Jagex Told Me The Secret Behind This $1,000,000 Bot Farm

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  • @SkyGrizzzley
    @SkyGrizzzley 3 роки тому +498

    Botters really do be making more money than J Mods.

    • @sadcat520
      @sadcat520 3 роки тому +36

      jmod 30k a year oh no no no lmaoooooooooooo

    • @Mexican00b
      @Mexican00b 3 роки тому +21

      and thats why any kind of mod is corrupted AF, they get paid more than their yearly salary

    • @nolo70
      @nolo70 3 роки тому +8

      Truth weath left for a reason Cambridge cost living 60-100k jagex here 20k a year

    • @benderbotx
      @benderbotx 3 роки тому +29

      Nah jmods are in on it and get a cut.

    • @clancamper
      @clancamper 3 роки тому +1

      @@Mexican00b i doubt corrupted, more like gotta make money somehow to make ends meet. Cambridge expensive as shit

  • @igelbeatz
    @igelbeatz 3 роки тому +153

    Sir Pugger: exists
    Jagex: free bot-detection software?

  • @ASFALT21
    @ASFALT21 3 роки тому +273

    I wish I made 150k a month with botting on a 2001 browser game.

    • @marksinclair2592
      @marksinclair2592 3 роки тому +11

      It’s a whole organization of people it’s not just one person on it man lol 😆

    • @comenplaysfc
      @comenplaysfc 3 роки тому +20

      @@marksinclair2592 bruh running 100+ bots isn’t that hard if you have a top tier script

    • @pioneerpunts
      @pioneerpunts 3 роки тому +9

      @@comenplaysfc you and what gpu ;'D

    • @Ownage4lif31
      @Ownage4lif31 3 роки тому +9

      150k a month is nothing dude. Back in 2013 it was up to 300-900k a month, depending on how smart you were.
      Bet this blew your mind. Now you know why people bot lmao.

    • @razer0072073
      @razer0072073 3 роки тому

      @@Ownage4lif31 The owner of soul split made a ton

  • @VerfRS
    @VerfRS 3 роки тому +305

    The jewellery could be related to the mass amount of general store/Martin Thwait store selling

    • @SkizVids
      @SkizVids 3 роки тому +14

      an interesting thing i've noticed is that if you have 99 thieving, you have access to a different store.
      so when i trade Martin, the general store is default, but when i jump on an alt, i can see the items the bots are selling

    • @tonywhite7753
      @tonywhite7753 3 роки тому +4

      Jewelerry could be enchanting for mage xp. Or the ham store rooms as I would imagine thats easily botted

    • @davesimms941
      @davesimms941 3 роки тому +8

      @@SkizVids it's the same for all shops that sell skillcapes, like auburys rune shop has separate stock if you have 99 rc

    • @thadramberg6523
      @thadramberg6523 3 роки тому

      They could also alch them if all the stores are overstocked too, doubtful but possible.

    • @MrDJAK777
      @MrDJAK777 3 роки тому +1

      laundering

  • @Juliderdritte
    @Juliderdritte 3 роки тому +42

    They improved their Anti Cheating team? Nah bro, they actually started doing their jobs since you are exposing their trash anti system. This company is a joke compared to what they actually earn.

  • @Maya-uq7tc
    @Maya-uq7tc 3 роки тому +27

    'How do you sell $1m of OSRS gold'
    How do De Beers sell a worlds supply of diamonds?

  • @DarthChewie
    @DarthChewie 3 роки тому +157

    Props to Jagex for starting to invest more in their Anti-Cheating team. If OSRS is going to grow, cutting down on botting needs to be a top priority.

    • @suffer8318
      @suffer8318 3 роки тому +8

      Don't worry they'll stop caring again like usual. So much wrong with this game and so little is done to make it better even after the communities outcry.

    • @PabzRoz
      @PabzRoz 3 роки тому +1

      They don't give af about the game lmao just look at the duel arena yet they do nothing.

    • @Klusje
      @Klusje 3 роки тому

      Bruh bots will always live, they have to in order to make the most profit out of the game. Think about it, most bots are member, membership means income for jagex. No bots means they would lose half their income.

    • @Jin-lx7or
      @Jin-lx7or 3 роки тому

      Economy is beyond fucked already so it really doesn't even matter at this point which is probably another thing that encourages the iron agenda

    • @jeffshackleford3152
      @jeffshackleford3152 3 роки тому

      Other than the terms of service, what makes botting so "bad"?

  • @Shantanushetty33
    @Shantanushetty33 3 роки тому +5

    The one thing I don't understand is why aren't gold farmers being banned? It's not like they're just sitting on their cash. They're selling it.

    • @DadTrees
      @DadTrees 3 роки тому +1

      Some of the like me that don’t rwt:)

    • @Scottagram
      @Scottagram 3 роки тому +1

      Harder to trace human players, and also the ethical dilemma that most gold farmers live in extremely poor countries and Runescape goldfarming is actually their best chance of staying fed.

  • @MrBloodsplatt
    @MrBloodsplatt 3 роки тому +16

    It seems like a trend of how Jagex replys to you. "Ya we totally know about that bot farm", then irl on a staff meeting zoom call " So puggers told me about this farm and we should look at it maybe".

    • @Eternity-l7m
      @Eternity-l7m 3 роки тому

      "Nah we're fine we dont need it , let them make some money"

    • @michaelwagner5836
      @michaelwagner5836 3 роки тому

      The fact that they reply to a UA-cam creator with details on their anti cheating measures but having a dumpster fire four customer support makes me go hmmmmm.

