The Legendary Beasts - Pokemon Crystal Solo Challenge Race
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Rules:
1. Only my starter in battle
2. No items in battle, except held items
3. No glitches, exploits, save states, or RNG manipulation
4. No evasion moves before level 100*
Rule details:
-- *In gen1, evasion boosting is allowed if the Pokemon does it through means other than learning the move by level up or TM. For example, using Mimic or Mirror Move to boost evasion is allowed. (This exception is to keep ranking consistent with my legacy videos.)
-- I am allowed to manipulate my starter
-- I play the game at 4x game speed
-- For fair comparisons all my Pokemon have perfect (or near perfect) DVs / IVs
-- I am allowed to catch HM users - I can use all field moves
-- All in-battle glitches are allowed in generation 1
-- In generation 1, I'm allowed to skip Marowak with the Poke Doll
-- Surge's trash-can-puzzle is automatically solved
-- The bike is allowed in gen1, banned in gen2, and allowed for bypassing terrain in gen3
-- Saving between league members is allowed
-- If the solo Pokemon faints and I choose to blackout it counts towards my reset counter
-- I can pause the game and timer to take breaks
-- The footage is sped up / slowed down to match the pace of my narration
-- The ability Pickup can only be used if the starter has it
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The thumbnail art for these videos is always a treat
Really well done
I opened this video and your comment was directly above a link to another video with Reese’s peanut butter cups as the thumbnail. Got a good laugh at that.
What a great way to cap off crystal playthroughs for the year.
Scott has really taught me how to enjoy crystal playthroughs, it really has a different set of challenges compared to gen1 and is a pretty cool journey at least with scotts editing and storytelling. Im sure the progression, rocket plotline, and Kanto section are pretty boring for scott but he makes the playthrough fun for us.
Eusine: I'm on the hunt for suicune!
*player sends out suicine*
Eusine: *heavy breathing*
It's okay, he gets a shiny Suicune in Pokemon Masters EX 😊 Kris has the original one.
On the twelfth day of December, Scott's Thoughts gave to me:
The Johto trio roaming
Surge's 'Chu with a competent trainer
Classy Cat v Pig Monkey!
A moonstone evolution
The "Rhydon of gen three"
A Pure Power powerhouse
Wattson's ace in Hoenn
'Phan v Ursaring!
A tiny turtle's bubble
The fire starter digging
A garden lizard's leech seed
And those three weirdo mons punching
😂😂😂😂😂 funny nice one
Thats the original 12 days done. _Keep it up!_
take my upvote and leave. i love this lol
Just for reference, (conversational Japanese speaker here who lived and worked in Japan, but native english speaker who enjoys studying languages) Raikou is meant to be pronounced Rah-ee-kō-ü with the first two and last two syllables frequently slurred together. Japanese frequently shortens or omits vowel sounds that aren't easily spoken quickly when the syllable combination is awkward. So it becomes Rai (like Tie) and Kou (like Whoa) where the "Oh" sound rounding into more of a shortened oo like root (as in 'rooting for').
All three Beasts use the same name across most languages although the official pronunciations in English seem to change depending who the director of the project was (Raikou has been pronounced both how you have done in this video, and how its pronounced in Japanese in English Pokémon media so you'd be correct either way, but your inferred pronunciation you had growing up would be incorrect. Other examples of inconsistent pronunciation in English Pokémon media include Rayquaza as Ray-Kwah-zah and Ray-Kway-zah and Arceus as Ahr-SEE-us and Ahr-KEE-us. In Japanese, Arceus uses the first pronunciation and Rayquaza is called Raykuuza).
Did you ever tell your friend they were right lol
I love these small stories you tell 😂
It's part of why I love you and jrose so much. Just thr abillity to tell side stories to make it flow.
Scott, First of all, thanks for these! You put in a lot of work.
I think Suicune's performance illustrates a point you've made before--gen 2 doesn't need massive attack output, it needs staying power and move diversity. High atk and spa are overkill, as you pointed out with the baby mons. Suicune's coverage and defensive staying power gave it an edge at several important points
Love your videos but the Staind hate is just uncalled for! "It's been awhile" is a banger!
I love seeing creators reinvest in themselves and the videomaking! Your content just keeps getting better!! Love the comparison videos and your style of commentary as well as attention to detail with these playthroughs!
