Bargaining for fakes in Beijing, China: it doesn't end well
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- Опубліковано 25 бер 2018
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An American bargains with saleswomen at Beijing's famous Silk Street - known for its knock-offs - in a UA-cam video that has gone viral, sparking debate over the high prices asked for fake goods at the market and the forceful ways they are flogged onto foreigners.
Original video: • Beijing Fake Market Sp...
That fake slipper cost more than the original lol!
No wonder it's fake 😂
original is like 30$ in my country lol
sarang kulkarni my country slipper like that only 2$ - 5$ not so expensive right
@@armybtsforeverv5153 yes but i said original bro
@@sarangkulkarni4963 yep new nike slides for 30
Dude, the best bargaining tactic is "leaving the store".
Exactly. Always got my best deals by leaving.
Yea that is my grandma tactics.
As an Asian i confirm!
@@Al-hb2wo Nha, if you leave the store and it doesn't work just dip, why would you return? 😂
yes
I'm from Beijing. I've always wondered why the government looked the other way and kept it open (believe it or not selling knockoffs is not legal in China...). Yes you can find numerous small shops selling knockoffs but rarely in a multi-storey building like this - it almost feels like a themed mall. Then a group of friends from U.S. came to visit and asked for this place. Apparently this has become a rather bizzare tourist attraction for foreigners...
Exactly my thought. I suppose real buyers won't shop there, just adrenaline junkies
because its obviously a fake market, theres a reason it called as fake market, nobody come to fake market to expect Authentic Moncler Jacket in the middle of CHINA
Yes, a lot of tourists go there, maybe some are taken there as a Beijing tourist visit. It's A famous place to visit in Beijing. I sometimes saw coaches lined up outside and groups of people entering. Personally, I always avoided that place, it gave me a headache from being so harassed. Sometimes the sellers even grab you as you are passing. There are different scams in Beijing, like people coming up and asking where you are from. It sounds friendly, but they are trying to take you to a tea place or an 'art place' where they try to cheat you and make you pay a lot of money. You really have to be careful, many tourists are taken for a ride and lose a lot of money.
Have you ever thought that they could bribe the authorities? It's the oldest trick for these kinda businesses.
You'll be surprised how free people are in china
I went here once and I had a massive anxiety attack from all the bargaining.
Got to give the shop owners props for being pretty quick with the English.
they're using the same phrases OVER AND OVER.
try talking to these shop keepers about anything else and it's not easy.
Ask Them About Education 💯
@tomás boy english is the most easy and useful though hundred of country
@tomás and thats the point
@tomás yeeehaw
I think the price that they offered was too much for a knock-off...
Wkwkwk..
Dari 4000 yuan sampe 400 yuan. Ekwkwk.
1 yuan = 1000 an rupiah, kan?
Too high. He paid a lot!
Yeah i think so
You could buy a real adidas shoe
for that price.
yea its like 600ribu rupiah in our country.
I love how she tried everything, then in the end she resorts to flirting to make him pay the full price! 😂 🤦🏾♀️
Lady: "DO YOU WANNA BUY OR NOT?!😡🤬"
Guy: "i do, but now i don't"
Lady: "c'mon give me your best price, you are very handsome, do you have a girlfriend? 😇"
😂
negative charisma
I think she was going to say later, buy shoes for your girlfriend
I would be dead if I have to shop alone in China...
Delvin William dont shop alone they can be very aggressive 😂
Delvin William if u want some company send a ticket for me i will come with u ;)))
Delvin William Can you scratch my back
It's their tecnique. When you're not looking at him/her, he/she is actually laughing. She/he do that to make you feel bad and buy the thing
You've got to have a face of steel. Be ready to argue. These street sellers only care about your money.
I went to Xi'an and purchased a 15 yuan little plastic 'puppet' I suppose you could call it. 2 foreigners wanted one too and the seller told them 200 yuan. I told them of course, but if the price seems really unrealistic and it was, leave or bargain by taking off the majority.
Oh have watched that b4 actually thr girl was just straight bullying him for no reason and laughed at the end
He asked for 200 and she gave 250, because he's very handsome, that was hilarious.
T o g e t h e r N o t ikr
G I V E M E B E S T P R I C E
It's pretty normal here in asia. I usually see my mom does this and now I miss those time xD
"Slipper how much?"
