do you what do you think about virtual desktop Hand tracking and could you make a video about that for the quest 2/3? (emulating vr controller with hand tracking)
I've an RTX 3090 ti, I got linksys Hydra 6e and I run DCS using OpenComposite to disable SteamVR without any problem and wireless. I set in the Oculus app the resolution to be at 1.3. A very decent graphic setting in DCS but keeping the resolution for the monitor low because I don't care about it. I use a sharpening of 75% in virtual Desktop and another 60% in OpenXr in game, not sure who has priority and how a double setting actually behave. I disabled the function described in this video and even in the Gulf map I get between 70 to 80 FPS.
Sorry guys, did you get better resolution with VD than wired?!? I am on a 4090 so godlike is possibe i think, with cable maxing out to 1.4 the res on oculus software it is not cristal clear in the distance
It’s really a gamechanger for me with MSFS. I couldn’t play it 2 years ago because of the artifacts but now it works very well in normal scenarios while still looking stunning. DCS is also on my list but those simulators always take so much time to set up and learn 😅
How is SSW now compared to Meta's ASW? With meta airlink i have managed to get 72fps in most singleplayer scenarios in dcs but with use of dlss. Now wondering if SSW would have less motion blur than dlss it would be nice to use, and turn off dlss.
i use these settings too,but i use godlike 120fps and ssw always enabled... its Great! with Microsoft flightsimulator i need to go 72fps and ssw always(but it does runs great this way)
The best performance boost you can do is change the VR Bitrate. The default 200mbps is way way too high and causes nasty stuttering and poor frame timing. At least for normal builds. God tier PCs can probably handle it I would highly recommend starting at 70mbps. Frame tiem greatly improves and stuttering goes away. Outside of that, other settings are great
fyi, i have an R5 5500 cpu and found that i sometimes get stutters with my bitrate set too high due to cpu bottleneck. i reduced it from 150mps to 72mps and it smoothed out.
Last time i tried ASW the ghosting effect when passing other aircraft at speed really annoyed me. So I dropped some settings and run full fat 72fps. Maybe i should try ASW again
how do you record the video when you playing DCS with VD? i was using OBS but it was very lag.( only the recorded video is lag, the game was totally OK.i'm using 4090 so the hardware should not be the problem)
I'm getting 60 fps and honestly the game runs amazing and everything is way clearer then before, my only issue and the reason why i cant play like this is because every time i drastically move my head the game fails to load in the same speed, i know my description may sound contradicting but this is really the case for me, if anyone experienced similar or of anyone has any ideas on what i should configure i would gladly take some tips
So is anyone having issues with trying to boot dcs with quest 3 and being able to load the game? Apparently there was a new update and messed thing up with open xr. Can someone help?
thanks for you video, Seeking advice from you: I use Quest 3 + VD for wireless streaming to play DCS. I've tried to lower the in-game settings of DCS as your last video, and currently, the frame rate and effects are basically satisfactory. However, occasionally the 3D image on the Quest headset freezes while the image on the computer screen remains visible. I have no choice but to force quit the game. It's very annoying, especially when trying to view the map with F10 during big missions. I've already dedicated a great game wifi6 router for the computer and Quest headset, with the computer connected via Ethernet cable. It's confirmed to be a gigabit network. I wonder if you have encountered this situation? The VD image quality is great, but it's just not stable. It's very frustrating. Thank you all for your help! My Computer specs: i5 12600 + 4060ti + 32GB RAM.
Explain to me why my quest controllers don't work in dcs. I play via virtual desktop and openxr. The game loads as VR, but in the menu I can only use the PC mouse to click, and when I uncheck the PC mouse option, it loads my Headseat as a mouse and the controllers still don't work. Of course, all game menu controller options are enabled. So maybe you know what the problem is?
Well I decided to give this a go using the Quest 2 and it didn't really work that well for me. After undoing everything in the video and even deleting virtual desktop from my headset and PC, DCS crashes on startup every time in VR. I've tried Air Link vs Cable, SteamVR vs Oculus, DCS by itself with none of my other settings or apps, nothing works. I'm lost because the game worked perfectly fine beforehand. Any help would be appreciated.
It is caused by a conflicting auto update by oculus. There are old oculus logs that you can install to revert the update and get DCS to run again. ED won't fix this for probably a few weeks unfortunately.
