I thought you was gonna say , “you should have seen the kids faces when my dream dj setup arrived but what you said was much better. To be honest, the kids would probably have more fun on decks then going to see Micky Mouse.
@Keeny J Carlo is a pioneer fanboy ever since, also constantly labeling himself as "PRO DJ" (yep, in capslock), it's a shame he gets so much attention. Just ignore him^^
@@BlueHawk80 Agreed. When Mojaxx reviewed the fantastic alternatives SC5000 and 6000 in even more detail, those weren't "solid reviews" for him obviously. I wonder why 🤷♂️ ... no, not really.
- No dual layer = no 4 decks on 2 players. - No inbuilt track analyse. MPU for what? - No performance pads. - No inbuilt Wifi streaming card. - No inbuilt option for hard drive. - No loop encoder, cluttered buttons everywhere. - No added Tempo Ranges, still 6/10/16/100. - No multi touch and screen glass protection. - No full track buffering (still 4-beat emergency loop). - No AC power failure buffer = no safety shutdown - Small plastic Hot cues in completely the wrong place. - Doesn't accept SDXC cards, no exFAT, max 32GB - Only one media USB port with 1.0A (was 2.1A before) - Inferior water resistance (Denon have coated PCBs) - 1000$ more than a SC6000 and 1500$ than a SC5000 ... no bashing intended, just countering the "we are club standard and worth the money" marketing arguments I see everywhere, thus copy-pasting likewise. 😏
Dude, perfect summary of this failure. But as long fanboys bring the "denon is for bedroomers" argument, they still gonna go for it, no matter the crazy price.
- No dual layer = no 4 decks on 2 players. - No inbuilt track analyse. MPU for what? - No performance pads. - No inbuilt Wifi streaming card. - No inbuilt option for hard drive. - No loop encoder, cluttered buttons everywhere. - No added Tempo Ranges, still 6/10/16/100. - No multi touch and screen glass protection. - No full track buffering (still 4-beat emergency loop). - No AC power failure buffer = no safety shutdown - Small plastic Hot cues in completely the wrong place. - Doesn't accept SDXC cards, no exFAT, max 32GB - Only one media USB port with 1.0A (was 2.1A before) - Inferior water resistance (Denon have coated PCBs) - 1000$ more than a SC6000 and 1500$ than a SC5000 ... want me to stop copy-pasting this? Stop calling us "Denon bedroomers" first! 🤦♂️
@@blackwingmaster141 It is, and I was a huge pioneer fan myself a few years ago... CDJ-400 and 900 were awesome. The SX was also a great release (for its time). But now... just no...
Another great review/1st look at a new product. Mojaxx is always the first place I go when a new piece of DJ equipment drops. I just wish you said the cost in pounds too.
Pioneer has everyone on that 4 year $5K upgrade plan ... on just the cdj's! 8K if you get the V10 (now standard club mixer) the 900 replacement. Denon... makin' moves.
Great early review Mojaxx 👌 just like he said I'm not a targeted market by any chance cause it will be all the clubs and rentals buying them but as a resident DJ I'll be using them every week and most likely again enjoy the sturdy high standards of Pioneer and have fun (limited) with it in clubs but would I ever consider this as a part of my setup even if I would want to spend 2.5k on a single deck? No freakin wayyy
Car rental lots are overflowing with Toyota Corollas. That’s where this fits in the ecosystem. A Toyota Corolla always gets you there, but don’t expect to get emotionally attached. *[below] You're Right!* It's the *Pioneer DJ *Camry-3000* that's what the C in CDJ stands for.
But isn't the corolla cheaply priced? I mean among other car manufacturers... It seems like pioneer wants to sell a corolla for e class money... I find that pioneer always builds great gear... Perfect for clubs and for people abusing the shit out of them... But remember they were bringing lot's of new stuff to the market when others were still standing... Doesn't look like that any more
When I first saw 3000s, same thing came to my mind, but about Toyota Camry - expensive, good materials, heavy duty build, but without any attempt to excite you or give you something extra.. And if you remember the entertainment system in Camry - same lags here on 3000's screens
@@DanielleKingdjdinosaur It's really just a "fun factor" for us, now. I wish Pio would do their "living platter" thing, but no... This is VERY interesting, though. Stay WELL!!!
One thing that I think is worth mentioning is the claim about better sound quality because it upsamples everything to a higher bit rate. You can't get more than what you start out with. You can't turn an MP-3 into a lossless file. When they do stuff like that, what happens is non musical information is added to the file to trick the music player into thinking the lower grade file is something else. But an MP-3 or even a CD quality file upsampled to a higher bit rate still retains the sound quality of the original format. The only upside I can really think of is if they upsample the file before it gets to a volume control, you may be able to mitigate some of the effects of bit stripping. But that's about it.
Every review of this they keep mentioning how these are for rental companies and clubs, just another excuse for saying Pioneer Dj flopped and Denon is beating them
In Aus a $600 price rise from the nxs2. Kinda glad I’ve got 2 basically new sets of the nxs 2’s. Will be holding onto those for a long time. Using Pioneer for the last 20 years and the first time I’m going, not really that impressed. Might as well save your $ and get the xdj-xz if you still want Pioneer.
Given the target market, I think this will sell whenever the pandemic ends. Does it compete with Denon spec for spec and feature for feature? Probably not. But this is really like Apple vs. Windows. Those in the Pioneer ecosystem will likely to continue to buy and those who value new technologies, spec for spec and value for money will purchase other setups. Denon's software is getting more mature, which should make things more interesting. Plus, I think the XDJ-XZ for half the price with similar functionality is the CDJ 3000's biggest competitor for budget focused medium-large venue setups
What I love is. One of the nonsense but what matters. It’s easy as a nerd/geek someone that wants it all, but they went the apple route and said unless everyone else gets their stuff together (cable companies in the west) why add anything that makes it inferior it works. No one needs multitouch on a digital player or WiFi. I will say there is only one thing they need to work on is Rekordbox 6.
