views and watch time.
He isnt that of a small creator, but i can say this as a very small creator that still regularly uploads and is on youtuhe for almost 4 years
Edit: overall, i did similar things, so I can't blame him, i dont thing hes really in the wrong
I wouldn't have even lowered myself tbh
Hey Zach, first time watcher here.
You got a great editing humor/style and fall into line with many bigger channels, so I don't doubt for a second, that you will grow lots the coming year, with regular uploading!
Regular content being a challenge
If I may suggest something; I believe positivity wins over the long run and again, I like how you call out the smart YT drama move ;) I would suggest to keep the #drama as humorous and fun in nature as matches your own personality, since end of the day we the viewer enjoya mostly the value of competitive pricing and builds being put against each other, figuring out how us brokies can get away with sick PC's and so we appreciate you both, any anyone else that joins the challenge.
There's many gamers doing *me vs him* challenges, which seem to work great and pull the audience to both channels.
You can keep the clickbait titles and icons, the YT win strategy
You got my respect for acting so chill and professional, mate! You get a subscribe from me.
I love how the fans are all exhaust in the build 😂
I saw some cases online earlier that were "open box" for as low as 12.99 each, says no damage and all parts included and some even come with fans. Might actually grab one to move my plex server into
I love it when youtubers call out on each other. This mean more video to watch while having dinner 😂
Surprised Elijah hasn’t commented on this video, would’ve thought this would have been a good opportunity to collaborate
I'm a student, I want to do some programming and occasional gaming. What should I buy a pc or a laptop (If my budget is $600-$700, including monitor) and I definitely want at least 512 GB storage, 8-16 GB ram and windows 11. Also, I want everything to be brand new.
What option would be best for me, please recommend.
Also, please tell me what laptop/custom pc parts I should use.
of cours a pc if you want my advice her is
ryzen 5 3600 60$
B550m DS3H 90$
CPU cooler 20$
case 50$
Rtx 2060 super or used rx 6600 or used RX 5700 xt buy the cheap is around 100 to 200 $
PSU 550w 45$
ram 16gb 35$
SSD 512gb 30$
mouse and keyboard and heatset 60$ or less
monitor 1080p 144hz 180$ or less
if you want to make the setup more cheap buy and rx 5700 xt for 130$ and its same performance of an RTX 2060 super or an rx 6600 its in used market for under 150$ if you find rx 6600 withe same price of rx 5700 xt buy the RX 6600 be cause he have mech shaders
@@khalilmansouri-oj8nl Thank you so much but isn't the ryzen 5 3600 old? Isn't it worse than an Intel i5 10th gen? What if instead I buy a 5600X? Will it be worth more?
@@Kushagra_Aggarwal you d'ont need a expensive CPU to paly games and study
the ryzen 5 3600 have same performance of the i5 10400 and the ryzen support overclock but i5 10400 is good choice too be cause he d'ont need a CPU cooler the stock is more than enough if you want intel her is you'r buil
I5 10400 used 60-80$ new 115$ but the new one is sucks be cause you can get a ryzen 5500 witch performer better
and a H510m-e I d'ont know his price but its less than 90$ and you have the ability with this motherboard to upgrade to i7 10gen and if you want ability to upgrade to i9 you have to go with Z490 for 90$ or less
the ryzen 5500 is not better than i5 10400 is the same performance too but in ryzen am4 socket you have ability to upgrade (if you have a good motherboard and a good CPU cooler) and if you want to upgrade to an I7 or an I9 you need a goodCPU cooler
I hope this goes back and fourth getting better and better
Competition is what keeps us sharp. You both make great content. Keep up the great work.
