Pioneer have neglected affordable full sized players. Still using my XDJ 1000 MK1’s from 2014 because there hasn’t been a good upgrade option. It seems they are pushing controllers more and more but that doesn’t work for everyone. Would like to see an XDJ 1000 MK3 which has modern features but with prices always increasing, I doubt it would be considered “affordable”
I love my XDJ-1000 MK2 especially paired with the XP1/XP2, but I’d love to see a MK3 player with a better screen and the addition of Hot Cue and Beat Jump buttons. I have a pair of 3000 on back order, but there are a lot of bars and small clubs that simply won’t stretch to 3000’s that I feel a more mid level player would be really suited to. Somewhere around £1200-1500 each.
On a marketing view , I think that pioneer wouldn’t bring out a cheaper price player I would love to , but I don’t think that this would happen . What the streaming consider : yes please! I’m using Beauport and beatsource link for2 years and I love it . Yes I have sometimes download issues ( 1/10 ) but for the rest,it works great . use it while we drive ( I play during the Rollerbike parade ). The one thing that I don’t like is that I always have to carry my laptop with me. I repeat I standing on a pick up truck playing while this one is driving through the streets. So I don’t think this is good ( all the vibration ) for my laptop. So yes I will love a solution where I wouldn’t need my laptop.
I'm one of the few people who chose to use the XDJ700s because they're just way more portable and fit into much smaller booths and for someone who loves 4 deck mixing booths are never big enough. I wish they'd do a mk2 to the XDJ700 but I would be surprised if that ends up happening
I'm a complete Denon fanboy with my sc5000ms and prime go, but finally got to use the 3000s on a gig and the feel on those is nothing short of amazing. Seen a lot more xdj xzs show up in the smaller bars though, I think those will be the dominant force considering their price point.
@@MrFullyCharged They will not do it because a 3000 is for professional dj’s and they prefer 3 or 4 separate decks instead of 2 decks with double layers.
@@RC75 Most “professional” Djs do not use 3 or 4 layers when mixing and the good ones are fully capable of hitting a button. The 3rd and 4th CDJ is usually on stage for backups, should either deck 1 or 2 fail. Find someone actually mixing four decks together live and we can find 100 others who never will… Pioneer just wanted to avoid being the best bc they are milking “the industry standard” thing. It’s like my V10… 99% of people who play on this mixer will never use all six channels, and most will only use 2 or 3.
I don't know how you can say that they have won this generation. Considering they came out after 2 iterations of the competition (Denons). They could of done a lot better with their tech. As far as I'm concerned the Denons still have the edge, but hey everyone has their opinion.
You’re forgetting that the few things denon has over the pioneer are still things the pioneer could be capable of with software updates, which are undoubtedly coming in the future, otherwise such a robust set of internals wouldn’t be necessary. Getting the software just right and maintaining the functionality and speed of the unit will be key to these functions not becoming a hassle, which I believe pioneer is capable of handling. The denons are a top tier unit, and none of this is to say anything other than such.
@@matthewjswider if that was so, don’t you think Pioneer would have done that already 2 years after release? I think most Pro dj’s don’t care about the things the Denon does over the cdj, thats why Pioneer doesn’t do it.
@@Funky1ism no, not really. I think with the pandemic, and the uncertainty of their chips continuing to be manufactured, and them either having to re design some internal parts for that or the logistics of setting up a new supply chain, the loss of revenue, I think 1000 different reasons could be why they haven’t released any of that stuff yet. And what would all of us be saying if we can barely get our hands on one yet they’re releasing updates like these? I know I would be saying “thanks for the updates nobodys using.” Because at the moment all I can say is “thanks for making this review, I’m sure tiesto and the rest of the festival Dj’s who actually touch these things will be giving a thumbs up and dropping an F in the chat for everyone else who will see these next century.” Matter of fact, I think pioneer, and serato, are both dropping the ball by not having more integration, and then again by their use of subscription services for software that used to come with gear, or for free. Example, buy a djms11, that’s a hardware unlocking device, go out to play at the club and they have a nxs setup, you’re fucked. If you get a piece of gear with a license it should work across the board. I have a very big issue with this situation and I’m done advertising for them. All pioneer DJ and serato logos on my equipment have been covered.
@@matthewjswider i hear you… Don’t get me wrong, i am with you, i think the cdj3000 is heavily overpriced, so much so, that its ridiculous to ask that price, while a Denon player that is just as good, if not better, is way cheaper. I would personally take the Denon, but a lot of Dj’s don’t care about the extra tech of functions the Denon have, thats why they rather stay with Pioneer, because its familliar and does what they need, instead of evolving.
I hate the way these have become unattainable luxury items to be lusted after on instagram (like a Rolex or Lamborghini) instead of bulletproof industrial workhorses (like technics 1210). Sign of the times, I guess.
"The full James hype" lmao. Great review as always Mojax. I've been using a pair of 3000s w the S11 for the past year and it's my go to kit now. I never liked cdjs but these have converted me.
That really is a killer combo. Pioneer DJ were very smart to make sure HID is better with these than on older players, it makes a big difference for those who prefer to use Serato.
Overpriced and underfeatured (as usual for Pioneer gear) was my impression at launch and despite some firmware upgrades this hasn't changed, unfortunately. I would take a pair of Denon DJ SC6000s anytime over these, no matter the price.
Same, I wished more venues and DJs would switch to Denon, its not even up for discussion that Denon is clearly better and has features that is just straight useful. Like streaming, for example. Pioneer is way too overpriced, even the 2000nxs2 is still way too expensive
I gotta be completely honest, I'm surprised Denon DJ dropped the ball with their "Change your ryder" marketing campaign. They had everything going for them considering they had superior hardware for YEARS before the 3000s even came out, and still NO ONE (at least from what I can tell in the states) uses them. I still have yet to see a single Denon player in a club, let alone a mixer. It's like that market completely ignored them and simply waited for the 3000s to come out. And when they were difficult af to find, they just waited for them to come into stock.
I think the Djay pro stuff is going to get bigger. with beatsource as the host for your sets , it is a wonderful option. Now with turntablist in mind with the new Vinyl and stuff. Great stuff for the future
Great video as always! Been using these since launch! Fantastic players, they're so good I bought a 3rd. Just waiting for the next 4 channel mixer release 🙌
Ive seen a few DJ's using the cloud feature with a cheap "Wireless Ethernet Bridge". Typically about £30 for a tplink one. And then paired to the hotspot on their phone. Not as nice as Denon but can be made to work cheaply enough with small kit that fits in your backback. Im a Denon guy myself. While i will use a CDJ if thats all there is, my preference is to use DenonDJ. The feature set is just way ahead which enables me to deliver more in the style that i play.
no one is going out of their way buying these. NO one i know. Price will always be an issue if you are a professional DJ. that is why, even if Denon sc6000/M isn't called a "club standard", it still is the best option. and if Pioneer isnt doing something about it, They could go the Nokia way.
Pioneer is apple in the dj industry. Lot of hate from the other side, “overpriced” “lacking features”… but in the end they are just ruleing the industry
@@benceujvari960 Justin Bieber's sales are probably more than your favorite artist's albums combined, however that doesn't mean it's better. I'll look out for myself and could care less about the "industry" or "club standard". Serato and Pioneer have been stagnant for too long sitting on their past user base while the rest of the competition has actually been innovating and pushing the hardware further into the future (i.e. capacitive touch screens, USB 3.0 ports, ethernet LAN capabilities, controllers WITHOUT needing a PC, dual layer capabilities, on board file/song analyzing WITHOUT a PC, WIFI streaming, just to name a few). Bottom line is that it isn't farfetched to call them overpriced and say that they are lacking features because they actually fulfill those statements 100%.
As usual, you make an excellent point… there needs to be a new XDJ-1000mk3 or what have you. You’re a man of the people Mojaxx. Even a Pioneer equivalent of the Denon LC-6000 expansion controller would be very welcome.
I like returning to these reviews after the fact to see how they hold up. Returning to this one in December 2023, after most of us have been outside and back in clubs and at festivals for at least 1 year. Firstly, this is still a great overall review of the unit. But the question still remains: how many people who are in the market for DJ-oriented, turntable replacement media players play in clubs enough to warrant the inexcusably massive price delta between the Pioneer CDJ 3000 and the Denon SC6000? Even allowing for the unusual difficulty of actually buying an SC6000 in the USA right now, it seems all the arguments about the CDJ hinge mostly on “club standard.” We’re back outside for a year now: How many of us are playing in clubs?
1000% agree that pioneer need some affordable standalone players. Most people I meet getting into DJing are going for Serato because the pioneer ecosystem is too expensive. That or they're buying vinyl and turntables. The price of 2 CDJs, not even with a mixer will get you two turntables, a nice little 2 channel mixer and a ton of vinyl. Pioneer is being abandoned.
The fact that he wouldn't even say the word Denon or mention the SC6000 in this review is proof enough Clearly been paid off and told not to mention Denon, or he'd have given a proper objective review and compared them to the competition.
@@alexsedman1 I disagree. Mojaxx has never been one to be a whore for the industry. Look back at his livestreams. He uses both Denon and Pioneer kit. I think that he has given us his honest take on each hardware manufacturer's kit for this generation. I'm sorry he didn't emphatically endorse what you Denon fanboys wanted to hear. But, judging by the parties/festivals I've seen over the past couple years, I'd say that Denon haven't convinced peeps, other than the paid endorsements, to "change their rider", or "embrace the future" quite yet.
