Jezus Christ, your sentence is wrong in so many different ways I don't even know where to begin. I could write a whole paragraph arguing Hybrid Dynamic Computable General Equilibrium Model comparisons. Instead we'll dumb it down to your level of comprehension; If China so good in green energy, then why ppl not able to breath in Beijing Shanghai or Shenzen?
@Timmäs Mudda Reloaded the magic word is "petro-dollars" and "petro-euro" Oil help EU and especially the U.S to print almost infinite money with little inflation.
@@Commievn The petrodollar, helps us in the EU? You do realize the Euro is the dollars biggest competitor? As in, the petrodollar actively weakens our trading position and... why do I even bother? Yeah sure, the petrodollar, the illuminati and Gargamel.
So basically both sides of the Atlantic will be funding new green technologies. Countries like Mexico will benefit a lot too. I certainly don’t think we should be depending on China too much.
@@Wolfcamp555 yeah, no one cares about those hick states. Manufacturers are ending production of ICE vehicles- no matter what inbred states say or ban…
Overpopulated China puts more C02 in the air than North America and Europe combined. Without China , your wasting your time trying to clean up the Earth's air .
For the EU stimulus ought to be on the consumer side, like removal of sales tax for any EU made EV selling for €50k or less, same could go for solar panel installations etc.
That doesn't really counter industry relocation. You would have to do that and add tariff whic could work for the interal markets but also hurt exports.
As I understand it, my thermodynamic engine with an efficiency of 90% will be superfluous on this festive boom of Green Technologies. And when it appears en masse, you will understand how much money and effort was wasted, just down the drain. that path you have chosen (humanity).
All well and good but none of that helps me directly as a citizen. I cant afford the 'greener' options while being taxed more for products seen as polluting. Those taxes then spent on people with more wealth getting subsidized for their electric car and what not. Not helping.
Framing this around the US's Inflation Reduction Act is such a cop-out. And knowing the EU, I won't expend anything more than peanuts to back up what they're saying, either. But, I'll still take it. More investment is always better than less, even if the framing is both dubious and disingenuous.
Can you remember Mrs von der Leyen say in March last year, "We have to move away from an unreliable partner & join up with a more reliable, sustainable one." Meaning the U.S. Well, if you think that woman was smart then, what do you think now?
@@Wolfcamp555 .. I don't know where you get your info from, but America will be selling a HUGE amount of LNG, diesel & gas to Europe as soon as your production ramps up. Read about Venezuela, bro. Look up 'U.S. ties easing of Venezuela sanctions to direct oil supply.'
@@Wolfcamp555 .. What does the U.S. export ban say about products you can export? What happens with LNG? What happens with Venezuela, that has to give up parts of their production as feedstock to the Gulf Coast Refineries? This will result in a Normalization in Energy prizes among Europe & the U.S.
@@oddvardmyrnes9040 there's no ban. We supply NATO Bases ONLY. Venezuela is under sanctions and with the lack of investments in the past 20 years, is in no shape to be exporting either. Europe will have to import from someone else or do without.
@@ramdev9578the EU and UK are only being in stagnation since the 2008 crisis, but that's because the EU just isn't united like the USA, and it didn't pursue things like quantitative easing (QE). It also has a lack of tech companies like the USA/China ( because of lack of research & development funding and just overall disunited EU policy). The greatest problem to the EU is disunity. UK is a whole another thing. Still, it was not driven by the "green transition."
@@Pointi69 they knew they would anger Russia. they deceived about the non-expansion of NATO during the withdrawal of troops from Germany, they deceived the legitimate authorities of Ukraine by signing guarantees in 2014, they deceived with the Minsk agreements, they deceived with offensive weapons, now they are deceived with f16. West regimes are built on lies
As I understand it, my thermodynamic engine with an efficiency of 90% will be superfluous on this festive boom of Green Technologies. And when it appears en masse, you will understand how much money and effort was wasted, just down the drain. that path you have chosen (humanity).
LMAO WTF Europe. US wants to expand its own green industries and this is a good move for the US. A lot of jobs and investments related to EV, batteries, solar panels are going to come to the US because of this. Great move by the US 👍. As for the other side of the world in Indonesia, also wants to create its own green industries in Indonesia and therefore ban export of raw materials like nickel, bauxite, etc (all necessary for green industries) to prod green industry investments in Indonesia. Both of these are good for US and Indonesia respectively, wanting to expand their own green industry, and yet this is what EU is doing. Maybe start removing your tariffs first EU before doing something like this?
With Ursula von decrazy running the show, what could possibly go wrong. You got the infrastructure behind all this right? You got the energy to charge these when every one gets home? A VW polo costs ? How much for the equivalent EV?
an ev means on average 25 more refrigerators per household. where do you get the energy? a us senator spoke about that i think. about wishful thinking.
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The automakers are going to have to do a lot of planning to pick the best options, but also, in terms of what vehicles are built where. Being the planner for a legacy automaker sounds like a pain atm. I wonder what the Japanese are planning. I don't blame them for being hesitant on EVs. So many issues that nobody talks about. But Honda and Toyota probably are thinking about Japan but also their biggest market in NA.
That's like saying the United States is not "America". While technically true, it's also irrelevant. If you aren't in the EU...You really are irrelevant in the European and global landscape.
As deeply pro-European I confirm. The present equation looks like Europe = EU Commission = German interest = Russian connections. It has to change in the interest of EU.
bigger context: the us is in an arms race with both china and russia. the us real wages are going down while the debt is increasing. in contrast to afghanistan in '80s, the us has to spend much more on winning against russia in ukraine. the west will now create more inflation, more debts and probably raise more taxes for the sake of world domination and enormous subsidies. at the same time, china is growing economically, politically and militarily. the gulf states which are earning enormously on high oil and gas prices as well as china have started competing with the imf in lending money which means more influence for them. the eu is sinking and will thus be a much weaker partner of the us. if china doesn't go to war and waits, the us sanctions on china will backfire in the form of expensive products in the us and an enormous decrease in sales to china. the west wants a hot war with china because it is the only way it can win.
