Hey everyone, Jesse here. I think I missed the mark on explaining something in the video so I wanted to clear it up here. This is the biggest step we've ever taken and we need to give it everything we've got. But we are not putting our content behind a paywall. For years now, we've been posting free content on UA-cam and IG / FB; along with exclusive content on Patreon - all of which takes a ton of time, energy, and resources. So for a temporary period, we're simply putting a pause on our free content while keeping our Patreon going as it has been. My goal with this video was to invite you to come along for the journey, but if you’re not able to, I COMPLETELY understand. We'll see you soon and we'll absolutely share what we learn during this period! 🤘🏻 J.
I'm not familiar with your Patreon content, so as a casual YT follower hearing "we're stopping 'free' content, but posting more than ever on Patreon!" seems... confusing at best. But, if your Patreon content is cell phone updates and things like that - then great, I think that makes sense. Maybe that is the disconnect. Anyways, congrats on the equipment, and I'm sure I'll watch your YT vids again when they resume.
All of your videos are pretty much ads for your products. I’m not paying to watch your videos. Maybe some other sucker would buy that BS, but I’m not stupid.
I do genuinely hope you succeed at what you're trying to do, but I'm hopeful that you understand why your announcement has left a bad taste in our mouths. It's not that your content is all moving behind a paywall temporarily, which we could easily understand, but that you're not willing to admit that it is. It seems dishonest to frame this as "going dark".
Really enjoy your videos and the effort that goes into them, and love your mission. It's a crucial one, no doubt about it. But this "going dark" thing isn't the move. Trash Panda and its cause needs all the attention and exposure it can get. The time and effort spent creating these great videos is the cost of making people notice, follow and become engaged. Telling a story while also selling people on an idea. I'd never even thought of recycled discs until I found your channel, and now I follow the journey closely. "Free content" is a relative term here since your viewers buy your discs, watch ads and spend their time watching and engaging. It feels bad being left in the dark when we know you could post the occasional short update, since you're doing it elsewhere. I really hope you can hype people up again in 2-3 months or however long this work will take. Anyways, I sincerely wish you good luck with the new machine!
I sincerely hope this works out for you. At the same time, I can't help but think keeping people in the dark while you are making your biggest steps forward might be counter-productive. I was one of those folks who was clicking refresh the day the Inner Core was launched because I believed in what you were doing. The only reason I was that committed was because I was able to be invested in your progress and vision. I know you said explicitly this wasn't a case where you were saying you were going dark and then would post again in a week or two, but I hope you will reconsider... especially considering you will already have content available for your patreon folks.
This is so epic!!! So cool to watch this journey unfold! Can’t wait for the day of Trashpanda sponsored players - pushing what is possible in the sport!
I believe in Trash Panda and their mission! Y'all got this, you guys are making a difference and terraforming the landscape of the sport and what's possible in the name of sustainability! Keep believing in yourselves!
I applaud the effort over the years and the successful products. I understand the business decision here. But even if you "go dark" I hope you still have a plan to document the development and learning process even if you can't share it until many months from now. I was drawn to this channel by a guy trying to make something from nothing out of his garage. The successes, failures, and learning moments were your best content. If content has to be delayed no worries. But it would be a huge missed opportunity to not capture that learning process in the coming months and share it freely down the road. The journey is just as valuable to us as the destination. Even if its delayed don't hide the journey.
@jasonrleevideo thank you for this comment! I wish I had articulated better that this was always the plan. So the journey will not be hidden - you've got yourself a deal 🤝 -Jesse
We’re going dark… but not really going dark. Just going dark for the people who don’t pay us directly to watch videos and completely abandoning the very aspect that gained you followers to begin with. Hope it works out for you guys
I work in plastic injection molding for (Mostly) RVs. That being said I love the process, learning about problems and solutions, the ways different plastics work (never knew you had to dry certain plastics until 4 years ago). Now with all of that love for this industry that i have, the main thing that upsets me is the the one way ticket that is plastics. Raw material to product, product to consumer, consumer to landfill. and the amount of waste is astronomical just from the plant. So I dont see just a guy working for a simple dream to make recycled discs. I see a dedicated man making the first stepping stone for the whole industry. First recycle a disc, then the world. Youve proven it is possible, and i am happy to be both a patron and to help hang on that lever for years to come. You are a true inspiration.
Go Jesse, and the team! I'm super excited for you and the next chapter in your story. I'm not sure I can afford the Patreon, but I'm still rooting for you. All the best! Looking to see what you can do with your new toy. "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the [disc golf] world." -Archimedes
I'm "on the lever" by buying the product. I don't want to pay for product updates though. It's a shame, I like seeing this story unfold on UA-cam. Good luck Jessie and all the rest.
