Id like to through a name in the hat. "Ned Pun - A strange Swede with a thing for dad jokes, explosives, meat balls and alien carnage" also stellar work on the all nighter. Appreciate the extra mile.
@@Kaebuki you say unlucky, I call bs. Same as grenade launcher whiff on first mission which makes their viability questionable with that solid 45° whiff spread. That was smallest crewed ship. In crashed condition. With armed civilian on support. That's a hard nope from me.
For what it's worth, after double-checking the numbers even the basic armor upgrade would have been enough for Kazorm to survive that shot. Just bad timing that I had just peeled it off of him to armor-up the combat medics instead. So I suppose, to be fair, it was a punishment for heading into Month 4 with no armor upgrades on a third of my squad. :)
Those mantids are terrifying. Less than chrysalids, though. Let's hope the zombie mechanic stays over in the xcom universe. Service guarantees Sebillianship!
10:06 I don't think the statement 'Misfires are more likely' is supposed to mean misfiring at 90 degree angle On another note, Nova wouldn't mind joining the crew
Suicidal civvies are excellent alien detectors. Well done on rebuilding the save for v4. I'm guessing I got tired of patching people up and went AWOL? Or was I an off-screen casualty :D EDIT: Just finished watching... that was NOT as milk run holy crap. RIP Kazorm.
@@RetconRaider speaking of reinforcements I am also still waiting I believe, the name I submitted was Pathfinder, he travels and lights a path trough the darkness leading the raiders safely :)
Picked this game up during the current Steam sale. Those Mantid's are way to accurate! They kept out-shooting my snipers. Never leave the base without smoke grenades now. The grenade launcher does have smoke grenades, find them under the equipment tab, recommend these... half the weight of the explosive grenades as well. I would also rather take a hit to accuracy and even TU's and check the "heavy armour" box for each trooper... until I can build some better armour.
Retcon, there is no such thing as a Milk Run, other than going to a store and buying milk, of course. The Character I submitted was male, btw. Poor Kazorm :(
Cpl. Cancerman here. 7:26 It actually was my service nickname, based of the "bad guy" from the X-Files tv-series, which I found too be a funny cross-ref into an X-Com game. 29:03 - Thats some seriously solid flares.
Well...that escalated quickly. Devs definitely watched your playthrough and felt offended by how smooth your runs were, took it too personal 😂 Mantids are definite game changers on the battlefield: highly mobile glass canons with little regard to their own life, but I guess it'll make things more interesting. Thanks for replaying it on v4 to catch up with v3 progress from before. I wouldn't mind joining the roster as Zen Master Dan (we both know Raiders could use a bit more Zen on the battlefield, especially after this one) 😅 As a special request for consideration: since I'm Polish, I'd take only Polish recruit spot, should you happen to have one. No pressure really.
Yeah, 48:46 is why I do not stack up outside closed UFO front doors. I knock the doors down with explosives or MG fire. I think the squad got off lightly there.
I suppose I really should just start blasting the doors. I've been hesitant because I'm not sure if destroying them costs us some of our potential salvage. :)
@@RetconRaider Blow the door and slice the angle on the corners. No reason to let a room full of bad guys just unload into you getting damage and suppression on a bunch of your guys all at once. Imagine this same breaching scenario, but the aliens had a grenade or two. You'd have brought home more body bags than soldiers.
Wow, thank you for going through the extra effort to rebuild the save for Milestone 4! Unfortunate I got demoted, but I'll work my way back up the ranks! Or... at least die trying :P
I know I’m late but I’d like to throw my hat in the ring. Just catching up to your playlist. Really enjoying it. That last mission went a lot like my first mission where I found mantids.
"Bloody 'ell, call the c'mander's wife a bonny lad one time... and ye get d'moted back to noncom... least I got tah see mah wee nephew on his birthday! He's a dear, he is." - Ex-Lt. Taliesin
Aw. New Addi looks less like me, IRL Addi. Glasses, age, and nationality are more accurate tho. "Hey, Mister Skyranger Pilot, can we stop by my ex's place while we're in Texas? He makes the *best* rice pilaf, claims it's his fancy pressure cooker." - Addi
As a noname YT subscriber, I vote to deploy Kazorn Mk.2. Tgis way we as viewers would be able to easier monitor losses. And there are plenty of slots available in the future anyway as the game is designed for 6 bases ie far more many squads. Edit: I hate when YT "swallows" my comment so I rewrite it from memory after reloading the app only to see the first one resurface after I'm done.
