I'm Team UA Woodrow all the way. I've used tube amps for 47 years. The Woodrow feels as exciting as it sounds. It's so dynamic. It is a rubicon we have crossed with these.
I’m an advocate of this approach. A few years ago, I ditched all my tube amps to got with Fender’s Tonemaster amps (Twin and Deluxe Reverb) for live gigs. Will never go back. And I’m looking at trying the new Boss-IR2 at the next gig - in live settings the digital products go a long long way… feel and sound great. I donated all my tube amps to musical charities.
One thing I would highly recommend with a stereo rig like this is to use a pedal like the Duophony to run the pedals in stereo and balance the signals so that the right side isn't pulling more than the left side and also to keep your stereo effects balanced as well.
Another perfect solution I have is a Allen & Heath ZED 10FX Mixer. Solves all issues and so convenient to feed stereo outs from mixer to sound guy for Front Room sound
Please forgive my clipped style. But!!! You did the best modeling promo ever. I'm 70, yes older than dirt. And I'll play Praise and Worship this Sunday. Bass, Guitar, any chart. But I sub to 15 Guitar Content UA-camrs. Seriously, this is helpful. You put the chops on the little boxes and we understand!! Thank you sincerely. I may change the makeup of my next gig with a pedal board with simulators. Ayyy!!!! Happy New Year and Thanks and thanks for sharing!
A few years ago I started acquiring pedals, and I was buying EVERYTHING that came out, from SweetWater, spending 1000s of $s, after being a 2-3 pedal guy for 15 years I went all the way and had a huge, stereo board, with an ACS1 and a Boss IR2 on different boards going into effects loops, etc. I had a luscious, overkill rig, and it was glorious, but I noticed that with all those options I still yearned for a simpler setup, and my tone wasn’t necessarily better with all those pedals, I just had a shitload of options, most of which I never really used. Last month I sold most of my gear and went back to a dead simple setup, mono with 5 pedals. I still have the Ir200, and now I get the best tone of my life because I only kept the really good stuff and sold everything else. 1 fuzz, one Od, and a boss DD8. My tone rules now and my OcD can relax because I have a dead simple rig. I might get t rid of the IR200 eventually and just use an IR2, but I’m happy Moral of the story: after 20 years of playing I’m back to simplicity, after going on a gear journey, and I’m enjoying guitar now more than I ever jave
Funny how we discover that all that really matters is the music. Notes matter, tone is subjective and ultimately irrelevant. I love big iron and tubes, but the cost, ridiculous weight and their inevitable tone degradation over time is real. Did I mention I despise screens and sub menus ? Lol
Mike, I just love your content, your guitar playing skills, the way you break down each subject to every single detail, the way you film these videos. You are doing an incredibly amazing job. I just wanted to say thank you for all this. The goat!!!
Interesting, I think the user interface is a critical aspect. What's the learning curve / time needed before you can get the presets dialed in and are comfortable with what the switches, knobs, sliders, and wheels control relative to the indicators, graphic ICONS, and the sound output, understand when something goes wrong and how to fix it. Who turned my knob?
I really like the style on this video - keeping the guitar riff playing as you speak over the video what you are doing next, plus the clean edits and jumps. While there will always be some market for full size tube amps - profilers/modellers have been around for a while and have been widely adopted. These amp-in-a-pedal have slipped in below the price of the big profilers and are a great option for many. (as well as the big rock stars) A (big-ish) pedalboard with 4 or 5 amps wired in various configurations, plus your favorite pedals that you can take anywhere - with maybe a FRF cab or foldback or IEM so you can hear yourself. I do love the line about the infinity stones - and I'm sure there will be a full set at some point.
I love your content. I've been a tube amp user for 25 years. I now use a UA Lion, Ruby, and Dream 65 exclusively for playing out. Never going back. When I can't go straight to front of house, I just bring a Line 6 powercab. Cannot beat it.
When you said church gig, I got a big smile. So fun to play live at a church with the whole room singing along. I learned a lot about guitar playing in a church band. Had to lean the Nashville number system quick - pastor would throw out a song you hadn’t prepared and didn’t know. Band leader calls out the chord progression and you go with it
Cool video, love watching your process of discovery. I used tube backbreakers of all sorts, but mostly Mesa Boogie (but are built like and weigh as much as tanks) for three decades. Their amps have the amazing ability to be the cleanest amp in the world and the highest gain and everywhere in between. Then I discovered Kemper in 2019 and haven't looked back. I've literally migrated everything into the Kemper. The only other pieces of gear I run is two Dunlop mini volume pedals - one for well, volume, and the other for Morphing (increasing a parameter like delay in the fly), and a wireless. And when I miss the tube amps, which is rare the Kemper is so close, I plug the Kemper into the effects return of one of them and have the amazing tone of the Kemper through the Tube power section and Celestion speaker.
I'm planning to get a guitar and take lessons in 2024, so I've been using channels like yours to do advance research. It is getting a bit scary to see the learning curve that is ahead, so I guess I better factor in experimentation and patience. Thank you for teaching me something new!