Sounds like greed on the behalf of the EU. So what if America is offering Americans a subsidy for a usa made electric car. If its made and sold in the same country it has a much lower carbon footprint working towards greener future.
Using Solar and Wind Energies via battery storage will mean that we all have to switch to low voltage including mass transmission of electricity but this is not feasible during winter if you dun wanna depend of coal or woods burning but rather electric heater. Robust electric heaters are bigger and power on higher wattages.
Well but the US just replaces their Car Dependency with new cars. Why follow into this concrete dungeon? Europe should focus on a new smart grid and more efficiency. Instead of wasting Solar panels in the north invest in Southern Europe and a Co-Op with North Africa (Morocco or Tunisia) . I always believe Europe can develop a alternative position to China and the US.
The reporting isn't specific enough here. Yes, the signed act also has a tax credit for american build ev's, but the elephant in the room are the over 300 billion that will flow into subsidizing pv, wind and storage production facilities in the US. If Europe doesn't keep up with the world market here, then energy dependance will flow from the oil and gas producing nations directly to China and the US, instead of building a self reliant production for itself.
@@Psi-Storm I guess but in US media it isn´t specific either in my opinion. Often its just "bring back jobs" instead of Green transition. Here in Germany we subsidize Solar and afterwards Chinese took it nevertheless, factories were closed and shipped. So EU needs a bit more than money rather a complete "strategy" including Intelligence Defense. So many German companies were spied on it happens all over Europe, yet everyone fights alone.
@@sunrae3971 China abused that Germany effectively subsidized the end customer, so they only had to give out cheap investment credits to build pv production, to push out all European manufacturers. And the German subsidies then went to China instead of staying in Europe, basically paying them to push us out of the market, by scaling faster. It would have been smarter for Germany to subsidise the production, like the EU is doing for the farmers every year, but that wasn't allowed due to EU regulations back then.
International market makes no sense green wise. Moving goods across the world is not the way to go when going green. Producing and selling locally is the adaptation that as to happen for the markets to be green, greener.
a fear of european companies being unfairly muscled out of the U.S.? How many Chevrolets, Buicks and Chrysler have been driving on European roads during the past 30 years? Compare that to the VW's, MB's, BMW's, Porsche's on U.S. roads. The eurpoean argument was always "oh well, we apparently make the better products, let the free market forces decide" Yup....time to turn things around a bit.
- Sales policy GM: as long as GM owned the German brand Opel (and Vauxhall), Opel was allowed to sell in Europe but was denied to sell its models elsewhere. - American automakers scarecly design models attractive to the broad European taste, but some make their way into the European market anyway, mostly SUV's and trucks. Crysler PT Cruiser, Voyager, and Crossfire for example are popular models. My favourite was the Crysler LeBaron. It also has to do with landscape and population density. They are entirely different. The normal traveling distances are shorter, a time range of 1 ½ hour which would be a trip from one bigger town to another, already feels like half a world trip. The roads in towns are narrower, as are the parking lots. - Ford is a pretty popular brand in Europe, especially the models Fiesta, Escort, Focus, and Mondeo), which are produced in Europe and also exported to other countries. - Models of German brands are produced in America VW (Chattanooga, Tennesee), Mercedes (Tuscaloosa County, Alabama), BMW (Spartanburg, South Carolina), and also exported to other countries. They offer a vocational training program in cooperation with community colleges, too similar to the German apprenticeship scheme.
Mrs. von der Leyen's face, even though she had traveled a long way from Europe to Kyiv, she still looked more beautiful and happier when von der Leyen was with her husband. .What has created the happiness of a woman when the woman is not with her husband?
The world must unit as one big force to fight for climate change. Climate disasters caused many lives and huge financial losses. Therefore, investment in green technology is a wisely initiative and cost effective to combat climate disasters in the world.
Of no real importance as the real problem is being ignored. The world's population is already about 9 billion and still rising, nothing is being done to address the true problem.
Green investments will go bad. Electric cars are practically useless and not an efficient consumption of energy. The batteries are not cost effective, are very heavy and expensive. Petroleum fuel is much more efficient in energy production. Windmills have severe limits. Solar panels can be useful but can also destroy the environment around them. With solar energy you have limitations caused by time of year and weather conditions and must once again use batteries for storage. I live in Texas, and we have tried it all. We use a mix of windmills (freeze up in our winters), solar (will not work on days without sun and must use batteries for storage). Oil is still the most efficient fuel for heat production and to run cars. Hydroelectric is great and used all over our country but during drought situations in the west (last 20 years here) can be less reliable.
Electric cars produce significantly more greenhouse gases than fossil-fuel powered cars. This is because of the greenhouse gases produced in mining battery materials and manufacturing the large batteries that are linked to electric cars. However, fossil-fuel powered cars are not as good as hybrid cars when it comes to C02 emission. Hybrid cars have small batteries compared to electric cars.
@@magnem1043 just imagine how much energy you have to produce to replace all of the inner combustion engines which work as tiny energy generator by itself. If an average car has it's own ~100kw power unit I guess we should speak of hundreds of terawatts of extra power generation. At first, where you plan to get such amount of Uranium for nuclear? I don't even speak of a number of new reactors that Europe should build.
As I understand it, my thermodynamic engine with an efficiency of 90% will be superfluous on this festive boom of Green Technologies. And when it appears en masse, you will understand how much money and effort was wasted, just down the drain. that path you have chosen (humanity).
Salderen for Energy transition. And they wanna killit. Kill Rooftop Solar and Profit for ordinary people with Solar. Vote for Salderen for Rooftop Solar Work and clean Energy. Support Salderen.
Batteries have a lifespan. Solar panels have a life span. This is going to get us nowhere when we run out of materials to build batteries and solar panels.
