@@berryreading4809 military aviators fly sims in the military to keep current and work on procedures. If he was just doing computer based sims on a deployment, that doesn't point to what he did or didn't do as a flying career. Maybe this dude was on a deployment with Jeff and Jeff had a nonflying billet at the time? Who knows. If you're going to contribute, make it useful eh
@@cwr8618 Jeff was not an aviator, he was just flying simulators on his computer on deployment during down time. We were both attached to a helo squadron back in 2008 aboard the Abraham Lincoln.
@@butters6996 thanks man. Makes the story even better. Not that military folks don't work hard (they definitely put in the hrs), but sounds like you dudes were enlisted. Coming from one prior enlisted who later got into flying, it takes a shit ton of work and dedication to go from an enlisted career to flying anything professionally so hats off for the focused effort. I chose not to follow through with flying helos in the Corps for personal reasons, but I'm still flying GA and love it. Cheers to you and your broham.
I flew with Orange in Ontario Canada for a 6 month contract - Not a bad job but some pads were extremely difficult to land due to wind sheer between hospital buildings. I'm retired now but I would for sure do it again. Cheers everybody
this is exactly what i want to do. I work alongside these guys and calibrate the medical equipment these guys have and I love seeing the helicopters. My job doesn't know it yet, but they are showing me what i really want to do lol
Daegan, that is so cool that you work with them already. It must be such a fun job, even though dangerous at times. Also, if it weren't for the support they get from professionals like you, they wouldn't be able to do their thing. It's such an amazing coordinated team effort to see.
I have he utmost respect for these men and women.I'm retired from the E.M.S. after 18 years of service ,my first experience was with a Ex-Vietnam pilot. His expertise to his job was amazing. This guy could put his craft down on a dime and give you nine cent's change. Again cu-dose to all E.M.S Pilots .
The local EMS helicopter guys near me are provided housing across from the hospital. Its just funny seeing super skilled pilots and EMS technicians wearing flightsuits walk the sidewalks to go to work 😄👍(its a rural area, and not really a "walkable" town)
What’s the average length of time to get 2000 hrs if your flying full time? Is agriculture/charter usually the fastest way to gain hours? Thanks in advance
Happy your such a important part of saving these lives and your one very a angel flying above helping those in desperate need of flight medicine❤.heros yall are🎉
Thanks Shane, we would truly want to do a video about LEO pilot. Do you fly an A-Star? Or fixed wing? Wish we had the budget to head down to FL but that’s tough for us at this point. In the future, that’s what we’d like to be able to do. Any suggestions on who we can call in the Orange County, CA area?
@@careersteer6497 My unit operates surplus OH-58's that we have equipped with modern LEO mission equipment. Sorry no, I do not have any contacts in CA but I will try to find someone. We would be happy to have you here on the Treasure Coast in the future.
C.W. "mover" Lemoine's channel has a couple of cool videos about LEO helicopter flying/ ride alongs with his local department in Louisiana. I'm guessing it might be his own job soon enough 😉
Shane, how is life as a helo pilot for the sheriffs dept in Florida? Is the pay good? Im really serious about relocating to florida. Right now Im in a college rotor wing flight program in southern Utah and cant wait to get started.
This is awesome!! I'd be terrified to fly alone, and I'm a bit of a thrill seeker :) I think it's interesting you mention differing personalities in the field...I don't think people realize what that means until you're in it. You touch on some really useful, beneficial information for everyone. Thanks for sharing this!
Thanks Heather. I'm actually a pilot myself, so I know exactly what Jeff is talking about here. Sometimes it can be a bit harrowing - especially when weather creeps into the picture. He was great and I just got confirmation from Orange County Fire Authority that I can interview their Firefighters and also their Helicopter pilot. Looking forward to interviewing more non-aircraft related people too. (like maybe a Forensic Psychologist??)
@@careersteer6497 I think my first introduction to helicopters was a couple months ago after moving to DTLA, lol. I, literally, had never been so close to helicopters that were flying in the air. This was right when the protests started, and there was usually a group of them, but one of the choppers would literally be swooping down and shining its spotlight on bad things happening, it was crazy to witness, but also seemed like a lot of fun. Those guys are bad ass. I'll listen to the police scanner every now and then to check out what's going on. That's awesome you're going to interview OC Fire Authority...that seems like a pretty big deal. I noticed one of your vids said Reno...I lived there just over a year before I moved here. Small world. I'm game to do an interview...that sounds like fun.
