Nice back track! I guess everyone has an overlord to keep happy. Yeah, the Hightower which drops tomorrow, will be identical to the Bronson. They should just use a "flip chip" for MX and 29er.
@@sirvince7853 Damn, I was hoping it didn’t come across like that but I guess it was inevitable. For the record nobody leant on me from SC or their distributor here in the UK and personally I’m still not a fan of the new changes on Bronson. But when I pull my head out of my own hard pedalling perversions it’s pretty clear I’m in a very small minority compared to most mountain bikers I see riding bikes with this much travel. If anything it was the UA-cam video that MBR posted discussing the written review I did for them that made me second guess my initial thoughts. I couldn’t possibly comment on Hightower, apart from saying drop by in 6 hours and you might see another SC video on here 😏 whether it’ll make any sense I don’t know though as it’s 2:40am here and I only just finished editing it!
Darn. I'm a little bummed that the new Bronson isn't as poppy and lively as the previous. Reading the tea leaves, I guess future full suspension SC bikes will be getting heavier, more slack, planted and less lively than they are now. Since this bike rides more like a Nomad (it's geo is almost identical the the current Nomad), the next Nomad will probably be getting an equal bump in descending performance to match. Also sounds like you have a new Hightower on deck for review as well. Looking forward to it.
I hope the next nomad will be a freeride/“freeduro”/park rig like the spindrift. I rode the N4 for ages but recently dismantled it to build a v10 as I rode my 5010.4 90 per cent of times but I do start to miss a capable bike that I don’t have to push up..
@@MrGourd nothing worse that doing a big ride on a heavy, slow feeling bike. I’d have to actually ride these bikes to see but most of the riding I do is punchy ups with short descents in New England and it’s a fine line with these bigger bikes. Too slack and the tech climbing is harder and any advantage on the downs doesn’t pay off for me.
Interesting that the new stumpy isn’t selling that well. I think it’s mostly bc of the lack of cable ports. But also in regards to what u said about travel: the 145 mm is enough travel for the bikes intended application, but ppl are too focused on the mm.
once they release the AL one, it should be ok however, I think the previous gen is better anyway people don't like electronic only stumpy option - that's the reason
@@grantwilliams2912probably, everything seems to shift to more travel and more stable geometry. Biggest question is what will happen to the mega/nomad as the bronson and hightower are coming pretty close. Hoping the nomad will become something along the lines of the spindrift, basically a freeride bike that can take a dropper and big cassette but can also be dressed up as a park rig.
I’m after a new bike. Hightower is an option. Bronson 5 is most likely. Right now. But… I’ll be waiting for the revamped 5010 first. And then decide. Having said that. The new Ibis Ripmo and Ripley are also tempting options.
Do you currently have both the Bronson and Hightower? It appears they are both using the same links and rumors are the front triangles are the same. Are the mounting points on the front triangle the same for both bikes? Is the only difference the shape of the rear triangle? Like a little longer and maybe extends down slightly more?
I have the previous Bronson, which I like, but I don't think Id get the new one. Not just because my tastes buck the trend you describe towards softer rear suspension, but because there's no longer an "xs" with 27.5" at the front. I could ride a bike with the new smalls reach (which seems the minimum these days), but only if the stack was much, much lower (i.e. small wheel/less travel).
Funny you say they prefer and FSR style linkage I’ve heard there next full fat ebike coming in October will have that type of link system with a Bosch Gen 5 motor
So the hightower is basically the same bike except it weighs less, and 29 f+r. I stay on the ground more and like speed. Is the hightower they way to go? Thanks again
Absolutely. Hightower has faster roll, lower weight and also pedals and pops better. If you like speed save that MaxxGrip front tyre for really sketchy days and fit a normal compound front though.
I have a question I'm cycling I hear clicking I've cleaned the new bottom bracket and regreased running a Shimano deore still get clicking I'm thinking it could be the rear mech?Santa Cruz bikes are nice I like the new models
Nice back track! I guess everyone has an overlord to keep happy. Yeah, the Hightower which drops tomorrow, will be identical to the Bronson. They should just use a "flip chip" for MX and 29er.
@@sirvince7853 Damn, I was hoping it didn’t come across like that but I guess it was inevitable. For the record nobody leant on me from SC or their distributor here in the UK and personally I’m still not a fan of the new changes on Bronson. But when I pull my head out of my own hard pedalling perversions it’s pretty clear I’m in a very small minority compared to most mountain bikers I see riding bikes with this much travel. If anything it was the UA-cam video that MBR posted discussing the written review I did for them that made me second guess my initial thoughts. I couldn’t possibly comment on Hightower, apart from saying drop by in 6 hours and you might see another SC video on here 😏 whether it’ll make any sense I don’t know though as it’s 2:40am here and I only just finished editing it!
