Can You Use The Boost Pack On A DESK? ( Fanatec DD PRO / CSL DD)
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- If you want to get a CSL DD or a DD Pro to use on the desk consider this video.
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Rig Specs
▶Simetik K2R + GTOmega XL RS seat (Sent by Simétik and GTOmega)
▶Fanatec DD1 + CSL DD 8Nm (Sent by Fanatec)
▶Fanatec V3 pedals
▶Thrustmaster TH8a
▶3DRap Akina handbrake (sent by 3dRAP)
▶Playstation 4 w/ drivehub
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For anyone using the clamp, just a quick FYI.
I managed to snap the piece of metal that the thing you turn tightens into (The bit that looks kind of like a squared off Y shape from the side) when trying to eliminate the up and down wobble you see in this vid.
I've no idea how much torque I got up to when it snapped but I was only using my hand to tighten.
Fortunately for me the clamp was only ever meant to be temporary and I was aware I was pushing it to see how much it could take, I just thought I should say something so it can be avoided by others.
pinned. buyer beware
This seems to be an issue with the "trying to remove wobble" situation. I stripped my female metal insert from a T500RS doing the same.. these days I use some books under the base to keep it from wobbling #poorsimracing
@@randomcallsign Thanks for pinning, i've been cranking mine but I won't be anymore lmao
Me too I scrap my T piece on the desk mount. That is so poorly made. Maybe I will craft my own piece...
Same thing happened to me, the piece is made out of cheap and frail aluminium, so no surprise when it breaks:(
The good of Ikea desks is that they give you a lot of immersion, as you go over curbs everything shakes like in real life 😂
I also use the GT DD Pro 5nm on a desk, at first I felt the clamp wasn't good cause it was flexing, but than I tightened it, and tightened it, and tightened it again, and I must say you can REALLY REALLY tighten that thing HARD! In the end there's no more flex anymore as the desk itself is very solid. Never thought this clamp would be so strong, but it is!
Been using the 8nm on a desk clamp for half a year with zero issues, it's been a great experience. The desk is sturdy, but nothing special.
Thanks mate!
How thick is ur desk?, mine is 4.9cm thick would it be fine?
@@GRIID9 4.9cm? Are you sure? That's super thick, you'd be absolutely fine with that. My desk is 2cm thick, at most.
@@JoseCoig yh I have the ikea malm desk with the chest draw on the side
@@GRIID9 Mine is about 1.5cm thick and is fine, although it does have thick aluminium legs and a brace bar at the back for extra strength.
I did hit a curb the other day which made an Xbox controller on the desk jump about 25 cm's in the air, but the desk/wheel are still good. 😅
Drifting at 8nm looks like the 2022 version of the Takumi water cup challenge, except the challenge is to stop the desk from obliterating back into atoms 🤣🤣
I have a 5 foot 2x4 drilled to my wall and my desk attached to it with angle brackets.
I drilled holes in my desk and mounted the wheel to it with two bolts.
this is the way.
I have seen a lot of sim tips. But if it comes to desk chairs, I always see options that I do not think are good. Like in this video with putting the wheel in the shoe. I personally use "locking chair casters" for my chair. A cheap (20 - 30 dollar) solution that will work better then most other solutions. I just lock them when I am going to use my wheel and that is, it works perfect.
I have gliders for the chair. However I didnt feel like changing the wheels for the video. The shoe tip works really well for what it is.
same I have locking casters, but in retrospect, shoes should work about the same lol.
0:29 THAT'S GENIUS
Thanks for the tip, whenever I used my wheel my chair kept going back i never thought of putting a shoe to stop it hahaha
Great vid btw!
There are wheel stoppers you can get for office chairs that replace the wheels with a stationary casters and then you can put a grippy material on the bottom that will keep it from sliding. Carpet padding works well.
I wanted to keep my wheels, so I can move my chair. Castor cups are the answer. They cost almost nothing and with 3 of them under my wheels I absolutely cannot make them slide on my wooden floor. Then when I'm finished driving, I pick them up.