    • @michaelwagner5836
      @michaelwagner5836 3 роки тому +2

      Players needing customer support
      Jagex: lol pass
      UA-camr reaching out about a blog farm
      Jagex: hey here's a bunch of information about our anti cheating measures for you to post a video about. Let us know if we can give you any more information!

  • @KianCortada-Covarrubias
    @KianCortada-Covarrubias 3 роки тому +88

    Damn. Jagex really tricked him into thinking they're actually trying.

    • @rubenk8273
      @rubenk8273 3 роки тому +3

      😂😂

    • @bmvasakis
      @bmvasakis 3 роки тому +4

      why would they wanna ban themselves lol

    • @KianCortada-Covarrubias
      @KianCortada-Covarrubias 3 роки тому +13

      @@bmvasakis seriously. Without botting and real world trading, idk where RS would be right now. I think it would've faded years ago. But its being kept alive by them.

    • @bmvasakis
      @bmvasakis 3 роки тому +4

      @@KianCortada-Covarrubias 200 IQ on jagex's part for coming up with a genius plan lol

  • @DexterityYTC
    @DexterityYTC 3 роки тому +12

    I work my ass off at a 9 to 5 job 5 days a week to barely pay rent and these people are becoming millionaires off of fictional currency. What even is life lmao

    • @0liverr94
      @0liverr94 3 роки тому +8

      yea but the difference between you & them is you keeping it real & these mf's are thieves

    • @neeyorkyankz4355
      @neeyorkyankz4355 3 роки тому

      Edward M. Oliver Jr. something money cant buy too

    • @johnwhite281
      @johnwhite281 3 роки тому +1

      What are they stealing? Lmfaaaaaooooo

    • @jonaskorva2404
      @jonaskorva2404 3 роки тому

      thats because you're a slave like everyone else in this comment section :D Start using your brain and make money

  • @jeremyschorzman636
    @jeremyschorzman636 3 роки тому +43

    Dont forget that 20M mage exp is with a trident which gives small amounts of exp compared to other mage methods.

    • @samasaur6068
      @samasaur6068 3 роки тому +2

      Well reminded

    • @x1Derwin1x
      @x1Derwin1x 3 роки тому

      its half rate so 40m magic xp

    • @Newcxstle
      @Newcxstle 3 роки тому +4

      Exactly, Jagex dont care. There is a stream of mystic zulrah bots in every single world...with thousands of kills each

    • @chuckiswin
      @chuckiswin 3 роки тому

      @@Newcxstle probably jagex employees getting what they deserve... 100k a year.. edit: some more than others ofc

    • @kingchongy1712
      @kingchongy1712 3 роки тому +2

      Plot twist: Jagex running the bots to crash the market

  • @Mrmghz1
    @Mrmghz1 3 роки тому +64

    The only reason these bot farms run is because normal players buy their gold lol

    • @IL_Bgentyl
      @IL_Bgentyl 3 роки тому +1

      Well companies buy stakers gold and then players buy.

    • @dantedeloden
      @dantedeloden 3 роки тому +12

      normal players dont buy their gold, the heavy stakers do.

    • @kingdumbass1582
      @kingdumbass1582 3 роки тому +2

      @@dantedeloden And pvmers

    • @kylewingrove
      @kylewingrove 3 роки тому +1

      @@kingdumbass1582 Yeah, but the staking is a way bigger issue itself anyways idk why Jagex hasn't gotten rid of.

    • @VladiatorX
      @VladiatorX 3 роки тому +3

      What if jagex remove the duel arena from the game, let's see what happens.

  • @Lashazior
    @Lashazior 3 роки тому +91

    25k on death reminds me back in the day when people would do the same with 76k cause of trade restrictions. This was around 2009-2010 or so.

    • @level-III
      @level-III 3 роки тому +5

      ah the coveted 76k trick.

    • @BacTracShorts
      @BacTracShorts 3 роки тому +8

      Anyone else get banned for putting 76k in summing monster then dying F2P pvp worlds?

    • @flaskoflife9044
      @flaskoflife9044 3 роки тому

      good times

    • @zacknesh9368
      @zacknesh9368 3 роки тому

      Back when pvp was broken and complete ass

    • @level-III
      @level-III 3 роки тому

      @@zacknesh9368 pvp is still broken

  • @Pjayb96
    @Pjayb96 3 роки тому +30

    Not going to lie, I burst out laughing at 318B a month 150 Grand a month 1.8M a year.... It's just kind of insane to think about

    • @WhuchakaV
      @WhuchakaV 3 роки тому +14

      Ran by j mods probably. I feel like as a business you would want to nip bots farming gold and gold sellers in the bud. Theres abyssal demon gold farmers with 200m melee combat xp and still not banned.

    • @basedaf5580
      @basedaf5580 3 роки тому +2

      power to em honestly i would do it too if i could make 6 figures, but its a big cat and mouse game

    • @markhacz
      @markhacz 3 роки тому

      @@basedaf5580 truu no difference between that and mtx profits are nuts either way

    • @907living6
      @907living6 3 роки тому +2

      A few months back someone posted on reddit a room of venezaulians all killing zulrah. Old lady had to be 70 was doing it also, this is legit careers for some people in poor countries

    • @Ownage4lif31
      @Ownage4lif31 3 роки тому

      150k a month is nothing dude. Back in 2013 it was up to 300-900k a month, depending on how smart you were.

