Hey man could you make a how to make a network config tutorial? At least that is more general since i know that probably it depends on the router you have.
Bruh that laptop is legit newer than my personal use laptop. But my pc tho.... Celeron e-1500 with a radoeon hd 6450 and linux. And a hard drive. Oh god im getting ptsd
Oh right, also, source games run AWFUL in old hardware (on linux) mesa drivers just suck so your best bet would had been to use win7 instead lol. Dx8 > openGL
that audio skipping is incredibly nostalgic. that's exactly the experience I remember from installing TF2 like five days after it went free to play and I tried to play it on my 32 bit windows Xp machine that had a tiny saphire video card
managed to play tf2 on a single core celeron on 256mb ddr1 ram and a geforce 6600 with those crazy super low quality cfgs, which doesnt works anymore becasue most cvar are locked
After 7 years of playing TF2 on a laptop, I recently bought my first PC. Instead of struggling to reach 40 frames with bots, I now get upwards of 200-300 FPS on a full server of players. I've had a blast and will never look back.
@@problemtf2532 Back in ye olden days of 2011 when fuck all was multithreaded, yeah, it helped, but at 800-1300 MHz, all I could accomplish was having a web browser open as well or OBS using the shittiest x264 encoder known to man.
This feels kinda nostalgic. I'm pretty sure that I'm a pyro "main" nowadays because my Packard Bell laptop forced me to play WM1 back in the day. Good times.
My first laptop was an HP Pavilion from 2010, and it ran TF2 with a solid 25 fps at all times without a config. Many an hour spend playing on lowest settings on nucleus, good times.
My first PC, a Lenovo laptop, would overheat after 5 minutes of game play and crash. I just dealt with it and had fun for the little time I could haha.
I had an abomination of a laptop A HP PAVILION G4 with 2 gb ram, intelligent core 2 duo and 100 gb storage I still remember that I used to play assasins creed 1 on the laptop in 2016, and it would overheat and shut down to save itself from making the popular 8k meme XD
i havent tried it, but im convinced my thinkpad x200 with a core 2 duo from 2008 could run this game better the fact that it's unplayable, even with a moderately lightweight linux setup, is horrible to see
The AMD E2 processor in Aar's laptop is the equivalent to Intel's Atom processors which were already terrible when they were released and only designed for web browsing
Frankly, if the Linux version of TF2 is less optimized than the Windows version and if the Linux graphics drivers weren't as suitable for gaming as the Windows ones (as I assume that a laptop like this comes with its own optimized drivers pre-installed), then perhaps you'd have seen better results with Windows 8 and the official drivers. This is just a guess, though. I have played TF2 on Linux for testing and I can decidedly say that it runs worse than the Windows version on my main rig. I tired it with both the Nouveau as well as proprietary Nvidia drivers.
@@elfasto2255 my actual PC run the game in 30 fps with 1680×1260 but with everthing in low (except the texture and models) But idk why when i put a config in low i have the same fps
it's a good point to mention that when you were playing the game on that craptop, you were probably playing a TF2 that had less particle effects and weapons, meaning the game didn't have to load as much stuff, so that might be why you were able to somewhat play the game
I remember playing tf2 on a levono thinkpad with a 1.8ghz processor, 4gb of ram, and a intel 4000 integrated graphics card (which had 128mb of vram). The agony.
This brings back memories, the first pc I got into playing this game on was a Core 2 Duo Optiplex back in early 2014ish. It is also part of what pushed me to build a PC around that time with a comparatively godlike GTX 650. Good memories.
Seeing that laptop brings back some memories. I started playing TF2 with The Orange Box on PS3 pure vanilla, then found out it had years of updates, weapons, hats, and was FREE on PC and got so jealous. This was the same laptop I had when I started my "real" TF2 journey. I remember it running not exactly well, but better than this. Maybe I had a slightly more powerful version of this model, or years of extra particle effects on cosmetics just made TF2 run this way.
Brings back memories of trying to play TF2 on my Acer Aspire X3200 from 2008, with a Phenom II X3 and Nvidia 8200 graphics. I upgraded it with a Gt 320 that overheated so much I had to play with the side panel off, but at least the game was playable.