Tactical suggestion: maybe not carry the grenade launcher into the tight confines of a ship? Switch to pistol? Also, I would implore you to avoid night missions. It's not difficult, and they are an unnecessary complication. Although I guess you could say that night missions are always exciting, which is not necessarily true of daytime milk runs. Especially in the jungle, there's no mission more scary except maybe a base.
Problem is, Med Bays don't just reduce healing times, they improve survival chance to 25%. That's non-trivial, as the unfortunate Kazorm may have discovered. Looks like he had 40 HP, and the bug did exactly that much damage.
Yeah. Honestly, even just having Warden Armor on him would have kept him standing, and I had *just* taken it off him before that run to switch it over to the Rifleman. Bad luck of the draw. :)
As a noname YT subscriber, I vote to deploy Kazorn Mk.2. This way we would be able to see how many losses fhere are. And the game is designed for 6 bases anyway, there would be a lot of slots free.
Not sure if you got the mechanics of this game. You seemed to know them in the first games but not anymore. I guess it's a bit of nervousness on some situations, but just in case, I'd like to remind you: Corners are not cover. Cover is only applied if the shot passes through it, so people at the corners are NOT in cover. If you have clear shots on aliens, unless you're sitting just behind low cover, so do the aliens. When they expend their AP on their turns, there's no need to supress them, as there's no reaction fire. I understand sometimes you want to supress them in case you don't finish them, but they usually get suppressed by shots alone. If you're sitting behind high cover, you can't get targeted, so don't crouch. Those 4 AP when standing up are 7-8% of the soldier's AP, and that really hurts assault rushes. Veteran Xenonauts players crouch as less as possible, and only when in uncertain terrain. When you're exploring, those are 8 APs every turn, almost 3 steps per turn. Anyway, just a reminder, I know you know how to play the game, it's just that those are some bad habits that give you a bit of a handicap. And please, keep it up! I have the game, but I don't like rerunning the beginning again and again, so I'm waiting for release, and I like having these sneak peeks to be prepared on my own run when the game is live! Good work!
Honestly, given the lack of accurate mechanics guides, I've just kind of been feeling it out as I've gone along. One of the common hazards of a game that's still under active development. :) With corners, the impression I got was that they did count as cover if the enemy was at an acute enough angle, and only left you open if they enemy was at least 45° to the side. With flashbangs, I'd probably just call that an overabundance of caution. There's no clear indicator if an enemy has points banked or not until they start firing. But yeah, in some cases I'm also just anticipating RNG shenanigans, and half-expecting a sure kill to go sideways. Easier to flashbang before our guys move in and start blocking lines of fire. With crouching, I was uncertain if crouching provided defensive bonuses. Though in some cases, I also do it when clustering up just in case someone in the back decides to pop off a reflex shot. :)
@@RetconRaider I think your right with corners, it depends on the angle, but the aliens aren't stupid, they just take a sidestep, so leaving your guys in the corner is VERY dangerous. With crouching, I don't know either, because I think in the beginning they said it wouldn't give Accuracy bonus, and it does, but really, you've been crouching people behind trains and walls when assaulting the UFO, and that gets you 4 less AP for assault. Sometimes, 4 AP really matter. I always face them to were I think they're moving next turn, because getting 1 AP away from what you need is really frustrating. It gets tedious, though, that level of micromanagement.
@@antoniogonzalezperez8757 Okay, as of Milestone 4 it appears that crouching increases accuracy *and* defense, but the defensive bonus only applies to "cover effectiveness" which is increased by 20%. It also helps mitigate chances of friendly fire when firing through/over crouching allies, but I couldn't find specifics there.
Ha ha, yeah, sorry about that. I was just trying to rebuild the roster from MS3, and this time out my pick of female recruits was pretty bare-bones. Though there's a pretty decent one in Month 4 if you'd prefer I swap you off to a rookie with stronger starting stats. :)
@@RetconRaider No, I accept the challenge, she's otherwise really good. Just run her out a lot so she gets TUs, she'll catch up eventually. If she lives so long.