@@g0ne_dark Thanks Heather. You lived in Reno? That's where my sister lives, who I featured in the flight nurse video coming out very soon. (I'm finishing the edits right now actually) Small world. I'll send you an email about an interview. :)
You can get qualified in helicopter flight through the army, navy, air force or marines. You gain valuable flight training in exchange for risking your life in combat.
My question is how did you afford to get the certification? From what i've seen it ranges from $60k - $150k depending on certifications and if it's also for a degree.
Salary numbers are too high. Base pay is usually between 67-73k. Incentives varies by location and company and usually fall short of the actual cost of living in these areas! For instance San Diego... one of the biggest Air Medical providers pays 150% of your base pay. So if you start at 67k you will make 100k a year... in the middle of San Diego! As soon as the base is slightly outside (Oceanside, El Cajon) it is 130% only... so 87k a year... In that area in California you don't impress anyone with that salary! This is just one example!
Thanks for clarifying, Peter. We can obviously only go by what the experience of our particular subject is, and I'm glad you can help shed some light on a bit more of a reality of the market these days.
No biggie! I want people (pilots) to have all the information they can get to make the right decision to switch into HEMS. Dealing with medcrew is a whole new topic!
@@BigPandtheTwins Thanks Peter, we'd like to also interview other Helo pilots and crews, most notably power line repair, tree cutting, fire suppression, etc. We're working on it.
Jeff did a very good job explaining this. Pretty much spot on. I've been an EMS Pilot for 23 years. I work for one of the sister companies that Jeff works for. I do not know Jeff. I started out in the Army. When I left active duty I flew in the Gulf of Mexico for a year because the total flight hour requirements were higher back then. There is a forth way. Completely out of pocket part 61. That is probably the least desirable way as it will take much longer. But it can be done. I wish the up and coming pilots the best. Network! Try to find a mentor.
What about dicey/downright risky weather conditions...are you the final decision-maker on whether a flight is a go/no-go? Because people's lives are at stake, do you feel pressure sometimes (whether internal or external) to take risks you might not normally take?
Pretty sure he got his fixed wing first, then his helicopter rating. He liked helicopters so much that he became an instructor and paid for all the subsequent ratings that way. That’s also how he built up hours to meet company hiring requirements. It’s the most common way other than Military.
It would no doubt be marketed in the US as an A-Star (single engine squirrel), that particular model is a Eurocopter AS350 B3e (later designated H125 by Airbus). Despite the AS model number, it is a Eurocopter built machine.
@@mrwest5552 the helo in the video he is piloting is an A-Star. I flew in both A-Stars and in EC 135/145s. 135/145s are like luxury vehicles compared to the room in an A-Star lol.
@@jeffmcgovern5674 Appreciated reply, This week i had the chance to get my up close view of the local air ems EC135 in flight, 60 feet from it on approach to the hospital helipad.. as if on a laser line it approached so stable.
Most Companies have a minimum of flight hours before they will even look at you. Don't think your just going to get your license and go to work "Not gonna happen" it takes time to build hours plus the ratings your going to need.
Hello there! I have a question. Would military flying experience make you stand out in job selections? I am finishing training soon and am planning for a civilian job when I get out.
Hi William, I am told by many MedEvac outfits that military time and experience is always favorable as long as it is in similar type of aircraft. Obviously, if you flew C-17 Globemasters, and are looking for a Heli job... not so much. But if you flew turbine helicopters? Uh, yeah, definitely a plus. That's according to some of my ATC friends and other Heli pilots.
I was part of an EMS flight crew and 4 out of my 5 pilots were military trained. 3 were Vietnam Vets and 1 was Desert Storm Vet. It helps because of the sheer hours of flying they did and the different ratings. One of the pilots was recently forced to retire after hitting 80 but was in better shape (physically and mentally) than any of the crew members!
Just how many times is he going to tell us “ his job is to fly the helicopter “. I’m thinking he just might be the king of redundancy . Yes he’s the king of redundancies. To put it another way “ i fly the helicopter and check the weather. “. But let me put it another way”. I’m a helicopter pilot that checks the weather.”
I'll tell ya this right now. In the civillian world of flying fixed wing airplanes or rotory wing helicopters, ya may not need to have any required colledge coarses for flight school (cost of money is a huge factor in this), but if one decide to join the US military to become an airplane pilot, jet pilot, or helicopter pilot, YOU WILL BE REQUIRED TO GO TO O.C.T. Command Acadamy for your colledge coarses before the required military flight school. This is all the "red tape" of becomming a military pilot of anykind!!!