Don't get too caught up all the gear hype. 1) determine what you really want to do. Do you want to play electric guitar music? Do you want to play acoustic guitar music? That is like choosing between a pedal bike and a motorized bike. Some stuff will be similar for both but if you have no interest in acoustic guitar, don't start with an acoustic. ( I have taught, gigged and done workshops for 30+ years btw) 2) realize that most folks fail because they don't practice. They just talk, watch videos and buy stuff. 3) set goals. I have friends who have bought guitars for 30 years and can't play a damn thing. Because guitar to them is a status symbol, a social tool and a dreamy make believe escape from reality. They are guitar failures. 4) learn musical terminology.
Considering the studio is supposed to be the ideal scenario and the road is the practical scenario, you'd expect amps to be used more in the studio than live. But Satriani ditched his Marshalls for recording his last album for example. It seems digital has come so far it's good enough and more practical than lugging round a tube amp.
I switched to a preamp DI'd into the PA 18 months ago and I haven't looked back. Even with cheap IEMs I hear myself better and it's easier to mix on stage. I've been using the two notes ReVolt. Sounds fine and works well. I sometimes use a FRFR cab if it's a tiny gig but otherwise I'm very happy.
Hey Mike Cole Thanks for doing this Video on Perception of what you think is to come to the future of guitar. I was scared of doing the offering of digital IK Multimedia package of Keys and Amplitube Amps of which I could/would never afford during Covid 2019. Purchasing the AXE Solo NOT buying the IR Modeling product "TONEX" YET. Practice. Happy New Year 2024 to you & ALL
I just want all the gear, every single thing I can get my hands on. It's a hobby. I'm a metal head thrash lover but I still want to be Stevie Ray Vaughan when I feel like it. I want that Pink Floyd tone sometimes. I love a twangy tele and a SG and a Steve Vai Ibanez. Never stop Mike, just keep learning and enjoying the wonderful gift you have. Constantly evolving and changing setups is part of the fun and joy of what we love.
I played in a small group that would perform at community events and most of the times there were no monitors so I needed an amp to hear myself. I think amps still have a place for budding musicians in unpredictable environments
I recently joined a band and elected to go for a Dream 65 as my amp sound instead of a traditional tube amp. It's much more convenient for our limited rehearsal and recording space, and it will be much more flexible when we start gigging. If direct-in works best for the venue, then we'll be all set. If I need an actual on-stage amp, then I can just plug into a power amp and cabinet!
lol I wanted a Selmer so I could sound like Syd Barrett on Interstellar Overdrive. Ultimately I got a Thorpy Scarlet Tunic instead, pedal chain in tact, straight to DAW. Sure enough, it's the bold sparky electric character I wanted from the Selmer but SILENT NOISE FLOOR, no endless service, electrocution, etc, just "nicer" to own and use in every way. And if I want to crank my stereo to feel it get loud in the room & get kicked out of the house I can. Love it. Effectrode boost & fuzz for true tube compression before it & I'm in heaven.
In think we are on a parallel path. I’m now playing a Milkman The Amp 100. It’s the hybrid between going direct and/or with a 1x12 cabinet with a neo creamback. The direct amp sim is really great. And I’m playing with headphones which is moving me to play lighter. And protect my hearing. It’s a whole new world and I dig it.
I stared selling my amplifier and deside to used my Logic Pro x plug-ins to do love performances with two speakers 300 watts and build my own track. It sounds awesome nothing better than my guitar effects library
U2/Edge had always been a HUGE influence on the effects part of the guitar scene and it makes so much sense he'll be running them live. Also, even though he might have billions of dollars in insurance I think he'd rather not risk his equipment getting bust with how expensive vintage gear are getting now. He already hulls hundreds of effects so a couple more probably is easier for him. Also, Mike I'm loving your improvement in video editing lately and wanted to say looking forward to what you'll be showing us on 2024. Hope you had a merry Xmas, and a great NY to come :D
To a relative newbie could you go over how you system is architected. Guitar to pedal board to a interface to your laptop and then through the computer speakers ? What app are you running on the laptop ? Thanks
It should be noted that Edge’s change was partly due to the particular venue in Vegas and related requirements. That is not a normal building/stage. I’ve briefly used a Ruby for a set where I had to learn it in about 5 minutes and thought it was okay, but not ideal for my board. If UA made a Hiwatt style I’m sure it would be great…that’s the amp style I built my rig around. Obviously the convenience of the UAs is hard to beat, doubly so for stereo. I still appreciate real amps, but if it sounds good, it is good.
You know, the edge seems like an old school guy, but he has been open to the new tech. I was amazed to find out one of his favorite distortion boxes was a line 6 drive modeler (like the box of the DL4) he had line 6 build him a custom rack version of the pedal box when it first came out.
Can you explain if these make any sense for home use if home use at low volume is all you do? It seems like you still need a cabinet so would it make sense to go this route if you are ready to step up from something like a Katana? Would the cabinet limit the variety of sounds you would get from these things? I am thinking of getting something like a Vox AC15 but all I hear is that tube amps are eventually going to be gone and tubes are getting harder to get.