Yeah..Meta should do a lot of things lol they should literally put this guy in charge of their entire VR enterprise and fire half of their “yes” people inside their teams. Their technical push has been great but the software side is a dumpster fire.
v63 messed it up. I have quest 3 and dont like using steam VR just launch oculus and then dcs in MT, but it just gives up.... its the update but ED is working on a fix but they dont know when it'll be ready.
sorry noob here. but how do you have the quest connected to your PC? via Cable or via Wifi. Is virtual desktop also needed when you connect via cable? thanks
Hey, kinda new to this myself. I have learned a few things though. Quest 3 is what I have. There are primarily 3 ways to play DCS for vr. He warned though, that over the last month or so there was a Quest 3 update that prevents using the quest 3 vr headsets. Back to the ways to use vr. 1, you can use a virtual desktop, a third-party application that you can buy to install on your desktop and headset. The way though you connect your headset to your p.c. virtual desktop is by wifi. Due to the graphics of dcs you need a excellent connection to your wifi. This most of the time requires updating your wifi. I bought a special wifi device to accommodate this, I just do not think it is worth the cost at this point. The second way is to connect the headset to the computer via the Quest 3 application, which is called airlink I believe, it also requires an excellent wifi connection but is not as strong as the virtual desktop. The third way to connect is via a USB direct connection to your p.c. to do this you need a special cable. Special because it needs to be able to handle at least 2.5gb through put. Any more questions let me know.
@@bg.k.7000 thanks for the reply and info. Also found this: ua-cam.com/video/Gbfi9gwAffA/v-deo.htmlsi=96O7hBUm_pgI-LSI. So Virtual Desktop seems better but means wifi. Not sure what is the best way for wifi. Maybe this d link wifi dongle connected to your pc. Its weird that a link cable is not better than wifi. Actually have DCS up and running now, pretty decent, even with not so good wifi. Only when i enable the hands in Cockpit, the controls start to lag a lot. Without hands and using the mouse, things are smooth
And this guide is pretty good too. Seems not needed anymore to use the --force openxr command. And the composite i dont have. ua-cam.com/video/C799qSimMd4/v-deo.htmlsi=iPC1r47B80fQwcfg
Excellent! what are your in-game settings or is there a video I can watch to check em out? I like to think I've gotten my settings fleshed out but always willing to try how someone else has it setup!@@laubox
@@coookalothanks for the comment buddy. I have a settings guide, however I have bumped up my settings as I only aim for a 55 fps when playing in reprojection.
Calbe or wifi all do compress image. With wifi 6e bandwidth and latency is not a issue as on a cable. Tested both solution. But now VD hass better SSW that ASW oculus...
using the Quest Link is pretty good on it's own and spending 20 bucks on something else just seems silly to me. How is this better than a wired connection? I'm guessing its subjective because my DCS looks great and runs well too with the Link cable.
It's typically more stable then the meta software. Both ways you are encoding and decoding it. In theory the wired connection should be better but in my experience virtual desktop provides a better experience and more encoding options
V63 ruined DCS for me, i only use oculus app on quest 3 and launch DCS steam in MT but now I'm forced to use steamVR, virtual desktop both of which jitter.
Standalone VR is bad for racing and military avia simulators. Racing - latency. Avia - compression alone, so SSW is extra problem (single plane visibility). Get G2 ;)
Why on earth use virtual desktop ? - use direct link PCVR ! .. a hell of a lot better in every way and no crappy wifi / latency / bandwidth. Also you don't have to pay money for virtual desktop which is simply not needed and a waste.
There is a truth in that. Although what I experienced the vdxr synchronous spacewarp in VD is a 100x better than if I do it with link meta reprojection
How about oculus software being utter trash that disconnects if you look at it the wrong way and kills the game? At least VD keeps the session going if you disconnect or turn the headset off.
You either have not used it or used it with a crappy system or wifi. Clearly you have no idea. If you have a good wifi, it is the best option for Quest 3. At least for the majority of
Would be useful to see your ingame settings as well as they make a massive difference
do you what do you think about virtual desktop Hand tracking and could you make a video about that for the quest 2/3? (emulating vr controller with hand tracking)
I've an RTX 3090 ti, I got linksys Hydra 6e and I run DCS using OpenComposite to disable SteamVR without any problem and wireless. I set in the Oculus app the resolution to be at 1.3. A very decent graphic setting in DCS but keeping the resolution for the monitor low because I don't care about it. I use a sharpening of 75% in virtual Desktop and another 60% in OpenXr in game, not sure who has priority and how a double setting actually behave. I disabled the function described in this video and even in the Gulf map I get between 70 to 80 FPS.
Thanks for the tips!
Happy to help!
Sorry guys, did you get better resolution with VD than wired?!? I am on a 4090 so godlike is possibe i think, with cable maxing out to 1.4 the res on oculus software it is not cristal clear in the distance
What are your other settings in DCS and Nvidia, are they the same as your previous videos?
It’s really a gamechanger for me with MSFS. I couldn’t play it 2 years ago because of the artifacts but now it works very well in normal scenarios while still looking stunning.