My first experience was playing on an old Dell laptop with Windows 7. It took like an entire day to install, and half an hour to finally get into a game - kong king, where I played engineer and built a sentry outside of spawn at around 2-4 fps. Ended up getting a newer secondhand laptop a few months after that and finally running tf2 at 40-50 fps with comanglia's cfg. Now I've got a pc :)
I also got a notebook with near-identical specs back in 2012 as a Christmas gift, and I think lots of the lag in the video is definitely from the updates to the game in the past 9 years. I used to be able to play TF2 as pyro on dustbowl on an HP Compaq running Windows XP in 2012, but I highly doubt that the game would even be able to boot on its 1 gigabyte of ram today. On notebooks the game ran okay-ish in 2012, but with every major update you would actively watch the framerate somehow get lower and lower on the same trade maps that the less fortunate had been restricted to due to their hardware. The killing blow for me was Gun Mettle, as when that update dropped I remember TF2 being *COMPLETELY* unplayable on suijin and the other new maps, and it didn't help that the newly-added texture streaming destroyed the last semblance of clarity from the textures for everyone on bad hardware. The game was so unmanageable on a notebook by that point that I ended up building a PC inside a cardboard box with money that I scrapped up over the remainder of summer 2015 just to play the game again.
I can't believe I used to play Call of Duty WaW in the exact same craptop, then used for college work (it worked fast for that) and then I killed it when I opened it to clean it. Damn, those HP sucked
0:29 That's true. For example I play with amd ryzen 5 3550h, nvidia gtx 1650, 16 gb ram and when I'm on offline server with bots I have like 150 fps in spawn, when I look in the floor I have around 200, when I'm on empty server (no bots, no real players) I have around 250-300 fps, but when I'm on server with bots during gunfight I have around 80 fps. On actual servers with real players I have around 50-100 fps whether I'm in spawn or gunfight. It just pisses me off that I can run css 200-500 fps (actually max I can is 750 fps, but that's on empty server while I'm watching floor) and in csgo 200-250 fps on 64 tick servers and around 130 fps on 128 tick servers. Especially csgo, game looks harder to run while in fact it's actually easier (ofcourse it makes sense cuz it's one of the most competitive games and it gets constant updates so that it can be optimized on any hardware as much as it can). Valve should take more care about tf2, but as far as I see chances that will happen are really low, possibly never.
i first played tf2 about a year ago on my parents computer that i kid you not used to run windows 7 and my parents don't remember when they got it. now it "runs" on windows 10.
i have a horrendous pc and i get 10-20 fps at the most, i sometimes get spikes uptil 60 fps but it goes down instantly all his gameplay is basically me trying to play
L M F A O, this is such a stupidly relatable experience! When I first started playing TF2, I ALSO used an old HP laptop. In fact, the very first few times I played TF2, I didn’t even use a mouse! I used the stupid damn mouse pad to aim! LMAO wonderful video man!
I always experience this, my problem is with the shitty tiny updates that add tiny event contents that take over 9GB of my memory, it just makes it worse
It works worse than my laptop, and here I was thinking mine was the worst! Though it works better than mine when you changed the network settings... How did you do that give me that intel
I used an HP Envy tower that my father purchased from Costco. It was Win 8 and it ran an old i5 2nd Gen and a 500GB hard drive. It ran at maybe 30 fps, but it was my everything. I saved all my christmas and summer savings and bought a GTX 760 and a PSU, and followed the build guide on LTT. It was a different machine after that.
I remember first playing TF2 on a prototype Sony Vaio FW Laptop from 2008. I'll never forget the good times I had on that heavy heap of overheating metal.
sounds like the cpu was the issue, as well as possibly only 4 gigs of ram (tf2 eats more ram than you think) at best, an upgrade from the E-300 to a E-450 to add 350 mhz, and adding another 2-4 gigs of ram could've helped... but you'd be better off just getting a different pc at that point if the upgradability is poor. great video!
as someone who unironically plays with a 2012 dell laptop, I can say that it isnt as bad as you think, it takes some time to get used to 20 to 12 fps but once you learn the stutter pattern, you can manage it. although I really cant wait to get a better machine.
I used to play like this on our family pc :/ I mean I still suffering from the low fps, but thanks to mastercoms it slightly helped my gaming experience.
I also had an HP pavilion 2000 (but I had an Intel Dual Core, not AMD), and I absolutely remember it didn't run this bad. It was the updates, specifically the meet your match update, that tanked the framerate on older machines. Like with my current AMD FX 6300 build, that used to run TF2 at above 60 in combat most of the time. But after the Jungle Inferno update, I have to make the game look as bad as in this video to make it barely even reach 60.
TBH what surprised me the most about this video is how your laptop running a mobile CPU (a pretty good one tho) was extremely close to reaching your main PC's performance while using the same settings.
