i picked up from Federer that no matter how well Andreev played he was still going to be unconcerned. the better Andreev played (he DID play well), the more interesting it was for Fed, in fact. Andreev playing well kept the match from being too boring and helped him get ready for the next round. that is the confidence of the supremely talented and there is no shame for Andreev or anyone else losing to a player like that.
This is why federer is the best. Even when the opponent is having a super human day, his range allowes him multiple options to find a way to win. Contrast with say Rosol vs Nadal or Wawrinka vs djokovic - Although by far the most athletic players to ever play tennis, their uni dimensional game gives them a hard time when the opponent is on a rampage
@angryniggah Exacty - On a fast speedy surface like grass, when your opponent is having an especially good day, its much more difficult for nadal/djokovic to overcome them. Its not like they havent - they are them after all. Most of the matches ,especially in the recent years have been played on much slower surfaces, including slowed grass allowing nadal/djok to counter anything with their inhuman athletic prowess and stability. My point is that Federer has much more variety and tools to disrupt an opponents rhythm on any surface than the usually one trick ponies nadal djock are. And I do not mean any disrespect here - that one trick has them at 21 and 20 gs so far and will likely win them more
It isn't news, federer always had the best match-up against the field. There are many stats out there to indicate this, in particular how many bagels and breadsticks he's been served vs rafa and novak. People who don't get that or bring up the random few times Roger has had a questionable loss are ignorant af.
2weakkickflip its a glorious shot, but what I hate is that Andreev grunts when he hits that slice in that rally, like really? So glad fed bagelled the twat in the last set.
I was just responding to a best forehands video and I was reminded of Andreev. He gets crazy spin and whip on the ball. Him and Gonzo were the best in my opinion
andreev played well, but in the style he plays, i get the feeling that he would have to win the first 3 sets to win. You can see how his energy just slowly but surely depletes after each set, and for some points even though Federer loses, he still manages to make andreev run quite a bit.
The way Andreev hits his topspin forehand is much more likely to result in immediate injury- at least in elbow and shoulder followed by head. It looks so stiff. Nadal's shot has more penetration and power simply because it's more linear and fluid. Even though Andreev plays a somewhat similar game to Rafa, the difference is more likely in the pain threshold and mentality. Rafa is more or less somewhat a masochist compared to this guy.
Andreev hits with a heavy top spin indeed, but less than Nadal. He's forehand is geared more towards penetration. In that aspect, he's shots go deeper than Nadal's do, with less spin.
Andreev was sort of a mini Nadal...but to keep this up physically...it's incredibelly difficult with the grip he uses...that's why he got bageled at the end
@gargarensi Then in typical Russian form, he caved in. I know Roger picked his game up a notch or two, but Andreev just vanished. A combination of both.
federer won this match because he had chances to find his forehand because unlike nadal igor plays righthanded nadal can just spam to feds bachand all day so this video proves the opposite but nice try
Andreev's game is def. similar to Nadal's. I guess growing up playing in Spain on the red clay will do that to a player, lol. In all seriousness though, he is definitely an underachiever. I mean, you don't expect for him to beat Federer and Nadal on a regular basis, but he chokes so often against lower ranked players! He often plays three sets in best of three sets and finds ways to choke. It's like he has to win in 2 in order to win, but yet he doesn't get beaten in straights sets either.
@garry1177 Of course not, and it has nothing to do with Federer. All court surfaces have been slowing down. Aussie is especially known for changing the entire makeup to a slower surface altogether (remember green Aussie?).
For some reason Federer's forehand was completely gone in this match, it did not have any power or bite, and his movements were awful. He should have changed his rachet at that time!
@gargarensi Not at all, Andreev is completely different type of player than Nadal. Hes ususally exremely offensive on his forehand, and likes to atack the net after inside-out forehands. Nadal on the other hand usually stays very defensive until he gets a really good opportunity. Apart from both playing heavy topspin theres nothing they share.
@BrainSane237 Not really... although there are some similarities. They don't play like each other at all though they have 2 completely different playing styles.
Lots of top players have these kind of matches against much lesser ranked players that they really don;t like but generally come through from. E.g. Nadal vs Muller or Gulbis, Djokovic vs rochus, Murray vs most big hitters :P. Obvs it can be argued for other players but these come to mind.