@@alganis3339EU is (was) interested in "green" H2 produced on Siberia with Russian gas. What Russians would do with the remaining CO2 was not in the agenda. Where is EU involvement in nuclear fusion ? Do not mention ITER, you can kill audience with laughter. Any reasonable discussion on ecology is forbidden in EU. What about the ADAC report on electric cars ? Did you hear about it ? No ? ADAC (respected German automobil club) electric car has lower CO2 footprint than diesel (!) afer driving 200 000 km. Do not comply with greenwashing.
Even with green Energies like solar, and wind power energies via oil transformers to step up the electricity voltages with current transmission network, there will be inevitable power shortage supplies.
France got it's wish and has nuclear labeled as green tech, so investments are part of the sri. But there is no company in the world that currently offers nuclear reactors that can produce cheap electricity. The EPR reactors they are currently trying to build in France and UK, will produce energy that costs more than 25 cents/kwh, while onshore wind and pv can produce for 5 cents/kwh, even with battery storage for intermittent production, nuclear is more expensive.
I am impressed that EU is fighting back against the US bullying. 👍👍👍 How much longer is EU going to support the US proxy war and continue paying for the high energy costs?
@@foxooo Only when you cherry-pick data and ignore its variability. For example: Where do you get your energy at night when you're dependent on solar? Batteries? An entirely different energy system which also must be bought and paid for? How do you deal with winter time, when a solar energy system produces 40 to 60 percent less energy than in summer? Dealing with the variability of solar costs an enormous amount of money and makes solar the most expensive energy source there is.
This is great. Western countries can obsess over greenie stuff, just leave the rest of us out of it. It means more oil, gas and coal for the rest of the world. Thanks.
There is a symbiotic relationship between consumerism and industrialization. But clean energy and green transition are not intrinsic parts of this equation because reversing the climate digression does not generate income. One way of integrating environmental issues is by considering the climate as a commodity that has its own fungible and tradable value. And convincing customers that the most desirable commodity is the climate and that climate currency supersedes the value of any other commodity.
Climate is not the most desirable commodity, I'd say by a longshot. Individuals will never choose climate over money, being healthy and being able to choose aka freedom. If organisations don't force the populace, if governments don't bind climate importance into law, nothing would come of the green revolution. Climate is too far removed from the individual. Much further than health, purchasing power and freedom.
@@Habib_Osman Dear Habib Osman, I agree with you, governments need to make the environmental resources, earthy water, and the atmosphere a valuable commodity before people will accept the consequences of taking the environment for granted. The sooner we realize that we can no longer take the environment for granted the better the chance of extending the habitation of humankind. The situation needs to deteriorate dramatically before such drastic steps are implemented. Imagine for a moment that every global citizen will have to pay a fee (a tax fee) for breathing, eating, and using anything that we derive from the earth and the atmosphere. We are paying governments for their administrative services but the environment is simply there to be used. We now realize that using the resources within our environment comes at a price. Best regards, Alex.
@@ramdev9578 okay then you get the brunt of climate change. Pretty sure it was well over 100 degrees in India over the summer. Also coal emissions literally kill tens of thousands throughout the Global South.
@@franzjoseph1837 100 degrees is normal. Our lifespan is more than the west. There you freeze to death, so many homeless and old people. So sad. But you can lead the way. And Save Us. We'll watch from the luxury of coal energy.
@@franzjoseph1837 The Pfizer vaccine wasn't allowed in India, so don't worry about us dropping dead of Suddenly. The Global South can take care of itself, you look to see where your next meal is coming from.
@@ramdev9578 Wait, what? The life expectancy within the European Union for men is 77.8 years and 83.3 years for women. The current life expectancy for India in 2023 is 70.42 years and 64.11 years in Africa. China does better than India and Africa with 77.47 years life expectancy. The current life expectancy for U.S. in 2023 is 79.11 years. The western countries' citizens do live longer on average 😂😂😂
We should have invested this industry much earlier not to keep up with competing economies but to accelerate the transition towards more climate friendly future. It is going to benefit everyone by transitioning early or put it another way if we are slow to transition everyone is going to suffer through climate change and the people and their governments will be paying for the cost of this suffering in lives and economic damage. Investing in this industry isn't about fairness it's about having an insurance for the future. Yes we would be picking winners and influencing the market but in this case there is a urgency that I believe is more important.
Eu politicians seem more determined and seem alot more motivated by passion for the work rather than trivial power/wealth. Ofc im just talking generally, there are exeptions.
Most European politicians are surprised what big step forward that act was for the green energy production in the US. Basically over night the US went from a fossil fuel producer and consument, to a place where all their green industry will move, they planned to build over the next 2 decades to reach climate neutrality.
Car companies need the American market cos in Europe the margins are smaller. The smaller the car the smaller the margins. For example Ford no longer produce small cars for USA... 🧐
The key question is, how much is the bill for green? The salaries of European MPs have been raised by 7%. Can they turn green first, such as reducing nonsense and reducing air pollution?
Trillions have already been swindled for 30 years to Save The World from Climate Change. That's why EU and the UK are broke and the laughing stock of the real world.
As I understand it, my thermodynamic engine with an efficiency of 90% will be superfluous on this festive boom of Green Technologies. And when it appears en masse, you will understand how much money and effort was wasted, just down the drain. that path you have chosen (humanity).
Ideas, etcs are great, but executing them is another challenge, I do fear that the 'coal face' highly skilled workforce is in shortage. Especially with dangerous technologies like batteries, etc.
It's an acid investment. Once the deadzones expand in the ocean from sea to shining sea the acidity will end all life. Thanks for playing. How about a nice game of chess?
As if Germany coal mines are greener and leopard tank run by green energy .. shame on the EU for promoting war and taking about green economy. It’s ridiculous😅
You are barking up the wrong tree. Russia invaded. I assume you are from India, how about fixing your dump as a country first. In my country we can drink the water from the lakes and rivers, how does your sewage mixed with trash water taste. Go take a drink and please explain the experience.
