Backyard Chevy I ended up doing the exact same thing as you although I wanted to use rivets for the motor as well. But none I had would hold. Not sure why it has a small tap when I lift or lower regulator might be off but NO HOLES!
Did u look at how it moved with the door panel off by any chance?...as long as theres no play anywhere...normally it tends to be a problem with the adjustment of one of the rollers.
Those roller guides, itll either be the short one towards the back that's horizontal or the rear vertical one in back...u loosen the nuts and itll change the angle with the slight difference...itll most likely be one of the two.
This is called doing it the right way. I commend you for not doing the half-assed way with holes drilled in your door sir.👍 These gems are gonna be a rare commodity down the road so it’s best to keep your TA repaired like this guy does it.
Backyard Chevy Keep doing things this way my dude. These Pontiacs are the best cars of their era with the appearance and performance combo. WS6s and even older models with LT1s like mine are cars that’ll never get old like C4s and ugly plain Jane Z28s did.
This is the best video on YT that shows how to do this task! I watched this video (with the sound turned all the way down ;-)) several times before I did this job! Great detail! If you follow these instructions carefully, you can do this job in a couple of hours! I used a motor already attached to the regulator. Worked well for me. Thanks for posting! You forgot to show the removal of the horizontal track, but I figured it out. All is forgiven!
About to replace my driver side regulator. Passenger just needed a motor... THANK YOU for taking the time to put this together. Will be extremely helpful. Also I dig the music! Oddly relaxing despite the intricacies of the task
Glad to be able to help🙂 thank you🙂 yea ive gotten a lot of dislike for the music i would put in my first videos..its nice to have someone else like it.
Thank you very much for the video. I used the four small screws and nuts to attach the motor, it came with four 1/4 inch screws and nuts for the door. But I went to Harbor Freight and bought the rivet tool for $17 and it came with the 1/4 inch rivets I needed. Took me like 1 hour to get it all done. Thanks.
Thank you so much for the video.. It was a time saver and if you are gonna spend the time putting in a motor, why NOT just do the assembly and be finished. Thanks again for your work.
Really appreciate it..thank you so much🙂, yea i definitely prefer it myself, some people dont like their cars with holes all over, it gives people an option to not to.
Holy crap is this a TOUGH one man job!! Holding the window up (all slimey from the regulator grease) and aligning those four 1/4" rivets was very difficult and I've been a mechanic for over 50 years.Lots of cuts on my hands . Grr. Hope to never do another one of these..and if I do I'll get help! Thanks for the video..I would have never thought it was this involved.
This the best video I've seen as far as replacement window motor. Only trouble was trying to find rivets to mount the regulator back on the door. I found some screws and work good.
Thanks for this video, really good look in to how to do the work. Good focus on what important and that is something you dont see everyday. I even started to like the music :)
Man I don’t know how I spent all day trying to put that damn motor in then I came across this video and am ready to try tomorrow thinking I’ll get it right he show how many times to wind it back on the spring
You can use small bolts and nuts to replace the rivets; don't have to drill it out next time. Small piece of tape at bottom of window, to the rubber wiper, keeps window from falling when set at working height; window gravity, pinches the tape to the rubber wiper.
@@backyardchevy328 It took me quite awhile, because I don't usually work on my own cars... but I've started to, as I keep buying older cars, and channels like yours are a godsend.
How is the spring supposed to sit on the window regulator?? I am trying to install mine tomorrow and I don’t know how the little spring is supposed to be positioned??? Thank you!
what am i looking for when you say press here and slide back? where on the door is it? I can't figure out what I'm looking at. Thank you so much for the video.
Adding for clarification. Do I need to center the motor prior to install on the regulator frame. Since the old motor isn’t running how do I insure the posistion of the travel range of the motor to match to the new one prior to install, or just get the new motor close to center and install?
