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I'm not married, but domestic abuse is a one-way ticket to divorce. Violence shouldn't be tolerated nor endured. How is this not common sense to these people?
Because they're retarded and living in their own little world. This is the internet, where the vast majority of people don't know shit and have little life experience. They think they know everything but they live in their own little echo chamber and don't go outside that much.
@@lola-ford well duh, that’s a given. I think they’re just trying to encourage people using an argument that conflicts the one shown in the podcast Aba and preach are watching
If traditional marriage and traditional relationships needs to endure all of them. Including gas lighting, narcissm, manipulation etc. Then i want no part of it.
If you guys haven't seen yet they did a new video on him specifically he glassed a woman in a Club in Japan and said some foul shit in group chats he got charged for the glassing thing BTW sooooo ya
"Divorce isn't a real thing" Yeah denying a thing that has been legal for hundreds of years in some cases is a great way to show your intelligence lmao
He's trying to morally Grand stand. In the New Testament, Jesus says God never really intended divorce to be legal in Israel, but he made that compromise to get more adherence from his chosen people, the Jews. It's overall, a dumb, self-aggrandizing position to take. God has obviously forgiven Christians for thousands of years for divorces. And they even contradict themselves later on where they try to cite the old testament's Jewish laws for divorce: having proof of adultery was grounds for divorce. The same laws that Jesus said God didn't intend to allow. Which is what they appealed to by saying "I don't believe in divorce." 🤦🏿♂️ These people are just LARPers. Just like JustPearlyThings or Fresh and Fit, or anyone else on the Internet that always has to be right (everyone that disagrees with them has to be stupid).
@RespectTheSpirits "The first U.S. divorce, according to history, occurred in Massachusetts in 1643". "Divorce first became legal in France on September 20, 1792." And note I did specify "in some cases". Gotta read man. Google it
You “endure” hardship as a team. Things like sickness, loss of a job, miscarriages, etc. are things a couple should come together to get through. You don’t endure one partner harming and abusing the other, because you are no longer on the same side.
It’s not considered a sin. No where in the Bible is it a sin. Marriage was added as a pillar to the church in the 15th century. During biblical days a woman was considered property hence the reason she was considered tainted if touched by another man and killed.
@@Itsallaboutlove52 lies. In Deuteronomy it clearly states if a woman is assaulted or *aped, the abuser has to pay tribute to the family of the victim bc he defiled her. I challenge you to find a scripture backing up what you said. You wont.
I think it’s clear that the people who say “just endure with someone who beats you” have never really been beaten or verbally assaulted in their life. It’s really a place of extreme privilege to be so naive to not comprehend how awful it is. I’ve never been beaten but I’ve had 12 hour shifts with incredibly verbally abusive patients before. Being called just awful names for 12 hours really wears on you. It’s exhausting and demeaning. Now imagine it’s not some dumb patient you’re being paid to care for but in fact a person you love and can never escape from. The absolute bubble these people must live in to not realize how damaging this is to both the victim and the children who have to endure it.
Ding dong! If these people that said that want to stay and work things out, please do as you like. We are people with self respect and dignity will leave and live our life to the fullest without those BS😅
You're absolutely correct. Or they have the privilege of never having had (or at least to their knowledge) their own family members like their mother or sister go through that. I think had they witnessed their father beating their mother or saw a black eye on their sister knowing it came from a guy who is way bigger than her and should have never laid hands on her, their take would be much different.
Unfortunately, all too often it is the other way around: they have been abused so often and from such a young age that they have normalized it. In that case, the "just endure it" phrase is less of a boast and more of a repetition of what they believe to be "common sense". After all, if one's terrible situation doesn't seem abnormal and there is no one around willing to help you out (or even point out that the situation is bad/abnormal), it is all too easy to believe that "it's just how things are". In that case, the conclusion people in these situations typically come to is that it will never change or get better, so they'll just have to live with it. Is it nice, fair, or even reasonable? No, but unfortunately, it is a sad reality many face.
As a Christians I CRINGED when that guy said “JuSt EnDuRe iT 🥴”…. Ladies, if anyone tries to use the Word of God against you, remind them that God called men to LOVE their wives as Christ loved the church, which he ended up giving his life for in the most gruesome way.
Jesus literally said you can ONLY get divorced if they cheat on your sexually, that's the only exception. Jesus also said remarriage is a sin, so if you get divorced at 25 you have to be single and celibate until you die at 85. You can ONLY get divorced if there's sexual adultery. It's literally in the bible. You can get separated and live in different houses, but you can't legally get divorced. Christianity is imperfect but you will deny the fact that it has flaws.
Yeah I’m really sick of these ultra conservative/red pilled people that claim to be extremely religious mostly Christians. Like holy shit most of you didn’t even read once the Bible or if you didn’t understand anything about it’s messages ... Im not even religious but these people just preach water and drink whine is sickening
Don’t listen to them, they’re just reactionaries trying to get a reaction, they’re not Christian’s, this way of thinking is so evil. I’m Catholic and I’ve never thought this way in my life smh
My parents were devout Catholics, married for 56 years. They had "normal" hard times. I'm one of 9 bc Mom felt it was sinful to use birth control, even though she disagreed with the rule. My parents were wonderful and my dad used to joke that the key to marriage is "endurance". When they saw that I was being verbally and mentally tormented in my relationship, they stayed out of it. When I went to them for help and told them how bad things really were (husband was a meth addict who stalked me at work, etc), they told me to kick him out immediately and tell him that I didn't need his money. They supplemented me financially until I could get an apartment that I could afford on my own. A marriage only means something when both people stick to the vows. ALL of them. When you break the vows, you break the covenant.
Even in Islam abusing your women is seen as one of the most terrible sins and i have very devout muslim parents and i have never seen my parents get physical but of course hard times did occur but those i think are usually normal
@@lalahua6552 She married my dad at 19, had my oldest brother at 24, and had me right before her 38th birthday. She couldn't get pregnant for a few years because of a thyroid issue. Then after me, my parents used the "rhythm method", which I highly don't recommend! Even though she didn't get pregnant using it, I think that was just pure luck. It's when you time your ovulation. So no birth control ever.
I'm an Irish Catholic and my grandmother used to get beaten by her father before she married my grandfather. My grandfather didn't know this happened until she showed up with a black eye about four months before the wedding. He told her that she was moving in with him that day and to stay at his house (now their house), and he would go to get her things. He showed up at her parents' house and gave him a beating worse than all of the beatings he gave his daughter combined. He then got my grandmother's things and left. My grandfather promised my grandmother before leaving that he wouldn't kill him, and to his credit he kept his promise, but he also did what had to be done.
I grew up with an abusive alcoholic father with a mom who ENDURED for the sake of her 5 children. My family line is filled with domestic abuse and they always stayed together because it would be considered shameful to leave. My dad has thankfully calmed down after he got older and my siblings threatened him. However, there's always fear his rage will come back and he will hurt her. After many attempts to get my mom to leave, she still believes she must ENDURE. I have a host of issues including Complex PTSD, have a hard time keeping relationships, and boundary issues I’m working on. I don’t even know what it means to be in a secure relationship because there were no models growing up. So please folks don’t fucking ENDURE this bullshit.
enduring CONSITANT abuse is never okay and he NEVER implied that or said that but you would be IGNORANT AS FUCK to leave, break up your FAMILY, all b/c someone hit someone ONE TIME.....stfu with that weak shit You know DAMN WELL if you had a son....who was married for 10 years, with 3 kids (3yrs, 6yrs, and 8yrs).... He gets into an argument with his wife and she SLAPS THE FUCK out of him 3 times in the fact, cutting his face with her nails, and pushes him into the wall..... You would tell him to LEAVE NOW!!! break up that family, leave those kids in a divorced family, separate holidays and bdays and all, just b/c of ONE TIME being "physically abused" Let me guess.... "well thats different!!!"
Almost exact same scenario. As the oldest I saw EVERYTHING, and let me tell you, it was the biggest relief for my family once my father left entirely. Life was so much better and we could finally start healing after a terrifying decade of mistreatment.
The kind of reply a socialised psychopath would give is 'endure', or from someone who has led a relatively sheltered life without real suffering. That's what is killing our society, division and judgement.
It’s unreal how people refuse to go against the agenda they’re pushing, women should absolutely leave if they’re abused just like men should also leave if they’re being abused.
My father was abusive and my mother "endured" because 'she "loved" him. Meanwhile we kids had to 'endure' as well. The only thing that made it somewhat tolerable was that it didn't happen often-but often enough. We all got in the habit of running out the one door when he came in the other, to avoid him. The yell of "Dad's home!" was a warning klaxon to take cover, not a welcome exclamation of delight. I left home as soon as I could and never looked back. And when my father died, and I got the call, I shrugged indifferently and went about my day. I will probably do much the same when my mother dies. She failed us, and now accepts no responsibility for making our childhood a hell of fear and uncertainty.
I mean this is the most non judgemental way possible, I hope you go to therapy, that’s a lot for one person to unpack, help isn’t a bad thing even when you don’t think it necessary.
im sorry to hear that but your mom didnt abuse u guys atleast but their are some people sadly who fall in love to deep and give her another chance she probably didnt mean to get you guys hurt
I agree with you 💯. This coming from a woman who had an extremely violent and abusive father. I was also indifferent to his death. The only reason I attended his funeral is because of my brother and sister. Funny thing is I don't even feel bad about it. Lol. And for the bird brains that are saying you should take it easy on your mother, more than likely never had to endure the abuse you went through, but have he audacity to advise you on how to process your trauma. I'm sorry, but a woman's love for her children should always trump her love for her man. Your mother shouldn't have kept you and your siblings in that situation.
I've been abused by every woman I've dated . My last ex hit me in the face in front of all of her friends and humiliated me . But I'm a guy so I couldn't so anything except take it and she knew it ... Long story short , I took her right eye .
I was in a abusive marriage. I was almost killed by my soon to be ex husband. I now have a permanent protection order. No one should go through what I have been through for years. Love you both.
@@Remedy462 What an egotistical thing to say. You want a concept that is supposed to be applied to humanity as a whole to just appear cause of one random person who just so happened to stumble upon within the internet domain. As much as I am glad she is safe now from that situation, it's honestly annoying to hear these overtly positive and idealistic desires to try and mentally comfort the victims. Reality is quite brutal and unfair in many cases, and a lot more people need to come to terms with that. Sometimes those who cause the most harm get the best qualities of life going forward, and the victims sometimes get the worst outcomes for the rest of their days.
I had a friend that 'endured' because of the children and one day he just went off the deep end and stabbed her. He's in jail, she's not here anymore and the kids are being raised by her parents. She 'endured' for the sake of the kids not being in a single parent home and now she's not here. That one dude is f*cking delusional.
The fact that they think that beating your partner in front of your child isn’t damaging, but the partner/wife cheating does. Both are extremely tolling on children
I like how divorce is the worst thing in the world but physically abusing the mom in front of the kids leads to perfectly well adjusted kids as god intended.
I grew up with my parents divorced and watched my moms husband try day in and out to abuse her and as a kid i never stood for that shit and always got into it until with him till she left that nigga, now im grown and lets just say dat nigga knows better now just glad i wasnt like these niggas in the podcast thinking men hitting women is acceptable
As a survivor of severe domestic abuse, during pregnancy and after, to the point of blacking out being strangled many times and being told he’d murder me and throw me in a well where no one would find me in the woods near his house, beating me viciously and destroying me mentally all while I carried our infant inside me and then cared for our child while working full time and going to paramedic school full time to support us because he refused to work, thank you. It wasn’t until the last time he strangled me and I looked over to my sleeping infant realizing I’d be murdered next to him and he’d grow up with this monster that I gained the strength to chance being murdered while trying to escape for our lives over staying and being murdered anyways…. He’s now graduating second grade, we are thriving and I’m a stay at home mother in a healthy relationship. Thank you for talking about this and how prevalent and unacceptable and damaging abuse is. I also grew up watching my mother being beaten and drug use and being starved and neglected and statistically when you grow up around DV the cycle will repeat. The cycle stops with me and any woman brave enough to leave. Here’s to all the beautiful women that tried to “endure” or were broken down to a shell, too afraid to try to escape or who DID escape and lost their lives as a result. ❤
Glad you made it out! Too many people don't know how DV really impacts people or how they work. Those men obviously know nothing. Probably wouldn't know it even if they saw it because for them it's ok. It's sick.
It’s heart breaking to see how common this is. Yet women who divorce over this are chastised and judged as single mothers by Red Pill channels like Just Pearly Things.
@@prestokrs1 they constantly shit on single mothers despite the fact that they could have left due to situations like abuse and assume that every single time a woman wants a divorce its some frivolous reason.
Watching this video absolutely infuriates me. Ya’ll should look up Ronnie O’Neil, a man who abused his girlfriend. She “endured” because of their kids together. She endured all that right up until the day he walked into the house, shot his girlfriend, and hacked her 9 year old disabled daughter to death with a hatchet. He took their young son and laid him on the ground, stabbing him also. His girlfriend was last heard screaming to 911 that she was being murdered. The mom and daughter both died, but young 8 year old Ronnie O’Neil survived his wounds. He bravely faced his father in court, and was adopted by a detective who helped rescue him. Suggesting that people like her don’t leave their abusers and just “endure for the sake of the relationship” is the height of assholery and Ignorance, and it has fatal consequences. Shoutout to Aba and Preach for standing up to this insanity.
@@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo you do realize death is the end result for many people in abusive relationships right? It’s not that extreme to think someone who’s willing to physically take things that far with someone they claim to love would be willing to kill them too.
@@schokococoa575 a lot of the death is also accidently. It just takes hitting the wrong place or landing wrong to die. Not leaving just means waiting for death.
@@BridgetWalker-eu3lzdon’t lump all Catholics together pls, not all of us think in these very reactionary ways. His names John Doyle and he’s some idiot working for daily wire or something. Many Catholics don’t think like this. He’s just some idiot who used Christianity as a political tool
I graduated high school in a Catholic school. One day, we had a discussion with our priest who was also our principal about marriages. One of my classmates pointed out the same situation. The question was something talong the line ls of "What if my spouse was abusing me or my children? Is separation not an option then?" Our principal answered, "No. In that situation, you are allowed to leave the marriage. God would never want to harm you, so he would want you to leave a household where you are being harmed." If a man of the cloth, a person whose beliefs value marriage as a blessed thing, tells you to not take abuse just to stay in a marriage, you get the fck out. Don't listen to this endure shit. There is always an answer and someone who is willing to help.
My pastors said the same thing. They were always very anti divorce and pro reconciliation, but it anyone is ever in physical danger LEAVE do not ENDURE. EDIT: my pastors were not catholic btw. Born again tongue speaking evangelical pentecostalists
The guy who said endure was "red pill". I don't know why aba and preach made it seem like they were all catholics and they were all saying to endure abusive relationships. I would advise you watch the long form video.
My ex-wife didn't know how to deal with her emotions in a healthy way and found it hard to let go of anything I did that she didn't like. I've been hit, had things thrown at me, and even had to wrestle a knife out of her hands once. I stayed because I was her husband, and it's a husband's duty to protect the woman he vowed to love and cherish. But after years of abuse escalating and falling deeper and deeper into depression and misery, I had to put a stop to it. I separated and eventually divorced her and sought therapy to make sure I dealt with any trauma that might have been lingering. I'm glad I left. I've built myself back up. And I met someone some years later who blessed my life by showing me what real love felt like. The kind of love that uplifts you both. Having verbal disagreements and arguments is one thing, but physical abuse and constantly putting your loved ones down like they are garbage is not ok.
Salute!!! My ex wife was verbally abuse but I was told it wasn’t that big a deal. The relationship was never violent but she would withhold sex as punishment. The longest was a year and a half. We had 2 kids so I tried to stick it out. But she began seeing a guy from her past. I gave her an ultimatum and she decided she didn’t want to be married. She divorced me and told me we would remarry in 2 years. After I healed from the trauma I meet someone and she did her best to destroy the relationship. I married the woman I meet and it’s been 7+ years of a loving peaceful relationship. We have 2 children. The ex wife remarried and my children have not seen her husband since 2018. My children are going through narcissistic trauma with her. It’s definitely a double standard with men.