Don't get me wrong, I do love the video and all your videos!! But it's time for BETTER MORE AFFORDABLE products, to be the new club standard!!! For example The older Denon sc5000 (which you can buy it used around for $1000) was released in january 2017 and is over lapping this 2020 hunk of junk $2500 CDJ. O! and the Wifi is already thing that comes with SC series, without plugging it in like a Compaq laptop from 2006!!
their standalone lineup is a mess - playing out means needing to know the quirks of all the different players you might end up with. If they're smart they'll figure out a cohesive strategy based on the 3000 and start bringing out revamped lower-priced models. I'm not optimistic, though: I think doing this correctly means leaving some old workflows behind and I'm not sure pioneer has the stomach for that. also as a denon fanboy the 3000s are definitely the best CDJs I've played on. The jog, the hardware 4/8 loop buttons and the big touch screen make it pretty dang good
They are simply WAAAY to expensive for what they offer. BUT The Real Problem are the DJs who are to stubborn to go for Denon and change the Clubpicture and therefore force Pioneer to innovate again and offer decent Hardware for decent Prices.
Funny enough I just used this for the 1st time I like it but I find the nxs2 mixer a lil confusing as I was dropped in on the fly at the club. But over its great. But I used it in serato. The DJ switch over is clunky the way the club set it up. Maybe I’m missing something. But overall great. Denon is killer though!
I had a chance to use these side-by-side next to my own SC6000's. I think in the mid-size party / DJ enthousaist range these haven't won the generation at all... The "Competition" (Just say the word "Dennon" already) actually gives pioneer a run for their money : P
My only complain about the 3000’s I recently use them at a beach venue that I worked at and the wear and tear on the hot cue buttons is bad! The 1st and 2nd buttons were completely gone and wouldn’t even work.. guess they were abused before I got to them.. 🤷🏻♂️
Gotta remember that these were new just as the pandemic started so its still a fresh use market only 1 season in really as the new club standard so in a year or so this might be different
I don't own either but i would still prefer to have the Denon SC6000M even if they were the same price. Those spinnin platters and all the extra tech for me hands down and they are way cheaper to boot.
Mojaxx I have full respect on your reviews hence, my subscription to your channel. but on this segment I think its your opinion on weak facts. You sounded like a product endorser than a reviewer by parroting Pioneer’s “industry standard” card where you know there is a product out there who beats the CDJ3000 in almost all aspects. What baffles me is you didn’t or can’t even mention the competition’s name, it’s a red flag for a paid review. I have no brand loyalty, I can afford the best gear to buy for my personal use but I am very wary on how I spend my hard earned money by researching, watching unbiased reviewers and comparing products and buyer’s feedbacks as well. With that said, I somewhat disagree on your opinion on this segment.
Mojaxx you should do an educative episode talking about Digital summing e digital quantisation vs Analog summing, how we humans hear the sound ( analog ), because the majority of DJs are deeply ignorant on the metter even some big cats on the industry don't have the minimal basics, why do this, because i think that might be very helpful for people to make more wise and better quality choices spending less money instead of getting screwed by the marketing of big corporations. CDJs are just good souncards with jog-wheel and buttons same is the mixer (the summing of the tracks happen in digital domain 0s & 1s and is digitally quantised than converted which artificial summing as it is mathematically quantised), by simply using traktor, serato etc + a sound card like RME, Antelope and a quality Analog mixer the result would be much cheaper and of a higher quality in terms of sound perceived by the audience and no need to pull out 10000$ every 4 years. CDj has more the purpose to make DJs look that they are doing something where in reality they don't do much creatively speaking . People get partisanship about WAV or LP which are both great and there is not such big difference between but the real huge difference is the digital summing (artificial quantisation) vs analog summing (natural summing). Sound is more HIFI and better for human ear if mixing 2 digital files in an analog mixer than mixing 2 LP in a digital mixer.
Great long term review of this product.👍 Pioneer wins! in being the good looking dj jog wheels so far, but they really should lower the 8 cue pads under the jog wheel & have them color coded like their other products. Maybe shorten the screen to be more rectangular and lower the price a bit. Most "working djs" I've encountered will avoid using these at clubs (unless forced by the venue) because of the cue pads not being easily accessible and not being color coded. Also noticed, djs that play music with the same BPM all night, usually adore these units.
@@djadriankay you're right, but barely visible compared to their other products. This is why i put "color coded like their OTHER products". To clarify: Like the clear-ish pads that are on their top battle mixers or top controllers Pioneer makes. Big reason why, because most club & vip event djs usually play in low light conditions. Thanks for commenting.
@@mikebeats7448 Ah OK, I get what what you mean. To be fair I have had them now for 6 months and I regularly play an outdoor terrace with zero lighting in the DJ box and I had no issues. The fact they don't work as sample pads.... that i will complain about lol
@Mike Beats, After using them for awhile, my first concern about the placement of the 8 cues pads is gone. I also own a SC6000M and I don’t feel it any better below the jog on the Denon, than under the screen on the 3000. I’ve never hit any button by mistake on the 3000, while playing with the cues. I do prefer the hard touch of the 3000, than the soft touch that I have on my 6000, S11 or Rane One. They are bright enough in dark or sunny environment (and I have bad eyes). Talking about brightness, that’s a big problem on the SC6000, as the buttons are not bright enough. The cues are color coded. What I prefer on the 3000 over the 6000, is the unique 8 cues line, mixing hot cues and loops. Hot cues are in colors (or not, depending on the preferences) and loops are in orange. I like the fact that I can do 2 hot cues / 1 loop / 3 hot cues / 2 loops (just an example). Instead of having 8 hot cues on a layer and 8 loops on a second layer on the 6000, such as the controllers does. It’s all a matter of preference (and budget). Like 99% of people, I feel that Pioneer is selling the 3000 for way too high. I’ve got my first one in Dec 2020 for 2290 euros and the second one for 2600 euros… Denon has also raised up their prices at 1800 euros for the SC6000 and 2000 euros for the SC6000M.
Funny,.. If you understand Samba and basic networking, you can access your rekordbox collection on any computer. One USB connection to a CDJ 900NXS/2000NXS/2000NXS2/3000/XDJ(700/RX/RX2/1000/1000mk2/etc) you have a fully analyzed song that is fully about to be played remotely. Pioneer won't admit it, but if you want to take the time. That monthly subscription is nothing more than an overpriced service fee that really does not need a service key. My iPhone, MacBook, and Windows PC can all access my Rekordbox Collection that is ready to go anywhere without needing a key.
I'm sorry 😐 pioneer DJ is not the same company 😕 as they use to be. Underperforming underwhelming while overcharging for all their latest products and now alpha theta what the hell😂
Yes! I owned NXS2s. Switched them out for SC6000s. After 1.5 years, went back to Pioneer w' the 3000s. The difference between the NXS2s and the 3000s are stark!! Yes, I noticed almost immediately that my Lossless files, as well as my few 320CBR tracks were immediately better sounding on the 3000s vs. my NXS2s and the SC6000s. DVS doesn't apply to me, so the standalone hardware's limitations, by comparison, don't apply to me at the moment. Denon is gaining ground, but the 3000s are the most complete decks that Pioneer have ever released. The differences are purely proprietary. For the average user, the 3000 is superb! But, as the tech evolves, and the up and coming generation begins to demand more, Denon will more than likely come up ahead. Pioneer don't appear to be willing to move beyond what the Pros demand. Not even taking into account that the next generation of pros will demand more. Like I said in a recent Reddit convo.....standalone hardware won't peak until' they can match, feature for feature, what DVS software can achieve. Pioneer clearly aren't on that path. Denon are, however!!!
No onliline streaming services? Can't analyse on the fly? Not a duel layer player? About £800 quid more expensive? I mean I've made a bit of arse of it buying sc6000, s
Thank god I bought the full James Hype and a V10 just after launch. Bars in the north where I live are strictly bring your own kit, not a chance they even bought NXS2. Those all in one controllers I really struggle to play on but sadly i’m seeing more and more booths physically sized for them with bar owners saying “Well thats what DJ’s use isn’t it?” NO!!!! My dislike is the cramming of things onto screens and no thought for people with accessibility issues. I’ve done gigs with controllers and every time i’ve caught the pads while leaning over to get to see the screen. Of course, some would say us less genetically perfect people should not be out DJ’ing.
There is absoloutly no reasonable point why they won. They just won, because it's Pioneer and they're clubstandard. That's like saying "the iPhone is the best smartphone, because it's an iPhone" - that's just plain dumb. They're underpowered, way overpriced, have a dramatic lack of features and the compatition is way stronger. That's not a long term review and comparision, it's a statemant of a fanboy. But hey: That's what the DJ scene wants oviously. Pioneer because it's Pioneer, no new stuff to get used to, and equipment that's more expansive than most peoples cars. Dumbest scene ever...🤦♂
Donde esta el Stock de PIONEER !!!!!!, no se puede vender un producto que no existe en el mercado. Vergonzoso !!!!!!!!, que manden a casa al departamento de Marketing y lo inviertan en fabricar producto.
In Mojaxx we TRUST! ! ! The only English accent DJ I can stand lol . . . No offense please, but let's be honest, I hate watching videos from people with an accent
Bro, I have vinyl. I have a Condesa mixer. That 'ish is niche. I love it, but.... Anyway, CDJs (and for some, SC6Ks) are the new standard. Get over it. I've NEVER touched the "sync" button on either the CDJs or SC6Ks. Seriously, your argument is soooooo TIRED!! If that's all you've got, perhaps you need to hang it up.
@@Mojaxx I'd be interested for you to do a run down of what you think the Denons do better and what they don't, could be a separate video if you want to avoid going too off topic on a review video. I have strong opinions since I own both but would also love to hear your take.
