Had a boss that “promised” to promote from within … he hired externally (and a friend) … quite amusing to see such a mass exodus of many quality employees. Yep, I was one of several people who left for better paying jobs. Karma at its best!!! 🤣🤣🤣
I'm a proponent of promoting from within, especially to supervisory positions... I like the idea of the person in charge knowing the ins and outs of the businesss...
@@geraldlogue7620 they don’t like promoting it in because they feel that you’ll do favors for people that like you and they won’t respect your authority
@@animefitnessandphilosophyand that’s the ironic part cause they hire externally, some a friend they personally know, who won’t respect people under them
I did the same thing, trained 2 people who they promoted over me after I trained their entire team during Covid19...types my letter up and got the hell out.
And these same companies cry about employee loyalty, and nobody wanting to work hard these days. Good employees aint cheap. Cheap employees aint good. Social media lets us know who is worth putting in the extra effort for and its a short list.
@@daftwulli6145yup, people will accept lower pay if it covers their expenses if management and the work culture are good. Higher pay for a bad boss and toxic culture isn't worth it.
@@daftwulli6145well, regrettably, that level of reason and logic seems beyond most managerial types. In the businesses I’ve worked in over the last 48 years, it goes like this, upper management promoted/hired the manager that is having high turnover rates, so for them to believe that that person is the problem means that they have to admit that their promotion/hiring decision was in error, I.e. they fucked up, so, they wouldn’t do that, instead they will bemoan the low quality of workers today… but never take responsibility for their own poor decisions.
I worked at a drug rehab. I was part of the team that opened the doors. We had two, yes two, supervisors leave in a short amount of time. I put in for the position. The hired externally claiming one had management experience at a Goodwill. No, I'm not making this up. They then told me I was to train him. I told them no and gave them what I thought was a reasonable argument. 1 - if I'm not qualified to have that position, how am I qualified to train for it; 2) how is it going to look when it's time for the training to stop and now he's my boss telling me what to do? They told me how disappointed they were in me and that I wasn't a team player. I told them I guess not and decided a week or two off to look for another job was a good idea. They called me and told me I was a no-call, no-show and I was going to be let go if I didn't come in. I, in my most sarcastic voice possible said, "Oh no, who's going to train your new supervisor?" Can you believe it, they hung up on me? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
There's a flip-side to this. At my last job, they kept trying to promote from within to the supervisor position. But none of the existing employees would apply or take it when offered. The previous supervisor quit because of the nonsense and low pay. Everybody knew it. Shortly after that supervisor quit, the most qualified of the current employees applied for it and was turned down in favor of somebody else. (I don't remember if that person was from another department or from outside the company.) That person only lasted a few weeks before simply vanishing with no word. The guy who had applied for it left soon after. He didn't just leave the job. He left the industry entirely. They asked every single other employee in the department if they wanted the job, including me. We all turned them down. They hired a guy from out of town who just moved. About a month in, i asked if he regretted taking the job yet. He answered, "Yep!" without hesitation.
It's sad, but a lot of company's don't think big picture; they think bottom line. And as a result they forget the people who allow them to be profitable, and keep their business running. Take care of the people, and your people will take care of the bottom line and the business.
@@3312ACE I don’t understand why they don’t promote from within, to keep things running smoothly. Maybe because it results in awkwardness among the people who used to be coworkers.
The "I am not good enough to permantly fill the possition, but somehow know enough to train someone that is more experienced . . . Do they know how to do this job or not?”
"I'm somehow not qualifiied even though you expect me to know the job well enough to teach someone, that someone is qualified for the job even though they don't know enough of the job to pick it up on their own?"
I got massively screwed over at my job last week. I’m usually very quiet, keep to myself unless I’m helping someone, but man, I lost my shit. I yelled, I used the F bomb, and I walked out. I’m 53 years old. I’ve spent 38 years in the workforce, at different jobs. I am so sick and tired of having the petty, manipulative, lazy, drama-filled back-stabbing gossiping bitches & ego-filled, misogynistic, narcissistic, pathologically lying men stepping on my throat to raise themselves up. I’ve had it.
I remember one hard lesson I learned. Raise time came around and I didn't get one. Rather than getting upset, I simply assumed that my definition of good enough was different than theirs and stepped up my game. I ended up doing about double my required weekly workload along with helping out with other stuff around the office. I was able to maintain that without burning out so I figured I would be a lock for a raise. After about four months, I got the reward for my efforts. The regional manager worked out of our office and was well aware of my efforts. After about four months, he decided that I clearly didn't need my full 40 hours to do my job so he ordered my boss to cut my hours. That was the last day I ever gave anything more than the bare minimum at that place.
My mom always said “employers whip the horses that pull.” I was also told by an employer that if you do your job well, they will keep you there because they won’t be able to find anyone to do your shit job as good as you, and the other thing is, if you do your job too well, you are a threat to upper management. They’re afraid you will take THEIR jobs. Lesson from ALL of this is-do the bare minimum. If you have a strong work ethic like me, and you hate the day going slow, like me, and you have a lot of empathy and think you’re doing a good thing helping coworkers out, STOP!! Retrain your brain. There’s no such thing as teamwork at jobs. Another thing my mom told me; “your coworkers are not your friends”. Don’t trust your coworkers. They will throw you under the bus, every chance they get.
There was a story where someone acted manger of store, when asking for a the role official, was told not good enough and to do thier job. So they did just their job and owners complained how no-one was doing schedules and accepting deliveries
Had this happen. My boss said I was "too good at my current job to be promoted" to a promised position. So I dropped a resignation letter on his desk and went back to college for a Master's Degree. A few years later I saw my former boss when I lead a tour of my former facility for the Internal Improvements Engineering Team of a much larger company I was employed by. He asked me for a job. Turned out he was "too good at his job to be promoted" and had been forced to take a pay cut and a lower status position. No, I did not help him jump ship.
@@Xyler94 You still can't expect someone who baked the cake and then got denied the cake to show someone who wasn't involved in the process how to cut and eat the cake.
I had been in the Lead roll in my office during Covid so for an entire year I ran the office, they hired in a younger girl, gave her the pay and the title and wanted me to train her. I refused and they wrote me up! Everyone kept coming to me for all their problems and questions, I told them to go to the team lead and I was again written up for not being a team player. I shortly left after that and the office fell apart and that girl they replaced me with quit! I learned you don’t work for free meaning if they want you to be anything different than what you were hired for then get a new contract! This hiring outside for workers is garbage! You cannot do that to people! I left during Christmas! I decorated the ENTIRE office with my personal decorations and when I left I took everything down and told my replacement..have fun! It was a Dental office. But to have me train somebody to do what I had been doing, gave her a raise and then write me up because this girl had no clue what she was doing but was better qualified? She was 22! I was 48! It should be illegal!
