So this week I've gone from wanting a SystemSix to a Time Machine and, as I expected, finishing off with Trek coming along and offering the golden egg. C'mon lottery numbers 🤞
You didn't mention if you felt any difference between the softest and hardest settings on the iso speed frame. Can we then conclude it doesn't do anything or is insignificant?
Hello, I'm on the market for a Trek Madone. I'm 182cm and inseam 83cm. I'm wonder if I need a 58 as according TREK sizing chart or 56 (as I have a Canyon ultimate disc medium which is very comfortable). Thanks a lot for support :)
Why don't bike companies test out their bikes in rural Canada where you get 25- 30 km hr winds coming at you , this would be perfect for Aero bike testing. You would also need some track cyclists to battle those 30 km hr wind gusts. Canada is perfect for bike Training as the winds here are unpredictable and one way of the ride is always going to bust you up.
Hi. I would really apprecciate your advise. I own a 2017 Trek Madone 9.8 and I want to change to disc brakes. I value comfort and aesthetics and my two candidates are the new Trek Madone slr or the Specialized Venge, both with the new etap group set. Thank you for your time and for such profesional reviews. Great Job as always. Isaac forma Spain
Nathan Phillips the saddle is still a decent bit higher than the bars. I think the post-in-mast design makes it seem shorter, especially compared to something like the Venge, which slopes the toptube to expose more post.
At this point it's silly to build an "aero" bike with disk wheels and traditional cables of any kind. Go full electronic/hydraulic to achieve better drag results and realistic maintenance if you want it to be a full time machine.
I tried both the Madone and the Domane 5.2 when I was purchasing a new roadbike ... I purchased the Domane 5.2 ... liked the ride better, especially for Metric&Centuries as it's not about the first 10 miles ... but the last 10 miles. I would upgrade to a Domane w/ Disc's ... BUT ... I only ride bikes w/ a "Triple" upfront ... NEVER(!!!) a Compact Double ... and these here have Compact Doubles (from pic's) Before you try to give me a "bogus" sales job for a "Compact Double" ... I am a Degreed Mechanical Eng ... and "Mechanics" I did very well in ... (Electrical Eng ... not so much) The gear range is like a loaf of bread ... the loaf maybe a bit larger or smaller ... but close enough ... now w/ my 3/10, I have 30 slices in the "loaf"... w/ a compact double 2/11 I have 22 slices in the same loaf .... HHhhmmmmm ..... There is of course some gearing overlap at the ground/rear tire ... but the combination of different ratios feels different to my legs ... and all my bikes have "triples" on them ... road, hybrid, and mountain .... and I ain't changing after all these years ... Like the "Red" one best ... and it will be the fastest !!! HaHaHa
These companies must be laughing all the way to the bank with how much their charging....10k for an Ultegra di2 version in Australia is highway robbery.
I've never heard 10-20g of drag before, and 10 watts sounds like a bit much. Did you mean the equivalent of losing 10-20g of weight? Sorry to bother in either case the phrasing is odd.
I guess it's equivalent to the gravitational force of 10 - 20g of mass. That's 0.1 to 0.2 N of force. W = N * m/s, so 1 - 2 W at 40kph. W = kg * 9.81 * kph / 3.6, but that only works for the speed it was measured at.
Yang Guan Tang it's significantly lighter though, at 7.4ish kg. EDIT: nope the website says 7.65. Still lighter, but not by much. The Venge is definitely looking like the winner here.
Saurabh Kulkarni among the new batch, the propel looks the worse for some reason even though they have all streamlined to the same tube profiles and geometry.. Could be the paintjob or that stem
still blows my mind with all these crazy expensive bikes they still use electrical tape on bar tape, maybe come up with a premium material with branding that looks clean..
James it's not about being better than anyone, it's about using your language properly. When you speak improperly you are signaling others that you're not very intelligent, because otherwise you would've picked up on your mistake. You're also showing a lack of awareness of general structure and order, besides, of course, a lack of attention to detail. I've never met someone who could write/speak impeccably, that was careless or stupid.
A C Yes there probably is a high correlation between IQ and correct use of English. I still value his opinion. My attempt at humour was poor. I made myself laugh at least.
Nb. The word 'correct' indicates when sth. is right, 'proper' when sth. is appropriate. Improper usually means inappropriate. It's perhaps clearer to say 'When you speak incorrectly.. '
Wow the sound at 3:10 is clipped to shit haha What does it look like for your brand if you can’t be bothered to pay for someone to record the sound properly for the director of road bikes to promote such a premium product
Firsthgyhgyhuy Lastujhujhuj why the anger there buddy? And ummm... guarantee you I speak better English than you. Not quite sure why being American means that I can't speak English.
cycling T-Holms hopefully you understand that he means English people are the authority on the language known as "English". The question really should be "Why do Americans say aich and zee, not haich and zed?"
Saurabh Kulkarni haha well do your research pals...even the BBC came under fire because some presenters suddenly began saying "haich" instead of just simply the letter H...but i get what u guys have opted to do...just throw insults at people instead of researching things and educating yourselves.