A note about your geeked out drive to try all stereo setups: 1) Playing live I enjoy the sound as well. 2) As a mixing engineer I get tracks other artists recorded themselves. 90% of the time I take their stereo tracks and make them mono. Trying to fit stereo in a mix and place everything so it has its' place is just too difficult. That's why EDM can sound huge and lifeless at the same time.
They could never replace a tube amp for me the feeling of a cranked tube amp is so good I don’t even think about switching if I’m ever at the point where cat and convenience are more important to me than tone and feel I might consider these though lol
The elephant in the room is this: Stevie Ray probably didn't use a Fender Twin in his bedroom Jimi didn't probably use a Marshall stack in his bedroom Mayer probabably doesn't use a Two Rock in his bedroom Man! I have sold gear and gigged my whole life and an appropriate amp for a 10,000 seat arena is most likely NOT an appropriate amp for a guy's living room or a tiny club that seats 100 people. The biz is so saturated with hype and rather non- thinking egos it is laughable. Folks get over obsessed with gear and tone because it is easier to buy stuff than learn to actually be able to play even the most basic gig or session. As a guy who has gigged 40+ years, honestly, the clothes you wear and the hat you have on, on stage and how you interact with your audience will be far, far more important to the average audience than how perfect your tone is on stage. They won't hear that anyway because they are going to hear something totally different because the P.A. and the physical distance they are from your rig changes everything. Wake up! Learn to play, learn to talk to the audience, learn to network with other players. Don't get obsessed with gear and chasing some " perfect" amp. It is cruddy excuse to avoid learning how to make music.
Theyre alot of fun. I own the Dream, but.. youll be back to amps. As soon as a soundman doesnt give ya what you need in the monitors, youll switch back. Now I carry it in my backpack in case my amp goes down, or its a real small, or crappy load in. And it takes pedals well tho, and definitely sounds like a Deluxe.
Got put off their compressor pedal when I realised some of the features needed a phone or laptop to access. I like everything at my fingertips. Thats why old amps persist. Because its at your fingertips. They still sound good though. Cant deny that.
thank you Mike for this video ! What you just prove is that you can get a very classic sound without these very pricy amp. Happy 2024 and much success to you and your channel!
The Edge was up front about WHY he chooses the modelers: he's using them on projects like playing TV gigs where they don't have the time to set up his usual prefered rig, or on things like the Las Vegas show where there's so much more happening than the band that it doesn't make sense to have something like amps and mic to manage if something goes wrong. But he's worked with companies like Line 6 since their very beginning. He's accustomed to working around their limitations. Still, if he were in the studio he'd probably choose real amps, because given the space, time, and access why wouldn't you? I think modelers make sense for a lot of practical reasons in the modern world, and if they make you happy and convince you of a feeling then why not?
I have The Edge Deluxe, and it is beautiful! I can easily see why it would be convenient to carry modelers...but what is he actually recording with? I hear a difference. I feel a difference with the playing dynamics controlling the amp. Maybe it's just me.
Mike…there’s another stone. It’s called the Lion. Also, I run the Ruby and Dream in stereo and they’re incredible. I have them mounted upside down under my pedalboard.
I've been using a Boss ME-90 as my all-in-one solution. The amp models in it are quite good (though I'm sure a dedicated unit would be better), and it's got a very intuitive interface, if you came up playing with stomp boxes. I can also shut off the amp sim, and put something in the ME-90's loop, like, say, a ToneX pedal if I want a different sort of amp (I've got a nice model of a Dr. Z Maz 18, which is also an amp I own, and is obscenely heavy). I can run it into a board, a powered cab, or even an actual amp if it has an effects loop, and always get the sound I expect to get. Which I think is the main thing for me, as I'm a jazz player, and often end up using a house amp, which may or may not be any good. Tube amps are amazing, but they can be temperamental - especially vintage ones. I can toss the ME-90 into a backpack, and take the ToneX along as a backup for about five pounds, as opposed to 45 or so for a tube amp.
Smaller scale, but I saw Big Bad Voodoo Daddy last month and the guitarist (Scotty) had the Dream 65 on his board. Sounded amazing in the mix with the horns and rhythm section. Easy for those fly dates too!
Mike, Hello there, I found to today, 15 mins ago actually and enjoyed your video. Can you post your settings on these pedals as a base line for first timers using these pedals . . . Thanks, Jim
Meh. If I’m going to jam with a friend, how does that work? Do I need to bring my laptop and a PA along? If I’m playing at home I assume I need studio monitors and a digital interface? It doesn’t really sound simpler to me. It makes sense for touring, where you will definitely have a PA system and stage monitors. But for home use or small time gigging, to me it seems like more parts. What am I missing?