Any news on the upcoming DJM-V12 Mojaxx? I feel the niche for an 8 player festival setup has been missed. With a beam of 12ft it should be ergonomically viable.
LUKE I hear REZZ is up for a DJM-V12 and 8 CDJ-3000s. One to play the timecoded mix, one backup, four to occasionally touch like they do something and a couple at the end for Steve Aoki to mash when he shows. Winnar!
Love your takes Mojaxx. I'm definitely on team Denon/Serato personally, but I'm not willing to write off Pioneer DJ or assume their intentions. I know a lot of DJs our age that bought entire nexus setups for their own personal/mobile use (why??), and my upfront guess is that they're rebranding their product lineup to price some prospective buyers out of the market.
Basically- DJs were asking for an update to the CDJ. Well, here's the best Pioneer can do today. It's a bit underwhelming but it looks solid with great sound. No WiFi is a big miss but not a deal breaker.
I think it makes sense that these don't support WiFi. If you're investing 6k€ plus in your setup, relying on WiFi, which can easily break during your set, is rather paradox.
Great 1st impressions by Mojaxx 👍🏻 player seems nice, wonder if the screen feels like previous cdj-s (like old sat nav’s🤣).. Shame that ditching the cd drive didn’t lower the price. I would expect 2000$. Definitely an interresting piece of gear. Let’s see what they have to offer in “all in 1 unit” segment.
So, what happens if we decide to give it a trial go....but just buy the one to see if we love it. Will it integrate / will Pro DJ link work between it and a couple of CDJ2000nxs2s?
Was hoping for more features on the CDJ, the Camelot key should be a +/- Button on the player itself instead of on the screen. Also the new location of the hot cues will be an issue for many djs including myself... So glad I purchased a DDJ1000 For my personal use
@@RefugeetheDJ look at the specs, the price, the innovation, not at "Pioneer is the club standard". Just try the Denon motorized platter (SC5000M or SC6000M).
Appreciate the overview and looking forward to your indepth review. A glance in the comments and no surprise, the Pioneer vs Denon topic has become increasingly divisive. It’s easier for the underdog/ new entry to be innovative, while the incumbent has the burden of maintaining their legacy, and that is precisely where Pioneer find themselves, particularly with these units. By any chance could you cover these linked with a Xone96 please? I am interested to know how many of the new features, such as stacked waveforms or touch que are tied to the DJM.
Hello good afternoon! Do you know if there will soon be a firmware update to connect the ddj xp2 to the cdj 3000 or 2000 without the need for a computer and thus be able to use its pads. Thank you
my first impressions are that its cluttered looks rushed and though getting rid of the cd slot is good and i like the screen there is still a static jog.After years of spinning jogs from Denon and a number of other spinners including the new Rane 12mk 2s i find this a bit of a let down.So too many buttons and a static jog means its a no from me but then i was always a bit old fashioned and the Rane 12mk 2s will be my final choice as i waited to see what pioneer would do and what they did was more of the same but too much of the same for me.A good quick review by the way.
I find a spinning platter to inherently be more engaging to watch from a spectator's vantage point. I have a pair of CDJ-2000 NEXUS players, and I kinda glad I stopped there. RANE 12 MKIIs for me all day long... Peace!
@@DanielleKingdjdinosaur I meant instead of the Ranes, personally I'm not fussed by motorized platters and will get the standard sc6000 soon (unless something better happens)
“Favorite static players on the market” I would imagine that leaves a lot of room open for Denon DJ’s SC6000M to be your favorite players in the market.
Only thing which is ahead of Denon is the stacked waveform - which is nice indeed. Maybe Denon could add this, but it depends on their internal architecture / how players communicate with each other. In all other aspects it looks like Denon is ahead of Pioneer. So I wonder what the Pioneer engineers did since the SC5000 came out?! Maybe they did the XDJ XZ. Then again, why they didn't took some aspects from the XZ towards the new CDJ? Eg. the big hot cue keys *below* the jog wheel? Even if they could add some aspects later in software (which in my experience is rather unlikely), the physical layout cannot be fixed later. So they have to come up (who would have thought it? :-) ) with a MK2 version shortly...
VictorKibalchich Oh, so that’s what we’re doing now? Wasn’t the Tour-series meant for venues as well? Then what was the regular Nxs2’s? Or the 2000 Nexus? Or the 2000’s? Or even the good ol 1000’s? If Pioneers flagship stuff is meant only for venues then why do they even bother with stuff like the Tour-series which was marketed towards venues?
@@ReboyGTR because there are different levels of venues. AFAIK, the Tour series is aimed at touring (hence the name), kit that needs to be set up and packed down regularly for really big events. The nexus and now the CDJ 3000 are aimed at club installs. As you said originally, the XZ is more for home use (or smaller venues). I have an XZ for my soundsystem, specifically because guest DJs want CDJs but I can't afford them. Why are you getting upset about gear that's not aimed at you? It's weird.
If you’re a bedroom DJ then they’re definitely the better choice, but as he mentioned in the vid- DJs aren’t the target market, it’s clubs and rental companies that will be buying these. Working DJs want to be able to walk up to the decks and know how to use them in seconds, you haven’t got time for a hundred new features when there’s a dance floor full of people waiting for the next track.
I did. Guess what? You can take an MP3 file you use on a Denon and also use it on a club CDJ. No biggie. A little jiggery pokery and you are done. Don’t tell PioneerDJ. Here’s the learning curve: browse load cue play hot cue jog loop. You’re ready to go.
@@mrmyskins excuse for what? I don’t care about Denon or Pioneer, but having worked as a club manager and a DJ I know which one is going to appear in more DJ booths. I think it’s great that there’s competition in the market, Pioneer have had it too easy for too long, but this isn’t going to change the buying habits of companies that buy double digits of units at a time.
@@BeardslapRadio DO YOU KNOW DENON DJ USED TO BE INDUSTRY STANDARD? Theres no point sticking to traditional tech, technology is advancing everyday, look at how much advanced our mobile phones are right now. Would you rather use a table phone?? #ThinkAboutIt
good review. Pioneer is doing the Madden/2k thing with this stuff. Be a good time for the competition to come out with stuff and give these overpriced media players real people pricing.