Glad you left! She would have gotten progressively worse. If you had children I hope they ended up with you. Abuse of any kind physical or psychological from men or women is a deal breaker.
@@LemonlimeDRink Luckily we didn't have kids. But if that were the case I probably would have held off leaving her just long enough to seek legal counsel and figure out the best way to approach obtaining custody of my kids. What that would have looked like in the end I honestly can't say, but I would have done everything I could to make it happen. Then proceed with the inevitable court battle.
If child sees constant abuse, he has increased chances to continue that cycle of abuse as a grown-up. It's crazy to suggest to stay in a family like that.
That’s what happened with my father. My paternal grandfather abused by paternal grandmother and they briefly got divorced when he was 6 years old but got back together only two years later. My father treated my mom the same way but she left him and never came back to him. My grandad(mom’s dad) was an orphan and was raised by his grandparents but he never talked about how his parents died and rarely ever talked about his childhood. I figured out why when I started getting into genealogy, I discovered that his dad shot his mom three times in the back during an outdoor church service when he was only three years old. I was shocked and blown away and nobody else in the family(except my grandma) knew about it. I talked to my grandma about what I discovered and she told me about how my grandads dad was an abusive alcoholic and she left him and took my grandad and his baby sister with her and was planning on getting a divorce. So he killed her, served a short prison sentence, my grandad was sent to be raised by his paternal grandparents while his sister was adopted and raised by their maternal grandparents. We all agreed that he’d never know that we knew about his parents and let him believe that he was taking his biggest secret to the grave. It would’ve killed him if he knew that his kids, grandkids, and great-grandkids all knew about it. I’m very proud of my grandad for breaking the cycle and for becoming a greater man than his father ever was and I’m especially proud that I take after him. This is why these pious pricks are making my blood boil right now. They’re just as bad as the feminists they complain about.
They're giving out hog shit aneuristic takes bro they're frauds for this reason. These "red pill" men need to get their shit beat in to truly understand how that isn't ok
You do have to endure it, this is why a nuclear family was stronger before, you think your grandma at one point might have not want to leave? but she didnt, she understood her assignment , to raise a family NO MATTER WHAT. now days women are just quitter. This is why I want men to not marry, IT IS A LIABILITY FOR US, THere is absolutely NO BENEFIT for men to marry.
Easier said. Sadly you'd be out more than half your money and house and she'd have custody of the kid and you'd have to fight her in court to get custody while paying her child support and maybe alimony.
endure.....................just kidding that *endure* take is such a bad one. A situation where people are laying hands on you and abusing you is such a dangerous one, even if its a woman she could up the ante and poison you or use weapons or if its just hands even though you outclass her its dangerous for you as well one day you might react as you are biologically wired to do, which is fight or flight and if you flatten her in reaction to her going all out assaulting you, its your butt in the fire and future ruined due to the legal and social backlash.
I'm not sure if that one guy in the video was ignorant of abuse or a future abuser himself. I don't think he thinks beating a wife is that bad. I can totally see him doing it without recourse
that's great and i'm glad you got out of the situation but why tf do people always use abbreviations for shit like this. SA this and DV that, fucking takes me a few seconds to deduce what tf this shit means before progressing with reading the rest of the sentence. just write out the shit, jesus christ. pisses me off every time (SA = sexual assault, DV = domestic violence btw, if you're like me)
glade you did.I am to and still fighting for our ( my children and I) freedom.Not easy when you don't have family and friends around.But God will set us free🙌🙌
I’m sorry but cheating and abuse are my two only reasons for divorce. I’ve told my wife that before I even thought about marrying her. It was brought up like our 2nd or 3rd date. So these guys give conservatives a bad name. This is why I love watching Aba and Preach. You guys rock.
I am a conservative, but abuse mentally and physically is nothing to endure! If your partner does this get out asap! I have been married for 27 years…I have NOT had anything to endure with my husband, not even once. Every struggle, every problem we went thru and our marriage has grown stronger. My parents have been married 49 years …they were my role models. I knew what a real marriage looked like. Also if someone disrespects you in a million different ways divorce is still the best option!
Honestly the red pill is such an odd view on conservative values . I can't imagine any conservative I know in my life talking about one sided open end relationships or enduring physical because God wills it .
My family is pretty traditionally conservative and we all supported my sister for leaving her husband when he put his hands on her. These round tables are so ridiculous
I’m a lad picking up traditional values and I agree. As a kid, I grew up within an abusive household with a relative that was verbally abusive and another that was the same but also physically abusive. Abuse is no joke. Fuck this “eNDuRiNG” bullshit. Red pill is just showing it’s retarded nature again.
Do I think people give up too easily in relationships? Absolutely. Do I think any type of abuse should be tolerated/endured? Absolutely not. It’s pretty simple
I absolutely love to see y’all this platform to call out scum of the earth like this. Your recent content has been so much better because it feels like you’re putting your focus more on the people who desperately deserve to be called out. And the fact it’s coming from y’all will mean a lot to a lot of people.
As a child from a household with an abusive father, I can confirm the obvious that “enduring” this sort of treatment is the worse two adults in a abusive relationship can do. I remember seeing my father beat my mom and feeling helpless. Anyone that condones this type of ideology of enduring such abuse is 1: a idiot and doesn’t know what they are talking about or 2: an abuser themselves. I remember how I wish my mother would have left my father when I was a child, these ppl clearly Dont know what they speak of.
My dad abused my mother for about the first 8 years of my life. After that, my mom had enough and went to the authorities. We were homeless for a while after that because she was an illegal immigrant and had trouble finding steady work and getting all the things required to rent a home. We were lucky to have family help us along the way but it was still rough. All that to say, our household dynamic FLOURISHED when my dad left the picture. Even while in a homeless shelter, our love for each other kept us going because we knew we were all we had. These red pill guys know nothing about what it's like to live in an abusive or single parent home. As someone who lived in both, they are not even comparable.
@@shernetteanthony1359 some people have managed to fix relationships they have had cheating, but it's dangerous to even think about staying with someone that physically assaults you
@@shernetteanthony1359 or they went to therapy together to see why the partner made that choice and if remorseful, what the cheating partner can do to ensure it never happens again. It CAN happen, but often the cheater doesn’t feel remorse, and when they pretend they do, it shows up in other ways in the relationship. But I’d forgive a sincere person for cheating before I let an abuser ever lay eyes on me twice. Both are grounds for divorce, but abuse often leads to way worse outcomes than cheating. A very small percentage of people end up dead because of a cheating spouse compared to an abusive spouse.
There’s no reason to endure. Enduring it only tells the abuser they can get away with it and encourages them to push the boundaries of their abusive behavior. Speaking from experiences. I grew up in an abusive household where my dad started out as a lazy deadbeat, then he regressed into a verbal abuser towards my mom, then started becoming violent and making physical threats against her. Eventually it started coming my way and that’s when my mom finally had enough with it and she took me with her. She took me and left him not just to escape the abuse, but she told me she didn’t want me to be influenced by my dad’s abusive behavior and get the idea that treating a partner like that is normal or acceptable. Luckily my dad had a redemption arc, but it took everything being taken away from him to realize how much of a POS he was being. Definitely taught me how to recognize patterns of abuse and gave me very strong resolve to be a compassionate, effective partner.
My parents never divorced despite the fact that my father was abusive in every way imaginable. Over the course of 20 years, I watched my mother become a shell of her former self and I lost all respect for her. The mental consequences on my brother and I for living in that environment has absolutely destroyed our lives. Had my mom left when my aunt told her to, when she was at her strongest to do so, none of us would've been put through that. My abusive dad will always be his abusive self and I know it's his fault but my mom didn't start out the way she is now and she made that choice to. I'm a Christian now and almost 2 1/2 years clean of opiates and all other drugs and I can tell you right now there is no religious basis for staying in an abusive relationship. God stresses men to love and cherish their wives as not to break their wedding vows. I have no idea where these men are getting this idea of no divorce even in the case of abuse because it's certainly not from the Bible! This is purely their egos talking.
The bible does talk about marriage and divorce it says that God hates divorce. The bible says cheating and a partner dying is grounds for a divorce. There are sections where it says that if one of the partners is a believer and the other is not a believer in the relationship one can show them the goodness of God and cause them to become a believer but if not then the relationship is dead. Me personally if I was getting beaten in the relationship I would get out fast as crap and I'm a grown ass man I don't want anyone guy or girl putting they hands on each other.
@DeemedLight the Bible condems unlawful divorce. Meaning just divorce to have another partner. But it the husband commits adultery and fails his wife in protecting her she has a right to leave him. God hates adultery and abuse more than divorce. Because a husband is to protect and love his wife as Jesus loved the church. If a husband is abusing his wife he Is acting against God's commandment.
So instead of holding your abusive father accountable you blamed & lose respect for you mom the victim of the abuse? If you siding with your dad just say so. Some "Christian" you are🤦🏼
@@VidWatcher01 this a trend among bratty kids this day and age. They channel all their anger on their mothers because they're soft targets instead of confronting their fathers ( the wrong doers ). This person is a coward.
I have a cousin that "endures" toxic and abusive relationships just to be taken care of financially. Her daughter is an anxious, depressed little girl. People have stepped in, but it never lasts long since the mom moves to a new toxic situation and takes the daughter with her. It's hard to watch.
Unfortunately I have a cousin who was in a similar situation where she tolerated mental and emotional abuse because the guy took care of her financially. Luckily she broke up with him and got out of that mess kid free.
Aba was spot on about raising a child in a home where your father openly beats her. I was raised in that environment from birth to 9 yrs old then they got back together when I was 11, we finally left when I was 15. You can't begin to understand the trauma that occurs in your own life, due to seeing that. I watched my mother and father fighting over trying to get a butcher knife to protect herself, and he was leaning the knife closer to her neck. At 9 years old, I genuinely thought one of my parents are going to die tonight. So I called the cops, my dad heard and somehow flung the knife away then started beating her so badly, she had her arms over her face screaming 'NO NO NO STOP YOURE KILLING Me!!!!' and screaming these horrific sounds. So I jumped on his back pulled his hair hard and tried to choke him. For some reason they got back together, and I had to listen to the screaming matches, and slaps and screaming from my mother. So I developed a type of selective hearing, which I do sometimes today. I can literally not hear or really see a person speaking to me a foot away, until I snap out of it. As for the trauma, whenever I hear loud men, loud arguments and just arguments in general I have a full blown panic attack. Staying with him has made me scared of relationships in case the guy would possibly be at me in the future-even if he's the absolutely amazing man I want, I can't find it in me try try serious dating. All because of that trauma. I have PTSD, Social Anxiety, Full blown anxiety with panic attacks, avoid attachments to people just in case. So that white business suit guy can Fuck himself with a red hot iron poker, he's a piece of human garbage. Thank you Aba for saying that it's a horribly stupid idea those men have Sorry so long, just wanted to explain that the person abused isn't the only victim.
That's not redpill. The Redhill is dead by allowing gridter and reformed manwhores spreading and vomiting bs like this. Look a Steven crowder he abused his wife for years and he put a Pikachu face when she had enough and she kicked him to the curb
As a man, I don't know why there can't be any balance in these discussions. Let's make it clear, if a man beats his wife then she has every right to divorce him and never look back. All people need to protect themselves at all times. To me there is no working it out once physical abuse comes into play.
most men do not disagree with you, the issue most men have is she can divorce you for NO reason and she will be rewarded for it through alimony and child support.
When kids in abusive relationship came up, I just had to stop. Im coming from an abusive household and I can totally tell that it sucks to forget beating, but hearing both ARGUE THE WHOLE TIME. Its sickening so much so that I am the whole time thinking of just leaving this cursed "family".
This is exactly the reason why i love these two. Don't matter if it's left or right, they give praise when earned and call them out when they spew bullshit. People who are us vs them mentality are the worst kinds of closed minded morons
Good point. They just stick to common sense. I appreciate that they are another voice for men because I was a little worried there for a minute. There's the w0ke virus AND this pill virus. And they're both doing too much!!!
They literally make videos ALLLL the time about internet beef and internet drama.... even causing drama and beef themsevles.... wtf are u talking about??? EVERYTHING about these two are "us VS them" mentality..... Wtf have you been watching the past 10 years???
I’m a child of divorce parents. My dad was cheating on my mom. I tend to see my dad hit my mom and my mom hits back. That did a mental toll on me and my sister. I have friends who also went through worse. To say abusive relationships aren’t effective on children is more is wild and a flat out lie. If you’re in a abusive relationship, I encourage you to seek help and get out of there immediately! You’re not at fault. You’re not the problem. Get out of there!
No idea why they're saying that. They tout statistics when it comes to single parent households, but make baseless claims when it comes to this. Children in abusive households developing mental illness or major trauma is pretty much common knowledge.
I was in a relashionship that became worst and worst until a big fight burst out and he started punching wall, my computer etc. I ended up in tears, my brother came to pick me up and he changed the lock on my door. After that my ex kept telling me that he didn't understand why I wouldn't try harder to forgive him and get back together, call me crazy and dramatic for changing the lock. I told him what would you if your daugther call you and tell you her husband treated her like that : same answer anf these guys in the video "kill the guy, get my daugther the F away from him" but you should stay with me and work harder to repear the relationship..... this is the moment where I'm like "what's the point of talking to you"
As a very religious person, I “endured” an abusive marriage for 10 years. Mostly because we had kids. We didn’t get divorced until he cheated. I wish we would have gotten divorced sooner because now I have the most loving, kind man in my life. I didn’t know that I could be treated well. I wish I would have had the courage to get divorced sooner so I could know what safety and love feels like. There’s too much divorce stigma in religion. But I also feel like people give up on relationships just because they get hard. There’s a difference between hard and abuse and most people don’t know the difference until they’ve experienced it.
As a Christian, I believe in marriage and as a man, if I have to “endure” my partner hitting me, playfully or not, I would file divorce faster than you can say “amen!” And to be clear, I use “playfully” very loosely.
The idea of "playfully" hitting your husband is just abuse. If you outline this and you're called weak or not a man by whoever you're dating, then that is an abuser. Don't take it as anything different. No female on Earth has the right to call what Steven Crowder did abuse but then try and justify literally hitting their husband/boyfriend- doesn't work like that.
As someone who grew up watching their father beat their mother no child should go through that let alone the victim. I'm appaled at these men. It traumatizes everyone involved and WILL lead to someone dying or severely hurt mentally and physically.
As a Catholic we do not claim that ideology. Yes adultery is a cause for divorce but so is abuse. If your life or child’s life is in danger then you can 100% divorce. They’re not real catholics.
When I was 18 I had a high school sweet heart. Once her mom seen how serious we were she allowed me to date her and welcomed me into their home/family under on condition…. I must convert to Catholicism. Blindly in hopes of acceptance I agreed.during this time of my life I really couldn’t think for myself and I always yearned to please others first. During this course somethings made me raise an eyebrow but I never spoken up to question things that was being interpreted from the Bible, but other ppl in my class did ( they were much older than me. I was the youngest). One women spoke on her abuse and the lady said that no matter what there is no divorce with Catholics, even for adultery. That amongst other things did not sit right with me. So on the last day before baptism I backed out. I went to my girlfriends house and told her mom I wasn’t comfortable with proceeding. The look it her eyes, the disappointment, she really was damn near a mom to me and from that point I know she saw me as a stranger. That tarnished my relationship with my girlfriend ( well ex I should say sorry). I was homeless and they brought me in and next thing you know I’m back on the streets. I truly hold no grudge to her or the family. She’ll always be the closest thing to a mom. It just sucks that religion came between us.
As a Catholic I think you made the right decision. You shouldn't be force to convert into a religion you're not comfortable with. And unlike other religions Catholics aren't supposed to force you into converting even when marrying. No disrespect to other religions tho. And some religious people are just so self-righteous.