"Slipper 500"
"Five hund- Oof"
You can literally feel the pain and cringe from his voice
"You are so handsome" "You are so tough guy" In china you'd only get complemented when u bargain lol
I always get complimented by my barber wherever i go but i realized they are really just complimenting themselves 😂
This western guy already cultured heavily. Nice
The last one is from 710$ to 65$ and I believe that girl still makes profit
Bao Enlai a fool can pay more for a fake than the price of an original in these kinds of markets yes they will still make profit even if you bargain
Bao Enlai, Of course, NO one will sell without making profit; UNLESS they badly need the money at THAT moment.
Or they are FORCED by other circumstances.
Bao Enlai 1 rule of bargaining ; they wont sell if they dont get profits. that just it
That shot cost 10 bucks to make... all machined. Worth 20 25 max
For sure! Moncler produces in China... she gets the original from the factory without the “brand logo”, et voila 90% cheaper
I gotta learn to bargain like this
Jim Jam in China
And he paid a lot! He could get half price of what he paid!
You should have born in India, Every Indian people know how to bargain
Crypto Boy why do i see every indian comment and praising about their people even when their country is a dirty old shit hole that no one wanna visit
futa I don’t know man, I own a small business , Indians are the only people who bargain on every product I sell. I guess it’s in their blood. And they praise lot about their culture too. I visited India last year , it’s so dirty with all noise pollution. Also I got sick because of street food. Advice to all of you: never visit India, even if you visit ; stay away from street food
That shoes seller is scarier than my teachers combined. loool
This happens like almost every time I visit China. Most of the time, I just stand looking at other things while my parents are yelling with the bargainer 😅
Even originals aren’t that costly
Lol no
It really matters on the versions. The originals can be pretty costs i must say the knock offs looks pretty good but the only real difference is the quality and materials
Many knockoffs are from the same factories as the originals
@@dayrenist really ? Then how are they knock offs?
@@jack604 manufacturing defects/failed QC
" *you know why, you are very handsome, do you have a girlfriend?* " 😅😅😂😂
I almost died on that part😂😂😂
No i dont...maybe im not handsome.
What she(seller) accually wants?want to be his girlfriend?
@@Filmtalkies flatter you so you will feel guilty when you try to refuse her offer.
That is a common way to soften tough costumer heart so that they will be more willing to buy.
"I now give you this price, now see this. You know why? Because you're very handsome. Do you have a girlfriend? "
-Final Boss in China
When I deal with intense people, I get stressed out and just ignore them, I pretend like there is no one and go away. I just can’t. My head goes empty and I literally don’t even pay attention to a single word.
These ladies scared the he k out of me. I could not imagine myself dealing with them. So aggressive like they are going to attack u any time if u don’t buy their products after you bargained. Scary.
Same goes here. It's more stressful to deal with these people. They're scaring me and I just can't. I won't buy these kind of intensity
Oh man Mee too. I dealt with a really aggressive manager once at my apartments and she was telling me about something i did wrong but i just shut off cause she repeated the same thing about three times. I shut off so i walked away without a word and she said something even ruder as i left lol. Like no I'm not trying to be mean i just can't deal
Lol that last lady, “give me your money, you so tough guy” 😂😂
Why I have to give you my money. Are you a robber
the fake Jordan at best should sell around $20-25 usd. at China, whenever they see tourist, they will inflate the price 10-20 times. they same trick cant be applied to the local
Yeah, the same happens if you go to Thailand. They know you aren't local so they inflate the prices and you won't even know unless you speak the language. My parents went to Thailand and experienced it. Since they spoke fluent thai however, the vendor suddenly got friendly and thought they were Thai people so he said that he would give them the normal price(it was much cheaper). Some hotels require a passport identification though so the prices there can get jacked up too.
@@unknownalt5845 3rd world country, thats y.
@@unknownalt5845 literally almost all of the tourism in developing country will inflate the price when foreign tourism come especially for white people
@@user-gc1hg9sp9k Yep
@Daniel Okeke TV yeah as long you look like a foreigner they will inflate the price
My family and I went to Beijing last year and we happen to get to Silk Market. Some saleslady are really rude to the point they were already shouting at us. My dad got really mad because the lady was pointing her finger at me and making racial slurs.