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Just cars and energy source. What battle that Belgium 🇧🇪 lady is talking about? EU member state cannot do an industry when their respective nation does not have the infrastructure or network. Impractical politician talk. 🤣👮♂️
This is the kind of competition I like to see.
China has been subsidising for past 30 years that's why when US and EU companies went bust China became market leader in batteries and solar panels.
Jezus Christ, your sentence is wrong in so many different ways I don't even know where to begin.
I could write a whole paragraph arguing Hybrid Dynamic Computable General Equilibrium Model comparisons.
Instead we'll dumb it down to your level of comprehension; If China so good in green energy, then why ppl not able to breath in Beijing Shanghai or Shenzen?
@Timmäs Mudda Reloaded the magic word is "petro-dollars" and "petro-euro"
Oil help EU and especially the U.S to print almost infinite money with little inflation.
@@Commievn The petrodollar, helps us in the EU? You do realize the Euro is the dollars biggest competitor?
As in, the petrodollar actively weakens our trading position and... why do I even bother?
Yeah sure, the petrodollar, the illuminati and Gargamel.
That is one thing, but chinese labor is also a heck of a lot cheaper. Competing with them is hard.
Coal based industry in China undermines any benefits of the green products bought from there.
If renewables are supposed to be the cheapest form of energy for consumers, why do they require so many direct and indirect subsidies???
So basically both sides of the Atlantic will be funding new green technologies. Countries like Mexico will benefit a lot too.
I certainly don’t think we should be depending on China too much.
There's 32 oil and gas producing states many are or will be banning electric cars.
@@Wolfcamp555 yeah, no one cares about those hick states. Manufacturers are ending production of ICE vehicles- no matter what inbred states say or ban…
Overpopulated China puts more C02 in the air than North America and Europe combined.
Without China , your wasting your time trying to clean up the Earth's air .
@@stevemcgowen yeah. 32 inbred States that control 85% of US production.
@@magnem1043 The Russians are in Africa, and the west is on the run.
Open the floodgate of wasting taxpayers' money.
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protecting the tax payers job
For the EU stimulus ought to be on the consumer side, like removal of sales tax for any EU made EV selling for €50k or less, same could go for solar panel installations etc.
The US didn't give Europe enough time before making this decision.
They could do away with a lot of excessive taxation, tbf.
That doesn't really counter industry relocation. You would have to do that and add tariff whic could work for the interal markets but also hurt exports.
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As I understand it, my thermodynamic engine with an efficiency of 90% will be superfluous on this festive boom of Green Technologies. And when it appears en masse, you will understand how much money and effort was wasted, just down the drain. that path you have chosen (humanity).
All well and good but none of that helps me directly as a citizen. I cant afford the 'greener' options while being taxed more for products seen as polluting. Those taxes then spent on people with more wealth getting subsidized for their electric car and what not.
Not helping.
Framing this around the US's Inflation Reduction Act is such a cop-out. And knowing the EU, I won't expend anything more than peanuts to back up what they're saying, either. But, I'll still take it. More investment is always better than less, even if the framing is both dubious and disingenuous.
What do you mean by cop out.
Zero Unit Afghanistan?
Wdym cop-out? That law is the entire reason this "subsidy war" is even getting discussed.
Can you remember Mrs von der Leyen say in March last year, "We have to move away from an unreliable partner & join up with a more reliable, sustainable one." Meaning the U.S.
Well, if you think that woman was smart then, what do you think now?
Join up in what way? Many oil producing states are banning electric cars. Also, we will be exporting little to no petroleum to Europe.
@@Wolfcamp555 .. I don't know where you get your info from, but America will be selling a HUGE amount of LNG, diesel & gas to Europe as soon as your production ramps up. Read about Venezuela, bro. Look up 'U.S. ties easing of Venezuela sanctions to direct oil supply.'
@@oddvardmyrnes9040 I'm in Texas and we WILL NOT be exporting to the EU. Neither will any of the other states.
@@Wolfcamp555 .. What does the U.S. export ban say about products you can export? What happens with LNG? What happens with Venezuela, that has to give up parts of their production as feedstock to the Gulf Coast Refineries? This will result in a Normalization in Energy prizes among Europe & the U.S.
@@oddvardmyrnes9040 there's no ban. We supply NATO Bases ONLY. Venezuela is under sanctions and with the lack of investments in the past 20 years, is in no shape to be exporting either.
Europe will have to import from someone else or do without.
If this is what it takes for the West to begin the green transition, then so be it
The green transition began 30 years ago and trillions have already been swindled. That's why the UK and the EU are in the doldrums.
@@ramdev9578the EU and UK are only being in stagnation since the 2008 crisis, but that's because the EU just isn't united like the USA, and it didn't pursue things like quantitative easing (QE). It also has a lack of tech companies like the USA/China ( because of lack of research & development funding and just overall disunited EU policy). The greatest problem to the EU is disunity. UK is a whole another thing. Still, it was not driven by the "green transition."
She will do as much for European industry as she did for the German military.
She did make the German military greener. I'd say mission accomplished.
Thanks to Ursula, green energy has developed to such a scale that Germany is printing coal-fired power plants 🤣🤣🤣
She can't Look into the future. And nobody was aware Putin is becoming mad..
@@Pointi69 they knew they would anger Russia. they deceived about the non-expansion of NATO during the withdrawal of troops from Germany, they deceived the legitimate authorities of Ukraine by signing guarantees in 2014, they deceived with the Minsk agreements, they deceived with offensive weapons, now they are deceived with f16. West regimes are built on lies
Male idiocy seems to be universal.
As I understand it, my thermodynamic engine with an efficiency of 90% will be superfluous on this festive boom of Green Technologies. And when it appears en masse, you will understand how much money and effort was wasted, just down the drain. that path you have chosen (humanity).