DCS is also on my list but those simulators always take so much time to set up and learn 😅
Good to hear you are so positive. I yet have to try it in msfs!
@@laubox VR Flight Sim Guy made a video about it a few days ago.
The realistic visuals are just stunning in VR
How is SSW now compared to Meta's ASW? With meta airlink i have managed to get 72fps in most singleplayer scenarios in dcs but with use of dlss. Now wondering if SSW would have less motion blur than dlss it would be nice to use, and turn off dlss.
i use these settings too,but i use godlike 120fps and ssw always enabled... its Great! with Microsoft flightsimulator i need to go 72fps and ssw always(but it does runs great this way)
Thanks for sharing
The best performance boost you can do is change the VR Bitrate. The default 200mbps is way way too high and causes nasty stuttering and poor frame timing. At least for normal builds. God tier PCs can probably handle it
I would highly recommend starting at 70mbps. Frame tiem greatly improves and stuttering goes away.
Outside of that, other settings are great
AV1 10bit gives me milisecond black screen flickers every now and then for some reason
fyi, i have an R5 5500 cpu and found that i sometimes get stutters with my bitrate set too high due to cpu bottleneck. i reduced it from 150mps to 72mps and it smoothed out.
Last time i tried ASW the ghosting effect when passing other aircraft at speed really annoyed me. So I dropped some settings and run full fat 72fps. Maybe i should try ASW again
how do you record the video when you playing DCS with VD? i was using OBS but it was very lag.( only the recorded video is lag, the game was totally OK.i'm using 4090 so the hardware should not be the problem)
I'm getting 60 fps and honestly the game runs amazing and everything is way clearer then before, my only issue and the reason why i cant play like this is because every time i drastically move my head the game fails to load in the same speed, i know my description may sound contradicting but this is really the case for me, if anyone experienced similar or of anyone has any ideas on what i should configure i would gladly take some tips
any reason i cant get it to go above 40fps even in the menu? i have a 7800xt 7800x3d 64gigs ddr5.
But how was your render distance in be because at times aircraft would disappear even though my jet in the game would hold a radar lock
So is anyone having issues with trying to boot dcs with quest 3 and being able to load the game? Apparently there was a new update and messed thing up with open xr. Can someone help?
thanks for you video, Seeking advice from you:
I use Quest 3 + VD for wireless streaming to play DCS.
I've tried to lower the in-game settings of DCS as your last video, and currently, the frame rate and effects are basically satisfactory.
However, occasionally the 3D image on the Quest headset freezes while the image on the computer screen remains visible.
I have no choice but to force quit the game. It's very annoying, especially when trying to view the map with F10 during big missions.
I've already dedicated a great game wifi6 router for the computer and Quest headset, with the computer connected via Ethernet cable. It's confirmed to be a gigabit network.
I wonder if you have encountered this situation? The VD image quality is great, but it's just not stable. It's very frustrating.
Thank you all for your help!
My Computer specs: i5 12600 + 4060ti + 32GB RAM.
The game is broken for all q3 users
@@AIRSIMGOLENDAR-hq6bb what you mean broken?
@@Eythx the last q3 update messed up the open xr with dcs some how every 1 is having to wate till the 10th for the patch
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You better play on hevc cause the 30 series do not support av1!
Explain to me why my quest controllers don't work in dcs. I play via virtual desktop and openxr. The game loads as VR, but in the menu I can only use the PC mouse to click, and when I uncheck the PC mouse option, it loads my Headseat as a mouse and the controllers still don't work. Of course, all game menu controller options are enabled. So maybe you know what the problem is?
You need to select "use controllers" in the VR settings of DCS, top right section. Make sure all of those are selected.
Well I decided to give this a go using the Quest 2 and it didn't really work that well for me. After undoing everything in the video and even deleting virtual desktop from my headset and PC, DCS crashes on startup every time in VR. I've tried Air Link vs Cable, SteamVR vs Oculus, DCS by itself with none of my other settings or apps, nothing works. I'm lost because the game worked perfectly fine beforehand. Any help would be appreciated.
It is caused by a conflicting auto update by oculus. There are old oculus logs that you can install to revert the update and get DCS to run again. ED won't fix this for probably a few weeks unfortunately.
meta should hire this virtual desktop guy
Yeah..Meta should do a lot of things lol they should literally put this guy in charge of their entire VR enterprise and fire half of their “yes” people inside their teams. Their technical push has been great but the software side is a dumpster fire.
that guy is a fraud
Have someone also had the problem that DCS don’t start when you have the vr enable box in check. I think it’s just a problem for quest users
v63 messed it up. I have quest 3 and dont like using steam VR just launch oculus and then dcs in MT, but it just gives up.... its the update but ED is working on a fix but they dont know when it'll be ready.