A stereo rig does sound amazing , especially when blending different amps tonal characters, but there's still a lot to be said about a mono guitar sound being a discrete part placed in a stereo mix of a whole band. It's not all about the guitar dominating everything and if everything is put into stereo to compete you just end up with two mono mixes panned left and right, and any dynamics just become lost in a wall of everything
I’d pickup one from this series if they had headphone outs. That’s the only feature I think they missed. It’s how I mostly use an ACS-1, can just grab it and play without needing to do any other setup or routing.
Got all 4 UAD amp pedals plus the Starlight. I don't know...i got the Kemper profiler already for years which sounds awesome. And now that the Kemper Player has hit the market and i bought one, i don't know what to do with all those UAD pedals...I really love them all, but....
I play big amps loud in buildings where the only worship is for a good time, good booze, meeting someone new... and hearing artists challenge your mood with great sounds and grooves.. I play Wet Dry Wet. The wet amps are louder and fed with a stereo image from a J. Rockett Clockwork echo (an idealized Memory Man) The dry is a vintage Deluxe.. tweed in the safer rooms, brown or black in the lower rent areas. -- and I could really see making the dry amp a Woodrow or the AC30 sound from an Iridium. and a PA wedge as the stage sound for it. or even lighter with the dry amp being the real vintage deluxe and the stereo wets being what you have there, a 65 and a Woodrow. - then I need two loud separate powered PA cabs one for each -- see? that's just it. The immersive sound of your amps has to be replaced and in-ears only don't cut it for me. There still has to be a lot of PA wattage giving you a sense of moving air. The last time I played in a church I just brought my Strat and my Deluxe Reverb. I needed nothing else.. and the folks in the pews had eyes welling up with tears. - I think the real amp with quality tubes has more 3D effectiveness on human emotion. I think it has electrons... holy electrons... blessed harmonics. I predict that The Edge will go back to real amps. This is just a phase people are going through. --- That said, this was a fun video! Go through this phase... then go back to real... but be warned... I will have bought up all the good vintage fenders on the Market by then., LOL
I A/B’d a fully serviced/original 1967 deluxe reverb (through an Apollo etc) against a uad dream and the latter sounded EXACTLY the same if not better.
Mike, your videos are always entertaining and informative. Your enthusiasm and sense of humor makes them impossible to ignore. Thank you!
I'm Team UA Woodrow all the way. I've used tube amps for 47 years. The Woodrow feels as exciting as it sounds. It's so dynamic. It is a rubicon we have crossed with these.
I’m an advocate of this approach. A few years ago, I ditched all my tube amps to got with Fender’s Tonemaster amps (Twin and Deluxe Reverb) for live gigs. Will never go back. And I’m looking at trying the new Boss-IR2 at the next gig - in live settings the digital products go a long long way… feel and sound great. I donated all my tube amps to musical charities.
Probably one of the best videos I’ve seen you put out. Thanks for sharing
Mike you’re so fun to listen to and your honest curiosity is heartwarming. Keep it coming!
One thing I would highly recommend with a stereo rig like this is to use a pedal like the Duophony to run the pedals in stereo and balance the signals so that the right side isn't pulling more than the left side and also to keep your stereo effects balanced as well.
incredible pedal
Another perfect solution I have is a Allen & Heath ZED 10FX Mixer. Solves all issues and so convenient to feed stereo outs from mixer to sound guy for Front Room sound
The BOSS IR-2 seems like a good bang for the Buck Amp sim pedal and it's the same form factor as the other BOSS pedals which is pretty awesome
Do u have one and if so what's it like?
Check out the boss ir 200
Please forgive my clipped style. But!!! You did the best modeling promo ever. I'm 70, yes older than dirt. And I'll play Praise and Worship this Sunday. Bass, Guitar, any chart. But I sub to 15 Guitar Content UA-camrs. Seriously, this is helpful. You put the chops on the little boxes and we understand!! Thank you sincerely. I may change the makeup of my next gig with a pedal board with simulators.
Ayyy!!!! Happy New Year and Thanks and thanks for sharing!
You’re at 199k!! Go get that 200k, Mike!! How are we celebrating such a massive milestone, dude?!
A few years ago I started acquiring pedals, and I was buying EVERYTHING that came out, from SweetWater, spending 1000s of $s, after being a 2-3 pedal guy for 15 years I went all the way and had a huge, stereo board, with an ACS1 and a Boss IR2 on different boards going into effects loops, etc.
I had a luscious, overkill rig, and it was glorious, but I noticed that with all those options I still yearned for a simpler setup, and my tone wasn’t necessarily better with all those pedals, I just had a shitload of options, most of which I never really used.
Last month I sold most of my gear and went back to a dead simple setup, mono with 5 pedals. I still have the Ir200, and now I get the best tone of my life because I only kept the really good stuff and sold everything else. 1 fuzz, one Od, and a boss DD8. My tone rules now and my OcD can relax because I have a dead simple rig.
I might get t rid of the IR200 eventually and just use an IR2, but I’m happy
Moral of the story: after 20 years of playing I’m back to simplicity, after going on a gear journey, and I’m enjoying guitar now more than I ever jave
Heya. Can I ask what moves the air after the IR2? Do you have studio monitors or something?