Its funny, when I apply for a job that I'm qualified for, they "hired someone internally" but as soon as I work for a company and try to move up, they go external to hire.
Happened to me, working at a Franchise for McD's. All the Managers quit and we had the McDonald's corporate inspection coming up. I lead the team and got the store from a 3 C to a 2 AA & B store. The District Manager Mitch gave the position to his Wife and she was running both stores in our College town. I resigned and moved. I few years later I was interviewing for Management position and when I walked in the old District Manager was there. He apologized for what happened and told me he divorced the wife. Then he said, the position was mine on the spot. 😂😂😂. I told him No, thank you. You only get to screw me once and not marry me.
I once had a job where they kept telling me "it's not in your job description" when I'd ask to be trained to take on more responsibilities. One day they told us we'd have to stay late for a few weeks to catch up as we were chronically understaffed. I told them i couldn't do ANYTHING beyond what is clearly written in my employment contact as part of my expected duties and that they had spent almost a year reinforcing this.
I had worked 24 years in engineering and machinery and also car repairs / restoration and ex employer went with a 20 years old fresh out of collage and put him as head manager 🤦 I left and the place went bankrupt a year later because I was the only one who was doing anything. Some employers are just that stupid.
Probably because you were making them too much money in your role. They should have just offered you an assistant to do scheduling & other non-skilled tasks for you, and bumped up your pay.
I was laid off to make the books look better for a sale as I was highest paid and original engineer... 1 week later they asked me to do freelance work at a ridiculous pay for them as I was the only one who knew the entire system. I just hung up the phone.
This happened to my old department actually. Our old supervisor retired and so while they looked for someone else to fill the role, they had another supervisor from elsewhere in the company step up and help us out. He was great, and we all vouched for him to retain the position permanently, but instead, 3 months later, they pulled in some bonehead from outside to take the position. The outside hire creeped out the girls in our department and eventually got himself arrested for sexual misconduct about a month after I quit
I was doing my current job but as a contractor as the place couldn't create the position yet. Everyone else had to work weekends but my particular position was just Monday through friday. I wanted the position i was already working but someone else who actually works for the company was showing interest first and in all fairness they do look at already hired people first (that's fair). They knew though i wanted the job i was already doing. I was then asked if i would train them if they took the position. My only response was "do you ask the turkey to set the table at Thanksgiving"
Always put yourself in a position of power as an employee. Have a 6 month emergency fund and pay off all of your consumer debt. Then you’ll never be afraid to quit if need be.
I did, I had to, and it was great. I also had a job in my back pocket with a former manager, now the VP of development at a 500 person company. I called him up, said is that standing offer still standing he said yes, I said I'll be there 8AM tomorrow - and quit a job I'd had for 13 years and for which the first 11 years were the best years of my career. But some key people left, the company changed. The last 2 years was watching everything start to crumble.
I took over the role of head buyer at a company I worked with. I had no experience but the company offered to train me for the position and I went back to school to get training in purchasing. I wasnt payed nearly as much as the role deserved. When I asked my boss to get a raise after a few years in that rôle. He told me to finish my deploma and once qualified we can talk... About a year later. I finish the training. Got my deploma and went to see him to have me salary adjisted since now I had the experience and training. I wasnt a rookie anymore... He told me it wasn't a good time since thr company was having financial issues and we would need to talk in the next years review... Yeah... 2 months later I left. Fuck that
I was working as a mechanical maintenance engineer at a large meat processing plant. The Chief engineer came down with a serious ailment (died after 18 months). I filled in for that time. They then advertised for a replacement. My application was not considered (no interview) and they hired a Civil engineer with no experience in the industry. I was told I could train him up! Then they increased my hours from 42 hr week to 48hr permanently. I asked for more money but as I was on salary they said no and if I didn't like it there is the gate. What they didn't realise is that I had applied for a job elsewhere and accepted a couple of days later. So about that gate......... They lacked humour of the situation and escorted me off the premises. The good thing about that is they still had to pay me for 3 weeks and I started at the new place the following week. The factory closed down a couple of years later. I wasn't the only one being treated badly. Keeping staff was difficult.
Been there. I had to train someone for my job before I was moved to inferior work. The trainee was a "lad" that appealed to the management. He was an idiot though, I was asked to do overtime to do what he failed to, but I refused. In 3 months I had my old job back, but never forgot or forgave management.
I was made Assistant Manager at a well-known pizza place back in the 90's. I did everything that was asked of me. Then one day, I'm just NOT the Assistant Manager anymore and another employee was given the role. To this day, I have no clue what I did wrong or why I wasn't doing the job anymore. They didn't even have the courtesy to tell me. I had another job by the end of the week and quit. Bye 👋.
A co-worker at the company I worked at left to be a supervisor over a lot of hourly employees. Of course he was salaried. He eventually found that he was expected to be there about 60 hours a week. He could not go to church on Sunday because that was when they take apart the machinery for cleaning. It was much more than he was making but doing the math he made less than the workers below him. He quit 2 weeks later.
Had the same issue. They had me take "my turn" sitting in the big seat for 5 months while our "new supervisor" who was out on medical. Got asked to get him up to speed. I did. He got firedfirst day of a major project. Had to fill in again and applied for it. Didnt get it, got asked to train the guy who had quit another department, left for an outside job and came back to take the position. I declined and put in for another job, quit, and heard he quit first day of another major million dollar project. 😂 Then heard other people were quittng afyer I left. 😂
Sometimes they bring the new boss in as a trainee, or "consultant" who "shadows" you and who you train before they tell you that it's your new boss. FYI. If the new candidate or consultant is asking too many questions about how you do your job, have your resume ready. Sometimes they have the new person come in for a couple weekends looking over how you do the job without you there. Not much you can do about that.
"No I'm not doing that" and get up and walk out the door. I walked out in the middle of a shift for something similar. D-m-no's. Acting GM for six months.
If she’s qualified for the role within the company. She should already be able to carry out the role that she has been recruited for. So there’s no need for her to be trained by someone who wasn’t qualified for that same position in the company.
Sadly I've been in that situation. I was promised the position, and then was asked to train someone from another department to take over as my department head 😂. Joke's on them, sink or swim on your own. I don't train people who outrank me.
This actually happened to me years ago where the job that I was doing was feeling in for the original employee who might I add walked off the job as in "no call no show" for days before just abruptly quitting over the phone. I was assistant to her. Naturally, I figured it was an opportunity for me to apply for her spot since I'd been doing not only my job but hers as well. The new manager of the department decided to break the news to me that they had decided to hire someone else externally. The very next day, I went in with my resignation a f made sure to let it be known that it was "per the discussion that we had the day before" and she certainly was not expecting that and neither were my colleagues who I wqs plating assistant to at the time. I didn't know what they took me for but a fool, I was not.
