I'm new to compound bows and had a shop put my bow together. I was going mad trying to figure out why I couldn't adjust far enough left to get on target. Your tip with the mounting block (which was crazy obvious in hindsight!) put me right back in the middle of my windage. Thank you!!
Thanks! Glad it was helpful. The true 1st axis is typically all set from the factory, but there is an Allen screw out by the housing to adjust that if needed. If you mount the sight to the riser holes, your 1st axis should be good, but always good to check. Some companies refer to the vertical slide adjustment as the 1st axis though in their instructions, so it can be confusing.
Thank you for sharing very informative 👍I'm a novice archer and your content is consistently helpful! I'm in the process of mounting a regular Fast Eddie Double pin and I'm hoping you can help in regards to moving the mounted position of the housing on the vertical rail. You mentioned that you'd be moving your housing down a notch to increase overall shooting distance of the sight/bow. Well, my issue is that if I move it down, then when I nock an arrow and test clearances, the sight housing contacts the arrow shaft when the wheel is spun and the housing is at its lowest point of travel on the vertical rail. Do you follow..am I making sense? I think I need to raise the housing mount location a couple notches up to allow arrow clearance but I then reduce the overall distance capability of the sight and bow. Any way around this? For reference - New from packaging in its factory settings, the arrow made contact with the housing's larger MRT ring when wheel is spun to the lowest travel point. If I keep the housing at its factory setting on rail and use the smaller MRT ring is just clears the arrow at its lowest point. I'd prefer to use the larger MRT ring if possible although I don't want to sacrifice too much shooting distance capability of the sight/bow. Thank you for making the time to read thru this essay. Your time and expertise are much appreciated! Mike in Canada 🇨🇦
Thanks for the question and for watching! You are on the right track and moving the housing up will be just fine. You really won't sacrifice any shooting distance as, really, moving your housing up is only going to affect where on the vertical slide the housing sit. You will loose clearance at the same spot regardless of where the housing sits. So, maximize where you put the tape, and you'll be fine. If you are wanting more clearance and longer range than your current setup gives you, a lighter arrow and/or faster bow, or more poundage (if possible) will help get more distance, but obviously you'll lose other valuable penetration and momentum properties when you go too light on the arrow setup. Hope that helps!
@@BackwoodsPursuit one follow up question...is it normal for the riser to partially block the sight ring? Hoyt Axius Alpha / Fast Eddie Double pin. The arrow's center in rest is at 13/16" off the Berger hole. Even with the smaller MRT sight ring, it is partially blocked by riser. Something to be done or learn to live with it? Many thanks!
Hey there Brian! Man, that totally depends on the bow. Finding a flat sit can be a challenge on some of these risers, but the Hamske 3rd axis level will give you the best shot of making that work. You could also clamp a flat piece of sheet metal or cardboard on there and try making a flat spot that way. Best of luck!
Great vid just bought this sight and this video explains perfectly how to set it up. From talking to a few different people they usually put their scope as high as it can go on the vertical slide to get maximum range, but you mentioned you like putting it at the bottom, what’s the difference between putting it up at the top vs the bottom?
Thanks Gabe and thanks for watching! There's certainly not "right" or "wrong" way in regards to where you put it on the vertical slide, but putting it lower worked well for me. I can still shoot well past 100yds set up that way, and it allows me to also dial in to exact shorter yardage if needed(use the bottom floater pin for, say a 37yd shot with a tight window). Do what works best for you though! It all depends on your bow set for sure. Thanks again!
Awesome video. What is your recommended sight for hunting and 3D? Have you tried the triple stack and which Black gold would you recommend? Looking at Spot Hogg or Black Gold.
Thanks! I haven't tried the triple stack yet, but have both this Spot Hogg Fast Eddie XL and the Black Gold Pro. Both great sights, but I personally prefer the Black Gold. Thanks for watching!
@@TrueLineOutdoors great question! I like to go with the .19 for the top couple (20-40yds pins, then do .10 for the 50 and 60yd pins. Has worked well for me.