To men AND women reading this, please leave an abusive relationship when you can. And for those being dismissive by simplifying it by saying "lol just don't choose an abusive person", it's not that simple. An abusive person most likely mask their true personality up until their partner finally becomes dependent on them and then they start their abuse. Nobody in their right mind would actively be seeking out an abusive relationship and most people will not go anywhere near a person that they know will outwardly harm them from the get go. Abuse just doesn't start right away
Thank you. My ex husband got diagnosed with "extreme psychopathic traits" this was after the fact after we had separated due to all the abuse. He was kind acting and very good at lying about everything from the start. Never put a finger on me while we were courting. It wasn't until after our marriage. Best believe I would have ran before tie-ing the knot. Lets not pretend mental illness and extreme manipulators aren't out there. Everybody is susceptible to being scammed. Just like the men who get "trapped" by women who claim they have infertility issues etc etc. Guess they should have chose better too. But for some people lying is just like breathing. And when you aren't a liar and manipulator yourself it's hard to fathom someone could be that way and you have a hard time seeing and believing it. I learned my lesson the hard way. Had to escape my ex with a broken arm and bloody face. I would have never willingly married someone that i knew would do that to me. He masked his issues extremely well.
It's the truth though. I really hope these smug individuals don't get humbled by the all mighty, because abuse can happen to anyone. I honestly don't trust anyone with this mentality and suspect they are ignorant, arrogant and either in or are the abuser. Enduring an abuser is like giving an alcoholic free beer. The bible said to not tempt people with things they struggle with. Sometimes your the beer and the abuser is a raging alcoholic. Remove the beer. Remove yourself. Abusers will slowly whittle away at their victims confidence and shift the blame all on their victim. It's a terrible mental game. Because the abuser with act sorry. Act like they care. But when hard times come, their true colors show. Especially if they don't get their way. The will lie, coerce, manipulate to get their way. The bible doesn't instruct men or women to coerce or manipulate each other. Ever. Your suppose to be responsible for yourself only. The definition of love to an abuser is "I only treat you nice unless you do what I say and if you don't, I don't care. I'm entitled to you. You are mine and I control you." Whereas a person who knows true love, the definition is patience, endurance, self-sacrifice, slow to anger, not self-seeking, not boastful, understanding, caring. Sometimes the understanding and caring thing to do is not enable terrible behaviors. For their sake. The abuser won't repent unless someone shows them the consequence of errors of their ways. Because Jesus was never and will never be for abuse. "It is better a millstone be tied around their neck and tossed into the deepest ocean" is what he quoted saying for people who harm young Christians. Young Christians are usually the ones trying to "endure" abuse because their cult Christian community don't understand the entirety of the lessons of the bible. Especially the lessons of compassion and to stand against evil. Abuse is evil. I'll even chance to say it's Lucifer's way. Because Christ respected people's freewill. An abuser doesn't respect freewill. Take that temptation away and leave.
@@gravyos1It's because most men are either not confident or arrogant. Women mistake arrogance for confidence because they never seen a healthy confident man in their life. :(Everyone is to blame andbwe al gotta start working on ourselves to shift society to healthy and loving confidence.
@@chrisc4507 How is Pablo a simp? Because he doesn't want to see women suffering domestic abuse? But you'd still be fine if it was the other way around, huh?
My mom used to put hands on my dad on a regular basis because he was an alcoholic. They stayed together and "endured" for us kids. I wish they would have separated before I turned 18.
Guys who want a "Trad wife" are so creepy to me, it only ever sounds like they want a sex doll that cooks and cleans for them, and never challenges them. Not only is that super weird and creepy but also BORING! I want my partner to challenge me, and help make me a better person overall.
There's *NO* "ifs", "ands" or "buts" about it. If it's abuse, it's abuse and to say "endure it" is what any intolerable person would say. You shouldn't be forced to stay in something that will hurt you, mentally and/or physically. Don't be the punching bag.
If it were upto me I’d force their ass into therapy (if we have kids together. I truly believe in modeling healthy relationships with both parents BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY) If there’s no kids and you really wanna try Then give them a chance to go to counseling. If not then get the fuck outta there or if they keep repeating. I’d honestly do everything I can to make it work until the kids are 18. Get family involved, get friends involved, get everyone involved to get them treatment. It’s 2023, Everyone knows what the fuck marriage is about now. Everyone knows what having kids is about now. There’s literally no more excuses for anyone.
You do have to endure it, this is why a nuclear family was stronger before, you think your grandma at one point might have not want to leave? but she didnt, she understood her assignment , to raise a family NO MATTER WHAT. now days women are just quitter. This is why I want men to not marry, IT IS A LIABILITY FOR US, THere is absolutely NO BENEFIT for men to marry.
🤓 Actually, when Destiny insults Melina, you could say it's verbal / emotional abuse. However they don't personally see it as serious abuse, they literally enjoy fighting and arguing. Melina ENDURES Destiny's antics and vice versa. So as I just demonstrated with an example that even a baby can understand, it's not always so cut and dry, there's a million things that feminists would consider abuse but that isn't actually abuse, and likewise there are things that you or even I might see as mental abuse but that a weird couple like Destiny and Melina would not. Almost like people have different levels of tolerance and different things they are looking for in a relationship. Almost like there are ifs and buts. 🤔 We can imagine a comedian couple would likely engage in very crude jokes on a daily basis. They would be making fun of each other's appearances but they wouldn't personally feel abused. However the exact same joke directed at a different girl would become abuse. So again we can see that the severity of abuse or whether there even is abuse or not actually depends on context and history. It's not black and white and it's extremely silly to pretend it is. Another example is Amber Heard vs Johnny Depp. Amber felt abused and convinced many people that she was abused, but the trial and evidence showed that Johnny Depp was the real victim. This is an example that illustrates that feeling abused doesn't mean you are abused. So no, abuse isn't always abuse. Abuse can be a term used by the abuser to gaslight the victim. Finally because everything can be considered a type of abuse it seems pretty obvious that most couples indeed endure certain behaviors, at least to some reasonable degree and don't break up over small issues. Instead they try to resolve those issues with compromise. When they're unable to find a solution is when the relationship becomes toxic and when they need to separate. However the point here is that they can and should try to fix issues if it can be fixed, and most problems can usually be fixed with proper communication (again reminder that we are not talking about physical abuse at any point). This idea that people should immediately divorce at the first sign of an issue is pretty laughable. Maybe talk about it first, don't keep things that bother you hidden. If your partner actually loves you he or she will try to be better. If you can't fix the relationship, then you should leave.
just for the record in the bible divorce is allowed if someone steps out on the marriage or if they are not a true follower of Christ. So if you are being abused in anyway please leave. God will still love you.
This is why I tell women to have something going on for themselves. Go to college. I have a bachelor degree in law and I am going for my master this coming September. My mom endured abuse, because she couldn’t go nowhere. She was not educated and couldn’t move on. Due to the abuse I have major health issues: panic disorder, depression and PTSD.
I agree, I'd never let my daughter be some chick who's fully dependent on her man. She should be able to have her own skills and or knowledge to take care of herself
This is why I don't understand the mentality these red pill dudes have where they think their wives/girlfriends should be 100% dependent on them. That's not healthy and a recipe for disaster. That's the entire point of feminism, putting the control in the woman's hands so abuse becomes less common. That's why the divorce rate was SO high in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. My grandmother was punched in the face by her alcoholic husband and had to endure over 15-20 years of abuse before she finally divorced his ass sometime in the 80s, and her kids left even before that.
Careful guys, because those Redpillers would call you problematic, because "college women destroy marriage"... Funny, when looking through the reports of these data, the writers, often marriage lawyers in these cases, would tell nuanced reasons that Redpillers refused to acknowledge, because these points often made them look bad. Seriously, Redpillers knew advocating for women to be financially independent and capable would diminish their supposed worth, so they couldn't allow it. They can't have other human beings as independent... Human beings...
No the bible says adultry is the only accepted reason for divorce. However the bible also says to love your wife like Christ loves the church. So beating your wife is against God. Anybody defending beating is an idiot.
I saw this on Twitter and was so mad. I grew up in a abusive home. My dad was very violent. I think it did have consequences for my mom’s psyche. She endured because she wasn’t educated and couldn’t just move on. Also she is religious. Divorce was an embarrassment. He cheated on her multiple times and beat her. They are still married but he is living with his side piece, but still cheating. Comparing “hard times” with being violent/abusive is beyond sick.
when Preach said ''people marry for the wrong reasons", he opened up a whole new brilliant way to actually have this conversation. Long conversation that needs to be spoken about that just emphasises the importance of "prevention is better than cure". wise bro
There’s something severely wrong with those guys to sit there and preach something like that. I actually am so shocked. Physical abuse is not okay and it’s 100% a good enough reason to leave somebody. Even more so if there’s kids involved, cause he/she could start abusing the kids. Even if they don’t, the kids could grow up to treat their loved ones the same way and suffer from severe ptsd.
It's really not strange when you see the violent way they speak about women. It starts with verbal violence. The online violent talk translates to their lives... "training your wife", etc.
These guys are clowns. Dude straight up said he would go over to his house and "teach him a lesson." Well what if he whoops your ass? Bring a gun? What if he kills you in self defense? Should she still endure, and stay married to the man who killed her jackass father? Yeah, these clowns don't have an answer for nuances in their view. They just live in a fantasy world not based in reality.
My sister got beaten to death by her partner when all of her family kept telling her to leave. He would beat her, buy flowers and say sorry, and beat her after he got comfortable again. Vicious cycle. Those men have no clue what they're talking about..
You dont “endure” abuse. You leave. End of story. Secondly no one just “ends up” in an abusive relationship. You ignore (or don’t know) the Red Flags of abuse. If you can recognize what those Flags are then you can end the relationship before marriage and/or kids and save yourself years of trauma.
define "abuse" please.... You son is married 10 years to a women.... 3 children (3yrs, 6yrs, and 8yrs,)... They get into an argument, and ONE TIME in the 10 years his wife SLAPS the fuck out of him two times and his face gets cut by her nails..... Your telling me, your going to tell your son to LEAVE NOW, break up his FAMILY, all because of ONE over reaction from his wife??? GTFOH with that bullshit... stop the cap.
True in a lot of cases of abuse, but not all of them. Many abusers are good liars and manipulators and they can flip a switch and show their true colors after you're already married.
You can definitely just end up in an abusive relationship. You never know what might happen after being together and life happens. Soldiers with PTSD, people who start developing addictions, etc.
My uncle abused his wife. Once my grandparents and uncles/mom found out they went to get the wife and kids and he hasn't been allowed to see any of them in private since and has basically been given the boot from the family. Thats the only acceptable response to domestic abuse, you're out.
I know someone whos wife abused the kids and he went through hell for years in the legal system instead of her just being put into jail on day one. Shes STILL not in jail.
@@jebes909090 that's insane. I don't come from a western countries. I'm African in my countries family issues and disputes are almost never dealt with by law enforcement which often means that if you have a good family they will defend you to hell and back. That's how my grandparents were able to just take the kids and my aunt out. Some women are unfairly given the children tho. That's how the patriarchy fucks us all over. Ideally the mother is suppose to be the safest person for the child but if she's not it takes a lot more to get that child away.
@Olly Nolly truth,contrary to popular belief african parents dont sit for that..they will take you back with the quickness. But those who love money will see you get fucked over.
No one should endure abuse no matter what religion you are from. I’m catholic and watching the whatever podcast got my eyes wide open. I couldn’t believe I just hear nonsense advice like that.Thanks Aba & Preach for calling this behavior out. Absolutely unacceptable behavior.
👋 I'm not sure what you mean when you say your eyes are now open, but please don't think these men represent the Catholic church. I don't know about the 2 men to the right, but the one on the left is definitely not Catholic. He's either non-denominational or Protestant. Either way, they aren't Catholic representatives. I think Preach may have gotten that idea because Catholicism was mentioned once in that clip. The church does encourage people to get away from abuse, which includes legal divorce. Now, in the eyes of the church, you're still married unless you seek an annulment. But the church allows you to divorce in the event of abuse so you can stay safe.
Watched my mom “endure” beatings from her boyfriend over multiple years when I was a kid. Same guy also abused two of my siblings at the time and has only recently pleaded guilty to use of deadly force against my baby brother who is no longer alive. Personally, I resent my mother for keeping that guy around because I got no clue why she allowed any of that to happen.
Two reasons for it. Self esteem because your mother felt the boyfriend was the best she could get/ what she deserved because he "loved" her. And people would rather be in an abusive relationship than be alone, because they want the abuser to be responsible for them because "Real life" is hard work for single mothers and they think a partner reduces their load. Hence why so many single moms drop their knickers for first guy who pretends they like children, not catching on that it's a ruse just to get sex/ free place to live/ find people to exploit and abuse
@@philwill0123 exactly, these victims rather take a beating (and plenty of them allow their kids to be abused or deadly force) just because they don't want to be alone... selfish weakness is what I call that!
Aba nailed it towards the end with "they care more about their feelings then women's physical safety." That also explains why the panel kept saying abuse is so rare. In their world view men are always right or the victims, abuse is often seen as men being the perpetraters, so it has to be discounted.
I'll never understand the idea of "just endure it" in any relationship that has physical or mental abuse. It makes zero sense, people like that don't change.
As someone who grew up in a household where my father became a physical abusive alcoholic I'm happy and lucky that my mother decided to sacrifice a lot to raise me and my siblings by herself instead of eventually possibly getting murdered.
You dodge a bullet. I came the same type of household, but mom didn't left. What happens is the family would designate one child to be the blacksheep/whipping boy to take all the abuse. Just so they can function as a normal family.
Or they could have helped stop him from drinking..... ??? you said he BECAME this way when he was drinking.... sounds like an easy fix, that DOESNT require wracking your own home.....just saying
I was a nurse and I saw a women broken ribs disfigured face horrible and all that was done by her husband.. she was in a critical state life-death kinda situation we weren't near a big city so they had to rush her to a hospital by helicopter... from what I was told she tried to leave many times but could'nt and I still think of her I hope she's okay and left this time..
@@yasmeen9592 sadly.. even tho not alot commit those atrocities most would rather mind their business then help raise awerness we need more men like aba & preach for real 😩
You clearly see the age of their life experiences in the way they tell abuse victims to “just endure”. It’s giving the same energy as “oh, you’re depressed? Go outside! Smile more!”
Lmao you do know therapist recommend people with depression go outside and walk And don't say well that not the only solution, literally no one had claimed that
@berrymckockiner5883 I don’t think the issue was the advice itself. In this context, it doesn’t come across as genuine advice. It’s rude asf and it assumes that people with depression aren’t already working hard to maintain a better health.
Thats what my dad used to tell me. It's all in my head. I'm doing it to myself. Mind over matter. As I lay there shaking uncontrollably on the floor from a seizure xD
When I was 9 my mom used to beat my dad and constantly abuse me and my sister and we ALL wanted her gone yet my dad kept bringing back from jail to the house and I think to this day the 1st day she tried to come home she should have been thrown out. My dad should have divorced her a long time ago. I hate people who advocate for staying in abusive relationships. I pray these people stop thinking that way and pushing that for the children who went through what me and my sister went through.
Back in the day, I used to hear, "you too young to be tired" and now hearing "everybody gives up too easily/quickly" gave me that same feeling. It has/is always bad to dismiss stuff like that because it has reflected so drastically in the work environment where you hear the same thing but in a more pc way to overwork everyone and put up with it with the illusion of gettin further in life
What’s wild is these guys talk about how they are Christian’s through out that episode. I am a Christian too, and any time I’ve known anyone who is in an abusive relationship, I’ve encouraged them to leave.
@@dennisongaye2985 if there is any abuse you should prob leave, its a relationship both of the people in it should not be verbally or physically abusive, grown ass people should known how to resolve things without having a fist fight, not even teenage boys nowadays get in as many fights as some couples
@@Ticketman99 I'm not talking about MLD , I'm talking about Chase , the christian, he was pretty much against abuse, he said that if it was his daughter he'll go talk to the husband, and if he's toxic it's advisable for divorce to take place .. Btw I'm also a christian, and abuse isnt allowed in marriage because the bible says husbands should love their wives, if they abuse their wives they've basically sinned against God too
No love, no respect, no companionship, no trust With abuse, physical or psychological, there is only fear and resentment. That's not a marriage, that's hell
My grandfather used to beat my grandmother bad enough to land her in the hospital, along with beating my mom and her siblings. That, and would gamble the money away from work and leave her, my mom, and my aunts and uncles to starve and be homeless. He also cheated on my grandmother like crazy too. The ONLY reason she stayed with him was because women couldn’t own bank accounts at the time and divorce was looked down upon back then. While he did get himself together when he was old enough, the damage had been done. She didn’t love him and didn’t even shed a tear at his funeral. She traveled, did new things, tried new stuff, etc. And she made it clear that loved being single more than married.