I really like my XDJ 1000 MK2s; would be nice if they could be used with Serato DJ in HID but it forced me into the Rekordbox Ecosystem and now...I think that was the right move for me. Still glad I got my kit vs. a DDJ-1000 which was the other option.
As a long time Traktor user (Since the 2000s), I had bought the MK1 XDJ-1000s for exactly the purpose the CDJ-3000 is made for.. However at the time I never loved the sound quality on them.. I ended up using them in HID mode with a Xone PX5 mixer... I sold my XDJ-1000s to get the first Denon Prime SC5000+X1800 kit because it promised to be the "Traktor in a box" solution allowing me to leave the laptop behind.. Fast forward to 4 years later and I still have and love the Denon Kit (It truly was future proofed). I use them for mobile DJ style events (wedding and corporate etc)... Where that leaves me today on the topic of Pioneer CDJ3000, they look great. I'm sure they sound excellent and are a pleasure to play on.. But as a home/end user it isn't something I would see myself buying. I am not tied down to any particular platform (even though I still create my playlists in Rekordbox and export them to other software).. I do understand however that some people get comfortable with a particular brand experience and will never change (like iPhone owners for example).. And as such, if the majority of DJs are already more comfortable on Pioneer Rekordbox / Hardware.. I don't see the "competition" ever being able to sway those users...
@@ChrisBlade. I won't lie, I REALLY liked the PX5. It was still an analog mixer that sounded great when summing audio sources (layering extra loops on top of tracks etc...). I have since picked up a Xone 96 as well.. That being said, the X1800 sounds great as well. Especially when using the onboard soundcard (with Serato or Traktor for example). I appreciate both mixers for different reasons.. in the same way we can appreciate cars for different reasons. These days, I mostly use the X1800 Mixer with the SC5000 decks. If you are looking to buy one over the other, I'd suggest not leaving it exclusively up to the sound quality alone.. I'd also consider how and where you want to use each mixer.. (with the onboard soundcard, or external decks etc).
@@JamesPiquette thanks for the reply, I currently have the SC6000’s with the X1850 mixer, I’m very happy with it and it’s just for my home set up, I do live streaming and a few parties etc, but the other week I took my Denon players down to my friends for a session, hooked them up to his Xone 96, he has the same speakers as me too, and I was blown away with the sound quality, I’ve come home and the difference is crazy, which is why I’m considering the PX5, as I would still like to have the effects as an option on the mixer
@@ChrisBlade. Try (before buying) to listen to one in a shop. I'm confident you will like the PX5. I wouldn't get rid of the X1850 as it has some advantages with your SC6000s (like SoundSwitch / Engine lighting integration, or on air mode).. The PX5 also isn't as expensive as the Xone 96. It's a very nice option that will have that sound character you are looking for with analog audio summing on A&H mixers.
I own both sc6000 and cdj3000 and they are both great but honestly with better feeling and flow for me personally is more of denon and exporting music with engine prime is so much easier than rekordbox...denon is so underrated its changing the game so much
Denon might not be the "King of the Andals & Protector of the Industry Standard" but I'll be damned if it isn't The King of The North...The People's Champ and Mojaxx ain't fooling nobody. We know what his media player of preference is. He may not be a fanboy but I know he pledges allegiance to the hotness & it doesn't get any hotter than the SC6KM. Look at his face at the end. It pains him to say that the CDJ 3K is King.
I own the denon’s and love them. The only thing I think Pioneer wins on, excluding familiarity, is aesthetic/design. They look cooler, although more cluttered. No hate to them, I’d own both if I could.
I love my denon sc6000’s and have a pair of cdj3000’s on order hope they come in soon so I will have the best of both world 😊 my ddj 1000 doesn’t quite cut it compared to stand alone players I feel the jogs are better with pioneer. I can not compare the 3000’s as I haven’t played with the 3000’s yet
"Flagship", "club standard", and other fancy words are pure propaganda. The price for each is just ridiculous for what they actually offer. EVERYONE should buy Teslas because they are the car standard 😂😂😂
Denon SC6000’s gobble these any day and the price point on the 3000’s is double. Unfortunately, everyone has bought into the eco system and the hype after the mark 1’s. Once there is bigger uptake by the main stage dj’s, the. SC6000’s will be more common place.
For me the Denon SC6000Ms blows them 3000 players out the water. I played on both systems and you get way more bang for your buck with the SC6000MS. Just my personal opinion.
HA HA HA :) If a Pioneer merely relies on his dominant position as a standard, he will quickly lose it - the line between love and hate is very shallow, and the rule literally holds true everywhere. The world is moving forward and the Pioneer seems to have stopped in place. Big kudos to the engineers from DENON DJ, they did a really good job.
How can something that isn't even accessible be "King"? Rental houses for big festivals can't even fulfill Pioneer riders. When big name DJs are playing festivals like Tomorrowland on CDJ 2000 NXS2 in 2022, how can 3000 be King? Yet random blokes have 6 of them & a V10 in their bedroom.
underwhelming and overpriced for a struggling market...they pivot the sale marketing strategy focus on clubs but even those can barely afford them. The marketing is laughable because it is easier for a DJ to use the equipment if they can afford it and get some milage at home with them. I have used them and are nothing spectacular, and feel quite unpolished. They are the king because of the monopoly Pioneer has but not because of the quality of the product.
I had 12 on order for months and just days ago guitar center said they didn’t get their full shipment of stock and they’ve been holding 27k of my cash. Do anything you can to avoid that turd of a company.
#DjcityTV Since Tracktor Released Ver 3.6 & its Been 4 Years Can You Do A Update, in Depth Review on both the Controller /Hardware & Software as of 2022
That's still not a good conclusion at all. Why? Because the argument is pretty dumb. They better, because they sold better? That's not the point. It's not the better device because it get's sold better. The real answer must and can only be: No, the CDJs aren't that good anymore. And no, they're not ahead anymore. Competion is extremly strong. And from a technology point of view, they're far behind. So far behind, that a nearly six year old device beats it. Sorry, but that's just a hype - not more. Pioneer gets bought, because it's known. I'm not a fanboy at all and have a Pioneer set at home (2x 2000NXS), but I'm a DJ for 15 years now and Pioneer was king but isn't anymore.
YESSS!!!! i've waited for this video for so long! i thought this would be the first video of "beatsource tech" but i'm so happy it's finally here!!! i'll enjoy every second of this!
Hey Mojax, love the channel - long time follower. However, I am very surprised that more noise hasn't been made about how the new APU handles interpolation of tracks, specifically with Master Tempo and the "Key Sync" enabled. The new processing power has SIGNIFICANTLY improved the implementation of the MT algorithm - DJ Ravine's initial review did a small side by side comparison with the NXS2 and it's like night and day. And the Key Sync feature is just not spoken about enough. AFAIK Digital DJ Tips are the only ones to correctly identify just how elegant the system works when mixing harmonically. These are capable of extreme manipulation of the source content with incredible results. I would love to see an in depth feature covering these aspects of the players! Obviously all of the other improvements are nothing to be snuffed at - but I really feel like this is what it's worth paying the big bucks for!
Had to return one with a busted jog wheel and went back to my denons. Still have a newish single cdj3000 sitting in the closet, just can’t justify the cost of buying a second player right now. Otherwise I love the 3000’s. You are 100% on the nose about needing an updated xdj1000.
The SC6000 remains my king. Fck that ‚club standard‘ nonsense. I am the DJ to decide on what devices I play, not vice versa. The Pioneers offer far less features while being more expensive. Big no-go.
I sold up my pioneer gear a few years back and fully got into the denon SC players with a Xone 96. I still play a lot gigs now with the CDJ2000 NXS2 and they feel really old and dated. When I do get the chance to play on the CDJ 3000 I love them. They are so nice to use and feel like a massive upgrade from the 2000. They do lack some of the storage and WIFI streaming features of the denon players but make up for it with HID support for most DJ software. I have been a traktor user for 20 years and was waiting for HID support, it never happened so I sold my SC players and went back to a DVS setup. I would like to see pioneer update the CDJ 900NXS and bring out a more affordable players or even bring out a new player with a spinning plater like the rev7 but bigger. I have to agree with you though even though Denon have given it a good go Pioneer are still very much on top when it comes to club setups the CDJ3000 is still the one to have.
It's rarely mentioned, but the lack of Traktor support with the Denon gear is actually quite a big miss when it comes to club adoption. In the open-format world we sometimes forget how many house & techno DJs still use Traktor.
@@Mojaxx before in-music took over Denon DJ there was a lot of TSI files for Denon gear. I just wonder if the lack of support for the SC players is down to NI or Denon. I would really like to see the LC6000 mapped for Traktor and Rekordbox I would go out and purchase a pair straight away if they were compatible with more DJ software.
Excellent video as always. This guy is kind of a guide or a good reference when it comes to dj equipment or specifications. I still using xdj 1000 mk2 since released day, I haven't upgraded since I don't see a price/ value/ features that will make sense to me for the music I play. My current setup get the job very well done and still top notch... no competition at all ....remember that any machine will be as good as the one operating the machine... and yes.. they will come up with the replacement of the xdj1000 mk2
Not always though. Denon reported that 31 DJ's this year on the 3 week Tomorrowland used DenonDJ SC's. So popular that the main stage had the 2 setups side by side on sliding desks that could be moved into position in just seconds as each DJ came on and off stage.
@@dj_paultuk7052 So i just looked up, around 400 dj’s were on tomorrowland, so 31 is not that impressive, and i also opend some videos from tomorrowland, and bigger names still used pioneer. Soo….