@@Davis2920022001ok tanks for info this problem was driving me crazy and I just wondered if I was lonely with this problem. 👍👍
When I try to use AV1 the performance overlay shows HEVC, could be due to having a 3060ti?
I believe you are correct, all RTX 40 series cards have AV1 encoders built in.
sorry noob here. but how do you have the quest connected to your PC? via Cable or via Wifi. Is virtual desktop also needed when you connect via cable? thanks
Hey, kinda new to this myself. I have learned a few things though. Quest 3 is what I have. There are primarily 3 ways to play DCS for vr. He warned though, that over the last month or so there was a Quest 3 update that prevents using the quest 3 vr headsets. Back to the ways to use vr. 1, you can use a virtual desktop, a third-party application that you can buy to install on your desktop and headset. The way though you connect your headset to your p.c. virtual desktop is by wifi. Due to the graphics of dcs you need a excellent connection to your wifi. This most of the time requires updating your wifi. I bought a special wifi device to accommodate this, I just do not think it is worth the cost at this point. The second way is to connect the headset to the computer via the Quest 3 application, which is called airlink I believe, it also requires an excellent wifi connection but is not as strong as the virtual desktop. The third way to connect is via a USB direct connection to your p.c. to do this you need a special cable. Special because it needs to be able to handle at least 2.5gb through put. Any more questions let me know.
@@bg.k.7000 thanks for the reply and info. Also found this: ua-cam.com/video/Gbfi9gwAffA/v-deo.htmlsi=96O7hBUm_pgI-LSI. So Virtual Desktop seems better but means wifi. Not sure what is the best way for wifi. Maybe this d link wifi dongle connected to your pc. Its weird that a link cable is not better than wifi. Actually have DCS up and running now, pretty decent, even with not so good wifi. Only when i enable the hands in Cockpit, the controls start to lag a lot. Without hands and using the mouse, things are smooth
And this guide is pretty good too. Seems not needed anymore to use the --force openxr command. And the composite i dont have. ua-cam.com/video/C799qSimMd4/v-deo.htmlsi=iPC1r47B80fQwcfg
have you tried this in multiplayer
I have only tried it in multiplayer and that got me flabbergasted!
@@laubox,yep, i think i saw you on ECW server a few days ago 😂
Excellent! what are your in-game settings or is there a video I can watch to check em out? I like to think I've gotten my settings fleshed out but always willing to try how someone else has it setup!@@laubox
@@coookalothanks for the comment buddy. I have a settings guide, however I have bumped up my settings as I only aim for a 55 fps when playing in reprojection.
@@laubox 55 fps seems pretty low, but is it a stutter free 55 fps?
Honestly, hard for me to believe that wireless using VD could possibly be better than using a wire. but I guess I’ll just have to give it a try
Calbe or wifi all do compress image. With wifi 6e bandwidth and latency is not a issue as on a cable. Tested both solution. But now VD hass better SSW that ASW oculus...
using the Quest Link is pretty good on it's own and spending 20 bucks on something else just seems silly to me. How is this better than a wired connection? I'm guessing its subjective because my DCS looks great and runs well too with the Link cable.
It's typically more stable then the meta software. Both ways you are encoding and decoding it. In theory the wired connection should be better but in my experience virtual desktop provides a better experience and more encoding options
Wired isn't through HDMI or DP. It is through USB-C and there it is encoded/decoded as well.
V63 ruined DCS for me, i only use oculus app on quest 3 and launch DCS steam in MT but now I'm forced to use steamVR, virtual desktop both of which jitter.
Without ingame settings, this video is useless!
Standalone VR is bad for racing and military avia simulators. Racing - latency. Avia - compression alone, so SSW is extra problem (single plane visibility). Get G2 ;)
I'm sorry bro but SSW is the most disgusting setting ever. Everytime I used it I felt like I was about to throw up.
Why on earth use virtual desktop ? - use direct link PCVR ! .. a hell of a lot better in every way and no crappy wifi / latency / bandwidth. Also you don't have to pay money for virtual desktop which is simply not needed and a waste.
There is a truth in that. Although what I experienced the vdxr synchronous spacewarp in VD is a 100x better than if I do it with link meta reprojection
How about oculus software being utter trash that disconnects if you look at it the wrong way and kills the game? At least VD keeps the session going if you disconnect or turn the headset off.
@@fear2218I was shocked as I have way way better performance with virtual desktop
yep me 2 @@PimBJJ
You either have not used it or used it with a crappy system or wifi. Clearly you have no idea. If you have a good wifi, it is the best option for Quest 3. At least for the majority of
Thanks for the tips!
You bet!