I think that Igor Andreev for Roger was uncomfortable opponents in spite of personal meetings,he always gave a dignified soprotivlenie Roger,and lost the fight almost always. Ah and match on The U.S. open 2008 was for Federer large test of. Only Igor could give a fight to Roger then. Forcing then and play 5 sets. But psychologically Andreeva was not enough as I think in that component he was very weak. And so I think it could win in any match from Roger.
interesting to see Regers style change in the last 9 years even though he has also aged another 8 years, I feel he is stronger, faster and calmer now, his forehand flatter, deeper and harder, the same almost with his slice backhand
This match is a perfect example of how short tennis players like Andreev, Nishikori, and Schwartzman are at a major disadvantage when playing individuals that are around 6'1-6'4, including Roger. I will admit that shorter players are generally more explosive. However, they must, in comparison to players like Roger: 1. Use more energy to get to every ball, since they have shorter strides, tiring them earlier in points and over the course of the match 2. Use more energy to hit the ball hard, since they have less body weight, also tiring them more 3. Hit far more shots above their strike zone, taking more energy and generally making their shots weaker or spinnier and more attack-able 4. Serve at a lower angle, making it more difficult to hit an ace or have a high serving percentage while still hitting a hard serve 5. Cover more ground with their feet because their reach is not as long In this match, these ideas were easy to see. In any baseline exchange, to get to a ball on the run, Andreev had to sprint like a mad man and take at least 6 quick steps to cover the baseline before coiling his entire body mass and uncorking with all his energy to hit a ball that was over his head, producing a shot that was angled nicely but short in the court, spinney, and somewhat weak. To respond, Federer could take 3 steps because of longer strides and far longer reach, use just his body weight and not overstrain, and loosely hit the ball with much less effort in his strike zone, blasting a ball down the line for winner in a high percentage manner. It is nearly impossible for someone like Andreev to overcome this consistently enough over a five set match to have any real chance of winning, even though his pound for pound ability in this match seemed to be at Federer's level.
What a player Igor... hammer forehand.
i picked up from Federer that no matter how well Andreev played he was still going to be unconcerned. the better Andreev played (he DID play well), the more interesting it was for Fed, in fact. Andreev playing well kept the match from being too boring and helped him get ready for the next round. that is the confidence of the supremely talented and there is no shame for Andreev or anyone else losing to a player like that.
They had a great 5 setter at the US Open in 2008 (4th Round)
This is why federer is the best. Even when the opponent is having a super human day, his range allowes him multiple options to find a way to win. Contrast with say Rosol vs Nadal or Wawrinka vs djokovic - Although by far the most athletic players to ever play tennis, their uni dimensional game gives them a hard time when the opponent is on a rampage
@angryniggah Exacty - On a fast speedy surface like grass, when your opponent is having an especially good day, its much more difficult for nadal/djokovic to overcome them. Its not like they havent - they are them after all. Most of the matches ,especially in the recent years have been played on much slower surfaces, including slowed grass allowing nadal/djok to counter anything with their inhuman athletic prowess and stability. My point is that Federer has much more variety and tools to disrupt an opponents rhythm on any surface than the usually one trick ponies nadal djock are. And I do not mean any disrespect here - that one trick has them at 21 and 20 gs so far and will likely win them more
Just like Federer overcoming that random dude in the 2nd round of Wimbledon 2013.. oh wait
It isn't news, federer always had the best match-up against the field. There are many stats out there to indicate this, in particular how many bagels and breadsticks he's been served vs rafa and novak. People who don't get that or bring up the random few times Roger has had a questionable loss are ignorant af.
@@WuzzaWombat
Novak and Nadal lost to MORE random dudes. Let that sink in.
@@Riri-oj1zsFederer lost the most lol. He is the 3rd best among the big3😂
The GOAT forever
14:05 how come I've never seen this shot in a Federer compilation
It is bru
Yeah, I haven't seen that one for a while, but it's been in many highlight reels.
I saw like million times lol
Seen it all the time, it's a not a recent shot that's why. In all the Federer compilations in the 2010-2013 period you'd see it frequently.
2weakkickflip its a glorious shot, but what I hate is that Andreev grunts when he hits that slice in that rally, like really? So glad fed bagelled the twat in the last set.
I was just responding to a best forehands video and I was reminded of Andreev. He gets crazy spin and whip on the ball. Him and Gonzo were the best in my opinion
"We could have a match on our hands here!! And for a bit we did. Then Roger turned into Roger Federer and it was over..
andreev played well, but in the style he plays, i get the feeling that he would have to win the first 3 sets to win. You can see how his energy just slowly but surely depletes after each set, and for some points even though Federer loses, he still manages to make andreev run quite a bit.
Roger thanked Igor for making it interesting by giving him a final set bagel as a snack
I know your comment is old but i laughed so hard. Haha
No he thanked him for choking away that 3rd set
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The way Andreev hits his topspin forehand is much more likely to result in immediate injury- at least in elbow and shoulder followed by head. It looks so stiff. Nadal's shot has more penetration and power simply because it's more linear and fluid. Even though Andreev plays a somewhat similar game to Rafa, the difference is more likely in the pain threshold and mentality. Rafa is more or less somewhat a masochist compared to this guy.
i think rafa is into bdsm.....