Someone help me. Played since 1998 vinyl had cdjs since 2006. Just got rid of my 2000nx2 and bought the 3000.however iv noticed they drift like fek im constantly fighting with them and refuse to use sync. Surly this cant be right.
You said with the new gigabyte port along with the V10 mixer these players can link up 6 of these and can they finally count past 4? We spent a lot of money when the V10 came out to find out it only had 1 Ethernet port and could not read up to 6 CDJ’s for back to back sets. Or even run four CDJ’s and DjS1000. So can and will these show player 5 and 6 when hooked up to the V10? Please let me know. I have some already on hold to pick up in the morning, but do not want to run into that problem again.
Star Lord have you seen my IG page? I have nice Cars already over 100k ones and with my void system costing me about a 100k not worried about it. Peep it if you want inside_the_mind_of_lokey. Shit my facade cost 10k. I worked very hard for decades to build what I have my setup right now is no joke. Check it out
They Caged Non I play on all day all night it’s set up for for B2B sets I can reach over and and reach them all with one step, but it’s a lot of work. I run Vermona action filters so I can bring in certain things really low and nice., but it really is for b2b fun for me and my friends. Nothing wrong when flexing though. I had some videos up on my UA-cam took them down to rearrange the whole setup and get all my void setup in here. Should have some mixes back up soon. I set this up before the Covid except for the mixer for that Mid February. Never would of thought I would be locked in my house all this time. The positive part is Im never board with all that gear. You did me my setup up stairs also? That makes 8 CDJ’s 💪 & 🤡’n but seriously I worked very hard to get to this point. Stay positive my man. There is so much hate in this world. I’m older so to see this younger generation just type behind keyboards and knock things is strange and weak to me. Not saying you just have seen it going on way too much. Hopefully the world will realize that is not nice and change. Have a blessed day. LokEy
They Caged Non ice I still play on my 1210 Mk5’s. Funny because just today someone asked me be I would ever sell them. I laughed. I would sell all my pioneer gear before I ever sold my Technics. Never got into serato just spin old school Progressive house. I also haven’t tried the Denon’s. Just always had a plug at pioneer so I stayed with that. Man at least your still working. Hopefully I’m a safe place. If there still exists one out there. I’ve been stuck in my place 1st because of my battle with Cancer then the lockdowns and with my health can’t go out. Sucks.
I was worried about the placement of the hot cues, but now having used the 3k for a while, I really like the position of the buttons below the screen. Never had an issue accidentally touching the platter. Also, I like to place the palm of my hand below the platter, and that would not be possible if the cue buttons are placed on the bottom.
I think that the XDJ players (and controllers/standalones) are really where Pioneer is going to end up competing with Denon, because similar market, similar price range, etc. I don't see the CDJ adopting any of the features of the Prime gear until maybe the next iteration. But yeah I think you're going to see the Denon type innovations going into the XDJ players and controllers/standalones before you'll see them on the CDJs.
No WiFi? Seems like a big miss now that everything is moving towards streaming.. Also weird that its still called the "Compact Disc Jockey 3000". But I still use vinyl so what do I know.
@@itsamedjmario Oh honey, Denon has more features unlike your little Pioneer. I bet you're the guy who argues that Pioneer is a club standard and that's why Pioneer is better in every way 😂.
-no dual layer functionality -no performance pads -no internal track analysis -no cross-platform support -no inbuilt HD/SSD option -no internal WiFi -no loop encoder -no multitouch touch screen -no track buffering (just 4-beat emergency) -no reserve power (power failure) -small hot cues buttons located in horrible position -only one USB port and it got downgraded to 1.0A -no SDXC support (
I miss those days when there was no club standard for anything, maybe the SL-1200mk2s, but that was about it. Nowadays it is all bland and boring Pioneer DJ gear in the booth.
I think people are confusing these Industry standard players to players you would buy to use in there bedrooms.. People who have DJ’d In clubs for years have used pioneer gear.. You would be mad to pay that price for these players for a bedroom.I think the subtle difference between this and the nxs2 will make playing in clubs more efficient and the sound quality will be greatly improved I’m sure. Look forward to using them.
Pioneer used to be in bedrooms, boardrooms ,clubs, bars, cafes,everywhere then they went a bit nuts and now its shrunk to clubs and festivals .Denon ,Rane,and a few others have got the rest.This player is cluttered and has in most important aspects not lead the market for quite some time.Denon and Rane have taken huge bites out of Pioneers market share.This reminds me of the days of I.B.M and the changes in computing that they were unable or unwilling to respond to .
TriStar All I’m saying is practice at home on a cheaper controller or something else.. that’s what I have done and use these players in clubs .As a DJ for over 20 years I have always used Pioneer in clubs and have no real reason to look elsewhere,just my personal choice. I have used other equipment but just find it is not for me..To be honest even looking at these players they look too complicated at the moment to use infront of a crowd.
@@D1CE579 except that there is a marked difference in feel and funtion in a bedroom controller and these things.In their earlier days you had more similarity between the cdjs in the bedroom and the ones in the dj booth and there was a lot more booth bedroom crossover.This the dj equivalent of I.B.M just before they got into serious trouble
Danielle King Agreed.. I just can’t warrant paying £1500/£2000 for a player indoors, be it Denon,Pioneer, or anything else.You soon learn these players...that’s why subtle differences are great.To be honest Half the stuff on these players i never use anyway.
Good review as always Mojax. However, if Pioneer launches a flagship product and not put the end user ‘s experience and needs first, that says a lot about Pioneer doesn’t it? Thats why you see in more and more dj booths DJ’s rock up and put their controllers on top of the CDJ’s cause the CDJ’s just doesn’t cut it and hence doesn’t deserve the term ‘industry standard’ in 2020. As industry in this case only refer to the rental and sound engineering industry. Not the DJ industry.