@@djstuc It’s not likeing or dislikeing, the denons copied the whole formfactor of the cdj/djm, so the paid dj’s can play on them, and that’s all, i watched some denonback luke set, and he never used any of the “feaures” of the players
The lack streaming service ability is the reason why I didn't CDJ 3000s but Denons. Also the Name CDJ turns me off, they should be called the XDJ 3000s.
I hoped to hear something about the not so good reliability rumors. You mention the 4 deck james hype setup but hype actually switched back to nxs2 because of reliability.
the notion that these 10:54 CDJ3000's aren't supposed to be bought by DJ's, but still expecting DJ's to be comfortable performing on them when they show up to play a set is like telling someone they're gonna use a Custom Shop Strat or Les Paul, but they can't practice on that same guitar at home. that type of formula makes the first portion of your set awkward while you're feeling your way around. just buy the Denons and bring them with you to your show
It seems like it’s only the club standard because clubs are buying it, not because DJs want it. I own a pair of SC6000s and they are nothing short incredible, better than pioneer, and every DJ whose played on my gear agrees.
I fully second that. Still happy with my DENON sc6000m’s after almost 2 years. Pioneer Dj’s jaws drop when I show them what I can do with them that the industry standard can’t do. Pioneer dont make flagship players for DJ’s anymore. They make it for club owners and event companies. They can go on like that for another 5 years and they’ll see what their real end users (dj’s) end up doing.
The dj’s write a rider, and they request the gear they want to use… so the local club can have the denons, but if a big name comes they need to rent the club standart.
‘Not meant to be bought by DJs’… isn’t this a problem worth noting? Are DJs not allowed to want to practice with the same gear they preform with? This ridiculous statement could only have been made by a DJ WITH a pair of 3000s. 🤦
where pioneer are losing out is rekordbox lighting. They have discontinued the RB-DMX1, the only thing you can buy with rekordbox lighting now is the FLX10, they have abandoned the CDJ3000 pro dj link lighting, the DJM A9 lighting modes, as there is nothing to buy now to support, its been over 12 months the RB-DMX1 really hasnt been available freely! Pioneer has dropped the ball, if they have give up to soundswitch , then they should let soundswittch intergrate to rekordbox, or just allow any USB dongle to work. I pay a subscription already for rekordbox ... no idea why rekordbox lock you down to a proprietary dongle too...
I would really love streaming in the 3000s. I have a pair and love them, but that feature would be great to just test out tunes before I bought them. I never thought I needed it but I also love the cue link feature, but clubs never seem to get it working despite my technical rider telling them how to set it up 🤣 I’d never used beat jump until I got 3000s and now I use it loads. Cue link and beat jump are both available in the 2000s though I think. Oh and the 3000 screen is SO nice.
@@Mojaxx these will even make me ditch the S9/S11 one day. so crazy how they managed to get all important functions on the top layer of a single unit. and the way the platter sounds while scratching is insanely accurate. btw: I love that you put your 7 inch adapter image on the virtual deck display on the 3000s 😂 looks so cool 👍🏻
It’s a shame it’s still selling so well, as the Denon is much better. But people like familiarity, that’s the only reason they sell as they are not the best, and they are expensive (overpriced)
there is no difference between the cdj 3000 and any dj controller. didnt like them from day one with a lot of cons. no scrolling by touch - no internal anylize for songs - no streaming - no extra function on the hotcue pads - over prices compared to competitors. ill stick with the all in one opus quad and denons
@@djstuc your right they do. But they don’t revolutionise anything. They watch others and then implement their own version in a more polished and better way. They focus on things working reliably before they go for anything extreme. Folding phones is a good example of this
@@djstuc its true when steve jobs was around they used to be more original in innovation but thats not the case in recent years. Look at what other laptop makers and phone makers are doing and its hard to press a case for apple being at the forefront anymore., They are more for consolidation now. nothing wrong with that though. Innovation for the sake of innovation is not always needed.
@@djstuc If you do your research you'll know that apple outsources its chip production and that the M1 processors are all based on ARM technology (not apple). They have design input but its mainly on how they integrate into the apple ecosystem. Hence the amazing performance with mainly apple software. It also a political gain as they dont need to rely on intel anymore. Its smart business sense rather than innovation. But to be fair we are moving away from my original point. Pioneer DJ did innovate in their early days with the CDJ and some of their mixers which are now industry standard. They Havent done much since because they dont need to! The CDJ 3000 is a good example of this. It does the job with just enough improvments over the previosu generation.There are similarities between Pioneer DJ and Apple in my opinion but of course we can agree to disagree.
@@djstuc ha ha! Maybe therye is some stretching going on on both sides! no hard feelings. it is possible for people to have different opinions. have a great day
@@djstuc Thats interesting. thanks for sharing your setup. I love DVS and i run my 1200s through a rane 70 at the present (prior to this i had a S9!). I have a pioneer DDJJ rev7 as my secondary/ mobile setup. Believe it or not Im a complete apple fan and have an imac, macbook pro, iphone, applewatch, ipad, apple tv.....completely sucked into the ecosystem! I have one gaming PC which I use for certain programs including streaming. Maybe my comparison is a little simplistic but it occurred to me that both apple and pioneer had innovated more in their past and now maybe resting on their laurels. We techies are always hoping for more innovation and changes but the majority of people dont care! They will still install pioneer CDJs in their clubs because the standard is set and hard to change.I will still get the latest apple tech when it comes out but mainly because i know it will "just work". I miss watching apple keynotes and thinking "wow! thats amazing!" Regarding the 1200s.... they are an icon in the DJ community for sure and I love them. I do think CDJs have their place in history though as jobbing Dhs converted to digital mediums. Hence Id still give some props to Pioneer. I do remember the previosu standard- the Denon rack mount CD players which every club had prior to the table top design of the pioneers. At the time i bought the CDJ 500 and was blown away. But yes its not the same impact that the 1200s had on the birth of DJ culture.
Still waiting to try the 3000's, so glad you've made this vid Mojaxx! Even if I had the money it's gonna be a while with the global chip issues to purchase, but always appreciate your solid & honest views whenever a new video is uploaded. I hope Pioneer take note for the need of a cheaper media player so we can leave laptops out of the booth forever!
That reworked jog wheel didn't age well. Its my main gripe about 3k's. It feels great, but don't leave it in direct sunlight for more then 15 min, or you may find yourself replacing the outer ring and sheet switch under it at a $150+ in parts alone (that wont likely be in stock STILL at the end of 2024!) Ask me how I know, and my other repair clients know. I replaced 6 just last summer alone, and I live in a small to med size city. The outer ring is made of WAY thinner/softer plastic, and they decided it would be a good idea to attach the sheet switch to it that cant be removed without a new replacement. ($65+ ea) Also the convoluted jog tension system never seems to work well, and becomes less functional as they age. They should have just kept the previous design. ie from the XZ / NXS2. They had it right the first time imho
Pioneer have neglected affordable full sized players. Still using my XDJ 1000 MK1’s from 2014 because there hasn’t been a good upgrade option. It seems they are pushing controllers more and more but that doesn’t work for everyone. Would like to see an XDJ 1000 MK3 which has modern features but with prices always increasing, I doubt it would be considered “affordable”
I love my XDJ-1000 MK2 especially paired with the XP1/XP2, but I’d love to see a MK3 player with a better screen and the addition of Hot Cue and Beat Jump buttons.
I have a pair of 3000 on back order, but there are a lot of bars and small clubs that simply won’t stretch to 3000’s that I feel a more mid level player would be really suited to.
Somewhere around £1200-1500 each.
On a marketing view , I think that pioneer wouldn’t bring out a cheaper price player
I would love to , but I don’t think that this would happen .
What the streaming consider : yes please!
I’m using Beauport and beatsource link for2 years and I love it . Yes I have sometimes download issues ( 1/10 ) but for the rest,it works great .
use it while we drive ( I play during the Rollerbike parade ).
The one thing that I don’t like is that I always have to carry my laptop with me.
I repeat I standing on a pick up truck playing while this one is driving through the streets.
So I don’t think this is good ( all the vibration ) for my laptop.
So yes I will love a solution where I wouldn’t need my laptop.
Too bad. They a boring to me. Guess I have to keep on lugging my denon equipment to clubs. But I do it gladly.
Do the mk2’s offer Hid mode in Sdjpro?
I'm one of the few people who chose to use the XDJ700s because they're just way more portable and fit into much smaller booths and for someone who loves 4 deck mixing booths are never big enough. I wish they'd do a mk2 to the XDJ700 but I would be surprised if that ends up happening
I'm a complete Denon fanboy with my sc5000ms and prime go, but finally got to use the 3000s on a gig and the feel on those is nothing short of amazing. Seen a lot more xdj xzs show up in the smaller bars though, I think those will be the dominant force considering their price point.
Fully agree
They need to go dual layer. It’s 2022.
@@MrFullyCharged They will not do it because a 3000 is for professional dj’s and they prefer 3 or 4 separate decks instead of 2 decks with double layers.
@@RC75 Most “professional” Djs do not use 3 or 4 layers when mixing and the good ones are fully capable of hitting a button. The 3rd and 4th CDJ is usually on stage for backups, should either deck 1 or 2 fail. Find someone actually mixing four decks together live and we can find 100 others who never will… Pioneer just wanted to avoid being the best bc they are milking “the industry standard” thing. It’s like my V10… 99% of people who play on this mixer will never use all six channels, and most will only use 2 or 3.
@@MrFullyCharged How much channels do you use?