Funny how we discover that all that really matters is the music. Notes matter, tone is subjective and ultimately irrelevant. I love big iron and tubes, but the cost, ridiculous weight and their inevitable tone degradation over time is real. Did I mention I despise screens and sub menus ? Lol
This comment could have been minimized as well. Ha! Kidding.
For those of us who have none of the above and are just starting out on electric guitar, what are the first 2 or 3 must haves?
@@chuckdavis5300 A good tuning pedal or clip on tuner.
Dude! You are getting hired somewhere as a media personality. Period. Your intelligence and humor are off the charts.
Yeah agreed. He’s great.
And this is why I got a fractal fm9. All my problems solved! And the best tone I’ve ever had
thanks, it was truly inspiring! Can you please make a video where you explain how to set up a stereo rig with uad pedals? (or explain it ?)
Great vid! Can’t wait to see what kind of stuff you can do with this setup. I stumbled into this type of idea a couple years back.
Mike, I just love your content, your guitar playing skills, the way you break down each subject to every single detail, the way you film these videos. You are doing an incredibly amazing job. I just wanted to say thank you for all this. The goat!!!
Interesting, I think the user interface is a critical aspect. What's the learning curve / time needed before you can get the presets dialed in and are comfortable with what the switches, knobs, sliders, and wheels control relative to the indicators, graphic ICONS, and the sound output, understand when something goes wrong and how to fix it. Who turned my knob?
I really like the style on this video - keeping the guitar riff playing as you speak over the video what you are doing next, plus the clean edits and jumps.
While there will always be some market for full size tube amps - profilers/modellers have been around for a while and have been widely adopted.
These amp-in-a-pedal have slipped in below the price of the big profilers and are a great option for many. (as well as the big rock stars)
A (big-ish) pedalboard with 4 or 5 amps wired in various configurations, plus your favorite pedals that you can take anywhere - with maybe a FRF cab or foldback or IEM so you can hear yourself.
I do love the line about the infinity stones - and I'm sure there will be a full set at some point.
I love your content. I've been a tube amp user for 25 years. I now use a UA Lion, Ruby, and Dream 65 exclusively for playing out. Never going back. When I can't go straight to front of house, I just bring a Line 6 powercab. Cannot beat it.
When you said church gig, I got a big smile. So fun to play live at a church with the whole room singing along. I learned a lot about guitar playing in a church band. Had to lean the Nashville number system quick - pastor would throw out a song you hadn’t prepared and didn’t know. Band leader calls out the chord progression and you go with it
I’m 100% on board with amp sims. I’m about to make the switch myself. 15+ years of lugging amps around is taking its toll lol
Your videos are getting better and better! love the growth man!
I think these pedals sound amazing. Really varied and inspiring tones. Each one is a little world of guitar sounds.
Check out the Simplifier Mk2, it’s completely analog and does fender, marshal and vox. I’ve just bought one and it’s blown my mind!
Dear @Mike Cole Would you be so kind to share the settings you dialed in? Sounded awesome! Cheers
Cool video, love watching your process of discovery. I used tube backbreakers of all sorts, but mostly Mesa Boogie (but are built like and weigh as much as tanks) for three decades. Their amps have the amazing ability to be the cleanest amp in the world and the highest gain and everywhere in between. Then I discovered Kemper in 2019 and haven't looked back. I've literally migrated everything into the Kemper. The only other pieces of gear I run is two Dunlop mini volume pedals - one for well, volume, and the other for Morphing (increasing a parameter like delay in the fly), and a wireless. And when I miss the tube amps, which is rare the Kemper is so close, I plug the Kemper into the effects return of one of them and have the amazing tone of the Kemper through the Tube power section and Celestion speaker.
I'm planning to get a guitar and take lessons in 2024, so I've been using channels like yours to do advance research. It is getting a bit scary to see the learning curve that is ahead, so I guess I better factor in experimentation and patience. Thank you for teaching me something new!
I would suggest a multi effect that sounds good to you, and branch out with individual things you find you like
@@ltmarshmellow5351 Thank you!
Start with a decent acoustic guitar
Don't get too caught up all the gear hype.
1) determine what you really want to do.
Do you want to play electric guitar music?
Do you want to play acoustic guitar music?
That is like choosing between a pedal bike and a motorized bike.
Some stuff will be similar for both but if you have no interest in acoustic guitar, don't start with an acoustic. ( I have taught, gigged and done workshops for 30+ years btw)
2) realize that most folks fail because they don't practice. They just talk, watch videos and buy stuff.
3) set goals. I have friends who have bought guitars for 30 years and can't play a damn thing. Because guitar to them is a status symbol, a social tool and a dreamy make believe escape from reality. They are guitar failures.
4) learn musical terminology.
Your production quality has gotten so good
Considering the studio is supposed to be the ideal scenario and the road is the practical scenario, you'd expect amps to be used more in the studio than live. But Satriani ditched his Marshalls for recording his last album for example. It seems digital has come so far it's good enough and more practical than lugging round a tube amp.