I'll give Pioneer props for at least trying. No it doesn't have to match Denon with every feature, that's fine even though It would get some of us off their back. As always, it's geared towards the heavy live environments and not the "entirely" the home user or gear snobs. But can they at least explain why they decided to name it a CDJ when there is no CD drive? Don't tell me there is going to be a $1K modular add-on.
I was waiting for something groundbreaking or at least something on par with Denon (featurewise). With all that new cpu power, cant analyse tracks on the fly, no multi touch gestures, no streaming. But Pioneer still want me to pay an arm and a leg....Might be the last straw for many long term Pioneer consumers.
Did anyone else noticed that most reviews mention how "it's not about fancy new features?" It almost seems like they're excusing Pioneer for the lack of. I love it how the reviews also mention DJ's are not their target audience, it's the rental houses. :/ Just admit, Pioneer could've done a lot better. I've been using CDJ's and Pioneer's equipment since the 90's, and TBH, this release seems lacking. I was expecting more. I just wish more venues & DJ's would be risk takers, get out of their comfort zone and give other brands a chance. Than perhaps, Pioneer would make us their "target audience."
Yes mate and, I've seen some reviewers get proper defensive in the comments when people are legitimately questioning some of the features. It's almost like pioneer pay them to give good reviews..... 😏
To be honest, I don't think 4 years is a long time coming when it comes to a CDJ upgrade. It's not that much different to the 2000NXS and at that price point I would have expected a lot more. Still a good review 👍🏼
Same I treated myself to cdj 900s 2nd hand few years ago there my babys ,always wanted cdj 2000 nexus but cant afford it I seen these and thought my 900s will be dated now and I'll need to upgrade ,but as u say I'm sticking with my 900s plus they have a cd drive so they are cdjs unlike these ,I have a feeling they will bring out the nexus for these with all the bells and whistles and the people who got these will be suicidal
If I was making pioneers I make the job well like the Technics 1200 and I will make the job will like a turntable and spread everything out and with a motor on it it'll be worth your DJ
Wicked, purchased a pair. Should have seen the kids faces when I told them Disney World next year is now cancelled.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hahahahaja
I thought you was gonna say , “you should have seen the kids faces when my dream dj setup arrived but what you said was much better.
To be honest, the kids would probably have more fun on decks then going to see Micky Mouse.
@@grahamkelly8662I doubt that
Solid review, Mojaxx!
@Keeny J Carlo is a pioneer fanboy ever since, also constantly labeling himself as "PRO DJ" (yep, in capslock), it's a shame he gets so much attention. Just ignore him^^
@@BlueHawk80 Agreed. When Mojaxx reviewed the fantastic alternatives SC5000 and 6000 in even more detail, those weren't "solid reviews" for him obviously. I wonder why 🤷♂️ ... no, not really.
- No dual layer = no 4 decks on 2 players.
- No inbuilt track analyse. MPU for what?
- No performance pads.
- No inbuilt Wifi streaming card.
- No inbuilt option for hard drive.
- No loop encoder, cluttered buttons everywhere.
- No added Tempo Ranges, still 6/10/16/100.
- No multi touch and screen glass protection.
- No full track buffering (still 4-beat emergency loop).
- No AC power failure buffer = no safety shutdown
- Small plastic Hot cues in completely the wrong place.
- Doesn't accept SDXC cards, no exFAT, max 32GB
- Only one media USB port with 1.0A (was 2.1A before)
- Inferior water resistance (Denon have coated PCBs)
- 1000$ more than a SC6000 and 1500$ than a SC5000
... no bashing intended, just countering the "we are club standard and worth the money" marketing arguments I see everywhere, thus copy-pasting likewise. 😏
Dude, perfect summary of this failure. But as long fanboys bring the "denon is for bedroomers" argument, they still gonna go for it, no matter the crazy price.
Trueee
Well said!!
Hey but at least you can put your logo in the Jog Wheels 🤣😂🤣
It has a Multi-Core CPU and still can't analyze tracks on the fly. Something requested years ago, still not here. What a fuckin joke...
If you listen closely, you can just hear the champagne corks popping at Denon HQ.
ahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaahahaha!!!
- No dual layer = no 4 decks on 2 players.
- No inbuilt track analyse. MPU for what?
- No performance pads.
- No inbuilt Wifi streaming card.
- No inbuilt option for hard drive.
- No loop encoder, cluttered buttons everywhere.
- No added Tempo Ranges, still 6/10/16/100.
- No multi touch and screen glass protection.
- No full track buffering (still 4-beat emergency loop).
- No AC power failure buffer = no safety shutdown
- Small plastic Hot cues in completely the wrong place.
- Doesn't accept SDXC cards, no exFAT, max 32GB
- Only one media USB port with 1.0A (was 2.1A before)
- Inferior water resistance (Denon have coated PCBs)
- 1000$ more than a SC6000 and 1500$ than a SC5000
... want me to stop copy-pasting this? Stop calling us "Denon bedroomers" first! 🤦♂️
@@m-stat9 I'm sort of pioneer fanboy, but this thing is just...meh
@@blackwingmaster141 It is, and I was a huge pioneer fan myself a few years ago... CDJ-400 and 900 were awesome. The SX was also a great release (for its time). But now... just no...
This is an epic failure on Pioneer’s part. Lol
If i had a choice between these and the motorized denons, it would have to be the denons. way ahead in tech.
Another great review/1st look at a new product. Mojaxx is always the first place I go when a new piece of DJ equipment drops. I just wish you said the cost in pounds too.
*Am i the only one who prefers the old style of the CDJ jog indicator?*
*There should be an option to choose which jog display you want.*
Even with the launch of new product they seem way behind denon DJ.
TRUE
Pioneer has everyone on that 4 year $5K upgrade plan ... on just the cdj's! 8K if you get the V10 (now standard club mixer) the 900 replacement.
Denon... makin' moves.
You don't have to upgrade tho...
