Everyone died the way they have always treated him. Dog being by his side, sister always running away when things get bad, mom rushing to help, grandparents just watching and the dad beating him.
His only hit him twice ever second at the end before he shigi killed him. Shigi just a pussy kid,Spanish kids get their as whooped with Tamarind vines (that’s shit hurt) when you get in trouble. His did wasn’t wasn’t evil shigi delusional making his dad out to be some kind of a super abusive father who always beat him.
his quirk manifested worst possible time! his sister came to apologize, mother finally was gonna stand up and not allow shigi to be abused, dad sorta was on the verge of repenting and changing after his realization of the letter and the wife talking to him.
Plot twist: Decay is not even Tenko’s genetic quirk. The quirk was forced onto Tenko by All For One so that he would kill his own family unintentionally. Tenko was born quirkless. Double plot twist: The quirk Decay originally belonged to Izuku Midoriya but was taken by Doctor Ujiki and given to All For One for him to use. Izuku was then tricked into thinking he was Quirkless.
@@TypicalCynic_ Are you sure this is a plot twist and not a spoiler? Seems like something you read in the manga. I don’t read it so this seems really spoilery and it would make a good plot twist
So Tomura's childhood is a combination of the most tragic backstories of the series. •He grew up admiring heroes despite not having quirk. Except he did not had a loving family to inspire him to go after his dream like Deku. •Like Shoto, he had an abusive father, but no one to help him get trough the abuse. •Like Eri, he had a deadly and unstable quirk that killed his family. But fell in the hands of a villain instaed of a hero. And his father is pretty much what Kota would end up being if Deku did not saved him.
Mon was a good boy. He knew Tenko wasn't hurting him on purpose, knew Tenko was in pain and stood by his side as he crumbled. That dog was more loyal and caring to that poor kid than his whole family. This is so messed up and sad. Not that his mother was bad, but still, she should have stopped the dad before things got out of control.
The craziest part is that if Tenko's quirk manifested even a few hours later, everything probably would've been resolved peacefully. His father was feeling regretful, his sister was apologizing, his mom and grandparents were sticking up for him. Literally just needed just a bit longer.
It manifested earlier when Tenko was playing catch with the dog and barely desintegrated the ball. But because he was feeling so much hate it was activated to that extent.
@@josenaula7316 It seems like it was manifesting well before that, but the stress kicked it into overdrive. What they thought was an allergy was actually his quirk. Sounds like he had it for a while.
The saddest part is that him being happy with finding his grandmother is a hero made his quirk manifest itself more strongly (before it was manifesting as itchiness and dry skin when at home which is what [being in a home that is emotionally abusive] was holding him back from showing any other manifestation of the quirk) and being truly happy for awhile pushed his quirk into an evolution which we saw when he accidentally broke a bit of the ball...than the first time his father hit him made the already manifested quirk spiral out of control 🤷♂️ OFA already knew where this family lives so it’s not beyond him to implant this decaying quirk into a young shiguraki 🤷♂️
@@saolal OFA's possible involvement in this makes this all the more tragic. There is some doubt(from me, at least) as to whether ALL the hands AFO gave Shigaraki are from his family, but if even one pair belongs to them, then that means AFO knew where to get them and that means he knew where Tenko and his family lived. Which means everything Nana did to hide her son so he'd be safe was ultimately pointless.
9:13 Fun Fact: That's how it's visualize Shigaraki's quirk in the manga, while in the anime, when used on people, is always censored by having him basically turned the person into a white stone-like statues, then they either crumble or turn to dust.
I get why you gravitate towards AFO being inolved in Shigaraki's backstory, but I think the entire thing has more weight if he isn't. At the end of the day, regardless of how extraordinary her reasons were, Nana abandoned her child and chose being a hero over being a mother. The idea that these are the consequences of *her* actions makes for a much more nuanced narrative.
Technically, he already has a hand in this. There is actual evidence to suggest that he gave Tenko the quirk (hasn't been confirmed yet), but it's already confirmed that she specifically left to fight AFO after he killed Nana's husband, so she left her son in order to go fight him, and AFO killed her. AFO is indirectly responsible for the way Kotaro turned out.
It´s funny that you mentioned Eri because there´s a fan theory about how Eri and Shigaraki are probably a new kind of human species that is appearing in the mha world. These evolved humans seem to have specific traits like white/gray hair, red eyes and really powerful quirks that can easily end life around them (like Eri and Shigaraki). Eri and Shigaraki´s quirks are actually quite similar as well. They both required contact and destroy living creatures in one way or another and both manifested in a abrupt and violent way through extreme pressure.
@@Castor0033 I think Nine from the heroes rising movie had those traits but I don´t quite remember well. And I´m sure there most be others out there or that they will appear eventually.
@@giboit. nine had yellow eyes. While he did have gray hair, his touch style quirk was given to him by Garaki. Nine’s first quirk was the weather controlling quirk, which also happens to destroy his body. Everything else he used in the movie were quirks he stole. So nine doesn’t fit his theory. But I do support the theory itself and hope it is given more evidence over time!
@@Essendiinanis However, there´s another character that has a red eyes and white hair with an unusual power that requires contact: All for one. And while Nine doesn´t have red eyes (but he does when he uses his original quirk, which is weather manipulation, which is another quirk able to affect the environment around him by the way), he is still a white haired character with temporary red eyes that uses what is basically a knock off version of All for one´s quirk. So maybe he was able to use it BECAUSE he was somewhat compatible to use a quirk that would normally belong to this new kind of human.
Allmight's Master (Nana) Fighting ALL FOR ONE caused her to leave her son, which caused her son to abuse Shigaraki. Then sadly this unintentionally (or it was intentional) gave ALL FOR ONE a perfect successor of evil to torment all might
Making it even worse is the fact that Shigaraki was 5 years old as it all happened. Especially when you consider the kid being thrown/locked outside, the yelling, the more recent physical violence.
His family died the way they treated him. With his sister turning her back on him. With his grandparents idly watching. His mother reaching out to him too lately. And his father striking him.
They actually released an OVA last year or two years ago about All Might, and the day he lost his teacher. Its call All Might Rising. Give a bit of a backstory to the creation of All Might.
16:32, In the Manga, as Shigaraki recalls his past, before Shigaraki is shown to being dragged by his father, a mysterious man was originally the one to bring him home and tell his parents about him playing heroes. Now, this scene was cut from the anime so it has no importance, but many people (including I) speculated that it was All for One.
It's probably for the best that they left that part out since it hasn't been confirmed that it was AFO. The anime could have made a mistake in hinting towards it being AFO because it's entirely possible that Horikoshi intended for it to be a random person. I do believe it was AFO too, but we still will have to wait and find out.
You want to know something crazy? This was cencored a lot in the anime. The anime always kept cencoring thing from the manga because at the hour that the episodes aired in Japan, but let me tell you that if they adapted all the anime like it was in the manga kids could not watch this, it doesn't reach Invincible levels of violence but still it's not meant for kids.
Yeah they definitely upped the violence for this episode (thankfully otherwise I don't think it would've hit nearly as hard), but man the manga is way different in overall tone. Also definitely prepare for it to get way darker in the anime from here this is just the start lol
No they didn't, all manga readers keep saying this but I went and checked it out, and it's literally a copy of the manga, maybe they could have animated them decaying better instead of cutting to a puddle of blood, but other than that, it wasn't censored like everyone's saying.
@@seezar100 I agree. I mean I haven't red the manga so maybe that scene is really more gruesome in it, but I see a lot of readers unnecessarily overhyping mangas. There was a scene in Attack on Titans season 2 where someone's body get teared apart by titans, people kept saying in the comment how in the manga it was even bloodier and more shocking. So I went to check expecting something crazy and it was exactly the same thing. Anime adaptation have a lot of restrictions, they can't always use everything from the original work so of course the manga always has more substance than the anime. But all the "The manga was better" people showing up at every episode start to get annoying.
i disagreed to 3 comment above i feel like i not read the same manga lol in manga this chapter way darker/tone/blood and detail of drawing it more grim and brutal
Shigarki is meant to be a villain parallel to Deku in a lot of ways, so the 'being born quirkless but receiving a power from their mentor' (or to-be-mentor in Shigiraki's case) doesn't seem far fetched to me. I wouldn't be surprised if that were eventually revealed to be the case, and I know that this is a popular theory so I'll be interested to see if we get a definitive answer to that one way or the other.
I realized that AFO is actually meant to be the true villain parallel to Deku. Deku admired heroes and wanted to become the greatest hero. AFO admired villains and wanted to become the greatest villain.
So there's a part of Shigaraki's backstory that is in the manga but was not animated. Before Shigaraki's quirk manifests, a man whose face cant be seen brings Shigaraki home one day. Shortly after that his decay quirk manifests. So since AFO has the ability to give and take quirks, is a master planner, schemer and manipulator, and probably knew all about Nana Shimura's family. Some people are thinking along the same lines of you guys in regards to AFO giving Shigaraki the decay quirk.