I don't know how you can say that they have won this generation. Considering they came out after 2 iterations of the competition (Denons). They could of done a lot better with their tech. As far as I'm concerned the Denons still have the edge, but hey everyone has their opinion.
You’re forgetting that the few things denon has over the pioneer are still things the pioneer could be capable of with software updates, which are undoubtedly coming in the future, otherwise such a robust set of internals wouldn’t be necessary. Getting the software just right and maintaining the functionality and speed of the unit will be key to these functions not becoming a hassle, which I believe pioneer is capable of handling. The denons are a top tier unit, and none of this is to say anything other than such.
I think the winning part is what you see in clubs when you show up... Mostly that seems to be pioneer...
@@matthewjswider if that was so, don’t you think Pioneer would have done that already 2 years after release?
I think most Pro dj’s don’t care about the things the Denon does over the cdj, thats why Pioneer doesn’t do it.
@@Funky1ism no, not really. I think with the pandemic, and the uncertainty of their chips continuing to be manufactured, and them either having to re design some internal parts for that or the logistics of setting up a new supply chain, the loss of revenue, I think 1000 different reasons could be why they haven’t released any of that stuff yet. And what would all of us be saying if we can barely get our hands on one yet they’re releasing updates like these? I know I would be saying “thanks for the updates nobodys using.” Because at the moment all I can say is “thanks for making this review, I’m sure tiesto and the rest of the festival Dj’s who actually touch these things will be giving a thumbs up and dropping an F in the chat for everyone else who will see these next century.” Matter of fact, I think pioneer, and serato, are both dropping the ball by not having more integration, and then again by their use of subscription services for software that used to come with gear, or for free. Example, buy a djms11, that’s a hardware unlocking device, go out to play at the club and they have a nxs setup, you’re fucked. If you get a piece of gear with a license it should work across the board. I have a very big issue with this situation and I’m done advertising for them. All pioneer DJ and serato logos on my equipment have been covered.
@@matthewjswider i hear you…
Don’t get me wrong, i am with you, i think the cdj3000 is heavily overpriced, so much so, that its ridiculous to ask that price, while a Denon player that is just as good, if not better, is way cheaper.
I would personally take the Denon, but a lot of Dj’s don’t care about the extra tech of functions the Denon have, thats why they rather stay with Pioneer, because its familliar and does what they need, instead of evolving.
I hate the way these have become unattainable luxury items to be lusted after on instagram (like a Rolex or Lamborghini) instead of bulletproof industrial workhorses (like technics 1210). Sign of the times, I guess.
"The full James hype" lmao. Great review as always Mojax. I've been using a pair of 3000s w the S11 for the past year and it's my go to kit now. I never liked cdjs but these have converted me.
That really is a killer combo. Pioneer DJ were very smart to make sure HID is better with these than on older players, it makes a big difference for those who prefer to use Serato.
Overpriced and underfeatured (as usual for Pioneer gear) was my impression at launch and despite some firmware upgrades this hasn't changed, unfortunately. I would take a pair of Denon DJ SC6000s anytime over these, no matter the price.
Same, I wished more venues and DJs would switch to Denon, its not even up for discussion that Denon is clearly better and has features that is just straight useful. Like streaming, for example. Pioneer is way too overpriced, even the 2000nxs2 is still way too expensive
I gotta be completely honest, I'm surprised Denon DJ dropped the ball with their "Change your ryder" marketing campaign. They had everything going for them considering they had superior hardware for YEARS before the 3000s even came out, and still NO ONE (at least from what I can tell in the states) uses them. I still have yet to see a single Denon player in a club, let alone a mixer. It's like that market completely ignored them and simply waited for the 3000s to come out. And when they were difficult af to find, they just waited for them to come into stock.
I think the Djay pro stuff is going to get bigger. with beatsource as the host for your sets , it is a wonderful option. Now with turntablist in mind with the new Vinyl and stuff. Great stuff for the future
Great video as always! Been using these since launch! Fantastic players, they're so good I bought a 3rd. Just waiting for the next 4 channel mixer release 🙌
Rane Twelves here.. the best ‘moving something’, closest to turntables into digital league..
Ive seen a few DJ's using the cloud feature with a cheap "Wireless Ethernet Bridge". Typically about £30 for a tplink one. And then paired to the hotspot on their phone. Not as nice as Denon but can be made to work cheaply enough with small kit that fits in your backback. Im a Denon guy myself. While i will use a CDJ if thats all there is, my preference is to use DenonDJ. The feature set is just way ahead which enables me to deliver more in the style that i play.
About a more affordable option, I agree. Thanks Mojaxx
no one is going out of their way buying these. NO one i know. Price will always be an issue if you are a professional DJ. that is why, even if Denon sc6000/M isn't called a "club standard", it still is the best option. and if Pioneer isnt doing something about it, They could go the Nokia way.
Pioneer is apple in the dj industry. Lot of hate from the other side, “overpriced” “lacking features”… but in the end they are just ruleing the industry
@@benceujvari960 Justin Bieber's sales are probably more than your favorite artist's albums combined, however that doesn't mean it's better. I'll look out for myself and could care less about the "industry" or "club standard". Serato and Pioneer have been stagnant for too long sitting on their past user base while the rest of the competition has actually been innovating and pushing the hardware further into the future (i.e. capacitive touch screens, USB 3.0 ports, ethernet LAN capabilities, controllers WITHOUT needing a PC, dual layer capabilities, on board file/song analyzing WITHOUT a PC, WIFI streaming, just to name a few). Bottom line is that it isn't farfetched to call them overpriced and say that they are lacking features because they actually fulfill those statements 100%.
As usual, you make an excellent point… there needs to be a new XDJ-1000mk3 or what have you. You’re a man of the people Mojaxx. Even a Pioneer equivalent of the Denon LC-6000 expansion controller would be very welcome.
I like returning to these reviews after the fact to see how they hold up. Returning to this one in December 2023, after most of us have been outside and back in clubs and at festivals for at least 1 year. Firstly, this is still a great overall review of the unit. But the question still remains: how many people who are in the market for DJ-oriented, turntable replacement media players play in clubs enough to warrant the inexcusably massive price delta between the Pioneer CDJ 3000 and the Denon SC6000?
Even allowing for the unusual difficulty of actually buying an SC6000 in the USA right now, it seems all the arguments about the CDJ hinge mostly on “club standard.” We’re back outside for a year now: How many of us are playing in clubs?
If they are not made for dj’s but for clubs and festivals on what can a dj practice at home to have (almost) the same experience?
1000% agree that pioneer need some affordable standalone players. Most people I meet getting into DJing are going for Serato because the pioneer ecosystem is too expensive. That or they're buying vinyl and turntables. The price of 2 CDJs, not even with a mixer will get you two turntables, a nice little 2 channel mixer and a ton of vinyl. Pioneer is being abandoned.
This feels like Pioneer have paid a wedge for this review 😂
The SC6000 is far superior
The fact that he wouldn't even say the word Denon or mention the SC6000 in this review is proof enough
Clearly been paid off and told not to mention Denon, or he'd have given a proper objective review and compared them to the competition.
@@alexsedman1 I disagree. Mojaxx has never been one to be a whore for the industry. Look back at his livestreams. He uses both Denon and Pioneer kit. I think that he has given us his honest take on each hardware manufacturer's kit for this generation. I'm sorry he didn't emphatically endorse what you Denon fanboys wanted to hear. But, judging by the parties/festivals I've seen over the past couple years, I'd say that Denon haven't convinced peeps, other than the paid endorsements, to "change their rider", or "embrace the future" quite yet.
Same here. No value addition to warrant 15 minutes of our lives on the out-classed gear we already know!!!
Still yet to get my hands on a pair of these in any venue yet
Don't get me wrong, I do love the video and all your videos!! But it's time for BETTER MORE AFFORDABLE products, to be the new club standard!!! For example The older Denon sc5000 (which you can buy it used around for $1000) was released in january 2017 and is over lapping this 2020 hunk of junk $2500 CDJ. O! and the Wifi is already thing that comes with SC series, without plugging it in like a Compaq laptop from 2006!!
We really need a new budget, club-size player from Pioneer... XDJ 1000MK3 / CDJ 2500 something...
Great review as expected. Looking forward to the equivalent review of the sc6000s
their standalone lineup is a mess - playing out means needing to know the quirks of all the different players you might end up with. If they're smart they'll figure out a cohesive strategy based on the 3000 and start bringing out revamped lower-priced models. I'm not optimistic, though: I think doing this correctly means leaving some old workflows behind and I'm not sure pioneer has the stomach for that.
also as a denon fanboy the 3000s are definitely the best CDJs I've played on. The jog, the hardware 4/8 loop buttons and the big touch screen make it pretty dang good
They are simply WAAAY to expensive for what they offer. BUT The Real Problem are the DJs who are to stubborn to go for Denon and change the Clubpicture and therefore force Pioneer to innovate again and offer decent Hardware for decent Prices.
Funny enough I just used this for the 1st time I like it but I find the nxs2 mixer a lil confusing as I was dropped in on the fly at the club. But over its great. But I used it in serato. The DJ switch over is clunky the way the club set it up. Maybe I’m missing something. But overall great. Denon is killer though!