Low key love that song 😂😂 Keep up the great work Scott!! I love your videos and I believe you’ll hit a 100k subs next year!!
This trio was a fun and surprising rivalry to see unfold! With regards to Suicune, I'm surprised that you didn't make use of Hidden Power in the final solo. Aurora Beam does fill a similar role to HP Ice and Bayleef isn't that scary, so I get why Ice isn't that good, but maybe Electric would be good? It would help against Chuck's Poliwrath and even Pryce's Water types (not that they're very threatening anyway). These were very well played and it was a fitting end to the Crystal series this year!
Honestly it's a mon that doesn't need hp
I love the long videos don't ever feel bad about giving too much detail, I enjoy all the fine details and nuances throughout the runs. Keep it up, long time watcher, first time commentator!
Great content, man!
By the way, the 'correct' (whatever that means!) pronunciation is supposed to be RYE KOH, at least in the original Japanese.
Hey Scott, I was beginning to think that this video would never happen, this one was long awaited, hope all is well!!!!
Oh wow I finally got to the bit about Falkner's mud-slap damage calcs, that's so cool
Outstanding video as always Scott! Keep up the great work! Some feedback on that (not in a negative way), there are two things that I personally dislike about the approach: first is TM Curse. I think it should be banned. It basically fixes all Pokemon at the end. Second is the rival, Pokemon that have weakness to grass have a disadvantage which gives a massive advantage to Pokemon that do not have a weakness to any of their Pokemon - say a normal pokemon or a psychic.
...I always thought you had to push down all 4 rocks in the Ice Path Strength puzzle! I learned something today!
So funny thing, around 57:00 you were talking about how electric+ice gives amazing coverage. This is actually a very common thing in older gen pokemon that stuck around for a long time, being known as quite good/important in a competitive pokemon. That thing is called BoltBeam (Thunderbolt and Ice Beam) because of the exact reasons you described. I think it was still a prominent part of competitive lingo until generation 5 where it started to die off.
IT's still a very good combination, because it can hit ANYTHING for at least neutral damage, if not super effective and ice is one of the best offensive types. It's just that there are other viable combinations that hit for either neutral or super against everything, so it's not the be all end all of move combinations.
As late Gen 8 OU has shown through Arctozolt, BoltBeam can still be very effective (though it had to be in Hail and have Low Kick)
57:49 - we call this Bolt-Beam coverage (Thunderbolt and Ice Beam) which is a very solid special attacking core.
The guy that spins around and takes u to the wrong place had me laughing.
I love your content.
Whoa whoa whoa, I wasn't ready to see a Magic card in a Scott video
I’ve been thinking this for awhile now. Move pools have been a HUGE difference in gen 2. When a poke has good coverage like Elekid it just makes its first run so intuitive and easy.
Raikou is just transliterated from its Japanese name, so the best English approximation I can think of is that it rhymes with “psycho”.
Amazing how close these times are! I think this might be my favorite run from you.
Thanks for all the recent uploads! I’m sorry you thought you were getting gaslit about Suicune existing 😢 Happy Holidays!
I used the legendary beasts in SS, and extrasensory became my favorite move. It isn't the strongest, but it had good enough damage, so much PP, and a flinch chance. 😍
Awesome run! My favorite won! I won't spoil 🤫
This was a stunner! All 3 did quite well, but I was expecting Raikou~=Suicune>Entei. I know it reduces the HP DV to 8, but is HP Ground worth considering on Suicune for Red's Pikachu? A Return/HP Ground/Rest/Curse set seems like it would be quite consistent.
I was surprised he didn't go for HP Rock for Entei, but I also don't know the DVs. HP Ice is just so good because you get to keep almost perfect stats.
Suicune probably has enough bulk to give up some hp dvs
@@rooislangwtf True! It was never legitimately threatened at any point when Scott was playing well. At least not to the point where the HP DV would matter.
Entei only really needed HP for the Lance battle, so Ice is usually better than Rock for that with the added benefit of ensuring Clair's Dragonair aren't an issue. You also get the Ice boost from Pryce. Ice is 15A/13D (15 HP) and Rock is 13A/12D (11 HP), so slight advantage there too.