Elijah's build is so close to being a perfect starting point but if I were going for a Zen+ chip I'd search out a 1600AF, you can get them for £30 a pop and in gaming there's no difference between it and the 2700X. The only Zen chip that benefitted from 8 cores was the 1700/1800X but that was due to the low per core performance. Cooling a 6 core part is not an issue for the stock cooler, AMD 6 cores just don't get that hot, if you use the stock cooler then just go to AMD master and synchronise your fabric speed and switch on PBO, it'll get you to about within 2% of the limit of the chip without needing extra cooling. The B450 PCB is still solid (I always recommend MSi MAX boards in B450, I use one in fact) but really you want a board with PCIe 4.0 if you plan to go with a beefy new card down the line to utilise a faster CPU, the money saved on the chip could bump his (and yours as well, though you'll notice the latency going back a gen from Zen 2) to a B550 board. There is something up with his testing though, he should be getting more than 85FPS out of FH5 at medium I think. 5700XT is still a beast of a card for the money, good for now but maybe getting hamstrung through lack of features as new games drop, but for now it's the used budget king. RTX20 series is also becoming attractive now, a bit cheaper and then I'd start choosing those over RDNA if I was buying. Lastly, even though my PSU is 9 years old I'd also opt for a new unit because I don't know how hard a used unit has been pushed, I know exactly how mine has been used and exactly what state it's in, it has always been used with some headroom so has never been run hard. I'd have to open the PSU up to check it before buying used (NB Never open up a PSU if you don't know what you're doing, the caps inside hold enough charge to kill and can hold that charge for 6 months or longer after being unplugged from the mains).
did you just compare a 2700x to a 1600af and said that the 1600af Is better
There is definitely a performance deficit between the 1600 AF and the 2700x///
This is the kind of competition the PC community needs, best budget build
I would really like to see a fair competition between you two! You should just set some rules(repeatable deals, no fsr, same graphics settings and games etc) set a budget(Maybe 500$, 1000$ and a 2000$ builds) and it would turn into an amazing series for viewers and both of you!
Thanks for the tip on the RX 5700 XT - I've been struggling with making a budget Ryzen build with absolutely no money and I was able to snag one for $170 CAD (125 USD). I've been eyeing the RTX 3060 12GB for months, but the price is always around $400 CAD ($295 USD) which was seriously bumming me out.
i rly enjoy Elijah's Lab's content i think hes very underrated
Agreed
Honestly I’d love to see Zack and other Pc builders like Elijah or Tech source to come together and make a 5-10 man comp of building say $500 pcs, $1000 pcs. Or different builds to particular requirements. Would be so cool to see the community come together like people trying to race in lemons.
would be great to have a video series where 2 builders compete and try to build a pc within a certain amount of budget by buying all parts in the same store and at the same time to even out the playing field.
I watch both channels. You're both great. Both of you come up with awesome builds. I'd love to see some friendly build competitions at different budgets.
Heads up on 5700xt. They show up on aliexpress for $97 "new" pretty frequently. I belive I've picked up 3 at that price.
yessir! elijahslab gon be big after this much deserved❤
did you see the video where he scammed someone
what he scamemd someone? which video@@markwazowskinreal
@@markwazowskinreal where
this is how you know this guy a legend he made a video out of friendly competiton thats how you do it zack love to see this. these day iam super inpressed by zack in this vid it could be taken out of context but zack pulled it back this is how you do it zack he just wanted to bate you a little hay it a nice thing to do in my option as shows the level of class shown here iam a fan of this guy have been for a while and will continue to be love it
Build Off! Set the parameters and go to town guys! Love to see it!
Zach you are the winner for the better pc build and for most humble UA-cam pc content creator !!!
In the next few years we might have a pc building youtuber boxing matches
helping a Young man you are kind
This kind of videos is the absolute best and fun to watch!
You and every pc builder that just challange each other is so fun and always intrested too watch. 🙏👌
I love that you so frendly and good!
I actually snagged a 5700 xt for 95$ before this video n was wondering what cpu to use with it n😀
I would really love to see a budget gaming pc competition between you Tech Source and Elijah's
5700xt has been great for years, but it's hard to recommend after the results in Alan Wake 2. We'll see mesh shaders used more and more.
I'm so happy for both of you guys, i watch both your channels and love when I see a new up load. There's a newer channel KJS BUILT i just started watching to, hes got some nice builds
Thanks for the recommendation.
Funnily enough this is the first video of yours or his that I've ever seen lmao, definitely gives a good first impression of you and a nice recommendation for another channel as well
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Two of my favorite pc building UA-camrs fighting. Yay😁
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@@shawner7340 are you the shawner?
ikr😂😂
@@donovin07 I mean. I guess. I wouldn't add "the" but I am Shawner
@@shawner7340 do you hunt? I see camo in you pfp
Awesome video, watching u had me learn more a d starting flipping laptops and pcs. Thnx honest reviews informative and straight forward.