I had a chance to use these side-by-side next to my own SC6000's. I think in the mid-size party / DJ enthousaist range these haven't won the generation at all... The "Competition" (Just say the word "Dennon" already) actually gives pioneer a run for their money : P
My only complain about the 3000’s I recently use them at a beach venue that I worked at and the wear and tear on the hot cue buttons is bad! The 1st and 2nd buttons were completely gone and wouldn’t even work.. guess they were abused before I got to them.. 🤷🏻♂️
I'm very happy with my denons
still didnt manage to get new high - mid-high end players, man, i miss it
Gotta remember that these were new just as the pandemic started so its still a fresh use market only 1 season in really as the new club standard so in a year or so this might be different
What a complete miss to not include streaming capabilities, Denon did it long time ago
I don't own either but i would still prefer to have the Denon SC6000M even if they were the same price.
Those spinnin platters and all the extra tech for me hands down and they are way cheaper to boot.
Mojaxx I have full respect on your reviews hence, my subscription to your channel. but on this segment I think its your opinion on weak facts. You sounded like a product endorser than a reviewer by parroting Pioneer’s “industry standard” card where you know there is a product out there who beats the CDJ3000 in almost all aspects. What baffles me is you didn’t or can’t even mention the competition’s name, it’s a red flag for a paid review. I have no brand loyalty, I can afford the best gear to buy for my personal use but I am very wary on how I spend my hard earned money by researching, watching unbiased reviewers and comparing products and buyer’s feedbacks as well. With that said, I somewhat disagree on your opinion on this segment.
Mojaxx you should do an educative episode talking about Digital summing e digital quantisation vs Analog summing, how we humans hear the sound ( analog ), because the majority of DJs are deeply ignorant on the metter even some big cats on the industry don't have the minimal basics, why do this, because i think that might be very helpful for people to make more wise and better quality choices spending less money instead of getting screwed by the marketing of big corporations.
CDJs are just good souncards with jog-wheel and buttons same is the mixer (the summing of the tracks happen in digital domain 0s & 1s and is digitally quantised than converted which artificial summing as it is mathematically quantised), by simply using traktor, serato etc + a sound card like RME, Antelope and a quality Analog mixer the result would be much cheaper and of a higher quality in terms of sound perceived by the audience and no need to pull out 10000$ every 4 years.
CDj has more the purpose to make DJs look that they are doing something where in reality they don't do much creatively speaking .
People get partisanship about WAV or LP which are both great and there is not such big difference between but the real huge difference is the digital summing (artificial quantisation) vs analog summing (natural summing).
Sound is more HIFI and better for human ear if mixing 2 digital files in an analog mixer than mixing 2 LP in a digital mixer.
The instruments on a large percentage of dance music tracks are already summed digitally.
3000's are so nice :)
How to tell it's a Pioneer-approved review? You keep saying "competition", not "Denon".
I always do that, apart from on very rare occasions where it’s unavoidable. I’ll do the same when I do my long-term review on the SC6000s soon.
I like my s8 and two d2 so much more the pioneers
I think for affordability denon are excellent. I have sc5000s and for the price of 1 3000 you effectively get 4 players with dual layer...
Great long term review of this product.👍
Pioneer wins! in being the good looking dj jog wheels so far, but they really should lower the 8 cue pads under the jog wheel & have them color coded like their other products. Maybe shorten the screen to be more rectangular and lower the price a bit.
Most "working djs" I've encountered will avoid using these at clubs (unless forced by the venue) because of the cue pads not being easily accessible and not being color coded.
Also noticed, djs that play music with the same BPM all night, usually adore these units.
The cue pads ARE colour coded
@@djadriankay you're right, but barely visible compared to their other products.
This is why i put "color coded like their OTHER products".
To clarify: Like the clear-ish pads that are on their top battle mixers or top controllers Pioneer makes. Big reason why, because most club & vip event djs usually play in low light conditions.
Thanks for commenting.
@@mikebeats7448 Ah OK, I get what what you mean. To be fair I have had them now for 6 months and I regularly play an outdoor terrace with zero lighting in the DJ box and I had no issues. The fact they don't work as sample pads.... that i will complain about lol
@@djadriankay 👍
@Mike Beats, After using them for awhile, my first concern about the placement of the 8 cues pads is gone. I also own a SC6000M and I don’t feel it any better below the jog on the Denon, than under the screen on the 3000. I’ve never hit any button by mistake on the 3000, while playing with the cues.
I do prefer the hard touch of the 3000, than the soft touch that I have on my 6000, S11 or Rane One.
They are bright enough in dark or sunny environment (and I have bad eyes). Talking about brightness, that’s a big problem on the SC6000, as the buttons are not bright enough.
The cues are color coded. What I prefer on the 3000 over the 6000, is the unique 8 cues line, mixing hot cues and loops. Hot cues are in colors (or not, depending on the preferences) and loops are in orange. I like the fact that I can do 2 hot cues / 1 loop / 3 hot cues / 2 loops (just an example). Instead of having 8 hot cues on a layer and 8 loops on a second layer on the 6000, such as the controllers does.
It’s all a matter of preference (and budget). Like 99% of people, I feel that Pioneer is selling the 3000 for way too high. I’ve got my first one in Dec 2020 for 2290 euros and the second one for 2600 euros… Denon has also raised up their prices at 1800 euros for the SC6000 and 2000 euros for the SC6000M.
Funny,.. If you understand Samba and basic networking, you can access your rekordbox collection on any computer. One USB connection to a CDJ 900NXS/2000NXS/2000NXS2/3000/XDJ(700/RX/RX2/1000/1000mk2/etc) you have a fully analyzed song that is fully about to be played remotely. Pioneer won't admit it, but if you want to take the time. That monthly subscription is nothing more than an overpriced service fee that really does not need a service key. My iPhone, MacBook, and Windows PC can all access my Rekordbox Collection that is ready to go anywhere without needing a key.
once you try denon sc players you cant go back
I'm sorry 😐 pioneer DJ is not the same company 😕 as they use to be. Underperforming underwhelming while overcharging for all their latest products and now alpha theta what the hell😂
Xdj 1000 mk3
Traded in my Denon stuff for a set of 3000’s and a V10 two years ago. Best decision ever; imo Pioneer wins hands down.
Yes! I owned NXS2s. Switched them out for SC6000s. After 1.5 years, went back to Pioneer w' the 3000s. The difference between the NXS2s and the 3000s are stark!!
Yes, I noticed almost immediately that my Lossless files, as well as my few 320CBR tracks were immediately better sounding on the 3000s vs. my NXS2s and the SC6000s.
DVS doesn't apply to me, so the standalone hardware's limitations, by comparison, don't apply to me at the moment.
Denon is gaining ground, but the 3000s are the most complete decks that Pioneer have ever released. The differences are purely proprietary.
For the average user, the 3000 is superb! But, as the tech evolves, and the up and coming generation begins to demand more, Denon will more than likely come up ahead.
Pioneer don't appear to be willing to move beyond what the Pros demand. Not even taking into account that the next generation of pros will demand more.
Like I said in a recent Reddit convo.....standalone hardware won't peak until' they can match, feature for feature, what DVS software can achieve.
Pioneer clearly aren't on that path. Denon are, however!!!
No onliline streaming services? Can't analyse on the fly? Not a duel layer player? About £800 quid more expensive? I mean I've made a bit of arse of it buying sc6000, s
Thank god I bought the full James Hype and a V10 just after launch. Bars in the north where I live are strictly bring your own kit, not a chance they even bought NXS2. Those all in one controllers I really struggle to play on but sadly i’m seeing more and more booths physically sized for them with bar owners saying “Well thats what DJ’s use isn’t it?” NO!!!! My dislike is the cramming of things onto screens and no thought for people with accessibility issues. I’ve done gigs with controllers and every time i’ve caught the pads while leaning over to get to see the screen. Of course, some would say us less genetically perfect people should not be out DJ’ing.
There is absoloutly no reasonable point why they won. They just won, because it's Pioneer and they're clubstandard. That's like saying "the iPhone is the best smartphone, because it's an iPhone" - that's just plain dumb.
They're underpowered, way overpriced, have a dramatic lack of features and the compatition is way stronger.
That's not a long term review and comparision, it's a statemant of a fanboy.
But hey: That's what the DJ scene wants oviously. Pioneer because it's Pioneer, no new stuff to get used to, and equipment that's more expansive than most peoples cars. Dumbest scene ever...🤦♂
Donde esta el Stock de PIONEER !!!!!!, no se puede vender un producto que no existe en el mercado. Vergonzoso !!!!!!!!, que manden a casa al departamento de Marketing y lo inviertan en fabricar producto.
over priced and lacks streaming i'll stick with sc6000's
In Mojaxx we TRUST! ! ! The only English accent DJ I can stand lol . . . No offense please, but let's be honest, I hate watching videos from people with an accent
They are geared for millennials who need the synch button because they cant DJ on vinyl
Bro, I have vinyl. I have a Condesa mixer. That 'ish is niche. I love it, but.... Anyway, CDJs (and for some, SC6Ks) are the new standard. Get over it.
I've NEVER touched the "sync" button on either the CDJs or SC6Ks. Seriously, your argument is soooooo TIRED!! If that's all you've got, perhaps you need to hang it up.
Maybe I've missed it, but you should do the same type of revisit/review of the SC6000s.
And if possible with the all in ones.
I will do the 6000s at some point later this year, yes.
@@Mojaxx I'd be interested for you to do a run down of what you think the Denons do better and what they don't, could be a separate video if you want to avoid going too off topic on a review video. I have strong opinions since I own both but would also love to hear your take.
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*Revive the XDJ series. And no, i don't mean the controllers i mean the stand alone media players, the XDJ 1000 and 700.*
I agree. Not having a good and updated mid level player has kept me on the fence now for years.
I really like my XDJ 1000 MK2s; would be nice if they could be used with Serato DJ in HID but it forced me into the Rekordbox Ecosystem and now...I think that was the right move for me. Still glad I got my kit vs. a DDJ-1000 which was the other option.