The center of the motor slides into the round hole on the regulator assembly and that centers it..and the motor lines up to 3 bolt holes where the rivets were removed..as far as the travel, the regulator is what sets the motors limit as far as travel.
Is there a way to use bolt/safety nut to install the regulator back inside the door and not rivets? I assume these china motors will need replacement again. Are you suppose to use some lube or grease on those tracks and wheels?
Well u would need to get behind the nut to hold it and unfortunately it will have to be a short bolt so it doesnt stick out in the back affecting the travel of the mechanism...and yes youll wanna lubricate the wheels and tracks
When installing the new motor, do the drive teeeth need to match the vertical position of the window position when it was removed? How does the motor know when to stop in either direction and cut the power to stop without over, or under driving the window stop?
The motor has unlimited travel to spin in either direction when its off the regulator..but when u bolt it up to the regulator, the regulator has a stop position going up and stop position going down that stops the motor from traveling any further.
It is sooooooooooooooo much easier to just drill the holes and just replace the motor without doing all this... the whole process from removing the door panel, drilling holes remvoing and installing new motor and installing back the door panel took me around 35min and the window stood in place too
Lol..yea it definitely is a lot easier...but some people when they got a collectors edition ws6 or Camaro SS some prefer to avoid having holes cut...so this video just gives people the option.
I purchased the motor/regulator combo set. The spring on the new regulator only half the size of the spring on the original set. The rollers on the new regulator don't look as well made as the originals either. Do you know why that is? Would you recommend putting the new motor on the original regulator, or putting the old spring on the new regulator? Should the new regulator have come with grease for the moving parts?
I always feel its better to use the original parts because the replacement regulator and spring are probably made of cheaper material, yea if it doesnt come with grease youll wanna lubricate the rollers the gear and the teeth for smoother operation and longer life.
The other method doesn't look so bad one you have one that was done this way but with out the proper rivets to go back together. I'll just continue the drill mod and save my time.
Yea unfortunately it was one of my first videos and i put music on all my first videos thinking it was a common thing, but quickly realized it wasnt..so i got rid of the music on all my current and more recent videos.
@@backyardchevy328 I replaced the window motor, now it only works if I wiggle the electrical connector and hold it in place. Likely a loose wiring harness? And the window switch works in reverse, i.e I press it down and the window rolls up, I press it up and the window rolls down. Have you dealt with that before?
@@moparguy5876 means either the connector was installed in reverse or the motor if its remanufactured was built improperly..i had that happen with a headlight motor
@@backyardchevy328 I'd hate to think both window motors I bought were faulty, one was AC Delco, one was doorman. And I didn't know the connector could be installed upside down
Loosely followed this video but didn't watch the part about the spring before I drilled the motor off the bracket. Almost lost a pinky finger. Be careful guys!
It probably would but the whole assembly may move if it doesnt pull tight enough but worse would be if rear part of rivet comes out hole .probably wouldnt be worth the risk
Had to hit mute after 15 seconds, couldn't tolerate the noise that sounds like babies being dismembered alive with a chainsaw!!!!! If gaining views is the idea, why add such atrocious noise that will surely repel most viewers?
Yeah same. It sounded horrible, I had to turn that crap down. Otherwise, an appreciable effort. I've never done one of these window lift motors, so good to see the "other" option 1st. I'll check out the drill out method now. My car has no real value other than it looks great... So I may use the drill out... we'll see.
@@FTsingos you'll have to adjust the tracks, it has that short one that goes horizontal and then the long one that goes up and down..they have room to be adjusted, thats the reason why its not operating smooth and it keeps making that noise, just mess with the adjustments see which one helps it.
This is by far the best video so far when it come to doing this replacement for those who don't want to hack up their car
Thank you..i appreciate it:)
Backyard Chevy I ended up doing the exact same thing as you although I wanted to use rivets for the motor as well. But none I had would hold. Not sure why it has a small tap when I lift or lower regulator might be off but
NO HOLES!
