Is Seven Nation Army Just Annoying Now?
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Is this the best riff of all time?! How have they done this? The White Stripes created one of the most iconic, repetitive and addictive songs of the 2000s. It is sung at sporting events, other people's gigs, it gets stuck in our heads, it's the song most young guitarist learn first. WHAT IS ABOUT THIS SONG?! Somebody...please, help me. Explain.
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Its just such a primal riff, like Smoke On The Water, feels like it's always existed and hard to think how music got so far without it? The sort of riff everyone wishes they had stumbled on
It's a straight RIP off from Anton Bruckner 5th Symph. 150 year-old piece so no copyright. But he developed the Riff into a great song so credit due.
@@AnonYmous-ez4es And Anton Bruckner wasn't hiding his chord's major and minor notes haha.
I don’t 🤣
And I wonder how many more there are? I also wonder how many times guitarists around the world played that exact riff whilst noodling around at home before Jack cemented it as something? Was he the first person to ever play that riff? Did someone else play the Teen Spirit riff before Kurt? And how many bedroom guitarists have written riffs that would have become just as iconic but never did anything with it? So many fascinating questions.
@@richardhorrocks1460 4:24 Ditto Blur’s Song 2. I pretty much came up with the same riff while faffing about in a rehearsal room with a bunch of deadbeats, sorry, my band, around 1988. Still got a slightly wobbly old TDK cassette of same rehearsal just to prove to myself that Dr Alzheimer isn’t knocking at the door. But it’s just a coincidence - never met Graham Coxon or anyone else from Blur. Only so many chords out there.
Being a relatively simple riff, this makes you wonder, how many times have little town bands/bedroom players "stumbled" upon a riff that WOULD be iconic, but didn't think anything of it and just never played it again?
The amount of times i drifted to sleep as a music student thinking i'd just come up with the greatest thing ever, only to dream and forget it by the morning, is impossible to count xD. So i totally think it's happened endless times.
"We are watching a sports match, we are watching a nice sporting match" really gets the home team going and is responsible for the outcomes of many final scores.
Something Jordan Schlansky would say to Conan. Really gets the home team going in various ways, too.
"I did not expect the song to be in E minor" has to be the second least uttered phrase in rock music right after "thanks, I won't have another beer"
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True dat.
And "I'll just turn down my guitar's distortion!"
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The least uttered phrase actually being "wait, that's in locrian?!"
As Ritchie Blackmore has said : “ if the mailman can whistle it while delivering the mail , it’s a hit “
My mailman whistles Winds of Change by The Scorpions.
I don’t think it should be whistled.
Worked for John Prine (was mail man before, and wrote several songs while on route.)
My mailman whistles Flight of the Bumble Bees.
The mailman can't whistle anything anymore because he no longer exists.
@@j_freed it literally starts with a whistle part...
"The wrong note, played with enough conviction, is the right note" ... great quote!
Lol its basically the definition for punk music lol.
I love that
I heard Myles Kennedy when asked about playing guitar on stage... "if you make a mistake and hit the wrong note, just hit it again"
I can't listen to this without singing "we are watching a sports match" now. Thanks Justin
I adore Jack White! I'm from Detroit and am glad to claim him as our own!!! BTW I'm 69 years old in July. Music is truly ageless!!!
I'll be 59 in September, and I'm a huge fan of the Darkness. My daughter dragged me into the living room to see this video and I'm going to love it and yada. I saw your cute little butt and listened to I Believe in a Thing Called Love, and it was love at first hear? Viewing? Whatever. I love you Justin!😁
Nice
Well congratulations on getting to the coolest age there is.
Yeah, but Detroit also must claim Robert Richie. The trade offs.
Music transcends age, race, gender and even species. Only little bump on the road is fundamentalist religion, but let's not open that can of worms and agree to disagree.
Your breakdown of this song was exceptional.
The part about why people hear songs differently blew my mind, I’d never thought of it like that before.
I fucking love this man.
Man… what is it about your videos, dude? So freaking good. Authentic, informative, funny… make these forever please, I can’t get enough, Justin 🤓
Passion, authenticity, and personality
I can honestly say my day is improved after watching this channel. Thanks Justin! What would obviously make this song better is the inclusion of cowbell.
This man saved my life. I was on the edge 2 weeks ago and discovered this show. I laughed. I learned. I live.
Ditto Edward my friend, ditto
Stay well brother.