That's more to do with the idiotic closing of the nuclear power plants plus the lack of no-no-russian oil.
LMAO WTF Europe.
US wants to expand its own green industries and this is a good move for the US. A lot of jobs and investments related to EV, batteries, solar panels are going to come to the US because of this. Great move by the US 👍.
As for the other side of the world in Indonesia, also wants to create its own green industries in Indonesia and therefore ban export of raw materials like nickel, bauxite, etc (all necessary for green industries) to prod green industry investments in Indonesia.
Both of these are good for US and Indonesia respectively, wanting to expand their own green industry, and yet this is what EU is doing. Maybe start removing your tariffs first EU before doing something like this?
A green race? - I'm OK with it :)
With US winning and Europe becoming a non player..
Yo, we need more Bureaucracy to make nature great again
@@DemPilafian Or more city folks
With Ursula von decrazy running the show, what could possibly go wrong.
You got the infrastructure behind all this right?
You got the energy to charge these when every one gets home?
A VW polo costs ? How much for the equivalent EV?
an ev means on average 25 more refrigerators per household. where do you get the energy? a us senator spoke about that i think. about wishful thinking.
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@@TheDynamicmarket Lucky for us that oil grows on trees and we can just keep burning it, to fill our energy needs in the future.
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The end of cheap, affordable energy.
The automakers are going to have to do a lot of planning to pick the best options, but also, in terms of what vehicles are built where.
Being the planner for a legacy automaker sounds like a pain atm.
I wonder what the Japanese are planning. I don't blame them for being hesitant on EVs. So many issues that nobody talks about. But Honda and Toyota probably are thinking about Japan but also their biggest market in NA.
They have been planning on ending ICE vehicles for years now… Honda is building a battery plant in Ohio, just to name 1 manufacturer…
Yeah.. The Japanese are strange. First hybrid car in Asia was made by Toyota, but they didn't advance much after that.
Your news doesn't mention about Japanese EV, doesn't mean there are no Japanese EV. 🤦🤦. They do make EV, just not as famous as Tesla or China's EVs.
@@cinpeace353 Wait they do?
@@bmanpura they build the best Hybrids, they build EV's, they build hydrogen cars. U don't know what ur talking about now do you.
Subsidies? In the EU? Never 😂🤡
is there any industry that can survive without goverment subsidy??
They have a lot of ways to give away your money and increase your taxes.
Im happy to see countries making Going Green into a competition. I didnt think i'd see the day.
The European commission is not Europe.
That's like saying the United States is not "America". While technically true, it's also irrelevant. If you aren't in the EU...You really are irrelevant in the European and global landscape.
As deeply pro-European I confirm. The present equation looks like Europe = EU Commission = German interest = Russian connections. It has to change in the interest of EU.
@@ms7703 deeply pro European? Ok man😬
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Green subsidies have proven to be wastefully expensive. Enjoy the devaluation of the Euro, and the rise of inflation and public discourse.
Right after US cuts EU off from cheap Russian gas lol...
Green means money, only rich countries can buy green; poor countries having no industry are green.
Europe is a competitor what did you expect the U.S. to do ?
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Leopard tanks are NOT exactly GREEN
Ukrainians may disagree except your kremlin paymasters will be worried.
Zelensky the clown??
@@tomalmow3814 The clown is clowning Pootin. Nyet? Orcs troll
@@maneshipocrates2264 Do you mean that President Putin can kick but in Kiev??
Russian tanks run on solar power?
Speaking about green and on the other side supplying deadly weapons to Ukraine is not eco friendly . It means war friendly 😀
bigger context:
the us is in an arms race with both china and russia. the us real wages are going down while the debt is increasing. in contrast to afghanistan in '80s, the us has to spend much more on winning against russia in ukraine. the west will now create more inflation, more debts and probably raise more taxes for the sake of world domination and enormous subsidies.
at the same time, china is growing economically, politically and militarily. the gulf states which are earning enormously on high oil and gas prices as well as china have started competing with the imf in lending money which means more influence for them. the eu is sinking and will thus be a much weaker partner of the us. if china doesn't go to war and waits, the us sanctions on china will backfire in the form of expensive products in the us and an enormous decrease in sales to china. the west wants a hot war with china because it is the only way it can win.
When ever these clowns lay out a "new" plan. Remember its going to cost you big time
Sounds like greed on the behalf of the EU. So what if America is offering Americans a subsidy for a usa made electric car. If its made and sold in the same country it has a much lower carbon footprint working towards greener future.
Thank you, DW, for an excellent reporting. May I ask, what was the point of allowing lady's background voice from 4:29 to 4:40 ?
It's cut from live programming. Probably just an user error with the screen composing software.
Why Europe elect a American representative with an European name to “lead” Europe parliament ?
Using Solar and Wind Energies via battery storage will mean that we all have to switch to low voltage including mass transmission of electricity but this is not feasible during winter if you dun wanna depend of coal or woods burning but rather electric heater. Robust electric heaters are bigger and power on higher wattages.
Green?? The windmill mafia is NOT ‘green’😮😢😮
Well but the US just replaces their Car Dependency with new cars. Why follow into this concrete dungeon? Europe should focus on a new smart grid and more efficiency. Instead of wasting Solar panels in the north invest in Southern Europe and a Co-Op with North Africa (Morocco or Tunisia) . I always believe Europe can develop a alternative position to China and the US.
The reporting isn't specific enough here. Yes, the signed act also has a tax credit for american build ev's, but the elephant in the room are the over 300 billion that will flow into subsidizing pv, wind and storage production facilities in the US. If Europe doesn't keep up with the world market here, then energy dependance will flow from the oil and gas producing nations directly to China and the US, instead of building a self reliant production for itself.