It'll definitely help when I can finally afford to get training facilities back up and running. Though, sadly, that'll probably have to wait until after we get some turrets and anti-air defenses set up. It really does feel like some of those destroyers are starting to beeline for our bases.
9:53 And that's right there can be translated as "devs removed grenade launchers from the game". Well, it's been nice knowing them😅 I can get deviation within initial blast range, but this bs is just cheating.
@@RetconRaider Yeah, as a ordinary weekend gamer I had the opportunity to just restart the campaign when the milestone 4 hit the market, and make them my new priority.
Out of interest, did the milestone 4 update force you to restart the campaign? Or did you decide that, with the number of tweaks and changes, it was better to start from scratch?
So, Burp had four shots, all under 80% probability, and landed 3 of them, killing 2 mantids. Erica could manage one shot at 85% and blew it. She and Burp are now officially rivals. :)
Second highest. That adds stronger and more numerous enemy spawns, among other things. But I did also re-enable the visual health displays to make it easier to keep track of what's happening.
Ret, you would be a terrible CO, prioritizing salvage and costs over soldiers lives... Oh, nevermind, that seems pretty normal in today's Military as well.
Grenade launchers have reaction fire turned off in every clip that I've seen of the game. I've never seen anyone try to turn it back on. For reference, regular weapons can have reaction fire toggled on or off per soldier, but they default to on.
I appreciate that not only did you ditch your progress, but also replayed the whole thing so we wouldn’t notice.
And an all-nighter! That's so much effort!
Id like to through a name in the hat. "Ned Pun - A strange Swede with a thing for dad jokes, explosives, meat balls and alien carnage" also stellar work on the all nighter. Appreciate the extra mile.
I also would like to learn how to spell. But that shall have to be a later project.
RIP Kazorm. Went on a bug hunt and got swatted.
That was really unlucky. They had just got out of the dropship as well! Mantids are deadly snipers at night.
@@Kaebuki you say unlucky, I call bs. Same as grenade launcher whiff on first mission which makes their viability questionable with that solid 45° whiff spread.
That was smallest crewed ship. In crashed condition. With armed civilian on support. That's a hard nope from me.
For what it's worth, after double-checking the numbers even the basic armor upgrade would have been enough for Kazorm to survive that shot. Just bad timing that I had just peeled it off of him to armor-up the combat medics instead.
So I suppose, to be fair, it was a punishment for heading into Month 4 with no armor upgrades on a third of my squad. :)
@@RetconRaider tbh, protecting combat medics is a smart move. Lose the healer, lose everyone.
Thanks for the extrawork. :)
Those mantids are terrifying. Less than chrysalids, though. Let's hope the zombie mechanic stays over in the xcom universe. Service guarantees Sebillianship!
One could hope...
Nope, there are zombie-makers in Xenonauts, too. Always have been.
I keep hearing it as: oh there's a civilian in there, and he's shot down..
10:06 I don't think the statement 'Misfires are more likely' is supposed to mean misfiring at 90 degree angle
On another note, Nova wouldn't mind joining the crew
Can only imagine the xenonaut callout for civilians is “canary”.
I see I got demoted. Is this because I ate the last tub of ice cream back at base? I can't help my cravings for mint chocolate chip.😢
You and me both. :P
Suicidal civvies are excellent alien detectors. Well done on rebuilding the save for v4.
I'm guessing I got tired of patching people up and went AWOL? Or was I an off-screen casualty :D
EDIT: Just finished watching... that was NOT as milk run holy crap. RIP Kazorm.
Oh, shoot, I *knew* I missed someone. I'll get you back in with the next batch of reinforcements. :)
@@RetconRaider speaking of reinforcements I am also still waiting I believe, the name I submitted was Pathfinder, he travels and lights a path trough the darkness leading the raiders safely :)
No worries, I've got you on the list. :)
9:52 that's the kind of wind you see in the Worms series
Five Crimson Hearts and one KIA on that milk run. It must have been Unicorn's milk.