I put pillows lol works perfectly
very informative for my 3mm glass table
I bought the 8nm gt dd pro with the boost kit and shifter along and never thought about if it would have too much power for my desk, I should probably look into buying a cockpit
If you have the space and budget, probably. I don't have the space so I'm planning to hard mount it in a creative way on a overall stronger than your average desk - desk.
The desk looked fine, the clamp was the problem looking at the video. That clamping for that wheel looks terrible, not sturdy at all, wobbling all over but the table kept rigid. It looked like the clamp would break way before the table moved.
What I took from this is, wooden table is solid, this wheels clamp is rubbish.
The clamp is fine he just did not tighten it, just don't over tighten it either 🙂
The mount couldnt be tightened more without damaging the desk. in all the testing it didnt move sideways or out of place. the up and down motion from the back is unavoidable at high torque.
If you want to call the video misleading at least back it up.
There's a comment from a buyer in this video that says his desk clamp broke with use. Id heed to his comment.
@@randomcallsign use a proper desk then or else put poor desk in the title, there are plenty if us running with good desks with no such issues.
I love your content but using a bad desk which you admit to not being able to accept a fully tightened clamp is actually misleading.
@@Dcully "proper desk" means nothing. IKEA desks are maybe the most popular desks out there. Im glad your desk is sturdy as a rock, but mosts desks out there arent like yours.
There's already two comments on the video stating the clamp failed.
@@randomcallsign proper desk means a sturdy desk it doesn't mean nothing lol. I doubt anyone buying bthis expects it to be fine on an "IKEA desk" , as for the clamp , over tighten and it will snap of.course.
It's the clamp that's dancing around. The desk isn't moving discernibly at all. The monitor is still.
I wonder how that would perform on a solid hardwood desk with some weight behind it. My biggest concern is that the desk clamp itself is just not strong enough for the job, otherwise I doubt it would do much to the desk I use. Real hardwood is stronger by weight than most steel by a significant margin.
I think it's the clamps fault not the desk
I use my Simagic Alpha Mini, 13nm peak at 100%ffb with the Fanatec Clubsport Table Clamp. It's actually super solid (probably moreso than the CSL DD clamp) and hasn't broke my ikea desk yet! Rigs are overrated
never thought about using it with the clubsport table clamp, sure does look like it would hold better. waiting for the csl dd to arrive will keep this option in mind
this is good tip
Good to know it works with that clamp.
Rigs overrated?, you probably don’t have the money to buy one. Buying a good wheelbase without a rig, it’s like putting a big turbo on a complete stock car. That’s very retarded. You just feel attacked by his video and want to try and prove him wrong.
I have a super cheap ikea desk with a csl dd + boost kit. I have a thrustmaster tlcm load cell brake. It is absolutely fine, in regards to stopping the chair from moving I bought 6 rubber coasters from amazon...works a charm!
I have the table clamp but it broke within a week when i looked how it failed is was because de metal part broke in two because of de ossilations. Maybe that the old table clamp clubsport will fit on the csl dd because that was a much beter design
i just looked and it is compatible with csl dd, good option to have
@@SudoSudo-yh9tt nice it is much beter option for not that much more comparing what your getting
Thanks for this! been looking for a video trying this as my Grandpa is going to try to build something for the clamp and the 5nm version... It uh going to be interesting...
i dont know whats wrong with your setup. my tableclamp works absolutely fine.
I broke the desk clamp on day 1! Snapped the mounting metal nut in half. Do not buy! Worth it to get a low level playseat but just please do not buy the desk clamp
I feel the csl dd clamp is just not up to the job. I bolted the csl dd to a plank with some rubber on it and clamped it to the desk with c clamps. I still wouldnt do 100% ffb on it, since it will shake everything off even a rigid desk, but its more solid than the fanatec solution.
Get some L brackets from a hardware store and bolt that desk to the wall
i came to check this video out of interest, because my desk being built as it is, is basically unmovable
Been using a Fanatec Clubsport wheelbase on a desk for years with no issues. I am considering buying a CSL DD Wheelbase and using it on the desk I currently have.
dude tight that shit down like hell its working.... even with 8nm i use it on my ikea desk and i have nor probs at all...