Here's the only issue I have with that theory: Immediately after we see Kotaro dragging Tenko away, who already had marks around his eyes like he had been scratching. So if his quirk manifesting was the cause of the itch, then it wouldn't make sense for him to already scratching prior to AFO giving him the quirk.
It's probably for the best that they left that part out since it hasn't been confirmed that it was AFO. The anime could have made a mistake in hinting towards it being AFO because it's entirely possible that Horikoshi intended for it to be a random person.
This is the 2nd puppy puddle you’ve gotten the honor of witnessing. Congrats! This show is deciding to traumatize you as much as FMA now! Enjoy not being able to sleep tonight!
I wouldn't try to give AFO too much credit. He's not the sole source of the world's misery. These quirk accidents happen, just like with Eri erasing her parents with her power. Remember, quirks are mutating with each generation, and there's an in-universe theory that it will eventually reach the point of being beyond control at a point known as the "quirk singularity." I personally find it more interesting if this was a freak accident that AFO merely took advantage of. A good chessmaster doesn't only manipulate the events they cause themselves.
yeah, but that wouldn’t explain how all for one already knew his identity and where to retrieve shigaraki’s dead family members hands and do you really think a 200 year old criminal mastermind was walking around in broad daylight and just happened to stumble upon his nemesis’s grandson under a bridge??
The tragic part was his mother and grandparents are realizing how bad kotaro's behaviour is and Kotaro is now realizing his mistakes, his sister was prepared to apologize, if he's quirk didnt manifested there might been a chance of a normal life for tomura.
@@davidnobre5660 that’s how he felt in hindsight because of his growing resentment. But that might not have been how he felt if his family would’ve improved that day. Sometimes small changes makes you change how you feel in large amounts - especially when you’re a kid.
@@aurghobhattacharjee I don't think so he said he felt an imense amount of pleasure when he killed them, and the itching that was always there stopped... that's a parallel to the blood lust that was always there
@@davidnobre5660 children are very malleable at a young age- main point that the author tried to make is that if only someone had told him that he could be a hero, things could have turned differently - like how they’ve been for deku. This is especially why they’re set up as opposites but also have something in common. Guess this plot point may help Deku understand Shigaraki better. We can agree to disagree, of course. Nature vs nurture has always been a hot topic of debate.
@@aurghobhattacharjee if the author wanted to make that point why show him having such pleasure? if he felt like that so young it would be much worst if he was older imagine that happening in puberty
He does mention that at the time he probably just really wanted to. And he literally says as he's killing him and absurd amount of pleasure ran through me did you watch it
@@TimothyGod ... Jesus dude! Do you not fell pleasure when you get away from your abusers? What person doesn't dream of retaliating against their abuser? He was happy that he could no longer be hurt(in that moment). That doesn't mean he enjoyed killing his dad!! Him killing his dog was an accident. Him killing his dad was an unconscious reaction to being hit in the face with a pipe!
@@cocraine Fantasizing is fine as long as it stops there. The moment you cross Tenko's line and actually do it is when you have serious problems. Now don't get me wrong! I'm not excusing his actions in the slightest, I think he's a dangerous element that should not be out walking the way he is now. But I am saying I understand how this mess happened at all. But understanding someone is not the same as agreeing with them.
You guys can look up: All might rising(it's on youtube)..Kinda short OVA....It shows a little back story of Nana and All might. We all want the All Might movie with him in his prime fighting All for one
You can find Nana's death in the OVA called All Might Rising, which was released in relation to the MHA Two Heroes movie. You can watch it on You Tube, and it's not even 3 minutes long, but it's only been subbed. For this episode, I'm going to mention a manga moment that wasn't included, but was a part of the Tenko Origin chapter... Since you were wondering when AFO could have possibly met Tenko as a kid (and gave him his Quirk? which is a theory I really like), there's something that the anime didn't include from the manga. There's a small scene/moment missing where an unknown man in a suit (face shadowed) dropped Tenko off at home, before Kotaro (his father) was dragging him down the hallway. If this man was AFO or connected to him, this would fit into the idea/theory you mentioned of AFO giving Tenko his Quirk.
If you want to see how Nana died and passed the torch to All Might, you definitely need to watch the OVA "All Might:Rising" !!! It's short, but it is awesome!!
It's interesting how some quirks Manifest at their full power for the first time. Shigarakis Decay spreading to things he didn't touch, Eri rewinding her father out of existence instantly, etc.
They also cut a scene from the manga where a *mysterious gentleman* drives Tenko home from school, and *then* Shiggy's dad starts dragging tenko My theory is that, the gentleman is AFO
As many problems as I have with this season… yeah, this one hit so damn hard. Yes, it’s gnarlier in the manga, but I don’t think the censorship takes away from the moment that much, and the VA is just phenomenal. It’s one of the best villain origins I’ve ever seen, where he is so empathetic but still absolutely needs to be detroit smashed out of existence because he will burn the whole world down to ashes.
I blame this season for being one of the "worst" mainly on the previous two arcs. Even with all the cut content, MVA is still an A or S tier arc in the anime (I think it's still really great overall), and the other two are about B tier. That's just me speaking objectively. Personally, this might be my third favorite season right behind 4 and 2. I loved it. Also, i agree that Tenko has probably the best villain backstory. He has literally every reason to be the villain he is.
Yea. He was abused, killed his family accidentally, no hero saved him and he believes his predicament was caused by his g-ma, a hero. Then all for one gets him and corrupts him even further. I really hope tenko and deku team up to finish him. I would love for him to be saved.
Vengeance is a dish best served cold. An amazing episode, it definitely puts Shigaraki into perspective and makes his motives understandable, and via how his Quirk manifested…yeah, there’s no coming back from that. What makes it all the more lamentable was that things were about to improve but by then all the anger had built up that it couldn’t be stopped.
I know this video is two years old, but it still is so insane to me to know that in the manga, since it had just developed, things didn't turn to dust. They only half showed that, but basically it just opened fissures in things and caused them to crumble. Including living things. So all the meaty chunks and blood left behind were nowhere near enough, because literally their whole bodies just split themselves into hundreds of pieces.
Twice seems to be aware of what happens to his copies, because he knew that fake Dabi was destroyed by Aizawa in the forest during the Forest Training Arc.
I have seen it pointed out that all of Tenko's family died in the way that they existed: 1. Dog just being a dog 2. Sister running away from responsibility 3. Mother trying to comfort him 4. Grandparents just standing at the sideline 5. Father attacking
One thing to take note of is that MHA tends to have a heavy focus on Parallels. Both Shigaraki and Deku were told time and again that they could never be heroes despite it being something they wanted to do. For Deku, he was quirkless while also being bullied by Bakugo. Also nobody stopped Bakugo from being a bully simply because of his powerful quirk that can be used as a hero (which you can even see this happening in S1E2 with Bakugo being praised for his quirk despite rampantly using his quirk and setting a lot of buildings on fire whereas Deku was criticized for being the only one to help him despite having no quirk). For Shigaraki, he was told he couldn't be a hero because his father hated having a hero as a family member which would be earth-shattering for a child to be told he can't be what he wants to be. He saw his family never really helping him with his father and then after all of the events, people would ignore him thinking that a hero would come eventually to help so they didn't have to do anything. Both were victims of the current hero society in a way which also led to them being the protégé of both the best hero and worst villain.
11:50 perfect "danegerous quirk" example would be Bakugo. He literally has the ability to touch you and make you explode just like Shigaraki, but he group up with good supportive strong parents so even though he is violent he is good and a hero, if he explodes anyone it is well held back as to not kill them
Shigaraki's story is so sad. He wanted his family to tell him that he could do it. That he could be a hero. Just like Deku wanted his mom to tell him. But they never did, they just accepted what his dad said and did. Just told him to endure the pain and suffering. Until it all burst out.
Anyone else notice the difference in his parents? His mother doesn't know what's happening but she sees her child suffering. She races towards him to confort him. His father however, his first reaction is to attack and push his child away
I think the most similiar to Shigarakis quirk, would be 13's. 13 has the Quirk "Black Hole" which turns anything into dust. But 13 is a rescue specialist hero. So there would be place for Shigi, but...things turned out bad. There is a short special showing Nana fighting AFO. The special episode is called "All Might Rising"
There’s actually a short OVA that depicts Nana’s death if you want to know a bit more. It’s called “All Might Rising” and it was made to tie into the first movie. It’s the most info we ever receive about the event.
im also done with this VS stuff whenever i see one reacting in dub, im also a sub only watcher but im doing it not because its japanese but because i like to watch it in the original, the same way i watch german show like dark, spanish show like la casa de papel, or any english show i watch. So i mainly watch anime in japanese because its a japanese show and not because one is better than the other.
@@monspeet4287 To me it's quite weird, some of the Dub just reminds me of TFS abridged which is known for comedy and for me it really loses any other sources of 'vibe?' to it for me, if it's a good dub I'm really glad because I like having it retained the vibe and the phrases but it's really hard to get both because of lip flaps and whether they're recording in a good place rarely it's due to the VA I think. Those are my thoughts to dubs in general, I just hope to get the best version, but usually there's very little problems in when watching in subbed so I watch that instead.