Extra points to Veronica for having her Resignation Letter filled out and ready to send. I can see her making backups of database files containing previously submitted resignation letters, searchable and easily cross-referenced. Just incase a company tries to pull a legal stunt to deny her benefits.
This exact scenario happened to me, 35 years ago. The person they hired, that I was supposed to train, quit the first day, when they found out that I had quit, rather that train them, to do the job I was already doing. The General Manager begged me to come back. After a long negotiation, I agreed to come back, for a 75% pay raise. I stayed for another two years, before leaving for a BETTER job.
Hired for a job. First day I was introduced to my "assistant " and asked to train her. After just a few hours she told me that she was hired for the job I was hired for. When I asked the boss what was going on, he said yes, he had another role in mind for me after I trained her. I don't know who trained her after I walked out on my second day. They obviously didn't have anyone if they hired me to do it.
I always wonder what the end goal is in situations like this. Do they just expect people to stay after being given the runaround like that? How do they expect people to trust them after a stunt like that? Idiots.
This exact thing happened to me.. my boss quit suddenly and 4 out of 5 staff members also quit. I took over his position. I rehired and trained all new staff. I worked six days a week twelve hours a day for 5 months. Then they told me that a man from a sister company was coming in and taking my position. They had planned this all along. But they let me work my ass off, do all the hard work, then told me. Instead of quitting, i quiet quit. This was before it was a thing. My new boss came in and I spent my days basically surfing the internet for the next four years. F them.
I was working for the federal government. I was the only person closing out projects in our area office in addition to other tasks. I got excellent reviews for years but minimal bonuses and never was promoted. When I was out sick, recovering from shoulder surgery, my supervisor went looking for an internal hire for that promotion, not nationally like he was supposed to but internally through the district new letter. I was not informed of the opening. I found out that I was denied a chance at competing for the promotion at a group meeting AFTER I came back from sick leave. I immediately started looking for a promotion outside our organization, got it and after a year retired. My old supervisor was flaming mad at me and thought that I would never leave. I am so glad I retired.
If Veronica was "too good" at her cureent position to promote her to a higher position she clearly demonstrated being qualified for, then the company should've promoted Veronica to that higher position, hired a replacement for Veronica's current position and had Veronica train THAT person!
LOL! issue can also be companies promote people in title only. No increased wages, or they change the titles of everyone in the department. From Sales rep to "account sales manager" Same job, different title, but now all the reps have the title as "manager"
That would make too much sense, because the company wants to keep Veronica's expertise at a lower rate of pay. Years after I retired, there was a dispute over shift work, which we did about half of the time. A former colleague called me up and asked me to go through the schedules for the last three years to determine how much more day shift time the person who claimed to need accommodation for a medical condition was getting. I said, "My rate is $500 an hour with a 10 hour minimum, paid in advance, and it's level of effort.", meaning that I get paid for my time even if I don't find anything useful. He hung up the phone and I never heard from him again.
This exact thing happened to my aunt. Was a secretary for years and the office manager left. She picked up the slack, did it for months, then they hired someone else and asked her to train them. She quit cause fuck that noise
I actually had this happen to me working for a large corporate company. I left shortly after and come to find out they laid off the entire department I worked in shortly after I left. I ended up in a new career field where I landed a six-figure salary!
its really depends on the state of the economy. In booming times its much easier to quit & get a new jobs fast, but not now as the economy is in a recession & employers are laying off workers.
Where is that happening? I’m out here on a job (instead of doing my own) because the new guy called in his second week… we’ve been continuously shorthanded for over two years- can’t find anyone that can show up consistently for even two weeks….
In Alabama, a company can fire you without notice of any kind and don't even have to give you a reason, but if you quit without giving a 2-week notice, they have the right to put you on a "do not rehire" list. A dept director tried to tell me such a list didn't exist; that it was illegal. Then I showed him the last paragraph of the job discription for a position I was asking him about. It's clearly spelled out.
"So someone who's never worked here before, has more experience then I, in a role I've been doing for nine months? Well if that's the case then really you don't need me to train them. They must know the role better then I do if they have more experience in it then me."
I gave 110% to a job 15 years ago. A new hire got promoted over Mr because I was "indispensable" in my current role. I quit on the spot. I opened my own business and now make 10x more than the position I wanted. Everyone can do it if you are willing to put all the effort you gave to an ungrateful corporation into yourself instead.
This literally happened to my friend he did his job and the manager's job for 6 months. Then they told him oh we're not hiring you we hired someone else and wanted him to train the guy. He stayed on and did train the guy that didn't know like anything but he started looking for another job and and left. I told him that place was crap and to leave a long time ago they were always taking advantage of him
They kept stringing me along after promising me the position, then all of a sudden they told me that they found a great external candidate that checked all the boxes. Then they come telling me about how the training schedule would work and how long. I'm like and you're telling me this because? Well we figured that it would take you that long to train her since your so familiar with the job and we want her to be trained properly. Oh I'm not doing that. What do you mean? I'm not training anyone. Why wouldn't you train her? Apparently, I'm not good enough for the position so why on Earth would I be training yalls new hire? Well it's nothing against you it's just a business decision. Well it is personal for me, you don't have to beat me over the head to tell me I'm not good enough, since y'alls actions just proved that. The big boss turned her ass around and walked out of my office. Then they get HR involved and I told her the same thing. I am not a trainer. If you want me to be a trainer then pay me trainer money. You can't force me to train anyone,because training is not in my job description. I don't have to train anyone to do anything. They said ok thank you and I walked out. They were trying to train the lady and didn't know what the hell they were doing. I just kept my mouth shut. I lasted like 2 months after that.
An external hire can’t possibly be more experienced in that specific position at that specific company than the person who has been doing the job for the past 9 months.
Wow....This is freakish because the exact same thing happened to me. They didn't want to increase my salary and they paid the other employee who was over me, less than I was making. To make things worse, I continued to do both jobs for a year because that person didn't care to learn.
Same here. 7 months taking over the job of TWO full-timers as a temp. Applied for the job, was declined and asked to train a 19 year-old (sweet girl - no fault of hers) to do the job. Poor thing quickly realised why I hadn't been given the job to begin with. She lasted 4 months and transferred to another department due to mobbing. Too bad. I loved the actual work (or I wouldn't have applied at all - the pay wasn't amazing). I wish the "mobber" all of the Karma she deserves. Unless, of course, she has changed her ways.
Likely because of the Temp Agency Buyout system. For a Temp to get hired the temp agency demands an astronomical fee. "The percentage a staffing agency charges can range from 20% to 30% of the annual salary, depending on the role's complexity and the market. Payment is due upon placement."
@@guytech7310 You might be right in many cases. I have heard of that. In my case, it didn't apply. My following post became permanent. And I applaud that sweet young woman who switched departments: At her age, I wouldn't have had the courage.