@@Psi-Storm I guess but in US media it isn´t specific either in my opinion. Often its just "bring back jobs" instead of Green transition. Here in Germany we subsidize Solar and afterwards Chinese took it nevertheless, factories were closed and shipped. So EU needs a bit more than money rather a complete "strategy" including Intelligence Defense. So many German companies were spied on it happens all over Europe, yet everyone fights alone.
@@sunrae3971 China abused that Germany effectively subsidized the end customer, so they only had to give out cheap investment credits to build pv production, to push out all European manufacturers. And the German subsidies then went to China instead of staying in Europe, basically paying them to push us out of the market, by scaling faster. It would have been smarter for Germany to subsidise the production, like the EU is doing for the farmers every year, but that wasn't allowed due to EU regulations back then.
Germany 6T external debt
France 7T external debt
Entire EU is drowned in debt
Subsidies yeah!
Do you think the external debt goes down if Europe goes from it's oil dependancy to buying pv, wind and storage from the US.
International market makes no sense green wise. Moving goods across the world is not the way to go when going green. Producing and selling locally is the adaptation that as to happen for the markets to be green, greener.
I'm sending prayers for my friends in Europe...
When will Ursula Von uks trial for fraud take place? Pfizer
Nobody cares.
@@pipo4158 Exactly, nobody cares about EU anymore..
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@@randomguy7175 That because Eu does not exist anymore is now middle east
Let see how much people care about green transition once all of it is in war
a fear of european companies being unfairly muscled out of the U.S.?
How many Chevrolets, Buicks and Chrysler have been driving on European roads during the past 30 years?
Compare that to the VW's, MB's, BMW's, Porsche's on U.S. roads.
The eurpoean argument was always "oh well, we apparently make the better products, let the free market forces decide"
Yup....time to turn things around a bit.
- Sales policy GM: as long as GM owned the German brand Opel (and Vauxhall), Opel was allowed to sell in Europe but was denied to sell its models elsewhere.
- American automakers scarecly design models attractive to the broad European taste, but some make their way into the European market anyway, mostly SUV's and trucks. Crysler PT Cruiser, Voyager, and Crossfire for example are popular models. My favourite was the Crysler LeBaron.
It also has to do with landscape and population density. They are entirely different. The normal traveling distances are shorter, a time range of 1 ½ hour which would be a trip from one bigger town to another, already feels like half a world trip. The roads in towns are narrower, as are the parking lots.
- Ford is a pretty popular brand in Europe, especially the models Fiesta, Escort, Focus, and Mondeo), which are produced in Europe and also exported to other countries.
- Models of German brands are produced in America VW (Chattanooga, Tennesee), Mercedes (Tuscaloosa County, Alabama), BMW (Spartanburg, South Carolina), and also exported to other countries. They offer a vocational training program in cooperation with community colleges, too similar to the German apprenticeship scheme.
Mrs. von der Leyen's face, even though she had traveled a long way from Europe to Kyiv, she still looked more beautiful and happier when von der Leyen was with her husband. .What has created the happiness of a woman when the woman is not with her husband?
Meanwhile in the UK...
Subsidiaries for wealthy, new car buyers , we're do the taxes come from.
Are they stopping subsidies for oil and gas? Are they looking to reduce consumption? No? Then it's greenwashing
The world must unit as one big force to fight for climate change. Climate disasters caused many lives and huge financial losses. Therefore, investment in green technology is a wisely initiative and cost effective to combat climate disasters in the world.
China would love the west to blow up their own factory’s and energy plants. 😂
Video title should be “Funding the green transition scam”
USA here, where should I switch my investmentents to on robinhood?
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Of no real importance as the real problem is being ignored. The world's population is already about 9 billion and still rising, nothing is being done to address the true problem.
China? India? Nature? US killings/ abortion? Warmongers? Drug suppliers, Starvation, hypothermia?
Thank you Putin for fast forward the Green Revolution.
US and China helping his economy. EU help Ukraine .
So EU see Ukraine like biggest investment then owns economy. 🙄
Green investments will go bad. Electric cars are practically useless and not an efficient consumption of energy. The batteries are not cost effective, are very heavy and expensive. Petroleum fuel is much more efficient in energy production. Windmills have severe limits. Solar panels can be useful but can also destroy the environment around them. With solar energy you have limitations caused by time of year and weather conditions and must once again use batteries for storage. I live in Texas, and we have tried it all. We use a mix of windmills (freeze up in our winters), solar (will not work on days without sun and must use batteries for storage). Oil is still the most efficient fuel for heat production and to run cars. Hydroelectric is great and used all over our country but during drought situations in the west (last 20 years here) can be less reliable.
Since they are only interested in profit ( not the planet and it’s inhabitants) of course they are rotten.
This will be the last resort of these type US related officials in EU.
Electric cars produce significantly more greenhouse gases than fossil-fuel powered cars. This is because of the greenhouse gases produced in mining battery materials and manufacturing the large batteries that are linked to electric cars. However, fossil-fuel powered cars are not as good as hybrid cars when it comes to C02 emission. Hybrid cars have small batteries compared to electric cars.
Production, yes. Looking at the lifetime emissions of the vehicle, electric cars emit far less.
And how much greenhouse gases are emitted by the production, and materials, of a regular car?
@@magnem1043 just imagine how much energy you have to produce to replace all of the inner combustion engines which work as tiny energy generator by itself. If an average car has it's own ~100kw power unit I guess we should speak of hundreds of terawatts of extra power generation. At first, where you plan to get such amount of Uranium for nuclear? I don't even speak of a number of new reactors that Europe should build.
As I understand it, my thermodynamic engine with an efficiency of 90% will be superfluous on this festive boom of Green Technologies. And when it appears en masse, you will understand how much money and effort was wasted, just down the drain. that path you have chosen (humanity).
Europe needs to realize the Marshall plan has been over for years.
70 years
So the European union thinks that the USA will subsidies their company ,nonsense
US - IRA - is not a EU subsidy. The new EU tracking regulations will stop incompetence and corruption - is that what US is frightened of?