Picked this game up during the current Steam sale. Those Mantid's are way to accurate! They kept out-shooting my snipers. Never leave the base without smoke grenades now. The grenade launcher does have smoke grenades, find them under the equipment tab, recommend these... half the weight of the explosive grenades as well. I would also rather take a hit to accuracy and even TU's and check the "heavy armour" box for each trooper... until I can build some better armour.
Retcon, there is no such thing as a Milk Run, other than going to a store and buying milk, of course.
The Character I submitted was male, btw. Poor Kazorm :(
Cpl. Cancerman here. 7:26 It actually was my service nickname, based of the "bad guy" from the X-Files tv-series, which I found too be a funny cross-ref into an X-Com game. 29:03 - Thats some seriously solid flares.
Ha, okay, that certainly tracks. I always remembered him as the Smoking Man, but he did have a lot of other nicknames. :)
Trial by fire for the rookies! Let's go Raiders, rip Kaz
Kayzorm - By Grabthar's hammer, by the suns of Worvan, you shall be avenged!
Great job moving to Milestone 4!
Well...that escalated quickly. Devs definitely watched your playthrough and felt offended by how smooth your runs were, took it too personal 😂 Mantids are definite game changers on the battlefield: highly mobile glass canons with little regard to their own life, but I guess it'll make things more interesting.
Thanks for replaying it on v4 to catch up with v3 progress from before.
I wouldn't mind joining the roster as Zen Master Dan (we both know Raiders could use a bit more Zen on the battlefield, especially after this one) 😅 As a special request for consideration: since I'm Polish, I'd take only Polish recruit spot, should you happen to have one. No pressure really.
Pvt. Chowder reporting for duty! Id love to be added to the roster 😂
Yeah, 48:46 is why I do not stack up outside closed UFO front doors. I knock the doors down with explosives or MG fire. I think the squad got off lightly there.
I suppose I really should just start blasting the doors. I've been hesitant because I'm not sure if destroying them costs us some of our potential salvage. :)
@@RetconRaider It might, but only a few alloys, and lives are more precious.
@@erichammer2751 Fair. It's just the dragon in me, always wanting to hoard those precious resources. :P
@@RetconRaider Blow the door and slice the angle on the corners. No reason to let a room full of bad guys just unload into you getting damage and suppression on a bunch of your guys all at once. Imagine this same breaching scenario, but the aliens had a grenade or two. You'd have brought home more body bags than soldiers.
Wow, thank you for going through the extra effort to rebuild the save for Milestone 4! Unfortunate I got demoted, but I'll work my way back up the ranks! Or... at least die trying :P
And hey, more accurate country and look is nice :D
I know I’m late but I’d like to throw my hat in the ring. Just catching up to your playlist. Really enjoying it. That last mission went a lot like my first mission where I found mantids.
Got SGM and a well earned medal! Woot!
"Bloody 'ell, call the c'mander's wife a bonny lad one time... and ye get d'moted back to noncom... least I got tah see mah wee nephew on his birthday! He's a dear, he is." - Ex-Lt. Taliesin
48:46 "THERE WAS A FIREFIGHT!"
I volunteer, nickname Rush B, I'll rush in front of the raiders. For the glory of the raiders!
Hey Retcon. Ready to die like an honorary Raider :)
We will ignore it . Famous last words
Aw. New Addi looks less like me, IRL Addi. Glasses, age, and nationality are more accurate tho.
"Hey, Mister Skyranger Pilot, can we stop by my ex's place while we're in Texas? He makes the *best* rice pilaf, claims it's his fancy pressure cooker." - Addi
I’d love to be a late entry! Hopefully I get in and don’t die!
ooof these multidimensional earth civil wars are tough
As a noname YT subscriber, I vote to deploy Kazorn Mk.2. Tgis way we as viewers would be able to easier monitor losses. And there are plenty of slots available in the future anyway as the game is designed for 6 bases ie far more many squads.
Edit: I hate when YT "swallows" my comment so I rewrite it from memory after reloading the app only to see the first one resurface after I'm done.
If you know a mission is coming up that will 100% kill someone, I volunteer as tribute.
Nice Starship Trooper Reference
Tactical suggestion: maybe not carry the grenade launcher into the tight confines of a ship? Switch to pistol?