This episode has been going on for a long time with me at my current company, and the HR, the lawyers of the company, and the EEOC are no help at all. This is disgusting behavior from the company. I train no more new employees of the company to let the managers do it.
This isn't about promotion betrayal per se, but more about terrible communication. Veronika might have turned out to not be functioning optimal in the position, but that is something to talk about one-on-one. Give feedback on where she is still learning and give advice. If she doesn't grow into the position enough, then you talk this through. What you don't do is all of a sudden drop that someone else has been hired already. An email saying they're going in a different direction is not at all sufficient.
ok you start on an incorrect assumption. 'Tis is a given that veronica is doing THE job. The proof is the request to train the replacement. I'll give you credit for knowing to hire for veronika's former position.
Something similar happened to me at my job. I was passed over for 2 people who had less than half my experience combined. I was asked to still help them with the stuff from the prior position that they hadn’t learned yet. I told them no.
THIS is why good smart employees WALK AWAY and DO NOT work for crap companies when they can! Corporate leaders ONLY need to look at themselves or the crap managers they put in charge!
It kinda happened to me a couple of years back and it really leaves a very big hole in their head resulting to my promotion which i accepted then resigned after a year.
I had this happen to me. I was working a temp job and I was told they were making my position permanent. All the staff were telling me that I was getting the job, but instead, they hired someone else and expected me to train them.
Good for you, Veronica! You should have left this job ages ago. Hope you get a better one. I was promised, not promotion, but a better office, nicer manager, more interesting job. I had to train a 16-year-old office junior to do my present job. Then the whole thing was scrapped. And they wondered why I left, and they only praise you properly when you're leaving. You go, girl!!
My first job out of college, I applied for an opening, something I’d help with from time to time. The hiring manager told me that they went with someone else but she wanted me to train the newbie. Newbie quit after a few weeks and the manager offered me the job. I declined. Then she went to my new manager (because my duties were absorbed into the new group) and my new manager also denied her request.
This is the strategic trap. The sad part is the manager makes sense too. It may literally be easier to replace the manager than the person doing the work. What the dumb butts in management always expect is that you are powerless and will clam down. The director above me took credit when I covered my boss not being there. When I got the next job offer, I took the small pay cut and left.
Let me give you a comment from a different perspective: When I worked as a security guard, I was acting site supervisor at one post for a time. The company I worked for had me train an outside hire(actually, another guard who was brought in from outside) as site supervisor, and had me train the person who would replace me as permanent site supervisor. However, I didn't mind training my replacement, as I didn't actually want to be site supervisor, but was willing to help out. I could see her side of things, but not everyone wants to be a supervisor...
That make sense, you didn’t want the job and is ok. In the example she wanted the promotion but wasn’t qualified… but she is to train a better qualified person… odd 😂
i hear you, a team leader asked if I wanted to do a supervisor job. The problem was that the branch had a habit of hiring immigrants who did not speak our language and were women unfriendly. I already knew the chance of getting a group like that was high and I have no desire to lead a bunch of manbabies who just tell me my place was in the kitchen or the bedroom. plus getting crap from the higher up when the work was not done because they refuse to listen.
I've been told this bullshit before. The person they promoted was fired because of massive mistakes and then rehired. They promoted her over me because of "experience". I've since moved on and have a role I deserve.
Yep I if was in the position where I could find another job easily if tis took place I would be gone too. Many times folks in this position are good enough that someone at another place will take them on right away
My mother in law worked at a grocery store for 30 years. She was more than qualified for the job. She told me they would never hire her as a manager because shes a woman. Every time they needed to hire a new manager, she got to be the one to train them.
This is a often told story and although sad.... people need to remember that the only thing that keeps you in a job is how much of an asset to a boss you are or how much of a chance of a lawsuit there is if they let you go.
"If I am not qualified to do the position now, I should not have been doing it for the last 9 months."
Exactly what happened to me at Lowe's .
"But hey you were doing two jobs for the price of one and it was cheaper than hiring someone until my nephew got the position " - management .
There's a thing tho. Everyone sux at their current job position, because if they didn't suck, they would be promoted until they start to suck.
While you may be qualified for the job, it definitely doesn’t mean you’re the most qualified or the best fit. Just good enough isn’t a winning card.
@@riddixdan5572 The Peter Principle
Had a boss that “promised” to promote from within … he hired externally (and a friend) … quite amusing to see such a mass exodus of many quality employees. Yep, I was one of several people who left for better paying jobs. Karma at its best!!! 🤣🤣🤣
I'm a proponent of promoting from within, especially to supervisory positions... I like the idea of the person in charge knowing the ins and outs of the businesss...
@@geraldlogue7620 they don’t like promoting it in because they feel that you’ll do favors for people that like you and they won’t respect your authority
Same here, I left and actually triple my salary.
@@animefitnessandphilosophyand that’s the ironic part cause they hire externally, some a friend they personally know, who won’t respect people under them
I did the same thing, trained 2 people who they promoted over me after I trained their entire team during Covid19...types my letter up and got the hell out.
And these same companies cry about employee loyalty, and nobody wanting to work hard these days.
Good employees aint cheap. Cheap employees aint good. Social media lets us know who is worth putting in the extra effort for and its a short list.
Also most peole quit managers not jobs, so if you have a high turn over look at management and fire the guy causing it
@@daftwulli6145yup, people will accept lower pay if it covers their expenses if management and the work culture are good. Higher pay for a bad boss and toxic culture isn't worth it.
They don't want loyal employees. They want slaves.
@@daftwulli6145well, regrettably, that level of reason and logic seems beyond most managerial types. In the businesses I’ve worked in over the last 48 years, it goes like this, upper management promoted/hired the manager that is having high turnover rates, so for them to believe that that person is the problem means that they have to admit that their promotion/hiring decision was in error, I.e. they fucked up, so, they wouldn’t do that, instead they will bemoan the low quality of workers today… but never take responsibility for their own poor decisions.
I worked at a drug rehab. I was part of the team that opened the doors. We had two, yes two, supervisors leave in a short amount of time. I put in for the position. The hired externally claiming one had management experience at a Goodwill. No, I'm not making this up. They then told me I was to train him. I told them no and gave them what I thought was a reasonable argument. 1 - if I'm not qualified to have that position, how am I qualified to train for it; 2) how is it going to look when it's time for the training to stop and now he's my boss telling me what to do? They told me how disappointed they were in me and that I wasn't a team player. I told them I guess not and decided a week or two off to look for another job was a good idea. They called me and told me I was a no-call, no-show and I was going to be let go if I didn't come in. I, in my most sarcastic voice possible said, "Oh no, who's going to train your new supervisor?" Can you believe it, they hung up on me? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
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This BEST OF clapbacks 👏👋👏👋👏
Thank you for sharing.