I'm having the same issue with my triple stack as mike from Canada mentioned. I have the spot Hogg triple stack same setup as your video housing is just the same I have the small housing MRT ring and I'm shooting a way lighter arrow than last year 525gn-287fps arrow to now roughly 490grn- (idk) fps. Pulling 75lbs, and having trouble after sighting in. Sighted my bow in at 60yards and decided why not roll it down to see what she can do. Couldn't get bottom pin anywhere close 90yards stopped at 80ish yards on sight tape. Keep on mind my housing on the vertical slide is the same as in your video almost to it's lowest setting. What should I do? Have any recommendations?
Man that's a bummer! You could mess with moving the housing, but as far as the sight goes, not a lot else you can do there unless your bow has a second set of mounting screw holes. Sorry!
@@phillipwhittaker2389 thanks man! Sorry I can be more help on that one. Really only nother thing I can think of is to mess with your rest and/or nock point, but that's starting over with your tune, which may not be worth it for a few more yards. Thanks for watching!
Hey again! So you mean when you are looking through the peep at full draw do you see any of the sight housing? If that's what you mean, that's more a function of your bow and the tune of your bow, anchor point etc.
@@BackwoodsPursuit so when I look thru the peep at full draw it cuts off the right side of my housing? Is that okay or do I need to shift the housing left?
@@cadenritter6257 it's not the end of the world. I've had that happen before and it's more a matter of form and how the bow is designed and tuned. You can try moving to see if you can get it sighted in while being to able to see the whole sight housing. Let me know how it goes. Thanks!
Hey Michael! I've got an OMP Versa Micro Vice. It's super nice. I believe when I made this video I was using one of those American Archery Products yellow vices that is much more affordable. Thanks for watching!
Are the spot hog sights modular in the way that the sight housings are interchangeable? For example: if I buy the 3 pin slider can I later swap out the sight housing (only) for the single pin housing?
@@BackwoodsPursuit it makes sense that they would be except I noticed that the connection to the dove tail Is a rod or post on the single pin whereas the multiple pin appears to bolt directly to the housing itself.
@@mikethadeeter agreed....it would make sense, but I hadn't looked at them to see if they are interchangeable and I don't have a single pin around to check for you. Sorry!
So maybe I missed it but is there no adjustment on the 1st axis? I watched the video and never saw any specific 1st axis attention other than just leveling the bow? Am I missing it?
Thanks for watching and that's a great question! The 1st axis really is just the sight (and mounting bracket) being level to the riser. So, unless you've put a shim between the riser and the mounting bracket, there really isn't any 1st axis adjustment (on this or any other sight that I'm aware of). Just level the riser and put the mounting bracket on and the 1st axis should be good. Most sights only have 2nd and/or 3rd axis adjustments, but the 2nd axis adjustment is commonly mistaken for the 1st axis.
I've used a Hamskea 3rd axis level (here's a link to that video for setting 3rd axis ua-cam.com/video/A0ETBeLFybE/v-deo.html). I've also got a home made level(just a cut off carpenter's level) for keep the riser level when setting the 2nd and 3rd axis (here's a video on that setup...its on a Black Gold sight, but same process ua-cam.com/video/fb4ZB_1G3-Q/v-deo.html). Is that what you were asking?
@@BackwoodsPursuit nah, I was asking how you determined the bow was at a 45 degree angle when you started the 3rd axis alignment. You tilted the bow forward and down but only said it needs to be at a 45, yet you didn't show how you determined you were at a 45.
@@jaywarren3505 oh, gotcha. I don't believe it needs to be at a perfect 45 degree angle, just eyeball it. It's meant to simulate a steep downhill or uphill shot.
just tried using my spot hogg xl on my v3x fro the first time using the Bridgelock system and i cant! I cant push the sight far enough to the right its crazy. its all teh way over and im still shooting 4 inches right. I posted this on Archery talk too. someone help me out im going nuts!
Hey there! Sorry to here that....that's frustrating! Have you tried flipping the little bracket that connects the sight housing? There are a few options which gives you additional windage adjustment since there is very little windage adjustment on the Fast Eddie XL. Let me know if that works!