That lady is hilarious, Being very aggressive in the middle and then being very co-operative at the end
Man, those are overpriced. In the philippines you go to a place called divisoria and they sell knock off shoes for like $5. Lol!
True.
Yup
true hahahaha and negotiable😂
Yeah. But they're both fake.
in baclaran , if you buy in retail, its 4 times the price if you buy it by the dozen
I feel so out of breath just by watching this video😂
True I feel like I fought a war
HAHAH true
Lol
I live in Beijing, have done a my fair bit of bargaining. They usually offer high prices to foreigners because there's always a chance we're not familiar with the prices. I bought a SIM card for 80 USD and took taxi for 150 USD, my first week. I'm embarrassed to mention it.😂😂
Bartering can be really boring and the whole point of dressing up and experiencing bartering or haggling is so you get to interact and socialise with people and get a response and reaction until both parties end up being happy about an agreed price. If people don’t like haggling then that’s why some people prefer e-commerce where they just search through a website catalogue and get what they are looking for and get the fark out. Otherwise “window shopping” can get either really pleasant or nasty depending on the interaction.
most of these are knockoffs, and even in america the columbia winter jacks are typically $50 to $200 during black friday wth lol
who the fuck says they are legit?
No shit for a "gucci"
cause it makes them look rich so they can flex on everyone
idk i guess it makes them feel special but to me its no difference
MOST? All of them!
I think that's too expensive for fake products.. that aggressive woman looks like she doesn't sell that much because she's too strong and desperate to sell... well, they're expensive so who would buy them...
Her saying "because your handsome" would be enough to flatter anyone lol genius
Lmao this guy thinks he's getting 90% off but doesn't realize how much they jack up the price from the beginning seeing that he's a foreigner. Even the 350 yuan offer for that winter jacket is absurdly high, he's forgetting how extremely cheap the shop owners get it for.
the guy lives there
I went to shoe shop somewhere in Guangzhou recently and a lady sales assistant approached me and she greeted me with hullo and good bye. So I left the shop immediately , feeling rather confused. An hour later did I realise that maybe she meant good buy. LOL
Seriously???? 😂😂😂
Looool I get it.
Hahahahahaha this is funny! 🤣
OH NOOOOO
Lol
and he still got ripped off.
Never enjoyed bargaining.... It often ends up in stress, anxiety and still feeling being taken for a ride. I remember I touched a fortune cat in one of these shops, the shop owner believes that tampered his luck of fortune and yelled to threaten to beat me up in the store... It is violently scary unless you are blonde with blue eyes then you are a walking money 🎄
This is so true.. we got chased down by the shopowner with her broom, saying we dont have money. We were looking at fake bags which costs more than the original. The worst experience evee
A walking wallet
"Do you know why? You are very handsome."
bruuuuuuh 😂😂😂😂 I'm ded now...
😂
damnn they talk so fast
Thats chinese bargaining style
I think they're somewhat not telling the true price (unless if its beside the product) cuz the guy is not a local.
apple englert he is a local
Somewhat? They mark the price up like 2000% sometimes when they see a white guy at the market.
@@jeffreychou3918 It's not exclusive to white guys, as a Chinese that has gone shopping while back to visit they mark it up lkke crazy too... you're meant to bargain down, no shop owner actually expects you to pay their initial offer. If you do you just be ripping yourself off
Yeah, sometimes if you look rich or dress well they will Increase the price
@@hongers9 If you ever been to North Africa or Central Asia you will learn to haggle for real
They can literally buy original one for that prices like ☠️
I laughed when the man said “Ima alien” XD
You know y you very handsome lmao
Not_ lil Lies that was her last strategy. All others used up . No effect . Lol
Handsome people get discounts and job offers 😡
When did she say that
@@raptorgator 2:42 😂😂😂
@@sakurakou2009
She was still overcharging.
That jordon is at max 20-25 US dollars. They just hike the price if you are foreigner.
“You know why? You’re very handsome Do you have a girlfriend?”