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But did you get that new job though? 😏🙏🏽
There's a flip-side to this. At my last job, they kept trying to promote from within to the supervisor position. But none of the existing employees would apply or take it when offered. The previous supervisor quit because of the nonsense and low pay. Everybody knew it. Shortly after that supervisor quit, the most qualified of the current employees applied for it and was turned down in favor of somebody else. (I don't remember if that person was from another department or from outside the company.) That person only lasted a few weeks before simply vanishing with no word. The guy who had applied for it left soon after. He didn't just leave the job. He left the industry entirely. They asked every single other employee in the department if they wanted the job, including me. We all turned them down. They hired a guy from out of town who just moved. About a month in, i asked if he regretted taking the job yet. He answered, "Yep!" without hesitation.
What was the job? Sounds rough
@@Lightdog555 Where I live is too small and isolated to call out specific companies by name online. But I am a local truck driver.
It's sad, but a lot of company's don't think big picture; they think bottom line. And as a result they forget the people who allow them to be profitable, and keep their business running. Take care of the people, and your people will take care of the bottom line and the business.
Yikes! That’s a bad job then.
@@3312ACE I don’t understand why they don’t promote from within, to keep things running smoothly. Maybe because it results in awkwardness among the people who used to be coworkers.
The "I am not good enough to permantly fill the possition, but somehow know enough to train someone that is more experienced . . . Do they know how to do this job or not?”
Wish I had these guts when I was younger.
Same. @@sharonmulloy2181
"I'm somehow not qualifiied even though you expect me to know the job well enough to teach someone, that someone is qualified for the job even though they don't know enough of the job to pick it up on their own?"
Apparently not 🥴🙄....buuuuuut they hired him anyway....yep.... happens a lot too
What have I learned here: Veronica is a lot more professional than I am
I got massively screwed over at my job last week. I’m usually very quiet, keep to myself unless I’m helping someone, but man, I lost my shit. I yelled, I used the F bomb, and I walked out. I’m 53 years old. I’ve spent 38 years in the workforce, at different jobs. I am so sick and tired of having the petty, manipulative, lazy, drama-filled back-stabbing gossiping bitches & ego-filled, misogynistic, narcissistic, pathologically lying men stepping on my throat to raise themselves up. I’ve had it.
I remember one hard lesson I learned. Raise time came around and I didn't get one. Rather than getting upset, I simply assumed that my definition of good enough was different than theirs and stepped up my game. I ended up doing about double my required weekly workload along with helping out with other stuff around the office. I was able to maintain that without burning out so I figured I would be a lock for a raise. After about four months, I got the reward for my efforts. The regional manager worked out of our office and was well aware of my efforts. After about four months, he decided that I clearly didn't need my full 40 hours to do my job so he ordered my boss to cut my hours. That was the last day I ever gave anything more than the bare minimum at that place.
My mom always said “employers whip the horses that pull.” I was also told by an employer that if you do your job well, they will keep you there because they won’t be able to find anyone to do your shit job as good as you, and the other thing is, if you do your job too well, you are a threat to upper management. They’re afraid you will take THEIR jobs. Lesson from ALL of this is-do the bare minimum. If you have a strong work ethic like me, and you hate the day going slow, like me, and you have a lot of empathy and think you’re doing a good thing helping coworkers out, STOP!! Retrain your brain. There’s no such thing as teamwork at jobs. Another thing my mom told me; “your coworkers are not your friends”. Don’t trust your coworkers. They will throw you under the bus, every chance they get.
Another example of the old saying, "No good deed goes unpunished."
There was a story where someone acted manger of store, when asking for a the role official, was told not good enough and to do thier job. So they did just their job and owners complained how no-one was doing schedules and accepting deliveries
I remember that that story. I believe Rslash covered it way back when.
"I meant you're not qualified to get the pay raise. You still have to do the job dummy"
@drl5002 that's not the point. It's the principal of it.
@Cathrope1 not sure what you're talking about. I was quoting a line from a reddit story that fits well with the original comment.
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Actually probably the principle of it....?
Had this happen. My boss said I was "too good at my current job to be promoted" to a promised position. So I dropped a resignation letter on his desk and went back to college for a Master's Degree. A few years later I saw my former boss when I lead a tour of my former facility for the Internal Improvements Engineering Team of a much larger company I was employed by. He asked me for a job. Turned out he was "too good at his job to be promoted" and had been forced to take a pay cut and a lower status position.
No, I did not help him jump ship.
I thought she was gonna say "she has more experience, but i have to train her?"
Same. If you're better than me, why should I train you?
@@giovanmorabonilla6400 not "better" just more experience
@@HawksDieselhe has more experience in being worse
Likely the training is on the company systems and stuff like that, but that doesn't diminish the overall theme of the skit
@@Xyler94 You still can't expect someone who baked the cake and then got denied the cake to show someone who wasn't involved in the process how to cut and eat the cake.
I had been in the Lead roll in my office during Covid so for an entire year I ran the office, they hired in a younger girl, gave her the pay and the title and wanted me to train her. I refused and they wrote me up! Everyone kept coming to me for all their problems and questions, I told them to go to the team lead and I was again written up for not being a team player. I shortly left after that and the office fell apart and that girl they replaced me with quit! I learned you don’t work for free meaning if they want you to be anything different than what you were hired for then get a new contract! This hiring outside for workers is garbage! You cannot do that to people! I left during Christmas! I decorated the ENTIRE office with my personal decorations and when I left I took everything down and told my replacement..have fun! It was a Dental office. But to have me train somebody to do what I had been doing, gave her a raise and then write me up because this girl had no clue what she was doing but was better qualified? She was 22! I was 48! It should be illegal!
Companies deserve about as much loyalty as they give their employees.
None. Zip. Zero. Nada.
Its funny, when I apply for a job that I'm qualified for, they "hired someone internally" but as soon as I work for a company and try to move up, they go external to hire.
Happened to me, working at a Franchise for McD's. All the Managers quit and we had the McDonald's corporate inspection coming up. I lead the team and got the store from a 3 C to a 2 AA & B store.
The District Manager Mitch gave the position to his Wife and she was running both stores in our College town. I resigned and moved. I few years later I was interviewing for Management position and when I walked in the old District Manager was there. He apologized for what happened and told me he divorced the wife. Then he said, the position was mine on the spot. 😂😂😂. I told him No, thank you. You only get to screw me once and not marry me.
I once had a job where they kept telling me "it's not in your job description" when I'd ask to be trained to take on more responsibilities. One day they told us we'd have to stay late for a few weeks to catch up as we were chronically understaffed. I told them i couldn't do ANYTHING beyond what is clearly written in my employment contact as part of my expected duties and that they had spent almost a year reinforcing this.
I had worked 24 years in engineering and machinery and also car repairs / restoration and ex employer went with a 20 years old fresh out of collage and put him as head manager 🤦 I left and the place went bankrupt a year later because I was the only one who was doing anything. Some employers are just that stupid.