@@tehcookievanilla1323 I can agree, this episode and last week's episode are the only two of my hero dubbed that I wouldn't mind watching. I can switch between dubbed and subbed for other shows. Can like dubbed shows like dragon ball, Naruto and like early stages of black clover, but I mostly watch everything in subbed and I don't mind if people choose dubbed for other stuff, so I don't agree with the vs war crap. However you brought it up very well the my hero dubbed I couldn't stand at all besides those two episodes because they sound like abridged versions rather than official dubbed voicing. I mean I don't feel Naruto voice acting levels like when I was moved to tears with Naruto in dubbed was trying to explain to his dad "whether I'm supposed to be happy or sad, I don't even know"
@@tranquilk5912 I think for me the ending when Naruto and Minato meet in the 4th shinobi war for the last time is the best example or Itachi and Sasuke meeting for the last time those are simply great, personally for me in shippuden I really like the voices besides maybe Shino and maybe Tsunade but in the original Naruto I don't think I could stand some of it mainly for Naruto's voice because it just didn't sound like him at all, the voice actor when I was younger sounded like he/she smoked 12 packs of cigarettes a day, that might've just been because I was younger though because in reactions videos he sounds fine now. But yeah, for my Hero there's been improvements but it sounds sooo... immersion breaking to me, especially Deku at times although the VA's improved especially where it was recorded, the feel is quite different compared to Daiki Yamashita who I love hearing the voice of the most!
redestro attack from above actually cut off 3 of shigaraki finger sadly anime censor it. also anime adapt the part where redestro stress ball attack wrong , shigaraki touch the stress ball burden (purple colored attack) and destroy the stress attack while get throwned not touching redestro finger actually like in the anime
I wasn't upset exactly, but I was honestly a little worried they nerfed him in the anime by not making him capable of decaying the ball. Thankfully, next episode showed that he can.
If you want to learn more about Nana’s end, I suggest watching the short 3minute OVA “All Might’s Rising”! It is mostly about All Might and what he did leading up to his debut and his grief over Nana, but it does show Nana going up against AFO too. Also, your theory about AFO having a part to play in the death of the Shimura family could still hold some weight! You guys talked about it towards the end, but here’s additional ammo for the theory. In one of the scenes that was cut out from the anime during this episode, a stranger in a suit drops Tenko off back home after he was playing hero outside. Its either the same day as this tragedy or a short few days before it. It’s been a theory for awhile that it could potentially have been AFO himself and that he maybe gave Tenko the quirk, which then awakened at the worst time. It also aligns more w/ Midoriya’s parallels w/ Shigaraki: Both quirkless (presumed in Tenko’s case, because he was 5yo w/o any signs of a quirk, and it was suggested they didn’t think he would manifest one) yet looking up to All Might and wanting to be a hero, families who didn’t believe in their dream of becoming one, and being given a quirk by someone extremely powerful, etc. It turned out to be pretty fortunate for Midoriya, but for Tenko it led to the destruction of his whole life as he knew it.
With Shigaraki's past it happened to me the same as with Nina's scene in Fullmetal, I heard that it was super sad and all that and I made a lot of mental movies for that, and when I watch the episodes for the first time I think "just because of this was all the fuss?" (?
There is a rather popular fan theory that AfO did orchestrate this situation. In the mange (cut content in the anime), Tenko was brought home by a mysterious man that I think claimed to be a police men. The current theory is that AfO gave a quirkless Tenko the decay quirk in the hope that he would accidentally murder his family.
I think it's for the best that they left that part out since it hasn't been confirmed that it was AFO. The anime could have made a mistake in hinting towards it being AFO because it's entirely possible that Horikoshi intended for it to be a random person.
This is the darkest episode in MHA. So let’s get into this character analysis. Trumpet: This guy’s quirk is really sweet for politicians. But…it feels like the most dangerous kind of quirk. Even if it is pure support. It just makes my skin crawl seeing those people get incited to attack the league like that. And then he just plainly puts himself above Spinner. Which drives me nuts. Spinner: This poor guy has an honest Yamcha problem. He wants to be relevant, he wants the attention, he wants to see what world is created for him to better thrive. But no matter where he turns, he just gets knocked around. And if he met Stain, even Stain I’m betting wouldn’t be too keen on his approach either. So it makes his relationship with the league SO much more understandable. He truly has no way forward without the league. Shigaraki accepted him. And now he has a bond with him over video games. Which is so sad to be so desperate for acceptance that you cling onto a sadist’s shared video game interest and let it take you to places you never would’ve gone simply because no one else would take you. It’s only one dedicated scene, but you get some SERIOUS incite into Spinner here. Redestro: Not going to lie, this is easily the most powerful emotion quirk. There’s ones like love, shame, and others. But stress being power. That is just an excellent yet sad quirk. It doesn’t take much to build, it’s hard to get rid of, and when you spiral it just comes in such fast waves. Regardless how happy and optimistic you are. And to be a leader of an army and trying to live to your family’s reputation for over 100,000 people. No wonder this guy is so ridiculously strong. It’s not just the perfect fit, but there’s no way for him NOT to be powerful. Plus it doesn’t just boost his strength, but his size, his speed, and he can conjure it into long range attacks too. And he’s even more immune to Shigaraki’s decay more than ANYONE else he has fought other than Snatch the sand hero. But Dabi and Compress killed him in less than a minute in season 4. And then there he is. Shigaraki aka Tenko Shimura: This man. Having the WORST mutation circumstances ever. Never turning back to any semblance of love his family gave him because they refused to be there for him when he truly needed him. And what was the catalyst? His dad freaking pushed his trauma onto the ENTIRE family. Berated them for mentioning it, locked him out of the house, and although that was only the start of the beating, it never would have improved. The dad had no parental instinct. And with the blind hatred…I won’t deny it. That’s worse than the Todoroki’s. Even the grandparents were on the down low manipulative, telling him to stop crying so they don’t cry while HE is being abused. He was just there. And didn’t get the attention he needed. Even if there were freckles of it. Like his friends letting him be All-Might, his sister being marginally caring at times, his mother caring for him in EVERY WAY BUT the abuse. Had he lived there into his teens, imagine how toxic that environment would get. It would’ve just going further. And poor Nana having no choice but to fight AFO because LITERALLY no other quirk can stand against him. The father was a spiteful asshole willing to tear apart not just his mother’s good memories but EVERYTHING she stood for. What a freak trauma or no. His resolve of going too far was VERY weak. Let’s talk about the newest upgrade in power last. Now it’s merely a 2 finger touch trigger in his fight with Redestro and he’s gaining the bigger decay moves as time goes. I spoke of the Medusa effect from his hands. But now that we saw the puppy puddle, it’s time to say what the anime has been doing. It is not just censoring from us the viewers. But Shigaraki himself. In season 1 his decay tore off flesh like tree bark against Aizawa. That is happening EVERY TIME. Just the larger amplifications get so bloody and disgusting he has to keep blotting it out. And that’s made clear by the family slaughter. It shows the Medusa effect, but then you see the puddle of blood and people pieces. And he blows people away like the wind. There isn’t a single person on earth I can think of that their brain wouldn’t try EVERYTHING it could to blot out such a horror in real life. Even a sadist like Shigaraki. His brain is nearly fully developed if not already fully. And his brain is STILL screaming this is too much. When he used the high amplification on that group of dozens of people in the Toga episode, he immediately vomited. And knowing he remembers now means he can take it even further. Also to make it clear for Endeavor vs the Shimura father. Endeavor was the cause of everything with his emotional habits. Shoto’s mother and siblings had no factor in adding to the toxic environment as his mom actually addressed the abuse many times and protected Shoto. And STILL was emotionally available to what he was most vulnerable to. Being a hero does not make you your father. She was driven mad yes. But it was all Endeavor never letting himself be vulnerable. Covering fear and sadness with anger. And once his emotions were dragged out from under him, was when he knew he needed to atone. And he never blamed his family for the environment. And at the VERY least, Shoto did get assets like great battle instinct and he still made his own personal choice to become a hero anyway. The father of Tenko didn’t just make a toxic environment, but he blamed it all on others up until that single hesitation which vanished INSTANTLY. Pushing his past onto everyone and punishing those that considered doing what he disliked. And it kept escalating. It was never going to get better. And no one defending him when he needed defense was just WAY worse. And his explosion wasn’t about playing hero, but SEEING A PICTURE. And it IMMEDIATELY turned into beating him. There was no rhyme or reason even to those that knew the trauma he endured. Saying she made me suffer and you knowing of her existence equates to you suffering is just not something that can ever even be GLEAMED for positive attributes.
Trumpet quirk just enhances them thats it. Those other people are liberation warriors so they were ready to attack he just made them stronger. And some things you wrote for the other characters makes no sense
@@terencesdurag2823 his quirk is called incite. Yeah I know it’s all support, but he spurs them to action. Even if it’s not a literal command it may as well be. Also where did I mess up? Maybe speed isn’t a quirk factor for stress. But his reactions are so good it feels like it is. I don’t see where else I missed anything.