This is a very interesting video… If there’s any confusion on Trash Panda’s end as a company regarding why this doesn’t sit well with most consumers: I think the problem with the whole thing is that the *choice* of “going nocturnal” genuinely seems pointless. It doesn’t make logical sense. In my mind and as an average disc golfer, Trash Panda doesn’t post on UA-cam very often in the first place. There is an occasional video updating us on random different stuff. So coming from the consumer perspective, I feel like I’m hearing “Okay so *we won’t be able to* make any of our normal free content because we need to focus ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF OUR EFFORTS on figuring out this injection molding machine thing, but if you want to support our patreon we’ll STILL be posting on there WEEKLY AND MORE THAN EVER BEFORE as if nothing ever happened to distract our time, energy, and talent elsewhere in the first place.” *There is obviously still time, energy, and focus being given to those who are paying for it.* So in reality, the burden of creating content isn’t really changing at all. You’re redirecting whatever little effort that was coming to UA-cam, all over to patreon behind a paywall. TP as a company is choosing to do that. My problem is that it doesn’t take THAT much effort to make one video a month updating the world for free, while still doing your normal paid patreon content. We can understand saying “overall social media interaction is going to be reduced.” We don’t understand “free content is pausing temporarily, paid content is increasing - because we need to focus.” I hope that is being made loud and clear, and TP learns from this. Genuinely not trying to be a hater. I’ve enjoyed following Trash Panda for the last couple of years, but this channel can come across as over-dramatic when it hyper focuses on different developments like this. The significance feels exaggerated to the average person. Obviously this has never been done before in terms of recycled discs. We get it. But if so many other disc manufacturers have figured out injection molding, there’s no reason TP can’t.
@cliffphotographs your comment is extremely well spoken and doesn't read like a "hater" at all. You and many others were left feeling this way from the video and for that I am truly sorry. If I could go back and offer more insight into the logistics involved in creating public content versus patreon content - which is designed to be more raw, lower lift, bts style - I absolutely would. As always, hindsight is 20/20 and I greatly appreciate your thoughtful comment for helping me understand and learn from this video. -Jesse
@@TrashPandaDiscGolf Regardless of this video/decision, I’m still hyped to see what y’all make in the future. Obviously you guys are in some uncharted territory when compared to the rest of the disc golf industry, but absolutely love the innovation that you guys are implementing and putting on display for the rest of the industry to acknowledge and respect. Can’t wait to have a bag full of your repurposed, recycled flyers 🤙🏻
Jesse you showed great courage and vulnerability and I love it! I love what you and your team are building with sustainable discs! I’m excited for you and your team!
Would have preferred to hear about this a few months out and given an opportunity to contribute to TP's success by signing up to Patreon. Instead, it makes it sound like they spent a bunch of money and need to herd their fanbase behind a paywall to make up for it. I value honesty over the inspirational storytelling. This was clickbait with a sad plot twist.
You got this brother. You are making disc golf and the world a better place. Keep doing you and can't wait to see what the future holds. You are awesome and an inspiration.
Congratulations on your FiRST injection machine!!! Stoked to see your success in the sport!! Keep up the great work and best of luck on the next chapter!!!!
For every person saying “you can’t do it” I hope there are five saying you can. Love the mission, love the discs, love the commitment. See you in 2-3 months!
Clear some room on that lever arm Jesse. Ive been meaning to do this for way too long. I've been watching since somewhere in the first 10 to 20 videos but have never taken the plunge. I'm so excited for you and trash panda as a whole!
So cool man. I know it’s going to work out awesome. Prayers for you and your team. I will certainly be buying your new fairway driver when it comes out. This time I won’t be getting it in snow white though. 😂
For those saying it can't be done. There is even more believing in you. The growth you guys have seen in the last two years has been exponential. I could not be happier to be a part of this community.
The day I become a pro disc golfer, I will be sponsored by Trash Panda. I hope! You guys are going to change the world one disc at a time. This will be the first patreon I will be joining
I know the feeling of getting new machine. Coming from a CNC lathe and milling background it was super exciting when we moved into a bigger shop. And we went BIG!!! From a 16k sq ft shop to 100k sq ft(80K shop floor). Seeing those new machines coming in was super exciting.
I hope the new disc gets a short video announcement here, not just on Patreon... It's the only way I'll hear that it's available. I'm pulling for you, but i'm only good for monetizing a company once, by buying the product. 😊
Bad move. You didn’t have to remind me I was in coach. (The cheap seats. I own seven of your discs. 4 markers. I put your sticker on my motorhome, and my Facebook feed for years. I don’t need extra Contant. I don’t even need contact every month. I’m in support of the concept. I still hope you figure it out. Tom recently put a thank you on my motorhome in Scottsdale. I appreciated that. But Tom, this seems a little off.
Hey there! Was super stoked to see you repping us out in Scottsdale. Really appreciate your support, and the reaction is totally understandable. I do think it’s worth mentioning that behind the scenes, getting the new machine is a MASSIVE undertaking that is hard to express over the course of a video. More than anyone, I’m stoked for when we come back and are able to once again dedicate the resources needed to put out quality content on UA-cam and other socials in addition to the existing patreon updates 🤘
@@tomtheplace7066 Thanks again for now the second nice note. I did appreciate it and tell all my card mates as we played by my rig. Don’t worry, I think I got all that you’re saying. As even a follower of paten pending, (I even love podcast like Freakonomics in planet money while I’m driving around the country) It brought two of my loves together. And Jessie could have a future in broadcasting. Such a great storyteller. I am pulling for you guys. I hope you do figure it out because I think other industries that deal in plastics might be able to duplicate what you guys are doing. I know you may want to encourage your Patreon channel. But remember, I and the others that were turned off feel like we are members. We saw a different vibe then you’re seeing. I have no problem not receiving content from you until you have content for me. I’ll be here. See ya soon.