You would have commanded a too high salary. That's why you didn't get it. It's a cost saving exercise. These sort of thing annoys the hell outta me
Probably because you were making them too much money in your role. They should have just offered you an assistant to do scheduling & other non-skilled tasks for you, and bumped up your pay.
This exact scenario absolutely happens
Every day, someplace.
I was laid off to make the books look better for a sale as I was highest paid and original engineer... 1 week later they asked me to do freelance work at a ridiculous pay for them as I was the only one who knew the entire system. I just hung up the phone.
Constantly. And it's stupid.
Happened to me, i stopped doing all the extra things i did to make the shift go smoothly, and it all went to shit
Happened to me working retail lol.
This happened to my old department actually. Our old supervisor retired and so while they looked for someone else to fill the role, they had another supervisor from elsewhere in the company step up and help us out. He was great, and we all vouched for him to retain the position permanently, but instead, 3 months later, they pulled in some bonehead from outside to take the position. The outside hire creeped out the girls in our department and eventually got himself arrested for sexual misconduct about a month after I quit
I was doing my current job but as a contractor as the place couldn't create the position yet. Everyone else had to work weekends but my particular position was just Monday through friday. I wanted the position i was already working but someone else who actually works for the company was showing interest first and in all fairness they do look at already hired people first (that's fair). They knew though i wanted the job i was already doing. I was then asked if i would train them if they took the position. My only response was "do you ask the turkey to set the table at Thanksgiving"
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Ohh ohh ohhh that last line was awesome! 😎 I have screen shot this...
Gobble, Gobble!🦃🤣
Always put yourself in a position of power as an employee. Have a 6 month emergency fund and pay off all of your consumer debt. Then you’ll never be afraid to quit if need be.
I did, I had to, and it was great. I also had a job in my back pocket with a former manager, now the VP of development at a 500 person company. I called him up, said is that standing offer still standing he said yes, I said I'll be there 8AM tomorrow - and quit a job I'd had for 13 years and for which the first 11 years were the best years of my career. But some key people left, the company changed. The last 2 years was watching everything start to crumble.
You are wise. Yup. Living large is how one gets trapped in a bad job.
I took over the role of head buyer at a company I worked with. I had no experience but the company offered to train me for the position and I went back to school to get training in purchasing.
I wasnt payed nearly as much as the role deserved.
When I asked my boss to get a raise after a few years in that rôle. He told me to finish my deploma and once qualified we can talk...
About a year later. I finish the training. Got my deploma and went to see him to have me salary adjisted since now I had the experience and training. I wasnt a rookie anymore...
He told me it wasn't a good time since thr company was having financial issues and we would need to talk in the next years review...
Yeah... 2 months later I left.
Fuck that
I was working as a mechanical maintenance engineer at a large meat processing plant. The Chief engineer came down with a serious ailment (died after 18 months). I filled in for that time.
They then advertised for a replacement. My application was not considered (no interview) and they hired a Civil engineer with no experience in the industry. I was told I could train him up!
Then they increased my hours from 42 hr week to 48hr permanently. I asked for more money but as I was on salary they said no and if I didn't like it there is the gate.
What they didn't realise is that I had applied for a job elsewhere and accepted a couple of days later. So about that gate.........
They lacked humour of the situation and escorted me off the premises. The good thing about that is they still had to pay me for 3 weeks and I started at the new place the following week.
The factory closed down a couple of years later. I wasn't the only one being treated badly. Keeping staff was difficult.
Been there. I had to train someone for my job before I was moved to inferior work.
The trainee was a "lad" that appealed to the management. He was an idiot though, I was asked to do overtime to do what he failed to, but I refused. In 3 months I had my old job back, but never forgot or forgave management.
Fornication upon thee, and upon the horse in upon which thou didst ride.
I have to remember this! Much more elegantly put for a professional workplace. 😂
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I was made Assistant Manager at a well-known pizza place back in the 90's. I did everything that was asked of me. Then one day, I'm just NOT the Assistant Manager anymore and another employee was given the role. To this day, I have no clue what I did wrong or why I wasn't doing the job anymore. They didn't even have the courtesy to tell me. I had another job by the end of the week and quit. Bye 👋.
“With all due respect, Janet, I’d rather sell my a** on OBT!”
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A co-worker at the company I worked at left to be a supervisor over a lot of hourly employees. Of course he was salaried. He eventually found that he was expected to be there about 60 hours a week. He could not go to church on Sunday because that was when they take apart the machinery for cleaning. It was much more than he was making but doing the math he made less than the workers below him. He quit 2 weeks later.
"She just has more experience"
"Then why does she need to be trained?"
More experience than someone who has been in that position in the company for 9 months?
Been there. Seen that. Punished for being good. Then they cry when you leave.
Had the same issue. They had me take "my turn" sitting in the big seat for 5 months while our "new supervisor" who was out on medical. Got asked to get him up to speed. I did. He got firedfirst day of a major project. Had to fill in again and applied for it. Didnt get it, got asked to train the guy who had quit another department, left for an outside job and came back to take the position. I declined and put in for another job, quit, and heard he quit first day of another major million dollar project. 😂 Then heard other people were quittng afyer I left. 😂
Sometimes they bring the new boss in as a trainee, or "consultant" who "shadows" you and who you train before they tell you that it's your new boss. FYI. If the new candidate or consultant is asking too many questions about how you do your job, have your resume ready. Sometimes they have the new person come in for a couple weekends looking over how you do the job without you there. Not much you can do about that.
Like when Gus made Gail shadow Walter White at work, everyone dies every time.
More like Tom in office space freaking out about the consultants.
There is something you can do. You can do everything wrong, and when you're eventually replaced, the new person looks incompetent.
The variation of this is where you're asked to make a list/document of everything you do. It usually means they're looking to eliminate you.
"No I'm not doing that" and get up and walk out the door. I walked out in the middle of a shift for something similar. D-m-no's. Acting GM for six months.
If she’s qualified for the role within the company. She should already be able to carry out the role that she has been recruited for. So there’s no need for her to be trained by someone who wasn’t qualified for that same position in the company.
Trained = indoctrinated.
Someone higher needs to do the training, not someone who is going to be the subordinate. Subordinates don't train managers.
@drl5002 you'd be surprised how much 'up managing' goes on!
Sadly I've been in that situation. I was promised the position, and then was asked to train someone from another department to take over as my department head 😂. Joke's on them, sink or swim on your own. I don't train people who outrank me.
This actually happened to me years ago where the job that I was doing was feeling in for the original employee who might I add walked off the job as in "no call no show" for days before just abruptly quitting over the phone. I was assistant to her. Naturally, I figured it was an opportunity for me to apply for her spot since I'd been doing not only my job but hers as well. The new manager of the department decided to break the news to me that they had decided to hire someone else externally. The very next day, I went in with my resignation a f made sure to let it be known that it was "per the discussion that we had the day before" and she certainly was not expecting that and neither were my colleagues who I wqs plating assistant to at the time. I didn't know what they took me for but a fool, I was not.