  • @matg1457
    @matg1457 3 роки тому +20

    My acc was hacked and turned into a Zulrah bot ign is 7 rows. I have 3.5k kc and legit don’t even know the rotations. Got a free pet and mutagen though.

    • @zonkbronk5260
      @zonkbronk5260 3 роки тому

      i quit playing for a while and some time during then i got hacked, when i came back i had nothing, and i didnt notice until the other day i have zulrah kc too, and i also dont know the rotations

    • @rommYh
      @rommYh 3 роки тому +1

      had the same thing happen to me, logged in after a while but had new phone so had to remove 2step... logged in and didn't feel like playin after all, closed the game n logged in 2 weeks later, acc was banned for macroing, luckily got the acc back, although my stacked bank was pretty much empty other than some stuff to kill zulrah with etc

    • @zonkbronk5260
      @zonkbronk5260 3 роки тому

      @@rommYh i luckily didnt get banned or anything, they just used my account for 500 kills then took everything and moved on i guess lol

    • @rommYh
      @rommYh 3 роки тому

      @@zonkbronk5260 yeah, lucky that I got my acc back, heard that usually it's pretty useless to try to get unbanned for macroing, although my account is old enough and i haven't done anything fishy beforehand so I guess that worked out lol

  • @Tantoblade1pd
    @Tantoblade1pd 3 роки тому +58

    How is it everytime you reach out to Jagex they are like "Pugger we were aware of these bots and have been banning them recently" Yet the market reflects they have do little to nothing. I appreciate your efforts, hope you have a good christmas.

    • @Chaylubb
      @Chaylubb 3 роки тому +16

      Just look at it like this, this is what the game looks like because Jagex is working on banning bots. Imagine if they didn't do anything

    • @some1fromfin
      @some1fromfin 3 роки тому +10

      I think it was they ban like 20-30k bots a day, they can never catch all of them

    • @reindert3414
      @reindert3414 3 роки тому +1

      @@some1fromfin 0

    • @Tantoblade1pd
      @Tantoblade1pd 3 роки тому +3

      @@Chaylubb You are right. I know they ban bots, new bot farms creep up all the time and Pugger seems to get the scoop on them..and when he investigates it looks as though they are running at 100% until he reports it to Jagex, then we see the decline happen.

    • @falseshadow1220
      @falseshadow1220 3 роки тому +9

      @@Tantoblade1pd The main reason for this is Pugger uses the general community to help him locate and track down potential bot farms on the ground instead of using account statistics through various anti-bot protocols. Every time a bot farm is shut down the botters come up with a slightly different way of doing things (variety of inputs, account builds, gear setups) to throw people off the trail.
      Think of it like this: ex. There's a drug house down the street. Police rely on data, statistics and evidence in order to identify criminals, which takes time and manpower, and they may not be intimately familiar with that particular street. They then have to follow procedure in order to get permission to shut down the operation. Meanwhile any local resident could tell you "Hey, don't go to that house down the street, it's a drug house" because they've spent a lot of time in that area and know what happens in their neighbourhood.
      Runescape is a big game. It has tons and tons of locations to cover, content to sift through, some of which hasn't been looked at in literally a decade (Salarin the Twisted anyone?) and they have a limited amount of resources and manpower to do it all with. Meanwhile there are thousands of players who could stumble across these bot farms at any time by accident and tell someone like Pugger about it.

  • @dmdblnt1402
    @dmdblnt1402 3 роки тому +20

    Jagex: we have no costumer support
    Also Jagex: we only talk to big youtubers
    No hate, just a joke.

    • @nicksalvatore5717
      @nicksalvatore5717 3 роки тому +3

      It’s true though

    • @DarthChewie
      @DarthChewie 3 роки тому +2

      Lol good point, but at the same time, a quick chat with Sir Pugger is an easy way for Jagex to connect with 200k+ players who like to keep up-to-date with this stuff

    • @alecnolastname4362
      @alecnolastname4362 3 роки тому

      @@nicksalvatore5717
      Very very fucking true.

    • @dmdblnt1402
      @dmdblnt1402 3 роки тому

      @@DarthChewie yea but they also only do it because its for a video.

    • @phillipstewart2031
      @phillipstewart2031 3 роки тому

      Truth

  • @tomstevens9979
    @tomstevens9979 3 роки тому +8

    How is there a bot to do zulrah ? I can’t even do it and I’ve been playing for 2 years 😂

    • @shadowplague4274
      @shadowplague4274 3 роки тому

      2 years? Been playing for 5 years but can't kill Bryophyta

  • @granjerojose
    @granjerojose 3 роки тому +2

    If you look at the price of dragon bones or red chins, you can see a very similar pattern of the price crashing in the last several months. I'm not sure where this is being botted but it seems to be a big issue too.

  • @realglobmaster
    @realglobmaster 3 роки тому +3

    theres been a lot of Motherload mine bots lately taking up the upper area, not sure how long its been ongoing, but i've noticed an abundance of them over the last couple weeks over basically all worlds besides 2.2k, which is already packed with fellow gamers and i'm not tryna mess up their xp rates.
    Do your thing bossman

    • @Swan584
      @Swan584 3 роки тому

      Yeah, they all have full mining otufit too for some reason. seems like they would just convert the nuggets to soft clay instead

  • @RyanStonedonCanadianGaming
    @RyanStonedonCanadianGaming 3 роки тому +42

    These bots 8:54 seem to be bots for
    "w308 anvil" bots.
    They sell battlestaves to buy bars and with those bars make platebodies and those plate bodies are then alched or sold by the main.