Dang son! Congratulations on hitting 200k before 2024!
I switched to a preamp DI'd into the PA 18 months ago and I haven't looked back. Even with cheap IEMs I hear myself better and it's easier to mix on stage. I've been using the two notes ReVolt. Sounds fine and works well. I sometimes use a FRFR cab if it's a tiny gig but otherwise I'm very happy.
Hey Mike Cole Thanks for doing this Video on Perception of what you think is to come to the future of guitar. I was scared of doing the offering of digital IK Multimedia package of Keys and Amplitube Amps of which I could/would never afford during Covid 2019. Purchasing the AXE Solo NOT buying the IR Modeling product "TONEX" YET. Practice. Happy New Year 2024 to you & ALL
Was not disappointed! You are awesome Mike❤ This was a great video 👍
I just want all the gear, every single thing I can get my hands on. It's a hobby. I'm a metal head thrash lover but I still want to be Stevie Ray Vaughan when I feel like it. I want that Pink Floyd tone sometimes. I love a twangy tele and a SG and a Steve Vai Ibanez. Never stop Mike, just keep learning and enjoying the wonderful gift you have. Constantly evolving and changing setups is part of the fun and joy of what we love.
I played in a small group that would perform at community events and most of the times there were no monitors so I needed an amp to hear myself. I think amps still have a place for budding musicians in unpredictable environments
Why not this + some sort of personal monitor or powered cab?
@@alessandrolugli7850 yes that might work. I was playing mostly with a 5 watt practice amp that was mic'ed.
I recently joined a band and elected to go for a Dream 65 as my amp sound instead of a traditional tube amp. It's much more convenient for our limited rehearsal and recording space, and it will be much more flexible when we start gigging. If direct-in works best for the venue, then we'll be all set. If I need an actual on-stage amp, then I can just plug into a power amp and cabinet!
lol I wanted a Selmer so I could sound like Syd Barrett on Interstellar Overdrive. Ultimately I got a Thorpy Scarlet Tunic instead, pedal chain in tact, straight to DAW. Sure enough, it's the bold sparky electric character I wanted from the Selmer but SILENT NOISE FLOOR, no endless service, electrocution, etc, just "nicer" to own and use in every way. And if I want to crank my stereo to feel it get loud in the room & get kicked out of the house I can. Love it. Effectrode boost & fuzz for true tube compression before it & I'm in heaven.
Digitech RPA300 forever.
Windows 95 Forever!
One of my first digital pedals, was so bummed when it gave out on me 😂
Music wins.😂
I can't wait till Josh Scott tells the Internet how cool the RP150 is (USB out!) so that I can sell mine for 6 times more than I paid for it.
Set aside the actual information; you are an extremely talented speaker and performer. I appreciate your work!
One element you missed: when the Edge is writing songs on tour, in his hotel room, on the bus, he can’t use his vintage amps.
When I was a young man in the 70’s it was hard and expensive to get good tone. Now there are so many good choices. Practice everyone!
great video ....im looking at ordering now......have you ever done a video on your worship pedalboard. Thanks MC
In think we are on a parallel path. I’m now playing a Milkman The Amp 100. It’s the hybrid between going direct and/or with a 1x12 cabinet with a neo creamback. The direct amp sim is really great. And I’m playing with headphones which is moving me to play lighter. And protect my hearing. It’s a whole new world and I dig it.
Your most creative video yet - excellent! We appreciate the hard work 👍
Amp Modeling Pedals vs Neural Amp Sims? Just asking / learning - video rocks! What Camera did you use for making this video?
I have no idea what you are talking about, but I sure did enjoy it!
I stared selling my amplifier and deside to used my Logic Pro x plug-ins to do love performances with two speakers 300 watts and build my own track. It sounds awesome nothing better than my guitar effects library
UA is nice stuff. I feel like the same results can be had with the emerging gear these days for way cheaper though. Well edited and lit video.
You’re right. UA’s power is in their (very good) marketing and the strength of their brand.
U2/Edge had always been a HUGE influence on the effects part of the guitar scene and it makes so much sense he'll be running them live. Also, even though he might have billions of dollars in insurance I think he'd rather not risk his equipment getting bust with how expensive vintage gear are getting now. He already hulls hundreds of effects so a couple more probably is easier for him. Also, Mike I'm loving your improvement in video editing lately and wanted to say looking forward to what you'll be showing us on 2024. Hope you had a merry Xmas, and a great NY to come :D
To a relative newbie could you go over how you system is architected. Guitar to pedal board to a interface to your laptop and then through the computer speakers ? What app are you running on the laptop ? Thanks
Congrats on 200K!!!
It should be noted that Edge’s change was partly due to the particular venue in Vegas and related requirements. That is not a normal building/stage.
I’ve briefly used a Ruby for a set where I had to learn it in about 5 minutes and thought it was okay, but not ideal for my board. If UA made a Hiwatt style I’m sure it would be great…that’s the amp style I built my rig around.