Great early review Mojaxx 👌 just like he said I'm not a targeted market by any chance cause it will be all the clubs and rentals buying them but as a resident DJ I'll be using them every week and most likely again enjoy the sturdy high standards of Pioneer and have fun (limited) with it in clubs but would I ever consider this as a part of my setup even if I would want to spend 2.5k on a single deck? No freakin wayyy
Car rental lots are overflowing with Toyota Corollas. That’s where this fits in the ecosystem. A Toyota Corolla always gets you there, but don’t expect to get emotionally attached. *[below] You're Right!* It's the *Pioneer DJ *Camry-3000* that's what the C in CDJ stands for.
But isn't the corolla cheaply priced? I mean among other car manufacturers... It seems like pioneer wants to sell a corolla for e class money... I find that pioneer always builds great gear... Perfect for clubs and for people abusing the shit out of them... But remember they were bringing lot's of new stuff to the market when others were still standing... Doesn't look like that any more
@@viezurelepanykt it's the Toyota Camry of DJ players 😬
When I first saw 3000s, same thing came to my mind, but about Toyota Camry - expensive, good materials, heavy duty build, but without any attempt to excite you or give you something extra.. And if you remember the entertainment system in Camry - same lags here on 3000's screens
Teh Camry has landed. 🙏
So funny , and sadly true .....Camry vs BMW
Thanks Mojaxx for the review ;-)
Thanks for helping me make up my mind: RANE 12 MKIIs for me.
yes another player with static jogs and a huge fuck off price with many economies in trouble with many millions unemployed and no where to go.
@@DanielleKingdjdinosaur It's really just a "fun factor" for us, now. I wish Pio would do their "living platter" thing, but no... This is VERY interesting, though. Stay WELL!!!
Danielle King sheesh let the man buy what he wants and enjoy it
@@icecoldjohnnyy no ones stopping him.Just like no ones stopping people saying what they think of this overpriced let down
One thing that I think is worth mentioning is the claim about better sound quality because it upsamples everything to a higher bit rate. You can't get more than what you start out with. You can't turn an MP-3 into a lossless file. When they do stuff like that, what happens is non musical information is added to the file to trick the music player into thinking the lower grade file is something else. But an MP-3 or even a CD quality file upsampled to a higher bit rate still retains the sound quality of the original format. The only upside I can really think of is if they upsample the file before it gets to a volume control, you may be able to mitigate some of the effects of bit stripping. But that's about it.
Denon....now you have my money!
Yeah but Pioneer isn't after your money, it's after Big Club's money!
Denon DJ will be very excited about this release
Every review of this they keep mentioning how these are for rental companies and clubs, just another excuse for saying Pioneer Dj flopped and Denon is beating them
lol yuuup
I mean, the fact that 95% companies will use/hire out Pioneers way more likely than Denon is making that excuse a bit valid in my eyes.
It’s the difference between selling 2 at a time to a big market and selling 20 at a time to a smaller market.
@@KoooomA Valid or not, it remains an excuse. I would have rather prefered innovation and a fairer price.
I noticed the same thing, I believe Pioneer has asked them to sell it that way
When are you going to do a full depth review ?
Great review Mojaxx!
I'm glad I choose the Rane 12 MKii. For the money, quality, functionality, realism and price, the Rane 12 is setting a new DJ standard.
In Aus a $600 price rise from the nxs2. Kinda glad I’ve got 2 basically new sets of the nxs 2’s. Will be holding onto those for a long time. Using Pioneer for the last 20 years and the first time I’m going, not really that impressed. Might as well save your $ and get the xdj-xz if you still want Pioneer.
Always great Reviews mate! Thanks and keep up the good work, full of info!
Given the target market, I think this will sell whenever the pandemic ends. Does it compete with Denon spec for spec and feature for feature? Probably not. But this is really like Apple vs. Windows. Those in the Pioneer ecosystem will likely to continue to buy and those who value new technologies, spec for spec and value for money will purchase other setups. Denon's software is getting more mature, which should make things more interesting.
Plus, I think the XDJ-XZ for half the price with similar functionality is the CDJ 3000's biggest competitor for budget focused medium-large venue setups
What I love is. One of the nonsense but what matters. It’s easy as a nerd/geek someone that wants it all, but they went the apple route and said unless everyone else gets their stuff together (cable companies in the west) why add anything that makes it inferior it works. No one needs multitouch on a digital player or WiFi. I will say there is only one thing they need to work on is Rekordbox 6.
They Caged Non Do you ever see Denon in clubs. No.
Any news on the upcoming DJM-V12 Mojaxx? I feel the niche for an 8 player festival setup has been missed. With a beam of 12ft it should be ergonomically viable.
The next CDJ/DJM Setup are shipped with a bike.
LUKE I hear REZZ is up for a DJM-V12 and 8 CDJ-3000s. One to play the timecoded mix, one backup, four to occasionally touch like they do something and a couple at the end for Steve Aoki to mash when he shows. Winnar!
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Great video Mojaxx again🤜🤛 nice to watch👍 many reviewer seems to be a little bit disappointed but they can't say it?
Love your takes Mojaxx. I'm definitely on team Denon/Serato personally, but I'm not willing to write off Pioneer DJ or assume their intentions. I know a lot of DJs our age that bought entire nexus setups for their own personal/mobile use (why??), and my upfront guess is that they're rebranding their product lineup to price some prospective buyers out of the market.
7:15 you mention that you can use the players in standalone with the lighting(RBDMX1)? Can you explain how to do this please?
Good First Look Mojaxx!
Basically- DJs were asking for an update to the CDJ. Well, here's the best Pioneer can do today. It's a bit underwhelming but it looks solid with great sound. No WiFi is a big miss but not a deal breaker.
I think it makes sense that these don't support WiFi. If you're investing 6k€ plus in your setup, relying on WiFi, which can easily break during your set, is rather paradox.
@@Sebb747 nothing wrong to have more options. Especially for that steep price.
Never trust WiFi in a production environment! It may be fine for home use and I would consider it a gimmick.
The good thing now maybe they will reduce the price of nxs2 a bit ;)
Nope, they never do...10 yrs from now they'll still be the same
@@lookitthisguy8574 so i better save enough for that xdj xz...seems to be the perfect choice right now
@Star Lord i know my friend...a bar im playing has it and its a great tool..anw for my gigs i have the xdj rx and i have no problems at all until now
hahahaha
No chance.