"More stiffer"? "The jury is not quite OUT"? Do you do this for a living? I would of thought someone with such a dull personality would at least be intelligent.
Bikes are getting uglier and uglier each year, and at what cost? The people on the local group rides or the people that I have come across on the roads that have these bikes are never any faster.
I'm not into road bikes, but this is a quite stunning looking bike.
So this week I've gone from wanting a SystemSix to a Time Machine and, as I expected, finishing off with Trek coming along and offering the golden egg. C'mon lottery numbers 🤞
Jon Burnell then you see the new Venge too 😂
Alexi Aragon Lol. Not this time. I feel the new Spesh has gone backwards, I actually prefer the last Venue Vias.
Someone has to get all these new bikes together and compare their performance under similar conditions on road and track.
Black Mesa Ooh ooh ooh, me me me 😂
Black Mesa yes a big test is due on all this seasons new aero offering ASAP. Surely someone will 🙌🏽
OVLC, you heard it first here on Cycling Weekly
You didn't mention if you felt any difference between the softest and hardest settings on the iso speed frame. Can we then conclude it doesn't do anything or is insignificant?
You will notice the difference. It‘s hughe
The new barstem is great.
Hello, I'm on the market for a Trek Madone. I'm 182cm and inseam 83cm. I'm wonder if I need a 58 as according TREK sizing chart or 56 (as I have a Canyon ultimate disc medium which is very comfortable). Thanks a lot for support :)
Seriously enjoyed the quickness of my 5.2 Madone. RIP. Got lots of looks asking "where are the breaks?"
Question, How much faster are you on rides? Any PRs and is your timing any faster on your local rides compared to last bike?
Why don't bike companies test out their bikes in rural Canada where you get 25- 30 km hr winds coming at you , this would be perfect for Aero bike testing. You would also need some track cyclists to battle those 30 km hr wind gusts. Canada is perfect for bike Training as the winds here are unpredictable and one way of the ride is always going to bust you up.
Hi what size is this bike trek Malone sir disc with out d2.
Hi. I would really apprecciate your advise. I own a 2017 Trek Madone 9.8 and I want to change to disc brakes. I value comfort and aesthetics and my two candidates are the new Trek Madone slr or the Specialized Venge, both with the new etap group set. Thank you for your time and for such profesional reviews. Great Job as always. Isaac forma Spain
The frame is not made in the US??
Is this particular Madone Hank's?
I think it s OCLV
Blake.is optimum void low compression? 😂
Hi what is the size of this madone slr disc bike and what is the cost.
Requesting all the new aero bikes head to head review ;)
@0:15 chasing mountain goats off the road?
Are you really short or is that frame a strange shape?
Nathan Phillips the saddle is still a decent bit higher than the bars. I think the post-in-mast design makes it seem shorter, especially compared to something like the Venge, which slopes the toptube to expose more post.
Hello, what is height / inseam of rider & bike size?
What size tires (or tyres if you prefer) will it fit?
Nice brand trek the best quality i like.
How is the bike "super fast"? it has an engine?
The adjustable frame will be canned in No time its a gimmick like biopace was and suspension posts. Roadies dont want or need suspension
What size are the frame that you ride?
Grande bici!!!
Lol you beat Bike radar by 10 seconds
Ben Dover its all about marginal gains lmao
Aquí en mi ciudad solamente hay 3 madone y en el video se mira un peloton completo con madone valla que diferencia :’(
At this point it's silly to build an "aero" bike with disk wheels and traditional cables of any kind. Go full electronic/hydraulic to achieve better drag results and realistic maintenance if you want it to be a full time machine.
Rafael Dark sagan and others winning on aero disc
I tried both the Madone and the Domane 5.2 when I was purchasing a new roadbike ... I purchased the Domane 5.2 ... liked the ride better, especially for Metric&Centuries as it's not about the first 10 miles ... but the last 10 miles. I would upgrade to a Domane w/ Disc's ... BUT ... I only ride bikes w/ a "Triple" upfront ... NEVER(!!!) a Compact Double ... and these here have Compact Doubles (from pic's)
Before you try to give me a "bogus" sales job for a "Compact Double" ... I am a Degreed Mechanical Eng ... and "Mechanics" I did very well in ... (Electrical Eng ... not so much)
The gear range is like a loaf of bread ... the loaf maybe a bit larger or smaller ... but close enough ... now w/ my 3/10, I have 30 slices in the "loaf"... w/ a compact double 2/11 I have 22 slices in the same loaf .... HHhhmmmmm .....
There is of course some gearing overlap at the ground/rear tire ... but the combination of different ratios feels different to my legs ... and all my bikes have "triples" on them ... road, hybrid, and mountain .... and I ain't changing after all these years ...
Like the "Red" one best ... and it will be the fastest !!! HaHaHa
How much?
These companies must be laughing all the way to the bank with how much their charging....10k for an Ultegra di2 version in Australia is highway robbery.
High time Canyon wakes up and gets a new Aeroad.
So you sent a journalist on a launch who had not ridden the last version! Pointless empty review.