Obviously the convenience of the UAs is hard to beat, doubly so for stereo. I still appreciate real amps, but if it sounds good, it is good.
stereo is a gamechanger, hence why i love the Positive Grid Spark 40
What cable method did you use?? Did you use a splitter box in front of the pedals??
Good info Mike, I always enjoy your videos my friend.
I just got a Boss IR-2 as a Christmas gift to myself. Even though it's the honeymoon period, I have no regrets, it's exactly what the doctor ordered.
I’ve been tempted to get one myself! How have you liked it so far? Any favorite models/settings?
@@notben7 I like it a lot, I've used it to record some demos. My favorite models are the Tweed, Diamond, and High Gain
You know, the edge seems like an old school guy, but he has been open to the new tech. I was amazed to find out one of his favorite distortion boxes was a line 6 drive modeler (like the box of the DL4) he had line 6 build him a custom rack version of the pedal box when it first came out.
I run a Plexi modeler pedal into an Orange amp. It has a nice vintage crunch to it.
Sounds awesome! Great video!
The modeler pedal solution is perfect for people who don’t want infinite options in a single box and an interface that is familiar to “amp people”
Weird Phase issues in there. Gotta be able to flip phase and or delay the signal to one side
Can you explain if these make any sense for home use if home use at low volume is all you do? It seems like you still need a cabinet so would it make sense to go this route if you are ready to step up from something like a Katana? Would the cabinet limit the variety of sounds you would get from these things? I am thinking of getting something like a Vox AC15 but all I hear is that tube amps are eventually going to be gone and tubes are getting harder to get.
A note about your geeked out drive to try all stereo setups: 1) Playing live I enjoy the sound as well. 2) As a mixing engineer I get tracks other artists recorded themselves. 90% of the time I take their stereo tracks and make them mono. Trying to fit stereo in a mix and place everything so it has its' place is just too difficult. That's why EDM can sound huge and lifeless at the same time.
I’m an electronic musician not even a guitarist but I love these videos!
Bro @3:20 - I got the exact same strap on my LP Deluxe. Classy :)
They could never replace a tube amp for me the feeling of a cranked tube amp is so good I don’t even think about switching if I’m ever at the point where cat and convenience are more important to me than tone and feel I might consider these though lol
*cost and convenience
The elephant in the room is this:
Stevie Ray probably didn't use a Fender Twin in his bedroom
Jimi didn't probably use a Marshall stack in his bedroom
Mayer probabably doesn't use a Two Rock in his bedroom
Man! I have sold gear and gigged my whole life and an appropriate amp for a 10,000 seat arena is most likely NOT an appropriate amp for a guy's living room or a tiny club that seats 100 people.
The biz is so saturated with hype and rather non- thinking egos it is laughable.
Folks get over obsessed with gear and tone because it is easier to buy stuff than learn to actually be able to play even the most basic gig or session.
As a guy who has gigged 40+ years, honestly, the clothes you wear and the hat you have on, on stage and how you interact with your audience will be far, far more important to the average audience than how perfect your tone is on stage.
They won't hear that anyway because they are going to hear something totally different because the P.A. and the physical distance they are from your rig changes everything.
Wake up! Learn to play, learn to talk to the audience, learn to network with other players.
Don't get obsessed with gear and chasing some " perfect" amp. It is cruddy excuse to avoid learning how to make music.
Love my dream 65. Got the woodrow in the form of the tweed 55 model running in Luna.
I have the Dream 65 and a 65 Twin Reissue. I use both with my Helix or HX Stop
Love them both!
Next stop is Ruby and Lion
Theyre alot of fun. I own the Dream, but.. youll be back to amps. As soon as a soundman doesnt give ya what you need in the monitors, youll switch back. Now I carry it in my backpack in case my amp goes down, or its a real small, or crappy load in. And it takes pedals well tho, and definitely sounds like a Deluxe.
Dude stereo is the ONLY way to go. Great video.
Got put off their compressor pedal when I realised some of the features needed a phone or laptop to access. I like everything at my fingertips. Thats why old amps persist. Because its at your fingertips. They still sound good though. Cant deny that.
thank you Mike for this video !
What you just prove is that you can get a very classic sound without these very pricy amp.
Happy 2024 and much success to you and your channel!
These amp modeleres always confuse me. Do you still need a pre-amp after these parels or can they go straight to a cabinet?
They cannot go straight into a guitar cab, but they can go straight into a PA system, which singers already use when playing live.
The Edge was up front about WHY he chooses the modelers: he's using them on projects like playing TV gigs where they don't have the time to set up his usual prefered rig, or on things like the Las Vegas show where there's so much more happening than the band that it doesn't make sense to have something like amps and mic to manage if something goes wrong. But he's worked with companies like Line 6 since their very beginning. He's accustomed to working around their limitations. Still, if he were in the studio he'd probably choose real amps, because given the space, time, and access why wouldn't you? I think modelers make sense for a lot of practical reasons in the modern world, and if they make you happy and convince you of a feeling then why not?
