1930 Ford Model A Coupe serviced for first time in 40 years. Is it worth saving?
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- Gandalf the Green Coupe has been fighting me every step of the way. We finally get to look underneath and see what kind of shape she's in. Follow along as we bring Gandalf the 1930 Green Coupe back to life! Previous video in this series- • 1930 Ford Model A coup... I'm using some real Vice Grip Garage style tactics on those spiders! Previous video- • Is this 1930 Ford Mode...
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Thanks Paul for the dedication to Jack at thee end he will surely be missed, GOD rest his soul.
Yes he will
Oh wow I didn't know about Jack Bahm!
He was the one that got me interested in Model A's, probably about 10 years ago.
May he rest in peace.
We are saddened by the passing of Jack Bahm. I’ve watched his videos and learned a lot from him, like how to shift a model a, and the radiator test. He will surely be missed.
Yes
So glad to see a solid A saved from becoming a Hot Rod. I agree the spider webs were an unwelcome aftermarket accessory.
But period correct accessory, right?
More great content, Paul. So sorry to hear of Jack’s passing. One less guy who wants to keep ‘em original. An inspiration for sure.
Yep
Gandalf, looks better underneath, than most modern cars. It will look even better when you are finished with it. I hope you and Tina had a safe trip home from Texas with all that searing heat. Thanks again.🤩
Thanks Luke!
Sorry to hear about Jack's passing. He is another one of my Model A UA-cam heroes. Thanks for letting us watch over your shoulder while you continue working on Gandalf.
Glad it’s not rusty! Sorry for Jack Bahms passing. He was a great model a guy.
Great Video
So Long Jack - you will be missed
Saw your vidoes on Kerriville/MAFCA meet. Just thought you might want to know, Kerriville is in the Hill Country of Texas. East Texas is 50 miles east of I45 north of I10 and south of I30, its also known as the Piney Woods. You need to make a trip to Autumn Trails and see Tex Willis in his domain. Winnsboro is a great little town, Tex's dad help put it on the map with Autumn Trails. Hope to see you there in October, not nearly as hot.
I have a feeling that future historians will curse the day Tex Willis and I met.
Another great Saturday morning watching the Boomerest channel. Sorry to hear about your friend Jack.
Much appreciated
Paul, another great video. I returned from Kerrville to find my wife having covid. Now I have it. I'm trying to get things dune but staying tired. Hope the meds do their job and I'm back under my 30 Fordor soon.
The first Model A videos I watched was by Jack Bahm. He was a treasure to the A community and will be missed.
I hope you pop out of it soon. Best to you and the Mrs.
Glad to see you made it safely home from Kerrville, TX. Was hoping you would've take some of that heat back with you and looks like you did. Thanks for sharing.
We are SO glad to be back home!
Paul, something I've learned over the years when servicing a vehicle, especially an unknown one, is to pull the fill plug first before the drain. If you drain it and then find out that you can't get the fill out you're in real trouble.
That's excellent advice!
Never thought that I wouldn’t be able to get the fill plug out, good advise.
Good Vid. I would suggest a funnel for filling up those bottles.
Yea, I know....
Found your youtube site recently. I have a conundrum. I have a 1931 two door sedan my grandmother bought second hand in 1938 for $118.00 in Tennessee. My dad drove to college, He, being in the NAVY after graduation, and mom drove all over the country to different bases. By 1967 there were three kids and he bought her a VW Bug planning to restore the 'A'. Suddenly new orders cause a move to Ohio, we drove the 'A' to Knoxville and put it up on blocks in the grandparents one car garage. After returning from Germany in 1984, I visited the grandparents and they made me take everything that belonged to my mom as well, as the 'car', and bring it home to mom in California. My plans had been to restore it back to drive-able but work, time, etc got in the way. Eventually I did a bunch of research to make sure I could get what I needed to restore it and proceeded to dismantle it. Bead blasted the frame and all the misc bits and pieces that were under the body and coated everything with POR -15. Original paint, a little surface rust on the body but it's sound, even have a the glass. Bought a lot of replacement parts new and used. The front frame/cross-member had been welded so many times and metal added is was twice the weight of a used one I found. One thing led to another and it 1922 and still in pieces. The family wants me to finish the restoration. I'm wondering if it's worth doing, cost wise. The labor is just my time sanding and assembling, paying for paint and upholstery. Being 69 next January do I want to spend a year or so or should I hand it over to my nephew who says he go original not hot rod. Any suggestions. I know it's a loaded question.