Entei really should've gotten Earthquake and Rock Slide - he's essentially synonymous with eruptions, and what do eruptions often bring with them? Earthquakes and rock slides.
Such missed potential, even to this day...sure, he did get Extreme Speed and Flare Blitz via Gen 4 movie event, and Sacred Fire (!!!) from Gen 6 move reminder, but that doesn't really increase his coverage, unfortunately.
IT'S BEEN A WHILLLLLE - My friends and I sing that line anytime somebody says it by accident.
I used Suicune in Stadium 2. It was really good for a general use water pokemon, but I didn't account for how damn tanky it is. Barely anything scratched it. I don't think it ever went down, especially with Leftovers.
The memories, my first game was soul silver and i remember using a master ball on Raikou. It was one of my best pokemon, tho i hadn't caught Lugia due to using the master ball. But i was happy with it, Jolteon, Typhlosion, and the red Gyarados. But yea since that day i have always liked the legendary beasts especially Raikou!
I got spoiled on the results because I just had to see what other people said about Scott's opinion on Staind before I forgot to check. That song is so good.
I constantly sing Staind songs to my wife; she is never impressed.
This upload made my day, thanks Scott!
The changing live over lay is my favorite part of every video! Also love pokemon but ya art is subjective!
I learned from this that these mons can learn Dig. I never knew. I know Dig is not as ridiculous as in Gen1, but still, that's crazy.
Also, story time: Back in Crystal, in the save I completed the pokedex on for the very first time, I accidentally KOd Entei. I did not realize at the time that you needed all three dogs from YOUR game to unlock Ho-Oh, so come wanting to catch it, I had to realize it was gone forever. So yeah, ironically enough, I had to get Ho-Oh from another game even though Gen2 was the one time the box legends weren't exclusives.
I haven't seen many youtubers do a run with the doggos this is going to be epic thanks again for the amazing content 👏
weird. you didn't keep Bite vs Bruno's Onix since it has bad sp def.
Early on I gotta say, you vastly underestimate Suicune. Have you already forgotten the lesson of Blastoise?
2.2k great job Scott!
I have NEVER heard it called RAY-koo 😂
I caught the beasts relatively late in my original Gold playthrough and remember being especially disappointed by entei. I vividly remember the first time I ran into one of them roaming and it was Raikou, maybe the reason it's my favorite overall (though I really love using suicune in competitive)
when you said suicune is a wall and those aren't any use in a race my first thought (from playing ADV OU mostly) was that suicune isn't a wall, it's a bulky sweeper. So no surprise it's performed so well, probably the best of the three (the time diff is on the level of having a longer name)
Have you heard the theory that these pokemon were a vaporion, flareon, and jolteon before ho-oh revived them?
I look forward to the gen 2 eeveelution vid to compare them to these.
First-run Entei's Rival4 "Nice" was the longest I've taken to find it. I was waiting for past the battle to see its unlowered stat (yeah, this video's playing off to the side...), and I frame-by-framed to see if there was something in the level-up screens, until finally looking at the opponents' stats, and resuming play verbally reconfirmed it's the Haunter.
In regards to the spoiler you said if you can get what I'm assuming is Moltres the top spot of the three legendary birds in yellow it would be the greatest fire type solo run in Pokemon history
Sorry to say, but both of those Raikou pronunciations are incorrect. The anime clip that called it rye-coo was likely from an older 4Kids dubbed episode. In newer dubs, which are more carefully supervised by the Pokemon Company, it's rye-koh.
Btw. If you're ever unsure about a Gen 1-5 Pokemon's official pronunciation, you can just look up a UA-cam video with all the pronunciations from Pokedex 3D Pro!
I'm pretty sure the only times I ever used Entei and Raikou in battle were in Pokemon Colosseum. I'm almost certain I caught both of them at one time in Silver or Crystal, because I know all the strats and vaguely remember the frustration. It was godawful, fucking roaming legendaries. There's some absolutely cursed methods of obtaining Pokemon in the early generations, culminating in the psychopathic war criminal that designed the Honey Tree system. though, the person who decided how Feebas encounters should work belongs in prison as well.
Suicune, tho, because it's so much easier to get in Crystal, I used it a LOT. I didn't realize it was a defensive Pokemon, though, lol. like, I wasn't looking at stats, for the most part. I just thought it was neat. Even in Colosseum I used Suicune more.