@@BackwoodsPursuit wow thanks for that fast response! I’ll have to check which one you’re talking about i haven’t taken anything apart yet just slid that bar over and then twisted the windage knob a bit. Unfortunately by that time it was too dark to shoot but I don’t think it’s going to work anyway unfortunately. But I’ll take a look at what you mentioned thanks a lot!
@@superkool7 you bet! Check out around the 3:50 mark...that's where I go through the difference ways to set up that bracket for additional windage adjustment. Hope that helps!
I'm new to compound bows and had a shop put my bow together. I was going mad trying to figure out why I couldn't adjust far enough left to get on target. Your tip with the mounting block (which was crazy obvious in hindsight!) put me right back in the middle of my windage. Thank you!!
Awesome! So glad it helped and happy shooting! Thanks for watching!
I just picked up this sight and found that Spot Hogg has zero set-up info on their website. Thanks for putting out this video. Now I know what to do!
Absolutely! Glad it was helpful and thanks for watching!
That knob will work with Tight spot quiver mount, just you have to dremel it a little bit that corner in angle, where the knob is.
Thanks for sharing Robert! I'm sure that would work great. Thanks for watching!
@@BackwoodsPursuit sorry about my broken English, I'm not a native speaker. I though can be handy to share my experience.
Kind regards Robert
@@robertfazekas4607 no problem at all! Much appreciated!
Great content
Thank you, and thanks for watching!
Great video man dumbed it down for me to understand! Don’t have a bow vise got a brite site to do it. I was wondering what about the 1st axis ?
Thanks! Glad it was helpful. The true 1st axis is typically all set from the factory, but there is an Allen screw out by the housing to adjust that if needed. If you mount the sight to the riser holes, your 1st axis should be good, but always good to check. Some companies refer to the vertical slide adjustment as the 1st axis though in their instructions, so it can be confusing.
Thank you for sharing very informative 👍I'm a novice archer and your content is consistently helpful!
I'm in the process of mounting a regular Fast Eddie Double pin and I'm hoping you can help in regards to moving the mounted position of the housing on the vertical rail.
You mentioned that you'd be moving your housing down a notch to increase overall shooting distance of the sight/bow.
Well, my issue is that if I move it down, then when I nock an arrow and test clearances, the sight housing contacts the arrow shaft when the wheel is spun and the housing is at its lowest point of travel on the vertical rail.
Do you follow..am I making sense?
I think I need to raise the housing mount location a couple notches up to allow arrow clearance but I then reduce the overall distance capability of the sight and bow.
Any way around this?
For reference -
New from packaging in its factory settings, the arrow made contact with the housing's larger MRT ring when wheel is spun to the lowest travel point. If I keep the housing at its factory setting on rail and use the smaller MRT ring is just clears the arrow at its lowest point.
I'd prefer to use the larger MRT ring if possible although I don't want to sacrifice too much shooting distance capability of the sight/bow.
Thank you for making the time to read thru this essay. Your time and expertise are much appreciated!
Mike in Canada 🇨🇦
Thanks for the question and for watching! You are on the right track and moving the housing up will be just fine. You really won't sacrifice any shooting distance as, really, moving your housing up is only going to affect where on the vertical slide the housing sit. You will loose clearance at the same spot regardless of where the housing sits. So, maximize where you put the tape, and you'll be fine. If you are wanting more clearance and longer range than your current setup gives you, a lighter arrow and/or faster bow, or more poundage (if possible) will help get more distance, but obviously you'll lose other valuable penetration and momentum properties when you go too light on the arrow setup. Hope that helps!
@@BackwoodsPursuit Big time that helps a bunch! Thank you kindly good Sir 👍
@@canadoescalling1800 absolutely! Glad it was helpful. Best of luck getting all set up!
@@BackwoodsPursuit one follow up question...is it normal for the riser to partially block the sight ring? Hoyt Axius Alpha / Fast Eddie Double pin. The arrow's center in rest is at 13/16" off the Berger hole.
Even with the smaller MRT sight ring, it is partially blocked by riser. Something to be done or learn to live with it?