You are really in a jam! Are there any Model A clubs in your area? You need some help. I kinda think it's dragging on due to lack of a real motivator. If you hang out with some real go-getter Model A people who will help, I think that is the shortest path from here to done
Hi Paul! Nice to see you back home and old Gandolf the Green on the project work list. She's still a nice looking, older girl. My first car was a 1962 4 door with a locked up 283 engine, the brakes didn't work and there was a lot of little things I had to fix. I pulled the plugs, primed each cylinder with diesel, then transmission oil and finally motor oil. Left it set for a day, then attempted to turn it over. Long story short, that was a waste of time. Sold it for scrap and got the $35 I paid for it. Thanks for sharing, I hope you and Model T have a great weekend.
I remember those type of disappointments when I was young and broke too.
I would like to say “my car” is a beauty and in good hands!!
Keep up the good work Paul and Tina with her polishing 😀👍🏼❤️.
We always call it "Ryne's car" around here.
I am a now retired 42 years ASE Master Automotive Technician and at one time while working for GM I had the chance to drive and work on a 1928 Wihippet a very interesting car. Great job on the fluids and wish I was able to own one of these cars. Good luck, Mike
Thanks for sharing Mike!
Sorry to hear about Jack. May he rest in peace. Keep plugging away on Gandolf.
That car looks just about perfect to me. I like them with a bit of patina (at 52 I have some signs of wear and tear too). I'm very much a nature lover - but I draw the line at sharing a cabin with black widows :)
Agreed! And, when you draw that line, I bet it looks very artistic.
Something tells me that's going to be a good A. Sorry to hear about Jack Bahm. I learned a lot from his videos. I broke the bank and put Stipe shocks on mine, best money I ever spent. They are so beautifully machined I hated to paint them.
Add my thanks to your tribute to Jack - I learned much from his generous sharing of his great knowledge of Model A's. Taught me a lot as I got into this hobby.
Gandalf is looking and sounding great. I'm surprised the smoke from the oil in the muffler didn't choke out the spiders. 😄
You and me both!
the animation looks great!
Indeed! Thank you
Great content as always Paul!
Thanks!
That car is so clean under neath! It has been restored at some time. My 1929 A circa 1954 had 1/2 inch of rock hard grease grime on trans and diff and many other parts. I am certain that tran and diff fluids were never change after leaving Ford factory. I also never changed any either. That car was crusty to say the least. My brother and I drove it up the unpaved highway from Apache Junction to Payson and then on to the Mongollom rim road to Buck springs for the summer. Climbing the last grade into Pason we used all of our water on multiple stops (almost 5 gallons). We did pull the engine and got new bearings poured and fitted before this trip. Couldn't afford new pistons so we hand deglazed cylinder walls with 120 grit and put new rings on the old original pistons. I drove that car for over 3 years (about 25000 miles). It burned a quart of oil for every tank of gas. Not bad in my book. I sort of hated that thing at the time but strange how we manage memories so I look back with great altered memories. I never could fix the brakes due to the worn out cam shaft thingys which expand the shoes. Could not find that stuff at that time. All the junk yard ones were also worn out. Sold that thing after breaking rear main leaf spring (after replacing it at great difficulty). I was good with the tools but just got tired of always wrenching on it
We guess this was restored in the late 60's.
Wow! You really had a time with your A. Character building to say the least.
Paul, nice dedication to Jack. Thanks.
