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"Wait, he still hes mate in 5 with only a few queens?!" -National Chess Master, Nelson Lopez
And can't see basic M2
he looked at the engine
@@ugi062 literally I was shouting "get the queen to h7 bro wth😭"
Mate in 8 with 5 queens as well
How to play customize games like this?
How I can play this?
Can someone help me?
You may have heard of Martin Luther King
Introducing: Martin Losing Queens
lol my name is martin
lol my name is losing queens
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In the first game Martin is definitely a paid actor😂
Also: 4:38 i like how Nelson is like a spoiled kid of rich parents in the mall." I want this one, and this one, and ooohh also this one"
I like that analogy
Wrong channel
@@AbdullahKhan-el6xw they are like freelancers that can be hired by all chess channels😂
Not chess simp
I solemnly swear that I am not an paid/unpaid actor.
i would have loved to se an analyse of the last game where you went from 133 to martin having a 133
It's just a signed byte overflow issue. There aren't supposed to be that many points of material on the board for either player so you use a byte or some other signed small value to store the eval.
With as many queens as black had the count went over the max and was treated as a negative. This has the side effect of screwing up the branch pruning as the computer tries to evaluate different moves, and probably explains some weird behavior at first.
For instance taking an unprotected pawn might actually decrease blacks point advantage by making the overflow even more severe.
it might just be because whites pawns are in a position where if enough queens are sacrificed one queen can get in the back rank and start taking all the pawns because pawns can’t defend from behind
He blundered mate. The F file probably became to weak and the queen’s could smash trough
kartoffel
@@ericblair5731 im pretty sure that they use ints for the eval which definitely don't overflow at 133 lol. It would therefore also not affect branch pruning as it evals the moves correctly. it'd be too easy to f up stockfish if what you said was the case.
there is probably another reason. (Toby Marx-Dunn made a fair point)
2:32 It was at this point when both Martin and Nelsi in their infinite GM wisdom decided to repeat moves as the position was a guaranteed draw.
"of all the games this is the silliest, let's not play this anymore" - GM Martin, 2022.
2:38 Martin with the super GM draw
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And you have the Seychelles profile picture! Love it
8:15 Your M2 was Qhg7+. Martin can only play Qf7, at which point Q7xf7#.
I always feel bad not being able to find a mate in 2 so it comforts me a bit when nelson fails to do it as well.
Yup saw that
Before this comment
damm this one is hard to spot for me :(
Was looking for this comment lol
just love the theoretical GM draw in game one. High level stuff
I was super impressed with how you worked out he had mate in x so swiftly, and then I realised the game just tells you in the top left. So now I'm just super impressed with, y'know, everything else.
my thought on the first game is that the position almost forces martin to make "good" moves because the only pieces that can move are his most forward pawns and thus the vast majority of available moves are good ones.
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Martin being super aggressive with the pawns in the first game I think makes sense for a bot with a low depth since "takes with the pawn" is, at worst, a trade, so it probably always reads as gaining in material and thus a high value move. I think that's why he can also usually spot mate in 1 or 2 but anything beyond that he rarely finds except by accident. This would also explain why he's a lot worse with so many queens, because trading a queen for a pawn is something that reads as obviously BAD at a low search depth since he'd need to be able to see farther into the future to recognize the value of a sacrifice, so he's more conservative despite having enough queens that he can probably just brute force tunnel his way through all your pawns with them.
How do i install this cheess game?
@@SupremeSkibidi Chess Vibes has a video on it
I think it's simpler than that. When you have that only pawns, a large percentage of all possible moves are move a pawn forward or take a piece diagonally with the pawn. Both improve his position. Even if you picked moves completely randomly, they have to be good. Martin is forced to play good moves when every legal move is a good move.
5:17 thats probably the biggest eval swing I've ever seen in a non-mate position +133 to the brinks of defeat -133
The behavior of the evaluator almost looks like there's a numeric overflow going on - the advantage is so large for black that it "wraps around" and gets displayed as an advantage for white. The sudden transition is where the advantage goes from overflowing the maximum advantage to no longer overflowing, and kicks back to the correct (if you weren't playing Martin) "black is winning". However, if this is the case, I'd expect it to wrap around at 128, not 133 (since 128 is a power of 2 and numeric overflow is an artifact of computers' base-2 representation of numbers), so I'm not sure if that's what is actually happening.
@@ryanstejskal1506 It might also be that it's just that the position starts in a way where forcing 1v1 trades is always happening so piece quality is maybe irrelevant and the move first advantage for white is more important?
How do i install this cheess game?
Exactly 200 points
A proof that an idiot with money isn’t better than a genius without money
Seems like Martin doesn't want to lose a queen to get a pawn.
How do i install this cheess game?
@@SupremeSkibidi You can play this in the website Chess dot com or you can install it on your phone, the app is called Chess by chess dot com...