Holy confusion, Batman. I just watched this in late April of 2024 because it came up as a UA-cam notification, I thought it was a just-now-upload, so I watched it, yes saw the note at the beginning about it being recorded Jan. 4th, but I thought it was like a look-back and now record thing. But then I see the machine, think, “Hm, that’s familiar,” recall recent videos from the channel, video ends, I check the date, and world’s biggest facepalm…this was posted in January. 🤦🏼♂️😂😂
So to sum it up: You are moving away from your partnership will a local injection business to fully funtion on your own. And that requires you to own your own injection machine, that you have now received, and will take some time for you and your staff to learn to use it without external assistance? Happy for your companies growth. It will really help our planet.
You rock. I totally yelled "YES !" when you said "NO!". I've got personal experience with the "experts" saying something was impossible. For them. But it was possible ! I wish you mega-success and luck. And thinking big picture here.....if we can make discs from 100% recycled plastic, couldn't we make ANYTHING ???? Plastic is great, but it's also terrible. Perhaps once you learn you'll become the EXPERTS and can go teach other companies how to make their plastic products from 100% recycled plastic. Oh, your team rocks too !
Please name that thing the “Trash Can” because it “CAN” change “TRASH”. I’ll also accept meal ticket or dinner table. 😂 So excited for this next step. I’m on the lever as much as I can afford which is buying your products for now. Can’t wait til the next one releases off this machine. I’ll miss your updates, but I will remain expectant for the next phase to come into being. Keep changing the world.
Been a fan of what you guys are trying to do since 2022 when I first started playing. Since I bagged it, the inner core has been my go to putter, both for putting and throwing. It is easily the most thrown disk in my bag. And now, I find out they’re going to be made in the US? Just when I thought things couldn’t get better. I was already pulling hard on that lever, but it sounds like it’s time to double down.
Plastic injection is such fun! Although also a crazy beast! Congratulations to Jesse and the entirety of trash panda! 🎉 excited to get to see what’s next!
Very excited for you! I'm a process technician. I commented on a lot of your early videos. Have you hired someone(s) with injection molding experience or are you gonna try to work it out and learn yourself? If only you were based in PA. PS: I haven't heard much good about Haitians 😬 But it looks new enough to be decent.
@@TrashPandaDiscGolf I'm very excited for you! I find injection molding very interesting and challenging. Be safe! I actually wish I could help you through this. If you seek training, RJG is the foremost training company for injection molding. They have some online courses as well as facilities you can travel to for training and certifications but they're a few thousand dollars. Their certs are highly respected industry wide. I myself have Master Molder 1 certification. I also have experience with online training videos/courses from Paulson Training and those are good.
I understand your thoughts on taking time to learn the new equipment. I think the posting more then ever on patreon is not the way to go. You need to look at the “free” mediums as advertising. They aren’t free. Think of them as a cost (time) invested by your company. I purchased the Trash Panda discs that I have because even more so than in the goal of a sustainable sport, I saw your passion for this goal and wanted to support “you”. Without the videos I have a feeling that there will be a lot of people (disc buying customers) that will be less emotionally invested in your product. I guess I just wanted to remind you not to think of the UA-cam and socials as something you’re giving people for free but instead as a marketing and advertising business expense. Finally I wanted to point out something: If your goal is to reduce plastic waste, the top patreon perk of a disc every month doesn’t make sense. I just feel that the majority don’t need or will not be throwing them so even recycled/recyclable that actually might be increasing the amount of unused plastic out there. Best of luck to the future of Trash Panda
Love everything about this. Dont let haters tell you what is or isnt possible. Definitely dont let drive-by UA-cam commenters tell you what you should or shouldnt do with your YT and Patreon community that YOU built with YOUR content either. LFG Jesse!! 🎉
I don't see the purpose of these videos, content creators are sometimes ignorant on behalf of how much time the viewers spend watching content. So if you a content creator, and you feel it's taking up your resources, the same can be said with viewers, as we have other things going on also
Without valley's there would be no peaks. It is for those with drive and determination who get to the top of the peak and see the view. Keep on fighting the good fight and get to the view.
Weekly videos on Patreon is not ''saying Goodbye''. Best of luck monetizing your content. Legitimately pulling for you, just not a fan of this Patreon exclusivity reveal.
I agree with this comment, 100%. Maybe I’m just spoiled by the free content to be found on youtube - but I don’t like the notion of charging potential customers for product updates.
Yep. I agree 100% with this comment. Going dark and focusing… yet still somehow filming, editing and posting content… only for a select paying audience. Gotcha.
So like, did you not watch the video? Like they are significantly cutting back on the amount of social content they’re making. That’s a lot less effort put into that stuff. On top of that, they already have been doing weekly videos for patrons. It’s a financial obligation that they do so. Plus, these video are a lot lower production quality than main channel releases. Less time to edit and film. I swear, online disc golf has to be one of the most entitled communities.