I used to play tf2 on a intel core i5 (the very first one) and a AMD hd graphics 2450 (numbers might be wrong) with 4gb of ram and this laptop basically had the same issues besides having 11fps
I started with a Celeron that had something like an Intel Q43 Express graphics chipset and started playing TF2 with an average of 12-15FPS. I got so decent at that that when I finally upgraded to a HD 5450 and got a whopping 36FPS it actually made me WORSE somehow.
As someone who used a shitty pc to play tf till december last year, the extreme stuttering began when jungle inferno released, before that It was pretty playable for me, well most of the time, but after that I had to stay in turbine to have a fighting chance.
Watching this a year in the future, I always love remembering my old laptop, some old hp computer that I know was most likely just a little better than most chromebooks. My old laptop may have had a better cpu but it used intel hd graphics, no graphics card at all. Luckily modding saved me. This video is great.
My buddy still plays on a Thinkpad laptop The battery doesn't work so he has to keep it plugged in and it has some random mismatched memory upgrades to give it all the help we can
Can't believe your game didn't crashed. My computer close TF2 when I'm about to join a second server, sometimes even in the first server I join. I never knew why that happen, sometimes a window appear saying "textures might be too high" but I have every thing at the lowest possible quality
I started playing tf2 in 2015 on a very busted laptop from like 2007-2008 that I ruined by dropping it and actually trying to install a free version of minecraft.
That is pretty similar to my experience playing TF2 but a little worse. I have EVERYTHING as low as it possibly can, and still get usually around 10-15 fps.
My god, this video reminds me of when back in 2016, I used to play Payday 2 on a shitty notebook at stable *10 FPS.* That includes playing on lowest settings(which also includes inaccessible settings in a menu which had to be changed via equivalent to the config files. My game looked like clay.) AND using mods to increase performance via removal of particle effects and such.
I play tf2 daily on a 10 year old Lenovo Thinkpad t420s which has an Intel i5 2520m which is a dual core, 4 thread 2.5ghz processor. playing the game with the same medium low config and at 720p resolution gets me in the range of 30-60 fps depending on how much shit is happening on the screen at any given moment
When I first started playing on the 80's tower my dad had with the 80kb net speed. I exclusively played engineer from the simple idea "if I can't aim and shoot people in real time, then I'll build something that can"
I played on my old laptop and had like 25-30 fps, but it was with bots and also it loaded for like 5-7 minutes. Multiplayer was unplayable though (and by that I mean 1-2 fps)
AND SOMEHOW FALLOUT 4 ONE OF THE LEAST OPTIMIZED GAMES OF ALL TIME CAN RUN 200 MODS SOME WITH HIGH POLYGON COUNTS, SOME THAT OPTIMIZE EVERYTHING CAN RUN AT 30-40 FPS. Edit: 300 Mods, all DLC, at 720p
This sounds so similar to the PC I had to play TF2 on in 2013-14 - a dell workstation with an E5400 intel core 2 duo, 3gb of ram and a 256 MB nvidia quadro fx 3450 which also motivated me to build my own computer once I had enough money for one in 2015.
I never thought that a computer worse than my Late 2015 mac existed but here we are, had to play on all low settings and even installing the low mastercomfig mod *made it's frames drop even worse* It runs just about the same gameplay in this video only that its just barely more playable
did you expected a laptob to run well after collecting dust for 4 years? you are supposed to clean it up and see if the fan is working before you start using it
@@supportsciencistgaming4761 you take it apart the and use an air blower if you don't opened up a laptop before don't do it take it to a professional to do it if you really want to clean it
@@Aarmastah well if it's that bad why not use it's parts for something good you it will be useful as a tray or you can take the screen and turn it into a big light that looks like a window
Oh man, I didn't know you recorded my current day laptop :D I have a refurbished 2012 HP Elitebook 8470p with a Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3320M CPU running @ 2.60GHz with a whooping 8 gbs of D A M N R A M This baby can run Warframe (on 800 x 600, low and get 60 fps when nothing is happening), Borderlands 2 (640 x 400, low pretty swanky consistent frame rate), and Starcraft II (1080 x 644, low, lags alot). But can't run Team Fortress 2 (audio glitching and lag spikes for no reason), League of Legends (lags everytime I get cs), or Roblox (bluescreen). Seeing this video just makes me realize that I haven't played tf2 in a while and I love the game but man, valve's lack of communation just bums me out so much that I kinda get turned off on the idea of playing it. Thanks Aar, we love you!