Andreev hits with a heavy top spin indeed, but less than Nadal. He's forehand is geared more towards penetration. In that aspect, he's shots go deeper than Nadal's do, with less spin.
this is absurdly good quality thanks!!
This looks like theyre playing at roland garros...sooo slow the ball is traveling..
harrison jananto tell me about it.. this is the year when the Aus Open was at it’s slowest point (2010).
@@goxaviergo11 2012*
Aleksa Teemo nah 2010 was slowest.
@@goxaviergo11 2012 was slower than roland garros that year.
@Tano27 why don't you just go watch the highlights?😒😒😒
2:40 andreev return is the most ridiculous shot in this video
Golden legend
Watching Federer is like watching poetry in motion...
Did we ever hear from Andreev again besides Indian Wells vs federer?
David TC yer he was dating Kirilenko. decent achievment
not anymore. not long after his injuries thwarted his career.
Too bad. I think andreev had really potential. Love his ground solid strokes. Really put rf in trouble at times
Andreev was sort of a mini Nadal...but to keep this up physically...it's incredibelly difficult with the grip he uses...that's why he got bageled at the end
federer's footwork is wow 2:33
dietlamp and
1:24 - Federer trying to counter hit with more topspin
Andreev was a beast. Big power
When Federer was doing that kind of shots , Nadal was still learning how to serve.
no offence to Federer haters or Nadal fans or Andreev fans....Federer lost a set possibly ONLY because it was the first round in a GS.
Andreev = nadal
too bad he right hand so he will never beat federer
Federer really afraid of top spin moaning shots.
he did beat rafa on clay tho
He has PTSD from top spin moans.
@Tano27 what about Madrid 2009 then?
Tano27 huh? He beat him in 2007 and 2009.
Federer struggles when court not fast enough.
@VerdascoFan Actually his strokes are quite similar.
Huge spin on the forehand and the backhand looks quite the same.
Poor man's Nadal? The way this guy was playing, one would think he was a world #1! :O
great match!
@BrainSane237 To clarify, I mean in this match.
He doesn't play like this normally.
the surface looks very slow
Don't put the score in the description ya wally
what a nice man is igor and very talentd playr but the enjury kill him talent
he still won this tournament in that time :P so not too complacent but yes definitely see your point there.
Where is this Andreev guy now? Never heard of him
AO is not fast surface anymore since they turned it to blue surface (2009)
Australian Open 2010 Men's Singles Final
@gargarensi he even grunts like him too!
Good fight Andrew
great vid but why is this in my suggestions? youtube's suggestion algorithm has been very interesting lately
igor played a really good match, he stuck to his agressive game plan and didn´t take the foot of the pedal..
Igor templated the neo modern forehand?
Uncanny comment. He even took up the Nadal chant (gueeeeh)
Andreev was really not an interesting player at all but did have one of the heaviest forehands ever
'possibly the best shot of the tournament so far'
haha maybe because its still the first round? haha commentators.
It's been 7 years. Hope you found out about qualifications to grand slam.
14:03 - Federer does a Nadal banana shot.
at 00:51 they give the point to federer even though he didn't win the point xD
is wilander the commentator who doesnt sound english?
***** yup...and he's quite brilliant at analysis.
+sharpasaneraser he's really not...
Dylan Jones "brilliant" might be hyperbole but Wilnader does provide trenchant tennis analysis...at least when I've watched.
good match, fed tired him out in the end
Andreev is a very smart tactical player, for Roger it was a problem to overcome him in the match. Style of play did not quite fit
@gargarensi Then in typical Russian form, he caved in. I know Roger picked his game up a notch or two, but Andreev just vanished. A combination of both.
if only andreev actually played like this...
lol is that what you were trying to say ?
he took 2 at the US, not to mention he's better at the net and not half as strong physically
Run boy😂
Ok its over Buttercup
2:15 Andreev fh
Fed looked flat here, no pop on the ball
"That's an impossible shot!"
I mean, he just did it.
@gargarensi Lol Andreev plays nothing like Nadal.
Really ???
この時のフェデラー全然ライジング打たんな……( ﾟдﾟ)
なんか相手に合わせてスピン対決してる、まぁ勝ってるんやけど
Ah yes, more from that "weak era".
6:05 6:50 9:22
This video is proof that a right-handed Nadal would also dominate prime Federer. That loopy, high-rate forehand is forged in steel.
federer won this match because he had chances to find his forehand because unlike nadal igor plays righthanded nadal can just spam to feds bachand all day so this video proves the opposite but nice try
Federer played really weak, must have been first round warming up
14:06 - where's mourinho? I didn't see him...
Andreev has serious firepower here..much like Rafa a heavy power spinner..don't see him on the pro tour anymore..