  • @cltcomandr6647
    @cltcomandr6647 3 роки тому +35

    They have been tracking them for a few days? This has been happening for months lol

    • @tomboy_kisser
      @tomboy_kisser 3 роки тому +2

      Well over a year*

    • @reecebhx
      @reecebhx 3 роки тому +4

      it means they’d already been tracking the accounts he sent over for a few days, not the entire problem

    • @Redzeths
      @Redzeths 3 роки тому +2

      the mobile botfarm my friend, not the normal one.

    • @Omgiamsotriggered
      @Omgiamsotriggered 3 роки тому +1

      The problem is bot farmers are creative and it takes weeks/months of jagex investigation and in the meantime bots release huge money into the game, then when jagex is onto it bot farmers have already moved somewhere else to a new method. I dont wanna publicly desecreate anyone but there have been jagex employees who have been linked to RWT in the past, so it woudnt be a surprise if anyone was on it, since they get paid low wages.

  • @ThreeMusketeersGaming69
    @ThreeMusketeersGaming69 3 роки тому +24

    **20 Years from now**
    Everyone on the server is a bot except for you
    _Cue matrix realization_

  • @PabzRoz
    @PabzRoz 3 роки тому +22

    Hey Pugger, since you're so buddy buddy with Jagex why don't you talk to them about the real problem in the game. This is chump money compared to the duel arena. Stakers make more then triple this on the black market. It's the most toxic part of runescape by far. That's where Jagex needs to focus their attention for real. Gambling addiction is so bad over there people are putting up there actual mortgage to stake more gold. Our boy KempQ is getting death threats, hitman threats, swatting threats, just for exposing them while others actually were swatted in the past. It's only getting worse meanwhile Jagex puts all there effort in these bot farms that just keep spawning no matter what they do.

    • @jeffshackleford3152
      @jeffshackleford3152 3 роки тому +1

      There is no problem in the arena itself, other than the last hit mechanic. The problem is the people who are playing the game. The game itself is not inherently good or bad.

    • @AJ42069
      @AJ42069 3 роки тому +1

      Thats not a real problem in the game bro, these botters are crashing ingame items overall , duel arena is all gp to gp and isnt crashing items…… if the botters get banned then no gold to be sold to gamblers……

  • @Dakotadud13
    @Dakotadud13 3 роки тому +2

    Sir pugger: these be bots
    Jagex: you mean the ones wearing the same stuff with really similar stats yeah we been tracking them
    Sir pugger: then do something?
    Jagex: ok

  • @mackie_p
    @mackie_p 3 роки тому +10

    Damn, Pugger and FlippinOSRS are on the same upload schedule 🤙🏼

  • @DordYT
    @DordYT 3 роки тому +2

    I was doing a quest in edgeville dungeon and i noticed what seem like bots running through the gate entering the wilderness area. They all have a random smattering of stats with high magic levels and around 65 to 75 combat. They all seem to be using air staffs.

    • @glerk7161
      @glerk7161 3 роки тому +1

      air orb bots? they've been a thing for a long time

  • @nomissiontodifficult3054
    @nomissiontodifficult3054 3 роки тому +13

    i really wanna know how many players are real on osrs seems like every player i come across is a bot nowadays

    • @plamshaw
      @plamshaw 3 роки тому

      Facts

    • @caleb7631
      @caleb7631 3 роки тому

      unless you are going to very specific spots, its unlikely you're seeing bots. Unless you are f2p only man mode, then yeah probably all bots.

    • @mistabean3533
      @mistabean3533 3 роки тому

      2b for?

  • @zylle1993
    @zylle1993 3 роки тому +6

    This just shows how many people actually buy gold..

    • @parva7152
      @parva7152 3 роки тому

      I remember Jagex said half the playerbase have bought gold

  • @MariusNinjai
    @MariusNinjai 3 роки тому +3

    can't they track the mass creation of account and track them from the start?

    • @Real.eKolin
      @Real.eKolin 3 роки тому

      IP flagging is rumoured to be a thing in botting community, altho I've met some serious farmers telling to me as a friend that they don't bother w IP changing methods since the ban rate seems to not change. Altho common practice is to proxy every account that's botting the same thing to prevent chain bans

    • @sander7701
      @sander7701 3 роки тому

      @@Real.eKolin and what about hardware bans?

    • @Real.eKolin
      @Real.eKolin 3 роки тому

      @@sander7701 HWID's are rumoured to not matter, but I still would tend to switch it up since it's really an easy hindrance to deal with.

  • @MiissMandii
    @MiissMandii 3 роки тому +4

    better video than the last one, at least you're not exposing my money makers this time.

    • @kylewingrove
      @kylewingrove 3 роки тому

      I get so annoyed when I have a small unknown one and then a UA-camr crashes it 🙄 😒

  • @Skeife
    @Skeife 3 роки тому +2

    So Ridge Wallets are the new RAID SHADOW LEGENDS it seems. Literally had 5 different videos all advertise them to me in the last hour.

  • @TheToxiicLover
    @TheToxiicLover 3 роки тому +5

    if you go to sand crabs, either the one zeah or fossil island there are so many bots getting ready to be sold.

    • @Eternity-l7m
      @Eternity-l7m 3 роки тому

      Most of them its vennies training accs

  • @makiabraa9285
    @makiabraa9285 3 роки тому +21

    Genius love the hustle 150k a month thats whats up gotta respect the grind.

    • @felix1306
      @felix1306 3 роки тому +3

      @@azurekify What?