GAHAHA
*I don't know whether she wants to sell those pair of shoes or not...she is absolutely confused!😂😂🤣*
My mom when she is shopping
If Owner says 700
My mom will start at 50 or 100
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I am scared to go street shopping here in Mumbai with my girlfriend or my mom🤣🤣🤣🤣
Me and my friends once went to Delhi.A man followed us for about an hour so we buy his sunglasses.He dropped from 20$ to 0.8$ but we still didn't buy.😂😂
Yep beijing is really scary. ..I went there once and seriously I don't want to go there again...
Why
The ultimate move is act you're going to leave then they will suddenly give you the price you like lol
i love how fake are more expensive than the original but atleast you can get a reallly high discount like 4,500 yuan to 400 yuan like its more than a 90% discount
He paid a lot in both cases!! Are fake! U can buy that things in Taobao for half of the price!
Rodrigo Santibáñez online shopping is always cheaper than in the markets
Taobao for the win 🙌🏾
Bruh u can buy the same thing in Taobao for 95% off
This hahahha. I would at most pay like 100RMB. Even 200RMB was a bit excessive.
Extortion, but the persistence and determination to make the sale is superb 😂😂😂😂
Don't expect to get a fair bargain when you're a foreigner in Asia, no disrespect.
Even in Singapore back in 2004, I was told first that a Hitachi video camera was $4500 initially, then down to $2500 for which I got it.
The next day, I happened to see the same item selling for $2500 for its original price on a singaporean newspaper. I was so upset and went back to him, and he ended up refunding me $700.
I told him that he should be thankful that I did not report him to the police only because he told me the day before that he had a young son to support.
Another woman along a river shop also told me an old and run-down chinese clothes was $10,000 which was a very big money then, and even now.
I wonder why some chinese lie so much to a degree of unbelievability and ruin the Chinese reputation.
It happens all over the world buddy....come to india and pakistan ...you will see same kind of tactics
@@dreambig5965 i got a fake figurine at 200 rs which my sister got at 25 rs
Ugh, this woman is just so persistent. It's annoying me😂
Do you want me to guess!! I guess "no country" lol 😂😂😂 I m an 👽
"No country" "I'm an alien?" ROFL
If you want to avoid a headache, avoid going to Silk Street in Beijing, unless you are the type of person who actually enjoys agressive bargaining and being harassed. Actually, this happens in other places in Beijing too (except for the big stores where prices are marked) but Silk Street is famous for this.
Bargaining and haggling doesn’t just exist in these Asian markets, it can be done in the uk as well! As someone who’s Chinese I watched my mother haggle 2 keys from some old guy for 5 pounds to 1 pound for 2 keys just by leaving and coming around later and asking again. After watching all these haggling vids I’ll actually try the next time I have time to go to the market
Umm maybe it's your mother that bring the Asian Market culture to a seller in UK 😅
sometimes you can even get a 90 percent discount. lol
Should be 99% discount and still don't know if you got ripoffs from it!
Do it 99.9999999999999
Then you would get the actual price of those knock offs
Yep those prices for a knock off knocked me out🤣
There are some other bargaining techniques like
"Oh, the other stall sell cheaper I don't want to buy anymore"
and walking away
"Do you have a girlfriend" lmao
Wow, they put too aggressive prices then here in Algeria. I used to see max around double price, and usually minimum price negotiation may go low to around 70-90% of the shelf price.
This speaks volumes about the audacity of shop owners selling fakes in China. It's beyond me.
-why 250?
-cAuSe yOu ArE hAnDsOmE.
Ok but in their defence, I’ve heard that Chinese tariffs are sky high especially for foreign clothings
I watched a british youtuber who tried to buy fakies in HK and Bali..she commented alot about how different her experience with the sellers..she was willing to pay more/to bargain not far from the asked prices because the Balineses were so polite, smily, and nice while her HK experience was kinda stressful for her..😉
In my experience with my country chinese community, they are really nicer after you know them longer👍and they love to give discount to their frequent costumers😁but the first time entering their shop are sometimes kinda frightening for me..
Bali is a fun place they are definitely aggressive at sales but can be reasonable if they think you are smart. There is even a shop i saw called "100% genuine fakes" i saw poking fun at that... I admired the honesty and humor so much i went in and bought some "Kelvin Clain" underwear from them.
*That moment he realized the knockoffs costs more than the the original*
Last one was better she was like you are very tough guy😂😂😂
The seller really give pressure...