They currently make 2x as many videos with both paid and free videos. They’re now, for a few months, cutting out the free videos to take the time to learn something new. That isn’t moving free videos behind a paywall, it’s leaving the existing videos they’ve been doing behind a paywall and stopping the free content monetarily. The content posted to Patreon is much less scripted and more behind the scenes talks and sneak peeks, and therefore probably requires less editing and time for uploading
@@RettHill You're right, TP can and SHOULD do as they please or see fit for their business. I'm personally expressing a little disappointment, call it entitlement if you want. Here's some context: Jesse's approach to growing his business heavily focuses on his storytelling and he's said as much on LinkedIn. He literally calls TP a Story Brand and he's made his fan base a part of it from the very beginning, making sure to be open, transparent and inclusive. TP's story is truly exploding on the dg scene, especially now as they are finally getting into proper manufacturing. Acquiring injection molding technology is an inflection point in the story, a MASSIVE plot twist which will significantly impact the future of disc golf if they are successful. Having the door shut at this exact moment can feel like having a few chapters redacted from an amazing book or movie your are currently invested in. Except the story is real life and is the literal setting of a milestone in disc golf history, especially in today's climate crisis. Lots of us are really invested into this story and have been actively following the journey with whatever means we have access to. For some, it's free content on social media. For others, it's through a paid platform like Patreon. It sucks, as a fan, to be sidelined because I can't afford Patreon or have to prioritize other paid subscriptions for my career and personal growth. I'd love to watch this story unfold in real time instead of on Netflix in 15 years.
Very strange way to frame this up. Good luck, but this was most definitely clickbait heavy. It sort of sucks to sub/like/view videos while supporting your come up, and then throwing money your way for merch and discs, only to be gated from future content that’s being already created. This will be it for me.
No the pattern content is different than the UA-cam content. He’s stopping the UA-cam content but not the pattern content. Why is this so hard to understand
MVP has revolutionized disc golf with the overmold technology. Maybe you could get down with that with your discs. Maybe you start by selling them on the idea of using recycled materials to get the best plastic possible for each function. Maybe there is a bubbly plastic that would float in water, or really dense plastic for the overmold rim. Keep expanding the concept. The possibilities are almost endless.
MVP has been around for a long time. James Conrad hitting the shot and signing Simon has revolutionized their brand, not overmold technology. Lots of brands have overmold and it doesn't matter; MVP turned it into trade dress, which was a brilliant move.
@@trev3971 You missed out on the scientific proof that overmold allows for longer rotation then... in other words... you're wrong. It is NOT just "trade dress" as you put it.
@@lokinakor1 That would explain the explosive popularity of the XT Nova over the past 11 years. Oh, wait. Yes, if you're Eagle McMahon, you may gain an extra 30' on a 600' drive. The vast majority of players can't take advantage of the liminal flight gains offered by overmold, but they can identify an MVP/Axiom disc from 100' away.
@@trev3971 I'm not so sure you are right about that. The vast majority of competitors are putting halos around their discs to mimic the look of overmold, so novelty does bring in business, no different from any other business. You are also lying by omission by leaving out the stability benefits from this tech, not just distance. We're done here.
@@lokinakor1 There might be stability benefits if the Neutron rims didn't beat in so fast. They're practically DX. I like the Hokom Craves but they barely last six months.
Hey everyone, Jesse here. I think I missed the mark on explaining something in the video so I wanted to clear it up here. This is the biggest step we've ever taken and we need to give it everything we've got. But we are not putting our content behind a paywall. For years now, we've been posting free content on UA-cam and IG / FB; along with exclusive content on Patreon - all of which takes a ton of time, energy, and resources. So for a temporary period, we're simply putting a pause on our free content while keeping our Patreon going as it has been. My goal with this video was to invite you to come along for the journey, but if you’re not able to, I COMPLETELY understand. We'll see you soon and we'll absolutely share what we learn during this period! 🤘🏻 J.
I don't feel like you missed the mark at all! Makes total sense, but thanks for elaborating for anyone who might've misunderstood!
I'm not familiar with your Patreon content, so as a casual YT follower hearing "we're stopping 'free' content, but posting more than ever on Patreon!" seems... confusing at best. But, if your Patreon content is cell phone updates and things like that - then great, I think that makes sense. Maybe that is the disconnect. Anyways, congrats on the equipment, and I'm sure I'll watch your YT vids again when they resume.
All of your videos are pretty much ads for your products. I’m not paying to watch your videos. Maybe some other sucker would buy that BS, but I’m not stupid.
Not hating but it’s a paywall.
I do genuinely hope you succeed at what you're trying to do, but I'm hopeful that you understand why your announcement has left a bad taste in our mouths. It's not that your content is all moving behind a paywall temporarily, which we could easily understand, but that you're not willing to admit that it is. It seems dishonest to frame this as "going dark".
Really enjoy your videos and the effort that goes into them, and love your mission. It's a crucial one, no doubt about it.
But this "going dark" thing isn't the move. Trash Panda and its cause needs all the attention and exposure it can get. The time and effort spent creating these great videos is the cost of making people notice, follow and become engaged. Telling a story while also selling people on an idea. I'd never even thought of recycled discs until I found your channel, and now I follow the journey closely.
"Free content" is a relative term here since your viewers buy your discs, watch ads and spend their time watching and engaging. It feels bad being left in the dark when we know you could post the occasional short update, since you're doing it elsewhere.
I really hope you can hype people up again in 2-3 months or however long this work will take. Anyways, I sincerely wish you good luck with the new machine!