Quirk discrimination has come up multiple times in this show, but every time there have been other characters reassuring the user that they define their quirk by how they use it. Example: Shinsou and Deku. Shiggy got the opposite. AFO told him his personality is defined by his quirk, essentially saying he has no hope to change or be good and the only one who will ever except him is AFO. It’s no wonder he turned out the way he did. Several other characters in this show could have ended up villains if they hadn’t happened upon the right people. Shigaraki just got unlucky-no one was there to set him on the right path like everyone else, and instead he got the direct opposite. Sheer shit luck. Excuse me while I cry Edit: Also I can’t quite place why but Shigaraki’s line, “Isn’t that bizarre?” line from before greatly disturbed me. I don’t get freaked out by dark backstories easily, I tend to love them. But that single line made me literally pause the show and just stare at the screen. I think maybe it has to do with how tragic it is that he KNOWS he’s messed up, and is outwardly confused by it. A lot of the time these sorts of characters (and even people in real life) don’t recognize that they have an issue/don’t realize their train of thought is nonsensical. But Shigaraki KNOWS. He understands it’s incomprehensible that something that messed up could possibly be calming. And he VERBALLY acknowledges it in front of his allies and basically friends. Somehow that adds a whole new layer of shocking and disturbing to me. He knows he’s messed up. He knows his thought patterns are flawed and he’s baffled by it. But he’s so far gone at this point it’s too late to turn back even if he could will himself into wanting to. Freaking hell man.
This really emphasizes that Shigaraki is kind of a twisted Deku. Like both of them were growing up just wanting to hear someone tell them that they could be a hero. But noone ever did. Everyone just apologized and said it wasn't really their fault but noone ever just said what they needed to hear. And then when they were at the bottom, someone came to them and told them not to worry "because I am here". All Might appeared and told Deku he could be a hero. All for One appeared and told Shigaraki that he couldn't, but he could become a villain instead. And then both were trained to become their masters successor.
Other kids with dangerous quirks? Yeah uh... BAKUGO?! Kid literally has explosive sweat. Imagine him running around the house, working up a sweat then BAM! Bye bye dad's arm.
Twice’s clones have a mind of their own, BUT they inherit all memories until the last time they talked to twice. If twice talked to Dabi on Monday and he cloned him on Friday WITHOUT seeing Dabi tue-Thursday, then clone dabi would think it’s Monday
Definetly one of the best episodes yet. The next one is pretty good too. Can't wait to see how they handle next season. I do want to make sure you got my request to check out Wolf's Rain once this season of MHA is over. Got to look it up and see if it interest ya.
I'm not too worried about next season. I can agree that this season could have been handled better, but I place most of the blame for it being one of the "worst" seasons on the first two arcs. Even with the cut content, MVA is still a great arc (I'd say A or S tier) in the anime overall, and the other two weren't even that great in the manga compared to MVA. However, that's mostly me just speaking objectively. Personally, this is probably my third favorite season right behind 4 and 2.
Even though I knew it was coming it was still said to see. Maybe its just been a while but I don't remember the blood in the manga. I am very suspect of the whole event, especially with how quickly All For One approached Shigaraki after he fell to the streets. Ever since reading this chapter in the manga I have suspected All For One was behind it. If anyone could orchestrate that disaster it would be him. Part of this has to do with the fact he was already five when his quirk manifested. Yes, he would need contact with him, but he could of done that before hand. For all I know he has a quirk that could of caused him to black out or erase his short term memory so he wouldn't remember it. Then he could of put the house under surveillance and just waited. The quirk wasn't fully developed right away. What they mistook for an allergy was his quirk manifesting. Shigaraki isn't immune to his own quirk, it just doesn't effect him to the same extrema. The stress his father put him under certainly exhilarated things, but knowing his father it likely would of still ended badly even if his quirk slowly got stronger. All For One has studied quirks for a very long time and it wouldn't be hard to figure out how that quirk would develop if he found it in another. That said its still possible his quirk developed naturally and All For One had nothing to do with it, but he is still sus.
It's these few villain episodes that make me worry if I'm gonna be able to handle watching the rest of My Hero Academia. Especially this episode in particular. I'm not good with super dark stuff like this, and I almost didn't even finish season 5 after barely getting through this episode, 'cause I was afraid it would just get worse. :"D
anyone born with that kind of quirk is more likely than not gonna get a dark dark childhood, most wouldn't have been as unlucky, just think of the odds of all these things happening in a row, quirk manifesting at that time, after getting beaten before sister and mom apologise / help, the event itself was such sadness, noone helping on the street for however many hours straight, running into the worlds greatest villain. like he couldnt have done anything different, and if even ONE person had then this wouldn't have happened
The saddest part is that him being happy with finding his grandmother is a hero made his quirk manifest itself more strongly (before it was manifesting as itchiness and dry skin when at home which is what [being in a home that is emotionally abusive] was holding him back from showing any other manifestation of the quirk) and being truly happy for awhile pushed his quirk into an evolution which we saw when he accidentally broke a bit of the ball...than the first time his father hit him made the already manifested quirk spiral out of control 🤷♂️ OFA already knew where this family lives so it’s not beyond him to implant this decaying quirk into a young shiguraki 🤷♂️
Random thought. Think all for one killed nana and after all might beat him found nanas descendant and all that. But what if he used a forceful activation quirk on him instead of giving him the quirk.
In Naruto, he was able to receive the memories of his Shadow Clones after they vanished, so i assume Twice could potentially share that in common with his copies.
I have a theory that maybe OFA gave Shigaraki the quirk without him knowing. Like on his way to school or something he brushed up against him and gave hime the power knowing this would happen. It seems way to coincidental that AFO just randomly runs into Nana's grandson after this happened.
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Watch this very very short OVA about nana and allmight... your going to love it
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he only needed 1 person to say he can also be a hero
he only needed 1 person to say he can also be a hero
Everyone died the way they have always treated him. Dog being by his side, sister always running away when things get bad, mom rushing to help, grandparents just watching and the dad beating him.
Oh my god the accuracy
I didnt even noticed this
Wow that’s scarily accurate
Fuuuuuuck...
His only hit him twice ever second at the end before he shigi killed him. Shigi just a pussy kid,Spanish kids get their as whooped with Tamarind vines (that’s shit hurt) when you get in trouble. His did wasn’t wasn’t evil shigi delusional making his dad out to be some kind of a super abusive father who always beat him.
his quirk manifested worst possible time! his sister came to apologize, mother finally was gonna stand up and not allow shigi to be abused, dad sorta was on the verge of repenting and changing after his realization of the letter and the wife talking to him.
DANG!
Fuck that sucks
Plot twist: Decay is not even Tenko’s genetic quirk. The quirk was forced onto Tenko by All For One so that he would kill his own family unintentionally. Tenko was born quirkless.
Double plot twist: The quirk Decay originally belonged to Izuku Midoriya but was taken by Doctor Ujiki and given to All For One for him to use. Izuku was then tricked into thinking he was Quirkless.
@@TypicalCynic_ Are you sure this is a plot twist and not a spoiler? Seems like something you read in the manga. I don’t read it so this seems really spoilery and it would make a good plot twist
@@KryptonKr Shhh 😉
"By the way i forgot to mention that this is the story of how i became the world greatest villain".
Shiggy
Nice
He didn't say that at any point, right?
@@scottvgamer1163 he should've
Tenko Shimura: Top 10 characters who deserved better.
He's just all 10, that's why his name is Ten-ko
He'll acomplish a lot, just you wait
But he needed to be end, cause with his state, there's no backing off
@Crus Harold nah bro , his dad does I’m so glad Tomura killed his ass.
Touya, toga, tenko, nagant, deku, twice, compress, kurogiri, etc
If you think about it, Kota might have turned out like Shigaraki’s dad if Deku wouldn’t have saved him back then
I mean, on a similar path but I doubt he could cause as much damage with Water Gun
@@joaoparente1717 I think he means that Kota could’ve kept his hero hating mindset, same as Kotaro, and eventually took it out on his offspring aswell
@@joaoparente1717 he is talking about if kota had a kid and treated him the way that tomuras dad did and created another villain like tomura
kota wouldve been a punching bag if deku didnt save him 😂
@@dianaricaidan4411 Thats true, he would kinda be dead probably.
So Tomura's childhood is a combination of the most tragic backstories of the series.
•He grew up admiring heroes despite not having quirk. Except he did not had a loving family to inspire him to go after his dream like Deku.
•Like Shoto, he had an abusive father, but no one to help him get trough the abuse.
•Like Eri, he had a deadly and unstable quirk that killed his family. But fell in the hands of a villain instaed of a hero.
And his father is pretty much what Kota would end up being if Deku did not saved him.
Best villain backstory. He has every reason to be the villain he is.
Manga readers have been waiting for so long, just to share the "Corgi trauma" with the rest of the world.