The audio clipping over itself and stuttering in the beginning of the match brought me all the way back to my own first laptop lmao. Shitty ass gateway laptop with a pentium 2 that I’m now knowing I was way too harsh on considering the setup you were rolling w at the same age 😭😭😭 tf2 ran way better back in the day to be fair, I think besides this I could play smite on the lowest settings at 10fps 😅
Thanks for watching! I'm streaming Mario Kart Wii CTGP on Twitch tonight at 7 PM ET if you're interested!
twitch.tv/aarmastah
Hey man could you make a how to make a network config tutorial? At least that is more general since i know that probably it depends on the router you have.
Bruh that laptop is legit newer than my personal use laptop.
But my pc tho.... Celeron e-1500 with a radoeon hd 6450 and linux. And a hard drive. Oh god im getting ptsd
Oh right, also, source games run AWFUL in old hardware (on linux) mesa drivers just suck so your best bet would had been to use win7 instead lol. Dx8 > openGL
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Setting it to directx 8 means certain things don’t render which make for more frames. Also ram is your biggest bottleneck
that audio skipping is incredibly nostalgic. that's exactly the experience I remember from installing TF2 like five days after it went free to play and I tried to play it on my 32 bit windows Xp machine that had a tiny saphire video card
same, and i still do use the shittop that uses intel igpu, i3 4th mobile version, 768p display. god i hate that pos
Man I still get the audio skipping on my modern pc during the first few seconds
Quite the banger am I right? It was music to my ears.
managed to play tf2 on a single core celeron on 256mb ddr1 ram and a geforce 6600 with those crazy super low quality cfgs, which doesnt works anymore becasue most cvar are locked
I get it every time I start the game. I still have a 5400RPM 1TB WD Purple drive.
After 7 years of playing TF2 on a laptop, I recently bought my first PC. Instead of struggling to reach 40 frames with bots, I now get upwards of 200-300 FPS on a full server of players. I've had a blast and will never look back.
same lol
Same deal but from 20 now it's 160
You probably could go above 300 FPS if you set fps_max 999 (it is 300 by default)
same shit lmao, on my lenovo laptop i had 10-20 fps on community server with 5 players.
literaly same i have this PC like 3 days xd
I'm surprised that the laptop didn't burst into flames while playing TF2
Yes
Unusual Burning Flames Craptop
Mine only blew like 80% of the time
But it runs tf2 on a solid 60
mine went upto 120 degrees celsius while booting up lmfao
been a while since i've seen you!
WORST computer ever made? I literally started recording TF2 gameplay off a laptop just like this. Except I had 4 cores rather than 2 in my APU.
4 cores is a big difference from 2. Its basically a whole new computer
@@problemtf2532 Back in ye olden days of 2011 when fuck all was multithreaded, yeah, it helped, but at 800-1300 MHz, all I could accomplish was having a web browser open as well or OBS using the shittiest x264 encoder known to man.
I think yes because HP Products are a dumpster fire
2 extra cores make a lot of difference
@@beataoo 2 cores made less difference than a single GHz
That looping sound at the beginning when you join a match just brought back so many memories of playing tf2 on my craptop
brings me memories playing tf2 on a Dell Dimension 4600 on 256 mb ram and GeForce FX 5200 which had 128 mb vram, good times
@@nukkonyan TF2 actually ran on that? Was that soon after the game came out?
@@techsavvycat2584 it was about 2010-2012 ish
had about 50-120 fps average
I still get it to this day as I don't have an SSD.
That's me I'm upgrading but when i get my laptop I'll play TF2 one last time on my shit AIO
7:51
That's not actually voice chat, that's the laptop screaming in agony as it struggles to load the game.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
LMAO
This feels kinda nostalgic. I'm pretty sure that I'm a pyro "main" nowadays because my Packard Bell laptop forced me to play WM1 back in the day. Good times.
Hello there.
Same, but with Medic.
nice user sums up google images
@@Duck9K GENERAL KENOBI
Now play TF2 on a Samsung Fridge
This isn’t doom
nah man, play TF2 on McDonald’s kiosk (self ordering machine i think)
@@BreadMaster-rz7ub How will manage that? Hah
You can because fridges uses Android, that someone did source engine on android
He might as well play on a microwave and ban anybody on his server who kill him too much
My first laptop was an HP Pavilion from 2010, and it ran TF2 with a solid 25 fps at all times without a config. Many an hour spend playing on lowest settings on nucleus, good times.
weapon reskins have always seemed like a strange case to me
My first laptop is an HP Pavilion from 2013, TF2 was going 40-70 fps with Medium settings.