That could be true. Depends on your experience and the company involved. I mean, let’s face it… every career has its ups and downs. Especially this one. (Pun intended)
I was in the navy with Jeff, i remember watching him do flight simulators on deployment lol. Im glad he’s doing what he was meant to do.
what did he fly in the navy?
He just told you he flew simulators lol, I'm guessing he became a professional pilot as a civilian.
@@berryreading4809 military aviators fly sims in the military to keep current and work on procedures. If he was just doing computer based sims on a deployment, that doesn't point to what he did or didn't do as a flying career. Maybe this dude was on a deployment with Jeff and Jeff had a nonflying billet at the time? Who knows. If you're going to contribute, make it useful eh
@@cwr8618 Jeff was not an aviator, he was just flying simulators on his computer on deployment during down time. We were both attached to a helo squadron back in 2008 aboard the Abraham Lincoln.
@@butters6996 thanks man. Makes the story even better. Not that military folks don't work hard (they definitely put in the hrs), but sounds like you dudes were enlisted. Coming from one prior enlisted who later got into flying, it takes a shit ton of work and dedication to go from an enlisted career to flying anything professionally so hats off for the focused effort. I chose not to follow through with flying helos in the Corps for personal reasons, but I'm still flying GA and love it. Cheers to you and your broham.
I flew with Orange in Ontario Canada for a 6 month contract - Not a bad job but some pads were extremely difficult to land due to wind sheer between hospital buildings. I'm retired now but I would for sure do it again. Cheers everybody
this is exactly what i want to do. I work alongside these guys and calibrate the medical equipment these guys have and I love seeing the helicopters. My job doesn't know it yet, but they are showing me what i really want to do lol
Daegan, that is so cool that you work with them already. It must be such a fun job, even though dangerous at times. Also, if it weren't for the support they get from professionals like you, they wouldn't be able to do their thing. It's such an amazing coordinated team effort to see.
I have he utmost respect for these men and women.I'm retired from the E.M.S. after 18 years of service ,my first experience was with a Ex-Vietnam pilot. His expertise to his job was amazing. This guy could put his craft down on a dime and give you nine cent's change. Again cu-dose to all E.M.S Pilots .
Thanks William and thank you for your EMs service. It is due to dedicated and steadfast folks like you that many people are saved.
The local EMS helicopter guys near me are provided housing across from the hospital. Its just funny seeing super skilled pilots and EMS technicians wearing flightsuits walk the sidewalks to go to work 😄👍(its a rural area, and not really a "walkable" town)
This is my dream job!
5:55 glad he highlighted this, a crew truly makes or breaks a pilot. All the best to your channel! #SkyBaum
Indeed. Thanks for watching!
I live in Northern Nevada. So good to be able to put a face to Care flight. Thank you and the flight crew for your service to our communities.
2000 hours is the bench mark for being hired as an EMS pilot. Very few exceptions to this rule.
What’s the average length of time to get 2000 hrs if your flying full time? Is agriculture/charter usually the fastest way to gain hours? Thanks in advance
Happy your such a important part of saving these lives and your one very a angel flying above helping those in desperate need of flight medicine❤.heros yall are🎉
Another outstanding video! Nice work, Andy!
Thanks Steve! We’re rolling now. Got another few in editing, so please share and let us know how we can improve and what you’d like to see.
Great video. I'd love to do a video with you about being a Law Enforcement pilot/Sheriffs Deputy with a Sheriff's office in south Florida.
Thanks Shane, we would truly want to do a video about LEO pilot. Do you fly an A-Star? Or fixed wing? Wish we had the budget to head down to FL but that’s tough for us at this point. In the future, that’s what we’d like to be able to do. Any suggestions on who we can call in the Orange County, CA area?
@@careersteer6497 My unit operates surplus OH-58's that we have equipped with modern LEO mission equipment.
Sorry no, I do not have any contacts in CA but I will try to find someone. We would be happy to have you here on the Treasure Coast in the future.
@@careersteer6497 Perhaps Chris Tronaas would be willing to do one?
