Van Compass 2020 Ford Transit AWD lift kit - Part 2

Overview of the Van Compass 2" AWD Ford Transit lift kit - available June 2020

[@t22a80]

Looks like this video needs an update as you no longer recommend using the Bilstein for the AWD vans

[@larrymoore4223]

Great video and great job explaining your process for lifting the AWD Transit as well as improving the ride quality. I have just ordered a Winnebago EKKO and the first thing I plan to do is bring it to you so you can do exactly what you have described in this video. Looking forward to having you work on our EKKO.

[@isaacgarcia3746]

When I get my van this is where I'm going

[@videopipeline6419]

Jan. 17, 2020: "2020 Ford Transit AWD front suspension overview" (ua-cam.com/video/AFWNUXhv3aw/v-deo.html) @0:30 "You know, there's a lot of cheaper lifts on the market that'll put a strut spacer on top of the coil and lift the vehicle that way so there's like a two inch or three inch spacer on top of the coil, and it cranks this control arm down..." And he then goes on to show how that puts the outer CV joint in a bind at full droop. Fast forward to Apr 22, 2020: They come up with a kit that does pretty much the same thing (though with a reduced lift so as to just barely stay out of binding), accomplished partly with a longer spring, and partly with a strut spacer with an offset to correct the camber change (I'm wondering if any of those 'cheaper spacer kits' he referred to also adjust the camber?) They swap to a longer spring but strut travel is not increased, so strut bottoming is routine. Also end up with both inboard & outboard CV axle joints running at an angle all the time in normal driving, mile after mile. No thanks. I'll pass.

[@jpogigtxcr1778]

Basically what I thought. They didn’t do shite with the suspension angles. Practically same as just placing a 2” spacer.

[@robparkhill7015]

This is exciting, my 2020 will be arriving soonish, I’ll be placing an order as soon as possible

[@TheOMEGANOX]

I've waited to order one until I saw how this setup was going to work out, to be honest that first video was daunting as hell, the solution you guys came up with is really better than I had hoped, so the main questions, how much rubber am I going to be able to stuff into those wheel wells if I'm not afraid of a little trimming? And what will the entire package run with everything shown in this video?

[@korbynjamison5596]

Instablaster

[@miroslavjecminek3225]

I have installed 2" VC lift on my ford transit low roof 150 awd. Still stock shocks but I have serious issues with them topping out on any small pot hole, anyone else experience this? I am hopeless. I called VanCompass and they said yes it can occasionally happen but on my van it happens almost on every bump.

[@montgomeryliteflyers]

Nice solution, Im waiting on Ford to start back up so my order comes in. Will I need a diffrent set of leafs in the rear for my camper van if it is a Transit 350 148" extended AWD-DRW?
Will you be making anything greater then a 1-3/4 -2" lift for the Transit AWD.

[@JoshalynnLove]

hey, how's the van looking 2 years later? 👀🙂

[@GnarlesBronson]

What tire size can you run with this kit?

[@Lou-xd9ef]

265 with trimmings

[@nutmagnet22]

Does a pole saw come with the upgrade?

[@David-rx2to]

Two questions: Will Ford's AWD system work with an ARB rear air locker, and how big of a tire can you install with the mods in this video?

[@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080]

Why would you want that? Ford offers an optional rear e-locker.

[@David-rx2to]

@@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 correct me if I'm wrong, but a full-time all-wheel drive system is inferior to a four wheel drive system with a rear locker. Ideally for extreme off-road, which you wouldn't be doing in a Transit van anyway, it would have both front and rear lockers like the ram power wagon does. It's my understanding that Ford offers a rear locking differential with the two wheel drive Transit, but the all-wheel drive version does not offer locking differentials.

[@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080]

@@David-rx2to it seems the configurators are not working properly. Canada is still only offering 2020's, and the US sight is not currently offering many configurations.
They offer a Limited Slip Differential now which in Ford Speak is usually the Torsen® differential. It is better then a locker in many ways. I believe you can also add a Front Axle Torsen® Differential from the Raptor/Ford Performance Parts Catalogue. I believe the front axle carrier in the Transit is the same as the F-150. This would essentially give you Quattro rally like AWD. Better then 4WD in all circumstances except rock crawling. The 10 speed can give you around a 20:1 crawl ratio in 1st gear without a low speed transfer case so with the torque from the 3.5L Ecoboost it's more then most customers would ever fully use. Certainly much better on Gravel, mud, snow, or ice. Especially at highway speeds!

[@808Mark]

you think this awd will work on soft sand with the tires aired down to 15 psi?

[@ericmucha8950]

What are you guys doing about addressing the extreme angles of the CV axles? This lift kit seems to be the same as other cheap lifts you keep talking about.