Extra points to Veronica for having her Resignation Letter filled out and ready to send.
I can see her making backups of database files containing previously submitted resignation letters, searchable and easily cross-referenced. Just incase a company tries to pull a legal stunt to deny her benefits.
This exact scenario happened to me, 35 years ago.
The person they hired, that I was supposed to train, quit the first day, when they found out that I had quit, rather that train them, to do the job I was already doing.
The General Manager begged me to come back.
After a long negotiation, I agreed to come back, for a 75% pay raise.
I stayed for another two years, before leaving for a BETTER job.
Hired for a job. First day I was introduced to my "assistant " and asked to train her. After just a few hours she told me that she was hired for the job I was hired for. When I asked the boss what was going on, he said yes, he had another role in mind for me after I trained her. I don't know who trained her after I walked out on my second day. They obviously didn't have anyone if they hired me to do it.
I always wonder what the end goal is in situations like this. Do they just expect people to stay after being given the runaround like that? How do they expect people to trust them after a stunt like that? Idiots.
Everytime they ask Veronica does she have a minute Veronica would click them keys quick before she allow them to speak to her.
I LOVE your stories! Thank you So much!
This exact thing happened to me.. my boss quit suddenly and 4 out of 5 staff members also quit. I took over his position. I rehired and trained all new staff. I worked six days a week twelve hours a day for 5 months. Then they told me that a man from a sister company was coming in and taking my position. They had planned this all along. But they let me work my ass off, do all the hard work, then told me. Instead of quitting, i quiet quit. This was before it was a thing. My new boss came in and I spent my days basically surfing the internet for the next four years. F them.
A-B-L: Alwaays Bee Loooking for a better opportunity.
This very situation led to my early retirement. Don’t regret it a bit.
I was working for the federal government. I was the only person closing out projects in our area office in addition to other tasks. I got excellent reviews for years but minimal bonuses and never was promoted. When I was out sick, recovering from shoulder surgery, my supervisor went looking for an internal hire for that promotion, not nationally like he was supposed to but internally through the district new letter. I was not informed of the opening.
I found out that I was denied a chance at competing for the promotion at a group meeting AFTER I came back from sick leave. I immediately started looking for a promotion outside our organization, got it and after a year retired. My old supervisor was flaming mad at me and thought that I would never leave. I am so glad I retired.
If Veronica was "too good" at her cureent position to promote her to a higher position she clearly demonstrated being qualified for, then the company should've promoted Veronica to that higher position, hired a replacement for Veronica's current position and had Veronica train THAT person!
LOL! issue can also be companies promote people in title only. No increased wages, or they change the titles of everyone in the department. From Sales rep to "account sales manager" Same job, different title, but now all the reps have the title as "manager"
That would make too much sense, because the company wants to keep Veronica's expertise at a lower rate of pay. Years after I retired, there was a dispute over shift work, which we did about half of the time. A former colleague called me up and asked me to go through the schedules for the last three years to determine how much more day shift time the person who claimed to need accommodation for a medical condition was getting. I said, "My rate is $500 an hour with a 10 hour minimum, paid in advance, and it's level of effort.", meaning that I get paid for my time even if I don't find anything useful. He hung up the phone and I never heard from him again.
This exact thing happened to my aunt. Was a secretary for years and the office manager left. She picked up the slack, did it for months, then they hired someone else and asked her to train them. She quit cause fuck that noise
I actually had this happen to me working for a large corporate company. I left shortly after and come to find out they laid off the entire department I worked in shortly after I left. I ended up in a new career field where I landed a six-figure salary!
I couldnt finish watching... real life experience. 😂 im laughing, but just barely.
I am in exactly this position at the moment.
Unfortunately, I’m not in a position to resign yet
May opportunity open its doors to you & you get the job you deserve and the pay you've worked for!
That’s the one unrealistic part about these shorts-few people actually have the ability to resign.
its really depends on the state of the economy. In booming times its much easier to quit & get a new jobs fast, but not now as the economy is in a recession & employers are laying off workers.
Where is that happening? I’m out here on a job (instead of doing my own) because the new guy called in his second week… we’ve been continuously shorthanded for over two years- can’t find anyone that can show up consistently for even two weeks….
consider that you are already fired...
They have tried this on me at multiple jobs when i was younger 😂😂 refused to train anyone and quit shortly after.
This is so well done my neck started to twitch. That's why I'm a farmer now.
In Alabama, a company can fire you without notice of any kind and don't even have to give you a reason, but if you quit without giving a 2-week notice, they have the right to put you on a "do not rehire" list. A dept director tried to tell me such a list didn't exist; that it was illegal. Then I showed him the last paragraph of the job discription for a position I was asking him about. It's clearly spelled out.
"So someone who's never worked here before, has more experience then I, in a role I've been doing for nine months? Well if that's the case then really you don't need me to train them. They must know the role better then I do if they have more experience in it then me."
I would add: always BCC your personal email because once you are let go or quit, you have no backup documentation
I gave 110% to a job 15 years ago. A new hire got promoted over Mr because I was "indispensable" in my current role. I quit on the spot. I opened my own business and now make 10x more than the position I wanted. Everyone can do it if you are willing to put all the effort you gave to an ungrateful corporation into yourself instead.
This literally happened to my friend he did his job and the manager's job for 6 months. Then they told him oh we're not hiring you we hired someone else and wanted him to train the guy. He stayed on and did train the guy that didn't know like anything but he started looking for another job and and left. I told him that place was crap and to leave a long time ago they were always taking advantage of him
They kept stringing me along after promising me the position, then all of a sudden they told me that they found a great external candidate that checked all the boxes. Then they come telling me about how the training schedule would work and how long. I'm like and you're telling me this because? Well we figured that it would take you that long to train her since your so familiar with the job and we want her to be trained properly. Oh I'm not doing that. What do you mean? I'm not training anyone. Why wouldn't you train her? Apparently, I'm not good enough for the position so why on Earth would I be training yalls new hire? Well it's nothing against you it's just a business decision. Well it is personal for me, you don't have to beat me over the head to tell me I'm not good enough, since y'alls actions just proved that. The big boss turned her ass around and walked out of my office. Then they get HR involved and I told her the same thing. I am not a trainer. If you want me to be a trainer then pay me trainer money. You can't force me to train anyone,because training is not in my job description. I don't have to train anyone to do anything. They said ok thank you and I walked out. They were trying to train the lady and didn't know what the hell they were doing. I just kept my mouth shut. I lasted like 2 months after that.
An external hire can’t possibly be more experienced in that specific position at that specific company than the person who has been doing the job for the past 9 months.