Mon was a good boy. He knew Tenko wasn't hurting him on purpose, knew Tenko was in pain and stood by his side as he crumbled. That dog was more loyal and caring to that poor kid than his whole family. This is so messed up and sad.
Not that his mother was bad, but still, she should have stopped the dad before things got out of control.
The craziest part is that if Tenko's quirk manifested even a few hours later, everything probably would've been resolved peacefully. His father was feeling regretful, his sister was apologizing, his mom and grandparents were sticking up for him. Literally just needed just a bit longer.
It manifested earlier when Tenko was playing catch with the dog and barely desintegrated the ball. But because he was feeling so much hate it was activated to that extent.
@@josenaula7316 It wasn't that long apart still
@@josenaula7316 It seems like it was manifesting well before that, but the stress kicked it into overdrive. What they thought was an allergy was actually his quirk. Sounds like he had it for a while.
The saddest part is that him being happy with finding his grandmother is a hero made his quirk manifest itself more strongly (before it was manifesting as itchiness and dry skin when at home which is what [being in a home that is emotionally abusive] was holding him back from showing any other manifestation of the quirk) and being truly happy for awhile pushed his quirk into an evolution which we saw when he accidentally broke a bit of the ball...than the first time his father hit him made the already manifested quirk spiral out of control 🤷♂️
OFA already knew where this family lives so it’s not beyond him to implant this decaying quirk into a young shiguraki 🤷♂️
@@saolal OFA's possible involvement in this makes this all the more tragic. There is some doubt(from me, at least) as to whether ALL the hands AFO gave Shigaraki are from his family, but if even one pair belongs to them, then that means AFO knew where to get them and that means he knew where Tenko and his family lived. Which means everything Nana did to hide her son so he'd be safe was ultimately pointless.
The moment his mother died rushing to hug him. Now that's really feels bad man....This is My Horror Academia backstory.
9:13 Fun Fact: That's how it's visualize Shigaraki's quirk in the manga, while in the anime, when used on people, is always censored by having him basically turned the person into a white stone-like statues, then they either crumble or turn to dust.
I get why you gravitate towards AFO being inolved in Shigaraki's backstory, but I think the entire thing has more weight if he isn't. At the end of the day, regardless of how extraordinary her reasons were, Nana abandoned her child and chose being a hero over being a mother. The idea that these are the consequences of *her* actions makes for a much more nuanced narrative.
Yeah, I completely agree with you.
Technically, he already has a hand in this. There is actual evidence to suggest that he gave Tenko the quirk (hasn't been confirmed yet), but it's already confirmed that she specifically left to fight AFO after he killed Nana's husband, so she left her son in order to go fight him, and AFO killed her. AFO is indirectly responsible for the way Kotaro turned out.
@@scottvgamer1163 right but he's saying he would prefer if not like did you read it at all
@@TimothyGod I understood what they said, but I'm saying that AFO really WAS (partially) responsible for all this to some extent.
Imagine a kid accidentally killing his parents, he got thrown into a world of pain so fast.
Lost and confused. Then someone like All For One was the one who found him and put him on a twisted path.
It´s funny that you mentioned Eri because there´s a fan theory about how Eri and Shigaraki are probably a new kind of human species that is appearing in the mha world. These evolved humans seem to have specific traits like white/gray hair, red eyes and really powerful quirks that can easily end life around them (like Eri and Shigaraki). Eri and Shigaraki´s quirks are actually quite similar as well. They both required contact and destroy living creatures in one way or another and both manifested in a abrupt and violent way through extreme pressure.
That’s a pretty cool theory.
Speaking of eri, she was just shown today in sub
@@Castor0033
I think Nine from the heroes rising movie had those traits but I don´t quite remember well. And I´m sure there most be others out there or that they will appear eventually.
@@giboit. nine had yellow eyes. While he did have gray hair, his touch style quirk was given to him by Garaki. Nine’s first quirk was the weather controlling quirk, which also happens to destroy his body. Everything else he used in the movie were quirks he stole.
So nine doesn’t fit his theory. But I do support the theory itself and hope it is given more evidence over time!
@@Essendiinanis
However, there´s another character that has a red eyes and white hair with an unusual power that requires contact: All for one.
And while Nine doesn´t have red eyes (but he does when he uses his original quirk, which is weather manipulation, which is another quirk able to affect the environment around him by the way), he is still a white haired character with temporary red eyes that uses what is basically a knock off version of All for one´s quirk. So maybe he was able to use it BECAUSE he was somewhat compatible to use a quirk that would normally belong to this new kind of human.
Allmight's Master (Nana) Fighting ALL FOR ONE caused her to leave her son, which caused her son to abuse Shigaraki.
Then sadly this unintentionally (or it was intentional) gave ALL FOR ONE a perfect successor of evil to torment all might
one of the best and saddest backstorys
Making it even worse is the fact that Shigaraki was 5 years old as it all happened.
Especially when you consider the kid being thrown/locked outside, the yelling, the more recent physical violence.
His family died the way they treated him.
With his sister turning her back on him.
With his grandparents idly watching.
His mother reaching out to him too lately.
And his father striking him.
and his dog being there for him.
They actually released an OVA last year or two years ago about All Might, and the day he lost his teacher. Its call All Might Rising. Give a bit of a backstory to the creation of All Might.
16:32,
In the Manga, as Shigaraki recalls his past, before Shigaraki is shown to being dragged by his father, a mysterious man was originally the one to bring him home and tell his parents about him playing heroes. Now, this scene was cut from the anime so it has no importance, but many people (including I) speculated that it was All for One.
My only problem with this theory is wouldn’t Shigaraki recognize All for One as the one who dropped him off that day?
@@darencolby1916 well he repressed his memories so much that it might be that he simply forgot that detail
It was definitely All For One
It's probably for the best that they left that part out since it hasn't been confirmed that it was AFO. The anime could have made a mistake in hinting towards it being AFO because it's entirely possible that Horikoshi intended for it to be a random person.
I do believe it was AFO too, but we still will have to wait and find out.
@@jackripper6819 Yeah but then he remembered everything. Idk doesn't seem to fit
As sad as the dead corgi was, seeing him accidentally kill his sister makes me shudder every time.
The sight of Shigaraki's mom running to embrace him, completely ignoring her own body crumbling to dust, hits *so* hard
Even without the panels with the mom I would have cried anyways but the fact his mom STILL reached out to her son… that was just DEVASTATING 😭
You want to know something crazy? This was cencored a lot in the anime. The anime always kept cencoring thing from the manga because at the hour that the episodes aired in Japan, but let me tell you that if they adapted all the anime like it was in the manga kids could not watch this, it doesn't reach Invincible levels of violence but still it's not meant for kids.
Yeah they definitely upped the violence for this episode (thankfully otherwise I don't think it would've hit nearly as hard), but man the manga is way different in overall tone. Also definitely prepare for it to get way darker in the anime from here this is just the start lol
No they didn't, all manga readers keep saying this but I went and checked it out, and it's literally a copy of the manga, maybe they could have animated them decaying better instead of cutting to a puddle of blood, but other than that, it wasn't censored like everyone's saying.
@@seezar100 Yes, it's really annoying how everyone says the manga is so much "bloodier" even though it's really not
@@seezar100 I agree. I mean I haven't red the manga so maybe that scene is really more gruesome in it, but I see a lot of readers unnecessarily overhyping mangas. There was a scene in Attack on Titans season 2 where someone's body get teared apart by titans, people kept saying in the comment how in the manga it was even bloodier and more shocking. So I went to check expecting something crazy and it was exactly the same thing. Anime adaptation have a lot of restrictions, they can't always use everything from the original work so of course the manga always has more substance than the anime. But all the "The manga was better" people showing up at every episode start to get annoying.
i disagreed to 3 comment above i feel like i not read the same manga lol
in manga this chapter way darker/tone/blood and detail of drawing it more grim and brutal
Shigarki is meant to be a villain parallel to Deku in a lot of ways, so the 'being born quirkless but receiving a power from their mentor' (or to-be-mentor in Shigiraki's case) doesn't seem far fetched to me. I wouldn't be surprised if that were eventually revealed to be the case, and I know that this is a popular theory so I'll be interested to see if we get a definitive answer to that one way or the other.
I realized that AFO is actually meant to be the true villain parallel to Deku. Deku admired heroes and wanted to become the greatest hero. AFO admired villains and wanted to become the greatest villain.
@@scottvgamer1163 yeah all for one seems to be more pushing it on to shigaraki
shoutout for covering the dub. That "DIE" gives me chills every time
So there's a part of Shigaraki's backstory that is in the manga but was not animated. Before Shigaraki's quirk manifests, a man whose face cant be seen brings Shigaraki home one day. Shortly after that his decay quirk manifests. So since AFO has the ability to give and take quirks, is a master planner, schemer and manipulator, and probably knew all about Nana Shimura's family. Some people are thinking along the same lines of you guys in regards to AFO giving Shigaraki the decay quirk.
Here's the only issue I have with that theory: Immediately after we see Kotaro dragging Tenko away, who already had marks around his eyes like he had been scratching. So if his quirk manifesting was the cause of the itch, then it wouldn't make sense for him to already scratching prior to AFO giving him the quirk.