I have The Edge Deluxe, and it is beautiful! I can easily see why it would be convenient to carry modelers...but what is he actually recording with? I hear a difference. I feel a difference with the playing dynamics controlling the amp. Maybe it's just me.
Mike…there’s another stone. It’s called the Lion.
Also, I run the Ruby and Dream in stereo and they’re incredible. I have them mounted upside down under my pedalboard.
It could have been the limitations presented by that particular venue, the vegas sphere. There just wasn’t space for all of that gear there.
i guess if your going in that direction then Fenders tone master is what you need
I've been using a Boss ME-90 as my all-in-one solution. The amp models in it are quite good (though I'm sure a dedicated unit would be better), and it's got a very intuitive interface, if you came up playing with stomp boxes. I can also shut off the amp sim, and put something in the ME-90's loop, like, say, a ToneX pedal if I want a different sort of amp (I've got a nice model of a Dr. Z Maz 18, which is also an amp I own, and is obscenely heavy). I can run it into a board, a powered cab, or even an actual amp if it has an effects loop, and always get the sound I expect to get. Which I think is the main thing for me, as I'm a jazz player, and often end up using a house amp, which may or may not be any good.
Tube amps are amazing, but they can be temperamental - especially vintage ones. I can toss the ME-90 into a backpack, and take the ToneX along as a backup for about five pounds, as opposed to 45 or so for a tube amp.
I got the UAFX Dream 65 and I'm waiting for the Lion 68 (Marshall sim). I think those will keep me busy for awhile.
Line 6 pod has the best tones ive ever heard
Smaller scale, but I saw Big Bad Voodoo Daddy last month and the guitarist (Scotty) had the Dream 65 on his board. Sounded amazing in the mix with the horns and rhythm section. Easy for those fly dates too!
I got all 4 the Ruby, dream, and lion sound good with a WDW setup.
first "every u2 song" sounded like TP' american girl to me...
Mike, Hello there, I found to today, 15 mins ago actually and enjoyed your video. Can you post your settings on these pedals as a base line for first timers using these pedals . . . Thanks, Jim
I imagine the edge had his actual vox modelled by universal audio
I love your videos.Its like you're actually talking to me.
Meh. If I’m going to jam with a friend, how does that work? Do I need to bring my laptop and a PA along? If I’m playing at home I assume I need studio monitors and a digital interface? It doesn’t really sound simpler to me. It makes sense for touring, where you will definitely have a PA system and stage monitors. But for home use or small time gigging, to me it seems like more parts. What am I missing?
Since these pedals are already stereo, each on their own, you could easily go WDW and that is a truly addicting sound
Nice! Inspired me to go listen to U2!
A stereo rig does sound amazing , especially when blending different amps tonal characters, but there's still a lot to be said about a mono guitar sound being a discrete part placed in a stereo mix of a whole band. It's not all about the guitar dominating everything and if everything is put into stereo to compete you just end up with two mono mixes panned left and right, and any dynamics just become lost in a wall of everything
I’d pickup one from this series if they had headphone outs. That’s the only feature I think they missed. It’s how I mostly use an ACS-1, can just grab it and play without needing to do any other setup or routing.
As a stereo amp modeler guy. Yes it will become addictive.
Looks super fun.
Mike, check out the Walrus Audio ACS1.
Got all 4 UAD amp pedals plus the Starlight. I don't know...i got the Kemper profiler already for years which sounds awesome. And now that the Kemper Player has hit the market and i bought one, i don't know what to do with all those UAD pedals...I really love them all, but....
I play big amps loud in buildings where the only worship is for a good time, good booze, meeting someone new... and hearing artists challenge your mood with great sounds and grooves.. I play Wet Dry Wet. The wet amps are louder and fed with a stereo image from a J. Rockett Clockwork echo (an idealized Memory Man) The dry is a vintage Deluxe.. tweed in the safer rooms, brown or black in the lower rent areas. -- and I could really see making the dry amp a Woodrow or the AC30 sound from an Iridium. and a PA wedge as the stage sound for it. or even lighter with the dry amp being the real vintage deluxe and the stereo wets being what you have there, a 65 and a Woodrow. - then I need two loud separate powered PA cabs one for each -- see? that's just it. The immersive sound of your amps has to be replaced and in-ears only don't cut it for me. There still has to be a lot of PA wattage giving you a sense of moving air. The last time I played in a church I just brought my Strat and my Deluxe Reverb. I needed nothing else.. and the folks in the pews had eyes welling up with tears. - I think the real amp with quality tubes has more 3D effectiveness on human emotion. I think it has electrons... holy electrons... blessed harmonics. I predict that The Edge will go back to real amps. This is just a phase people are going through. --- That said, this was a fun video! Go through this phase... then go back to real... but be warned... I will have bought up all the good vintage fenders on the Market by then., LOL
The Edge used them only for The Sphere residency.
Hi Mike, what guitar is the peach tele you are playing? Do you have a video about it?
I A/B’d a fully serviced/original 1967 deluxe reverb (through an Apollo etc) against a uad dream and the latter sounded EXACTLY the same if not better.