Also, I would implore you to avoid night missions. It's not difficult, and they are an unnecessary complication.
Although I guess you could say that night missions are always exciting, which is not necessarily true of daytime milk runs. Especially in the jungle, there's no mission more scary except maybe a base.
Pvt. Pinian enlisting sir, like explosives and loves making cleaning puns on cleaner missions
O w. Well… better me than someone else. I’ll be playing video games in the infirmary if you need me, Ret 😅
I would gladly take a spot as a recruit
Put Reb in and the luck of the Irish will protect her team but maybe not Reb.
Love it but bug hunts aside just add My standard Berek61 to the possible KIA List. Loving this one its truly a horrifying ride :)
You can recruit PVT JaChSe, but I guarantee he'll be a bullet catcher.
Sure, I'll show up. Pvt. Eddie Jonsson, reporting for duty. No specialty, just your average grunt.
33:10 Training mission? A man is dead Commander!
Problem is, Med Bays don't just reduce healing times, they improve survival chance to 25%. That's non-trivial, as the unfortunate Kazorm may have discovered. Looks like he had 40 HP, and the bug did exactly that much damage.
Yeah. Honestly, even just having Warden Armor on him would have kept him standing, and I had *just* taken it off him before that run to switch it over to the Rifleman. Bad luck of the draw. :)
As a noname YT subscriber, I vote to deploy Kazorn Mk.2. This way we would be able to see how many losses fhere are. And the game is designed for 6 bases anyway, there would be a lot of slots free.
Wow a hard reset, pvt pathfinder reporting for duty, hopefully, I don't die on the first deployment :)
Glad to see more
Not sure if you got the mechanics of this game. You seemed to know them in the first games but not anymore. I guess it's a bit of nervousness on some situations, but just in case, I'd like to remind you:
Corners are not cover. Cover is only applied if the shot passes through it, so people at the corners are NOT in cover. If you have clear shots on aliens, unless you're sitting just behind low cover, so do the aliens.
When they expend their AP on their turns, there's no need to supress them, as there's no reaction fire. I understand sometimes you want to supress them in case you don't finish them, but they usually get suppressed by shots alone.
If you're sitting behind high cover, you can't get targeted, so don't crouch. Those 4 AP when standing up are 7-8% of the soldier's AP, and that really hurts assault rushes. Veteran Xenonauts players crouch as less as possible, and only when in uncertain terrain. When you're exploring, those are 8 APs every turn, almost 3 steps per turn.
Anyway, just a reminder, I know you know how to play the game, it's just that those are some bad habits that give you a bit of a handicap.
And please, keep it up! I have the game, but I don't like rerunning the beginning again and again, so I'm waiting for release, and I like having these sneak peeks to be prepared on my own run when the game is live! Good work!
Honestly, given the lack of accurate mechanics guides, I've just kind of been feeling it out as I've gone along. One of the common hazards of a game that's still under active development. :)
With corners, the impression I got was that they did count as cover if the enemy was at an acute enough angle, and only left you open if they enemy was at least 45° to the side.
With flashbangs, I'd probably just call that an overabundance of caution. There's no clear indicator if an enemy has points banked or not until they start firing.
But yeah, in some cases I'm also just anticipating RNG shenanigans, and half-expecting a sure kill to go sideways. Easier to flashbang before our guys move in and start blocking lines of fire.
With crouching, I was uncertain if crouching provided defensive bonuses. Though in some cases, I also do it when clustering up just in case someone in the back decides to pop off a reflex shot. :)
@@RetconRaider I think your right with corners, it depends on the angle, but the aliens aren't stupid, they just take a sidestep, so leaving your guys in the corner is VERY dangerous.
With crouching, I don't know either, because I think in the beginning they said it wouldn't give Accuracy bonus, and it does, but really, you've been crouching people behind trains and walls when assaulting the UFO, and that gets you 4 less AP for assault. Sometimes, 4 AP really matter. I always face them to were I think they're moving next turn, because getting 1 AP away from what you need is really frustrating.
It gets tedious, though, that level of micromanagement.