It's probably for the best that they left that part out since it hasn't been confirmed that it was AFO. The anime could have made a mistake in hinting towards it being AFO because it's entirely possible that Horikoshi intended for it to be a random person.
This is the 2nd puppy puddle you’ve gotten the honor of witnessing. Congrats! This show is deciding to traumatize you as much as FMA now! Enjoy not being able to sleep tonight!
"Puppy puddle" how do you delete someone else's comment?
@@Triattt do you prefer people parts?
@@Kaempfdog depends on the recipe.
@@Triattt that was a better comeback than I could have come up with in a year. Kudos.
twices clones don't seem to be linked to him. they are self acting copies.
i just came back from crying after the episode, now i’m here to watch y’all 😭can’t wait for the next two
I wouldn't try to give AFO too much credit. He's not the sole source of the world's misery. These quirk accidents happen, just like with Eri erasing her parents with her power.
Remember, quirks are mutating with each generation, and there's an in-universe theory that it will eventually reach the point of being beyond control at a point known as the "quirk singularity."
I personally find it more interesting if this was a freak accident that AFO merely took advantage of. A good chessmaster doesn't only manipulate the events they cause themselves.
Actually Eri only erased her father which caused her mother to abandon her
Didn't they mention they're already way past the singularity point? They mentioned it when they do got the same
yeah, but that wouldn’t explain how all for one already knew his identity and where to retrieve shigaraki’s dead family members hands and do you really think a 200 year old criminal mastermind was walking around in broad daylight and just happened to stumble upon his nemesis’s grandson under a bridge??
The tragic part was his mother and grandparents are realizing how bad kotaro's behaviour is and Kotaro is now realizing his mistakes, his sister was prepared to apologize, if he's quirk didnt manifested there might been a chance of a normal life for tomura.
bruh he liked that he killed everyone
he likes blood
@@davidnobre5660 that’s how he felt in hindsight because of his growing resentment. But that might not have been how he felt if his family would’ve improved that day. Sometimes small changes makes you change how you feel in large amounts - especially when you’re a kid.
@@aurghobhattacharjee I don't think so he said he felt an imense amount of pleasure when he killed them, and the itching that was always there stopped...
that's a parallel to the blood lust that was always there
@@davidnobre5660 children are very malleable at a young age- main point that the author tried to make is that if only someone had told him that he could be a hero, things could have turned differently - like how they’ve been for deku. This is especially why they’re set up as opposites but also have something in common. Guess this plot point may help Deku understand Shigaraki better. We can agree to disagree, of course. Nature vs nurture has always been a hot topic of debate.
@@aurghobhattacharjee if the author wanted to make that point why show him having such pleasure?
if he felt like that so young it would be much worst if he was older
imagine that happening in puberty
that is probably one of the darkest episodes of anything, ever. up there with Alchemist's Anguish easily in terms of how screwed up it is.
Was it fmab ep4?
@@marcodulangon2551 yup.
I want to make a Nina reference (you know the one), but I'll refrain.
Tenko didn't enjoy killing his father per say but rather was excited that he could never be hurt by his dad again.
He does mention that at the time he probably just really wanted to. And he literally says as he's killing him and absurd amount of pleasure ran through me did you watch it
@@TimothyGod ... Jesus dude! Do you not fell pleasure when you get away from your abusers? What person doesn't dream of retaliating against their abuser? He was happy that he could no longer be hurt(in that moment). That doesn't mean he enjoyed killing his dad!! Him killing his dog was an accident. Him killing his dad was an unconscious reaction to being hit in the face with a pipe!
@@robinmartin2818 right, as a person who grew up w an abusive dad i cant count how many times I’ve fantasized about killing / getting away from him.
@@cocraine Fantasizing is fine as long as it stops there. The moment you cross Tenko's line and actually do it is when you have serious problems. Now don't get me wrong! I'm not excusing his actions in the slightest, I think he's a dangerous element that should not be out walking the way he is now. But I am saying I understand how this mess happened at all. But understanding someone is not the same as agreeing with them.
You guys can look up: All might rising(it's on youtube)..Kinda short OVA....It shows a little back story of Nana and All might. We all want the All Might movie with him in his prime fighting All for one
The song from that tragic part was perfect
Funny enough they even kinda censored it in the anime compared to the manga. In the manga they don't turn to stone before falling apart.
Fun Fact: This is only about 40% of the gore, most of it was censored
You can find Nana's death in the OVA called All Might Rising, which was released in relation to the MHA Two Heroes movie. You can watch it on You Tube, and it's not even 3 minutes long, but it's only been subbed.
For this episode, I'm going to mention a manga moment that wasn't included, but was a part of the Tenko Origin chapter...
Since you were wondering when AFO could have possibly met Tenko as a kid (and gave him his Quirk? which is a theory I really like), there's something that the anime didn't include from the manga. There's a small scene/moment missing where an unknown man in a suit (face shadowed) dropped Tenko off at home, before Kotaro (his father) was dragging him down the hallway. If this man was AFO or connected to him, this would fit into the idea/theory you mentioned of AFO giving Tenko his Quirk.
If you want to see how Nana died and passed the torch to All Might, you definitely need to watch the OVA "All Might:Rising" !!! It's short, but it is awesome!!
Yes, I'm sure someone said it here but there's an ova showing all might and Gran Torino talking to Nana minutes before getting killed my all for one
It's interesting how some quirks Manifest at their full power for the first time. Shigarakis Decay spreading to things he didn't touch, Eri rewinding her father out of existence instantly, etc.
They also cut a scene from the manga where a *mysterious gentleman* drives Tenko home from school, and *then* Shiggy's dad starts dragging tenko
My theory is that, the gentleman is AFO
If you want to see a bit of how Nana died you should check out the all might rising ova
As many problems as I have with this season… yeah, this one hit so damn hard. Yes, it’s gnarlier in the manga, but I don’t think the censorship takes away from the moment that much, and the VA is just phenomenal. It’s one of the best villain origins I’ve ever seen, where he is so empathetic but still absolutely needs to be detroit smashed out of existence because he will burn the whole world down to ashes.
I blame this season for being one of the "worst" mainly on the previous two arcs. Even with all the cut content, MVA is still an A or S tier arc in the anime (I think it's still really great overall), and the other two are about B tier. That's just me speaking objectively. Personally, this might be my third favorite season right behind 4 and 2. I loved it.
Also, i agree that Tenko has probably the best villain backstory. He has literally every reason to be the villain he is.
Yea. He was abused, killed his family accidentally, no hero saved him and he believes his predicament was caused by his g-ma, a hero. Then all for one gets him and corrupts him even further. I really hope tenko and deku team up to finish him. I would love for him to be saved.
Vengeance is a dish best served cold. An amazing episode, it definitely puts Shigaraki into perspective and makes his motives understandable, and via how his Quirk manifested…yeah, there’s no coming back from that. What makes it all the more lamentable was that things were about to improve but by then all the anger had built up that it couldn’t be stopped.
"and just like that, I didn't itch anymore" gave me chills so hard
That's two episodes that I can say I'm quite happy with how the dubbed handle it for this week and last week so that's very good
They rejects the word "hero", thus gave room for the word "villain" to came in.
I know this video is two years old, but it still is so insane to me to know that in the manga, since it had just developed, things didn't turn to dust. They only half showed that, but basically it just opened fissures in things and caused them to crumble. Including living things. So all the meaty chunks and blood left behind were nowhere near enough, because literally their whole bodies just split themselves into hundreds of pieces.
Twice seems to be aware of what happens to his copies, because he knew that fake Dabi was destroyed by Aizawa in the forest during the Forest Training Arc.
I have seen it pointed out that all of Tenko's family died in the way that they existed:
1. Dog just being a dog
2. Sister running away from responsibility
3. Mother trying to comfort him
4. Grandparents just standing at the sideline
5. Father attacking
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IT IS SO GOOD!!!
Are we watching My Hero Academia rn? Cuz how did we go from "You too can be a Hero" to this dark episode!
One thing to take note of is that MHA tends to have a heavy focus on Parallels. Both Shigaraki and Deku were told time and again that they could never be heroes despite it being something they wanted to do. For Deku, he was quirkless while also being bullied by Bakugo. Also nobody stopped Bakugo from being a bully simply because of his powerful quirk that can be used as a hero (which you can even see this happening in S1E2 with Bakugo being praised for his quirk despite rampantly using his quirk and setting a lot of buildings on fire whereas Deku was criticized for being the only one to help him despite having no quirk). For Shigaraki, he was told he couldn't be a hero because his father hated having a hero as a family member which would be earth-shattering for a child to be told he can't be what he wants to be. He saw his family never really helping him with his father and then after all of the events, people would ignore him thinking that a hero would come eventually to help so they didn't have to do anything. Both were victims of the current hero society in a way which also led to them being the protégé of both the best hero and worst villain.
I mean I'm pretty sure basically the whole class and teacher was making fun of Deku, I don't think it was just because Bakugo was powerful.