Great 1st impressions by Mojaxx 👍🏻 player seems nice, wonder if the screen feels like previous cdj-s (like old sat nav’s🤣).. Shame that ditching the cd drive didn’t lower the price. I would expect 2000$. Definitely an interresting piece of gear. Let’s see what they have to offer in “all in 1 unit” segment.
Dj GJ they took that out and put it all in the screen. Kinda how Apple does with there phones
If I had a crystal ball, I imagine I could look into the future. Cdj-3000 nexus with WiFi. 2026 - cdj3000 nexus2 with dual layer deck.
Cheers Mojaxx 👊🏻💥
So much easier to plug in a gig stick. It’s even easier than taking a computer to gigs
So, what happens if we decide to give it a trial go....but just buy the one to see if we love it. Will it integrate / will Pro DJ link work between it and a couple of CDJ2000nxs2s?
Mojaxx great review! please release the full SC6000 review!
Was hoping for more features on the CDJ, the Camelot key should be a +/- Button on the player itself instead of on the screen. Also the new location of the hot cues will be an issue for many djs including myself... So glad I purchased a DDJ1000 For my personal use
Awesome quick walkthrough.. thanks
Good review ! Ravine crew says hi!
goodbye Pioneer! Welcome Denon Dj :-)
Why?
yuuuuuup!!
DJ denon have a cdj incredibly similar to this and nowhere near the same price
@@cilitbang12 yeah true and the denon is a sweet cdj but i think Pioneer will still remain the club standard because its pioneer.
@@RefugeetheDJ look at the specs, the price, the innovation, not at "Pioneer is the club standard". Just try the Denon motorized platter (SC5000M or SC6000M).
Awesome review !
Appreciate the overview and looking forward to your indepth review. A glance in the comments and no surprise, the Pioneer vs Denon topic has become increasingly divisive. It’s easier for the underdog/ new entry to be innovative, while the incumbent has the burden of maintaining their legacy, and that is precisely where Pioneer find themselves, particularly with these units.
By any chance could you cover these linked with a Xone96 please? I am interested to know how many of the new features, such as stacked waveforms or touch que are tied to the DJM.
can we cdj-3000 remap midi with the "midi-learn" feature, for example hot cue buttons do it like a some pad mode in rekordbox?
Which usb flash drive are you using? Brand name, model, capacity?
Can someone tell me what's going on at 2:21, with that waveform crawling along like that?
Wowzas! Nice kit. Curious, do the stacked waveforms do the weird push & pull alignment thing like the RXs & XZ?
They don’t, they seem to be rendered in a different way.
@@Mojaxx ah nice.
Hello good afternoon!
Do you know if there will soon be a firmware update to connect the ddj xp2 to the cdj 3000 or 2000 without the need for a computer and thus be able to use its pads.
Thank you
This is Pioneer’s: ‘ Blackberry will always be industry standard cell phone’ year. Savour it.
When's the full review coming thru, Mo?
my first impressions are that its cluttered looks rushed and though getting rid of the cd slot is good and i like the screen there is still a static jog.After years of spinning jogs from Denon and a number of other spinners including the new Rane 12mk 2s i find this a bit of a let down.So too many buttons and a static jog means its a no from me but then i was always a bit old fashioned and the Rane 12mk 2s will be my final choice as i waited to see what pioneer would do and what they did was more of the same but too much of the same for me.A good quick review by the way.
I find a spinning platter to inherently be more engaging to watch from a spectator's vantage point. I have a pair of CDJ-2000 NEXUS players, and I kinda glad I stopped there. RANE 12 MKIIs for me all day long... Peace!
What about the Denon sc6000m?
@@Chuggnuts the ms are good too and cheaper
@@DanielleKingdjdinosaur I meant instead of the Ranes, personally I'm not fussed by motorized platters and will get the standard sc6000 soon (unless something better happens)
@@Chuggnuts and thats whats so great right now Thank god there is some real choice out there
Let’s get to the comparison we all are looking for!!! Death match between Pioneer DJ’s and Denon DJ’s flagship player!!!
Great stuff sir..
“Favorite static players on the market” I would imagine that leaves a lot of room open for Denon DJ’s SC6000M to be your favorite players in the market.
Im pretty sure he deliberately said "static platters" LOL
Right on nice video!
Can you rationally do CDJ3000 vs SC6000 side by side review, with this??
Only thing which is ahead of Denon is the stacked waveform - which is nice indeed. Maybe Denon could add this, but it depends on their internal architecture / how players communicate with each other. In all other aspects it looks like Denon is ahead of Pioneer. So I wonder what the Pioneer engineers did since the SC5000 came out?! Maybe they did the XDJ XZ. Then again, why they didn't took some aspects from the XZ towards the new CDJ? Eg. the big hot cue keys *below* the jog wheel? Even if they could add some aspects later in software (which in my experience is rather unlikely), the physical layout cannot be fixed later. So they have to come up (who would have thought it? :-) ) with a MK2 version shortly...
This looks so cool
We're very happy with our CDJ-2000 Nexus players. No need to go beyond that for the personal LAB...
*Ok, so either get 2 of this or an XDJ-XZ that does the exact same thing for half the price.*
*Good job, Pioneer.*
or a ddj1000 and a laptop.
This isn't aimed at your average home user though.
VictorKibalchich Oh, so that’s what we’re doing now? Wasn’t the Tour-series meant for venues as well? Then what was the regular Nxs2’s? Or the 2000 Nexus? Or the 2000’s? Or even the good ol 1000’s?
If Pioneers flagship stuff is meant only for venues then why do they even bother with stuff like the Tour-series which was marketed towards venues?
@@ReboyGTR because there are different levels of venues. AFAIK, the Tour series is aimed at touring (hence the name), kit that needs to be set up and packed down regularly for really big events. The nexus and now the CDJ 3000 are aimed at club installs. As you said originally, the XZ is more for home use (or smaller venues). I have an XZ for my soundsystem, specifically because guest DJs want CDJs but I can't afford them. Why are you getting upset about gear that's not aimed at you? It's weird.