@@brianmorrissey554 thanks. You too my friend
Hang in there Edward. It’s all we can do sometimes. 🤷♀️ Thinking of you. Xx
Be safe pal. Greeting from Norway
I bloody love how rough and messy 300 M.P.H. Torrential Outpour Blues off of Icky Thump sounds. The whole album has this crazy textural quality to it that always makes it stand out to me.
Simplicity itself was the whole concept wasn't it ? - didn't they release an album called De Stijl based on the Dutch minimalist art movement where they only used three elements to express whatever they had to say - hence the black white and red - or something like that - its genius - I saw them at a concert called Livid in Sydney in the early 2000s - they were in a tent - just Jack and Meg a guitar and her drumkit on a tiny stage - Linkin Park were playing the main stage at the same time with huge Synth banks, 9 bandmembers, 12 guitars, fireworks and a light show - There were ten people watching Linkin Park and the the tent was overflowing with 3 or 4000 - It was so stark - it seemed like it almost had to have been engineered by Jack because that was their thing - true story
Recently he has moved on to guitars that are really easy to play and can "do everything". In his past he loved fighting with the guitar and played "cheap" guitars to get his creativity flowing but now he is doing the exact opposite and that is why I love him. He never stays in one box and is always switching it up. Never resting on his laurels.
He does love to experiment and try different things. That being said, I really hope he makes another album in the style of The White Stripes before he hangs it up, but I don't expect it to ever happen.
He's been mucking about with that poor Tele for years now... b-benders and kill switches galore.
Wow your guitar knowledge all the theory and techniques, with the ease that you glean out all the best cool parts of the songs, Simply amazing. You have quickly become one of my few favorite Musicians (guitarists) of all time. Thank you for being yourself and not compromising.
When I saw The White Stripes play in 2006 (I think!) Jack was using a beat up f-hole hollow body with gaffa tape for this song which was screaming with feedback every second it wasn't being played and seemed quite brave and was absolutely brilliant as a live show
And he still uses that guitar to this day when playing this song live. Saw him just last week (for nearly the the dozen’th time)
@@bagerswell he was given that guitar by his brother for helping him deliver a refrigerator well before they were big. played it on their first grammy appearance. its a very cheap Kay. but he can make it sound spectacular... check death letter from 'blackpool lights'
@@kevincason5309 The Blackpool lights version of Death letter is what I show people who don't get my love of the Stripes. Usually I make a convert of them.
This and Come As You Are were the first riffs I learnt on guitar. Simple but instantly recognisable.
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Come As You Are sounds similar to "Eighties" by Killing Joke. I wonder if Kurt accidentally ripped off that riff?
Jack wanted Megs drumming to be almost child like as well as his songs , He loved that vibe! That's the secret to their playing if there ever was one.
It's the anyone can be a musician thing. That's why the Stripes got so big. After they came out I knew so many guitar players who forced there girlfriends to pick up drums.
“Word Up” is a gift. Thank you for bringing it to the conversation.
Heard an interview with Jack where he talks about how honored he is to have wrote a song that is so ingrained into the culture. Such a wise and unpretentious response to the question. The White Stripes are such a special band, maybe the last truly great rock band. They had a 5 album run of quality ROCK music. I saw them in 2004, best show I've ever seen. The energy 2 people could make, blew me away.
Edit: I'd like to add that in this era at least, anything he did in higher octaves was the whammy pedal. I always got the vibe he had a lot of intonation problems with the airline and other guitars, seems like he worked the whammy pedal into his style as a way to get past that problem and ended up getting a really unique style because of it.
His Airline only had 20 frets, so it is nice having the whammy to do solos that you'd miss not having higher frets. Plus, his wild solos with the whammy are basically a signature Stripes sound. Brilliant band with SIX amazing albums. All progressive to the final sound of the band at Icky Thump.
They had 6 albums. Sorry had to say it.
@@invisibot6 I didn't like anything after get behind me satan, Imo the first 5, the run of 5 I talked about, was amazing. Reading comprehension. Even GBMS took me awhile to get into, def the weakest of the first 5. It has its charms though in the context of their discography/long live set.
@steven milstead Yah QotSA are amazing. I always think of them as a 90s band for some reason, I just looked it up and sure enough they have a similar timeline as TWS. 2001-2003 was such a good time for rock music.