Martin with pawn:🥶🥶
Martin with queens:🥸
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I just loved it when you said “I want this one, and I want this one”, when you were capturing the pawns!
I love the analysis “yeah I was afraid of that” after a pawn takes a piece. “There’s just so many pawns” 😂
4:00 you dug a hole for him and he fell in. Lol.
Engine: mate in 3
Martin: hold my beer
😂😂😂
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There are very few different moves when all you can move is your front pawns. It makes sense that it plays better.
Martin is in all actuality a beast on the chessboard..
its just that he is a pacifist who abhors violence and cares more about his opponents well being than his own.
Lol love this headcanon
The embarrassment of losing a queen to a palm is too unbearable for martin
Ah yes, the good old palm chess piece
How did you get the analysis board tgo allow panws on the first rank, it gets throwing up errors when I try.
I have another challage: reverse the last position(give yourself queens) but you need to make Martin win. I think it will be harder than this. :)
pawns - max agresion
queens - timid sheep for slaughter
4:23 this is actually better for having pawns because in this position the both of the pieces do the same thing, and since he has more pawns, he can just trade if all pieces and still have pawns left over for promotion.
Laughed wholeheartedly at the result of the first game.
It was truly peak Martin. You never know quite what to expect : there's ALWAYS another twist up his sleeve
checkmate by promotion to a knight is the most based thing i have ever seen
It seems that in the last game you actually had a 30-point advantage according to the computer. Does that mean you could beat stockfish with 31 queens?
2:38 chess is draw when played perfectly..
5:20 I think I know exactly why the evaluation swung wildly. After that move he's got enough queens on the diagonal attacking h2 so you couldn't stop him from getting in the backline!
this has happened in some other crazy positions too, where the evaluation is so high to one side that stockfish freaks out and displays the opposite side winning instead
nah, it has something to do with the way the eval bar is programmed, the value is so high it goes to the other end and ends up being negative, but it gets corrected after a small variation on the valuation
bro when i saw the title i was like: no way thats possible lol
Interested to see those M8s by Martin. Curious what lines the computer will take
3-5 moves to get two queens behind the pawns, rest to checkmate the king.
7:36
Martin can only see an M2 or M1. Anything else (M3 or deeper), Martin struggles to see.
Also, at 9:50, can't you have played c6+ ? You would win Martin's last queen...
I would love to see somebody create the theoretically worst chess bot. It could be an altered version of stockfish that makes the worst move instead of the best. I tried looking for one but couldn’t find it.
One bad AI could also compute are the legal moves and pick a random one. 😁
When finding the worst move, does it assume that its opponent will also play his worst move? Or does it assume that its opponent will play his best move?
@8:13 mate in 2: corner queen to G7; black queen blocks; take black queen by moving from G7 to F7.
Martin would lose even against a king😂😂😂
Nah he woud get checkmated
"lets get my king more for safety" Eval bar - M6
Eval bar on the third one had a stroke
How are you able to change the pieces?
8:11 Qhh7, but noone is perfect
My favorite part: "What is Martin doing?" hahaha.
I played Martin myself against 31 queens. I actually lost the first 2 times. Then I realized I just had to advance my pawns together and Martin won't take them.
how do you do these interactions?
how can I play custom positions like these ?
How do you set it up like this?
How do you have that "bar" set up during the game
Where can I play these puzzles?
At this point, Martin is no more the dumb guy at his class
8:10 Mate in two is: Qhg7+, Qf7, 7xf7#
Martins's king piece do be sleeping around.
how do you do custom positions bro
I was surprised that Nelson missed the mate in 2 at 8:11
I mean I get that this position is untypical but still...
1. Qhg7+ (Qhg8+ also work) Qf7
2. Q7xf7#
9:50 why didnt u move pawn from c5 one up ?
Excellent video the first game made me laugh poor Martin.
Can you beat Martin with just a bishop and a king Nelson? I've seen it done but it does look very tricky 😳 🤔
If pawns can only move 1 if they start on the first line if they move to the 2nd line could they then move 2?? To the 4th line??
1:33 Instead of Nxd5, the best move was Nxh5. After gxh5, Rxh5 and you don't lose your rook.
8:14 H7 queen was the mate in 2, king can't go anywhere so he must block with the queen
Let's swab position for even much more fun
Stockfish / Komodo dragon 3200 ELO vs NM Nelson 2200 ELO with 31 Queens
LOL
Interesting, what is the max count of moves, until mate. With queens vs pawns. Focus to upper right pawn and take material, until diagonal is open. So roundabout 5 moves. No move to decrease velocity 🤔
8:14 the M2 was
Qh7+, he is forced to block with his queen, then u take it and checkmate!!!
Which queen tho? Theres 2 queens that can Go there
Where do we arrange such a custom chess design? Can someone help?
How do I get custom starts like this?