Thank you for your video, I almost bought a CSL DD and I didn't because I have EXACTLY the same desk as you : a heavy kitchen top made of HARD WOOD on top of 2 IKEA Alex's, I guess I will have to stick with my T300 RS, it looks like the clamp is the issue here, as the clamp of the T300RS is really sturdy, I know theres less force but it doesn't move at all.
lol man, just get moza table clamp instead of fanatec one and everything will be okay
my desk clamp broke after 1min of use^^ middle nut broke of so no more desk clamp for me^^
I thought I was the only one that uses the shoe 😅
Fix it on a small plank of wood, then fix the wood plank on your desk with 2 small vice. It will cost around 15 euros and will be a thousand times better and just as quick to put on.
Do you mean putting desk clamps on the wood?
I have mine on my desk however I added a 12 in 2x4 block of wood then clamped it down on each side with clamps.
A lot of the flex appears to emerge from the cheap desk clamp mounting solution. If you bolt the base down it would not flex a bit.
Good video. Maybe a crappy plastic desk isn't all negatives after all. With my CSL Elite at the full 6NM, the desk had some flex to it instead of vibrating. It wasn't enough flex to ruin the driving experience either. I eventually switched to a wheel stand anyways because the pedals kept moving on the carpet.
I use a $50 amazon desk and a dd pro, I have maybe 5% the wobble that he had....
The same principles behind the Scandinavian flick should allow anyone to drift without using a clutch or handbrake
The up and down movement is really bad. And it's not the desk moving, it's the clamp. They just didn't design it well. The base needs to be much further into the desk so that there's not as much torque, better seating position, and a deeper grab on the desk. Don't know how this product made it past r&d because it sucks. Even at 5nm it's terrible when trying to drift. The wheel moves a full 2 inches up and down.
Thank you so much for this video. 🤣🤣🤣That ending was hilarious! Im wanting to get a foldable rig from Next level. Will the csl dd hold up with something like that?
it's the clamp that bad, Moza table clamps are much more stable.
"Desk" covers a lot of territory.
Clamp wouldn’t hold up for me on the desk. For a budget stand get the NLR or omega. You can add the racing seat/cockpit afterwards if space or money is a issue.
Getting rid of the casters is much better. I got them flat caster things and I’m very happy with it I highly recommend it
Didn't you have a Wheel Stand Pro? You could try this base with it, maybe it can withstand the forces fine.
And, if not, what could be the problem, the stand lifting? you could use a plank of wood undermeath it to
secure the stand to it.
Hi, I sold it a couple of years back
@@randomcallsign Oh, it's alright. But do you think that stand could withstand this base at least with some moderate forces? Cheers.
I somehow get a feeling that's not installed correctly or something... there's no way they'd make that as a product if it wobbles that much.
Few questions - my desk has a metal reinforcing bar 7cm inside the front lip. Will the desk clamp fit without bumping that? Also could you share how far out from the front of the desk is the wheel? I have limited space behind me so not sure it'll fit with my chair (but wall will help me not slide backwards..). Lastly - I have the load pedal kit coming - any tips for securing the pedals under the desk?
I don't get this ...my CSL Elite does 6nM ... its clamped to a desk and it doesn't move anything like this D:
Better clamp than this one.
Desk looks fine, the mount looks like it's going to explode. I'll be bolting mine down and chunking the quick mount. Thank you for the research
Yeah I didn’t buy that clamp it looks shit
How are the pedals on the floor? I have a pretty good quality desk, not from IKEA, I don’t intend the to get the boost kit straight away so my only concern is the pedals on the floor.
Desk mounts are not a wheelbase challenge - they are a brake pedal challenge.
Even when i had my logitech g920 on my desk it was too much😂😂 i can only imagine with a csl dd or stronger
Its not the desk its the Clamp
well, i have a g920 and my old ass wooden desk almost collapses some times so...
Good thing I bought a rig
Do you think the 5Nm mode could work on the NLR wheel stand lite? I'm using the g29 and wondering if I could upgrade or if it's not worth it with this stand. Thanks
It should
@@randomcallsign thanks
The boost pack is such a ripoff with this, £150 for what is literally a second power adapter . Straight out Apple's playbook that one to be honest.