When I was 18 back in 2003, The Darkness and the White Stripes, albeit radically different, were my absolute favourite contemporary bands. Permission to Land and Elephant are eternal masterpieces.
Saw Jack White reacting to the question about how he feels about it taking on this life as a chant, and he said he was a bit perplexed, but what greater honour could you get? Your song is literally now "folk music". Music of the people.
Thanks for checking them out. Love Jack White, and the Stripes are one of the best 2000s rock groups - although, most of their work is obviously overshadowed by this mega hit.
It is a badge of courage to make an album for only 20k. It speaks volumes for the skill and discernment of the writers, players, producer, engineer - the whole shebang - to pull that off. 👍🏽
Love the energy and in-depth musical knowledge. Thanks for sharing
Love Jack, particularly this era, (although his latest record is also great) He manages to achieve so much while rarely straying outside of the minor pentatonic. There are plenty of guitarists out there who will use many more notes and much more harmonic information and achieve less. I have never been bored while listening to his music and that's one of the biggest compliments I think you can give a musician.
I do remember “Thing Called Love” and “Seven Nation Army” coming out the same spring/summer
Justin , you have me buzzing around throughout the day singing , Justin Hawkins rides , again. Lol , talk about a great riff bro !
Well, who knew? Justin Hawkins Rides Again has been coming up in my recommendation for weeks now. And until today I have resisted. But you know what? I caved in today and who knew that Justin Hawkins Rides Again is actually funny, informative and moreish? Bravo Justin Hawkins... I might even subscribe in a minute!
Great stuff Justin! Jack is definitely, in my opinion, keeping Rock alive! And he is representing Detroit, which gets a bit of a raw deal sometimes in the musical world. Love him!
And Love You and Your channel! Cheers!
Detroit is a top Five Rock City Town. If not top 3
Great video! I love hearing musicians break down songs like this.
I also love 12tone's breakdown of this song, definitely check out his channel, he is a music theorist but covers a lot of rock and metal songs. Super interesting!
Here's the video: m.ua-cam.com/video/ZeytZ8qvbTk/v-deo.html
Doesn’t matter what’re the topic, I love listening to Justin’s take on anything really . I love the Darkness, but even if I didn’t I reckon I’d still watch this. Analysis of musical riffery by a riffmaster . Great stuff .
I absolutely adore watching you talk. Thank you❤
New to your channel Justin, been binge watching videos today. Such a refreshing new take on classic tunes! As a very basic guitar player that has messed around for 20 years I love your natural style and knowledge. Well done sir!
Jack has done some great work since ... but the White Stripes with Meg and him and its brilliant simplicity is on another level.
15:00 Jack actually said that had been his ethos: To play shit guitars and work hard but after meeting EVH, who asked him 'WHY would you want to work harder?!' and then being gifted with a custom blue Wolfgang, he's stopped playing POS axes.
The one he played at SNL right?
@@nicolaserafini6590 Yup
Thought that quote was from Albert King or B. B. King or some other rock monarch
@@jaredgregory3075 a proper setup goes a long way
One of the only huge pop songs without ANY words in the chorus.
I did an induction today for a job as a employment consultant. It had a segment if youre doing your dream job.
Had a picture of Mr Justin Hawkins.
Perfect.
Yeah 🙌 this is now one of my favourite videos of the channel 🤩🤩🤩
9:36 "It's almost like they had a manifesto to keep everything simple"
Yes they did. Using the example of a three-legged table always being stable, they restricted themselves to three instruments - guitar, drums and vocal, and three colours (red, black and white). That's why he used a pitch shifted guitar in the intro rather than a bass.
The drums are somehow funky, when juxtaposed with that riff, and I love the little syncopation that happens when the tune gets heavier!
About the white stripes being simplistic, jack white said something about the number 3 - how it is the minimum number of legs for a table to stay upright :) cool stuff. Bare necessity
Jack White is definitely keeping rock alive, his Glasto 22 performance proved that. It was a sad day when the White Stripes ended but he'll keep moving forward.
Justin, I have Covid.
And watching your videos has made the this horrible virus easier to deal with.
Thank you
never seen anyone use a mic as a slide. you killed it mate.
Dear Justin,
Until recently I though an Austin Arto was a car my Grandfather drove in the late 60’s so thanks for the education and your effervescent humour too, what a super channel!
👌🏼❣️
It would DEFINITELY be worth watching him perform this song from last week at Glastonbury! It’s soooo good. ❤️ you Justin!