As a long time Traktor user (Since the 2000s), I had bought the MK1 XDJ-1000s for exactly the purpose the CDJ-3000 is made for.. However at the time I never loved the sound quality on them.. I ended up using them in HID mode with a Xone PX5 mixer... I sold my XDJ-1000s to get the first Denon Prime SC5000+X1800 kit because it promised to be the "Traktor in a box" solution allowing me to leave the laptop behind.. Fast forward to 4 years later and I still have and love the Denon Kit (It truly was future proofed). I use them for mobile DJ style events (wedding and corporate etc)...
Where that leaves me today on the topic of Pioneer CDJ3000, they look great. I'm sure they sound excellent and are a pleasure to play on.. But as a home/end user it isn't something I would see myself buying. I am not tied down to any particular platform (even though I still create my playlists in Rekordbox and export them to other software).. I do understand however that some people get comfortable with a particular brand experience and will never change (like iPhone owners for example).. And as such, if the majority of DJs are already more comfortable on Pioneer Rekordbox / Hardware.. I don't see the "competition" ever being able to sway those users...
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How did you find the PX5 mixer compared to the X1800, especially sound quality?
@@ChrisBlade. I won't lie, I REALLY liked the PX5. It was still an analog mixer that sounded great when summing audio sources (layering extra loops on top of tracks etc...). I have since picked up a Xone 96 as well..
That being said, the X1800 sounds great as well. Especially when using the onboard soundcard (with Serato or Traktor for example). I appreciate both mixers for different reasons.. in the same way we can appreciate cars for different reasons.
These days, I mostly use the X1800 Mixer with the SC5000 decks.
If you are looking to buy one over the other, I'd suggest not leaving it exclusively up to the sound quality alone.. I'd also consider how and where you want to use each mixer.. (with the onboard soundcard, or external decks etc).
@@JamesPiquette thanks for the reply, I currently have the SC6000’s with the X1850 mixer, I’m very happy with it and it’s just for my home set up, I do live streaming and a few parties etc, but the other week I took my Denon players down to my friends for a session, hooked them up to his Xone 96, he has the same speakers as me too, and I was blown away with the sound quality, I’ve come home and the difference is crazy, which is why I’m considering the PX5, as I would still like to have the effects as an option on the mixer
@@ChrisBlade. Try (before buying) to listen to one in a shop. I'm confident you will like the PX5. I wouldn't get rid of the X1850 as it has some advantages with your SC6000s (like SoundSwitch / Engine lighting integration, or on air mode).. The PX5 also isn't as expensive as the Xone 96. It's a very nice option that will have that sound character you are looking for with analog audio summing on A&H mixers.
I own both sc6000 and cdj3000 and they are both great but honestly with better feeling and flow for me personally is more of denon and exporting music with engine prime is so much easier than rekordbox...denon is so underrated its changing the game so much
I agree with you. I own the 6000M’s and they work seamlessly. Definitely ahead of the rest and sadly underrated. Just over half the price to…..
Denon might not be the "King of the Andals & Protector of the Industry Standard" but I'll be damned if it isn't The King of The North...The People's Champ and Mojaxx ain't fooling nobody. We know what his media player of preference is. He may not be a fanboy but I know he pledges allegiance to the hotness & it doesn't get any hotter than the SC6KM. Look at his face at the end. It pains him to say that the CDJ 3K is King.
Perhaps he meant King of the Club / Rental House. The SC6000/M is better for multi-format, which he plays a lot. So two different uses.
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I own the denon’s and love them. The only thing I think Pioneer wins on, excluding familiarity, is aesthetic/design. They look cooler, although more cluttered. No hate to them, I’d own both if I could.
I love my denon sc6000’s and have a pair of cdj3000’s on order hope they come in soon so I will have the best of both world 😊 my ddj 1000 doesn’t quite cut it compared to stand alone players I feel the jogs are better with pioneer. I can not compare the 3000’s as I haven’t played with the 3000’s yet
I use denon too but I agree with you that pioneer has better design
Must admid that Pioneer effects sound better than Denon and Pioneer EQs isolate better than Denon. IMHO
I love my SC6000’s, but I was just so used to the mechanical feel that the CDJ’s have. That’s probly the only thing I miss about the CDJ’s.
"Flagship", "club standard", and other fancy words are pure propaganda. The price for each is just ridiculous for what they actually offer. EVERYONE should buy Teslas because they are the car standard 😂😂😂
Denon SC6000’s gobble these any day and the price point on the 3000’s is double. Unfortunately, everyone has bought into the eco system and the hype after the mark 1’s. Once there is bigger uptake by the main stage dj’s, the. SC6000’s will be more common place.
For me the Denon SC6000Ms blows them 3000 players out the water. I played on both systems and you get way more bang for your buck with the SC6000MS. Just my personal opinion.
Have you had any "glitches" with the sc6000ms? The main thing I look when buying gear is reliability
@@signsofthetimes886 No issues on my end
Big time issues with my units
I own (2) sc6000 & 1850 mixer.
@@GLOVEGLOBALI also own sc6000ms and never had an issue. What issues do the sc6000’s have?
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HA HA HA :) If a Pioneer merely relies on his dominant position as a standard, he will quickly lose it - the line between love and hate is very shallow, and the rule literally holds true everywhere. The world is moving forward and the Pioneer seems to have stopped in place.
Big kudos to the engineers from DENON DJ, they did a really good job.
How can something that isn't even accessible be "King"? Rental houses for big festivals can't even fulfill Pioneer riders. When big name DJs are playing festivals like Tomorrowland on CDJ 2000 NXS2 in 2022, how can 3000 be King? Yet random blokes have 6 of them & a V10 in their bedroom.
Demon Sc6000 all day Way more Technology then tge 3000
I just used them sunday.. it doesnt matter if it was a cdj800 as long as it works i can use em
underwhelming and overpriced for a struggling market...they pivot the sale marketing strategy focus on clubs but even those can barely afford them. The marketing is laughable because it is easier for a DJ to use the equipment if they can afford it and get some milage at home with them. I have used them and are nothing spectacular, and feel quite unpolished. They are the king because of the monopoly Pioneer has but not because of the quality of the product.
I had 12 on order for months and just days ago guitar center said they didn’t get their full shipment of stock and they’ve been holding 27k of my cash. Do anything you can to avoid that turd of a company.
#DjcityTV Since Tracktor Released Ver 3.6 & its Been 4 Years Can You Do A Update, in Depth Review on both the Controller /Hardware & Software as of 2022
That's still not a good conclusion at all. Why? Because the argument is pretty dumb. They better, because they sold better? That's not the point. It's not the better device because it get's sold better.
The real answer must and can only be: No, the CDJs aren't that good anymore. And no, they're not ahead anymore. Competion is extremly strong. And from a technology point of view, they're far behind. So far behind, that a nearly six year old device beats it. Sorry, but that's just a hype - not more. Pioneer gets bought, because it's known.
I'm not a fanboy at all and have a Pioneer set at home (2x 2000NXS), but I'm a DJ for 15 years now and Pioneer was king but isn't anymore.
I’ve always wondered why you state that you are in the DJ City UK lab and then only ever quote prices in USD?
YESSS!!!! i've waited for this video for so long! i thought this would be the first video of "beatsource tech" but i'm so happy it's finally here!!! i'll enjoy every second of this!
The XDJ 1000 MK2 needs some firmware updates to get closer to the bedroom dj practice session for CDJ 3000 users in the club.
Hey Mojax, love the channel - long time follower. However, I am very surprised that more noise hasn't been made about how the new APU handles interpolation of tracks, specifically with Master Tempo and the "Key Sync" enabled. The new processing power has SIGNIFICANTLY improved the implementation of the MT algorithm - DJ Ravine's initial review did a small side by side comparison with the NXS2 and it's like night and day.
And the Key Sync feature is just not spoken about enough. AFAIK Digital DJ Tips are the only ones to correctly identify just how elegant the system works when mixing harmonically. These are capable of extreme manipulation of the source content with incredible results.
I would love to see an in depth feature covering these aspects of the players! Obviously all of the other improvements are nothing to be snuffed at - but I really feel like this is what it's worth paying the big bucks for!
Had to return one with a busted jog wheel and went back to my denons. Still have a newish single cdj3000 sitting in the closet, just can’t justify the cost of buying a second player right now. Otherwise I love the 3000’s.
You are 100% on the nose about needing an updated xdj1000.
The SC6000 remains my king. Fck that ‚club standard‘ nonsense. I am the DJ to decide on what devices I play, not vice versa. The Pioneers offer far less features while being more expensive. Big no-go.
Yes, but not you decide what’s the king, and yes pioneer it is.
It was never the king….the kings name is denon
I sold up my pioneer gear a few years back and fully got into the denon SC players with a Xone 96. I still play a lot gigs now with the CDJ2000 NXS2 and they feel really old and dated. When I do get the chance to play on the CDJ 3000 I love them. They are so nice to use and feel like a massive upgrade from the 2000. They do lack some of the storage and WIFI streaming features of the denon players but make up for it with HID support for most DJ software. I have been a traktor user for 20 years and was waiting for HID support, it never happened so I sold my SC players and went back to a DVS setup. I would like to see pioneer update the CDJ 900NXS and bring out a more affordable players or even bring out a new player with a spinning plater like the rev7 but bigger. I have to agree with you though even though Denon have given it a good go Pioneer are still very much on top when it comes to club setups the CDJ3000 is still the one to have.