Small nitpick, but they couldn’t improve the LED ring around the platter? Still just 4 small LED’s instead of a nice even light around the whole thing
Also was disappointed to not see EtherCON connector like on Tour1. Easily the most fragile part that breaks on older cdj models
Great review. Just got a pair, switching from Denon. Couldn’t be more happier; what a fantastic piece of equipment!
This looks good. About the wifi, I hope a DJ isn't showing up at a club or festival streaming their set from a streaming service.
😂 Denon is cheaper, has much better functions... Definitely buy Denon now 👍🏻
If you’re a bedroom DJ then they’re definitely the better choice, but as he mentioned in the vid- DJs aren’t the target market, it’s clubs and rental companies that will be buying these. Working DJs want to be able to walk up to the decks and know how to use them in seconds, you haven’t got time for a hundred new features when there’s a dance floor full of people waiting for the next track.
I did. Guess what? You can take an MP3 file you use on a Denon and also use it on a club CDJ. No biggie. A little jiggery pokery and you are done. Don’t tell PioneerDJ. Here’s the learning curve: browse load cue play hot cue jog loop. You’re ready to go.
@@BeardslapRadio Bro you don't have an excuse. Denon Dj is taking back their spot. #nocap
@@mrmyskins excuse for what? I don’t care about Denon or Pioneer, but having worked as a club manager and a DJ I know which one is going to appear in more DJ booths. I think it’s great that there’s competition in the market, Pioneer have had it too easy for too long, but this isn’t going to change the buying habits of companies that buy double digits of units at a time.
@@BeardslapRadio DO YOU KNOW DENON DJ USED TO BE INDUSTRY STANDARD?
Theres no point sticking to traditional tech, technology is advancing everyday, look at how much advanced our mobile phones are right now. Would you rather use a table phone?? #ThinkAboutIt
Denon prime!! Mejor que pioneer mil veces !! Gracias por el vídeo
Nice bro!!! 🔥
good review. Pioneer is doing the Madden/2k thing with this stuff. Be a good time for the competition to come out with stuff and give these overpriced media players real people pricing.
Good review, those players are awesome, they checked off 95 percent of my "new CDJ" wishlist. great job by them
Someone help me. Played since 1998 vinyl had cdjs since 2006. Just got rid of my 2000nx2 and bought the 3000.however iv noticed they drift like fek im constantly fighting with them and refuse to use sync. Surly this cant be right.
Best channel
they should call it xdj 2000nxs
You said with the new gigabyte port along with the V10 mixer these players can link up 6 of these and can they finally count past 4? We spent a lot of money when the V10 came out to find out it only had 1 Ethernet port and could not read up to 6 CDJ’s for back to back sets. Or even run four CDJ’s and DjS1000. So can and will these show player 5 and 6 when hooked up to the V10? Please let me know. I have some already on hold to pick up in the morning, but do not want to run into that problem again.
Star Lord have you seen my IG page? I have nice Cars already over 100k ones and with my void system costing me about a 100k not worried about it. Peep it if you want inside_the_mind_of_lokey. Shit my facade cost 10k. I worked very hard for decades to build what I have my setup right now is no joke. Check it out
@Star Lord Or go all in on the Tour 1!!
They Caged Non I play on all day all night it’s set up for for B2B sets I can reach over and and reach them all with one step, but it’s a lot of work. I run Vermona action filters so I can bring in certain things really low and nice., but it really is for b2b fun for me and my friends. Nothing wrong when flexing though. I had some videos up on my UA-cam took them down to rearrange the whole setup and get all my void setup in here. Should have some mixes back up soon. I set this up before the Covid except for the mixer for that Mid February. Never would of thought I would be locked in my house all this time. The positive part is Im never board with all that gear. You did me my setup up stairs also? That makes 8 CDJ’s 💪 & 🤡’n but seriously I worked very hard to get to this point. Stay positive my man. There is so much hate in this world. I’m older so to see this younger generation just type behind keyboards and knock things is strange and weak to me. Not saying you just have seen it going on way too much. Hopefully the world will realize that is not nice and change. Have a blessed day. LokEy
They Caged Non ice I still play on my 1210 Mk5’s. Funny because just today someone asked me be I would ever sell them. I laughed. I would sell all my pioneer gear before I ever sold my Technics. Never got into serato just spin old school Progressive house. I also haven’t tried the Denon’s. Just always had a plug at pioneer so I stayed with that.
Man at least your still working. Hopefully I’m a safe place. If there still exists one out there. I’ve been stuck in my place 1st because of my battle with Cancer then the lockdowns and with my health can’t go out. Sucks.
Solid review. Nice product. Definitely would have placed those Hot Cues on the bottom. 😳
I was worried about the placement of the hot cues, but now having used the 3k for a while, I really like the position of the buttons below the screen. Never had an issue accidentally touching the platter. Also, I like to place the palm of my hand below the platter, and that would not be possible if the cue buttons are placed on the bottom.
Mojaxx CDJ 3000 vs SC6000 ? what you like more ?
I think that the XDJ players (and controllers/standalones) are really where Pioneer is going to end up competing with Denon, because similar market, similar price range, etc. I don't see the CDJ adopting any of the features of the Prime gear until maybe the next iteration. But yeah I think you're going to see the Denon type innovations going into the XDJ players and controllers/standalones before you'll see them on the CDJs.
I’m sold
Is the smallest pitch step still 0.02?
Do Flac files work on this?
hi is it compatible with the ZDJ-XZ ?
No WiFi? Seems like a big miss now that everything is moving towards streaming.. Also weird that its still called the "Compact Disc Jockey 3000". But I still use vinyl so what do I know.
great video
i wish they would do a price drop on the 2000s cuz like i been saving up for them and now they not even the newest ones n
Nice upgrade
This & the V10 are definitely not my favourite Pioneer DJ products. Im still interested in getting their old 2000 Nexus & 900 Nexus range.