Agreed! He made the song new again with that version and he really knew his audience who were great at filling in the gaps and hyping the band up. Amazing performance
Justin is such a class act...
"The wrong note played with the right conviction is the right note"
As a Bass Tromboner I can very relate to that.😉🤣
It doesn't get annoying just how toast and marmalade doesn't get annoying. It's in the balance.
i think you could ask the same thing about malcolm young... how could something so simple be so genius.
I agree, I'll be happy if I never hear it again. Having said that, 40 odd years of gig going and White Stripes at Blackpool Empress Ballroom in November 2005 is the best I've ever seen. A magical night.
"the wrong note played with enough conviction is the right note" is the most brilliant quote ever, words to live a life by, is that a Hawkins original quote or is that from somewhere?
Great break down on this song. One of those songs that when it comes on the radio you can’t help but turn up and sing along. Love that Gibson acoustic by the way. From a fellow Lowestoftian keep up the good work, great show. Peace
Definitely popular in sports. Many years ago, Birmingham City had a player called Nikola Zigic. And it was common place to hear ‘oh Ni-Kola Zi-gic’ descending from the stands
I remember that year. I got their album along with yours. I was about 13 and just started getting really into my music. I rebought those albums recently and they take me right back. Both great albums, and what a great year that was.
Love this one! And your outfit 😍
I believe Jack played the song in Open G tuning so he could play the slide
It’s the smoke on the water of today. It’s become the first riff most new players learn.
Thank you for dissecting. Appreciate the breakdown and perspective. When folks say they don’t know who Jack White is, i
I say, “yes, you do,” and hum the riff. And then I think to myself, you are missing out if you don’t know who is. So much more to his catalog than just the brilliant Seven Nation Army. And if he comes to your town, GOOOOOO,!!! Justin so glad you appreciate Jack’s contribution and artistry. And yes to the white trousers, . #jackwhite #whitestripes #justinhawkins
Jack explains it in “It Might Get Loud”. No bass, open A tuning with the whammy pedal set an octave lower.
Jack White is absolutely keeping Rock n Roll alive 🤘🎸🐘
You touched on one of the biggest reasons why it's a massive hit. It's so simple that literally anyone can sing along to it and everybody does. You can hand a guitar to somebody who has never touched one and they can figure out how to play that riff in moments. It's rock music on a molecular level.
Nice how you chose the colours of your clothes in line to the The White Stripes colour scheme. ^_^
I love your intro/outro tune, Sir.
Jack White is a musical master he thinks outside the box of the originals that brings a new life to them. I love his music from the stripes, the rocontuers ,and his bands.
But is he?
You should give Jack's Triplegraph pedal a go Justin; three telegraph style pedal switches, left is octave down, middle is either a raw cut-out or FX loop and the right is an octave up.
The octaves can either operate latched or temporary.
It's fewkin' AWESOME.
I was mesmerized by the song when it came out, then I listened to it a dozen times in a row on a train ride. I sang it for hours when I marched up a mountain in India.
I did not care when it became a stadium chant and I didn't notice when it got remixed I clubs. And I could not be touched when anybody says it's tedious.
This song belongs to me and only me whenever I listen to it.
I think the thing that makes it great is the imaginative spark we get during the riff, like there's always this impication of more to come, every section is some sort of callback or foreshadowing. It's kind of like techno where the intro drums are super repatative but it kind of amps you up because they remind us of the riff or drop
Fun Fact, No Bass in this song. This is played in Drop A tuning, which is a 7 string tuning that essentially is E Standard with a Low A String. Jack shows this in the Documentary "It Might Get Loud."
The song's a home run for them, without a doubt. But I will say,....I've heard it enough to where if I never heard it again I'd be ok with that. Just like many other great songs over the years.
Hey jude for me
I love when you talk about the excitement of hearing musicians playing in the edge of catastrophe. I always think of seeing the Meat Puppets in a brightly lit cafeteria in 1985ish. Curt Kirkwood’s playing always did that for me. Would love to hear your take on something like “Magic Toy Missing” from Meat Puppets II.
Yes, from the first track to the last, C. Kirkwood was playing guitar like I'd never heard before on MP II. And live in the mid-80s he played w/ a kind of frenzied euphoria that was fascinating to watch and to hear. MPII is a one-of-a-kind magical record.
