How to Install Audi S4 Springs | Project B8.5 S4
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- Опубліковано 3 тра 2018
- We show you how to install springs on a B8.5 Audi S4. These lowering springs were installed on a 2014 Audi S4, but would be the same on Most Audi B8/B8.5 A4, S4, A5 and S4 models.
H&R Springs Installed in this Video
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For anyone who does this in the future, it’s way easier to loosen and take off the bolt closest to the engine on the upper control arms, no banging/heat or frustration needed. I tried his method for about 3 hours, tried the second option and had the passenger side done in 45 mins
No way that pinch bolt came out that easy. I am on day 3 of battling that pinch bolt.
I removed the control arm from the top, at the upper strut mount. It was a lot easier.
I change my pinch bolt every summer
Wow what a fantastic video and a clear demonstration of you knowing your stuff down to the bolt sizes, that was very impressive indeed. I enjoyed watching the whole video. I do have to say though that I was bitterly disappointed at the end because you didn't show us the final result and so that we could clearly see the difference all your work actually made on the appearance of the car!!!! I was itching to see how much better the car looked after you dropped it!!!! In future with your videos please ensure to show us the final result so that we can see the fruits if your hard labour, so we can compare the before with the after! Many Thanks buddy!!!!!
Thanks for the video! It was key to helping me install new springs on my S4. Luckily my California car had no issues with the control arm joints,just popped right out. In the rear I recommend using the spring compressor like you did to remove the OEM springs, but I used straps to install the new springs, it was super easy this way. Thanks again! Also, thanks for the strut spreader tool, it worked great!
Really enjoy watching these videos. Very instructional and lots to learn from them..
Thanks! Gonna use this vid as a guide to lower my B8. I do recommend you loosen all suspension bushings and tighten with the suspension under load. Your control arms bushing can wear faster, flex and tear if you don't.
Wowzers I will never complain about working on the suspension of my BMW again
Also on the rear it's 100x easier to just drop the sub frame and the spring comes right out.
You taught me that bro I just put coil overs on my a4 and remembered this comment Dropped the subframe and now I can’t imagine doing it this way.
Can confirm, would have taken me 3x longer if It weren’t for this comment. Dropped the subframe and and springs come straight up. Thank you!
Great video. Great explanations and thanks for mentioning the wrench sizes - saves me a couple trips to the shed....lol
Im just about to do my allroad - I think i'll just leave it at factory height. We get a bit of snow and it's a winter car as well as summer.
Thanks again
PB Blaster is your friend. Apply a few days prior to doing this. It's makes everything 1000 times easier man...
Thanks to your video was able to save a ton of money on getting both rear springs changed and one was broken but was unsure if i can get them out without ripping the whole suspension apart
Morning .I from South Africa and do watch and follow your videos .the point is I tried to create account as to order some tools from you but on the options of countries I was not there,just clarity.thanx n keep the good work.
The pinch bolt on the first side I did was seized so I disconnected the control arms from the top where they connect to the strut mount. I used two 16mm wrenches and it was really easy. When assembling, you should connect the control arms back to the strut mount before installing the upper strut mount bolts, sway bar bolt, and lower strut mount bolt. This will allow you some room to get the control arms connected more easily. I did the second one this same way and it went a lot quicker.
I just installed H&R springs on my B6 A4 Avant, made a world of difference on the handling and feels more planted on the road.
how about speed bumps lol
Wow....thanks for the excellent tips!
Hope this helps. Just got done doing this and around the 20min mark when trying to sit the bushings, take out the top cover on the strut and with the bushings lined up with a jack from underneath, you can knock them in with a hammer and solid pipe. Don't know if that is what they are for but made it so easy. Just throwing that out there since I haven't seen anyone talk about it on UA-cam and made mine so much easier.
This worked! Thanks
Great tutorial and you were lucky as hell with the pinch bolt thats came out so easily , some people spend hours to remove it :)
total of 6 hours, 2 torches, a air hammer, milwaukee fuel impact, and half a case of beer, now to the next side ;)
Mine came out in seconds, thank god
@@joshuaelstermann3539 mine similar to @davidofonnell7103 :d roughly 3/4hrs for 1 side ^^
My lorde that looked like a pain in the ass
Awesome! Show us the final product and give an idea of the total working time. Cheers!
Thank you for excellent info.
My upper control arms just popped right out with the pinch bolt out, was super easy both sides b8 s4, my biggest struggle was the clamp that slides onto bottom of shock when re installing
what happened to the walk around and the comparison to stock? any rubbing issues with this much drop going into driveways or cornering?
InstaBlaster...
Thanks. Very informative. What wheels did you end up putting on? Stock? Would you be able to use 20" x 9 with P-Zero 265/30-20 tires..or do you need to stick with the stock S4 19" wheels?
Awesome 👍
I wish my pinchbolt came out that easy!