As a child from an abusive home, I would have much preferred to be in a single parent household than to endure the trauma I was forced to endure. My violent childhood affects my life every single day! Complex-PTSD and a plethora of autoimmune diseases causes from constantly being in flight or fight mode... Since childhood. NEVER STAY WITH AN ABUSER!!!!!! NEVER!
as a child from a single mother home i would have much preferred to be in a two parent household than to endure the trauma i was forced to endure. my violent childhood affects my life every single day with C-PTSD social issues and not being taught how to live or do nearly anything an adult should know....since childhood NEVER JUST BELIEVE YOU'RE MOTHER!!! EVER! ... now see how i had the same experience but likely worse cause my mom lied and was a single mother? 2 opposites of the same coin
@@ganjatheninjaso you're saying being in a two-parent household with the same mother that you grew up with would have been better? You don't know that for certain. You think it would be better, which is just an opinion.
I would much rather wish to not have been born period!. My mother was a single mom, and a hairdresser. At work she was praised, at home she was a monster. Who was extremely violent , bipolar, and abusive. And my father was a pimp and a drug dealer. Went to prison, and came out ten times more violent. Two dysfunctional people who had no fucking business having sex in the first place. 🤡😑😞
Nah I can effortlessly prove you're wrong: If your gf calls you a dumbass do you divorce her or do you endure? 🤔 If you stay with her why? That's like, verbal abuse. 🤔🤔 If you think all abuse is equal and never acceptable then you think all couples should break up the second someone says something mean. 🤣 Anyone with a brain can see that this is the mentally ill position.
@@madelaine2222 stop.assuming. I'm just saying sometimes it does work out. Sometimes it does not. you got to figure out for yourself what your willing to deal with. I would advise not dealing with drunk or junkies or angry people but some people will deal with them and sometimes it works out and sometimes it does not. Your life is your own
My mom packed me and my brother up and we all took a plane from New York to Florida because my dad was so abusive. Hearing your mom scream for help when you can’t do anything is a million times worse than growing up without a dad. It was a better situation for all of us. I didn’t miss him at all. Ya’ know why? Because when you grow up with your dad abusing your mom, you don’t talk, you don’t have fun, it’s just quiet and uncomfortable around them unless they’re yelling at you or telling you what to do. You fear them. It was a relief.
“It’s so rare” when talking about abusive relationships, ummm no it’s not…like at all. 1 in 5 murder victims are killed by their romantic partner. These are the type of dudes to say they argue with facts not feelings but blatantly ignore facts. You guys nailed it, it’s scary there’s people out there that think differently.
Nah theh still be tight for the vast majority of people in relationship they aren’t beating the shit out they partnered it happens but when compared to overall population it’s not common
@@canonhayes9330 if 1/5 people are being abused that would mean 4 times as many aren’t so does it happen to often yes but is it something that’s to be expected to happen when you enter a relation ship No
@@Truejota you realise women are more likely to be the perpetrators of both mental and physical abuse? Both in domestic relationships and mother child relationships....
My uncle was married to an abusive harpy of a woman and thankfully divorced her despite being a devout Christian. I was in an abusive and it only got worse and worse. I ended up with a gun pointed at me and I’m glad it clicked in my head that there was only a few escalated steps left between me and death. Peace and love to those who left
I'd grown up in both situations, abusive household and then single parent. I used to watch my mother cowering as my father screamed at her, putting holes in the walls next to her head. My mother crying into my birthday cake as she decorated it, tasting the strange salty parts at my birthday at Peter Piper Pizza and knowing exactly what it was. I remember a step dad beating my brother bloody and him coming to lay in bed with me and my sister, and we were too young to do anything as this two year old child was bleeding between us as we held him. All of us under 10 years old. I also remember my mother struggling to do it all alone. The help and support from my maternal grandparents and half living with them as my mother worked at times. It takes a village, and I found that my mother was a broken woman that survived things, allowed bad things into her life that hurt her children, and then sacrificed everything to make sure that didn't happen again. I'd gained a fair amount of trauma and some issues, as well as respect for my mother to some degree. She wasn't prepared for a lot of things, and often times dealt with things the wrong way. I am very happy that I was able to see the mistakes, knowing what I didn't want to endure and what wasn't healthy. In the same hand, I also have issues because I didn't have a dad like other people. More jealousy than anything else, and resentment. I'm happy that I'm autistic, so logic and reason, working things out so they make sense has been a strong point for me. There's not as much emotion in my life decisions, which has brought me to make smarter choices. But damn, growing up seeing your mother trembling and terrified of your father. And then a stepmother (the only reason we saw our dad after he remarried) battered and bloody as he did those things with us in the home? That fucks people up. That effects and traumatizes in ways that people who hadn't lived through that wouldn't be able to fully comprehend. As someone who was a party to both single parent and abusive parent to child and abusive to spouse, I can say that the single parent where the one parent still wasn't capable of offering all that a child needs was infinitely better.
@@kcb8130 sounds like you're ignorant, most people don't ignore red flags and intentionally get into relationships with bad people they just fail to recognise those red flags early on because abusers are good at lying and manipulating their victims. Stop victim blaming and repeating ridiculous red pill talk points.
I agree with you both NOBODY should stay in no relationship with any form of abuse. It’s far worse to stay for the innocent children involved this discussion triggered me 😞💔
My mother is used be the assistant district attorney and the cases she’s prosecuted where family abuse cases. Luckily my family didn’t have it but doing those cases took a toll on my moms mental health to the point she stepped down and now prosecutes minor cases. She’s told me a few and hearing that jack-off say “endure it” almost made me yell out in rage, honestly if it comes out he abuses his partner I’m not going to be that surprised
crazy how meotional you are when he simply did NOT say to endure BEING BEATEN he was talking about DIVORCE in general, ALL AROUND.... Do you leave someone JUST because they hit you ONCE??? What if the woman slaps the man?? You breaking up the family and leaving your wife JUST for one slap in 20 years??? GTFOH over your mother complaining about her job to her child. You are the SAME type of person who would WATCH while a women is beaten on the subway or on the street just STFU, and so being so emotional and think LOGICALLY. That was a CONVERSATION, not a 5 second clip. Go watch the WHOLE video. Stop being ignorant. *And I cant wait till the day you go to tell your children "im leaving your mother because she slapped me one time".... HAVE FUN with that.* ROFL!!! oh wait.... let me guess? its COMPLETELY DIFFERENT if the women is the violent one, uh?
I did yell out in rage honestly. The nonsense he was spewing was some the stupidest, most sick in the head and disgusting horseshit I've heard in a while.
As someone that grew up in a household with abusive parents. It really does screw up how relationship dynamics works when you get older. It was hard for me to understand what love is. It was hard for me to be trustung about anything. I never hit a woman in my life because i knew it was bad. But everything else was taight to me by watching. They are still together. My mom has mental issues now. My dad still snaps into a rage aboit nothing. When me and my wife got married and she got pregnant we decided the best course of action would be to just disappear from my parents because we did not want q child growing up around that at all. Best decision i ever made.
Hey, good for you making that call. Some people will say 'blood is thicker than water' but as someone else from an abusive family, fuck that notion. It's not right for kids to experience that kind of suffering, even just passively with them being around. I hope you're happy and have a very fulfilling life.
@@rasmachris94 that's a actually a huge misconception. The quote really goes like this 'The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb.' It really means that chosen bonds are stronger than blood ties.
@GrAc3 - makes sense, I used it in that context because its what's spouted even though its incredibly harmful. Family can be as toxic and dangerous to you as strangers. The idea that you owe them anything just because you're related by blood is absurd. You owe no one anything in this life.
Redpill Imploding. Theycry about single parent households but abusive households are better. What example are you setting for your kids by enduring physical violence from the person who is supposed to protect you?
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From the title it sounds worse 😕
Just endure it guys 😂
aint no way you changed your profile pic to Peaches and Cream 😂😂😂
You need to endure it Aba
That wasn't red pill, that was Catholicism.
I'm not married, but domestic abuse is a one-way ticket to divorce. Violence shouldn't be tolerated nor endured. How is this not common sense to these people?
theres people out there that stay in toxic abusive relationships
I suppose after the guy gets out of jail, he'll act right.
Maybe that's what they think.
Bc domestic abuse... hold on to your hats..
IS A CRIME
Because they're retarded and living in their own little world.
This is the internet, where the vast majority of people don't know shit and have little life experience. They think they know everything but they live in their own little echo chamber and don't go outside that much.
We teach abuse towards kids all the time without even knowing it.
@@kc270352 yes and they are wrong for staying in those relationships and the church has to be more open to annulling those types of marriages
Please! If you are watching this video and you are in an abusive relationship, DONT endure! Leave!!!
Sometimes it isnt that easy. People usually need a support system, federal protection and self defense lessons and a new identity
@@lola-ford well duh, that’s a given. I think they’re just trying to encourage people using an argument that conflicts the one shown in the podcast Aba and preach are watching
I'm gonna hack it. I love my wife so much, i call her punches "love taps".
Problem is u shouldnt have to be told to leave it's common sense and if u stay well like preach says mental health get help fr
@@lola-ford sometimes. Most times people stay because they think the abuser will change
To ‘endure’ domestic violence is only something an abuser would say… in any form.
Financial, physical, emotional, coercive ANYTHING!! Dude whoa 😳
If traditional marriage and traditional relationships needs to endure all of them. Including gas lighting, narcissm, manipulation etc. Then i want no part of it.
If you guys haven't seen yet they did a new video on him specifically he glassed a woman in a Club in Japan and said some foul shit in group chats he got charged for the glassing thing BTW sooooo ya
Give yourself a pat on the back because you ended up being right. Dude has some skeletons in his closet
Financial abuse ? Explain
@@Kamkazi-gc5be restricting their partners access to money to buy personal items or household goods and food are examples
"Divorce isn't a real thing" Yeah denying a thing that has been legal for hundreds of years in some cases is a great way to show your intelligence lmao
He's trying to morally Grand stand. In the New Testament, Jesus says God never really intended divorce to be legal in Israel, but he made that compromise to get more adherence from his chosen people, the Jews.
It's overall, a dumb, self-aggrandizing position to take. God has obviously forgiven Christians for thousands of years for divorces. And they even contradict themselves later on where they try to cite the old testament's Jewish laws for divorce: having proof of adultery was grounds for divorce. The same laws that Jesus said God didn't intend to allow. Which is what they appealed to by saying "I don't believe in divorce."
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These people are just LARPers. Just like JustPearlyThings or Fresh and Fit, or anyone else on the Internet that always has to be right (everyone that disagrees with them has to be stupid).
The divorce be realer than the whole " marriage"
@RespectTheSpirits "The first U.S. divorce, according to history, occurred in Massachusetts in 1643". "Divorce first became legal in France on September 20, 1792." And note I did specify "in some cases". Gotta read man. Google it
Also got Henry VIII, but he also beheaded his wives 💀
@@moomanchu608 yeah don't think murder counts as a divorce lmao
You “endure” hardship as a team. Things like sickness, loss of a job, miscarriages, etc. are things a couple should come together to get through. You don’t endure one partner harming and abusing the other, because you are no longer on the same side.
Omg, this!
This here.
Had to scroll too far to find this.
Word
They said separate, they didnt say continue to get beat up,
It's sickening how divorce is the greater sin than abuse to these guys.
No it's not. Adultery is and beating your wife Is a more offensive sin than divorce. Because God loves all of his children.
It’s not considered a sin. No where in the Bible is it a sin. Marriage was added as a pillar to the church in the 15th century. During biblical days a woman was considered property hence the reason she was considered tainted if touched by another man and killed.
@@Itsallaboutlove52 exactly this. I was using sin colloquially.
@@Itsallaboutlove52 lies. In Deuteronomy it clearly states if a woman is assaulted or *aped, the abuser has to pay tribute to the family of the victim bc he defiled her. I challenge you to find a scripture backing up what you said. You wont.
@@truthfulpurposeI think they meant divorce isn't a sin. Idk tho
I think it’s clear that the people who say “just endure with someone who beats you” have never really been beaten or verbally assaulted in their life. It’s really a place of extreme privilege to be so naive to not comprehend how awful it is. I’ve never been beaten but I’ve had 12 hour shifts with incredibly verbally abusive patients before. Being called just awful names for 12 hours really wears on you. It’s exhausting and demeaning. Now imagine it’s not some dumb patient you’re being paid to care for but in fact a person you love and can never escape from. The absolute bubble these people must live in to not realize how damaging this is to both the victim and the children who have to endure it.
Ding dong! If these people that said that want to stay and work things out, please do as you like. We are people with self respect and dignity will leave and live our life to the fullest without those BS😅
As someone who has never experienced that it shocks me that they could even think that’s okay
I feel like people that think like this are abusers themselves. That's why they try to play it down so much
You're absolutely correct. Or they have the privilege of never having had (or at least to their knowledge) their own family members like their mother or sister go through that. I think had they witnessed their father beating their mother or saw a black eye on their sister knowing it came from a guy who is way bigger than her and should have never laid hands on her, their take would be much different.
Unfortunately, all too often it is the other way around: they have been abused so often and from such a young age that they have normalized it. In that case, the "just endure it" phrase is less of a boast and more of a repetition of what they believe to be "common sense". After all, if one's terrible situation doesn't seem abnormal and there is no one around willing to help you out (or even point out that the situation is bad/abnormal), it is all too easy to believe that "it's just how things are". In that case, the conclusion people in these situations typically come to is that it will never change or get better, so they'll just have to live with it. Is it nice, fair, or even reasonable? No, but unfortunately, it is a sad reality many face.
As a Christians I CRINGED when that guy said “JuSt EnDuRe iT 🥴”…. Ladies, if anyone tries to use the Word of God against you, remind them that God called men to LOVE their wives as Christ loved the church, which he ended up giving his life for in the most gruesome way.
Jesus literally said you can ONLY get divorced if they cheat on your sexually, that's the only exception. Jesus also said remarriage is a sin, so if you get divorced at 25 you have to be single and celibate until you die at 85.
You can ONLY get divorced if there's sexual adultery. It's literally in the bible.
You can get separated and live in different houses, but you can't legally get divorced.
Christianity is imperfect but you will deny the fact that it has flaws.
As a fellow christian, i agree 100%
Yeah I’m really sick of these ultra conservative/red pilled people that claim to be extremely religious mostly Christians.
Like holy shit most of you didn’t even read once the Bible or if you didn’t understand anything about it’s messages ...
Im not even religious but these people just preach water and drink whine is sickening
Facts... these boys don't even know what they're talking about
Don’t listen to them, they’re just reactionaries trying to get a reaction, they’re not Christian’s, this way of thinking is so evil. I’m Catholic and I’ve never thought this way in my life smh
My parents were devout Catholics, married for 56 years. They had "normal" hard times. I'm one of 9 bc Mom felt it was sinful to use birth control, even though she disagreed with the rule. My parents were wonderful and my dad used to joke that the key to marriage is "endurance". When they saw that I was being verbally and mentally tormented in my relationship, they stayed out of it. When I went to them for help and told them how bad things really were (husband was a meth addict who stalked me at work, etc), they told me to kick him out immediately and tell him that I didn't need his money. They supplemented me financially until I could get an apartment that I could afford on my own. A marriage only means something when both people stick to the vows. ALL of them. When you break the vows, you break the covenant.
that’s a sign of good parenting
Even in Islam abusing your women is seen as one of the most terrible sins and i have very devout muslim parents and i have never seen my parents get physical but of course hard times did occur but those i think are usually normal
9 kids tho...how old was she had the first one? She never used birth control her entire life?