Thank you Kevin
you are a funny guy with the spiders
The shocks on the front are vintage"Houdailes". They all operated the same, and we're adjustable for ride quality. Near impossible for the hobbyist to re-build, but there are companies that have the tools and techniques to do it.
I rebuild stock Model A Houdaile shocks all the time. The fronts are not Modl A shocks
@@ModelA They were used till 48 I think. They were all similar, so no surprise that yours are not 28-31. Unfortunately my Model a had no shocks at all on the front, but junkyard MG lever shocks,(Armstrong), we're practically a bolt-on. It would be near impossible to find them today.
Love your videos !!
Thanks Rick!
Thank you for your videos, it makes me want to get one for myself.
Do it!
Thank you ❤️
Just know that we ALL miss him.
Happy to see I’m not the only one with the spider problem on my 31 lol.
We have first-world problems man!
Like my grandpa says "this A-model almost 90 years old, I quess its got a right to leak and burn some oil"
Thanks again for Shinn convention coverage.
Spiders, My favorite heebie-jeebies moment is going to a mountain site and finding mouse droppings
in the radio cabinet thinking of Hantavirus virus and holding my breath.
Been there, done that too!
I live on a boat in the middle of England, which is full of spiders. Luckily we only have harmless ones. I quite like them. My psychiatrist is an arachnophobe. I think he's nuts... Gandalph looks really solid to me. Well worth the effort.
Thanks Bill. Best of luck with your 8-legged pets.
That truck was for sale at Hershey last year
Paul, you have way more patience than I do, I would have definitely gone for a short test drive after changing the fluids.
If you saw the tires, you wouldn't!
@@ModelA Oh, so that's why. Looking forward to the first on-the-road video!
Another awesome video paul. I hope one day you can be on jay lenos garage. That would be crazy. All the cars he has never seen a model A.
Jay Leno is way too high class to have a guy like me on his show. I'm just a regular guy.
Re-watching and its just as much fun as the first time. Oh, BTW what oil did you use? lol.
As always, good episode, Paul. Surprised at the title "Is it worth saving?" because Gandalf is so solid etcetera. Looking forward to the steering box episode. When Gandalf was on the lift the exhaust pipe looks like it blows onto the axel. If so, wouldn't that be bad heating up the axel and the oil in it? As in stressing the seals and degrading the oil.
Heard about Jack last week. Very kind of his grandson to send out that video.
It misses the rear axle by a bit. Optical illusion.
@@ModelA Thanks, Paul.
Hello Paul - 1. Watched your videos 2. Joined Model A Ford Club of America and Alamo As of San Antonio 3. Went to Kerrville and met Tex Willis 4. Next: I’ll go to Alamo A meetings and ask around for a good starter A.
Thank you!
Awesome! Good work.
Hey Paul, I can not remember which video you did but I think you said you like the Optima battery as your choice. I agree due to it being a sealed battery so when you charge it you dont blow your face off. I can not find one here in the Bay Area and parts houses say they cannot order one. Any suggestions for a sealed 6 volt battery. Keep up the videos. Very helpful.
I order them from Summit Racing when the locals are out.
Rest in Eternal Peace Jack Bahm...
Noticed the optimum battery in your cars do you find they have better cranking or just a personal choice
I just like them. No reason.
One of the biggest advantages of AGM batteries (like Optima) is that they take a charge very quickly, so your generator/alternator doesn't work nearly as hard. If the car does a lot of sitting/storage buy a deep cycle version.
I'm really glad you use the correct term. "Chassis" instead of the typical USA "frame". Frames go around pictures or windows. Just sayin'!
People are still all over me for calling the motor a motor.
@@ModelA don't sweat it! We say motor in South Africa pretty often too!
She looks good ..
What used to be the average time people kept cars like a Modell A back then? Because if you see clips filmed in the 30s and early 40s, you rarely see Model As, and it looks like the Model T disappeared also very quickly. Unlike in the 1990s and early 2000s, when cars lasted 10 and more years. Here ion the UK you still see quite some people using Volkswagen T2 for holiday purposes = they are way easier to repair than modern computer cars.