2fort is the best running map in the game. Imagine something like enclousre or a halloween map. The thing would fry your bedsheets
surprisingly , orange is maybe the best running map
@@JoseMoreno-fy3bi itemtest
@@grizzle4449 you got me
@@JoseMoreno-fy3bi fuck it background_01
Turbine is pretty good too. Since it is all enclosed there doesn't need to be any extra scenery outside of the map
i can relate to that and sadly after so many years of suffering from this it hasn't changed for me
same... :')
same here, esepcially if you live in a really poor country (like the one im living currently)
Same.
@Scout Someday We'll Get A Good Device
Someday.
@@S3w3rSh4rk0 I hope you guys do, I finally got mine a few weeks ago. From a 950m to a 2060 so I'm very fortunate.
My first PC, a Lenovo laptop, would overheat after 5 minutes of game play and crash. I just dealt with it and had fun for the little time I could haha.
im using a shit one rn like worse than the video but i manage to get 20 mins of little fun
I also have a Lenovo laptop that is trash, maybe we shouldnt buy lenovo products at all
@@honario33 lenovo pumps out cheap and low-end products so lots of people buy them
I had an abomination of a laptop
A HP PAVILION G4
with 2 gb ram, intelligent core 2 duo and 100 gb storage
I still remember that I used to play assasins creed 1 on the laptop in 2016, and it would overheat and shut down to save itself from making the popular 8k meme XD
My Lenovo All-In-One just chugged at 12 FPS with a FUCKING TABLET CHIPSET FROM SNAPDRAGON.
"20 frames per second, which I consider unplayable."
Imagine not growing up poor.
I think he means if you want to make any meaningful power plays
Me every day
This guy has not played Goldeneye 007 on the N64
10:34 , that audio stutter honestly brings back memories playing this game on an optiplex school computer
i havent tried it, but im convinced my thinkpad x200 with a core 2 duo from 2008 could run this game better
the fact that it's unplayable, even with a moderately lightweight linux setup, is horrible to see
Yeah, I have an x61s that could probably run tf2 sorta decently. Of course, thinkpads usually have way better specs than cheapo consumer laptops.
The AMD E2 processor in Aar's laptop is the equivalent to Intel's Atom processors which were already terrible when they were released and only designed for web browsing
@@efftee that explains a lot. Weren't those just souped up pentium iii's?
@@efftee when a processor uses less power than an LED, you know you're in for a good time
Frankly, if the Linux version of TF2 is less optimized than the Windows version and if the Linux graphics drivers weren't as suitable for gaming as the Windows ones (as I assume that a laptop like this comes with its own optimized drivers pre-installed), then perhaps you'd have seen better results with Windows 8 and the official drivers. This is just a guess, though. I have played TF2 on Linux for testing and I can decidedly say that it runs worse than the Windows version on my main rig. I tired it with both the Nouveau as well as proprietary Nvidia drivers.
next time i see an horrifc bad player, i will remember that theres the chance hes playing like this.
As someone who genuinely plays like this lmao thank you
This is exactly how i play today, i am going to cry
same
The funny thing is with horrible craptops is that since there's nowhere to go but up, upgrades are cheap lol
@@average_pyro ever heard of countries with shit economies
same
Those AMD APU's did not age gracefully. They also didn't start out gracefully either.
Used to have a simular laptop back in the day, managed to get it to run around 24fps on low at 1024x600
That’s why I use a config on low, I get 32 frames, it’s the life of a gamer
@@elfasto2255 my actual PC run the game in 30 fps with 1680×1260 but with everthing in low (except the texture and models) But idk why when i put a config in low i have the same fps
@@justdem1490 i get even lower with toshiba satellite lapi 🤧
Still better than my "gaming" laptop
This thumbnail triggers my fight or flight
This gave me flashbacks to my old laptop. I don't know how I put so much time in into TF2 with that thing.
it's a good point to mention that when you were playing the game on that craptop, you were probably playing a TF2 that had less particle effects and weapons, meaning the game didn't have to load as much stuff, so that might be why you were able to somewhat play the game
I now feel much more grateful for my pc, even if I have to play with lower settings to get decent frames :’)
Same.. I mean hey, everyone's start from somewhere
fax. i also have to do that to atleast get 40 fps on a old game.
I remember playing tf2 on a levono thinkpad with a 1.8ghz processor, 4gb of ram, and a intel 4000 integrated graphics card (which had 128mb of vram). The agony.
god your laptop ran better than my old pc, when i was just starting off playing tf2 back in the day. 12 FPS was the AVERAGE framerate i got.