Wow....This is freakish because the exact same thing happened to me. They didn't want to increase my salary and they paid the other employee who was over me, less than I was making. To make things worse, I continued to do both jobs for a year because that person didn't care to learn.
Same here. 7 months taking over the job of TWO full-timers as a temp. Applied for the job, was declined and asked to train a 19 year-old (sweet girl - no fault of hers) to do the job. Poor thing quickly realised why I hadn't been given the job to begin with. She lasted 4 months and transferred to another department due to mobbing. Too bad. I loved the actual work (or I wouldn't have applied at all - the pay wasn't amazing). I wish the "mobber" all of the Karma she deserves. Unless, of course, she has changed her ways.
Likely because of the Temp Agency Buyout system. For a Temp to get hired the temp agency demands an astronomical fee.
"The percentage a staffing agency charges can range from 20% to 30% of the annual salary, depending on the role's complexity and the market. Payment is due upon placement."
@@guytech7310 You might be right in many cases. I have heard of that. In my case, it didn't apply. My following post became permanent. And I applaud that sweet young woman who switched departments: At her age, I wouldn't have had the courage.
😂❤you tell her Veronica......I wanna see Veronica in a boss roles too😊
This episode has been going on for a long time with me at my current company, and the HR, the lawyers of the company, and the EEOC are no help at all. This is disgusting behavior from the company. I train no more new employees of the company to let the managers do it.
This isn't about promotion betrayal per se, but more about terrible communication. Veronika might have turned out to not be functioning optimal in the position, but that is something to talk about one-on-one. Give feedback on where she is still learning and give advice. If she doesn't grow into the position enough, then you talk this through. What you don't do is all of a sudden drop that someone else has been hired already. An email saying they're going in a different direction is not at all sufficient.
ok you start on an incorrect assumption. 'Tis is a given that veronica is doing THE job.
The proof is the request to train the replacement. I'll give you credit for knowing to hire for veronika's former position.
Veronica is Bad B##%%!! and I just love her!!❤❤❤
Something similar happened to me at my job. I was passed over for 2 people who had less than half my experience combined. I was asked to still help them with the stuff from the prior position that they hadn’t learned yet. I told them no.
THIS is why good smart employees WALK AWAY and DO NOT work for crap companies when they can! Corporate leaders ONLY need to look at themselves or the crap managers they put in charge!
It kinda happened to me a couple of years back and it really leaves a very big hole in their head resulting to my promotion which i accepted then resigned after a year.
I had this happen to me. I was working a temp job and I was told they were making my position permanent. All the staff were telling me that I was getting the job, but instead, they hired someone else and expected me to train them.
I had this happen. I walked out 2 days b4 inventory. I got your 2 wks notice 😌
If I train them, I don’t answer to them.
Good for you, Veronica! You should have left this job ages ago. Hope you get a better one. I was promised, not promotion, but a better office, nicer manager, more interesting job. I had to train a 16-year-old office junior to do my present job. Then the whole thing was scrapped. And they wondered why I left, and they only praise you properly when you're leaving. You go, girl!!
This literally happened to me.
You forgot the part where the boss asks, "Well are you or aren't you a 'team player'?"
Yeah the team is Me.
@azmodanpc exactly! 💯
Happens all the time or they’ll just fire you. Happened to me.
If the other person has more experience then why would she need to train her?
My first job out of college, I applied for an opening, something I’d help with from time to time. The hiring manager told me that they went with someone else but she wanted me to train the newbie. Newbie quit after a few weeks and the manager offered me the job. I declined. Then she went to my new manager (because my duties were absorbed into the new group) and my new manager also denied her request.
This is the strategic trap. The sad part is the manager makes sense too. It may literally be easier to replace the manager than the person doing the work. What the dumb butts in management always expect is that you are powerless and will clam down. The director above me took credit when I covered my boss not being there. When I got the next job offer, I took the small pay cut and left.
I get Veronica's frustration. Dealt with similar $#!+ during my Army career.
I have seen that happen so often...
That's how it's done Veronica 🙌🏽
I’ve seen this happen before and this is the least violent reaction to happen.
The story of my life I quit my last job for this exact reason. Best decision I ever made 🖕🏼
Typical bosses! They'd rather hire someone from outside than spending the money to keep the person who's been handling it!
Please also accept this resignation effective immediately. So reinvigorating.
Let me give you a comment from a different perspective: When I worked as a security guard, I was acting site supervisor at one post for a time. The company I worked for had me train an outside hire(actually, another guard who was brought in from outside) as site supervisor, and had me train the person who would replace me as permanent site supervisor. However, I didn't mind training my replacement, as I didn't actually want to be site supervisor, but was willing to help out. I could see her side of things, but not everyone wants to be a supervisor...
Folks that don't want to be supervisor typically don't take on temporary supervisor responsibilities.. for any reason..
@@chernobyl169 I would have taken on the supervisor role permanently if they asked, but would never pursue it...
Not everyone wants to be a supervisor, sure, I don't want to be one either. But then I'd be stuck at my current paycheck.
That make sense, you didn’t want the job and is ok. In the example she wanted the promotion but wasn’t qualified… but she is to train a better qualified person… odd 😂
i hear you, a team leader asked if I wanted to do a supervisor job. The problem was that the branch had a habit of hiring immigrants who did not speak our language and were women unfriendly. I already knew the chance of getting a group like that was high and I have no desire to lead a bunch of manbabies who just tell me my place was in the kitchen or the bedroom. plus getting crap from the higher up when the work was not done because they refuse to listen.
Love Veronica!!! Simulator situation in real life!
I've been told this bullshit before. The person they promoted was fired because of massive mistakes and then rehired. They promoted her over me because of "experience". I've since moved on and have a role I deserve.
Verinco should get promoted!
Cool to work with we ❤
Yep I if was in the position where I could find another job easily if tis took place I would be gone too. Many times folks in this position are good enough that someone at another place will take them on right away
That's a sorry freaking outfit that refuses to promote someone from within the company. I'd walk too!!
My mother in law worked at a grocery store for 30 years. She was more than qualified for the job. She told me they would never hire her as a manager because shes a woman. Every time they needed to hire a new manager, she got to be the one to train them.
Yup that’s what happened to my aunt .. she walked off the job !!
This is a often told story and although sad.... people need to remember that the only thing that keeps you in a job is how much of an asset to a boss you are or how much of a chance of a lawsuit there is if they let you go.
"We're going in a different direction" AKA "screw you"
I had that happen.... I told them to train him.... then walked.
Resignation letter? Bravo Sierra. Just get up and walk out then.
If the new person is more qualified, why would Veronica need to train them?
As someone who was called a "workhorse" (in writing)who had to be kept in my current position, I understand.
Gotta love Veronica!
Veronica!!! Thank you