Funny how i just watched the video you featured. Now i see this. Good Luck and let the haters hate. None of them are on the end of that lever.
I sincerely hope this works out for you. At the same time, I can't help but think keeping people in the dark while you are making your biggest steps forward might be counter-productive. I was one of those folks who was clicking refresh the day the Inner Core was launched because I believed in what you were doing. The only reason I was that committed was because I was able to be invested in your progress and vision.
I know you said explicitly this wasn't a case where you were saying you were going dark and then would post again in a week or two, but I hope you will reconsider... especially considering you will already have content available for your patreon folks.
This is so epic!!! So cool to watch this journey unfold! Can’t wait for the day of Trashpanda sponsored players - pushing what is possible in the sport!
Erika Stinchcomb is their first sponsored pro
I believe in Trash Panda and their mission! Y'all got this, you guys are making a difference and terraforming the landscape of the sport and what's possible in the name of sustainability! Keep believing in yourselves!
I applaud the effort over the years and the successful products. I understand the business decision here. But even if you "go dark" I hope you still have a plan to document the development and learning process even if you can't share it until many months from now. I was drawn to this channel by a guy trying to make something from nothing out of his garage. The successes, failures, and learning moments were your best content. If content has to be delayed no worries. But it would be a huge missed opportunity to not capture that learning process in the coming months and share it freely down the road. The journey is just as valuable to us as the destination. Even if its delayed don't hide the journey.
@jasonrleevideo thank you for this comment! I wish I had articulated better that this was always the plan. So the journey will not be hidden - you've got yourself a deal 🤝 -Jesse
Excited to see y'all again when the lights come back on!
We’re going dark… but not really going dark. Just going dark for the people who don’t pay us directly to watch videos and completely abandoning the very aspect that gained you followers to begin with.
Hope it works out for you guys
I work in plastic injection molding for (Mostly) RVs. That being said I love the process, learning about problems and solutions, the ways different plastics work (never knew you had to dry certain plastics until 4 years ago). Now with all of that love for this industry that i have, the main thing that upsets me is the the one way ticket that is plastics. Raw material to product, product to consumer, consumer to landfill. and the amount of waste is astronomical just from the plant. So I dont see just a guy working for a simple dream to make recycled discs. I see a dedicated man making the first stepping stone for the whole industry. First recycle a disc, then the world. Youve proven it is possible, and i am happy to be both a patron and to help hang on that lever for years to come. You are a true inspiration.
Good luck to your nocturnal era! Keep up the great work!👍🏻
Keep fighting the good fight! Be well, and always, take good care.
Go Jesse, and the team! I'm super excited for you and the next chapter in your story. I'm not sure I can afford the Patreon, but I'm still rooting for you. All the best! Looking to see what you can do with your new toy.
"Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the [disc golf] world." -Archimedes
Good luck! I've enjoyed following your content on UA-cam.
I'm "on the lever" by buying the product. I don't want to pay for product updates though. It's a shame, I like seeing this story unfold on UA-cam. Good luck Jessie and all the rest.
"This isnt clickbait. It isnt a goodbye and next week post another video"
"....except to Patreon"
LETS GOOOOO!!!
I’m on the lever with you guys!
Inspiring stuff, so eager to see what's on the other side for Trash Panda!
Beyond thrilled for you and the future of Trash Panda Jesse!! You have a small little Jo on that lever with you- proud to call you a bud 🫶
This is a very interesting video… If there’s any confusion on Trash Panda’s end as a company regarding why this doesn’t sit well with most consumers: I think the problem with the whole thing is that the *choice* of “going nocturnal” genuinely seems pointless. It doesn’t make logical sense. In my mind and as an average disc golfer, Trash Panda doesn’t post on UA-cam very often in the first place. There is an occasional video updating us on random different stuff. So coming from the consumer perspective, I feel like I’m hearing “Okay so *we won’t be able to* make any of our normal free content because we need to focus ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF OUR EFFORTS on figuring out this injection molding machine thing, but if you want to support our patreon we’ll STILL be posting on there WEEKLY AND MORE THAN EVER BEFORE as if nothing ever happened to distract our time, energy, and talent elsewhere in the first place.” *There is obviously still time, energy, and focus being given to those who are paying for it.* So in reality, the burden of creating content isn’t really changing at all. You’re redirecting whatever little effort that was coming to UA-cam, all over to patreon behind a paywall. TP as a company is choosing to do that. My problem is that it doesn’t take THAT much effort to make one video a month updating the world for free, while still doing your normal paid patreon content. We can understand saying “overall social media interaction is going to be reduced.” We don’t understand “free content is pausing temporarily, paid content is increasing - because we need to focus.” I hope that is being made loud and clear, and TP learns from this. Genuinely not trying to be a hater. I’ve enjoyed following Trash Panda for the last couple of years, but this channel can come across as over-dramatic when it hyper focuses on different developments like this. The significance feels exaggerated to the average person. Obviously this has never been done before in terms of recycled discs. We get it. But if so many other disc manufacturers have figured out injection molding, there’s no reason TP can’t.
@cliffphotographs your comment is extremely well spoken and doesn't read like a "hater" at all. You and many others were left feeling this way from the video and for that I am truly sorry.