This brings back memories, the first pc I got into playing this game on was a Core 2 Duo Optiplex back in early 2014ish. It is also part of what pushed me to build a PC around that time with a comparatively godlike GTX 650. Good memories.
Seeing that laptop brings back some memories. I started playing TF2 with The Orange Box on PS3 pure vanilla, then found out it had years of updates, weapons, hats, and was FREE on PC and got so jealous. This was the same laptop I had when I started my "real" TF2 journey. I remember it running not exactly well, but better than this. Maybe I had a slightly more powerful version of this model, or years of extra particle effects on cosmetics just made TF2 run this way.
Brings back memories of trying to play TF2 on my Acer Aspire X3200 from 2008, with a Phenom II X3 and Nvidia 8200 graphics. I upgraded it with a Gt 320 that overheated so much I had to play with the side panel off, but at least the game was playable.
I'll be damned, that's the CPU i wanted to buy
1:09 starts listing their IP address and social security number, email, and password
My first experience was playing on an old Dell laptop with Windows 7. It took like an entire day to install, and half an hour to finally get into a game - kong king, where I played engineer and built a sentry outside of spawn at around 2-4 fps. Ended up getting a newer secondhand laptop a few months after that and finally running tf2 at 40-50 fps with comanglia's cfg. Now I've got a pc :)
I just imagine Dell (Engineer) Upgrading your Computer with his Trusty Wrench 🔧🌚
I also got a notebook with near-identical specs back in 2012 as a Christmas gift, and I think lots of the lag in the video is definitely from the updates to the game in the past 9 years. I used to be able to play TF2 as pyro on dustbowl on an HP Compaq running Windows XP in 2012, but I highly doubt that the game would even be able to boot on its 1 gigabyte of ram today.
On notebooks the game ran okay-ish in 2012, but with every major update you would actively watch the framerate somehow get lower and lower on the same trade maps that the less fortunate had been restricted to due to their hardware.
The killing blow for me was Gun Mettle, as when that update dropped I remember TF2 being *COMPLETELY* unplayable on suijin and the other new maps, and it didn't help that the newly-added texture streaming destroyed the last semblance of clarity from the textures for everyone on bad hardware. The game was so unmanageable on a notebook by that point that I ended up building a PC inside a cardboard box with money that I scrapped up over the remainder of summer 2015 just to play the game again.
I hope tf2 dev team apply team comtress 2, it has qol changes from fixing annoying bugs to improved performance.
I can't believe I used to play Call of Duty WaW in the exact same craptop, then used for college work (it worked fast for that) and then I killed it when I opened it to clean it. Damn, those HP sucked
Damn thats rough.
Finally, a video I can use to show people what playing TF2 on my PC is like.
:(
2:25 got trickstabbed by an AI spy who disguised as heavy
Definitely your most out there thumbnail
0:29 That's true. For example I play with amd ryzen 5 3550h, nvidia gtx 1650, 16 gb ram and when I'm on offline server with bots I have like 150 fps in spawn, when I look in the floor I have around 200, when I'm on empty server (no bots, no real players) I have around 250-300 fps, but when I'm on server with bots during gunfight I have around 80 fps. On actual servers with real players I have around 50-100 fps whether I'm in spawn or gunfight. It just pisses me off that I can run css 200-500 fps (actually max I can is 750 fps, but that's on empty server while I'm watching floor) and in csgo 200-250 fps on 64 tick servers and around 130 fps on 128 tick servers. Especially csgo, game looks harder to run while in fact it's actually easier (ofcourse it makes sense cuz it's one of the most competitive games and it gets constant updates so that it can be optimized on any hardware as much as it can). Valve should take more care about tf2, but as far as I see chances that will happen are really low, possibly never.
Yeah this is actually exactly my experience with TF2. With configs. One day I’ll afford some form of better computer.
i first played tf2 about a year ago on my parents computer that i kid you not used to run windows 7 and my parents don't remember when they got it. now it "runs" on windows 10.
i have a horrendous pc and i get 10-20 fps at the most, i sometimes get spikes uptil 60 fps but it goes down instantly all his gameplay is basically me trying to play
My first rig, a Dell Laptop from 2013, permanently throttles its speed because of the one time it overheated and crashed from running onenote.
L M F A O, this is such a stupidly relatable experience! When I first started playing TF2, I ALSO used an old HP laptop. In fact, the very first few times I played TF2, I didn’t even use a mouse! I used the stupid damn mouse pad to aim! LMAO wonderful video man!
this title reminds me of my GPUless 100$ pc, it ran tf2 with a lot of glitches and missing textures, was an absolute mess
tf2 for 3ds
I always experience this, my problem is with the shitty tiny updates that add tiny event contents that take over 9GB of my memory, it just makes it worse
Aar: has an decade old machine.