@@lalahua6552 bc doesn't prevent pregnancy if that's where you're trying to go.
@@lalahua6552 She married my dad at 19, had my oldest brother at 24, and had me right before her 38th birthday. She couldn't get pregnant for a few years because of a thyroid issue. Then after me, my parents used the "rhythm method", which I highly don't recommend! Even though she didn't get pregnant using it, I think that was just pure luck. It's when you time your ovulation. So no birth control ever.
I'm an Irish Catholic and my grandmother used to get beaten by her father before she married my grandfather. My grandfather didn't know this happened until she showed up with a black eye about four months before the wedding. He told her that she was moving in with him that day and to stay at his house (now their house), and he would go to get her things. He showed up at her parents' house and gave him a beating worse than all of the beatings he gave his daughter combined. He then got my grandmother's things and left.
My grandfather promised my grandmother before leaving that he wouldn't kill him, and to his credit he kept his promise, but he also did what had to be done.
Respect
Based
BASED GRANDDAD
Bless him.
Now that’s a REAL man! Protecting his wife’s honor!
I grew up with an abusive alcoholic father with a mom who ENDURED for the sake of her 5 children. My family line is filled with domestic abuse and they always stayed together because it would be considered shameful to leave. My dad has thankfully calmed down after he got older and my siblings threatened him. However, there's always fear his rage will come back and he will hurt her. After many attempts to get my mom to leave, she still believes she must ENDURE. I have a host of issues including Complex PTSD, have a hard time keeping relationships, and boundary issues I’m working on. I don’t even know what it means to be in a secure relationship because there were no models growing up. So please folks don’t fucking ENDURE this bullshit.
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I agree with your comment so much my mom also stayed with my dad for appearances sake and me and my brother were more miserable because of it
enduring CONSITANT abuse is never okay and he NEVER implied that or said that
but you would be IGNORANT AS FUCK to leave, break up your FAMILY, all b/c someone hit someone ONE TIME.....stfu with that weak shit
You know DAMN WELL if you had a son....who was married for 10 years, with 3 kids (3yrs, 6yrs, and 8yrs).... He gets into an argument with his wife and she SLAPS THE FUCK out of him 3 times in the fact, cutting his face with her nails, and pushes him into the wall.....
You would tell him to LEAVE NOW!!! break up that family, leave those kids in a divorced family, separate holidays and bdays and all, just b/c of ONE TIME being "physically abused"
Let me guess.... "well thats different!!!"
Almost exact same scenario. As the oldest I saw EVERYTHING, and let me tell you, it was the biggest relief for my family once my father left entirely. Life was so much better and we could finally start healing after a terrifying decade of mistreatment.
The dude that aggressively said "endure" seems like the kind of guy who is very willing to give a couple backhanded slaps when things don't go his way
Turns out that's exactly what he does. And he smashes glass bottles on women's faces.
@@YourMomsNewHusbandwho is he??
@@allisonthompson8221
John Hogwood, he is PUA scammer and a scumbag.
The kind of reply a socialised psychopath would give is 'endure', or from someone who has led a relatively sheltered life without real suffering. That's what is killing our society, division and judgement.
@@allisonthompson8221I think he is MLD. Some generic redpiller degenerate.
It’s unreal how people refuse to go against the agenda they’re pushing, women should absolutely leave if they’re abused just like men should also leave if they’re being abused.
You can't as man
You'd think it would be common sense!🤷🏽♀️ It's like people have joined a cult. They agree with whatever group they joined no matter how absurd!!
@@TheGreySage0 sadly, you are correct, because our courts and the justice system is messed up.
@@kladies3021 facts
I'm 100% certain you'd clown a dude claiming he was getting abused by his wife.
My father was abusive and my mother "endured" because 'she "loved" him. Meanwhile we kids had to 'endure' as well. The only thing that made it somewhat tolerable was that it didn't happen often-but often enough. We all got in the habit of running out the one door when he came in the other, to avoid him. The yell of "Dad's home!" was a warning klaxon to take cover, not a welcome exclamation of delight. I left home as soon as I could and never looked back. And when my father died, and I got the call, I shrugged indifferently and went about my day. I will probably do much the same when my mother dies. She failed us, and now accepts no responsibility for making our childhood a hell of fear and uncertainty.
I mean this is the most non judgemental way possible, I hope you go to therapy, that’s a lot for one person to unpack, help isn’t a bad thing even when you don’t think it necessary.
Damn that's hard
You just told the story of my life, my father beat the ish out of us for more than two decades. Today, I don't talk to one of them.
im sorry to hear that but your mom didnt abuse u guys atleast but their are some people sadly who fall in love to deep and give her another chance she probably didnt mean to get you guys hurt
I agree with you 💯. This coming from a woman who had an extremely violent and abusive father. I was also indifferent to his death. The only reason I attended his funeral is because of my brother and sister. Funny thing is I don't even feel bad about it. Lol. And for the bird brains that are saying you should take it easy on your mother, more than likely never had to endure the abuse you went through, but have he audacity to advise you on how to process your trauma. I'm sorry, but a woman's love for her children should always trump her love for her man. Your mother shouldn't have kept you and your siblings in that situation.
Physical abuse& cheating are both grounds for a permanent breakup regardless of who's the victim/ victimizer.
Those are both grounds for permanently ending the other person regardless of whose the victim victimizer
To think that some people got HIV/AIDS and other STDs because of unfaithful partners💔
I've been abused by every woman I've dated . My last ex hit me in the face in front of all of her friends and humiliated me . But I'm a guy so I couldn't so anything except take it and she knew it ...
Long story short , I took her right eye .
@@kraevinmoorehed1776 You need to choose better women my guy...
@@kraevinmoorehed1776 You blinded her right eye? Brutal, I like it.
I was in a abusive marriage. I was almost killed by my soon to be ex husband. I now have a permanent protection order. No one should go through what I have been through for years. Love you both.
May hell come into existence simply to torment his vile soul.
I'm happy you got out of that!
@@Remedy462 What an egotistical thing to say. You want a concept that is supposed to be applied to humanity as a whole to just appear cause of one random person who just so happened to stumble upon within the internet domain.
As much as I am glad she is safe now from that situation, it's honestly annoying to hear these overtly positive and idealistic desires to try and mentally comfort the victims. Reality is quite brutal and unfair in many cases, and a lot more people need to come to terms with that. Sometimes those who cause the most harm get the best qualities of life going forward, and the victims sometimes get the worst outcomes for the rest of their days.
Stay safe...
I do not understand, how do so many of you end up with guys that beat you? How do so many have such a trash method of selecting partners? This is wild
I had a friend that 'endured' because of the children and one day he just went off the deep end and stabbed her. He's in jail, she's not here anymore and the kids are being raised by her parents. She 'endured' for the sake of the kids not being in a single parent home and now she's not here. That one dude is f*cking delusional.
BUt It'S jUSt a SmALl pERcEnTAgE of RElAtIOnShiPS!
I'm truly sorry for that happening, thank you for highlighting what can happen when you stay too long.
I’m so sorry ❤
If you watched the podcast, they said you should seperate, not continue to be beat up
@@MrsDazl nah, domestic violence is common and in certain countries alarmingly high!
The fact that they think that beating your partner in front of your child isn’t damaging, but the partner/wife cheating does. Both are extremely tolling on children
I like how divorce is the worst thing in the world but physically abusing the mom in front of the kids leads to perfectly well adjusted kids as god intended.
Yup people seem to not seem to care that cheating and beating is physically and emotionally abuse.
@@TurtleChad1 you fell off, get help turtle
I grew up with my parents divorced and watched my moms husband try day in and out to abuse her and as a kid i never stood for that shit and always got into it until with him till she left that nigga, now im grown and lets just say dat nigga knows better now just glad i wasnt like these niggas in the podcast thinking men hitting women is acceptable
Single parent houshold are responsible for majority of the problems in society,
The worst thing you can do to your child is get a divorce
As a survivor of severe domestic abuse, during pregnancy and after, to the point of blacking out being strangled many times and being told he’d murder me and throw me in a well where no one would find me in the woods near his house, beating me viciously and destroying me mentally all while I carried our infant inside me and then cared for our child while working full time and going to paramedic school full time to support us because he refused to work, thank you. It wasn’t until the last time he strangled me and I looked over to my sleeping infant realizing I’d be murdered next to him and he’d grow up with this monster that I gained the strength to chance being murdered while trying to escape for our lives over staying and being murdered anyways…. He’s now graduating second grade, we are thriving and I’m a stay at home mother in a healthy relationship.
Thank you for talking about this and how prevalent and unacceptable and damaging abuse is.
I also grew up watching my mother being beaten and drug use and being starved and neglected and statistically when you grow up around DV the cycle will repeat.
The cycle stops with me and any woman brave enough to leave.
Here’s to all the beautiful women that tried to “endure” or were broken down to a shell, too afraid to try to escape or who DID escape and lost their lives as a result. ❤
Wow, I'm glad you are doing well now.
Stay strong
Glad you made it out! Too many people don't know how DV really impacts people or how they work. Those men obviously know nothing. Probably wouldn't know it even if they saw it because for them it's ok. It's sick.
How did you even end up in a situation like that?
@@justadummy8076 A lot of the times, the person seems trustworthy or funny. They get into a relationship then the manipulation and abuse starts.
It’s heart breaking to see how common this is. Yet women who divorce over this are chastised and judged as single mothers by Red Pill channels like Just Pearly Things.
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Yes, it happened to me. Now I’m a single mom and it’s apparently because I chose this.
She is no longer part of our movement
I've never heard anyone chastised over leaving an abusive situation. Usually the opposite.
@@prestokrs1 they constantly shit on single mothers despite the fact that they could have left due to situations like abuse and assume that every single time a woman wants a divorce its some frivolous reason.
Watching this video absolutely infuriates me. Ya’ll should look up Ronnie O’Neil, a man who abused his girlfriend. She “endured” because of their kids together. She endured all that right up until the day he walked into the house, shot his girlfriend, and hacked her 9 year old disabled daughter to death with a hatchet. He took their young son and laid him on the ground, stabbing him also. His girlfriend was last heard screaming to 911 that she was being murdered. The mom and daughter both died, but young 8 year old Ronnie O’Neil survived his wounds. He bravely faced his father in court, and was adopted by a detective who helped rescue him.
Suggesting that people like her don’t leave their abusers and just “endure for the sake of the relationship” is the height of assholery and Ignorance, and it has fatal consequences.
Shoutout to Aba and Preach for standing up to this insanity.
Amazing how people like you do exactly what the guy says in the video and automatically jump to extremea
That was such a horrible case, RIP to the victims, I hope the brave Son has a better future and may that Ronnie guy rot!!!
@@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo you do realize death is the end result for many people in abusive relationships right? It’s not that extreme to think someone who’s willing to physically take things that far with someone they claim to love would be willing to kill them too.
@@schokococoa575 a lot of the death is also accidently. It just takes hitting the wrong place or landing wrong to die. Not leaving just means waiting for death.
@@schokococoa575 all of this. I’m not sure where the extremism is.
"The one that started the abuse is the one that gave up."
That's gold right there my dude.
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The first time your man/girl puts hands on you, contact the police file a report, press charges. It isn't a one-time thing. It will only get worse.
What if she pokes you in the ass as a “joke” with a KNIFE?
Then learn to take a joke bruh. It’s just a knife bruh!
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I've honestly never heard of a time where it "stops".... It always gets worse
@@Arander92 What if someone found where you live drove by your house and shot your windows out as a joke? Be a good sport, little guy!
Claiming that divorce isn't real doesn't make divorce not real
If divorce isn’t real, does that mean marriage isn’t real either
@@BridgetWalker-eu3lzdon’t lump all Catholics together pls, not all of us think in these very reactionary ways. His names John Doyle and he’s some idiot working for daily wire or something. Many Catholics don’t think like this. He’s just some idiot who used Christianity as a political tool
I'd rather live in a society where people can get divorced for the most minor of reasons than one where people are pressured to endure abuse.
No need for divorce why not just be seperated?
I agree. And I don't even support Divorce like that, but come on. It's about having the option
Summarized it perfectly
There are both still bad. Choosing a lesser of evil doesn't make it good
@@Agent47001 What? But what if you want to marry someone else? And the fact that you don't want the person to be tied to you in any way
I graduated high school in a Catholic school. One day, we had a discussion with our priest who was also our principal about marriages. One of my classmates pointed out the same situation. The question was something talong the line ls of "What if my spouse was abusing me or my children? Is separation not an option then?" Our principal answered, "No. In that situation, you are allowed to leave the marriage. God would never want to harm you, so he would want you to leave a household where you are being harmed."
If a man of the cloth, a person whose beliefs value marriage as a blessed thing, tells you to not take abuse just to stay in a marriage, you get the fck out. Don't listen to this endure shit. There is always an answer and someone who is willing to help.
My pastors said the same thing. They were always very anti divorce and pro reconciliation, but it anyone is ever in physical danger LEAVE do not ENDURE.
EDIT: my pastors were not catholic btw. Born again tongue speaking evangelical pentecostalists
It's just logic
The guy who said endure was "red pill". I don't know why aba and preach made it seem like they were all catholics and they were all saying to endure abusive relationships.
I would advise you watch the long form video.
Exactly, this endure abuse stance is not a catholic belief.
@@i.byakubu2354that's true, from the exchange, only Destiny seems to have been raised Catholic.
My ex-wife didn't know how to deal with her emotions in a healthy way and found it hard to let go of anything I did that she didn't like. I've been hit, had things thrown at me, and even had to wrestle a knife out of her hands once. I stayed because I was her husband, and it's a husband's duty to protect the woman he vowed to love and cherish. But after years of abuse escalating and falling deeper and deeper into depression and misery, I had to put a stop to it. I separated and eventually divorced her and sought therapy to make sure I dealt with any trauma that might have been lingering.
I'm glad I left. I've built myself back up. And I met someone some years later who blessed my life by showing me what real love felt like. The kind of love that uplifts you both. Having verbal disagreements and arguments is one thing, but physical abuse and constantly putting your loved ones down like they are garbage is not ok.
Thank you for sharing your story. A lot of people don't take abuse against men seriously but all abuse is wrong.
Salute!!! My ex wife was verbally abuse but I was told it wasn’t that big a deal. The relationship was never violent but she would withhold sex as punishment. The longest was a year and a half. We had 2 kids so I tried to stick it out. But she began seeing a guy from her past. I gave her an ultimatum and she decided she didn’t want to be married. She divorced me and told me we would remarry in 2 years. After I healed from the trauma I meet someone and she did her best to destroy the relationship. I married the woman I meet and it’s been 7+ years of a loving peaceful relationship. We have 2 children. The ex wife remarried and my children have not seen her husband since 2018. My children are going through narcissistic trauma with her. It’s definitely a double standard with men.
What would you have done if you had 2 children with her and you’re worried she would take it out on them? Hypothetically of course.
Glad you left! She would have gotten progressively worse. If you had children I hope they ended up with you. Abuse of any kind physical or psychological from men or women is a deal breaker.
@@LemonlimeDRink Luckily we didn't have kids. But if that were the case I probably would have held off leaving her just long enough to seek legal counsel and figure out the best way to approach obtaining custody of my kids. What that would have looked like in the end I honestly can't say, but I would have done everything I could to make it happen. Then proceed with the inevitable court battle.
The other guy: there’s no such thing as divorce..
Melina: what if she cheats..
All of them: divorce..
If child sees constant abuse, he has increased chances to continue that cycle of abuse as a grown-up. It's crazy to suggest to stay in a family like that.