@@niburu1508 European union needs to fight their corruption first
@@kwakuagyapong2677 they ALL Need to ‘fight’ their own corruption. Not one before the other. US seems unaware of what constitutes Corruption.
They need to put way more money into studying space weather.
Salderen for Energy transition. And they wanna killit. Kill Rooftop Solar and Profit for ordinary people with Solar. Vote for Salderen for Rooftop Solar Work and clean Energy. Support Salderen.
Yeah and this war in Ukraine is using masses of carbon emissions 😂
Probably they don’t count - it’s the US/nato HEL pING another country via death and destruction.
The EU is a "garden," according to the Spaniard Josep Borrell. No greening is needed unless it is to print more money.
Batteries have a lifespan. Solar panels have a life span. This is going to get us nowhere when we run out of materials to build batteries and solar panels.
We can find new material and new technology. In 100 years maybe all the EU will have nuclear plant based on the Tokamak technology (nuclear fusion)
@@alganis3339EU is (was) interested in "green" H2 produced on Siberia with Russian gas. What Russians would do with the remaining CO2 was not in the agenda. Where is EU involvement in nuclear fusion ? Do not mention ITER, you can kill audience with laughter. Any reasonable discussion on ecology is forbidden in EU. What about the ADAC report on electric cars ? Did you hear about it ? No ? ADAC (respected German automobil club) electric car has lower CO2 footprint than diesel (!) afer driving 200 000 km. Do not comply with greenwashing.
Even with green Energies like solar, and wind power energies via oil transformers to step up the electricity voltages with current transmission network, there will be inevitable power shortage supplies.
This is a Seat of the pants knee-jerk reaction. It won't last. It won't get anywhere.
DW NEWS DO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT DA IRANIAN SHIP IN THE PANAMA CANAL?
Modern nuclear power production should be embraced together with renewables as net "zero" path
France got it's wish and has nuclear labeled as green tech, so investments are part of the sri. But there is no company in the world that currently offers nuclear reactors that can produce cheap electricity. The EPR reactors they are currently trying to build in France and UK, will produce energy that costs more than 25 cents/kwh, while onshore wind and pv can produce for 5 cents/kwh, even with battery storage for intermittent production, nuclear is more expensive.
I am impressed that EU is fighting back against the US bullying. 👍👍👍 How much longer is EU going to support the US proxy war and continue paying for the high energy costs?
eu has a chance to create a robust green industry it can then export abroad.
Yeah, because everyone is going to want insanely expensive, horribly unreliable energy. /s
@@PistonAvatarGuy solar is cheaper than any gas or oil?
@@foxooo Only when you cherry-pick data and ignore its variability.
For example: Where do you get your energy at night when you're dependent on solar? Batteries? An entirely different energy system which also must be bought and paid for? How do you deal with winter time, when a solar energy system produces 40 to 60 percent less energy than in summer? Dealing with the variability of solar costs an enormous amount of money and makes solar the most expensive energy source there is.
we need to stop the arctic ice sheets from melting. we need to do geo-engineering to save animal species!
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This is great. Western countries can obsess over greenie stuff, just leave the rest of us out of it. It means more oil, gas and coal for the rest of the world. Thanks.
There is a symbiotic relationship between consumerism and industrialization. But clean energy and green transition are not intrinsic parts of this equation because reversing the climate digression does not generate income.
One way of integrating environmental issues is by considering the climate as a commodity that has its own fungible and tradable value. And convincing customers that the most desirable commodity is the climate and that climate currency supersedes the value of any other commodity.
Climate is not the most desirable commodity, I'd say by a longshot. Individuals will never choose climate over money, being healthy and being able to choose aka freedom. If organisations don't force the populace, if governments don't bind climate importance into law, nothing would come of the green revolution. Climate is too far removed from the individual. Much further than health, purchasing power and freedom.
@@Habib_Osman Dear Habib Osman, I agree with you, governments need to make the environmental resources, earthy water, and the atmosphere a valuable commodity before people will accept the consequences of taking the environment for granted. The sooner we realize that we can no longer take the environment for granted the better the chance of extending the habitation of humankind. The situation needs to deteriorate dramatically before such drastic steps are implemented. Imagine for a moment that every global citizen will have to pay a fee (a tax fee) for breathing, eating, and using anything that we derive from the earth and the atmosphere. We are paying governments for their administrative services but the environment is simply there to be used. We now realize that using the resources within our environment comes at a price.
Best regards, Alex.
I'm tired of seeing people in suits
Love it time to take real action and go GREEN!
Please go Green. In India China and Africa we'll use coal, drive SUVs and watch while you freeze and Save Us.
@@ramdev9578 okay then you get the brunt of climate change. Pretty sure it was well over 100 degrees in India over the summer. Also coal emissions literally kill tens of thousands throughout the Global South.
@@franzjoseph1837 100 degrees is normal. Our lifespan is more than the west. There you freeze to death, so many homeless and old people. So sad. But you can lead the way. And Save Us. We'll watch from the luxury of coal energy.
@@franzjoseph1837 The Pfizer vaccine wasn't allowed in India, so don't worry about us dropping dead of Suddenly. The Global South can take care of itself, you look to see where your next meal is coming from.
@@ramdev9578 Wait, what? The life expectancy within the European Union for men is 77.8 years and 83.3 years for women.
The current life expectancy for India in 2023 is 70.42 years and 64.11 years in Africa. China does better than India and Africa with 77.47 years life expectancy.
The current life expectancy for U.S. in 2023 is 79.11 years.
The western countries' citizens do live longer on average 😂😂😂
LNG Tarminal..
We should have invested this industry much earlier not to keep up with competing economies but to accelerate the transition towards more climate friendly future. It is going to benefit everyone by transitioning early or put it another way if we are slow to transition everyone is going to suffer through climate change and the people and their governments will be paying for the cost of this suffering in lives and economic damage. Investing in this industry isn't about fairness it's about having an insurance for the future. Yes we would be picking winners and influencing the market but in this case there is a urgency that I believe is more important.