This channel is gonna massively suffer after losing Ollie!! That was a very uninspiring video of a hugely inspiring bike
There is no such letter as “haitch”, FYI.
but why do you haitch it?;(
I've never heard 10-20g of drag before, and 10 watts sounds like a bit much. Did you mean the equivalent of losing 10-20g of weight? Sorry to bother in either case the phrasing is odd.
I guess it's equivalent to the gravitational force of 10 - 20g of mass. That's 0.1 to 0.2 N of force. W = N * m/s, so 1 - 2 W at 40kph.
W = kg * 9.81 * kph / 3.6, but that only works for the speed it was measured at.
Looks too bulky and sci-fi for me. The seat posts looks hideous. I like emondas but not this. I prefer the venge for a more minimal look
Love it all, except for the downtube branding which is 3X too big
David W I actually like the huge logo for some reason
Mostly just on the team models, plenty of color schemes available with more discreet logos.
David W I totally agree, I'm reminded of tacky clothing brands with big 'designer' labels.
Brasil 🇧🇷👍👏✌
Price ???
rizwan mj if you need to ask you cant afford it
Seems bulky compared to the new other aeros
Yang Guan Tang it's significantly lighter though, at 7.4ish kg. EDIT: nope the website says 7.65. Still lighter, but not by much. The Venge is definitely looking like the winner here.
Firsthgyhgyhuy Lastujhujhuj thanks
Saurabh Kulkarni among the new batch, the propel looks the worse for some reason even though they have all streamlined to the same tube profiles and geometry.. Could be the paintjob or that stem
Why can't you say H
how can the bike be faster than you can pedal?
marketing helps you to pedal :D
still blows my mind with all these crazy expensive bikes they still use electrical tape on bar tape, maybe come up with a premium material with branding that looks clean..
cyclingfaction it works and you can buy it easy
Bontrager actually packs most of their tapes with lightweight branded tape ends, but I still prefer electrical tape.
3:01 more stiffer? Did they have schools where you grew up? Do you think journalists should not be held to high standards for grammar?
More stifferer is the correct pronunciation. Im more correcter because im an intelectual elite and im betterer than you. Ooooh can you feel that
James it's not about being better than anyone, it's about using your language properly.
When you speak improperly you are signaling others that you're not very intelligent, because otherwise you would've picked up on your mistake. You're also showing a lack of awareness of general structure and order, besides, of course, a lack of attention to detail.
I've never met someone who could write/speak impeccably, that was careless or stupid.
A C Yes there probably is a high correlation between IQ and correct use of English. I still value his opinion. My attempt at humour was poor. I made myself laugh at least.
Nb. The word 'correct' indicates when sth. is right, 'proper' when sth. is appropriate. Improper usually means inappropriate. It's perhaps clearer to say 'When you speak incorrectly.. '
Derek Marlowe, do you feel the need to fit people in this grammar police box of yours to justify your mediocrity?
Enjoy the vids , please though , when videoing your piece to camera look at the camera and not yourself as you lose that connection with the viewer
Wow the sound at 3:10 is clipped to shit haha
What does it look like for your brand if you can’t be bothered to pay for someone to record the sound properly for the director of road bikes to promote such a premium product
"Ovlc", "more stiffer". Come on cycling weekly, you guys are relevant enough to be invited to test ride events but you let mistakes like this pass.
Can somebody PLEASEEEEE explain to me why you Brits say "haich" instead of just saying the letter "H"?!?!?!?!?! Drives me mad hahaha.
Firsthgyhgyhuy Lastujhujhuj why the anger there buddy? And ummm... guarantee you I speak better English than you. Not quite sure why being American means that I can't speak English.
Firsthgyhgyhuy Lastujhujhuj and let me guess...you're also one of the people that takes offense when people say Froome shouldn't be racing?
cycling T-Holms hopefully you understand that he means English people are the authority on the language known as "English". The question really should be "Why do Americans say aich and zee, not haich and zed?"
Saurabh Kulkarni haha well do your research pals...even the BBC came under fire because some presenters suddenly began saying "haich" instead of just simply the letter H...but i get what u guys have opted to do...just throw insults at people instead of researching things and educating yourselves.
Saurabh Kulkarni Aluminum when the processed alloy is Aluminium
❤❤💯💯😍😍
Last but not least.
Trek is smart to offer rim brakes version. Because the disc brakes spoilt the look of the bike.
I’m about to pull the trigger .. 🙄
Holy $#!+😍
Rim brake 100%
It's LOOK Heavy
To expensive I will wait for a Chinese company to copy the frame and sell it cheaper :-)
Clarence Cruden already do make cheaper chinese aero its called a canyon
Just another over priced bike
this bike is bizarre
Money usa $
"More stiffer"? "The jury is not quite OUT"? Do you do this for a living? I would of thought someone with such a dull personality would at least be intelligent.
Bikes are getting uglier and uglier each year, and at what cost? The people on the local group rides or the people that I have come across on the roads that have these bikes are never any faster.
academyrulz until the super fit guy passes on the latest bike and you sink to a new low
i will beat you easy with my orbea orca