That’s what happened with my father. My paternal grandfather abused by paternal grandmother and they briefly got divorced when he was 6 years old but got back together only two years later. My father treated my mom the same way but she left him and never came back to him. My grandad(mom’s dad) was an orphan and was raised by his grandparents but he never talked about how his parents died and rarely ever talked about his childhood. I figured out why when I started getting into genealogy, I discovered that his dad shot his mom three times in the back during an outdoor church service when he was only three years old. I was shocked and blown away and nobody else in the family(except my grandma) knew about it. I talked to my grandma about what I discovered and she told me about how my grandads dad was an abusive alcoholic and she left him and took my grandad and his baby sister with her and was planning on getting a divorce. So he killed her, served a short prison sentence, my grandad was sent to be raised by his paternal grandparents while his sister was adopted and raised by their maternal grandparents. We all agreed that he’d never know that we knew about his parents and let him believe that he was taking his biggest secret to the grave. It would’ve killed him if he knew that his kids, grandkids, and great-grandkids all knew about it. I’m very proud of my grandad for breaking the cycle and for becoming a greater man than his father ever was and I’m especially proud that I take after him. This is why these pious pricks are making my blood boil right now. They’re just as bad as the feminists they complain about.
They're giving out hog shit aneuristic takes bro they're frauds for this reason. These "red pill" men need to get their shit beat in to truly understand how that isn't ok
You do have to endure it, this is why a nuclear family was stronger before, you think your grandma at one point might have not want to leave? but she didnt, she understood her assignment , to raise a family NO MATTER WHAT. now days women are just quitter. This is why I want men to not marry, IT IS A LIABILITY FOR US, THere is absolutely NO BENEFIT for men to marry.
That is exactly what happened with me. And I refuse to continue that.
If my wife attacked me even ONCE, it’s over. No exceptions. And I’d hope she feels the same.
As you should. No one should assault you in a relationship or outside of a relationship or marriage. Fuckin hell these people are evil
Easier said. Sadly you'd be out more than half your money and house and she'd have custody of the kid and you'd have to fight her in court to get custody while paying her child support and maybe alimony.
@@summer7603 I’d rather be broke than assaulted by someone I’m supposed to trust.
@@sirbradfordofhousejones If that's the case you'll get your wish.
endure.....................just kidding that *endure* take is such a bad one. A situation where people are laying hands on you and abusing you is such a dangerous one, even if its a woman she could up the ante and poison you or use weapons or if its just hands even though you outclass her its dangerous for you as well one day you might react as you are biologically wired to do, which is fight or flight and if you flatten her in reaction to her going all out assaulting you, its your butt in the fire and future ruined due to the legal and social backlash.
As a survivor of DV that recently escaped with my children, those people are insane. Tell me you're ignorant about abuse without telling me.
glad you've escaped, hope you're good now
I'm not sure if that one guy in the video was ignorant of abuse or a future abuser himself. I don't think he thinks beating a wife is that bad. I can totally see him doing it without recourse
So happy for you. I understand I’ve been there. So glad I got out.
that's great and i'm glad you got out of the situation but why tf do people always use abbreviations for shit like this. SA this and DV that, fucking takes me a few seconds to deduce what tf this shit means before progressing with reading the rest of the sentence. just write out the shit, jesus christ. pisses me off every time
(SA = sexual assault, DV = domestic violence btw, if you're like me)
glade you did.I am to and still fighting for our ( my children and I) freedom.Not easy when you don't have family and friends around.But God will set us free🙌🙌
I’m sorry but cheating and abuse are my two only reasons for divorce. I’ve told my wife that before I even thought about marrying her. It was brought up like our 2nd or 3rd date. So these guys give conservatives a bad name. This is why I love watching Aba and Preach. You guys rock.
The rebrand is gonna take you both to newer heights
I concur lol.
theyre going by the same name. What do you mean rebrand? you mean new picture?
@@PongoDaMan yea the new pfp
@@MunkeyyCANA the new pfp threw me off for a few seconds
Not a rebrand really. They just change their pfp from time to time for the bit
I am a conservative, but abuse mentally and physically is nothing to endure! If your partner does this get out asap! I have been married for 27 years…I have NOT had anything to endure with my husband, not even once. Every struggle, every problem we went thru and our marriage has grown stronger. My parents have been married 49 years …they were my role models. I knew what a real marriage looked like. Also if someone disrespects you in a million different ways divorce is still the best option!
So if you and your husband got into an argument and he hit you, you would divorce him immediately
@@Mt554. yes. I would. Why should there be physical abuse?
Honestly the red pill is such an odd view on conservative values . I can't imagine any conservative I know in my life talking about one sided open end relationships or enduring physical because God wills it .
My family is pretty traditionally conservative and we all supported my sister for leaving her husband when he put his hands on her. These round tables are so ridiculous
I’m a lad picking up traditional values and I agree. As a kid, I grew up within an abusive household with a relative that was verbally abusive and another that was the same but also physically abusive. Abuse is no joke. Fuck this “eNDuRiNG” bullshit. Red pill is just showing it’s retarded nature again.
Do I think people give up too easily in relationships? Absolutely. Do I think any type of abuse should be tolerated/endured? Absolutely not. It’s pretty simple
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Yeahup
It shouldnt be tolerated, but try to hash things out before jumping to divorce, think of the kids
@Mark taylor the children are already damaged. One of their parents is getting beat by the other. TF!!!!
People don’t give up on relationships too early. Relationships aren’t supposed to be hard.
I absolutely love to see y’all this platform to call out scum of the earth like this. Your recent content has been so much better because it feels like you’re putting your focus more on the people who desperately deserve to be called out. And the fact it’s coming from y’all will mean a lot to a lot of people.
Idk why they used Chase in the thumbnail, he didn’t rlly support this claim and is usually very level headed
As a child from a household with an abusive father, I can confirm the obvious that “enduring” this sort of treatment is the worse two adults in a abusive relationship can do. I remember seeing my father beat my mom and feeling helpless. Anyone that condones this type of ideology of enduring such abuse is 1: a idiot and doesn’t know what they are talking about or 2: an abuser themselves. I remember how I wish my mother would have left my father when I was a child, these ppl clearly Dont know what they speak of.
they lost all credibility after they made it known that they support abusers. These dudes belong in the trash.
# 2 is what I thought when I heard these guys talking.
#2 these fools are dumb!! Do not endure leave!!
I literally just thought this myself, only an actual smooth brain, or an abuser would say this.
My dad abused my mother for about the first 8 years of my life. After that, my mom had enough and went to the authorities. We were homeless for a while after that because she was an illegal immigrant and had trouble finding steady work and getting all the things required to rent a home. We were lucky to have family help us along the way but it was still rough. All that to say, our household dynamic FLOURISHED when my dad left the picture. Even while in a homeless shelter, our love for each other kept us going because we knew we were all we had.
These red pill guys know nothing about what it's like to live in an abusive or single parent home. As someone who lived in both, they are not even comparable.
Physical abuse is a line that can’t be crossed, especially in a relationship. Anyone who says otherwise is just wrong
Muslim men beat their wife's it's allowed in koran that's why I left it 😶
Exactly tf! And cheating!
@@shernetteanthony1359 some people have managed to fix relationships they have had cheating, but it's dangerous to even think about staying with someone that physically assaults you
@@deddrz2549 agree to disagree, people stay with cheaters because there is some type of codependency there.
@@shernetteanthony1359 or they went to therapy together to see why the partner made that choice and if remorseful, what the cheating partner can do to ensure it never happens again. It CAN happen, but often the cheater doesn’t feel remorse, and when they pretend they do, it shows up in other ways in the relationship. But I’d forgive a sincere person for cheating before I let an abuser ever lay eyes on me twice. Both are grounds for divorce, but abuse often leads to way worse outcomes than cheating. A very small percentage of people end up dead because of a cheating spouse compared to an abusive spouse.
There’s no reason to endure. Enduring it only tells the abuser they can get away with it and encourages them to push the boundaries of their abusive behavior. Speaking from experiences. I grew up in an abusive household where my dad started out as a lazy deadbeat, then he regressed into a verbal abuser towards my mom, then started becoming violent and making physical threats against her. Eventually it started coming my way and that’s when my mom finally had enough with it and she took me with her. She took me and left him not just to escape the abuse, but she told me she didn’t want me to be influenced by my dad’s abusive behavior and get the idea that treating a partner like that is normal or acceptable.
Luckily my dad had a redemption arc, but it took everything being taken away from him to realize how much of a POS he was being. Definitely taught me how to recognize patterns of abuse and gave me very strong resolve to be a compassionate, effective partner.
It eventually ends in a homicide.
Peaches & cream. I am done.
Me too 😐
The moment I saw it I laughed
How y’all commenting before the video is even posted😂
@@bowmen_Hub I am on the ground for real lmao.
@@ibrahimokasha1 Patreon
My parents never divorced despite the fact that my father was abusive in every way imaginable. Over the course of 20 years, I watched my mother become a shell of her former self and I lost all respect for her. The mental consequences on my brother and I for living in that environment has absolutely destroyed our lives. Had my mom left when my aunt told her to, when she was at her strongest to do so, none of us would've been put through that. My abusive dad will always be his abusive self and I know it's his fault but my mom didn't start out the way she is now and she made that choice to. I'm a Christian now and almost 2 1/2 years clean of opiates and all other drugs and I can tell you right now there is no religious basis for staying in an abusive relationship. God stresses men to love and cherish their wives as not to break their wedding vows. I have no idea where these men are getting this idea of no divorce even in the case of abuse because it's certainly not from the Bible! This is purely their egos talking.
The bible does talk about marriage and divorce it says that God hates divorce. The bible says cheating and a partner dying is grounds for a divorce. There are sections where it says that if one of the partners is a believer and the other is not a believer in the relationship one can show them the goodness of God and cause them to become a believer but if not then the relationship is dead. Me personally if I was getting beaten in the relationship I would get out fast as crap and I'm a grown ass man I don't want anyone guy or girl putting they hands on each other.
Exactly! Even the Bible will condem that behavior.
@DeemedLight the Bible condems unlawful divorce. Meaning just divorce to have another partner.
But it the husband commits adultery and fails his wife in protecting her she has a right to leave him. God hates adultery and abuse more than divorce.
Because a husband is to protect and love his wife as Jesus loved the church.
If a husband is abusing his wife he Is acting against God's commandment.
So instead of holding your abusive father accountable you blamed & lose respect for you mom the victim of the abuse? If you siding with your dad just say so. Some "Christian" you are🤦🏼
@@VidWatcher01 this a trend among bratty kids this day and age. They channel all their anger on their mothers because they're soft targets instead of confronting their fathers ( the wrong doers ). This person is a coward.
I have a cousin that "endures" toxic and abusive relationships just to be taken care of financially. Her daughter is an anxious, depressed little girl. People have stepped in, but it never lasts long since the mom moves to a new toxic situation and takes the daughter with her. It's hard to watch.
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yet very common
Unfortunately I have a cousin who was in a similar situation where she tolerated mental and emotional abuse because the guy took care of her financially. Luckily she broke up with him and got out of that mess kid free.
I agree
it is ALWAYS the woman's fault
I don't think anyone neatly falls into categories like that
Aba was spot on about raising a child in a home where your father openly beats her. I was raised in that environment from birth to 9 yrs old then they got back together when I was 11, we finally left when I was 15. You can't begin to understand the trauma that occurs in your own life, due to seeing that. I watched my mother and father fighting over trying to get a butcher knife to protect herself, and he was leaning the knife closer to her neck. At 9 years old, I genuinely thought one of my parents are going to die tonight. So I called the cops, my dad heard and somehow flung the knife away then started beating her so badly, she had her arms over her face screaming 'NO NO NO STOP YOURE KILLING Me!!!!' and screaming these horrific sounds. So I jumped on his back pulled his hair hard and tried to choke him. For some reason they got back together, and I had to listen to the screaming matches, and slaps and screaming from my mother. So I developed a type of selective hearing, which I do sometimes today. I can literally not hear or really see a person speaking to me a foot away, until I snap out of it.
As for the trauma, whenever I hear loud men, loud arguments and just arguments in general I have a full blown panic attack. Staying with him has made me scared of relationships in case the guy would possibly be at me in the future-even if he's the absolutely amazing man I want, I can't find it in me try try serious dating. All because of that trauma. I have PTSD, Social Anxiety, Full blown anxiety with panic attacks, avoid attachments to people just in case. So that white business suit guy can Fuck himself with a red hot iron poker, he's a piece of human garbage. Thank you Aba for saying that it's a horribly stupid idea those men have
Sorry so long, just wanted to explain that the person abused isn't the only victim.
Red pill is like “women are emotional, men are logical”
Also red pill “men giving in to emotions and beating women? Tough it out ladies”
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Straw man.
@@NeighborTomhow
@@NeighborTom naw. Just facts
That's not redpill. The Redhill is dead by allowing gridter and reformed manwhores spreading and vomiting bs like this. Look a Steven crowder he abused his wife for years and he put a Pikachu face when she had enough and she kicked him to the curb
As a man, I don't know why there can't be any balance in these discussions. Let's make it clear, if a man beats his wife then she has every right to divorce him and never look back. All people need to protect themselves at all times. To me there is no working it out once physical abuse comes into play.
But it's ok if the wife beats the husband?
@@oz_jones who said that???
@@oz_jones “All people need to protect themselves at all times” HE LITERALLY SAID IT IN HIS COMMENT, please learn to READ!
most men do not disagree with you, the issue most men have is she can divorce you for NO reason and she will be rewarded for it through alimony and child support.
@@oz_jones reading comprehension is important come on, he said all people needs to protect themselves at all times, read it again.
When kids in abusive relationship came up, I just had to stop. Im coming from an abusive household and I can totally tell that it sucks to forget beating, but hearing both ARGUE THE WHOLE TIME. Its sickening so much so that I am the whole time thinking of just leaving this cursed "family".
This is exactly the reason why i love these two. Don't matter if it's left or right, they give praise when earned and call them out when they spew bullshit. People who are us vs them mentality are the worst kinds of closed minded morons
Good point. They just stick to common sense. I appreciate that they are another voice for men because I was a little worried there for a minute. There's the w0ke virus AND this pill virus. And they're both doing too much!!!
They literally make videos ALLLL the time about internet beef and internet drama.... even causing drama and beef themsevles....
wtf are u talking about???
EVERYTHING about these two are "us VS them" mentality..... Wtf have you been watching the past 10 years???
Like L3L3
@@peterrichards7166 Aba is going to War: Tate, Justgriftingthings, Rollo, FnF, Cenk's Nephew, Whatever podcast.
Whats next Adam88 and the Polish Pimp?
I agree
I’m a child of divorce parents. My dad was cheating on my mom. I tend to see my dad hit my mom and my mom hits back. That did a mental toll on me and my sister. I have friends who also went through worse. To say abusive relationships aren’t effective on children is more is wild and a flat out lie. If you’re in a abusive relationship, I encourage you to seek help and get out of there immediately! You’re not at fault. You’re not the problem. Get out of there!
No idea why they're saying that. They tout statistics when it comes to single parent households, but make baseless claims when it comes to this. Children in abusive households developing mental illness or major trauma is pretty much common knowledge.
I was in a relashionship that became worst and worst until a big fight burst out and he started punching wall, my computer etc. I ended up in tears, my brother came to pick me up and he changed the lock on my door. After that my ex kept telling me that he didn't understand why I wouldn't try harder to forgive him and get back together, call me crazy and dramatic for changing the lock. I told him what would you if your daugther call you and tell you her husband treated her like that : same answer anf these guys in the video "kill the guy, get my daugther the F away from him" but you should stay with me and work harder to repear the relationship..... this is the moment where I'm like "what's the point of talking to you"
Yep narc logic. Glad you got out
Some people are just sick in the head. It's sad that we have to deal with these despicable types.
He was having an episode and you just leave him?
As a very religious person, I “endured” an abusive marriage for 10 years. Mostly because we had kids. We didn’t get divorced until he cheated. I wish we would have gotten divorced sooner because now I have the most loving, kind man in my life. I didn’t know that I could be treated well. I wish I would have had the courage to get divorced sooner so I could know what safety and love feels like. There’s too much divorce stigma in religion. But I also feel like people give up on relationships just because they get hard. There’s a difference between hard and abuse and most people don’t know the difference until they’ve experienced it.
As a Christian, I believe in marriage and as a man, if I have to “endure” my partner hitting me, playfully or not, I would file divorce faster than you can say “amen!”
And to be clear, I use “playfully” very loosely.
@@TurtleChad1 wait, which is the snowflake
Preach
@@TurtleChad1 “snowflake”. Yo! 2016 called. They want that term back.