[@codysteele]

I agree. In part 1, he said that the CV would bind unless the diff were lowered and that lowering the diff would require addressing the front driveshaft alignment issues. This kit doesn't seem to lower the diff so does the CV bind? Also in this video he praises the Bilstein B6 strut for providing more life and a better ride, but on their website, they these struts are, "not recommended for Ford Transit AWD vans because of potential issues with the CV joints." Great part 1 video, but how does part 2 address all of those issues?!

[@videopipeline6419]

@ Eric Mucha - That's right. In the "2020 Ford Transit AWD front suspension overview" he showed that he not could drop the knuckle very far until the CV joint *began* showing symptoms of binding up. And he discussed how difficult it seemed to be move the front axle center section down any at all. And they didn't solve either problem, despite using longer springs.

[@videopipeline6419]

@@codysteele EXACTLY!

[@WarNoodle85]

hello, what is the hitch height from the ground after the van has been lifted? Im trying to get an idea for a future purchase and need hitch height for a trailer build. Thank you!

[@randallmiller2017]

"if you want more information go to our website", I did that and had a question, so I sent a message. It's been about a month and still no reply. Le sigh.........

[@jbartziokas]

Very excited for this. Can't wait to order mine.

[@Max-dy2np]

You cant afford the hell

[@jbartziokas]

Just A Car Guy Thing what are you talking about???

[@commercialelectrician133]

Great video

[@aaron6587]

How about driveline phasing and vibration issues? Any penalty there?

[@ericmucha8950]

They are doing nothing to address the extreme angles on the CV axles, premature wear and vibration might happen.

[@Vanisl4runner1]

I remember talking to you guys before about your lift verses the Foes lift. I didn’t buy Foes lift because of what you said, but I also didn’t buy your lift because of the cost and installation complexity. But you seem to have come up with something pretty sweet! If I could buy that for my rear wheel drive van, I would. It’s more what I want.

[@Vanisl4runner1]

Took me a second, but I realized why this is even better then the Foes kit, and the subframe drop then I thought before. Whether you have a factory strut, or a bilstein strut, the maximum length of the shocks is the same. But the 3/4” spacer only effects the total droop which is perfect, so it doesn’t over extend the bushing or ball joints. However, with the 1” taller spring, and the 5/8” difference in the bilsteins spring perch, you get your two inches when the vehicle is on the tires. This is so cool! Please sell these for the RWD vans!!!

[@VanCompass]

@@Vanisl4runner1 This kit will work for the 2wd vans as well :-) We will make a kit for the 2015-2017 model and 2018+

[@stephenhale9180]

Van Compass LLC any idea how soon this will be ready for the 2020 AWD

[@richardburguillos3118]

This is exiting. Will this work on the Winnebago Ekko? How do these kits affect factory warranties on the chassis?

[@Lou-xd9ef]

I'm putting one on my Ekko and 265 and a bunch of plastic trimming and BFG AT.

[@Lou-xd9ef]

make sure you get the HD springs for the EKKO. Red springs ;)

[@karlschmidt7258]

That cv joint is not “happy,” its just not binding…

[@AJourneyOfYourSoul]

Since the van now sits lower in the stroke, any issues with slamming the strut fully extended during rebound?

[@AJourneyOfYourSoul]

I just read a message on a forum with a person who has this lift with the red springs and stock struts. He says it slams on rebound all the time. Not enough rebound damping and with AWD, there isn't any other strut. The Bilstein struts aren't recommend by VC for the AWD models due to clearance issues.

[@miroslavjecminek3225]

@@AJourneyOfYourSoul I have installed 2" VC lift on my ford transit low roof 150 awd. Still stock shocks but I have serious issues with them topping out on any small pot hole. I am hopeless. I called VanCompass and they said yes it can occasionally happen but on my van it happens almost on every bump.

[@TylerBigHead]

What kinda mpgs do you get with this puppy

[@PaulNelsonphotography]

Will this work on a dually all wheel drive?

[@Lou-xd9ef]

yes it does work on dually

[@lesterma1608]

Which shock on the front of the transit do you recommend if not Bilstein?

[@VanCompass]

The factory struts are the only option that do not over extend the CV axles.

[@lesterma1608]

@@VanCompass will the stock strut still give a 2” lift and is the rear lift a separate kit?

[@nafsucof]

just stick portals on there

[@RicViperskylogs]

Any kits for the aWd dually

[@VanCompass]

We do have kits for the dually AWD Transit.

[@chefduane3742]

While you say that you make use of the factory coil spring, would VC also offer a stiffer spring if I had VC so the install? Thanks!

[@chefduane3742]

Oops! You just answered my question!