C.W. "mover" Lemoine's channel has a couple of cool videos about LEO helicopter flying/ ride alongs with his local department in Louisiana. I'm guessing it might be his own job soon enough 😉
Shane, how is life as a helo pilot for the sheriffs dept in Florida? Is the pay good? Im really serious about relocating to florida. Right now Im in a college rotor wing flight program in southern Utah and cant wait to get started.
This is awesome!! I'd be terrified to fly alone, and I'm a bit of a thrill seeker :) I think it's interesting you mention differing personalities in the field...I don't think people realize what that means until you're in it. You touch on some really useful, beneficial information for everyone. Thanks for sharing this!
Thanks Heather. I'm actually a pilot myself, so I know exactly what Jeff is talking about here. Sometimes it can be a bit harrowing - especially when weather creeps into the picture. He was great and I just got confirmation from Orange County Fire Authority that I can interview their Firefighters and also their Helicopter pilot. Looking forward to interviewing more non-aircraft related people too. (like maybe a Forensic Psychologist??)
@@careersteer6497 I think my first introduction to helicopters was a couple months ago after moving to DTLA, lol. I, literally, had never been so close to helicopters that were flying in the air. This was right when the protests started, and there was usually a group of them, but one of the choppers would literally be swooping down and shining its spotlight on bad things happening, it was crazy to witness, but also seemed like a lot of fun. Those guys are bad ass. I'll listen to the police scanner every now and then to check out what's going on. That's awesome you're going to interview OC Fire Authority...that seems like a pretty big deal. I noticed one of your vids said Reno...I lived there just over a year before I moved here. Small world. I'm game to do an interview...that sounds like fun.
@@g0ne_dark Thanks Heather. You lived in Reno? That's where my sister lives, who I featured in the flight nurse video coming out very soon. (I'm finishing the edits right now actually) Small world.
I'll send you an email about an interview. :)
Thank you......
You can get qualified in helicopter flight through the army, navy, air force or marines. You gain valuable flight training in exchange for risking your life in combat.
if you go the military rout they might still have to convert over to civilian! The hours are for insurance purposes pretty much
My question is how did you afford to get the certification? From what i've seen it ranges from $60k - $150k depending on certifications and if it's also for a degree.
Jeff is veteran that i served with so im sure he used his GI Bill benefits to get his ratings
Also, Jeff was a Certified Flight Instructor immediately after he got his helicopter certificate, so that’s what he used to build flight hours.
2000 hrs. total flight time to start. Then there's x amount of turbine time, PIC time etc.
Salary numbers are too high. Base pay is usually between 67-73k. Incentives varies by location and company and usually fall short of the actual cost of living in these areas! For instance San Diego... one of the biggest Air Medical providers pays 150% of your base pay. So if you start at 67k you will make 100k a year... in the middle of San Diego! As soon as the base is slightly outside (Oceanside, El Cajon) it is 130% only... so 87k a year... In that area in California you don't impress anyone with that salary! This is just one example!
Thanks for clarifying, Peter. We can obviously only go by what the experience of our particular subject is, and I'm glad you can help shed some light on a bit more of a reality of the market these days.
No biggie! I want people (pilots) to have all the information they can get to make the right decision to switch into HEMS. Dealing with medcrew is a whole new topic!
@@BigPandtheTwins Thanks Peter, we'd like to also interview other Helo pilots and crews, most notably power line repair, tree cutting, fire suppression, etc. We're working on it.
@@careersteer6497 let me know if you need help
@@BigPandtheTwins Thanks Peter, we will take you up on that I'm sure.
Jeff did a very good job explaining this. Pretty much spot on. I've been an EMS Pilot for 23 years. I work for one of the sister companies that Jeff works for. I do not know Jeff. I started out in the Army. When I left active duty I flew in the Gulf of Mexico for a year because the total flight hour requirements were higher back then. There is a forth way. Completely out of pocket part 61. That is probably the least desirable way as it will take much longer. But it can be done. I wish the up and coming pilots the best. Network! Try to find a mentor.
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Thank you for your service, Paul! Yes, part 61 is a lot tougher. Certainly helps if you can get others to pay for your flight hours.
I worked for med-trans. Saw a lot of AS-350 and bell-407. Have they upgraded their fleet?
This was Care Flight in Reno/Truckee area. They have AStars. Some are equipped for mountain flight.
what brand of this litter kit are you using in this helicopter? it looks awesome
How many helicopters do you have on site just incase of one needs maintenance problems?
I know Jeff must be nervous but he looks like a hostage doing a proof of life video.