    • @edison4608
      @edison4608 3 роки тому

      @@azurekify a bot charge them...

    • @TheSuperSwain
      @TheSuperSwain 3 роки тому +1

      I need to get in on this

    • @gtfobuddy21
      @gtfobuddy21 3 роки тому

      @@azurekify imagine not listening to him saying they run on emulators on pc

  • @InlineHD
    @InlineHD 3 роки тому +10

    Please, bring The Great Reset to OSRS. All the bots have COVAIDSSS ... Please !>.

    • @gtfobuddy21
      @gtfobuddy21 3 роки тому

      Go play a new account and get base 60/70s and let me know how you liked that. Now, look at it this way. As a business forcing your entire community for 1 portion of the game to restart because of economic reasons will absolutely see significant drops in active players. Then you get people LIKE YOU whining about the game dying when you are the one that wanted exactly what would kill the game

    • @InlineHD
      @InlineHD 3 роки тому +4

      @@gtfobuddy21 Well actually, you argument is bullshit because Jagex has cleared out so many problems in the past that it must be inevitable to bot nowadays. With that being sad it will literally be the best promotion for OSRS in ages done + it alligns with the current global financial situation. Probs the 3rd world countries will feel a huge pain in the ass, but for us it will be like the world restarted.

    • @Horlogemannetje
      @Horlogemannetje 3 роки тому +1

      @@InlineHD Imagine 😱

    • @huseyinyuksel2174
      @huseyinyuksel2174 3 роки тому

      Probs would be hell

  • @yx5367
    @yx5367 3 роки тому +1

    Hi! We're trying to make OSRS in VR! Look up Lumbridge VR or Varrock VR
    Crumb we're hoping to help us get more eyes on the project and people willing to help. SoupRS made the original coverage videos but I'm hoping for a follow up too with the specific request of getting help from the community.
    Would you do similar? We have some ideas like an HD toggle, and using Unity to have an MMORPG style multiplayer instead of the current singleplayer mod only for Blade and Sorcery VR.

  • @Nightstick24
    @Nightstick24 3 роки тому +4

    I'm happy to see you connecting with Jagex, and it's a great move on their part, I think. For you, it makes your videos a whole magnitude larger in scale, there's only so much one person can speculate from a third person perspective - surprisingly more than I would have imagined though, insane props to you for managing to do so much - so with Jagex's help you can really give a wider view of the subject.
    And for Jagex, it's free advertisement that despite what it might feel like, they ARE making progress and doing something, it's just such an absolutely gigantic issue that it can be difficult to see change on such a small, zoomed-in scope.
    Overall I've enjoyed your more recent videos even more than I already did. I love how you relate everything you're talking about in the videos to several other different things to make what you're talking about more understandable. When you're into the hundreds of billions and other gigantic numbers like that it's way too big for me to actually comprehend, but when you break it into items, gold/hour, real money made, accounts run, levels, K/C, and price changes in items it becomes something I can visualize more. Just wanted to say that I appreciate the effort put into explaining this stuff in so many different ways, including visually with graphs and graphics, it doesn't go unnoticed and it's very much appreciated!
    Keep up the super interesting content, everytime I get the notification that you've uploaded a new video I can't wait to watch it!

  • @WhasianCTK
    @WhasianCTK 3 роки тому +1

    Great video! Can you look into a crafting guild bot tanning dragonhide? bots spotted: ZXFGX9808908, Hijab Queen1. Both have 99 crafting and nothing else and are constantly at w2 crafting guild tanning hides.

  • @aldenredwine2721
    @aldenredwine2721 3 роки тому +8

    When u watch this and realize it’s prob smart to buy and extra BP just in case it gets more expensive 😂

    • @nate9626
      @nate9626 3 роки тому

      Same 😂

    • @aldenredwine2721
      @aldenredwine2721 3 роки тому

      @@nate9626 stonks my guy straight stonks

    • @GhraziRapier
      @GhraziRapier 3 роки тому

      150 iq already bought 17 blowpipes

    • @aldenredwine2721
      @aldenredwine2721 3 роки тому

      @@GhraziRapier next level stonks hahaha wish I had money like that haha let’s just pray it works in our favor 😂🤙🏼

    • @chuckiswin
      @chuckiswin 3 роки тому +1

      I been grinding zulrah lately. I have 250k stack of scales i'm holding until these bots start going.

  • @ohkaythen93
    @ohkaythen93 2 роки тому +1

    I know that there are some insane programmers in the world. Machine learning and AI is now a very real thing. I would suggest that there are hundreds, if not thousands of accounts, being controlled not by an injection client, or a typical program like dreamboat, but by fully customised software, undetectable.

  • @SidorioRS
    @SidorioRS 3 роки тому +7

    The rs3 bots are collecting cursed energy up to a value of 25k. In order to prevent RWT, jagex implemented some kind of system that makes so you only drop 25k at a time in gold whenever you are pked for any value 25k or higher.

    • @S3lvah
      @S3lvah 3 роки тому

      Yea there's been cursed energy gathering bots for a good while now, though I didn't realize they were also getting themselves killed on purpose.