Do it thats what I have well worth it ingot 2 cdj 2000 nexus for 2500 and djm 900 srt off ebay for about 1200 u can find good deals on ebay
And I've been playing on them since July no problems love them
@Christopher Villafana yea im trying to save up to get them. My goal is to get 4xCDJ900NXS & 1xDJM900NXS
@@syazwanali7094 and can easily be done be done my friend dont stop saving
I was expecting the high price tag but so far they look a little underwhelming. Pretty sure what my next players will be now I've seen these
Does your next players start with a D, and end with ENON ? hahah
@@itsamedjmario Oh honey, Denon has more features unlike your little Pioneer. I bet you're the guy who argues that Pioneer is a club standard and that's why Pioneer is better in every way 😂.
@@rogerdy2647 that was sacasum, he wasn't knocking Denon!
I'd love to see someone really just hammer on that cue button. That's one thing that is always broken on CDJs at the club.
-no dual layer functionality
-no performance pads
-no internal track analysis
-no cross-platform support
-no inbuilt HD/SSD option
-no internal WiFi
-no loop encoder
-no multitouch touch screen
-no track buffering (just 4-beat emergency)
-no reserve power (power failure)
-small hot cues buttons located in horrible position
-only one USB port and it got downgraded to 1.0A
-no SDXC support (
I miss those days when there was no club standard for anything, maybe the SL-1200mk2s, but that was about it. Nowadays it is all bland and boring Pioneer DJ gear in the booth.
You’ve got to think who this is aimed at tho
@@louisllewellyn7948 CDJ3000 are aimed to suckers
I think people are confusing these Industry standard players to players you would buy to use in there bedrooms.. People who have DJ’d In clubs for years have used pioneer gear.. You would be mad to pay that price for these players for a bedroom.I think the subtle difference between this and the nxs2 will make playing in clubs more efficient and the sound quality will be greatly improved I’m sure.
Look forward to using them.
Well spoken, Pioneer marketing boy.
World is not just black and white, "club standard" and "bedroom".
Pioneer used to be in bedrooms, boardrooms ,clubs, bars, cafes,everywhere then they went a bit nuts and now its shrunk to clubs and festivals .Denon ,Rane,and a few others have got the rest.This player is cluttered and has in most important aspects not lead the market for quite some time.Denon and Rane have taken huge bites out of Pioneers market share.This reminds me of the days of I.B.M and the changes in computing that they were unable or unwilling to respond to .
TriStar
All I’m saying is practice at home on a cheaper controller or something else..
that’s what I have done and use these players in clubs .As a DJ for over 20 years I have always used Pioneer in clubs and have no real reason to look elsewhere,just my personal choice.
I have used other equipment but just find it is not for me..To be honest even looking at these players they look too complicated at the moment to use infront of a crowd.
@@D1CE579 except that there is a marked difference in feel and funtion in a bedroom controller and these things.In their earlier days you had more similarity between the cdjs in the bedroom and the ones in the dj booth and there was a lot more booth bedroom crossover.This the dj equivalent of I.B.M just before they got into serious trouble
Danielle King
Agreed.. I just can’t warrant paying £1500/£2000 for a player indoors, be it Denon,Pioneer, or anything else.You soon learn these players...that’s why subtle differences are great.To be honest
Half the stuff on these players i never use anyway.
Good review as always Mojax.
However, if Pioneer launches a flagship product and not put the end user ‘s experience and needs first, that says a lot about Pioneer doesn’t it?
Thats why you see in more and more dj booths DJ’s rock up and put their controllers on top of the CDJ’s cause the CDJ’s just doesn’t cut it and hence doesn’t deserve the term ‘industry standard’ in 2020. As industry in this case only refer to the rental and sound engineering industry. Not the DJ industry.
I'll give Pioneer props for at least trying. No it doesn't have to match Denon with every feature, that's fine even though It would get some of us off their back. As always, it's geared towards the heavy live environments and not the "entirely" the home user or gear snobs. But can they at least explain why they decided to name it a CDJ when there is no CD drive? Don't tell me there is going to be a $1K modular add-on.
Don’t give them any ideas.
I was waiting for something groundbreaking or at least something on par with Denon (featurewise). With all that new cpu power, cant analyse tracks on the fly, no multi touch gestures, no streaming. But Pioneer still want me to pay an arm and a leg....Might be the last straw for many long term Pioneer consumers.
Did anyone else noticed that most reviews mention how "it's not about fancy new features?" It almost seems like they're excusing Pioneer for the lack of. I love it how the reviews also mention DJ's are not their target audience, it's the rental houses. :/ Just admit, Pioneer could've done a lot better. I've been using CDJ's and Pioneer's equipment since the 90's, and TBH, this release seems lacking. I was expecting more. I just wish more venues & DJ's would be risk takers, get out of their comfort zone and give other brands a chance. Than perhaps, Pioneer would make us their "target audience."
Yes mate and, I've seen some reviewers get proper defensive in the comments when people are legitimately questioning some of the features. It's almost like pioneer pay them to give good reviews..... 😏
To be honest, I don't think 4 years is a long time coming when it comes to a CDJ upgrade. It's not that much different to the 2000NXS and at that price point I would have expected a lot more. Still a good review 👍🏼
Awesome as always Mojaxx!I have to say this is a disappointing product....Lazy engineering for this price.
yuuuuup!!
Congratulations Pioneer. Your buyers have officially became organ donors.
Probably i saw it on Moby's turntable 101 video :-)
Sticking to my 900's :)
Same I treated myself to cdj 900s 2nd hand few years ago there my babys ,always wanted cdj 2000 nexus but cant afford it I seen these and thought my 900s will be dated now and I'll need to upgrade ,but as u say I'm sticking with my 900s plus they have a cd drive so they are cdjs unlike these ,I have a feeling they will bring out the nexus for these with all the bells and whistles and the people who got these will be suicidal
With 2 denon medias players you can you can use 4 channels in the same time
If I was making pioneers I make the job well like the Technics 1200 and I will make the job will like a turntable and spread everything out and with a motor on it it'll be worth your DJ