Haha. That’s certainly a unique viewpoint. He’s a pilot and not accustomed to being interviewed by anyone other than the FAA.
@@careersteer6497 It wasn't a jab at him. I know the feeling and the look personally. So I can sympathize.
What about dicey/downright risky weather conditions...are you the final decision-maker on whether a flight is a go/no-go? Because people's lives are at stake, do you feel pressure sometimes (whether internal or external) to take risks you might not normally take?
Thanks Sun Search. Yes, the PIC (Pilot in Command) has the final say as to whether the flight happens or not.
Can't be on any plane too much butterfly's looking down. I say better then looking back,forward is where it's at.
I would love to know how he paid for both fixed wing and helicopter training at the same time.
Pretty sure he got his fixed wing first, then his helicopter rating. He liked helicopters so much that he became an instructor and paid for all the subsequent ratings that way. That’s also how he built up hours to meet company hiring requirements. It’s the most common way other than Military.
Who determines what hospital yall go to? And what it time from dispatch to take off?
? That blue ship sold as Aerospacial ? A-Star ? or Twin Star.
It would no doubt be marketed in the US as an A-Star (single engine squirrel), that particular model is a Eurocopter AS350 B3e (later designated H125 by Airbus). Despite the AS model number, it is a Eurocopter built machine.
@@evilldoggy No Sir, the ship i commented about is EC135.
@@mrwest5552 the helo in the video he is piloting is an A-Star. I flew in both A-Stars and in EC 135/145s. 135/145s are like luxury vehicles compared to the room in an A-Star lol.
@@jeffmcgovern5674 Appreciated reply, This week i had the chance to get my up close view of the local air ems EC135 in flight, 60 feet from it on approach to the hospital helipad.. as if on a laser line it approached so stable.
Most Companies have a minimum of flight hours before they will even look at you. Don't think your just going to get your license and go to work "Not gonna happen" it takes time to build hours plus the ratings your going to need.
Very true. Great point, Kevin.
That’s exactly what he said in the video. Gotta fly tours got a fly aerial photography build your hours.
Was this filmed in Utah?
Love u guys from india💕
Hello there! I have a question. Would military flying experience make you stand out in job selections? I am finishing training soon and am planning for a civilian job when I get out.
Hi William, I am told by many MedEvac outfits that military time and experience is always favorable as long as it is in similar type of aircraft. Obviously, if you flew C-17 Globemasters, and are looking for a Heli job... not so much. But if you flew turbine helicopters? Uh, yeah, definitely a plus. That's according to some of my ATC friends and other Heli pilots.
I was part of an EMS flight crew and 4 out of my 5 pilots were military trained. 3 were Vietnam Vets and 1 was Desert Storm Vet. It helps because of the sheer hours of flying they did and the different ratings. One of the pilots was recently forced to retire after hitting 80 but was in better shape (physically and mentally) than any of the crew members!
Tiny airframe for EMS.
Fr compared to the eurocopters
@@notapplicable4567 this is an eurocopter
@@955none oh i aint knmean the bigger one, with the doors at the back
0:16sec he looked stoned
It's my dreaming
Why did he look so scared in the intro lol
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Just how many times is he going to tell us “ his job is to fly the helicopter “. I’m thinking he just might be the king of redundancy . Yes he’s the king of redundancies. To put it another way “ i fly the helicopter and check the weather. “. But let me put it another way”. I’m a helicopter pilot that checks the weather.”
I'll tell ya this right now. In the civillian world of flying fixed wing airplanes or rotory wing helicopters, ya may not need to have any required colledge coarses for flight school (cost of money is a huge factor in this), but if one decide to join the US military to become an airplane pilot, jet pilot, or helicopter pilot, YOU WILL BE REQUIRED TO GO TO O.C.T. Command Acadamy for your colledge coarses before the required military flight school. This is all the "red tape" of becomming a military pilot of anykind!!!
It’s not everything it’s cracked up to be.
That could be true. Depends on your experience and the company involved. I mean, let’s face it… every career has its ups and downs. Especially this one. (Pun intended)
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Doubt anyone else could’ve said it more articulately.
Essentially, be ex-military, check
Nope. Be a certified helo pilot with professional hours. Lots and lots of professional hours. Military, tour, transport, instructor, etc.
xo
Glorified simple minded video that suits junior kindergarten and not the real world.
Sorry you feel that way. Maybe you could start a channel and provide a much superior experience. (We will wait…)