As you can clearly see, the bolt had already been out before the video was made. Somebody gracefully jumped over the always present pinch bolt nightmare...
thasts why i love my old a6 steel on my model no rust never had a problem also i know the correct way a flat head and a hammer 4 hits and clear
@@Paul_VanGo I have to do this job in a day or so - what is the Nightmare....? And how do i avoid it..? Thanks
@@capitaldd5840 the pinch bolt rusts and usually requires heat and swearing to remove. Plenty of people cut it off and hammer it out
I ordered some flush spacers. do you know if with these spacers, there will be a near perfect fitment?
Just did this job - spring compressor is not needed on the front suspension. There is little to no tension on the spring.
Do you guys have a list of the torque specs used on the suspension components?
An awesome drinking game: Take a shot everytime Paul says "in place"
From experience. Your video is making the process harder then it actually is. For the top control arms. You can wedge a flathead in and slightly hammer it to loosen the clamp tension. Spray a little wd40 in to the wedge. Then use a rubber mallet and tap the control arms out. The lower strut bolt would come out easier if you didnt let the entire suspension fully extended and putting friction on the bolt. Use as jack to lift the bottom control arm up little to take the tension of the bolt and will make it easier to pull out.
You are specifically not supposed to do this as it can break the knuckle.
@@Deutscheautoparts Not entirely true, as I spoke with my Audi techs about that job, and they said to specifically use a flathead screwdriver or small punch to widen the pinch just enough to make the upper control arms pop out. That's what I did this weekend and it worked fine. No cracking, no breaks, nice and easy. The only problem was the pinch bolt.
That’s cause Shopdaq doesn’t have much maintenance experience
Instead of breaking your sweat with upper ball joints, you could have just loosen the control arms from the top. Much much easier job. I installed coilovers for my B8 like that. Of course, when tightening them back, one must jack the assembly up, but thats also an easy thing.
It's certainly another option
Are there any disadvantages to doing it the way you suggest..? I'm just about to do this in a couple days..... thanks
Are there any stretch bolts used that may need to be replaced?
Two things..one you can unbolt the upper control arms from the upper strut housing instead of using the pinch bolt side..way easier. And 2 you don't need spring compressors for the fronts. They aren't under any tension..
Different scenarios. ua-cam.com/video/WdgLMslbDuY/v-deo.html
I need to change the front shocks on a B8.5 S4. You are saying I don't need compressors for that?
Thanks dude, your comments are going to help me when I install coilovers on my s4
THIS!! I pissed about for ages with the pinch bolts before giving up and doing it using the too bolts... Loads easier! Wish I'd saw/understood this comment earlier!
Hi!
How do you know wich is the correct position for front springs?
lad that top pinch bolt came right out, this car is either new or you swapped them before the vid, no way in hell they come out that easy!
Just lucky
Do you recommend upgrading the upper control arms?
How about the camber?... I got that way of by lowering it and wear on the inside of the front tires...
roof ski box install next!!!
No. Yuk.
I never worked on an Audi but could you avoid messing with those ball joints by just removing the shock mount from the top? That’s what I did with my old Jetta. I put a jack on the bottom and raised the center shaft up the tower then I put the top mount finger tight
Hi, would you still be able to install lowered springs if you have adaptive dampers? If so would it impact the damper settings?
You can, you'll need different springs than what's shown here.
My car has these and the ride is terrible. The owner before me put them on. The ride bumps up and down. Does this sound more of a bad strut/shock issues?
Used this channel to service my transmission, they cut the seconds where the actual bolt came loose for the brace… i torqued the bolt out into puddy and it snapped off it was the worst day of my life. I had to literally go buy an impact gun to get the other three out. Took 8 hours to drill the bolt out of the subframe
Hi, is hardware kit the same for 2011 Q5 3.2? If not, do you have one ? Whats the p/n please?
Please do a video on a A6 C6 rear springs.. without crazy $1200 Audi tool. lol I mean I got it done using 2-3 spring compressor designs and compressing it on the A-arm.
Nice video and good comments from others. I have a question for my 2011 Q5. The front left coil spring is broke. If I get the OEM part or after-market same coil spring, do I need to also replace the front right coil spring? What other non-audio OEM do you recommend?
Thank you in advance.
Jeff
Jeff Fan if it’s the same spring meaning same ride height and progressiveness/same weight rating then you’ll only need one spring. However, if you’re going aftermarket like H&R for a bit of a drop then you’ll of course want to buy all 4 springs so the car rides properly/doesn’t look weird. Hope this helps!
@@nastyy.8582 Thanks Nathan for the reply. You are right. I brought a pair of Suplex coil springs, same length and width/diameter as the original audi OEM but just 1mm thinner. I only replaced one side and the ride ended up the same as the other side. So far i feel there is no need to replace the potter side. Will see after it settled in a few month. Both audi dealer and the online parts sales said I need to replace both even it's OEM coil. I guess maybe because the new Suplex spring is not as thick as the old audi OEM spring and they are somehow close in strength.
Jeff Fan honestly man if you’ve had the spring in for a few days and the car isn’t sitting crooked you’re fine. Another thing I would’ve checked in the weight the springs are. Certain springs have different ratings which could affect performance but if they’re an OE style spring I think you’re all set man.