Let's go, I'm ready for bed. 11pmy time very interested in your opinion and review. Come on send it lol. @@GuyKesTV
Darn. I'm a little bummed that the new Bronson isn't as poppy and lively as the previous. Reading the tea leaves, I guess future full suspension SC bikes will be getting heavier, more slack, planted and less lively than they are now. Since this bike rides more like a Nomad (it's geo is almost identical the the current Nomad), the next Nomad will probably be getting an equal bump in descending performance to match.
Also sounds like you have a new Hightower on deck for review as well. Looking forward to it.
@@MrGourd I reckon your tea leaves are right mate 👍🏻
I hope the next nomad will be a freeride/“freeduro”/park rig like the spindrift. I rode the N4 for ages but recently dismantled it to build a v10 as I rode my 5010.4 90 per cent of times but I do start to miss a capable bike that I don’t have to push up..
@@MrGourd nothing worse that doing a big ride on a heavy, slow feeling bike. I’d have to actually ride these bikes to see but most of the riding I do is punchy ups with short descents in New England and it’s a fine line with these bigger bikes. Too slack and the tech climbing is harder and any advantage on the downs doesn’t pay off for me.
Another honest review, BTW you are not an old man ;-)
@@JoesBikesUK my wrist is feeling pretty old after I just dropped the Hightower on the moor 😵💫
@@GuyKesTV Saw that, you love it don't ya ;-)
Interesting that the new stumpy isn’t selling that well. I think it’s mostly bc of the lack of cable ports. But also in regards to what u said about travel: the 145 mm is enough travel for the bikes intended application, but ppl are too focused on the mm.
@@FOTB407 I think you’re right on both counts. Be interesting so see how this sells
once they release the AL one, it should be ok
however, I think the previous gen is better anyway
people don't like electronic only stumpy option - that's the reason
Great insight.. I’ll head to the Hightower info asap. Will the 5010 get the VPP revisions and maybe a touch more travel?
@@grantwilliams2912probably, everything seems to shift to more travel and more stable geometry. Biggest question is what will happen to the mega/nomad as the bronson and hightower are coming pretty close. Hoping the nomad will become something along the lines of the spindrift, basically a freeride bike that can take a dropper and big cassette but can also be dressed up as a park rig.
@@ostankovalex1176 i think the new one looks much better without the asymmetrical brace. Surprised so many people like it tbh
I’m after a new bike. Hightower is an option. Bronson 5 is most likely. Right now. But… I’ll be waiting for the revamped 5010 first. And then decide. Having said that. The new Ibis Ripmo and Ripley are also tempting options.
Do you currently have both the Bronson and Hightower? It appears they are both using the same links and rumors are the front triangles are the same. Are the mounting points on the front triangle the same for both bikes? Is the only difference the shape of the rear triangle? Like a little longer and maybe extends down slightly more?
@@aguyholding1024 front ends and linkages are the same but Ive not got the bikes anymore so I’ll confirm how the differences are created with SC
Any word?@@GuyKesTV
I have the previous Bronson, which I like, but I don't think Id get the new one. Not just because my tastes buck the trend you describe towards softer rear suspension, but because there's no longer an "xs" with 27.5" at the front. I could ride a bike with the new smalls reach (which seems the minimum these days), but only if the stack was much, much lower (i.e. small wheel/less travel).
Funny you say they prefer and FSR style linkage I’ve heard there next full fat ebike coming in October will have that type of link system with a Bosch Gen 5 motor
@@rickmoz I couldn’t possibly comment 😏
@@GuyKesTV haha” I can’t say anything” nudge nudge wink wink
So the hightower is basically the same bike except it weighs less, and 29 f+r.
I stay on the ground more and like speed. Is the hightower they way to go?
Thanks again
Absolutely. Hightower has faster roll, lower weight and also pedals and pops better. If you like speed save that MaxxGrip front tyre for really sketchy days and fit a normal compound front though.
I have a question I'm cycling I hear clicking I've cleaned the new bottom bracket and regreased running a Shimano deore still get clicking I'm thinking it could be the rear mech?Santa Cruz bikes are nice I like the new models
The impression I get is they want to make it ride like a Specialized, which means I’d rather buy the previous model at a discount.
@@323johnnybravo don’t blame you, I would
Ride my Stumpy EVO on just about everything and none of these new bikes are calling out to me, especially due to the lack of ports.
If yo'u've got a Stumpy Evo you've got pretty much everything covered while others play catch up
@@GuyKesTV is the new Hightower close to the STEVO?
first
@@moosicman101 thanks for watching, that was quick
That giant ugly fender totally ruins the look of this beautiful bike!! :D
@@MikeBoarder-rw1ij sorry but Pete who makes them is a mate and channel sponsor