If I could go back and offer more insight into the logistics involved in creating public content versus patreon content - which is designed to be more raw, lower lift, bts style - I absolutely would.
As always, hindsight is 20/20 and I greatly appreciate your thoughtful comment for helping me understand and learn from this video.
-Jesse
@@TrashPandaDiscGolf Regardless of this video/decision, I’m still hyped to see what y’all make in the future. Obviously you guys are in some uncharted territory when compared to the rest of the disc golf industry, but absolutely love the innovation that you guys are implementing and putting on display for the rest of the industry to acknowledge and respect. Can’t wait to have a bag full of your repurposed, recycled flyers 🤙🏻
Keep going team Trash Panda! Super proud of you all.
Very Very cool. Thanks to curiosity and initiative (and your garage for the start). Bravo.
Jesse you showed great courage and vulnerability and I love it! I love what you and your team are building with sustainable discs! I’m excited for you and your team!
Congratulations Jesse and team!! This is awesome!!
Would have preferred to hear about this a few months out and given an opportunity to contribute to TP's success by signing up to Patreon.
Instead, it makes it sound like they spent a bunch of money and need to herd their fanbase behind a paywall to make up for it.
I value honesty over the inspirational storytelling. This was clickbait with a sad plot twist.
Exactly. Sad.
the head of experience with a green flannel, Green Day shirt, green hair, green eyes, greenish tattoos, in a green room was delightful.
finally, the Trash Panda Particle Accelerator
Nothing says going dark and working hard. Like saying you will post even more, a place where people pay monthly to watch it 😅
My thoughts exactly 😂
You got this brother. You are making disc golf and the world a better place. Keep doing you and can't wait to see what the future holds. You are awesome and an inspiration.
This made me feel so great!! So happy for y'all at trash panda this is amazing!!!
Congratulations. This is a huge step forward. Make it happen!
How cool is that! Congrats on the hard work and betting on yourself.
Congrats on Jesse and the team at Trash Panda for taking these bold new steps! Best of luck to you this year!
That lever's getting longer and longer by the day - keep pushing, you're doing great work!
Keep it pushin" &/or pullin' Y'all! We are all here for the long haul!
Right on! Super stoked for you all! I have been here from the get go, but just joined patreon today!
Had to peek the patreon prices and was surprised with the pricing to be a tester. Appreciate not asking for an arm and a leg, will consider.
right on guys. i am stoked for this new adventure!
Congrats Jesse! Best of luck to you
Congratulations on your FiRST injection machine!!! Stoked to see your success in the sport!! Keep up the great work and best of luck on the next chapter!!!!
For every person saying “you can’t do it” I hope there are five saying you can. Love the mission, love the discs, love the commitment. See you in 2-3 months!
Best of luck, you have all of our best wishes!
there's no need to be hesitant to show your emotions. you're doing amazing stuff and that should make you feel something.
It was the next logical step man! Grats, and I can't wait to see you all succeed even more!
What a cool adventure for you! Excited for all of you.
Clear some room on that lever arm Jesse. Ive been meaning to do this for way too long. I've been watching since somewhere in the first 10 to 20 videos but have never taken the plunge. I'm so excited for you and trash panda as a whole!
Goodbye and good luck!
So happy for y’all, keep up the great work.
Hope to see yall in the future.
Have enjoyed your journey on youtube. Gratz on getting the injection machine
So cool man. I know it’s going to work out awesome. Prayers for you and your team. I will certainly be buying your new fairway driver when it comes out. This time I won’t be getting it in snow white though. 😂
I am stoked for this next big chapter!!
This is crazy good 🤯
Best of luck, Jesse! That's a nice looking machine.
Can't wait to see what the future holds
So excited to see the future you guys have
Also love the Knee Deep hoodie
For those saying it can't be done. There is even more believing in you. The growth you guys have seen in the last two years has been exponential. I could not be happier to be a part of this community.
With a lever arm long enough you can change the world should be written on the walls of your office ❤
Maybe use the actual quote from Archimedes, not this butchered version.
The day I become a pro disc golfer, I will be sponsored by Trash Panda. I hope! You guys are going to change the world one disc at a time. This will be the first patreon I will be joining
we love u jesse, keep it up!
I know the feeling of getting new machine. Coming from a CNC lathe and milling background it was super exciting when we moved into a bigger shop. And we went BIG!!! From a 16k sq ft shop to 100k sq ft(80K shop floor). Seeing those new machines coming in was super exciting.
I hope the new disc gets a short video announcement here, not just on Patreon... It's the only way I'll hear that it's available. I'm pulling for you, but i'm only good for monetizing a company once, by buying the product. 😊
Couldn't be more proud of you guys!
Bad move. You didn’t have to remind me I was in coach. (The cheap seats. I own seven of your discs. 4 markers. I put your sticker on my motorhome, and my Facebook feed for years. I don’t need extra Contant. I don’t even need contact every month. I’m in support of the concept. I still hope you figure it out. Tom recently put a thank you on my motorhome in Scottsdale. I appreciated that. But Tom, this seems a little off.
Hey there! Was super stoked to see you repping us out in Scottsdale.
Really appreciate your support, and the reaction is totally understandable. I do think it’s worth mentioning that behind the scenes, getting the new machine is a MASSIVE undertaking that is hard to express over the course of a video.