Also Aar: Install Linux they said, it will be a fine time they say......
You call 20 fps unplayable I call that peak performance
My computer back in the days of old tf2 plays was running into 10- frames, i was forced to play into the thing for 3 years bruh
It works worse than my laptop, and here I was thinking mine was the worst! Though it works better than mine when you changed the network settings... How did you do that give me that intel
I used an HP Envy tower that my father purchased from Costco. It was Win 8 and it ran an old i5 2nd Gen and a 500GB hard drive.
It ran at maybe 30 fps, but it was my everything.
I saved all my christmas and summer savings and bought a GTX 760 and a PSU, and followed the build guide on LTT. It was a different machine after that.
I remember first playing TF2 on a prototype Sony Vaio FW Laptop from 2008. I'll never forget the good times I had on that heavy heap of overheating metal.
sounds like the cpu was the issue, as well as possibly only 4 gigs of ram (tf2 eats more ram than you think)
at best, an upgrade from the E-300 to a E-450 to add 350 mhz, and adding another 2-4 gigs of ram could've helped... but you'd be better off just getting a different pc at that point if the upgradability is poor. great video!
as someone who unironically plays with a 2012 dell laptop, I can say that it isnt as bad as you think, it takes some time to get used to 20 to 12 fps but once you learn the stutter pattern, you can manage it.
although I really cant wait to get a better machine.
i watched the creation of the thumbnail for this and i hated every moment of it
I used to play like this on our family pc :/ I mean I still suffering from the low fps, but thanks to mastercoms it slightly helped my gaming experience.
I also had an HP pavilion 2000 (but I had an Intel Dual Core, not AMD), and I absolutely remember it didn't run this bad. It was the updates, specifically the meet your match update, that tanked the framerate on older machines. Like with my current AMD FX 6300 build, that used to run TF2 at above 60 in combat most of the time. But after the Jungle Inferno update, I have to make the game look as bad as in this video to make it barely even reach 60.
Now y'all understand what i have to deal with
TBH what surprised me the most about this video is how your laptop running a mobile CPU (a pretty good one tho) was extremely close to reaching your main PC's performance while using the same settings.
Sounds about how my old laptop ran it back in 2010. Horrendously.
How does my old laptop run it faster also not my old laptop is just old on it's self
6:55 check if you didnt accidentally pressed airplane mode by typing "rfkill list" in terminal
there have been times where I got kicked from a match before I even joined for being AFK for too long(not anymore, thank god)
The frustration is relatable u_u
One day I'll escape this laggy hell too...
Good Luck Lad , Good Luck
I used to play tf2 on a intel core i5 (the very first one) and a AMD hd graphics 2450 (numbers might be wrong) with 4gb of ram and this laptop basically had the same issues besides having 11fps
My laptop being an integrated intel graphics "I-5200U 4GB" is not completely the worst laptop but still very shitty lol
I started with a Celeron that had something like an Intel Q43 Express graphics chipset and started playing TF2 with an average of 12-15FPS. I got so decent at that that when I finally upgraded to a HD 5450 and got a whopping 36FPS it actually made me WORSE somehow.
As someone who used a shitty pc to play tf till december last year, the extreme stuttering began when jungle inferno released, before that It was pretty playable for me, well most of the time, but after that I had to stay in turbine to have a fighting chance.
Watching this a year in the future, I always love remembering my old laptop, some old hp computer that I know was most likely just a little better than most chromebooks. My old laptop may have had a better cpu but it used intel hd graphics, no graphics card at all. Luckily modding saved me. This video is great.
20 fps sounds like a blessing to me
My buddy still plays on a Thinkpad laptop
The battery doesn't work so he has to keep it plugged in and it has some random mismatched memory upgrades to give it all the help we can
Your laptop can't ''breath'' on your bed
Yeah my old PC was a toaster too it wasn't even a gaming PC it was just a regular laptop
Can't believe your game didn't crashed. My computer close TF2 when I'm about to join a second server, sometimes even in the first server I join.
I never knew why that happen, sometimes a window appear saying "textures might be too high" but I have every thing at the lowest possible quality
maybe this laptop would work in 2012 tf2? we may never know
I started playing tf2 in 2015 on a very busted laptop from like 2007-2008 that I ruined by dropping it and actually trying to install a free version of minecraft.