Quick question: does anyone know if the Front springs are interchangeable - left and right?! I have the same, or should I say similar - H&R OE Sport springs, and I have noticed from the first install day that left (driver) side sits a bit (around 3-5mm) lower than right side. And now, after about 6 months, it feels even lower. So I was wondering, if I could change their position from left to right, and other way - and being on the heavier end myself, maybe I'll balance out the driver side as time goes by.
Anyone has any idea please?
Very well explained. Subscribed! Out of curiosity, and not including the camera set-up, how much time did it take you to do the front and then back?
Going to talk about on Askdap 122
where is the stance video and what size tires/rims are on the car
If I lower my car would my struts bottom out and damage by struts because the spring is too short
can you just disconnect the top of the upper control arms instead of dealing with the pinch bolt ?
Hi, please tell me how long does it take to install one spring and how much does it cost? thanks
Ever done highering springs?
Where is this shop located? Looking for a good place to lower my 2017 S5 B8.5
May i ask you how long it took you to do all springs? I have bought the eibach pro kit springs do you know how they compare in height and ride, to these ones?
max olivier Lezer how long does it take?
max olivier Lezer took me freaking 8 hrs all by myself with no help and on jack stands on the ground
Did you ever install the Eibach pro kit? How low did it lower your ride?
It is 100% easier to not pop out the control arms and just unbolt them from the top
@5:24 this is lucky, my pinch bolt snapped,needed another one, tried to hammer it didnt work
Audi builds beefy suspensions!
yeah don't buy the super sport springs i have them on my MK6 GTI and they are way to low for the streets.. the handling is amazing but way to low.... and also these steps the same as the mk6 GTI?
This video would have been more interesting if you did a before and after comparison on ridehight,,, just a thougt 🤨
Does this car have the dynamic suspension settings? And does that make a difference
Please need this answered, have a 2010 s5 with dynamic suspension and what not
Could you have removed the two upper control arm nuts/bolts near the strut tower instead of removing the pinch bolt and needing to hammer out the two upper control arm connections there?
Just did that with a friend today. Couldn't get the pinch bolt out on the passenger side so we did what you mentioned, no problems at all.
That what I did and it worked perfectly. You need two 16mm wrenches.
Is this suspension components the same as a A4 b8.5? Fwd?
Jonathan Cortes yes I did it on my A4 before and its the same
Got springs and forgot what a pain it is to do.
Wiggle it, just a little bit!
Where is the coilovers video
20:48 why you cut it?
You know how much you can help a wd40 ?
Liquid wrench or PB blaster are proven 100x more effective penetrants vs wd lubricant...there's a difference
Great video as usual, but wow, this strikes me as incredibly over engineered. I'm sure there's rationale for it being an S4 and all, and I don't claim to be smarter than Audi, but wow... I mean, what a rediculous strut mount. Regardless, keep up the good work!
That's what proper suspension looks like without too many compromises.
leaky cv boot at 18:41?
No, the grime was rubbed off so the boot is shiny again lol
Where are the torque specs?
German specs, bro. "Güedëntïtë" 🤣🤣
I'm soon moving from an E46 M3 into a 2010 B8 S4 and it looks like I'll be leaving any suspension work to a garage. Doesn't look too hard but living in scotland I can guarantee that those pinch bolts and rear spring perches are already a bitch in waiting to cause me a very bad day!
Where r the torque specs???
Not one nm
Guten Tight
Just done this job myself. Takes a bit of time but nothing hard about it. Guess i got lucky with that top pinch bolt though. Threw out the crappy electronic suspension. Just not suited to NZ roads. I have put in Bilstein B8's with O34 springs. The ride is far superior to the original suspension. Its firmer yet smoother at the same time.
buy a McPherson strut compressor dont hurt yourself or screw everything up with cheep spring tools
sad i can not buy parts or tool from you because you sent to europe it is too expensive
Great Video! Always a a lot of great information. I am currently focused on upgrading my S4. Is this the best spring to put on a S4 without going too low? I just put out my first video on my channel. Come check out my 2012 Audi S4 & 2017 VW GTI. Thanks!
a shop with a ton of butchers lol
sad i can not buy parts or tool from you because you dont have parts for polo gti
Watch the whole video and then don’t even fuckin show what it looks like ..... fuck yeah
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Damn. You made this look and be so much harder than it actually is to do. Not sure why though. You could have saved atleast 30 minutes a corner bud.....
How can I save 30 minutes per corner.....?(just about to swap mine)
Thanks
This guy never answers any comments 👎
Eric Jay do you wanna dock?
You do this vid then don’t show a before and after . Dislike
NEVER MORE PUBLIC THIS STUPID AND UNPROFESSIONAL FILM !!!!!
what the fuck you guys call your self a tech and you dont even know the correct way to release the upper control arms from the upper, shame dude shame
A long ass video to see just pictures of it lowered. Gayyy. Unsubscribed