  • @Swan584
    @Swan584 3 роки тому +1

    Theres also a massive bot farm at demonic gorillas. It goes unnoticed because not many people camp gorillas, just go there for slayer. The bots wear normal void (lol) and some have nezzy helms and full karils. All use whips and blowpipes. They all act the same way and bank at ferox enclave and never alc anything. Zenytes have crashed to 10m because of this

  • @BTChanOSRS
    @BTChanOSRS 3 роки тому +3

    Finally my 600M zulrah scales merch is gonna MOON
    :-D Go BANNWAVE go

  • @Hemels_Breed
    @Hemels_Breed 3 роки тому +1

    I just noticed that the price of Zulrah's scales went up from 145 to 176 between December 8th and December 13th, which is a price increase of well over 20%.. coincidence?

  • @suffer8318
    @suffer8318 3 роки тому +5

    It's shameful seeing this. Shameful that Jagex let it get this bad. Everything that could go wrong is going wrong with OSRS it's literally the most dead "alive" game.

  • @Gimme_Noodles
    @Gimme_Noodles 3 роки тому +1

    Found a zulrah bot today lol
    RSN : mymoneyyy - 11k KC with similar stats you stated
    EDIT : Any suspected bots I'll post their RSN below
    Namaste3

  • @Jett211182
    @Jett211182 3 роки тому +3

    I have no idea what is going on in these videos but I really like watching them.

  • @mikewilton4872
    @mikewilton4872 3 роки тому +1

    It's obvious though that these bot detections are always too late. SirPugger puts up the amounts of GP that the mules are banned with and it's always relatively small compared to the scale of the farm. I guess they could be getting caught really early in their operations but it seems more likely that they have already offloaded billions and billions of GP.

  • @gdiddly3957
    @gdiddly3957 3 роки тому +14

    Imagine......Working for Jagex and learning everything.
    From what I've seen of Jagex jobs going on average earnings of around £40k per year.
    If an employee just so happens to leave and utilise this knowledge to generate Hundreds of thousands per month what.......OH WAIT that already happened.

    • @kimjong-un5562
      @kimjong-un5562 3 роки тому +1

      That probably doesn't include bonuses .

    • @Settings404
      @Settings404 3 роки тому +1

      Making money from botting is not sustainable at all. It's also not consistent money

    • @gdiddly3957
      @gdiddly3957 3 роки тому

      @@Settings404 you think if you earned over a Million pounds for a year you'd be to worried about the longevity of your chosen job?
      Personally I think it would be milked until it wasn't possible anymore, considering the UK average for wages is around £35k

    • @Settings404
      @Settings404 3 роки тому

      @@gdiddly3957 I doubt they made $1 million in a year. Do you know how hard it is to sell $1 million worth of gp? Also the legalities of the money is super sketchy

    • @gdiddly3957
      @gdiddly3957 3 роки тому

      @@Settings404 That's why Crypto currency is on the majority of GP buying/selling sites.
      This conversation is based on the lower end of the estimated earnings, so think of how many people are actually farming.
      I would say 1 million is not ludicrous nor un obtainable, after all that's why botting has never stopped because it is some what sustainable.
      There will always be a market for GP/Accounts and services.

  • @nsahandler
    @nsahandler 3 роки тому +1

    Yo pugger I know it's in your best interest to maximize possible values, but you're forgetting to zero out pre-farm stat building in your final cost analysis.
    Time spent leveling up is not time spent farming.

  • @Dafuro
    @Dafuro 3 роки тому +3

    The old man speaking like he's going to give me a bunch of useless facts about fromsoftware games

    • @SkorYT
      @SkorYT 3 роки тому

      That was my first thought too lmao. Same AI voice I guess

  • @alexxa5584
    @alexxa5584 3 роки тому +1

    Mass resource bosses like Zulrah and Vorkath never quite sat right with me. Same with revenants, etc.

  • @70percentAdvertising
    @70percentAdvertising 3 роки тому +13

    "Why TF are you asking me? 😁 Great way to mix in the promo 👍

  • @alljustadream5051
    @alljustadream5051 3 роки тому +1

    Buff Zulrah, add mandatory random events b4 u fight zulrah and add total levels requirements like base 60 stat.

  • @Keirandal_Chikage
    @Keirandal_Chikage 3 роки тому +3

    The jewelry is probably serving the dual purpose of selling to general stores and boosting mage levels to repurpose the bots once theyve trained, low gp mage xp

    • @SirSoloSoul
      @SirSoloSoul 3 роки тому

      Just got 99 magic and cant wait for people to say I botted or something stupid 👍

  • @liamreid8563
    @liamreid8563 3 роки тому +1

    fuck all my hand done zulrah kills would be so much more money if it werent for these fucking things, would be so much more worth it to do zulrah

  • @pinkrunebear
    @pinkrunebear 3 роки тому +4

    5:00 So the bots were farming Zulrah as soon as they were created? That's impressive

  • @0XD00mX0
    @0XD00mX0 2 роки тому +1

    2 years later. 99% of the people at zulrah are bots with 20k+ kills. How the fck dont they get banned?

  • @luminica_
    @luminica_ 3 роки тому +11

    The wilderness bots are likely cursed energy bots due to combat level differences, the bots are being killed and drop 25k since they never had membership. It is probably random players killing the bots as there isn't really much value in botting to die this way.

    • @ahmadashoori5988
      @ahmadashoori5988 3 роки тому

      No, ive been bot hunting the past few days in rs3 and i came across small groups of bots lvl 10 wearing a cosmetic iron 2h right at the wilderness ditch. When i stood around them in the wildy they all logged out. I hopped to another world and the same thing happened. These were on legacy mode worlds i guess to try and hide themselves better. All the bots ive seen in the wildy have been in legacy worlds since sirpugger called out the rs3 dupe

  • @KHANSTER1029
    @KHANSTER1029 3 роки тому +1

    I think there's a bit of an error at 4:57 regarding playtime. They didn't spend 324 hours killing Zulrah - they will spend a portion of those hours leveling up and completing Underground Pass.