Best return I have ever seen. 02:42
Many have tried, many have failed. Fed always raises his level
Well, he played so poorly in the beginning of the match, it wasn't too hard for him to raise his level.
Andreev's game is def. similar to Nadal's. I guess growing up playing in Spain on the red clay will do that to a player, lol. In all seriousness though, he is definitely an underachiever. I mean, you don't expect for him to beat Federer and Nadal on a regular basis, but he chokes so often against lower ranked players! He often plays three sets in best of three sets and finds ways to choke. It's like he has to win in 2 in order to win, but yet he doesn't get beaten in straights sets either.
@garry1177 Of course not, and it has nothing to do with Federer. All court surfaces have been slowing down. Aussie is especially known for changing the entire makeup to a slower surface altogether (remember green Aussie?).
For some reason Federer's forehand was completely gone in this match, it did not have any power or bite, and his movements were awful. He should have changed his rachet at that time!
@gargarensi Not at all, Andreev is completely different type of player than Nadal. Hes ususally exremely offensive on his forehand, and likes to atack the net after inside-out forehands. Nadal on the other hand usually stays very defensive until he gets a really good opportunity. Apart from both playing heavy topspin theres nothing they share.
@BrainSane237 Not really... although there are some similarities. They don't play like each other at all though they have 2 completely different playing styles.
Post USO 2009 - Wimbledon 2010 = Federer just got lazy and a bit complacent.
Lots of top players have these kind of matches against much lesser ranked players that they really don;t like but generally come through from.
E.g. Nadal vs Muller or Gulbis, Djokovic vs rochus, Murray vs most big hitters :P.
Obvs it can be argued for other players but these come to mind.
Andreev was a player that nobody ever wanted to meet in a tourney. Dangerous player.
So, who's the commentator that sounds like Colin Farrell?
pat cash?
Not sure which one you're referring to, but one of the commentators is Mats Wilander.
Now, Roger's ball is just not fast enough, compared to 2004-2007 just too flexible
I think that Igor Andreev for Roger was uncomfortable opponents in spite of personal meetings,he always gave a dignified soprotivlenie Roger,and lost the fight almost always. Ah and match on The U.S. open 2008 was for Federer large test of. Only Igor could give a fight to Roger then. Forcing then and play 5 sets. But psychologically Andreeva was not enough as I think in that component he was very weak. And so I think it could win in any match from Roger.
if andreev was a lefty, maybe he would have a bit more of an edge..
andreev should won 2 sets---this is called complex of federer
man, that 1st set Andreev impressively bossed Fed around with his forehand
interesting to see Regers style change in the last 9 years even though he has also aged another 8 years, I feel he is stronger, faster and calmer now, his forehand flatter, deeper and harder, the same almost with his slice backhand
That’s nonsense
Did you say faster? What a joke!
thanks for uploading this! love andreev's fh!!....LOVE Fed's everything!! :P
This match is a perfect example of how short tennis players like Andreev, Nishikori, and Schwartzman are at a major disadvantage when playing individuals that are around 6'1-6'4, including Roger. I will admit that shorter players are generally more explosive. However, they must, in comparison to players like Roger:
1. Use more energy to get to every ball, since they have shorter strides, tiring them earlier in points and over the course of the match
2. Use more energy to hit the ball hard, since they have less body weight, also tiring them more
3. Hit far more shots above their strike zone, taking more energy and generally making their shots weaker or spinnier and more attack-able
4. Serve at a lower angle, making it more difficult to hit an ace or have a high serving percentage while still hitting a hard serve
5. Cover more ground with their feet because their reach is not as long
In this match, these ideas were easy to see. In any baseline exchange, to get to a ball on the run, Andreev had to sprint like a mad man and take at least 6 quick steps to cover the baseline before coiling his entire body mass and uncorking with all his energy to hit a ball that was over his head, producing a shot that was angled nicely but short in the court, spinney, and somewhat weak. To respond, Federer could take 3 steps because of longer strides and far longer reach, use just his body weight and not overstrain, and loosely hit the ball with much less effort in his strike zone, blasting a ball down the line for winner in a high percentage manner. It is nearly impossible for someone like Andreev to overcome this consistently enough over a five set match to have any real chance of winning, even though his pound for pound ability in this match seemed to be at Federer's level.
^ lol
yeah bur andreev is equally tall as federer, at 6"1, and heavier at it, nevertheless the point is still valid
after the first set, federer was like"Beast Mode Activated" lol
It depends; remember that Andreev had a set point in the 3rd set (it isn't shown in the video).
Beautiful.
Really ???
why
Australian Open Men's Single's Final 2010 - Federer vs Andreev or
Australian Open Men's Singles Final 2010 - Federer vs Davydenko