Great question! It seems that people have been a throw-away society for a long time. When the newest thing comes out, they toss away the old one, even if it still works, and must have the new one. In the mid 30's, automobile styling took a major leap forward. Suddenly, everything made before then looked antiquated. Add to that, as America climbed out of the depression and money wasn't so tight, owning a new car was a symbol of success, and highly coveted.
My experience was a little different from your's. Born in 1942, I was in high school in the late 1960's. There was always at least one Model A in the high school parking lot. And you were almost certain to see at least one on the street every day. I do remember listening to a couple of adults discussing the dearth of Model A's in the 50's, though. One said something to the effect of, "I wonder where all the Model A's went. During the war there were tons of Model A's on the streets and suddenly they all disappeared." The other guy agreed, saying somehing like, "Yeah, I guess when all the new cars became available after the war everybody felt so good that they all went out and bought a new one." As a young teenager, who didn't really remember the war years, I thought there were still plenty of Model A's to be seen. But then, I didn't have any basis for comparison to earlier times.
You mentioned the windshield needed changing. Is that something you can easily (moderately priced perhaps) obtained, say from a local auto glass shop? Looking forward to the brake video. I have never seem Model A brakes, just drums and later disk brakes starting from the 50's on.
I have obtained the glass already. Just need to do it
Glass being flat in many old cars doesn't pose much problem in obtaining and having it cut. Many to most good glass shop have flat safety glass in stock and will cut for you. The better ones will install it too.
@@discerningmind Thanks for the answer. I was just curious if it was something really hard / expensive to get. I know the cars are getting close to 100, still hard to believe so much is available to keep them alive.
@@oldtanker4860 Get yourself a Snyder's Catalog. They're free and you'll be amazed at just how much is available. It's Snyder's Auto Parts in Ohio.
Paul, at 13:27, when the car is idling, there is a fairly loud clacking sound. Is this normal model a slow idle? Our coupe has a similar clack at slow idle.
That's the sound of a very healthy Model A idling at bout 300 RPM.
Good morning Paul! Do you know any good source for a front cross member for a 1929 Phaeton? I was hoping to find one that hasn’t been welded on.
Ask Steve at Bert's Model A Center
Of course its worth saving. Its a nearly 100 year old ford and its in good shape
Spiders dont bother me generally. However if thos are black widow spiders 🕷 yeah im not a fan 😆 great video!
Looking for a new home the past 3 months. Viewed one this week. Haven't found the perfect one yet 😕 might not start the model a hobby till next year.
Hope you find the perfect pad soon!
I'd say plan on a year or so after you move in to get home things done. Don't become a prisoner to your house and property though. Mistake I made. You can never really finish everything that'll need doing.
I agree with your attitude about black widows and will venture to add brown recluse to the keep-them-away-from-me list.
Agreed
Did you get the Sport Coupe Cleaned up from the trip yet?
Yep
The reason you are having a hard time getting rid of spiders is because they have "book" lungs and they can hold their breath. Most insects breathe through tubes along the side of their bodies. They are killed by contact insecticides. Spiders must be killed by systemic insecticides and most I have come across are deadly to most pets, so you must watch where you put them. I agree that black widows should be approached with due caution and eliminated through mechanical means. Other spiders for the most part are harmless and eliminate other pests on a daily basis. I really enjoy your channel and keep up the good work!
Thanks Todd. So, more spray, right?
@@ModelA Have you ever heard of a "Webster"? It's kind of a spherical broom with an extendable handle. Make sure you get the egg sack too! The spray normally doesn't get through the egg sack. Once you get the spider out and on the ground your foot can do the rest.
Good Morning, was wondering where you purchase the 600w in a gallon size? Thanks, as always great video.
I would like to know the same thing.
Local Mobil commercial fluids dealer.
Thanks. Hmm I will have to see if there is one in Central PA.
Pray for these oils to be available; I’ve heard of shortages of these like with everything else.
I'm sorry to hear about friend Jack.