Entei basically won because of higher physical attack, lol. that was just destiny, and neither Raikou nor Suicune could ever overcome that.
Chuck really said "Now is Annoy Scott- day"
He did
I'm gonna say now for Vigoroth vs Slaking that it's a question of stats vs consistency.
I'd love for you to do an occasional run with a good Poke with a bad nature. Could be a subgenre of your runs. Take like a great Physical attacker and give them a Modest nature type of deal. Could be fun to see which Pokes can fight well with that type of disadvantage.
Entei's back sprite looks great, what are you talking about?!?
In my honest opinion, the legendary beasts should have their Crystal sprites, but have the Gold and Silver color palettes. That way they look more colorful, but more accurate in design.
Literally just a day before the Indigo Disk comes out at that. They’re returning in the DLC!
Raikou doing so bad is really interesting to me considering it’s the main for Crystal speedruns
Take your time on explaining stuff no ones complaining of the times of the vids🤘🏼
Currently watching on Boxing Day 2023 while cleaning
Entei was the first of these 3 i caught and it carried me through the game. BTW Staind back then was not aweful!
I feel like Entei will be number 1 then Raikou would be last. I didn't watch the video.
Edit: I watched the video past the first playthrough, and I'm happy that suicune won the first playthrough.
Edit 2: I predicted the second run, though. I expected Raikou to do the worst anyways as an electric type and Entei to do the best cuz people say it's better than Suicune. Either way, this was pretty cool to see.
Great result for suicine since it is meant be a defensive tank.
I just noticed you renamed the Squister. When did this happen?
I like how you said you called it "ray koh" but you'll say "ry koo" for the video and by the end of the video you were saying "ray koo"
When me and my friends first saw raikou we figured they couldn't think of a name and just spelled raichu but changed it a bit. This was common knowledge on the school playground.
Great video dude!
Only on your first playthroughs now, but it seems thay Bite would work better against the Onix and Exeggutor for Raikou and Entei, respectively. They're both 2HKOs so all you need is one lucky flinch (or crit) to get by them. Obviously, Raikou will have HP Ice the second time around though anyway
Wait, Scott only just recently discovered the type coverage calculator. I've been using that website for years... and honestly find it to be lack luster. It's nice that you can switch between the two major type charts, but it's still not as useful as it could be for earlier generations because the list is always cluttered up with Pokémon that didn't exist yet. It really would be so much better if it had modes for each generation.
Heck, the hardest part of most games is the Elite Four and Champion, so a calculator that was just for their teams might be the best thing of all.
Finally a fire type doing better than a water type!
If it makes you feel better about not knowing crystal existed. I was talking to a kid at school and was telling him about a new game I got for Christmas. I couldn’t read very well because I was just learning English/reading since coming to the US and I was in second grade. He said the game sounded fun and asked me what it was called. I couldn’t read the name so I told him it was Mario the cowboy. He laughed at me and I felt like a fool. It was Mario party 2 btw
Entei was always my favorite out of the trio, his design was awesome and just radiated power.
Suicune on the other hand was always my least favorite of the three, the fact that t turned into the "pity" dogo in crystal felt like salt in the wounds I gained from hunting thouse bastards.
Raikoh is fine, no hard feelings from me.
Vaporeon, Jolteon, Flareon incoming?
Always deserves a like!
Honestly I would watch a 6+ hour video if you made it Scott XD
Is this going to be a battle for second, or do the other two dogs have something to say against the perceived favourite?
One for the continued awesome content.
Lets goooo!!!! My boy won!
One for good luck. I'm rooting for Entei and Suicune. Not so much for Raikou.
you really Sound motivated at the Start. are you alright there?
I don't mind the long vids, as of typing this I am playing Minecraft to build a mob farm while listening and watching a bit.
Anyone else want a link to that type coverage calculator?
Day 7 of commenting every video until Magneton gets a Pokemon Yellow solo run!
Justice for the scourge of solo runs!
23:50
Is Rocket Executive Petrol worthy of art yet?
There already exists art for him on this channel.