The idea of "playfully" hitting your husband is just abuse. If you outline this and you're called weak or not a man by whoever you're dating, then that is an abuser. Don't take it as anything different. No female on Earth has the right to call what Steven Crowder did abuse but then try and justify literally hitting their husband/boyfriend- doesn't work like that.
@@IamjustBruh dont mind that guy, he’s a dollar store Justin Y., he goes in every comment section to gain likes and attention
As someone who grew up watching their father beat their mother no child should go through that let alone the victim. I'm appaled at these men. It traumatizes everyone involved and WILL lead to someone dying or severely hurt mentally and physically.
As a Catholic we do not claim that ideology. Yes adultery is a cause for divorce but so is abuse. If your life or child’s life is in danger then you can 100% divorce. They’re not real catholics.
When I was 18 I had a high school sweet heart. Once her mom seen how serious we were she allowed me to date her and welcomed me into their home/family under on condition…. I must convert to Catholicism. Blindly in hopes of acceptance I agreed.during this time of my life I really couldn’t think for myself and I always yearned to please others first. During this course somethings made me raise an eyebrow but I never spoken up to question things that was being interpreted from the Bible, but other ppl in my class did ( they were much older than me. I was the youngest). One women spoke on her abuse and the lady said that no matter what there is no divorce with Catholics, even for adultery. That amongst other things did not sit right with me. So on the last day before baptism I backed out. I went to my girlfriends house and told her mom I wasn’t comfortable with proceeding. The look it her eyes, the disappointment, she really was damn near a mom to me and from that point I know she saw me as a stranger. That tarnished my relationship with my girlfriend ( well ex I should say sorry). I was homeless and they brought me in and next thing you know I’m back on the streets. I truly hold no grudge to her or the family. She’ll always be the closest thing to a mom. It just sucks that religion came between us.
As a Catholic I think you made the right decision. You shouldn't be force to convert into a religion you're not comfortable with. And unlike other religions Catholics aren't supposed to force you into converting even when marrying. No disrespect to other religions tho. And some religious people are just so self-righteous.
To men AND women reading this, please leave an abusive relationship when you can. And for those being dismissive by simplifying it by saying "lol just don't choose an abusive person", it's not that simple. An abusive person most likely mask their true personality up until their partner finally becomes dependent on them and then they start their abuse. Nobody in their right mind would actively be seeking out an abusive relationship and most people will not go anywhere near a person that they know will outwardly harm them from the get go. Abuse just doesn't start right away
Thank you. My ex husband got diagnosed with "extreme psychopathic traits" this was after the fact after we had separated due to all the abuse. He was kind acting and very good at lying about everything from the start. Never put a finger on me while we were courting. It wasn't until after our marriage. Best believe I would have ran before tie-ing the knot. Lets not pretend mental illness and extreme manipulators aren't out there. Everybody is susceptible to being scammed. Just like the men who get "trapped" by women who claim they have infertility issues etc etc. Guess they should have chose better too. But for some people lying is just like breathing. And when you aren't a liar and manipulator yourself it's hard to fathom someone could be that way and you have a hard time seeing and believing it. I learned my lesson the hard way. Had to escape my ex with a broken arm and bloody face. I would have never willingly married someone that i knew would do that to me. He masked his issues extremely well.
Amen. Been there and you don’t have to endure it.
women gravitate to abusive/narcissistic pricks, can't change my mind
It's the truth though. I really hope these smug individuals don't get humbled by the all mighty, because abuse can happen to anyone. I honestly don't trust anyone with this mentality and suspect they are ignorant, arrogant and either in or are the abuser.
Enduring an abuser is like giving an alcoholic free beer.
The bible said to not tempt people with things they struggle with. Sometimes your the beer and the abuser is a raging alcoholic. Remove the beer. Remove yourself.
Abusers will slowly whittle away at their victims confidence and shift the blame all on their victim.
It's a terrible mental game. Because the abuser with act sorry. Act like they care. But when hard times come, their true colors show. Especially if they don't get their way. The will lie, coerce, manipulate to get their way. The bible doesn't instruct men or women to coerce or manipulate each other. Ever. Your suppose to be responsible for yourself only.
The definition of love to an abuser is "I only treat you nice unless you do what I say and if you don't, I don't care. I'm entitled to you. You are mine and I control you."
Whereas a person who knows true love, the definition is patience, endurance, self-sacrifice, slow to anger, not self-seeking, not boastful, understanding, caring.
Sometimes the understanding and caring thing to do is not enable terrible behaviors. For their sake. The abuser won't repent unless someone shows them the consequence of errors of their ways. Because Jesus was never and will never be for abuse. "It is better a millstone be tied around their neck and tossed into the deepest ocean" is what he quoted saying for people who harm young Christians. Young Christians are usually the ones trying to "endure" abuse because their cult Christian community don't understand the entirety of the lessons of the bible. Especially the lessons of compassion and to stand against evil.
Abuse is evil. I'll even chance to say it's Lucifer's way. Because Christ respected people's freewill. An abuser doesn't respect freewill. Take that temptation away and leave.
@@gravyos1It's because most men are either not confident or arrogant. Women mistake arrogance for confidence because they never seen a healthy confident man in their life. :(Everyone is to blame andbwe al gotta start working on ourselves to shift society to healthy and loving confidence.
I would really love to see these guys tell their sisters and their daughters: "Endure!"
I think the worst thing about them is that they probably already have.
@@chrisc4507 How is Pablo a simp? Because he doesn't want to see women suffering domestic abuse? But you'd still be fine if it was the other way around, huh?
@@chrisc4507 EVIL
They do
When it came to his own family the guy was ready to murder, but 'could see the argument for enduring ' for others
My mom used to put hands on my dad on a regular basis because he was an alcoholic.
They stayed together and "endured" for us kids. I wish they would have separated before I turned 18.
Wait your mom was whooping your dads ass ? Thats fucking crazy.
Situations like that explain why individuals who've been abused go back: they're usually abusers themselves.
@wongwong1517 most are women
@@NoFreedoms-f1d not true. Anyone can be abused if they can't stand up for themselves or cut off from family /friends
@@wongwong1517 ?
Guys who want a "Trad wife" are so creepy to me, it only ever sounds like they want a sex doll that cooks and cleans for them, and never challenges them. Not only is that super weird and creepy but also BORING! I want my partner to challenge me, and help make me a better person overall.
Telling an abuse victim they have to “just endure” is like telling a recovering addict that they have to “just finish the bag”
He also called them "pussies." Tradcaths are as tard as feminists, all extremists are insane.
Perfect comparison.
There's *NO* "ifs", "ands" or "buts" about it. If it's abuse, it's abuse and to say "endure it" is what any intolerable person would say. You shouldn't be forced to stay in something that will hurt you, mentally and/or physically. Don't be the punching bag.
Tolerable=endure
Intolerable= do not endure.
If it were upto me I’d force their ass into therapy (if we have kids together. I truly believe in modeling healthy relationships with both parents BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY)
If there’s no kids and you really wanna try
Then give them a chance to go to counseling.
If not then get the fuck outta there or if they keep repeating.
I’d honestly do everything I can to make it work until the kids are 18.
Get family involved, get friends involved, get everyone involved to get them treatment.
It’s 2023,
Everyone knows what the fuck marriage is about now.
Everyone knows what having kids is about now.
There’s literally no more excuses for anyone.
Period! I couldn't agree w ya more!
You do have to endure it, this is why a nuclear family was stronger before, you think your grandma at one point might have not want to leave? but she didnt, she understood her assignment , to raise a family NO MATTER WHAT. now days women are just quitter. This is why I want men to not marry, IT IS A LIABILITY FOR US, THere is absolutely NO BENEFIT for men to marry.
🤓 Actually, when Destiny insults Melina, you could say it's verbal / emotional abuse. However they don't personally see it as serious abuse, they literally enjoy fighting and arguing. Melina ENDURES Destiny's antics and vice versa. So as I just demonstrated with an example that even a baby can understand, it's not always so cut and dry, there's a million things that feminists would consider abuse but that isn't actually abuse, and likewise there are things that you or even I might see as mental abuse but that a weird couple like Destiny and Melina would not. Almost like people have different levels of tolerance and different things they are looking for in a relationship. Almost like there are ifs and buts. 🤔
We can imagine a comedian couple would likely engage in very crude jokes on a daily basis. They would be making fun of each other's appearances but they wouldn't personally feel abused. However the exact same joke directed at a different girl would become abuse. So again we can see that the severity of abuse or whether there even is abuse or not actually depends on context and history. It's not black and white and it's extremely silly to pretend it is.
Another example is Amber Heard vs Johnny Depp. Amber felt abused and convinced many people that she was abused, but the trial and evidence showed that Johnny Depp was the real victim. This is an example that illustrates that feeling abused doesn't mean you are abused. So no, abuse isn't always abuse. Abuse can be a term used by the abuser to gaslight the victim.
Finally because everything can be considered a type of abuse it seems pretty obvious that most couples indeed endure certain behaviors, at least to some reasonable degree and don't break up over small issues. Instead they try to resolve those issues with compromise. When they're unable to find a solution is when the relationship becomes toxic and when they need to separate. However the point here is that they can and should try to fix issues if it can be fixed, and most problems can usually be fixed with proper communication (again reminder that we are not talking about physical abuse at any point). This idea that people should immediately divorce at the first sign of an issue is pretty laughable. Maybe talk about it first, don't keep things that bother you hidden. If your partner actually loves you he or she will try to be better. If you can't fix the relationship, then you should leave.
just for the record in the bible divorce is allowed if someone steps out on the marriage or if they are not a true follower of Christ. So if you are being abused in anyway please leave. God will still love you.
This is why I tell women to have something going on for themselves. Go to college. I have a bachelor degree in law and I am going for my master this coming September. My mom endured abuse, because she couldn’t go nowhere. She was not educated and couldn’t move on. Due to the abuse I have major health issues: panic disorder, depression and PTSD.
I agree, I'd never let my daughter be some chick who's fully dependent on her man. She should be able to have her own skills and or knowledge to take care of herself
This is why I don't understand the mentality these red pill dudes have where they think their wives/girlfriends should be 100% dependent on them. That's not healthy and a recipe for disaster. That's the entire point of feminism, putting the control in the woman's hands so abuse becomes less common. That's why the divorce rate was SO high in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. My grandmother was punched in the face by her alcoholic husband and had to endure over 15-20 years of abuse before she finally divorced his ass sometime in the 80s, and her kids left even before that.
Careful guys, because those Redpillers would call you problematic, because "college women destroy marriage"...
Funny, when looking through the reports of these data, the writers, often marriage lawyers in these cases, would tell nuanced reasons that Redpillers refused to acknowledge, because these points often made them look bad.
Seriously, Redpillers knew advocating for women to be financially independent and capable would diminish their supposed worth, so they couldn't allow it. They can't have other human beings as independent... Human beings...
Most college women have tons of debt with no man and no children. Well, a lot might dream to cripple their children by being single mother.
@@NoFreedoms-f1dit’s simple then, don’t beat your wife.
Yes you can divorce. The bible literally says if you getting physical abused you can leave.
No the bible says adultry is the only accepted reason for divorce. However the bible also says to love your wife like Christ loves the church. So beating your wife is against God. Anybody defending beating is an idiot.
The bible also commands ppl to physically abuse their wives.. you can find both sides of any argument in the bible lmfao
Also infidelity. Those are the only two things that you can divorce over. The problem is now that people lie about both now.
Which Bible tho🤔? Like I remember King Henry changed the whole Bible so he can divorce his Wife.
Which book in the Bible, chapter and verse?
Please
I saw this on Twitter and was so mad. I grew up in a abusive home. My dad was very violent. I think it did have consequences for my mom’s psyche. She endured because she wasn’t educated and couldn’t just move on. Also she is religious. Divorce was an embarrassment. He cheated on her multiple times and beat her. They are still married but he is living with his side piece, but still cheating.
Comparing “hard times” with being violent/abusive is beyond sick.
@@TurtleChad1 lame ass
@@TurtleChad1 troglodyte
Truly spoken from a place of privilege
@@TurtleChad1 You really like that word. What's it mean though?
I'm sorry to hear that.Please keep on telling your truth.
when Preach said ''people marry for the wrong reasons", he opened up a whole new brilliant way to actually have this conversation. Long conversation that needs to be spoken about that just emphasises the importance of "prevention is better than cure".
wise bro
Some abusers can keep a good facade until the first child is born.
There’s something severely wrong with those guys to sit there and preach something like that. I actually am so shocked. Physical abuse is not okay and it’s 100% a good enough reason to leave somebody. Even more so if there’s kids involved, cause he/she could start abusing the kids. Even if they don’t, the kids could grow up to treat their loved ones the same way and suffer from severe ptsd.
It's really not strange when you see the violent way they speak about women. It starts with verbal violence. The online violent talk translates to their lives... "training your wife", etc.
As parents who “endured,” each other ;involved therapy for me. So please do not endure domestic violence either male or female. Get out.
Bruh you’re assuming your ass wouldn’t have been plundered with a revolving door of mommy’s boyfriends. You could have been off WAY worse.
What to endure:
A beating
What not to endure:
Your wife saying 'Hold on. Maybe this doesn't seem like a good idea'
These guys are clowns. Dude straight up said he would go over to his house and "teach him a lesson." Well what if he whoops your ass? Bring a gun? What if he kills you in self defense? Should she still endure, and stay married to the man who killed her jackass father? Yeah, these clowns don't have an answer for nuances in their view. They just live in a fantasy world not based in reality.
Abuse isn't a hard time. It only gets worse, never better. Hard times generally improve, not get worse.
My sister got beaten to death by her partner when all of her family kept telling her to leave. He would beat her, buy flowers and say sorry, and beat her after he got comfortable again. Vicious cycle. Those men have no clue what they're talking about..
I’m sorry to hear that, truly, that’s horrible 😢
I'm sorry for your loss. 😢
You dont “endure” abuse. You leave. End of story.
Secondly no one just “ends up” in an abusive relationship.
You ignore (or don’t know) the Red Flags of abuse. If you can recognize what those Flags are then you can end the relationship before marriage and/or kids and save yourself years of trauma.
define "abuse" please....
You son is married 10 years to a women.... 3 children (3yrs, 6yrs, and 8yrs,)... They get into an argument, and ONE TIME in the 10 years his wife SLAPS the fuck out of him two times and his face gets cut by her nails.....
Your telling me, your going to tell your son to LEAVE NOW, break up his FAMILY, all because of ONE over reaction from his wife???
GTFOH with that bullshit... stop the cap.
True in a lot of cases of abuse, but not all of them. Many abusers are good liars and manipulators and they can flip a switch and show their true colors after you're already married.
Redpill: high value people have self respect and command respect from others
Also redpill: endure and accept abuse
???????
@@lockiet7227 abuse is a vague term
You can definitely just end up in an abusive relationship. You never know what might happen after being together and life happens. Soldiers with PTSD, people who start developing addictions, etc.
My uncle abused his wife. Once my grandparents and uncles/mom found out they went to get the wife and kids and he hasn't been allowed to see any of them in private since and has basically been given the boot from the family. Thats the only acceptable response to domestic abuse, you're out.
I know someone whos wife abused the kids and he went through hell for years in the legal system instead of her just being put into jail on day one. Shes STILL not in jail.
@@jebes909090 that's insane. I don't come from a western countries. I'm African in my countries family issues and disputes are almost never dealt with by law enforcement which often means that if you have a good family they will defend you to hell and back. That's how my grandparents were able to just take the kids and my aunt out. Some women are unfairly given the children tho. That's how the patriarchy fucks us all over. Ideally the mother is suppose to be the safest person for the child but if she's not it takes a lot more to get that child away.
@@ollynolly4592 ya man, the western world had lost its mind
@Olly Nolly truth,contrary to popular belief african parents dont sit for that..they will take you back with the quickness. But those who love money will see you get fucked over.
The fact a grown man is advocating for domestic violence by telling someone to endure is crazy
No one should endure abuse no matter what religion you are from. I’m catholic and watching the whatever podcast got my eyes wide open. I couldn’t believe I just hear nonsense advice like that.Thanks Aba & Preach for calling this behavior out. Absolutely unacceptable behavior.