More than anyone, I’m stoked for when we come back and are able to once again dedicate the resources needed to put out quality content on UA-cam and other socials in addition to the existing patreon updates 🤘
@@tomtheplace7066
Thanks again for now the second nice note. I did appreciate it and tell all my card mates as we played by my rig. Don’t worry, I think I got all that you’re saying. As even a follower of paten pending, (I even love podcast like Freakonomics in planet money while I’m driving around the country) It brought two of my loves together. And Jessie could have a future in broadcasting. Such a great storyteller. I am pulling for you guys. I hope you do figure it out because I think other industries that deal in plastics might be able to duplicate what you guys are doing. I know you may want to encourage your Patreon channel. But remember, I and the others that were turned off feel like we are members. We saw a different vibe then you’re seeing. I have no problem not receiving content from you until you have content for me. I’ll be here. See ya soon.
I am through the roof right now for you guys and gals this is epic!!!
Holy confusion, Batman. I just watched this in late April of 2024 because it came up as a UA-cam notification, I thought it was a just-now-upload, so I watched it, yes saw the note at the beginning about it being recorded Jan. 4th, but I thought it was like a look-back and now record thing.
But then I see the machine, think, “Hm, that’s familiar,” recall recent videos from the channel, video ends, I check the date, and world’s biggest facepalm…this was posted in January. 🤦🏼♂️😂😂
We are so proud of you! Yay TrashPanda!
It's working!
So to sum it up: You are moving away from your partnership will a local injection business to fully funtion on your own. And that requires you to own your own injection machine, that you have now received, and will take some time for you and your staff to learn to use it without external assistance?
Happy for your companies growth. It will really help our planet.
You rock. I totally yelled "YES !" when you said "NO!". I've got personal experience with the "experts" saying something was impossible. For them. But it was possible ! I wish you mega-success and luck. And thinking big picture here.....if we can make discs from 100% recycled plastic, couldn't we make ANYTHING ???? Plastic is great, but it's also terrible. Perhaps once you learn you'll become the EXPERTS and can go teach other companies how to make their plastic products from 100% recycled plastic. Oh, your team rocks too !
That machine looks awesome!
Please name that thing the “Trash Can” because it “CAN” change “TRASH”.
I’ll also accept meal ticket or dinner table. 😂
So excited for this next step. I’m on the lever as much as I can afford which is buying your products for now. Can’t wait til the next one releases off this machine. I’ll miss your updates, but I will remain expectant for the next phase to come into being. Keep changing the world.
Congrats!! 🎉
Been a fan of what you guys are trying to do since 2022 when I first started playing. Since I bagged it, the inner core has been my go to putter, both for putting and throwing. It is easily the most thrown disk in my bag. And now, I find out they’re going to be made in the US? Just when I thought things couldn’t get better. I was already pulling hard on that lever, but it sounds like it’s time to double down.
2nd time watching this and it's still tugging on the heart strings. ❤
Time to become a patron. Where you spend your money, matters.
Thank you @liamsire 🙏
Bro openly exposed himself as a grifter with an overly dramatic “goodbye” video 😂
Good luck! I imagine you'll post here when you release another disc, so I'll see you then
Plastic injection is such fun! Although also a crazy beast! Congratulations to Jesse and the entirety of trash panda! 🎉 excited to get to see what’s next!
Very excited for you! I'm a process technician. I commented on a lot of your early videos. Have you hired someone(s) with injection molding experience or are you gonna try to work it out and learn yourself? If only you were based in PA.
PS: I haven't heard much good about Haitians 😬 But it looks new enough to be decent.
Kyle and I are going to take on the challenge at first, and then likely hire someone down the road! Thanks for the kind words and support. -Jesse
@@TrashPandaDiscGolf I'm very excited for you! I find injection molding very interesting and challenging. Be safe! I actually wish I could help you through this. If you seek training, RJG is the foremost training company for injection molding. They have some online courses as well as facilities you can travel to for training and certifications but they're a few thousand dollars. Their certs are highly respected industry wide. I myself have Master Molder 1 certification. I also have experience with online training videos/courses from Paulson Training and those are good.
F's in the chat for TP going dark
Can’t wait to see what you do
I understand your thoughts on taking time to learn the new equipment. I think the posting more then ever on patreon is not the way to go. You need to look at the “free” mediums as advertising. They aren’t free. Think of them as a cost (time) invested by your company. I purchased the Trash Panda discs that I have because even more so than in the goal of a sustainable sport, I saw your passion for this goal and wanted to support “you”. Without the videos I have a feeling that there will be a lot of people (disc buying customers) that will be less emotionally invested in your product. I guess I just wanted to remind you not to think of the UA-cam and socials as something you’re giving people for free but instead as a marketing and advertising business expense. Finally I wanted to point out something: If your goal is to reduce plastic waste, the top patreon perk of a disc every month doesn’t make sense. I just feel that the majority don’t need or will not be throwing them so even recycled/recyclable that actually might be increasing the amount of unused plastic out there. Best of luck to the future of Trash Panda
you got this!
This is so cool Jesse!❤
As soon as one of my local shops stocks them, I'm planning to buy all 3 discs
Love everything about this. Dont let haters tell you what is or isnt possible. Definitely dont let drive-by UA-cam commenters tell you what you should or shouldnt do with your YT and Patreon community that YOU built with YOUR content either.