2:23 I knew it! You cheated in our TechFam collabs! lol jk
If you ain't cheating...
friendly competition! love it nice video Zach, i havent seen Elijahs video but if its as detailed and respectful as yours is then id give it a thumbs up too!
Do you have sites that I can learn about building pc's? Because ive always wanted one and I want be a pc builder when im older also ty you for the vids and helping some bit.
So with the extra $50 swap out stock cooler for a decent budget tower cooler and then upgrade to 32gb of ram?
1000%
@shawner7340 was either that stuff or maybe try for a local marketplace snag of a better cpu but the 3600 is still a great cpu for overall use.
dw bout the cooler man its only an r5, you CAN get 32gb of ram but for a budget this low i wouldnt worry about that either, put that extra 50$ towards a card
You guys should just finish this in a battle of fisticuffs. Not that Elijah's build was bad, but Zen+ definitely is showing its age. Zen 2 that your 3600 per core runs miles around zen+ cores. The biggest benefit of AM4, you can go all the way up to Ryzen 5 series.
You Elijah and TB should do a 500$ or less PC build challenge that would be super fun and interesting
I wish you literal build a brand new system with new i3 12100f and rx 6600 for 550
This is definitely THE META budget build. nice one Zach!
I bought the exact same build and it is so good i can do everything, streaming,cutting and content creation i would never need something better 🎉❤❤ thanks
Never forget that running theme in "Life of Brian" - There is always one, isn't there?
That "I am coming for ya" was crazy cold ❄️❄️🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶
Budget PC Wars!! I love it!
I'm upgrading my pc from i5 4690k to Ryzen 5 5500 and I have a 1650 rn what gpu should I use ? plz help zach
I built a zeon 2666 with a 1080 ti that cost me roughly $380 that runs cyber punk 2077 ultra at 57 fps. Strange how budgets PCs just do everything and are cheaper with only few downsides.
I've been messing with computers since 1979 and nowadays, the case is the most important thing to me. You can get the parts for a top 10% gaming PC second hand and new for $500 but it' should look good and be quiet
I love this video 😂 the personal attack you felt is good fun. The amount of times you stated you didn't know it was a competition could be a drinking game.
I hope to see more light hearted beef, that overall helps us brokies
I love your pc builds Zach, i think It could have been cooler if you just turned the fans red
Fr why they white 😂
It may very well be that the case came with fans that only have white LEDs. My last build years ago came with those.
@@TranceWarp it's the diypc q01. I've used the predecessor the q3 and they have RGB fans thatcan cycle with thereset sw. I have the new q01 at my house but thn px in there isn't booting
@@60rll Fair enough. I'm not familiar with the case, so I assumed poorly.
i watched both and wot u r saying is absolutely bang on
Glad you agree :)
Zach came back with the receipt!💪
ooo love to see both of the people i watch
Glad to hear it!
Just went over to this guys channel to give him a piece of my mind… by telling him that I enjoyed the healthy competition it created, gave him a sub too :D you’re both awesome, keep it up Zac
quick question... If you guys knew that your initial build guide was bad, what made you release it to begin with?
entertainment
because he can and also makes him money
we need more budget build competitions
My gaming laptop build cost me less than $400 and can run any game perfectly all the parts where brand new its even being used for vr you dont need to spend alot of money for a good gaming experience i love these build videos
Let the battle commence!!!! Lol at least you know you're in it those time? Have to admit, didn't know the other guy til your video sooo I think you won already :)
How about a build and flip challenge, based on speed of ale and profit compared to build.
Its crazy how you silently roasted that guy.
Also it’s because you listen to us which is why you’re one of if not my favourite pc building UA-camrs ever!! ❤❤🐐🐐🇿🇦🇿🇦
Zach Is the best budget builder no one can beat him
I like these videos.. pushes yall too build the overall best bang for the buck. I love competition.
You are an honest person unlike some tech tips channel.
Challenge idea: Build the cheapest possible pc
requirements: it has to be able to run starfield on the lowest settings in 1080p with a 60fps 1%low
rules: you can use new or used parts, AND you can also overclock within the factory limits of the cpu/gpu/ram