@@antoniogonzalezperez8757 Eh, fair. I do tend to tap the crouch button out of habit if I notice someone has 4+ AP to spare. :)
@@antoniogonzalezperez8757 Okay, as of Milestone 4 it appears that crouching increases accuracy *and* defense, but the defensive bonus only applies to "cover effectiveness" which is increased by 20%.
It also helps mitigate chances of friendly fire when firing through/over crouching allies, but I couldn't find specifics there.
Oh, gawd, Erica only has 42 TU. She needs to do a LOT of road work.
Ha ha, yeah, sorry about that. I was just trying to rebuild the roster from MS3, and this time out my pick of female recruits was pretty bare-bones.
Though there's a pretty decent one in Month 4 if you'd prefer I swap you off to a rookie with stronger starting stats. :)
@@RetconRaider No, I accept the challenge, she's otherwise really good. Just run her out a lot so she gets TUs, she'll catch up eventually. If she lives so long.
It'll definitely help when I can finally afford to get training facilities back up and running.
Though, sadly, that'll probably have to wait until after we get some turrets and anti-air defenses set up. It really does feel like some of those destroyers are starting to beeline for our bases.
All that inventory shuffling, and you didn't dump Kabuki's stun rod after giving her a stun pistol. That seems like an unnecessary redundancy.
Eh, figured it was worth holding onto just in case I burned through the clips. Those stun guns empty out quick. :)
9:53
And that's right there can be translated as "devs removed grenade launchers from the game". Well, it's been nice knowing them😅
I can get deviation within initial blast range, but this bs is just cheating.
Mantis makes me long for the proximity grenades from original xcom , and use the Mars rover as standard loadout.
Honestly, it does make me want to prep armored drones for both squads, but we just have so many costs in other areas we need to cover first. :)
@@RetconRaider Yeah, as a ordinary weekend gamer I had the opportunity to just restart the campaign when the milestone 4 hit the market, and make them my new priority.
Well it's time for me to enter the fray. Mr.Noah to be enlisted, if there's a space for a combat medic it'll be perfect fit.
with room add Ishva and love the game
Out of interest, did the milestone 4 update force you to restart the campaign?
Or did you decide that, with the number of tweaks and changes, it was better to start from scratch?
Mandatory reset, but it wasn't a surprise. They warned me about it ahead of time. it's a pretty common hazard of jumping into early access games. :)
So, Burp had four shots, all under 80% probability, and landed 3 of them, killing 2 mantids. Erica could manage one shot at 85% and blew it. She and Burp are now officially rivals. :)
I would like to enter my name to the meat grinder list. Old Xcom veteran raider :P
Hey Rertcon, I want to submit to the meatgrinder pvt Mikey300. I don't intend to live forever
late to this playlist here but what is the difficulty level of your campaign?. Ty
Second highest. That adds stronger and more numerous enemy spawns, among other things.
But I did also re-enable the visual health displays to make it easier to keep track of what's happening.
Ret, you would be a terrible CO, prioritizing salvage and costs over soldiers lives... Oh, nevermind, that seems pretty normal in today's Military as well.
sure why not throw another Fox on the roster, i mean you only live... once?
Please put me in when you can... Sad Sam ...as a sniper or heavy
Will do. :)
don't know if you can but pvt aproy for airman if not than bullet catcher.
Not sure we can name pilots in this one, but I'll give it a look. :)
@@RetconRaider If you cant do that than put me in as a soldier or a mars unit (if you make them).
@@RetconRaider Can't rename pilots, but you can change the code names of the aircraft. If the viewer would like to be a plane.
Am I on the list?
Narcyz or Marek?
Yup! About three down on the current list, so it shouldn't be too long now. :)
Thanks! :)
Can you reaction fire with a grenade launcher?
Not that I've seen. In the cases where a Grenadier reaction fires, I've only seen them do it with their sidearm.
Grenade launchers have reaction fire turned off in every clip that I've seen of the game. I've never seen anyone try to turn it back on. For reference, regular weapons can have reaction fire toggled on or off per soldier, but they default to on.
Hm, never even thought to try re-enabling it for GLs. I don't think I'd even want to, given how wildly unpredictable that might end up being.
9:50, Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah, you rolled 1, critical failure
please add me to the list if not already on it
Will do. :)
Don’t see my name ?
Never mind I see me
You made me do that. Tickled my trigger arm