It's rarely mentioned, but the lack of Traktor support with the Denon gear is actually quite a big miss when it comes to club adoption. In the open-format world we sometimes forget how many house & techno DJs still use Traktor.
@@Mojaxx before in-music took over Denon DJ there was a lot of TSI files for Denon gear. I just wonder if the lack of support for the SC players is down to NI or Denon. I would really like to see the LC6000 mapped for Traktor and Rekordbox I would go out and purchase a pair straight away if they were compatible with more DJ software.
@Mojaxx loved your weekend Stream from your Bar/Container Residency, some great vibes Man. More :)
Excellent video as always. This guy is kind of a guide or a good reference when it comes to dj equipment or specifications.
I still using xdj 1000 mk2 since released day, I haven't upgraded since I don't see a price/ value/ features that will make sense to me for the music I play.
My current setup get the job very well done and still top notch... no competition at all ....remember that any machine will be as good as the one operating the machine... and yes.. they will come up with the replacement of the xdj1000 mk2
King this is a MK3 1000
*No, but that won’t stop it from being the player on all the club and festival stages.*
Not always though. Denon reported that 31 DJ's this year on the 3 week Tomorrowland used DenonDJ SC's. So popular that the main stage had the 2 setups side by side on sliding desks that could be moved into position in just seconds as each DJ came on and off stage.
@@dj_paultuk7052 you mean the dj’s that promoted by denon, just to use they gear, like oliver heldens, and laidback luke?
@@benceujvari960 So there were 31 promoted DJ's by Denon at Tomorrowland ?. Unlikely.
@@dj_paultuk7052 So i just looked up, around 400 dj’s were on tomorrowland, so 31 is not that impressive, and i also opend some videos from tomorrowland, and bigger names still used pioneer. Soo….
@@djstuc It’s not likeing or dislikeing, the denons copied the whole formfactor of the cdj/djm, so the paid dj’s can play on them, and that’s all, i watched some denonback luke set, and he never used any of the “feaures” of the players
Denon king now, sorry Pioneer
The lack streaming service ability is the reason why I didn't CDJ 3000s but Denons. Also the Name CDJ turns me off, they should be called the XDJ 3000s.
This Man is very honest person and professional review as always - one of the best 👍
I hoped to hear something about the not so good reliability rumors. You mention the 4 deck james hype setup but hype actually switched back to nxs2 because of reliability.
the notion that these 10:54 CDJ3000's aren't supposed to be bought by DJ's, but still expecting DJ's to be comfortable performing on them when they show up to play a set is like telling someone they're gonna use a Custom Shop Strat or Les Paul, but they can't practice on that same guitar at home. that type of formula makes the first portion of your set awkward while you're feeling your way around. just buy the Denons and bring them with you to your show
Got my cdj3000s after a 7 month wait they are absolutely f++king glorious
Are you based in the uk, I understand shipments are coming in this month
@@jamesearly7388 yes mate I am, My order was through bopdj I almost forgot I had them coming as it took so long
@@cilitbang12 mine are through bopdj also so fingers crossed they come soon thanks for reply mate
@@jamesearly7388 send them an email mate I was back and fourth over the months kept me in the loop!
It seems like it’s only the club standard because clubs are buying it, not because DJs want it. I own a pair of SC6000s and they are nothing short incredible, better than pioneer, and every DJ whose played on my gear agrees.
I fully second that. Still happy with my DENON sc6000m’s after almost 2 years.
Pioneer Dj’s jaws drop when I show them what I can do with them that the industry standard can’t do.
Pioneer dont make flagship players for DJ’s anymore. They make it for club owners and event companies.
They can go on like that for another 5 years and they’ll see what their real end users (dj’s) end up doing.
The dj’s write a rider, and they request the gear they want to use… so the local club can have the denons, but if a big name comes they need to rent the club standart.
‘Not meant to be bought by DJs’… isn’t this a problem worth noting? Are DJs not allowed to want to practice with the same gear they preform with? This ridiculous statement could only have been made by a DJ WITH a pair of 3000s. 🤦
where pioneer are losing out is rekordbox lighting. They have discontinued the RB-DMX1, the only thing you can buy with rekordbox lighting now is the FLX10, they have abandoned the CDJ3000 pro dj link lighting, the DJM A9 lighting modes, as there is nothing to buy now to support, its been over 12 months the RB-DMX1 really hasnt been available freely! Pioneer has dropped the ball, if they have give up to soundswitch , then they should let soundswittch intergrate to rekordbox, or just allow any USB dongle to work. I pay a subscription already for rekordbox ... no idea why rekordbox lock you down to a proprietary dongle too...
I would really love streaming in the 3000s. I have a pair and love them, but that feature would be great to just test out tunes before I bought them.
I never thought I needed it but I also love the cue link feature, but clubs never seem to get it working despite my technical rider telling them how to set it up 🤣
I’d never used beat jump until I got 3000s and now I use it loads.
Cue link and beat jump are both available in the 2000s though I think.
Oh and the 3000 screen is SO nice.
thx for the mention bro 🙏🏼 I love the 3000s
Honestly I never thought I'd see the day you'd be choosing CDJs over turntables. Says a lot about the 3000s.
@@Mojaxx these will even make me ditch the S9/S11 one day. so crazy how they managed to get all important functions on the top layer of a single unit. and the way the platter sounds while scratching is insanely accurate.
btw: I love that you put your 7 inch adapter image on the virtual deck display on the 3000s 😂 looks so cool 👍🏻
It’s a shame it’s still selling so well, as the Denon is much better. But people like familiarity, that’s the only reason they sell as they are not the best, and they are expensive (overpriced)
there is no difference between the cdj 3000 and any dj controller. didnt like them from day one
with a lot of cons. no scrolling by touch - no internal anylize for songs - no streaming - no extra function on the hotcue pads - over prices compared to competitors. ill stick with the all in one opus quad and denons
Pioneer DJ- The Apple of the DJ industry. haters will hate them but you cant deny they get the job done day in and out...
@@djstuc your right they do. But they don’t revolutionise anything. They watch others and then implement their own version in a more polished and better way. They focus on things working reliably before they go for anything extreme. Folding phones is a good example of this
@@djstuc its true when steve jobs was around they used to be more original in innovation but thats not the case in recent years. Look at what other laptop makers and phone makers are doing and its hard to press a case for apple being at the forefront anymore., They are more for consolidation now. nothing wrong with that though. Innovation for the sake of innovation is not always needed.
@@djstuc If you do your research you'll know that apple outsources its chip production and that the M1 processors are all based on ARM technology (not apple). They have design input but its mainly on how they integrate into the apple ecosystem. Hence the amazing performance with mainly apple software. It also a political gain as they dont need to rely on intel anymore. Its smart business sense rather than innovation. But to be fair we are moving away from my original point. Pioneer DJ did innovate in their early days with the CDJ and some of their mixers which are now industry standard. They Havent done much since because they dont need to! The CDJ 3000 is a good example of this. It does the job with just enough improvments over the previosu generation.There are similarities between Pioneer DJ and Apple in my opinion but of course we can agree to disagree.
@@djstuc ha ha! Maybe therye is some stretching going on on both sides! no hard feelings. it is possible for people to have different opinions. have a great day
@@djstuc Thats interesting. thanks for sharing your setup. I love DVS and i run my 1200s through a rane 70 at the present (prior to this i had a S9!). I have a pioneer DDJJ rev7 as my secondary/ mobile setup. Believe it or not Im a complete apple fan and have an imac, macbook pro, iphone, applewatch, ipad, apple tv.....completely sucked into the ecosystem! I have one gaming PC which I use for certain programs including streaming. Maybe my comparison is a little simplistic but it occurred to me that both apple and pioneer had innovated more in their past and now maybe resting on their laurels. We techies are always hoping for more innovation and changes but the majority of people dont care! They will still install pioneer CDJs in their clubs because the standard is set and hard to change.I will still get the latest apple tech when it comes out but mainly because i know it will "just work". I miss watching apple keynotes and thinking "wow! thats amazing!" Regarding the 1200s.... they are an icon in the DJ community for sure and I love them. I do think CDJs have their place in history though as jobbing Dhs converted to digital mediums. Hence Id still give some props to Pioneer. I do remember the previosu standard- the Denon rack mount CD players which every club had prior to the table top design of the pioneers. At the time i bought the CDJ 500 and was blown away. But yes its not the same impact that the 1200s had on the birth of DJ culture.
cdj 3000s are good though the design is not the best .Denons are better
Still waiting to try the 3000's, so glad you've made this vid Mojaxx! Even if I had the money it's gonna be a while with the global chip issues to purchase, but always appreciate your solid & honest views whenever a new video is uploaded. I hope Pioneer take note for the need of a cheaper media player so we can leave laptops out of the booth forever!
That reworked jog wheel didn't age well. Its my main gripe about 3k's. It feels great, but don't leave it in direct sunlight for more then 15 min, or you may find yourself replacing the outer ring and sheet switch under it at a $150+ in parts alone (that wont likely be in stock STILL at the end of 2024!) Ask me how I know, and my other repair clients know. I replaced 6 just last summer alone, and I live in a small to med size city. The outer ring is made of WAY thinner/softer plastic, and they decided it would be a good idea to attach the sheet switch to it that cant be removed without a new replacement. ($65+ ea) Also the convoluted jog tension system never seems to work well, and becomes less functional as they age. They should have just kept the previous design. ie from the XZ / NXS2. They had it right the first time imho
I love both Pioneer DJ CDJ 2000 NX2 & CDJ 3000 they are both working horse!
Please do a same video about the Denon SC6000!