It's to make up losses on the DD.
@@derick1618 Who told you that... reddit?
So what? CSL DD is easily the cheapest direct drive base on the market whether you buy it with the boost pack or not.
After all Fanatec is a company and not a charity organization. There are some affordable Fanatec products that allow you to access the ecosystem with a relatively small investment, but most products offer upgrade paths and ways to spend more money over the years. That is their business model.
@@billB101 please never associate me with that website.
@@taekatanahu635 Not about that really though is it. It's about a product that can deliver 8nm straight out of the box ( with no modification ) but is purposely limited until you spend £150 to unlock ( not upgrade ) that with a power adapter they could just bundle it with in the first place. Cool, build a cheap DD, it was always going to happen, but don't take us for mugs like this in the process.
I'm very curious how a Wheel Stand Pro can handle this. Probably I will order the boost bundle because it arrives earlier. If it can't handle I will lower the torque. :)
I have a NLR Wheel Stand 2.0 but still waiting for my GT DD Pro. They are supposedly done with inventory last week, so shipments should resume this week:-)
@@GROGU123 Nice. It will handle fairly. :) I bought my Wheel Stand Pro last year, I like it. :)
I also have a Wheel Stand Pro and I'm curious of knowing how would it handle it....
@@MIntruso It's officially supporting TS-PC/TS-XW/T-GT and CSL Elite so I think it will be fine up to 6nm for sure. I guess I will see what it will done with 8nm. If it can't handle it I will try to replace it with a GT Omega apex, but I like my WSP with RGS so I will keep it if it works. Although I don't have a driller so I will have to order a plate from WSP too, it's some additional cost, but I don't mind if it will work out fairly well.
@fatal thanks for the data, keep us posted...
Noob tip: If you use Monza Junior, there is less force implemented than on Imola 🤣
What monitor are you using?
I don't think you mount it properly.
I was thinking of either getting this or Fanatec dd1 f1 . . .
They need to make that clamp out of thick metal , not from this cheap plastic.
with pedals on the floor can i play or is prloblematic?
its ok as long as you dont use a loadcell. but by being ok, on carpet it will slide, and on the regular floor it may slide if a lot of force is used. put something heavy at the back.
@@randomcallsign grazie mille,friend
that clamp is piece of garbage.table did perfectly fine.
Is this desk made of pressed paper, that is not normal
Its a converted kitchen work top on three IKEA desk legs (2 on the left on at the center) and half of it on an Alex drawer. Its a common type of desk setup.
@@randomcallsign A yes, you need knives then, no steering wheel it wobbles crazy
"tip use shoe". me: my wheels has lock feature. (MSI MAG CH120 X)
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I see a lot of people feeling attacked by your video and trying to prove you wrong. They doing it all wrong, buying good wheelbases, instead of a cockpit first. But trying to justify it, so they feel better about their poor choices. I’m sure most of them will put a 30 psi turbo on a complete stock car.
@@Bombichote1 ok mr know it all
Duu dat shet looks like it's about to fly off your desk. lmao
i dno who would have a DD wheel without something to mount it to XD
Yes. On a decent desk. Not a table with 4 cheap legs. And not with that piece of shit table clamp.
I'm using the 5nm on my desk fine but it's a proper desk absolutely no flex or movement, at least use a decent desk and tighten the clamp properly.
You should remove desk in title to a rubbish desk, I'm sorry but this is a ridiculous video, the clamp is clearly not tightened.
The most popular desks are from IKEA. This is mentioned in the video. The pinned comment has a buyer talking how the clamp broke. The video is correct.
@@randomcallsign yes correct if you say IKEA desk in the title 🤣
Cope, clamplet.
That setup in the video is the most common setup used by UA-camrs and many other people: it is not just a frail Ikea desk, it is a kitchen hard top, sturdier than most desks in the market, rigid and solid; the problem, as usual with most of the wheelbases on the market, is the lame clamp.
Also, I've an old T150 RS Pro clamped on a Playseat Challenge: the problem is still the usual, the lame ass stupid clamp.