Oh why Didn't get your power washer to get rid of the spider webs?
Because I don't want to get this car wet just yet.
@@ModelA What Do you think that will shrink?? Lol
Shop vac.
Have you ever flushed the transmission and differential with kerosene before putting in new oil like the original Ford service bulletins suggest?
A long time ago when we were allowed to dispose of the dirty kerosene at the used oil container at the landfill. Now, they specifically say nothing but engine oils, and in big letters "NO FUELS". Under that they list fuels, and kerosene is one of them. So with no responsible way to dispose of the dirty kerosene, no.
I noticed you were filling up your 600W bottles with Mobilgear 600 XP460. Where to you buy the oil, I live in Canada near the US border and I can't find it in Canada or in Bellingham, WA.
Local Mobil commercial fluids dealer.
What he said
It's Alive!
Good morning Paul, thanks for an other video. Jesus at yours there is really hot, here in Curacao, we are in the low eighties, but this is with ocean around us. Great video for the inspection down the vehicle below, gives a good idea of how this Model A looks. No, its going to be tops this car. Kind regards to Tina and a good weekend. The Jacobs.
Thank you Myron!
They are all worth saving! Maybe not worth the money but they're all worth saving in my humble opinion! But it's not my money for witch I have none LOL!
Don't feel bad, my brother. For, I also started with nothing. Absolutely nothing. Grew up in a mixed race, booze fueled family who really never wanted me around. I decided that I didn't want to be anything like them, so I got out ASAP and started a nee life. I also put my faith in Christ and never looked back. Educated myself, and worked hard to create something.
I'm with yea on the spiders.
Is there a reason to convert my model A to electronic ignition?
If you want it to break down, yes.
Changing fluids gives the car cheapest tune up you can give. It gives you a baseline to know when to do it next.
It is also a little therapeutic.
Spiders they are everywhere! I don't understand why someone would not want shocks ?
They probably failed and were too expensive to replace?
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I see you have the same problem without a funnel as I have with a funnel😁
New sub! Liked 😀😊👍
Thanks!!
Those black widows come out at night. A flashlight & you bug spray is your ticket👍
I'm not trying to one-up you, but my shop vac makes for quick elimination of the webs ectcetra.
Well at least the spiders like Gandoff
Do you worry about asbestos while driving/working on these cars? I have a 35 ford and not sure if I've accidentally exposed myself and my family to it.
There's no asbestos left on them these days. asbestos would have been in a few of the gaskets and the brakes. Nowhere else.
Xevery car (model A) is worth saving.
Spiders are amazing, I leave several living in my house to catch mosquitoes, which are terrible. Given, we don't have black widows here. (comment just to annoy you)
Hahaa! Well done!
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When Pittsburgh Plate Glass bought Ditzler Paint they became Pittsburgh Paint and Glass but still PPG!
Did not know that. Thank you!
@@ModelA Cheers Paul!
I hat it when they take the car and make a hot rod out of them!
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Wow those cans of paint or so old Ditzler that is PPG now just to tell you how old I am I remember buying it when it was Ditzler I still say you need to get rid of that car need to sell it to some poor sap you know😂
I need some poor sap to paint the fenders first
Get breaker bar save your shoulder
What if My shoulder is stronger than my breaker bar?
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Spider, spider on the wall,
Ain’t you got no sense at all?
Don’t you know that wall’s been plastered?
Get off that wall you little…
Spider.
Hahahaaa!
🙂🤝🏻🧑🗽🇺🇸
Black Widows do not belong where people are. Their bite may not be painful, but that is only because all of the pain comes later.
Yes
Good thing Gandalf has old enamel and will buff. A cracked up old lacquer job is no fun at all.
Gandalf has lacquer on the body and cracked up enamel on the fenders
@@ModelA My bad, Thought I saw green/gray on the enamel can. Done body work on a handful of A's through the years and enjoyed it. Your channel and Astra - Werke are must watch UA-cam for me.
Well if you don’t want it, it’s not worth it give it to me😂
Hahaa!!
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