This is why you don't abuse people, especially kids.
11:50 perfect "danegerous quirk" example would be Bakugo. He literally has the ability to touch you and make you explode just like Shigaraki, but he group up with good supportive strong parents so even though he is violent he is good and a hero, if he explodes anyone it is well held back as to not kill them
Shigaraki's story is so sad. He wanted his family to tell him that he could do it. That he could be a hero. Just like Deku wanted his mom to tell him. But they never did, they just accepted what his dad said and did. Just told him to endure the pain and suffering. Until it all burst out.
Anyone else notice the difference in his parents? His mother doesn't know what's happening but she sees her child suffering. She races towards him to confort him. His father however, his first reaction is to attack and push his child away
I think the most similiar to Shigarakis quirk, would be 13's. 13 has the Quirk "Black Hole" which turns anything into dust. But 13 is a rescue specialist hero. So there would be place for Shigi, but...things turned out bad.
There is a short special showing Nana fighting AFO. The special episode is called "All Might Rising"
There’s actually a short OVA that depicts Nana’s death if you want to know a bit more. It’s called “All Might Rising” and it was made to tie into the first movie. It’s the most info we ever receive about the event.
Loved this episode and video ♡
As a manga reader, that was so satisfying to see yall react to finally
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I know people hate when others compare Subs and Dubs, but I liked the sub a lot more, but it was still well done here.
im also done with this VS stuff whenever i see one reacting in dub, im also a sub only watcher but im doing it not because its japanese but because i like to watch it in the original, the same way i watch german show like dark, spanish show like la casa de papel, or any english show i watch. So i mainly watch anime in japanese because its a japanese show and not because one is better than the other.
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To me it's quite weird, some of the Dub just reminds me of TFS abridged which is known for comedy and for me it really loses any other sources of 'vibe?' to it for me, if it's a good dub I'm really glad because I like having it retained the vibe and the phrases but it's really hard to get both because of lip flaps and whether they're recording in a good place rarely it's due to the VA I think. Those are my thoughts to dubs in general, I just hope to get the best version, but usually there's very little problems in when watching in subbed so I watch that instead.
@@tehcookievanilla1323 I can agree, this episode and last week's episode are the only two of my hero dubbed that I wouldn't mind watching. I can switch between dubbed and subbed for other shows. Can like dubbed shows like dragon ball, Naruto and like early stages of black clover, but I mostly watch everything in subbed and I don't mind if people choose dubbed for other stuff, so I don't agree with the vs war crap. However you brought it up very well the my hero dubbed I couldn't stand at all besides those two episodes because they sound like abridged versions rather than official dubbed voicing. I mean I don't feel Naruto voice acting levels like when I was moved to tears with Naruto in dubbed was trying to explain to his dad "whether I'm supposed to be happy or sad, I don't even know"
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I think for me the ending when Naruto and Minato meet in the 4th shinobi war for the last time is the best example or Itachi and Sasuke meeting for the last time those are simply great, personally for me in shippuden I really like the voices besides maybe Shino and maybe Tsunade but in the original Naruto I don't think I could stand some of it mainly for Naruto's voice because it just didn't sound like him at all, the voice actor when I was younger sounded like he/she smoked 12 packs of cigarettes a day, that might've just been because I was younger though because in reactions videos he sounds fine now.
But yeah, for my Hero there's been improvements but it sounds sooo... immersion breaking to me, especially Deku at times although the VA's improved especially where it was recorded, the feel is quite different compared to Daiki Yamashita who I love hearing the voice of the most!
redestro attack from above actually cut off 3 of shigaraki finger sadly anime censor it. also anime adapt the part where redestro stress ball attack wrong , shigaraki touch the stress ball burden (purple colored attack) and destroy the stress attack while get throwned not touching redestro finger actually like in the anime
I wasn't upset exactly, but I was honestly a little worried they nerfed him in the anime by not making him capable of decaying the ball. Thankfully, next episode showed that he can.
This single Episode carried the whole season for me !
it almost felt cathartic when tomura did it to his father ngl
Yo youtube trippin with these 2 15sec ads that you cant even skip
You guys need to watch the ova on UA-cam titled All mights rising it shows Nana (All mights predecessor) dying
It’s Subbed but still good 👍
If you want to learn more about Nana’s end, I suggest watching the short 3minute OVA “All Might’s Rising”! It is mostly about All Might and what he did leading up to his debut and his grief over Nana, but it does show Nana going up against AFO too.
Also, your theory about AFO having a part to play in the death of the Shimura family could still hold some weight! You guys talked about it towards the end, but here’s additional ammo for the theory. In one of the scenes that was cut out from the anime during this episode, a stranger in a suit drops Tenko off back home after he was playing hero outside. Its either the same day as this tragedy or a short few days before it.
It’s been a theory for awhile that it could potentially have been AFO himself and that he maybe gave Tenko the quirk, which then awakened at the worst time. It also aligns more w/ Midoriya’s parallels w/ Shigaraki: Both quirkless (presumed in Tenko’s case, because he was 5yo w/o any signs of a quirk, and it was suggested they didn’t think he would manifest one) yet looking up to All Might and wanting to be a hero, families who didn’t believe in their dream of becoming one, and being given a quirk by someone extremely powerful, etc. It turned out to be pretty fortunate for Midoriya, but for Tenko it led to the destruction of his whole life as he knew it.
Be prepared lol
With Shigaraki's past it happened to me the same as with Nina's scene in Fullmetal, I heard that it was super sad and all that and I made a lot of mental movies for that, and when I watch the episodes for the first time I think "just because of this was all the fuss?" (?
There is a rather popular fan theory that AfO did orchestrate this situation. In the mange (cut content in the anime), Tenko was brought home by a mysterious man that I think claimed to be a police men. The current theory is that AfO gave a quirkless Tenko the decay quirk in the hope that he would accidentally murder his family.
I think it's for the best that they left that part out since it hasn't been confirmed that it was AFO. The anime could have made a mistake in hinting towards it being AFO because it's entirely possible that Horikoshi intended for it to be a random person.
YESS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS REACTION 😭😭
For me Tenko's quirk maybe destructive but with the right training you can become a cool hero
This is the darkest episode in MHA. So let’s get into this character analysis.
Trumpet: This guy’s quirk is really sweet for politicians. But…it feels like the most dangerous kind of quirk. Even if it is pure support. It just makes my skin crawl seeing those people get incited to attack the league like that. And then he just plainly puts himself above Spinner. Which drives me nuts.
Spinner: This poor guy has an honest Yamcha problem. He wants to be relevant, he wants the attention, he wants to see what world is created for him to better thrive. But no matter where he turns, he just gets knocked around. And if he met Stain, even Stain I’m betting wouldn’t be too keen on his approach either. So it makes his relationship with the league SO much more understandable. He truly has no way forward without the league. Shigaraki accepted him. And now he has a bond with him over video games. Which is so sad to be so desperate for acceptance that you cling onto a sadist’s shared video game interest and let it take you to places you never would’ve gone simply because no one else would take you. It’s only one dedicated scene, but you get some SERIOUS incite into Spinner here.
Redestro: Not going to lie, this is easily the most powerful emotion quirk. There’s ones like love, shame, and others. But stress being power. That is just an excellent yet sad quirk. It doesn’t take much to build, it’s hard to get rid of, and when you spiral it just comes in such fast waves. Regardless how happy and optimistic you are. And to be a leader of an army and trying to live to your family’s reputation for over 100,000 people. No wonder this guy is so ridiculously strong. It’s not just the perfect fit, but there’s no way for him NOT to be powerful. Plus it doesn’t just boost his strength, but his size, his speed, and he can conjure it into long range attacks too. And he’s even more immune to Shigaraki’s decay more than ANYONE else he has fought other than Snatch the sand hero. But Dabi and Compress killed him in less than a minute in season 4.
And then there he is. Shigaraki aka Tenko Shimura: This man. Having the WORST mutation circumstances ever. Never turning back to any semblance of love his family gave him because they refused to be there for him when he truly needed him. And what was the catalyst? His dad freaking pushed his trauma onto the ENTIRE family. Berated them for mentioning it, locked him out of the house, and although that was only the start of the beating, it never would have improved. The dad had no parental instinct. And with the blind hatred…I won’t deny it. That’s worse than the Todoroki’s. Even the grandparents were on the down low manipulative, telling him to stop crying so they don’t cry while HE is being abused. He was just there. And didn’t get the attention he needed. Even if there were freckles of it. Like his friends letting him be All-Might, his sister being marginally caring at times, his mother caring for him in EVERY WAY BUT the abuse. Had he lived there into his teens, imagine how toxic that environment would get. It would’ve just going further. And poor Nana having no choice but to fight AFO because LITERALLY no other quirk can stand against him. The father was a spiteful asshole willing to tear apart not just his mother’s good memories but EVERYTHING she stood for. What a freak trauma or no. His resolve of going too far was VERY weak.