Seven Nation Army has always reminded me of Santa Monica by Everclear, in the way that the song is essentially just the same riff played ad nauseam with variations in the dynamics and instrumentation.
These shows are fantastic. Great to hear a musicians insight. Plus I love looking at that Gibson... 👍
Once they become overplayed sports anthems (Seven Nation Army, Welcome To The Jungle, Chelsea Dagger, We Will Rock You, We Are The Champions, Another One Bites The Dust) it really kind of ruins the song for me. Those Queen songs in particular are so great, but I would never sit around listening to any of those songs at home now. I'm glad I Believe In A Thing Called Love hasn't been captured yet.
I get your drift, but the songs that are overplayed and are ruined for me are those long songs like Free Bird or almost anything by Lynyrd Skynyrd, Hotel California, Hey Jude, and Stairway to Heaven. There are times when I do like putting on Stairway, though. However, and maybe it's because I am a Queen fanatic, I could put the Queen songs you mentioned on UA-cam Music and just get into them. I do get what you are saying.
Thank you for teaching me the word omnipotent. I thought I couldn’t love you more. ❤️🤘🏼
there's a video of ships in a harbour blasting the riff on their foghorns, each ship playing a different note. very cool.
It's clear by listening to you Justin I don't put enough thought in to listening to music? I don't analyse, I just enjoy? Each to their own, enjoyment is subjective? Surely? I've got an headache now. Great channel, great content, great bloke. 👍👍👍👊✌️.
I'm glad this song has replaced Rock n' Roll Part II as the all encompassing sports anthem. You can sing along to it guilt-free.
Lol
Glitter FTW
When Jimmy Page asks you how you came up with a riff, you know it isn't too shabby
"NETBALL GOAL"
Love it. Great shirt.
P.S. thanks for being super lovely when I met you in Melbourne outside the show. Hope I didn't ruin your smoko
It's the modern "Everybody dance now" by c+c torture factory
Hearing someone casually figure out that riff on an acoustic guitar is just as (if not more) familiar to me at this point as the recorded riff itself. It's just one of those riffs.
As riffs go it’s a bloody good one ☝️ and it’s gotta be up near the top of the tables if they count for anything. He’s a real all time talent and together the White Stripes are fabulous 👌
It turns out Jack White is also a very talented upholsterer. No I’m not joking haha.
"I Believe In A Thing Called Love" another brilliant song!
There was a rugby player here in NZ named Waisake Naholo, to whom the crowd chanted: Wai-sa-ke Na-Hooo-looo. It fit perfectly.
A true artist is they one that has all of these incredible influences and sounds like none of them.
Great videos Justin. You nailed it.
Blue orchid is my favourite White Stripes track.
As an absolute novice guitar player (if that) my baby fingers can feel every time your fingers slide down the strings, tingles my spine.
5:07 I wasnt expecting that cameo reference😎
Love the throughline to Cameo. Bravo
it's like the Jaw's theme, it's no longer music but part of our DNA. 🙃 I think Jack's voice is an instrument in itself that's why it doesn't get old.
Immersive and approachable analysis - thank you for sharing
"oooh scissor me daddy" is the newest way of using it I've noticed. The Acclaimed are an AEW wrestling tag team who do a scissor finger greeting/celebration and it really took off with fans. They chant it like its a soccer game
very interesting vid out the with jack white, the Edge and Sir James Page. Where they discuss a song riff each, Jack picked this one.
Btw having seen The White Stripes live, the guitar he played this song on is a a knackered looking old acoustic with the sound hole taped up to stop it screaming feedback and had a humbucker taped to it. You'd be embarrassed to take to an open mic at the working men's club and he was up there in front of thousands who'd all paid more than it's worth each in tickets.
It was the same hall I'd seen Iron Maiden in but it weirdly made it feel more personal because of his skill, his soul and the mistakes me made.
Greetings Mr. Hawkins.
If i'm not mistaken, Mr. White uses a looping pedal as part of his live rig, at least back then.
Which will also explain away the lack of a wide stereo field.
The band i played with used looping pedals, one for each guitarist.
Those loopers have their place.
Cheers, sir.
It's the Smoke On the Water of the 2000's.
Garage rock at it's best - but ultimately White Blood Cells blew my mind awake whilst sleeping in the back of the car on the way to Donegal 25 years ago. Dead Leaves in The Dirty Ground - dug out out my soul straight outta my mind. Love ya Justin x