Somehow this remind me when my mom also bargaining a lot when buying something.. 😂
Why did they blur there eyes the original wasn’t censored
'Which country are you from?'
'No country'
'So I'm an alien?'
Going to the silkmarket is a two day trip, first day you only negotiate to get the lowest price but you actually don't buy anything. Second day you go to the same store and tell them their lowest price that they told you the day before. You get all of your stuff you wanted within 30 minutes at the lowest price. 👍
4:06 you are so tough guy haha
I always fail when I try to bargin 😔
"HOW MUCH YOU WANT"
I thought the lady might smash him with the calculator if he won't buys lol
" I'm an alien " - Some random guy bargaining in a Chinese shop 2018
2:45 i died instantly by laughing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I watch every single bargaining video AND IS INTENSE AS HELL
honestly , this applies for every country , they will constantly give you the over the top price if the know you're a foreigner
When i was in china...i got to knew one important thing...whatever price they say...divide it by 10 and then move up a bit in bargaining and you will get the thing cheaply.
I haven't inherited my mother's bargaining skills, idk how I'm gonna survive 😌
Ahgase💚 same here :(
@@nadessaclarke3208 💚🐥
Lol
1,200 yuan ($190) for a knock-off brand shoe while i can buy a new pair of REAL Nike shoes with that price
I have experienced this before they even yelled at me from far and asking where I from too. Such a bad shopping experience
1:52 "can you give me your best price!?"
Yes ma'am how much is your life worth?
"No country, i'm an alien"
My reaction your profile pic
I’d say Thailand is a better place for shopping at least they've fixed price tag board for the items and then you can bargain a bit . I don't have such extreme bargaining skills like Chinese people they settled for like 10% of price. I'd feel damn shamed if I've to lower it from 999$ to 99$ .😪😪😪
Haha if they know you are a foreigner or tourist, they jack up the price real high. If they know you are Thai, they give you the original price. Don't think Thailand doesn't do it.
i didn't know there were "new" Jordan models out in the market. except maybe in China 🤣🤣🤣
they got all this sentence: give me your best price😂
This is brutal, they have a family to feed.😂
Tesco the shopkeepers probably earn more than enough because they probably bought them at an even cheaper price
You srsly dont know chinese.....
So does he. Lol...
The cost of living if lower in China and they have insane margins.
Wow she's fluent in english 😦 i used to ask for lower price with some kinda sign language because we can't communicate 😂😂😂
I think I'm going to run when they start to ask my best price , they're scary 🤣
Indonesia, especially Jakarta, also has this kind of market. They started the price so high and eventually make a deal in an attractive lower price.
The key is when we stucked in bargaining process, prentend to leave the store.
Taman Puring & Pasar Uler...
His bargaining skills is horrible. That's not how you bargain wtf?
" How much do you want "
" I'm not going to tell you, u wont like it "
Its a great tactic. Tell the person that its going to be bad to get the negative emotion of the low offer out of the way. And it anchors the price low showing the vendor that the buyer knows the true value of the knock off goods.
@@leaderoftheoppositio That's not how it works. You're not giving anything to even work with. And when they actually give a price it's something ridiculously low it doesn't even make sense. Bargaining means you reach a point that's favourable for you and slightly disadvantageous for the seller. It doesn't mean trying to rip the off the seller completely. Imagine buying shoes and saying you'll buy it for $5 and then complaining that bargaining doesn't end well. It's just silly
I think it's because they suspectex that he was a foreigner and they wouldn't have guessed that he lived in China so they raised the prices more expecting him not knowing how to bargain. So they took this as an oppurutntiy to take advantage of him and sell the clothing at a higher price than if they were selling to a Chinese customer nevertheless this guy was an absolute pro at bargaining!
No he is not lol.
The problem is I don't know how to bargain
one time I tried to buy a shoes for 70$ , I tried to bargain and I bought for 80$
Seems like I would lose both kidneys if I was shopping in that place
this is Asian bargaining this is pretty normal I think 😂
“Only for you.”
'You are a very tough guy'😂
Oh man when I was in Bali it was just as bad , they try to take advantage of tourists so bad lol my friend that was with me literally talked down the prices of all the souvenirs I bought by 50 percent or more