Let’s talk about the newest upgrade in power last. Now it’s merely a 2 finger touch trigger in his fight with Redestro and he’s gaining the bigger decay moves as time goes. I spoke of the Medusa effect from his hands. But now that we saw the puppy puddle, it’s time to say what the anime has been doing. It is not just censoring from us the viewers. But Shigaraki himself. In season 1 his decay tore off flesh like tree bark against Aizawa. That is happening EVERY TIME. Just the larger amplifications get so bloody and disgusting he has to keep blotting it out. And that’s made clear by the family slaughter. It shows the Medusa effect, but then you see the puddle of blood and people pieces. And he blows people away like the wind. There isn’t a single person on earth I can think of that their brain wouldn’t try EVERYTHING it could to blot out such a horror in real life. Even a sadist like Shigaraki. His brain is nearly fully developed if not already fully. And his brain is STILL screaming this is too much. When he used the high amplification on that group of dozens of people in the Toga episode, he immediately vomited. And knowing he remembers now means he can take it even further.
Also to make it clear for Endeavor vs the Shimura father. Endeavor was the cause of everything with his emotional habits. Shoto’s mother and siblings had no factor in adding to the toxic environment as his mom actually addressed the abuse many times and protected Shoto. And STILL was emotionally available to what he was most vulnerable to. Being a hero does not make you your father. She was driven mad yes. But it was all Endeavor never letting himself be vulnerable. Covering fear and sadness with anger. And once his emotions were dragged out from under him, was when he knew he needed to atone. And he never blamed his family for the environment. And at the VERY least, Shoto did get assets like great battle instinct and he still made his own personal choice to become a hero anyway. The father of Tenko didn’t just make a toxic environment, but he blamed it all on others up until that single hesitation which vanished INSTANTLY. Pushing his past onto everyone and punishing those that considered doing what he disliked. And it kept escalating. It was never going to get better. And no one defending him when he needed defense was just WAY worse. And his explosion wasn’t about playing hero, but SEEING A PICTURE. And it IMMEDIATELY turned into beating him. There was no rhyme or reason even to those that knew the trauma he endured. Saying she made me suffer and you knowing of her existence equates to you suffering is just not something that can ever even be GLEAMED for positive attributes.
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Trumpet quirk just enhances them thats it. Those other people are liberation warriors so they were ready to attack he just made them stronger. And some things you wrote for the other characters makes no sense
@@terencesdurag2823 his quirk is called incite. Yeah I know it’s all support, but he spurs them to action. Even if it’s not a literal command it may as well be.
Also where did I mess up? Maybe speed isn’t a quirk factor for stress. But his reactions are so good it feels like it is. I don’t see where else I missed anything.
Quirk discrimination has come up multiple times in this show, but every time there have been other characters reassuring the user that they define their quirk by how they use it. Example: Shinsou and Deku.
Shiggy got the opposite. AFO told him his personality is defined by his quirk, essentially saying he has no hope to change or be good and the only one who will ever except him is AFO. It’s no wonder he turned out the way he did. Several other characters in this show could have ended up villains if they hadn’t happened upon the right people. Shigaraki just got unlucky-no one was there to set him on the right path like everyone else, and instead he got the direct opposite. Sheer shit luck.
Excuse me while I cry
Edit: Also I can’t quite place why but Shigaraki’s line, “Isn’t that bizarre?” line from before greatly disturbed me. I don’t get freaked out by dark backstories easily, I tend to love them. But that single line made me literally pause the show and just stare at the screen. I think maybe it has to do with how tragic it is that he KNOWS he’s messed up, and is outwardly confused by it. A lot of the time these sorts of characters (and even people in real life) don’t recognize that they have an issue/don’t realize their train of thought is nonsensical.
But Shigaraki KNOWS. He understands it’s incomprehensible that something that messed up could possibly be calming. And he VERBALLY acknowledges it in front of his allies and basically friends. Somehow that adds a whole new layer of shocking and disturbing to me.
He knows he’s messed up. He knows his thought patterns are flawed and he’s baffled by it. But he’s so far gone at this point it’s too late to turn back even if he could will himself into wanting to. Freaking hell man.
This really emphasizes that Shigaraki is kind of a twisted Deku. Like both of them were growing up just wanting to hear someone tell them that they could be a hero. But noone ever did. Everyone just apologized and said it wasn't really their fault but noone ever just said what they needed to hear.
And then when they were at the bottom, someone came to them and told them not to worry "because I am here". All Might appeared and told Deku he could be a hero. All for One appeared and told Shigaraki that he couldn't, but he could become a villain instead.
And then both were trained to become their masters successor.
Other kids with dangerous quirks? Yeah uh... BAKUGO?! Kid literally has explosive sweat. Imagine him running around the house, working up a sweat then BAM! Bye bye dad's arm.
We always had great heroes in this show
But now we have a great villain too
I see the dub changed the line where Spinner said he’d “take Shigaraki’s load”
Tenko’s sisters dub scream 🤣🤣🤣
Twice’s clones have a mind of their own, BUT they inherit all memories until the last time they talked to twice. If twice talked to Dabi on Monday and he cloned him on Friday WITHOUT seeing Dabi tue-Thursday, then clone dabi would think it’s Monday
Definetly one of the best episodes yet.
The next one is pretty good too.
Can't wait to see how they handle next season.
I do want to make sure you got my request to check out Wolf's Rain once this season of MHA is over. Got to look it up and see if it interest ya.
I'm not too worried about next season. I can agree that this season could have been handled better, but I place most of the blame for it being one of the "worst" seasons on the first two arcs. Even with the cut content, MVA is still a great arc (I'd say A or S tier) in the anime overall, and the other two weren't even that great in the manga compared to MVA. However, that's mostly me just speaking objectively. Personally, this is probably my third favorite season right behind 4 and 2.
Even though I knew it was coming it was still said to see. Maybe its just been a while but I don't remember the blood in the manga.
I am very suspect of the whole event, especially with how quickly All For One approached Shigaraki after he fell to the streets. Ever since reading this chapter in the manga I have suspected All For One was behind it. If anyone could orchestrate that disaster it would be him. Part of this has to do with the fact he was already five when his quirk manifested. Yes, he would need contact with him, but he could of done that before hand. For all I know he has a quirk that could of caused him to black out or erase his short term memory so he wouldn't remember it. Then he could of put the house under surveillance and just waited.
The quirk wasn't fully developed right away. What they mistook for an allergy was his quirk manifesting. Shigaraki isn't immune to his own quirk, it just doesn't effect him to the same extrema. The stress his father put him under certainly exhilarated things, but knowing his father it likely would of still ended badly even if his quirk slowly got stronger. All For One has studied quirks for a very long time and it wouldn't be hard to figure out how that quirk would develop if he found it in another.
That said its still possible his quirk developed naturally and All For One had nothing to do with it, but he is still sus.
Now next ep-. Get ready
Shigarki deserves a re zero with all might
It's these few villain episodes that make me worry if I'm gonna be able to handle watching the rest of My Hero Academia. Especially this episode in particular. I'm not good with super dark stuff like this, and I almost didn't even finish season 5 after barely getting through this episode, 'cause I was afraid it would just get worse. :"D
anyone born with that kind of quirk is more likely than not gonna get a dark dark childhood, most wouldn't have been as unlucky, just think of the odds of all these things happening in a row, quirk manifesting at that time, after getting beaten before sister and mom apologise / help, the event itself was such sadness, noone helping on the street for however many hours straight, running into the worlds greatest villain. like he couldnt have done anything different, and if even ONE person had then this wouldn't have happened
I almost cried as i saw this episode. My familiar situation was pretty similar… so i kinda can relate to Shigaraki 😕
The saddest part is that him being happy with finding his grandmother is a hero made his quirk manifest itself more strongly (before it was manifesting as itchiness and dry skin when at home which is what [being in a home that is emotionally abusive] was holding him back from showing any other manifestation of the quirk) and being truly happy for awhile pushed his quirk into an evolution which we saw when he accidentally broke a bit of the ball...than the first time his father hit him made the already manifested quirk spiral out of control 🤷♂️
OFA already knew where this family lives so it’s not beyond him to implant this decaying quirk into a young shiguraki 🤷♂️
Oh and the English dub missed the opportunity to give us the load joke 😢
@@saolal no, they did. They just said it at the beginning instead of where we heard it in the sub.
Whos death was Sadder
Dad
Mom
Grandma
Grandpa
Hana
Dog 🐶
The earthworms sleeping underneath his house
Dog, definitely. Mom close second.
Random thought. Think all for one killed nana and after all might beat him found nanas descendant and all that. But what if he used a forceful activation quirk on him instead of giving him the quirk.
Shigaraki is the Deku who no one supported or believe that he can be a hero
In Naruto, he was able to receive the memories of his Shadow Clones after they vanished, so i assume Twice could potentially share that in common with his copies.
Did you guys watch that OVA of All might Rising?
I have a theory that maybe OFA gave Shigaraki the quirk without him knowing. Like on his way to school or something he brushed up against him and gave hime the power knowing this would happen. It seems way to coincidental that AFO just randomly runs into Nana's grandson after this happened.