LFG Jesse!! 🎉
Let's Glow!
I don't see the purpose of these videos, content creators are sometimes ignorant on behalf of how much time the viewers spend watching content.
So if you a content creator, and you feel it's taking up your resources, the same can be said with viewers, as we have other things going on also
"Greed is a real thing"
Without valley's there would be no peaks. It is for those with drive and determination who get to the top of the peak and see the view. Keep on fighting the good fight and get to the view.
Weekly videos on Patreon is not ''saying Goodbye''. Best of luck monetizing your content. Legitimately pulling for you, just not a fan of this Patreon exclusivity reveal.
I agree with this comment, 100%. Maybe I’m just spoiled by the free content to be found on youtube - but I don’t like the notion of charging potential customers for product updates.
Yep. I agree 100% with this comment.
Going dark and focusing… yet still somehow filming, editing and posting content… only for a select paying audience. Gotcha.
So like, did you not watch the video? Like they are significantly cutting back on the amount of social content they’re making. That’s a lot less effort put into that stuff. On top of that, they already have been doing weekly videos for patrons. It’s a financial obligation that they do so. Plus, these video are a lot lower production quality than main channel releases. Less time to edit and film.
I swear, online disc golf has to be one of the most entitled communities.
They currently make 2x as many videos with both paid and free videos. They’re now, for a few months, cutting out the free videos to take the time to learn something new. That isn’t moving free videos behind a paywall, it’s leaving the existing videos they’ve been doing behind a paywall and stopping the free content monetarily. The content posted to Patreon is much less scripted and more behind the scenes talks and sneak peeks, and therefore probably requires less editing and time for uploading
@@RettHill You're right, TP can and SHOULD do as they please or see fit for their business. I'm personally expressing a little disappointment, call it entitlement if you want. Here's some context:
Jesse's approach to growing his business heavily focuses on his storytelling and he's said as much on LinkedIn. He literally calls TP a Story Brand and he's made his fan base a part of it from the very beginning, making sure to be open, transparent and inclusive. TP's story is truly exploding on the dg scene, especially now as they are finally getting into proper manufacturing. Acquiring injection molding technology is an inflection point in the story, a MASSIVE plot twist which will significantly impact the future of disc golf if they are successful. Having the door shut at this exact moment can feel like having a few chapters redacted from an amazing book or movie your are currently invested in. Except the story is real life and is the literal setting of a milestone in disc golf history, especially in today's climate crisis.
Lots of us are really invested into this story and have been actively following the journey with whatever means we have access to. For some, it's free content on social media. For others, it's through a paid platform like Patreon. It sucks, as a fan, to be sidelined because I can't afford Patreon or have to prioritize other paid subscriptions for my career and personal growth. I'd love to watch this story unfold in real time instead of on Netflix in 15 years.
Very strange way to frame this up. Good luck, but this was most definitely clickbait heavy. It sort of sucks to sub/like/view videos while supporting your come up, and then throwing money your way for merch and discs, only to be gated from future content that’s being already created. This will be it for me.
No the pattern content is different than the UA-cam content. He’s stopping the UA-cam content but not the pattern content. Why is this so hard to understand
This company is gonna be one of the biggest in the game.
throwing inner cores for life. idc how good other discs are. i will always throw the inner core
I feel this too... But I'm biased 😂 -Jesse
TLDR: same content we used to post for free will now be behind a paywall...
Gotta pay for that machine! 😂
MVP has revolutionized disc golf with the overmold technology. Maybe you could get down with that with your discs.
Maybe you start by selling them on the idea of using recycled materials to get the best plastic possible for each function.
Maybe there is a bubbly plastic that would float in water, or really dense plastic for the overmold rim. Keep expanding the concept. The possibilities are almost endless.
MVP has been around for a long time. James Conrad hitting the shot and signing Simon has revolutionized their brand, not overmold technology. Lots of brands have overmold and it doesn't matter; MVP turned it into trade dress, which was a brilliant move.
@@trev3971 You missed out on the scientific proof that overmold allows for longer rotation then... in other words... you're wrong. It is NOT just "trade dress" as you put it.
@@lokinakor1 That would explain the explosive popularity of the XT Nova over the past 11 years. Oh, wait.
Yes, if you're Eagle McMahon, you may gain an extra 30' on a 600' drive. The vast majority of players can't take advantage of the liminal flight gains offered by overmold, but they can identify an MVP/Axiom disc from 100' away.
@@trev3971 I'm not so sure you are right about that. The vast majority of competitors are putting halos around their discs to mimic the look of overmold, so novelty does bring in business, no different from any other business. You are also lying by omission by leaving out the stability benefits from this tech, not just distance. We're done here.
@@lokinakor1 There might be stability benefits if the Neutron rims didn't beat in so fast. They're practically DX. I like the Hokom Craves but they barely last six months.
Bro is a salesman for sure, lol.
Yes, also isn't he a pastor or something?
@@abpdga he definitely does not give that vibe
Oh no 30K channel is taking a break.
WHERE'S THE HUMANITY
They're not taking a break. They're just charging for the videos.
Archemedes baby!
Respect 🙏