Many thanks!
@@canadoescalling1800 it can be...depending on your archer point, tune etc.
Great video I have 1 ? when you do your 3rd axis at full draw where do you attach you hamskea level at ? I cant find a good place to put it !!
Hey there Brian! Man, that totally depends on the bow. Finding a flat sit can be a challenge on some of these risers, but the Hamske 3rd axis level will give you the best shot of making that work. You could also clamp a flat piece of sheet metal or cardboard on there and try making a flat spot that way. Best of luck!
Great vid just bought this sight and
this video explains perfectly how to set it up. From talking to a few different people they usually put their scope as high as it can go on the vertical slide to get maximum range, but you mentioned you like putting it at the bottom, what’s the difference between putting it up at the top vs the bottom?
Thanks Gabe and thanks for watching! There's certainly not "right" or "wrong" way in regards to where you put it on the vertical slide, but putting it lower worked well for me. I can still shoot well past 100yds set up that way, and it allows me to also dial in to exact shorter yardage if needed(use the bottom floater pin for, say a 37yd shot with a tight window). Do what works best for you though! It all depends on your bow set for sure. Thanks again!
Backwoods Pursuit I’ll test out a few different positions, thanks for the help.
@@gabeq3447 sounds great! Let me know what you end up doing. Thanks!
Backwoods Pursuit I tried a few different things and I ended up moving in to the bottom as well, seems to work the best for me.
@@gabeq3447 awesome man! Glad you got it worked out!
Awesome video. What is your recommended sight for hunting and 3D? Have you tried the triple stack and which Black gold would you recommend? Looking at Spot Hogg or Black Gold.
Thanks! I haven't tried the triple stack yet, but have both this Spot Hogg Fast Eddie XL and the Black Gold Pro. Both great sights, but I personally prefer the Black Gold. Thanks for watching!
@@BackwoodsPursuit thank you!! What pin sizes do you prefer?
@@TrueLineOutdoors great question! I like to go with the .19 for the top couple (20-40yds pins, then do .10 for the 50 and 60yd pins. Has worked well for me.
@@BackwoodsPursuit Awesome!! Thank you very helpful!!
@@TrueLineOutdoors very welcome! Any time.
I'm having the same issue with my triple stack as mike from Canada mentioned. I have the spot Hogg triple stack same setup as your video housing is just the same I have the small housing MRT ring and I'm shooting a way lighter arrow than last year 525gn-287fps arrow to now roughly 490grn- (idk) fps. Pulling 75lbs, and having trouble after sighting in. Sighted my bow in at 60yards and decided why not roll it down to see what she can do. Couldn't get bottom pin anywhere close 90yards stopped at 80ish yards on sight tape. Keep on mind my housing on the vertical slide is the same as in your video almost to it's lowest setting. What should I do? Have any recommendations?
Man that's a bummer! You could mess with moving the housing, but as far as the sight goes, not a lot else you can do there unless your bow has a second set of mounting screw holes. Sorry!
@@BackwoodsPursuit I appreciate your response! And love the videos keep up the hard work!
@@phillipwhittaker2389 thanks man! Sorry I can be more help on that one. Really only nother thing I can think of is to mess with your rest and/or nock point, but that's starting over with your tune, which may not be worth it for a few more yards. Thanks for watching!
Where can I get the non-disconnect set screw for the dovetail?
Hey there! I believe you can get that through Spot Hogg....I'd call them directly and see if they can one out to you.
Thanks for watching!
Should your riser cut off any of the sight housing? Or is that when you need to adjust the first bracket you should in the video?
Hey again! So you mean when you are looking through the peep at full draw do you see any of the sight housing? If that's what you mean, that's more a function of your bow and the tune of your bow, anchor point etc.
@@BackwoodsPursuit so when I look thru the peep at full draw it cuts off the right side of my housing? Is that okay or do I need to shift the housing left?
@@cadenritter6257 it's not the end of the world. I've had that happen before and it's more a matter of form and how the bow is designed and tuned. You can try moving to see if you can get it sighted in while being to able to see the whole sight housing. Let me know how it goes. Thanks!