This is funny because that's exactly how I play TF2, on a garbage laptop (except my FPS is like 40% higher)
Even know it was a bad quality time of my TF2 in my career, it was a happier one
Yea no matter how improved our devices has become throughout the years, i still prefer the older, happier times..
That is pretty similar to my experience playing TF2 but a little worse. I have EVERYTHING as low as it possibly can, and still get usually around 10-15 fps.
My god, this video reminds me of when back in 2016, I used to play Payday 2 on a shitty notebook at stable *10 FPS.* That includes playing on lowest settings(which also includes inaccessible settings in a menu which had to be changed via equivalent to the config files. My game looked like clay.) AND using mods to increase performance via removal of particle effects and such.
pretty sure with dx81 and very low mastercomfig you couldve actually gotten around 30-20fps avg
I play tf2 daily on a 10 year old Lenovo Thinkpad t420s which has an Intel i5 2520m which is a dual core, 4 thread 2.5ghz processor. playing the game with the same medium low config and at 720p resolution gets me in the range of 30-60 fps depending on how much shit is happening on the screen at any given moment
When I first started playing on the 80's tower my dad had with the 80kb net speed. I exclusively played engineer from the simple idea "if I can't aim and shoot people in real time, then I'll build something that can"
There's Tf2 unusuals worth more than his craptop
bro is just playing on my pc rn 💀
I played on my old laptop and had like 25-30 fps, but it was with bots and also it loaded for like 5-7 minutes. Multiplayer was unplayable though (and by that I mean 1-2 fps)
I play on the HP Craptop MK 9 (2019 Pavilion), it’s a smoother experience but it does chug when the engine collects crud.
AND SOMEHOW FALLOUT 4
ONE OF THE LEAST OPTIMIZED GAMES OF ALL TIME
CAN RUN 200 MODS SOME WITH HIGH POLYGON COUNTS, SOME THAT OPTIMIZE EVERYTHING CAN RUN AT 30-40 FPS.
Edit: 300 Mods, all DLC, at 720p
This sounds so similar to the PC I had to play TF2 on in 2013-14 - a dell workstation with an E5400 intel core 2 duo, 3gb of ram and a 256 MB nvidia quadro fx 3450 which also motivated me to build my own computer once I had enough money for one in 2015.
6:56 lol what do you expect? It's Linux, of course the hardware drivers will break. "Linux is free if you don't value your time"
I think it's a thing when laptops grow old and are unused for a certain time that they become spiteful and choose to perform horrendously.
I never thought that a computer worse than my Late 2015 mac existed but here we are, had to play on all low settings and even installing the low mastercomfig mod *made it's frames drop even worse*
It runs just about the same gameplay in this video only that its just barely more playable
did you expected a laptob to run well after collecting dust for 4 years?
you are supposed to clean it up and see if the fan is working before you start using it
How do I do it?
i guarantee you i cleaned this thing
@@supportsciencistgaming4761 you take it apart the and use an air blower if you don't opened up a laptop before don't do it take it to a professional to do it if you really want to clean it
@@Aarmastah well if it's that bad why not use it's parts for something good you it will be useful as a tray or you can take the screen and turn it into a big light that looks like a window
@@Aarmastah try running windows 7, source games hate opengl
Tf2 finally updated tl 64 Bits instead of 32 bit
"22 fps would be unplayable"
Me with 30fps: ...
after this tuesday i will no longer have to play like this anymore
Oh man, I didn't know you recorded my current day laptop :D
I have a refurbished 2012 HP Elitebook 8470p with a Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3320M CPU running @ 2.60GHz with a whooping 8 gbs of D A M N R A M
This baby can run Warframe (on 800 x 600, low and get 60 fps when nothing is happening), Borderlands 2 (640 x 400, low pretty swanky consistent frame rate), and Starcraft II (1080 x 644, low, lags alot). But can't run Team Fortress 2 (audio glitching and lag spikes for no reason), League of Legends (lags everytime I get cs), or Roblox (bluescreen).
Seeing this video just makes me realize that I haven't played tf2 in a while and I love the game but man, valve's lack of communation just bums me out so much that I kinda get turned off on the idea of playing it. Thanks Aar, we love you!
The audio clipping over itself and stuttering in the beginning of the match brought me all the way back to my own first laptop lmao.
Shitty ass gateway laptop with a pentium 2 that I’m now knowing I was way too harsh on considering the setup you were rolling w at the same age 😭😭😭 tf2 ran way better back in the day to be fair, I think besides this I could play smite on the lowest settings at 10fps 😅
thats faster from my pc holy
İts funny that i almost get the same performance with worst graphics and everything disabled