I am sorry to tell you, but the time to invest early in renewables is now past.
Eu politicians seem more determined and seem alot more motivated by passion for the work rather than trivial power/wealth. Ofc im just talking generally, there are exeptions.
Most European politicians are surprised what big step forward that act was for the green energy production in the US. Basically over night the US went from a fossil fuel producer and consument, to a place where all their green industry will move, they planned to build over the next 2 decades to reach climate neutrality.
hope can keep some factories in Europe not move most profitable business to US and China
Don't forget Developing countries. Without them There is no Green futuristic
Yeah more coal….😂😂😂
The fools compete who is going to bring the most light into house by using bags.
What BS! All on paper but little will ever be built!
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Buy a diesel, to reduce the taxes subsidizing the billionaires.
You can sure tell that she hasn't ever jumped into a Corvette and Put The Hammer Down 😆🤪
Pray, what's the apeal of a Corvette?
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@@ioneldobrin6613 I'm a Motor Head read my second comment 🤷🏻♂️
The only green they want is dollars from uncle Sam. Europe wants free stuff from the US 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
Fist must find a solution rich poor gap, probably rethink of monetary policies.
Car companies need the American market cos in Europe the margins are smaller. The smaller the car the smaller the margins. For example Ford no longer produce small cars for USA... 🧐
Theres are 32 oil and gas producing states and many are going to ban electric cars.
Germany soon with silex energy!. 3 or 4 years before his banckrut....
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Dear EU, cut your protective tariffs that prevent US goods from being sold in the EU on a level playing field and then we can talk.
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The key question is, how much is the bill for green?
The salaries of European MPs have been raised by 7%. Can they turn green first, such as reducing nonsense and reducing air pollution?
Higher salaries help reduced corruption.
@@Commievn Always thought it stimulated corruption. The taste of money making them want even more of it.
Salaries of most of the MP just follow inflation...
Trillions have already been swindled for 30 years to Save The World from Climate Change. That's why EU and the UK are broke and the laughing stock of the real world.
As I understand it, my thermodynamic engine with an efficiency of 90% will be superfluous on this festive boom of Green Technologies. And when it appears en masse, you will understand how much money and effort was wasted, just down the drain. that path you have chosen (humanity).
Ideas, etcs are great, but executing them is another challenge, I do fear that the 'coal face' highly skilled workforce is in shortage. Especially with dangerous technologies like batteries, etc.
It's an acid investment.
Once the deadzones expand in the ocean from sea to shining sea the acidity will end all life.
Thanks for playing.
How about a nice game of chess?
Free markets what a joke! Keep this video handy for next time someone says anything about Marxist being the ones that live in a utopian world.
As if Germany coal mines are greener and leopard tank run by green energy ..
shame on the EU for promoting war and taking about green economy.
It’s ridiculous😅
You are barking up the wrong tree. Russia invaded. I assume you are from India, how about fixing your dump as a country first. In my country we can drink the water from the lakes and rivers, how does your sewage mixed with trash water taste. Go take a drink and please explain the experience.
Promoting war? Yes, they attacked ua from the east... What a brilliant move :)
Prayers? Or are they throwing the log in on these guys now...
I came to the conclusion that the future belongs to maintenance-free aluminum chlorine batteries...🤓
chlorine solutions will remove the oxide film from aluminum electrodes and evenly distribute the load over the entire area in order to slow down electrochemical corrosion as much as possible...
the electrodes themselves will be made of alloys and the proportion of aluminum "at least 50-60%" of the total volume of metal. the remaining elements will be distributed according to the levels of "price categories" of future elements - silicon and iron are the basis of additional minerals and small combinations of - magnesium, strontium, barium, manganese, calcium, sodium, potassium and titanium...
it is even possible to alloy with nickel, chromium and zirconium with molybdenum - but the price and value for such a battery will be thousands of times higher and will soon go into the military category of goods under special control...
in terms of safety and maintenance - there will be a special hermetic membrane (thin durable polymer or chemically resistant rubber), like a small ball, it will begin to inflate 3-5 mm in height when there is a high temperature and a lot of pressure, and if the battery boils, the gas pressure relief valve will work a special chemical-neutralization gasket so that hydrogen chloride and pure hydrogen are not so toxic and explosive from the outside...
the electrolyte solution itself will be selected relative to the electrode alloy - but strict limits on the amount of chlorine and perchloric acids in the solution are necessary - so that there is no sediment and the electrodes do not corrode - this, like in old lead-acid batteries, is called the working density of the electrolyte...
interelectrode fillers made of glass-sponge material or multilayer dense fiberglass (with a certain chemical composition for individual operating ranges and capacities), or natural cotton and viscose fabrics with polymer and acrylic impregnations, followed by full and partial carbonization - to increase the strength and life expectancy of the filler...
there are options with sulfuric acid, phosphorus compounds and fluorine compounds - but the most versatile is chlorine ones - high current output and reliability due to the volatility of chlorine in a closed sealed volume (pure chlorine will be dissolved in water and reattach to metals and will not precipitate like phosphorus or sulfur ) but tightness is needed...
can be made and serviced, but this hemorrhoids are worse than with sulfuric acid, everything is also due to the volatility of chlorine and the inability to hermetically close the cell covers - as an option, make very strong-thick covers with a special lever-key, since you can’t even close tightly with your bare hands the best athletes - so that chlorine does not evaporate to the outside during active battery operation...
Europe is in trouble. 🤔
I rather say Putin is in trouble 😊
@@80-80. No everyone is in trouble. This green deal is not gonna to work for the US.
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Just cars and energy source.
What battle that Belgium 🇧🇪 lady is talking about?
EU member state cannot do an industry when their respective nation does not have the infrastructure or network.
Impractical politician talk.
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