Did u look at how it moved with the door panel off by any chance?...as long as theres no play anywhere...normally it tends to be a problem with the adjustment of one of the rollers.
Backyard Chevy I'll have to take a look. Now that you mention it it does sound like a roller. How would I go about fixing that?
Those roller guides, itll either be the short one towards the back that's horizontal or the rear vertical one in back...u loosen the nuts and itll change the angle with the slight difference...itll most likely be one of the two.
This is called doing it the right way. I commend you for not doing the half-assed way with holes drilled in your door sir.👍 These gems are gonna be a rare commodity down the road so it’s best to keep your TA repaired like this guy does it.
Thank you🙂...yea i dont like making holes especially on the ws6 models so i prefer this method
Backyard Chevy Keep doing things this way my dude. These Pontiacs are the best cars of their era with the appearance and performance combo. WS6s and even older models with LT1s like mine are cars that’ll never get old like C4s and ugly plain Jane Z28s did.
@@Kirill4Hart yes definitely...thank you
Best replacement video on UA-cam. Thanks for not destroying your door. Exactly what I was looking for
The hand position at the end with the lock…You’re a damn legend sir.
Thank you buddy🙂👍
This is the best video on YT that shows how to do this task! I watched this video (with the sound turned all the way down ;-)) several times before I did this job! Great detail! If you follow these instructions carefully, you can do this job in a couple of hours! I used a motor already attached to the regulator. Worked well for me. Thanks for posting! You forgot to show the removal of the horizontal track, but I figured it out. All is forgiven!
About to replace my driver side regulator. Passenger just needed a motor... THANK YOU for taking the time to put this together. Will be extremely helpful.
Also I dig the music! Oddly relaxing despite the intricacies of the task
Glad to be able to help🙂 thank you🙂 yea ive gotten a lot of dislike for the music i would put in my first videos..its nice to have someone else like it.
Thank you very much for the video. I used the four small screws and nuts to attach the motor, it came with four 1/4 inch screws and nuts for the door. But I went to Harbor Freight and bought the rivet tool for $17 and it came with the 1/4 inch rivets I needed. Took me like 1 hour to get it all done. Thanks.
Thats awesome...so glad it worked out:) Thank you for the support:)
Thank you so much for the video.. It was a time saver and if you are gonna spend the time putting in a motor, why NOT just do the assembly and be finished. Thanks again for your work.
Really appreciate it..thank you so much🙂, yea i definitely prefer it myself, some people dont like their cars with holes all over, it gives people an option to not to.
Holy crap is this a TOUGH one man job!! Holding the window up (all slimey from the regulator grease) and aligning those four 1/4" rivets was very difficult and I've been a mechanic for over 50 years.Lots of cuts on my hands . Grr. Hope to never do another one of these..and if I do I'll get help! Thanks for the video..I would have never thought it was this involved.
This the best video I've seen as far as replacement window motor. Only trouble was trying to find rivets to mount the regulator back on the door. I found some screws and work good.
Thank you🙂 yea i would get the rivets here locally at a hardware store
@@backyardchevy328 I tried the hardware stores locally but no one carried them so I tried the bolts and nuts I had and so far so good
@@johnniepitts7393 yea they should work good..i think adding some loctite to em so they dont loosen would help also
Bro, your video has been the best one of many i've seen. 👍👍
Thank you🙂
Thank you soooooo much for this video now my Windows work!
Thank you for watching and congrats I'm sure they turned out great:)
Thanks for this video, really good look in to how to do the work. Good focus on what important and that is something you dont see everyday. I even started to like the music :)
Thanks, video was very helpful in replacing my window motor the right way.
That's awesome..good job🙂 thank you
Came here for the music. Left with a new window motor installed.
Man I don’t know how I spent all day trying to put that damn motor in then I came across this video and am ready to try tomorrow thinking I’ll get it right he show how many times to wind it back on the spring
Hopefully it helps u out to get it back on:) good luck
You can use small bolts and nuts to replace the rivets; don't have to drill it out next time.