In the queen challenge, the mate in 2 was Qh7, feel free to correct me if im wrong
Can anyone explain why pawns are favored so much by the engine in the queens vs pawns game? Is it because going first is really good in that position for some reason, or is it just because the engine doesn't want to deal with such a ridiculous board?
When the quad stacked pawns are one of the least cursed parts of the video
That was a cute video. :) "How much of an advantage does Martin need to beat a grandmaster?"
How do i install this cheess game?
go martin go!
3:59 This could be in a chess puzzle
For mate in 2 u just had to go Qh8 to Qg7 then when he blocks u just take with Qg7
the 1st game: When games are played perfectly, It will always end in a draw
martin mate in 8 well i have difficult times doing this but lucky i found it. Actually i think its not mate in 8 cuz i found some mate in 7 moves well here it is
Qaa7 trying to attack the king well we will block it with a pawn so e3, then black will sacrifice his queen to check the king so Qaxc2 then we play bxc2, and also we dont want to take the pawn on c2 since we want the diagonal of the 2 queens so i have to play first Qxe3 so that my Queen on c6 will attack the c2 pawn and the diagonal so that we can prepare for the attack so Qxe3 and why not c3 blocking the attack well the two queens on the diagonal can lead to checkmate
why not c3?
Well first move is Qf2+ any king moves is now a checkmate if Kh1 then Qg1 is checkmate and if Kh3 then Qh7 is a checkmate.
So lets continue....
Qxe3 then Qxc2+ anywhere king moves its a checkmate in 2 except Kg3, and if queen blocks theres Qe2 and Qd2, ill explain one by one
If Kg3:
Qxe5+ any king moves leads a mate so queen blocks at f4 then Qg1+ no matter king goes Qh8# its checkmate.
If Qd4:
Qxd4+ then King either h1, h3 or g3 and ill discuss this again one by one....
if Kg3:
Qg1+ any king moves Qh2#
if Kh3:
Qh7+ king moves to g3 then Qh2#
if Kh1:
might be tricky to find since if i move Qh7+ its a mate in 2 still. But theres still another way which is Qxe5 threating checkmate on the next move since king cannot move any move white plays Qh2#
One final move is Qe4:
Qxe4+ its still the same moves in Qxd4+
so dont worry I calculated this in almost 20 minutes, its a true challenge for me.
Well its checkmate in 7 not 8 didn't use any chess apps reply to me if theres something i missed thx :)
Too long i guess ;-;
You might be saying at the earlier after Qa7 why not block it with the d pawn, well to open up a file for the b5 Queen to attack the king and youre making 3 queens aligned at the diagonal
@Pronesstrus one question, remember if Qd4 then Qxd4+, if i play Kh1 then I play f4 blocking the Qh2#, where should I move?
@@DemicotCute Qh8# lol anyways thx for your question
After seriously damaging his position with some rows of fivefold-pawns Martin still managed to to draw the game. Impressive. 🤣🤣🤣
He should've begun with, "Once a pawn a time..."
Martin the type of player to play better with all pawns vs all queens
Solo una cosa ¿porque le cambiaste de español latino a castellano en el final?
8:11 how did you not find that mate 😂😂😂
Many of these remind me of the variant "Dunsanyi's Chess"
I suck at chess never tried learning besides basic move ability, so I always lose to people who actually play the game but WOW this challenge to me should have been him winning or at worst a draw every game.
Imagine, the all day “case” between Martin (King) and all those wifes lol
I fell like Nelson is disrespecting Martin to much and Martin just is trying because he would destroy Nelson if he did
8:12 mate in 2 is h8 queen goes g7 check he has to put the queen f7 and queen x f7 is checkmate #
The problem with a lot of pawns for Martin is that he doesnt have a lot of choice at the beginning, do he chooses good moves.
How did you do it?
9:50 missed fork
How does one make custom games like this?
How do I get or give extra pawns, queens or whatever??
All my sacrifices means nothing ~Martin
When the king is a lucky guy 😂
How many times have you played against Martin in total from all your videos 😅
Martin's GOD MOD
M2 was queen from h8 to g7, king has no where to go so can only block with queen from f4 to f7, then take qf7 checkmate haha
I like the delayed bongcloud opening in the first game.
how do you do this?
8:11 Q h8 to h7 is mate in 2 i think because the only move black can do is blocking on f7 and then you take
Yeah, I was surprised he didnt see it. I saw it and im 750, lol
@@Bismarck-S im 950 lol
@@toolng1798 Im, 1100 now
at 8:10 the M2 is Qhh7+ qf7, Qhxf7#
Second mate was nice
How about trying to beat worstfish with worstfish having a full board of only queens. and you having a normal setup
No matter how much more material martin has HE STILL DRAWS OR LOSES!!!!
The last game was so easy. Just go with the queens to the button of board. Mate, after loosing like 5/31 queens.