@@cadenritter6257 is the bow sighted in and you then can't see the whole sight housing?
@@BackwoodsPursuit okay thanks
What kind of Bow Vice do you use? Thanks for the vids!
Hey Michael! I've got an OMP Versa Micro Vice. It's super nice. I believe when I made this video I was using one of those American Archery Products yellow vices that is much more affordable. Thanks for watching!
@@BackwoodsPursuit awesome, thanks for the quick response!
@@michaellewis5258 absolutely!
Are the spot hog sights modular in the way that the sight housings are interchangeable? For example: if I buy the 3 pin slider can I later swap out the sight housing (only) for the single pin housing?
I believe they are interchangeable as long as you stay with the Fast Eddie lineup. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe so.
Thanks for watching!
@@BackwoodsPursuit it makes sense that they would be except I noticed that the connection to the dove tail
Is a rod or post on the single pin whereas the multiple pin appears to bolt directly to the housing itself.
@@mikethadeeter agreed....it would make sense, but I hadn't looked at them to see if they are interchangeable and I don't have a single pin around to check for you. Sorry!
@@BackwoodsPursuit no worries. It’s always worth asking. Thanks for the great content! Informative and to the point.
@@mikethadeeter absolutely man! Appreciate you following the channel!
So maybe I missed it but is there no adjustment on the 1st axis? I watched the video and never saw any specific 1st axis attention other than just leveling the bow? Am I missing it?
Thanks for watching and that's a great question! The 1st axis really is just the sight (and mounting bracket) being level to the riser. So, unless you've put a shim between the riser and the mounting bracket, there really isn't any 1st axis adjustment (on this or any other sight that I'm aware of). Just level the riser and put the mounting bracket on and the 1st axis should be good. Most sights only have 2nd and/or 3rd axis adjustments, but the 2nd axis adjustment is commonly mistaken for the 1st axis.
which level do you use to ensure you're at a 45 angle for the 3rd axis adjustment ?
I've used a Hamskea 3rd axis level (here's a link to that video for setting 3rd axis ua-cam.com/video/A0ETBeLFybE/v-deo.html). I've also got a home made level(just a cut off carpenter's level) for keep the riser level when setting the 2nd and 3rd axis (here's a video on that setup...its on a Black Gold sight, but same process ua-cam.com/video/fb4ZB_1G3-Q/v-deo.html). Is that what you were asking?
@@BackwoodsPursuit nah, I was asking how you determined the bow was at a 45 degree angle when you started the 3rd axis alignment.
You tilted the bow forward and down but only said it needs to be at a 45, yet you didn't show how you determined you were at a 45.
@@jaywarren3505 oh, gotcha. I don't believe it needs to be at a perfect 45 degree angle, just eyeball it. It's meant to simulate a steep downhill or uphill shot.
@@BackwoodsPursuit ah ok i gotcha! ty so much for the communication !!!
@@jaywarren3505 you bet! Let me know if you have e any other questions!
just tried using my spot hogg xl on my v3x fro the first time using the Bridgelock system and i cant! I cant push the sight far enough to the right its crazy. its all teh way over and im still shooting 4 inches right. I posted this on Archery talk too. someone help me out im going nuts!
Hey there! Sorry to here that....that's frustrating! Have you tried flipping the little bracket that connects the sight housing? There are a few options which gives you additional windage adjustment since there is very little windage adjustment on the Fast Eddie XL. Let me know if that works!
@@BackwoodsPursuit wow thanks for that fast response! I’ll have to check which one you’re talking about i haven’t taken anything apart yet just slid that bar over and then twisted the windage knob a bit. Unfortunately by that time it was too dark to shoot but I don’t think it’s going to work anyway unfortunately. But I’ll take a look at what you mentioned thanks a lot!
@@superkool7 you bet! Check out around the 3:50 mark...that's where I go through the difference ways to set up that bracket for additional windage adjustment. Hope that helps!
mine has different brackets, older or newer who knows
Interesting...I'm sure there are a few variations out there. Thanks for watching!