Used sparingly, I suppose...a shame
All the Rocket admins have official art since they're official Pokemon characters, just Google them in another window, shrink it and put them in the corner of the video lol
I'm sure it's an inside joke, but why do you always say Venomoth is a ground type? Or bug/psychic, or some other odd pairing? Legit curious
Because he always got it wrong as a kid. Its wings and its use of Psychic tripped him up. Now he just gives it whatever random type as a joke.
@@gaminggoddess85 ohhhhh! Haha that's awesome! Thanks for letting me know! 👌🤣🤙 I would confuse it for Butterfree's typing, Bug/Flying
Special attacker is relatively slower just because of red's snorlax.
Iirc one of the developers said that there is no objective correct way to pronounce a pokemons name
I just watched Eggsceptional do this exact solo race in FireRed. I think Raikou won in his. (And he also mispronounced Raikou)
I like the long videos
Raikou back sprite is underrated
You had to get that song stuck in my head...
I think the reason Suicune gets BubbleBeam at L.11 is because it's the box art Pokemon. In Gold and Silver it had Water Gun at L.11. I think they gave it a better learnset for Crystal because it's part of the story and they wanted it to be stronger when you fight it, rather than to make up for its lower offensive stats (although interestingly in future generations its level-up moves are based on the Crystal learnset, they didn't revert back to the Gold/Silver one to put it back equal with Raikou and Entei).
I think this really demonstrates the idea of overkill in these. 90 base special attack is still absolutely usable, and having higher defenses + being a water type I think is worth more.
But Entei won
@@somerandomperson2626 It was faster by less than 20s, that's literally the amount of time difference displaying Suicunes longer name text than entei plus him bumping into walls notmplaying perfectly. These videos aren't precise enough to show an exact "winner"
@@almarkowbender fair point
So I guess the lesson we’re supposed to take away from this video is that Elekid is OP
This video is gonna be insane!!!!! Suicune For the win
Always liked these guys, the fact that they actually ran around the map and you had to track them down blew my 9 year old mind. Also enjoyed the classic debates of what kind of animals they're supposed to be - particularly memorable was hearing them described as the "legendary gerbils".
Wow...I was NOT expecting Entei to win the final round! Outside of Jasmine, this generation is not kind to Fire types, but I suppose that Attack Stat is what helped it edge out in the end. As always, excellent job, Scott and Team!
Flareon syndrome but better stats and movepool means it's not a syndrome anymore.
@@JayHankEdLyon I like Flareon but that pokemon really doesn't have the physical bulk nor speed back it up it's viable.
Phys Atk >> Spc Atk in Gen 2 thanks almost solely to Return and Red’s Snorlax.
A said Snorlax that also knows Amnesia.
Entei has Flareon syndrome, but it manifests only in competitive because Johto is very weak.
Scott, Entei has the swagger + psych up combo. I think you can set up one (or two) swagger then copy the stats right away (basically a swords dance); this way you are not slowed by curse and can sweep.
What about a run where you make a “super” custom Pokémon and see how fast it can blaze through the game? Like you would choose its type, all moves, xp growth, ability, etc. I think it would be cool to see the most ultra-optimized run possible
Make sure to keep the base stats maxed at 600 total
1 HP/Def/SpAtt/SpD, enough speed to outpace the fastest threat, the other 400/500+ in Attack, Ghost-type to avoid the three priority moves. Use normal effective attacks to avoid the text you get for effective moves. Still 600 bst and becomes a game of clicking A to beat every mon as fast aa possible.
Anime Pokedex be damned! The electric catdoggo's name is pronounced Rye-koh! The Katakana for its name are "ライコウ" which are "ra i ko u."
I will die on this hill.
18:04 the lightning fast double nice! i love the attention to details! thanks for daily december scott ❤
i never understood why suicune got its own game cover and so much importance compared to the other two since its just 1/3 of a trio, that would be like zapdos being on the cover of yellow
They probably thought Celebi wasn't "cool" enough to warrant being on the cover and there were no other legendaries left outside the trio...
Spiky chicken deserves 3 game covers
Lore reasons with eusine id have to guess making it the easiest to mold a third game around
Entei having a main role in the 3rd Pokémon movie means it received comparable importance to Suicune...I feel more sorry for Raikou who is definitely the least loved by GameFreak
The way you pronounce "Raikou" hurts my ears. You should pronounce it like it's a bread company: Rye-Co.