Small piece of tape at bottom of window, to the rubber wiper, keeps window from falling when set at working height; window gravity, pinches the tape to the rubber wiper.
Yes that could work too..good tips
Yep. Gaffers (stage) tape is what I used to hold the window tot he rubber wiper.
Dent repair suction cups on the windows are quick and easy way to keep the window up.
Thank you for this, dude. Seriously helpful.
So glad it was helpful🙂 thank you
@@backyardchevy328 It took me quite awhile, because I don't usually work on my own cars... but I've started to, as I keep buying older cars, and channels like yours are a godsend.
@@Joose Thats awesome! I started on older cars myself and then got into repairing newer cars and became a full time job for me for years.
Finally a good video. Thx
Thank you 🙂
Thank you ❤
Good vid but you should narrate and show places to grease pivot points, channel. Thanks for the non hack way to do it.
Thank you i really appreciate it...yea it was one of my first videos and did forget the greasing of the rollers and rails.
Does anyone know if that black stopper off that verticals slide he took out first is on both doors or just one?
How is the spring supposed to sit on the window regulator?? I am trying to install mine tomorrow and I don’t know how the little spring is supposed to be positioned??? Thank you!
Nevermind, watched the entire video again lol 😂
good video. i seen your video and understand all picture.
Thank you🙂
@@backyardchevy328 Today I tried to install and remove the window lifter and glass. I did it in 10 minutes. Real. Thank your video.
@@user-fe9hc2rw2j thats awesome...great job🙂
The video i needed. Thanks dude.! 💯
Happy to be able to help🙂 thank you
The most difficult way to change a window motor
Bro. Amazing. Thank you thank you.
Thank you🙂
Is there a "Toll booth" option motor for driver side that would also mount on passenger side....for quick up-down operation of power windows ?
if only there was lol
Maybe I saw them on BMW or other lux-sport import...used by commuters.
what am i looking for when you say press here and slide back? where on the door is it? I can't figure out what I'm looking at. Thank you so much for the video.
Its the electrical connection...press on the rear part of the connector connected to the window motor so u can slide the connector off
Adding for clarification. Do I need to center the motor prior to install on the regulator frame. Since the old motor isn’t running how do I insure the posistion of the travel range of the motor to match to the new one prior to install, or just get the new motor close to center and install?
The center of the motor slides into the round hole on the regulator assembly and that centers it..and the motor lines up to 3 bolt holes where the rivets were removed..as far as the travel, the regulator is what sets the motors limit as far as travel.
Is there a way to use bolt/safety nut to install the regulator back inside the door and not rivets? I assume these china motors will need replacement again.
Are you suppose to use some lube or grease on those tracks and wheels?
Well u would need to get behind the nut to hold it and unfortunately it will have to be a short bolt so it doesnt stick out in the back affecting the travel of the mechanism...and yes youll wanna lubricate the wheels and tracks
When installing the new motor, do the drive teeeth need to match the vertical position of the window position when it was removed? How does the motor know when to stop in either direction and cut the power to stop without over, or under driving the window stop?
The motor has unlimited travel to spin in either direction when its off the regulator..but when u bolt it up to the regulator, the regulator has a stop position going up and stop position going down that stops the motor from traveling any further.
It is sooooooooooooooo much easier to just drill the holes and just replace the motor without doing all this... the whole process from removing the door panel, drilling holes remvoing and installing new motor and installing back the door panel took me around 35min and the window stood in place too
Lol..yea it definitely is a lot easier...but some people when they got a collectors edition ws6 or Camaro SS some prefer to avoid having holes cut...so this video just gives people the option.