    • @cannonpalms4249
      @cannonpalms4249 3 роки тому

      negligible compared to the time spent at zulrah

  • @AppalachianAnd
    @AppalachianAnd 3 роки тому +5

    Ruined my money maker now how am I to feed the wife n kids

  • @garryoak
    @garryoak 3 роки тому +2

    Plot twist Jagex won't ban all bots because that's how they make their irl money.

  • @hofmans2397
    @hofmans2397 3 роки тому +3

    Notification squat 😁

  • @jankohhlaj6434
    @jankohhlaj6434 3 роки тому +1

    Bro it puts me into depression. I feel like osrs is dying

  • @ThePingomartin
    @ThePingomartin 3 роки тому +3

    The rs3 bots use items with overpriced values and walks to edge behind ge

    • @CluelessRebel
      @CluelessRebel 3 роки тому

      Yeah I've seen them multiple times. And the damned cursed energy bots as well.

  • @infamousgamer8721
    @infamousgamer8721 3 роки тому +1

    Vorkath is being heavily botted atm, as well as rune dragons. Please investigate!!

  • @codybujnowski814
    @codybujnowski814 3 роки тому +2

    sounds like jagex needs more mods working on the issue.

  • @killastr1433
    @killastr1433 3 роки тому +1

    As a rs3 player there's a bot farm at revs. The second they see you, the second they telly.

  • @KihiraLove
    @KihiraLove 3 роки тому +2

    SirPugger is a LimitBreakers fan confirmed?

  • @qwerty49424
    @qwerty49424 Рік тому +1

    I have a feeling there's only like 5 to 10% real players left

  • @osrsguardyyy4125
    @osrsguardyyy4125 3 роки тому +4

    Crazy how Jagex is already looking into a bot farm after you tell them about it. I hate that you do their job for them man. Jagex pay this man.

    • @maxb2000
      @maxb2000 3 роки тому +1

      I'd bet he's making a lot more off youtube than if he were working at Jagex. They are notorious for underpaying their employees

  • @glerk7161
    @glerk7161 3 роки тому +2

    There's a small botfarm at the warrior's guild food shop buying out plain pizzas and cheese potatoes

  • @apexclanosrs6379
    @apexclanosrs6379 3 роки тому +4

    Also no one is sub'd because you have 2 many adds. Thanks.

  • @laviniamexico2573
    @laviniamexico2573 3 роки тому +1

    99% of this cancer wouldnt exist if you people didnt buy gold

  • @Tzuurp
    @Tzuurp 3 роки тому +3

    Why do I even play anymore when there are all these bots? No point. Rip OSRS

    • @yorick27
      @yorick27 3 роки тому

      Don't play.

    • @yorick27
      @yorick27 3 роки тому

      You play for fun, if you aren't having fun you shouldn't play.

    • @Tzuurp
      @Tzuurp 3 роки тому

      @@yorick27 the moment i stop having fun with it, ima be done with it - looks like its that time

    • @mymindworks6625
      @mymindworks6625 3 роки тому +2

      With you on that one, RS3 ironman is the way to go IMO. Self sufficient, quality of life changes, never relying on manipulated markets.. I'd do OSRS ironman but fuck carrying a tinderbox, a chisel, rope, hatchet, hammer for a fucking quest, RS3 has a toolbox that takes up 0 inventory space.

    • @Tzuurp
      @Tzuurp 3 роки тому

      @@mymindworks6625 A friend of mine irl said the same thing to me so i'll give it a try

  • @jamesstevens7685
    @jamesstevens7685 2 роки тому +1

    Make a video on these people who sell the bots and shut them down !

  • @supportmytroups7
    @supportmytroups7 3 роки тому +4

    “How does this botter have 100 phones” made me laugh. I’m a phone seller with 100 phones next to me

    • @maxwelljames3573
      @maxwelljames3573 3 роки тому

      U should explore botting 😁

    • @jesenican306
      @jesenican306 3 роки тому

      bluestack program..you can run as many as android versions on pc as you want...

    • @TheDendran
      @TheDendran 3 роки тому

      @@jesenican306 "you can run as many as android versions on pc as your pc can handle"
      -fixd that for you

  • @brandondombrowski1497
    @brandondombrowski1497 3 роки тому +1

    As someone who visits Zaff almost daily, can confirm that his store is usually out of battlestaves, or at least not at full stock. Always figured it was bots.

  • @RebelliousAudio
    @RebelliousAudio 3 роки тому +3

    06:57 was that 67 hours a day or 6 to 7 hours per day? :’)

  • @spencer2069
    @spencer2069 3 роки тому +1

    Don’t worry SirPugger, I’m subscribed 👍

  • @joshpoole2699
    @joshpoole2699 3 роки тому +2

    Multiple lvl 3 accounts running to the earth altar from varrock bank.

  • @solidale21
    @solidale21 3 роки тому +1

    Shouldn't Jagex just hire you at this point?

  • @InfurnalBork
    @InfurnalBork 3 роки тому +1

    There's still tons of bots in motherlode mine, pretty easy to spot the players with a rune pickaxe but with 90+ mining. Seeing the same names forever with them getting 100+ mining is pretty sad honestly. Just there mining basically 24/7 even at 3 AM 3+ every world.