👋 I'm not sure what you mean when you say your eyes are now open, but please don't think these men represent the Catholic church. I don't know about the 2 men to the right, but the one on the left is definitely not Catholic. He's either non-denominational or Protestant. Either way, they aren't Catholic representatives. I think Preach may have gotten that idea because Catholicism was mentioned once in that clip. The church does encourage people to get away from abuse, which includes legal divorce. Now, in the eyes of the church, you're still married unless you seek an annulment. But the church allows you to divorce in the event of abuse so you can stay safe.
You cleary didnt watch the podcast, they said you should separate not divorce
@@Mt554. Yet when she asked about cheating they said that’s acceptable of getting a divorce whereas abuse isn’t
@@tovlonia1594 its based on their christian beliefs, the bibles only ground for divorce is cheating
@@Mt554. and someone being a non believer
Watched my mom “endure” beatings from her boyfriend over multiple years when I was a kid. Same guy also abused two of my siblings at the time and has only recently pleaded guilty to use of deadly force against my baby brother who is no longer alive. Personally, I resent my mother for keeping that guy around because I got no clue why she allowed any of that to happen.
You are strong. It's sad to say but we have to be the change we want to see.
Two reasons for it. Self esteem because your mother felt the boyfriend was the best she could get/ what she deserved because he "loved" her. And people would rather be in an abusive relationship than be alone, because they want the abuser to be responsible for them because "Real life" is hard work for single mothers and they think a partner reduces their load. Hence why so many single moms drop their knickers for first guy who pretends they like children, not catching on that it's a ruse just to get sex/ free place to live/ find people to exploit and abuse
@@philwill0123 exactly, these victims rather take a beating (and plenty of them allow their kids to be abused or deadly force) just because they don't want to be alone... selfish weakness is what I call that!
Well she is doing what that guy say to endure.
watching how they shame women on that podcast u should get it now
Aba nailed it towards the end with "they care more about their feelings then women's physical safety." That also explains why the panel kept saying abuse is so rare. In their world view men are always right or the victims, abuse is often seen as men being the perpetraters, so it has to be discounted.
I'll never understand the idea of "just endure it" in any relationship that has physical or mental abuse. It makes zero sense, people like that don't change.
As someone who grew up in a household where my father became a physical abusive alcoholic I'm happy and lucky that my mother decided to sacrifice a lot to raise me and my siblings by herself instead of eventually possibly getting murdered.
Or you and your siblings getting murdered. Or winding up in the system after he murdered your mom.
Amen
You dodge a bullet. I came the same type of household, but mom didn't left. What happens is the family would designate one child to be the blacksheep/whipping boy to take all the abuse. Just so they can function as a normal family.
Or they could have helped stop him from drinking.....
??? you said he BECAME this way when he was drinking....
sounds like an easy fix, that DOESNT require wracking your own home.....just saying
@@mattlol163 can tell you came from an easy life kid. Ever heard of a narcissist.
I was a nurse and I saw a women broken ribs disfigured face horrible and all that was done by her husband.. she was in a critical state life-death kinda situation we weren't near a big city so they had to rush her to a hospital by helicopter... from what I was told she tried to leave many times but could'nt and I still think of her I hope she's okay and left this time..
Men☕️
@@yasmeen9592 sadly.. even tho not alot commit those atrocities most would rather mind their business then help raise awerness we need more men like aba & preach for real 😩
@Eze Barrah endure what? It's because they endured that they were on the brink of death.
@@ezebarrah6913 endured till the end to her grave 😳😳
@Eze Barrah trolling bitch living in moms basement🙄🖕🏾
You clearly see the age of their life experiences in the way they tell abuse victims to “just endure”. It’s giving the same energy as “oh, you’re depressed? Go outside! Smile more!”
There low key Fresh and Fit and to an extent Andrew Tate with these talking points.
Lmao you do know therapist recommend people with depression go outside and walk
And don't say well that not the only solution, literally no one had claimed that
@berrymckockiner5883
I don’t think the issue was the advice itself. In this context, it doesn’t come across as genuine advice. It’s rude asf and it assumes that people with depression aren’t already working hard to maintain a better health.
Thats what my dad used to tell me. It's all in my head. I'm doing it to myself. Mind over matter. As I lay there shaking uncontrollably on the floor from a seizure xD
Your username is my mood rn😂
When I was 9 my mom used to beat my dad and constantly abuse me and my sister and we ALL wanted her gone yet my dad kept bringing back from jail to the house and I think to this day the 1st day she tried to come home she should have been thrown out. My dad should have divorced her a long time ago. I hate people who advocate for staying in abusive relationships. I pray these people stop thinking that way and pushing that for the children who went through what me and my sister went through.
Back in the day, I used to hear, "you too young to be tired" and now hearing "everybody gives up too easily/quickly" gave me that same feeling. It has/is always bad to dismiss stuff like that because it has reflected so drastically in the work environment where you hear the same thing but in a more pc way to overwork everyone and put up with it with the illusion of gettin further in life
Love this observation
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What’s wild is these guys talk about how they are Christian’s through out that episode. I am a Christian too, and any time I’ve known anyone who is in an abusive relationship, I’ve encouraged them to leave.
Im pretty sure Chase from the podcast said the woman to leave if the abuse Is serious
@@dennisongaye2985 if there is any abuse you should prob leave, its a relationship both of the people in it should not be verbally or physically abusive, grown ass people should known how to resolve things without having a fist fight, not even teenage boys nowadays get in as many fights as some couples
@@dennisongaye2985 Direct quote or you're a liar.
And no, I will NOT "watch the video". No advertising here.
@Gabriel Balem Verbal fights are inevitable. Grow up.
@@Ticketman99 I'm not talking about MLD , I'm talking about Chase , the christian, he was pretty much against abuse, he said that if it was his daughter he'll go talk to the husband, and if he's toxic it's advisable for divorce to take place ..
Btw I'm also a christian, and abuse isnt allowed in marriage because the bible says husbands should love their wives, if they abuse their wives they've basically sinned against God too
If there is abuse, there is no respect and absolutely no love. Husband or wife, boyfriend/girlfriend, etc… you leave.
No love, no respect, no companionship, no trust
With abuse, physical or psychological, there is only fear and resentment. That's not a marriage, that's hell
My grandfather used to beat my grandmother bad enough to land her in the hospital, along with beating my mom and her siblings. That, and would gamble the money away from work and leave her, my mom, and my aunts and uncles to starve and be homeless. He also cheated on my grandmother like crazy too. The ONLY reason she stayed with him was because women couldn’t own bank accounts at the time and divorce was looked down upon back then.
While he did get himself together when he was old enough, the damage had been done. She didn’t love him and didn’t even shed a tear at his funeral. She traveled, did new things, tried new stuff, etc. And she made it clear that loved being single more than married.
As a child from an abusive home, I would have much preferred to be in a single parent household than to endure the trauma I was forced to endure. My violent childhood affects my life every single day! Complex-PTSD and a plethora of autoimmune diseases causes from constantly being in flight or fight mode... Since childhood. NEVER STAY WITH AN ABUSER!!!!!! NEVER!
as a child from a single mother home i would have much preferred to be in a two parent household than to endure the trauma i was forced to endure. my violent childhood affects my life every single day with C-PTSD social issues and not being taught how to live or do nearly anything an adult should know....since childhood NEVER JUST BELIEVE YOU'RE MOTHER!!! EVER! ... now see how i had the same experience but likely worse cause my mom lied and was a single mother? 2 opposites of the same coin
@@ganjatheninjathe topic here is abusive relationships not your mom lying, that’s not relevant to this video or comment.
@@ganjatheninjaso you're saying being in a two-parent household with the same mother that you grew up with would have been better? You don't know that for certain. You think it would be better, which is just an opinion.
I would much rather wish to not have been born period!. My mother was a single mom, and a hairdresser. At work she was praised, at home she was a monster. Who was extremely violent , bipolar, and abusive. And my father was a pimp and a drug dealer. Went to prison, and came out ten times more violent. Two dysfunctional people who had no fucking business having sex in the first place. 🤡😑😞
@@yoskiullyterd9910 I don't think he meant (with the same mother) love
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To "endure" abuse is something only a mentally ill person can say in seriousness.
But it does work sometimes. People endure with drunks and junkies and abusers and sometimes it works out
Nah I can effortlessly prove you're wrong:
If your gf calls you a dumbass do you divorce her or do you endure? 🤔 If you stay with her why? That's like, verbal abuse. 🤔🤔 If you think all abuse is equal and never acceptable then you think all couples should break up the second someone says something mean. 🤣 Anyone with a brain can see that this is the mentally ill position.
@@tiffanywyatt5137 And sometimes they murder their spouse.
If that was your daughter or son would you like that option?
Funny this is they tell men not to take this non sense. They wouldn't deal with it
@@madelaine2222 stop.assuming. I'm just saying sometimes it does work out. Sometimes it does not. you got to figure out for yourself what your willing to deal with. I would advise not dealing with drunk or junkies or angry people but some people will deal with them and sometimes it works out and sometimes it does not. Your life is your own
I feel like people that think like this are most likely abusers themselves. Like who in their right mind thinks cheating is worse than physical abuse?
My mom packed me and my brother up and we all took a plane from New York to Florida because my dad was so abusive.
Hearing your mom scream for help when you can’t do anything is a million times worse than growing up without a dad.
It was a better situation for all of us. I didn’t miss him at all. Ya’ know why? Because when you grow up with your dad abusing your mom, you don’t talk, you don’t have fun, it’s just quiet and uncomfortable around them unless they’re yelling at you or telling you what to do. You fear them. It was a relief.
“It’s so rare” when talking about abusive relationships, ummm no it’s not…like at all. 1 in 5 murder victims are killed by their romantic partner. These are the type of dudes to say they argue with facts not feelings but blatantly ignore facts. You guys nailed it, it’s scary there’s people out there that think differently.
Nah theh still be tight for the vast majority of people in relationship they aren’t beating the shit out they partnered it happens but when compared to overall population it’s not common
@@Truejota you don’t think 1 in 5 is common?
@@canonhayes9330 if 1/5 people are being abused that would mean 4 times as many aren’t so does it happen to often yes but is it something that’s to be expected to happen when you enter a relation ship No
@@canonhayes9330 That's 1 in 5 MURDERS. Out of 10 marriages, in how many do you think one partner kills the other? I promise you it's not 25%.
@@Truejota you realise women are more likely to be the perpetrators of both mental and physical abuse?
Both in domestic relationships and mother child relationships....
My uncle was married to an abusive harpy of a woman and thankfully divorced her despite being a devout Christian. I was in an abusive and it only got worse and worse. I ended up with a gun pointed at me and I’m glad it clicked in my head that there was only a few escalated steps left between me and death. Peace and love to those who left
I'd grown up in both situations, abusive household and then single parent. I used to watch my mother cowering as my father screamed at her, putting holes in the walls next to her head. My mother crying into my birthday cake as she decorated it, tasting the strange salty parts at my birthday at Peter Piper Pizza and knowing exactly what it was. I remember a step dad beating my brother bloody and him coming to lay in bed with me and my sister, and we were too young to do anything as this two year old child was bleeding between us as we held him. All of us under 10 years old.
I also remember my mother struggling to do it all alone. The help and support from my maternal grandparents and half living with them as my mother worked at times. It takes a village, and I found that my mother was a broken woman that survived things, allowed bad things into her life that hurt her children, and then sacrificed everything to make sure that didn't happen again. I'd gained a fair amount of trauma and some issues, as well as respect for my mother to some degree. She wasn't prepared for a lot of things, and often times dealt with things the wrong way. I am very happy that I was able to see the mistakes, knowing what I didn't want to endure and what wasn't healthy.
In the same hand, I also have issues because I didn't have a dad like other people. More jealousy than anything else, and resentment. I'm happy that I'm autistic, so logic and reason, working things out so they make sense has been a strong point for me. There's not as much emotion in my life decisions, which has brought me to make smarter choices. But damn, growing up seeing your mother trembling and terrified of your father. And then a stepmother (the only reason we saw our dad after he remarried) battered and bloody as he did those things with us in the home? That fucks people up. That effects and traumatizes in ways that people who hadn't lived through that wouldn't be able to fully comprehend. As someone who was a party to both single parent and abusive parent to child and abusive to spouse, I can say that the single parent where the one parent still wasn't capable of offering all that a child needs was infinitely better.
Sounds like your mom made bad decisions, multiple times
@@kcb8130congrats you've added nothing to the conversation, op literally mentions it in their post, and here you are parroting it
@@kcb8130 Yup, pretty much.
@@kcb8130 sounds like you're ignorant, most people don't ignore red flags and intentionally get into relationships with bad people they just fail to recognise those red flags early on because abusers are good at lying and manipulating their victims. Stop victim blaming and repeating ridiculous red pill talk points.
@@monkekun3033 Apologies, I thought you were talking to me! I'm quite the idiot. That was 100% my bad.
I agree with you both NOBODY should stay in no relationship with any form of abuse. It’s far worse to stay for the innocent children involved this discussion triggered me 😞💔
My mother is used be the assistant district attorney and the cases she’s prosecuted where family abuse cases. Luckily my family didn’t have it but doing those cases took a toll on my moms mental health to the point she stepped down and now prosecutes minor cases. She’s told me a few and hearing that jack-off say “endure it” almost made me yell out in rage, honestly if it comes out he abuses his partner I’m not going to be that surprised
crazy how meotional you are
when he simply did NOT say to endure BEING BEATEN
he was talking about DIVORCE in general, ALL AROUND....
Do you leave someone JUST because they hit you ONCE???
What if the woman slaps the man??
You breaking up the family and leaving your wife JUST for one slap in 20 years???
GTFOH over your mother complaining about her job to her child. You are the SAME type of person who would WATCH while a women is beaten on the subway or on the street
just STFU, and so being so emotional and think LOGICALLY. That was a CONVERSATION, not a 5 second clip. Go watch the WHOLE video. Stop being ignorant.
*And I cant wait till the day you go to tell your children "im leaving your mother because she slapped me one time".... HAVE FUN with that.*
ROFL!!! oh wait.... let me guess? its COMPLETELY DIFFERENT if the women is the violent one, uh?
Nothing is less surpassing than someone who can excuse domestic violence or abuse, being an abuser themselves.
I did yell out in rage honestly. The nonsense he was spewing was some the stupidest, most sick in the head and disgusting horseshit I've heard in a while.
@@hmmmbrilee it's almost unreal. Like, he has to be saying this shit only for attention. No way in hot Hell does he actually believe himself.
As someone that grew up in a household with abusive parents. It really does screw up how relationship dynamics works when you get older. It was hard for me to understand what love is. It was hard for me to be trustung about anything. I never hit a woman in my life because i knew it was bad. But everything else was taight to me by watching. They are still together. My mom has mental issues now. My dad still snaps into a rage aboit nothing. When me and my wife got married and she got pregnant we decided the best course of action would be to just disappear from my parents because we did not want q child growing up around that at all. Best decision i ever made.
Hey, good for you making that call.
Some people will say 'blood is thicker than water' but as someone else from an abusive family, fuck that notion.
It's not right for kids to experience that kind of suffering, even just passively with them being around.
I hope you're happy and have a very fulfilling life.
@@rasmachris94 that's a actually a huge misconception. The quote really goes like this 'The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb.' It really means that chosen bonds are stronger than blood ties.
@GrAc3 - makes sense, I used it in that context because its what's spouted even though its incredibly harmful. Family can be as toxic and dangerous to you as strangers. The idea that you owe them anything just because you're related by blood is absurd. You owe no one anything in this life.
Yo the level of trolling Aba and preach do is top tier 😂
who are aba and preac? this is peaches and creams page?
@@thedudeofsomethingorsometh273 you right my G. The trolling that peaches and cream do is top tier!! 😂
you mean peaches and cream 🤣
That’s why I can’t take these red pill guys seriously. No logic, no common sense and half truths. Thank You Aba and Preach
In staying in a toxic/abusive relationship, your inadvertently teaching your children to settle and live with unhappiness