ABSOLUTELY NO ONE CARES ABOUT 3 HALF INCH HOLES IN A DOOR PANEL THAT NO ONE WOULD ENEN KNOW IF THEY WHERE THERE OR NOT IN THE FIRST PLACE
I purchased the motor/regulator combo set. The spring on the new regulator only half the size of the spring on the original set. The rollers on the new regulator don't look as well made as the originals either. Do you know why that is? Would you recommend putting the new motor on the original regulator, or putting the old spring on the new regulator? Should the new regulator have come with grease for the moving parts?
I always feel its better to use the original parts because the replacement regulator and spring are probably made of cheaper material, yea if it doesnt come with grease youll wanna lubricate the rollers the gear and the teeth for smoother operation and longer life.
The other method doesn't look so bad one you have one that was done this way but with out the proper rivets to go back together. I'll just continue the drill mod and save my time.
"Great music, it really ads", said no-one, ever.
Yea unfortunately it was one of my first videos and i put music on all my first videos thinking it was a common thing, but quickly realized it wasnt..so i got rid of the music on all my current and more recent videos.
LOL HOW BOUT IT
What if the window is stuck all the way down and won't budge? How do you roll it up again to take everything out?
U can drill out the rivets and unbolt the brackets..then maneuver the whole regulator back and forth so the rollers come off the glass rail
@@backyardchevy328 I replaced the window motor, now it only works if I wiggle the electrical connector and hold it in place. Likely a loose wiring harness? And the window switch works in reverse, i.e I press it down and the window rolls up, I press it up and the window rolls down. Have you dealt with that before?
@@moparguy5876 means either the connector was installed in reverse or the motor if its remanufactured was built improperly..i had that happen with a headlight motor
@@backyardchevy328 I'd hate to think both window motors I bought were faulty, one was AC Delco, one was doorman. And I didn't know the connector could be installed upside down
@@moparguy5876 yea then its the connector..thats most likely why it also why it has to be wiggled to work
Loosely followed this video but didn't watch the part about the spring before I drilled the motor off the bracket. Almost lost a pinky finger. Be careful guys!
Yea that spring part is definitely unforgiving
will 3/16 diameter rivet work?
It probably would but the whole assembly may move if it doesnt pull tight enough but worse would be if rear part of rivet comes out hole .probably wouldnt be worth the risk
@@backyardchevy328 thank you. I bought a 1/4 rivet head.
@@FTsingos nice!🙂 good luck hope it all goes smooth
I'm too late
Good video. Horribly designed car. Glad they stopped making these.
Thank you...yea theyre definitely quite a mission to replace window motors.
That guy needs to stop talking, I’ve lost brain cells from watching that video
Drilling is way easier and quicker. Forget this method in this video.
It's just another available option for those who prefer a clean look.
Had to hit mute after 15 seconds, couldn't tolerate the noise that sounds like babies being dismembered alive with a chainsaw!!!!! If gaining views is the idea, why add such atrocious noise that will surely repel most viewers?
It was one of my first video's, unfortunately cant do anything to change it...but all my new videos dont have any of that.
Yeah same. It sounded horrible, I had to turn that crap down. Otherwise, an appreciable effort. I've never done one of these window lift motors, so good to see the "other" option 1st. I'll check out the drill out method now. My car has no real value other than it looks great... So I may use the drill out... we'll see.
i'm at my wit's end. I can't get this to go in. d
What part are u stuck on?
@@backyardchevy328
I finally. Installed it, but the motor doesn't sound right. Can I send you a video? If that isn't much trouble
@@FTsingos not sure there is a way to send me a video..maybe a link to the video..whats it doing?
@@backyardchevy328 ua-cam.com/video/ERZDKg_9ibQ/v-deo.html
@@FTsingos you'll have to adjust the tracks, it has that short one that goes horizontal and then the long one that goes up and down..they have room to be adjusted, thats the reason why its not operating smooth and it keeps making that noise, just mess with the adjustments see which one helps it.
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Please, for the love of god. Get rid of this music
Why the stupid music?
Yea my first videos unfortunately i made the mistake of putting music throughout the video..least all my newer videos i got rid of any of that