  • @joelmooner69
    @joelmooner69 3 роки тому +1

    This effects us, the real players by so much. These zulrah bots (all bots ) ruin our profits by inflating the market with these goods. So sad that I cant make as much gp because of this.

  • @benbruce7381
    @benbruce7381 3 роки тому +1

    Hey SirPugger, I have a tip for you. When presenting products or front-facing viewers, make sure you look into your camera lens and not at your screen! :)

  • @patrickormerod3472
    @patrickormerod3472 3 роки тому +1

    jagex doesnt care about bots the proof is the spam bots multiple on every world at ge that still arent banned 1 week later spamming the same scripts

  • @TripStter
    @TripStter 3 роки тому +1

    PLEASE PUT THE SPOTLIGHT ON THE RC BOTS... 1-3 MOST WORLDS, EVERYTIME THEY GET TO EDGE, THEY’LL PAUSE 2 SQUARES SOUTH OF THE MOST SOUTHERN BANK!

  • @MrJaZzLeX
    @MrJaZzLeX 3 роки тому +1

    Why don’t bots with 99+ thieving get banned at master farmers??

  • @cody6584
    @cody6584 3 роки тому +1

    Jagex owns all the bots and the gold selling websites lowkey

    • @rubenk8273
      @rubenk8273 3 роки тому

      They jmods are probably, you only earn about 30k a year from working at jagex, a good modfarm makes you 100k a year

  • @jessesmith2326
    @jessesmith2326 3 роки тому +1

    Yea bro .. I killed zulrah for first few times recently and i couldn't help but notice all those bots with a similar pattern of movement and names.. Stayed for a half hour just reporting a dozen or so bots in one world

  • @WakeUpUniverse66
    @WakeUpUniverse66 3 роки тому

    Crafting Amulets is a good way to train magic and crafting and smithing if you buy the gold bars and go from scratch, maybe those bots did that just to get Reqs without having to lost profits.

  • @zylle1993
    @zylle1993 3 роки тому +1

    Look at soups video where he kills himself to make profit in wildy. Some items are so low in value that you can buy them and get the profit from the drop

  • @FinnishEasterPudding
    @FinnishEasterPudding 3 роки тому +1

    this is the reason I quit the game. The economy is ruined and its impossible to make any money without insane requirements.

    • @nickthompson1812
      @nickthompson1812 3 роки тому

      Why would you need a lot of money if the whole economy is tanking?

    • @FinnishEasterPudding
      @FinnishEasterPudding 3 роки тому

      @@nickthompson1812 Thats a good point tho :) .... It just had a nice feeling to it to make 3m/h at zulrah you know :D

  • @slumy8195
    @slumy8195 3 роки тому +1

    this game will and always will be played to rwt I remember making a post about this 5 yrs ago on the subreddit and surprise it got removed. As you see today truth prevails play something else.

  • @PopADoseYo
    @PopADoseYo 3 роки тому

    I remember the first bot script I made for RSbot. Which eventually changed into Powerbot.
    It was a Yanille Iron Ore mining & Banking bot.
    The best Iron Ore bot before dungeonneering existed.
    Jager loves their bots. Ran it every day for around 8-10 hours. Never banned. Not even a year after. 100% believe bots are even used to keep a stable economy. People are fighting a battle that will never be won and it won't change anything in the long run.

  • @Ownage4lif31
    @Ownage4lif31 3 роки тому

    You'd have to be crazy if you think they are running mobile bots. The cost to run these will make you break even.
    100% emulation of mobile client (not bluestacks, not an android emulator) I'm talking completely reversed either headless or just spoofing via the desktop client, on the desktop pc. Reversing it wouldn't be too difficult, and many have already done it before. Seems this person got too cocky and started to mass and make it too obvious.

  • @Shellcool
    @Shellcool 3 роки тому

    >as you can see I have a cursor on mobile RuneScape
    >Implying you can't plug a mouse into a phones USB port or buy a Bluetooth mouse
    I actually play War robots on an emulator from time to time because it's better than the phone controls
    Pretty sure Bluetooth/plug in mouse and keyboard has been a thing since Android 3.0, if you have a modern Samsung go to your box and grab the usb Type C male to usb type A female and plug your PC's mouse in, is funny

  • @silverwar33
    @silverwar33 3 роки тому

    the jewelry could be from any activity or simply bought right now cut zenytes are 15mil and onyx 1.5 and shards(zenyte) 10.6m so its 2-3mil profit making cut zenyte and not making it into jewelry im ofc going by runelite prices that track ge trades from people that use the same client comon thing that was oldschool back in day is cutting gems useing them on furnace for unstrung jewelry like non finished str amulets no balls of wool then alching this could be something similer for the crafting experience thought id give u heads up im geussing they are using the jewelry to lvl up

  • @AnxietyLad
    @AnxietyLad 3 роки тому

    Hey sir pugger,
    I don’t know if you’ve answered this before, but I want to hear your opinion on these bots/membership and with jagex actually banning them, or kinda over looking them/avoiding them in some way.
    When there’s 100 bots doing a specific farm on a membership accounts it’s a lot of money for jagex to lose a month, and that’s only one specific bot farm and we know there is a lot more that we are aware of.
    You seem to be finding these bot farms so easily, wether it’s tips from other people or you finding them yourself, it’s clear they’re easy to find, are jagex to busy with other things? Not enough employees to track them down? I’m just really curious because there are so many bots in the game, are they actually happy to lose so much money in the process to keep the real players happy because the bots are ruining the item values etc, thanks!