One thing I've found with the false edge cut is that it's better to bring it all the way through to a high guard rather than extending it out to 'tap' the hands- which I find leaves your hands open to a double or afterblow descending cut from the opponent. Cutting right through brings your hands out of the way for your opponent's response,
Those posta video have become my favorite video publication of the month! Also, at 4:10 you recommend always having an horizontal angle. Is that because of the risk of sliding the sword under the neck-protection of our sparring/training partner?
It is because thrusting at an angle doesn't start flexion, or starts it the wrong direction. This means that you can receive a nail into your throat, you can do it, but you have to pay attention, and aim for the chest and not the neck, which feels counteintuitive, it feels smart only when you had a hard time drinking water for ten days instead ;-).
That danger of upwards thrust going under your mask and into the neck is very real - I once saw a guy get stabbed straight into the neck. Take special care if your sword has some sort of curve at the tip, e.g. a Kriegsmesser, a (possibly hand and a half) sabre or just a broad blade that rounds off rapidly at the tip.
Is there is some crucial difference between this posta and dente di cengiaro? They both have the same mechanisms, same basic offensive and defensive actions. BTW these posta videos are the best :-)
There is actually a crucial difference, this posta beats upwards with the action I show in the video. Dente di cengiaro instead beats sideways from left to right with the false edge. It is not crucial in terms of tactics but it is in terms of representing movement, as a parry from one or the other posta has to work in a radically different way. Thanks!
I always saw them as dente being more to the outside and porta being more central - just about the only practical difference being what Federico said: what actions are more practical from them. (If you go strictly by the illustrations, then dente also has hands drawn further back, but you can do that in porta as well and it still acts like a porta) It also changes a bit depending on your position, if you are in what would be just barely a right dente, but your opponent is slightly off to your right, then it behaves more like a porta.
@@FedericoMalagutti Just tried it, and I understand it better now :-) I was missing that true edge part, I have always beaten with false edge. Which works better with cengiaro, which made me think that there is no reason not to use cengiaro.
@@MartinGreywolf That is similar to what I thought too. But now Federico added that true edge beating, which I have never done, and it seems quite interesting.
There is a part of the video that is not clear to me, at one point you say that it is more difficult for a long sword to make the lever, but at the end you say that it is very important for larger swords, could you please explain it to me?
I think you are mixing up various things together: Leverage: I say that it’s harder to move a very LONG LONGSWORD from side to side because of the leverage (lateral movement). That’s why Fiore in the Porta di Ferro glossa says that porta di ferro (not porta di ferro MEZZANA, which this video is about, but Porta di ferro) is better if you use a short Longsword, because it moves laterally to defend. Porta di ferro mezzana moves vertically and avoids part of the problem. 2 It’s good for longer Longsword: Fiore says that PORTA DI FERRO MEZZANA is good for longer Longsword, exactly for the motivation explained above.
@@FedericoMalagutti ooooooh now I understood everything, I'm sorry for the confusion, now I understood what you were referring to, thank you very much for the clarification
Another great video in this guard series. Are you able to edit the video transcripts? I’m assuming that they are generated automatically with speech recognition, but the AI cannot handle the Italian words. How about making corrected text available to Patreon supporters? If that were true, I’d sign up immediately! Searchable text would be a great tool.
I am really short on time with training, teaching and working on UA-cam and Patreon! I’ll anyway try to make a video with main words, with spelling etc
One thing I've found with the false edge cut is that it's better to bring it all the way through to a high guard rather than extending it out to 'tap' the hands- which I find leaves your hands open to a double or afterblow descending cut from the opponent. Cutting right through brings your hands out of the way for your opponent's response,
You can do both things, but it depends from the angle and, tournament wise, on how the opponent reacts
My favorite guard, people have a hard time not immediately attacking into it even though they know it's a trap.
just started hema (longsword) in a fairly new club and i am very grateful for your videos!
great content! keep it up!
You are welcome ;-)
Those posta video have become my favorite video publication of the month!
Also, at 4:10 you recommend always having an horizontal angle. Is that because of the risk of sliding the sword under the neck-protection of our sparring/training partner?
It is because thrusting at an angle doesn't start flexion, or starts it the wrong direction. This means that you can receive a nail into your throat, you can do it, but you have to pay attention, and aim for the chest and not the neck, which feels counteintuitive, it feels smart only when you had a hard time drinking water for ten days instead ;-).
Great video.
Thank you for the guide 🙏
You are welcome!
YES YES YES ! Finally Guard series I am waiting for thank you >_>
You are welcome
That danger of upwards thrust going under your mask and into the neck is very real - I once saw a guy get stabbed straight into the neck. Take special care if your sword has some sort of curve at the tip, e.g. a Kriegsmesser, a (possibly hand and a half) sabre or just a broad blade that rounds off rapidly at the tip.
Hello Martin, a question for you: do you know if the above mentioned guy was wearing or not a gorget/throat protection of some kind? Thanks.
Is there is some crucial difference between this posta and dente di cengiaro? They both have the same mechanisms, same basic offensive and defensive actions.
BTW these posta videos are the best :-)
There is actually a crucial difference, this posta beats upwards with the action I show in the video. Dente di cengiaro instead beats sideways from left to right with the false edge.
It is not crucial in terms of tactics but it is in terms of representing movement, as a parry from one or the other posta has to work in a radically different way.
Thanks!
I always saw them as dente being more to the outside and porta being more central - just about the only practical difference being what Federico said: what actions are more practical from them. (If you go strictly by the illustrations, then dente also has hands drawn further back, but you can do that in porta as well and it still acts like a porta)
It also changes a bit depending on your position, if you are in what would be just barely a right dente, but your opponent is slightly off to your right, then it behaves more like a porta.
@@FedericoMalagutti Just tried it, and I understand it better now :-) I was missing that true edge part, I have always beaten with false edge. Which works better with cengiaro, which made me think that there is no reason not to use cengiaro.
@@MartinGreywolf That is similar to what I thought too. But now Federico added that true edge beating, which I have never done, and it seems quite interesting.
There is a part of the video that is not clear to me, at one point you say that it is more difficult for a long sword to make the lever, but at the end you say that it is very important for larger swords, could you please explain it to me?
I think you are mixing up various things together:
Leverage: I say that it’s harder to move a very LONG LONGSWORD from side to side because of the leverage (lateral movement). That’s why Fiore in the Porta di Ferro glossa says that porta di ferro (not porta di ferro MEZZANA, which this video is about, but Porta di ferro) is better if you use a short Longsword, because it moves laterally to defend.
Porta di ferro mezzana moves vertically and avoids part of the problem.
2 It’s good for longer Longsword: Fiore says that PORTA DI FERRO MEZZANA is good for longer Longsword, exactly for the motivation explained above.
Watch the video about Porta di Ferro before watching this one to better understand the concept.
@@FedericoMalagutti ooooooh now I understood everything, I'm sorry for the confusion, now I understood what you were referring to, thank you very much for the clarification
@@SrGatonegro27 don't worry, you are welcome.
Another great video in this guard series.
Are you able to edit the video transcripts?
I’m assuming that they are generated automatically with speech recognition, but the AI cannot handle the Italian words.
How about making corrected text available to Patreon supporters? If that were true, I’d sign up immediately! Searchable text would be a great tool.
I am really short on time with training, teaching and working on UA-cam and Patreon!
I’ll anyway try to make a video with main words, with spelling etc
Anyway if interest you, on my Patreon I’m delivering the full interpretation of Fiore Longsword ;-)